Very interesting video. I was under the impression, however, that Jodi and Travis only dated for 5 months and that she didn’t move to Mesa until after Travis broke up with her?
You are correct. She needed to do some more research before posting the video. It's very difficult to produce a psychological analysis of someone whom you've never met, so I was expecting a lot more factual precision to be interested in the analysis...
She got the belt and wooden spoon? That's how I was punished my entire childhood. I never slashed someone's trachea. Ntm I take full responsibility for all my bad decisions.
Great channel, thank-you. Another wonderfully erudite video, my only complaint is that it's not long enough. I would love to see you make a far more comprehensive exposition of the Arias or Derrel Brooks case. I'm particularly interested in your assessment of Jodi's behaviour on the stand and her announcing at her sentencing hearing that "she could remember sticking the knife in his throat and he was still conscious." I'm sure you'll agree a remarkable statement to make just prior to sentencing. Designed to cause maximum pain to Alexander's family. Thank-you.
Thank you, that gives me a little scope to perhaps write a part 2. I'm very mindful that in today's society we have evolved a veracious appetite for content and even a 20 to 30 minute video is a big 'time investment' for people.
@@CrimePsych I take your point, but 'sometimes quantity has a quality of its own.' Lenin, lol. (Sorry couldn't resist.) If we put aside Jodi's litany of lies, ("I couldn't keep my lies straight"), how's does one account for her smug, arrogance on the stand. It's a truism that for a defendent taking the stand being likeable is of cardinal importance. So why do you think that she apparently went out of her way to be so obnoxious? Thank-you again for your wonderful videos.
Great question. The short answer is that it's likely to be a learned behaviour. Obviously there’s no way for me to know about any conditions she has or why she does or says certain things - it’s a best guess. She is calm, seemingly innocent and confident that she will be believed if she presents in a certain way. Firstly, if she has no psychological conditions, she will have learned that she can get away with things. A young, white, attractive (I know, subjective) lady is likely to be believed. She will have perfected this over many occasions in her life. I’m not proud to say I have probably done it myself, although not under such high stake conditions and not over anything serious. For example, my boss may ask me why I’m late and I confidently tell them a lie about the awful morning I had where I missed my train, spilled my coffee, got on the wrong bus and so on. I mentioned a couple of conditions that matches her behaviour. One was borderline personality disorder, the other was narcissism. Both of these require an ability to mask true feelings or intent. Masking effectively takes a lot of practice. Both of these are also on a continuum, and many people can show elements of these conditions in normal everyday behaviour without it being obvious enough to diagnose. So, if we take the perspective that she is has narcissistic traits, she is likely to be self-centred, arrogant, lack consideration for other people, and have an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe them as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding. Those with narcissistic traits believe they are better than everyone else and have special qualities, but they still come across as magnetic and charming. Narcissists are accomplished liars. If we take the perspective that she is has BPD, she will have an inherent knowledge that she is somehow different from most people. Those with BPD may have an intense fear of abandonment or instability and may have difficulty tolerating being alone. We all want to fit in and be liked and so we present ourselves in a way we think others will like. We hide any vulnerabilities or weaknesses, and for those with BPD there’s a lot more insecurities to hide. This means they can unintentionally become accomplished liars.
@@CrimePsychI know this is an older comment but I was impressed by your reply! Let me 2nd the OP’s opinion, long vids are GREAT. At least to a large portion of the true crime community. Also forensic psych & behavior analysis are a huge hit in these crowds. Just food for thought. ❤ Also as an aside, I work in psych, most of my career has been “intense behavioral psych rehab.” Lots of personality disorders & trauma related disorders. Mainly long-term inpatient transition to community. BPD is fascinating to me, as well as heartbreaking. They really go through the wringer. All of basic humanity’s top fears (abandonment, feeling empty, etc) magnified in 1 person. Those I’ve worked with who haven’t yet learned to manage it present as highly manipulative, VERY challenging to work with. But I do know a few who’ve been very successful. Interestingly, whether managing it or not, both groups have honed their people skills to an amazing degree (active listening, mirroring, building rapport, etc). Makes sense given the fears of abandonment. Those who are still struggling usually can’t hold those skills for very long, or even use them often. But it’s always impressive to see. (Sometimes scary to see, thus the stigma).
The thing is that Travis doesn’t sound like a nice person - he had a Madonna / whore complex. This does not mean that he deserved to be murdered - of course not. Jodi Arias is a narc / sociopath but I don’t think he was a wonderful person by any stretch.
A person who forces another to be the same religion as them isn't nice at all in my opinion. He was certainly taking his frustration out on her and giving off mixed signals. But as you said, he didn't deserve to die.
He was very conflicted by his religion's taboo against fornication outside of marriage and his inability to control his lust. Their relationship was highly sexual and his inability to refrain from sex with her resulted in an anger at her for using sex to keep him ensnared. He called her s*ut and *hor* because of her continued use of seduction against him. She deserved it no doubt.
I don’t believe she was borderline that was an assessment made during trial and those kinds of assessments can’t be trusted GM for obvious reasons. Also borderline, or people diagnosed with BPD rarely commit murder and certainly not of the kind she did. I’d rethink her diagnosis.
He didn't know that she had a personality disorder, as is normal. Most people don't really know what cluster b personalities are. Or how potentially abusive and dangerous they can be, if put in the wrong circumstances which happen to trigger it. He confronted her I'm sure, and was angry, but my guess is that his anger was justified. Although a lot of people are naive to what these disorders can be like when untreated, and therefore they assume that she was just some poor girl who got used. But it was way beyond that. Also BPD is way, way different from bi polar disorder. I don't think she was manic. I think she was borderline.
@Joe I have had a member of my family murdered and I hate the way surnames are used for the deceased person. By all means, call the murderers by their surname but the victims deserve more respect and not to be referred to as if they're on the same level as the scum that killed them. So to me it's not trivial!
@Crime Psych I have personal reasons, see above comment. I really enjoy your work and the way you present it, it's just the surname thing. Thank you for not taking it personally.
I dont agree with you,she is doing a great video. It's good when a people who gives information to repeating and it's not to mutch. I figure your social behaviour needs work,becuse if you don't like things you can tell that person what you think in a more kind way. I get very angry when people like you dont think or not care who you act. .. 😢
Thank you so much for the video! Your commentary about Jodi Arias's psychological state and the subsequent escalation was really insightful.
You are welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for taking the time to comment, it helps to increase the channel's visibility. x
I liked your video, very impartial.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Very interesting video.
I was under the impression, however, that Jodi and Travis only dated for 5 months and that she didn’t move to Mesa until after Travis broke up with her?
I'd have to go back and check that one. I normally include all the references I use, just in case you want to follow up and read more.
She moved to Mesa after they broke up yes
You are correct. She needed to do some more research before posting the video. It's very difficult to produce a psychological analysis of someone whom you've never met, so I was expecting a lot more factual precision to be interested in the analysis...
She got the belt and wooden spoon? That's how I was punished my entire childhood. I never slashed someone's trachea. Ntm I take full responsibility for all my bad decisions.
Same here ✌️ .. She's Flat EVIL
Thank you.
You are welcome. And thanks for taking the time to comment, it helps increase the channel's visibility x
You should do one for Taylor Schabusiness.
Great channel, thank-you. Another wonderfully erudite video, my only complaint is that it's not long enough. I would love to see you make a far more comprehensive exposition of the Arias or Derrel Brooks case. I'm particularly interested in your assessment of Jodi's behaviour on the stand and her announcing at her sentencing hearing that "she could remember sticking the knife in his throat and he was still conscious." I'm sure you'll agree a remarkable statement to make just prior to sentencing. Designed to cause maximum pain to Alexander's family. Thank-you.
Thank you, that gives me a little scope to perhaps write a part 2. I'm very mindful that in today's society we have evolved a veracious appetite for content and even a 20 to 30 minute video is a big 'time investment' for people.
@@CrimePsych I take your point, but 'sometimes quantity has a quality of its own.' Lenin, lol. (Sorry couldn't resist.) If we put aside Jodi's litany of lies, ("I couldn't keep my lies straight"), how's does one account for her smug, arrogance on the stand. It's a truism that for a defendent taking the stand being likeable is of cardinal importance. So why do you think that she apparently went out of her way to be so obnoxious? Thank-you again for your wonderful videos.
Great question. The short answer is that it's likely to be a learned behaviour. Obviously there’s no way for me to know about any conditions she has or why she does or says certain things - it’s a best guess. She is calm, seemingly innocent and confident that she will be believed if she presents in a certain way.
Firstly, if she has no psychological conditions, she will have learned that she can get away with things. A young, white, attractive (I know, subjective) lady is likely to be believed. She will have perfected this over many occasions in her life. I’m not proud to say I have probably done it myself, although not under such high stake conditions and not over anything serious. For example, my boss may ask me why I’m late and I confidently tell them a lie about the awful morning I had where I missed my train, spilled my coffee, got on the wrong bus and so on.
I mentioned a couple of conditions that matches her behaviour. One was borderline personality disorder, the other was narcissism. Both of these require an ability to mask true feelings or intent. Masking effectively takes a lot of practice. Both of these are also on a continuum, and many people can show elements of these conditions in normal everyday behaviour without it being obvious enough to diagnose.
So, if we take the perspective that she is has narcissistic traits, she is likely to be self-centred, arrogant, lack consideration for other people, and have an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe them as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding. Those with narcissistic traits believe they are better than everyone else and have special qualities, but they still come across as magnetic and charming. Narcissists are accomplished liars.
If we take the perspective that she is has BPD, she will have an inherent knowledge that she is somehow different from most people. Those with BPD may have an intense fear of abandonment or instability and may have difficulty tolerating being alone. We all want to fit in and be liked and so we present ourselves in a way we think others will like. We hide any vulnerabilities or weaknesses, and for those with BPD there’s a lot more insecurities to hide. This means they can unintentionally become accomplished liars.
@@CrimePsychI know this is an older comment but I was impressed by your reply! Let me 2nd the OP’s opinion, long vids are GREAT. At least to a large portion of the true crime community. Also forensic psych & behavior analysis are a huge hit in these crowds. Just food for thought. ❤
Also as an aside, I work in psych, most of my career has been “intense behavioral psych rehab.” Lots of personality disorders & trauma related disorders. Mainly long-term inpatient transition to community. BPD is fascinating to me, as well as heartbreaking. They really go through the wringer. All of basic humanity’s top fears (abandonment, feeling empty, etc) magnified in 1 person. Those I’ve worked with who haven’t yet learned to manage it present as highly manipulative, VERY challenging to work with. But I do know a few who’ve been very successful. Interestingly, whether managing it or not, both groups have honed their people skills to an amazing degree (active listening, mirroring, building rapport, etc). Makes sense given the fears of abandonment. Those who are still struggling usually can’t hold those skills for very long, or even use them often. But it’s always impressive to see. (Sometimes scary to see, thus the stigma).
She black mail him
The thing is that Travis doesn’t sound like a nice person - he had a Madonna / whore complex. This does not mean that he deserved to be murdered - of course not. Jodi Arias is a narc / sociopath but I don’t think he was a wonderful person by any stretch.
A person who forces another to be the same religion as them isn't nice at all in my opinion. He was certainly taking his frustration out on her and giving off mixed signals. But as you said, he didn't deserve to die.
He was very conflicted by his religion's taboo against fornication outside of marriage and his inability to control his lust. Their relationship was highly sexual and his inability to refrain from sex with her resulted in an anger at her for using sex to keep him ensnared. He called her s*ut and *hor* because of her continued use of seduction against him. She deserved it no doubt.
Plus, Travis WAS a nice person. He was a GOOD person. He was naive and controlled by his lust.
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I don’t believe she was borderline that was an assessment made during trial and those kinds of assessments can’t be trusted GM for obvious reasons. Also borderline, or people diagnosed with BPD rarely commit murder and certainly not of the kind she did. I’d rethink her diagnosis.
He didn't know that she had a personality disorder, as is normal. Most people don't really know what cluster b personalities are. Or how potentially abusive and dangerous they can be, if put in the wrong circumstances which happen to trigger it. He confronted her I'm sure, and was angry, but my guess is that his anger was justified. Although a lot of people are naive to what these disorders can be like when untreated, and therefore they assume that she was just some poor girl who got used. But it was way beyond that. Also BPD is way, way different from bi polar disorder. I don't think she was manic. I think she was borderline.
Your channel is brilliant but I really dislike the way you refer to victims by their surname.
I wasnt keeping a tally but she said "Travis Alexander, Travis, Alexander, Jodi, Jodi Arias and Arias" almost equally. Kind of a trivial gripe.
I'm sorry, I honestly mean no disrespect. I'll be more mindful in the future.
@Joe I have had a member of my family murdered and I hate the way surnames are used for the deceased person. By all means, call the murderers by their surname but the victims deserve more respect and not to be referred to as if they're on the same level as the scum that killed them. So to me it's not trivial!
@Crime Psych I have personal reasons, see above comment. I really enjoy your work and the way you present it, it's just the surname thing. Thank you for not taking it personally.
I'm sorry and understand why you brought it up and appreciate it. As I said, I will be more mindful in future.
What a terrible job youve done telling this story. Timeline circling around several times, repeating yourself.
I dont agree with you,she is doing a great video. It's good when a people who gives information to repeating and it's not to mutch. I figure your social behaviour needs work,becuse if you don't like things you can tell that person what you think in a more kind way. I get very angry when people like you dont think or not care who you act. .. 😢