Code Talker - The Threat Posed By Englishization

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  • @GCNavigator
    @GCNavigator  8 років тому +77

    Linguistic Inversion Hypothesis:
    A typical L1 high-school graduate possesses about 12,000 words in their functional vocabulary and a typical college graduate possesses about 25,000 words in their functional vocabulary. A highly well-read person may know as many as 75,000 words. Over the past 50 years, television and public education systems in all major countries have systematically reduced the need for a large vocabulary. People today are learning fewer vocabulary words than their grandparents knew. The Sapir-Whorf Linguistic Determinism Hypothesis posits that humans can process conscious thought using only words and symbols they know. If true, then over the past 50 years the ability of the earth's population to think has been been gradually reduced. Apart from conscious thought (the voice in one's head), people experience feelings, physical senses, and unspoken intuition. The Cihi Linguistic Inversion Hypothesis suggests that reduction in functional vocabulary will inversely correlate to increased intuition and five-sense animal reactions. The Inversion Hypothesis suggests that human minds and bodies will not become easier to control and dominate but rather more difficult to control and dominate due to heightened intuition and physical senses.

    • @abdalaez
      @abdalaez 5 років тому +3

      Sorry to say it like this but,
      WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?! This is mind-blowing!

    • @Foxtrop13
      @Foxtrop13 4 роки тому

      flabbergasted

    • @salahad-din9168
      @salahad-din9168 3 роки тому

      Here's hoping

    • @gasury8927
      @gasury8927 3 роки тому

      then latin theory comes and we are all speechless for a decade :D

    • @Tom3744
      @Tom3744 2 роки тому

      Adding on, The U.S. department of Education in 2020 has reported that 54% of people from age 16-74 cannot read beyond a 6th grade level.

  • @GCNavigator
    @GCNavigator  3 роки тому +7

    The comments and discussions related to this video are my favorites among all of my videos.

  • @madelinewoof7544
    @madelinewoof7544 9 років тому +33

    This is nearly as amazing as the collapse of reality at the end of MGS2.

  • @ZaLewdWarudo
    @ZaLewdWarudo 8 років тому +6

    I'm gald to hear you enjoyed these tapes also, I spent hours listening to them all after having collected every single one.

  • @morganraine9208
    @morganraine9208 9 років тому +19

    This is reminiscent of Benjamin Lee Whorf's hypothesis, referred to as "linguistic determinism." At it's essence, it is simply "language determines the way we think."

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +11

      +Cesar Weizegger Excellent reference, thank you! I had to look it all up again to check, correct, and confirm my memory. It seems that linguistic determinism holds within its scope a derived notion known as linguistic relativity. Apparently Benjamin Lee Whorf never actually published a hypothesis regarding his ideas on linguistic relativity. It has been suggested that a contemporary of Whorf named Harry Hoijer elevated the ideas of Edward Sapir and Whorf into a hypothesis simply by coining the phrase, "Sapir-Whorf hypothesis." The phrase sorta stuck despite the fact that Sapir had never co-authored any publications with Whorf, and neither man had ever described their respective ideas as hypothesis. The distinction between linguistic determinism and linguistic relativity, it seems, is an allowance for adaptation and change. Linguistic relativity allows for adaptation and change, e.g. through the use of new foreign words which could allow new ways of thinking, whereas linguistic determinism, as originally described by Ludwig Wittgenstein, limits man's capacity for thought to only those ideas that can exist within the lexical and syntactic limitations of the thinker's mother culture. I'll need to be ready with this knowledge for the conference. There's always a smarty out there waiting to pounce! :-) Thanks again!

    • @adamisfruit9517
      @adamisfruit9517 9 років тому +3

      +GCNavigator wow, this is an interesting and new concept to me. When listening to the video and reading you're comment I felt as though what was aid made sense to me, though I had never consciously thought about it before. I must say, I'm glad that I heard about your channel through Super Best Friends Play and quickly subscribed.

    • @Maneru5978
      @Maneru5978 3 роки тому

      And this is why I study a number of Discourse Analysis approaches

  • @SJIOFH
    @SJIOFH 9 років тому +11

    I hope that whatever Kojima ends up doing next he's allowed as much creative freedom as he so obviously needs.

    • @cd7up
      @cd7up 4 роки тому +3

      So it was

  • @seanwilson4355
    @seanwilson4355 8 років тому +3

    Thank you for making my childhood awsome! If you responded to this I think I would die.

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  8 років тому +19

      Thank you, Sean! Don't die.

  • @darkdoescosplays
    @darkdoescosplays 7 років тому +6

    I'm shocked I missed this on my (clearly not thorough ernough!) thorough playthrough of this game. It ties so neatly with the concepts of MGS2; how would we know how many genes there really are? Or letters of the alphabet? You can subtley influence the positives/negatives of a word by stereotyping the culture. Indeed, the whole structure of English today can be traced back to the Normans... First as an attempt to standardise the multitude of dialects across England, and gradually more associated as an administrative language (like Latin was before)... Implying order as opposed to being uncivilised. Ironic when you consider Ocelot's dislike of the French "Palace talk"... French versions of words became the more positive aspects of the concept, even when the original roots of both words might date back to Norse (also the reason we have so many different words describing the same concept). This kind of concept continued with BBC promoting received prononciation for years... Even if the main reason of any of these wasn't the intention of controlling the people, indirectly it reinforced what "normal" should sound like, compared to "common" or "rough". Everything about a language reinforces the culture of said language, and equally changes the perception of the speaker... I remember a documentary about an African language that easily differentiates between different shades of blue... Which westerners couldn't tell the difference between. Again, not because of deliberate intentions of colour suppression... More that, in day to day life of a less urban and more natural setting, being able to identify different shades of blue has a greater significance. A similar test was done with two colours easy for one of us to tell the difference between, and they were stumped. Because they don't have the words, and they have no need, to tell the difference (if I find the documentary I'll post it here). Then I have a therapist friend who knew a person who was identified as dyslexic in English, yet learnt German and ended up being able to speak far better German than English. Anyway, I got carried away. It's all fascinating stuff.

  • @TheCulab
    @TheCulab 9 років тому +8

    Just heard you in Forgotten Memories. You and David still got it!

  • @EldritchDragoon
    @EldritchDragoon 9 років тому +6

    Thanks Metal Gear Solid 5. The more you know.

  • @BarrickMacready
    @BarrickMacready 3 роки тому +3

    Hideo Kojima quietly dropping knowledge designed as a "Video game" thank you for this sound bite, I unfortunately have been unable to experience the game.

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  3 роки тому +3

      It is a mind blower and, sadly, I see that it is happening on this plantation we were born into. However, Linguistic Relativity and Linguistic Determinism; Whorf and Sapir's research, fail to identify an interesting balancing aspect. Perhaps an unintended consequence of dumbing down the herd? While it is true that a human brain can consciously think only with the words it possesses; feelings and intuitions do not require words - they just happen. Therefore, as the GHQ restricts human lexis and comprehension ability through simplified TV and social media content, humans will at the same time grow more animal-like in their ability to intuit what is happening and, frankly, they will become more dangerous to the plantation owners.

    • @BarrickMacready
      @BarrickMacready 3 роки тому

      @@GCNavigator Thank you for your response, it was a welcomed suprise to say the least. Humanity is beginning to wake up out of our forced coma and I do believe we are reaching a tipping point of our collective consciousness by remembering how to listen to our intuitions. We need more outspokenly intellectual people to say what is that we all are thinking, such as yourself.
      Also the term 'Plantation' is very fitting for our situation, but I'm not certain if my generation (millennials) will grasp what you are trying to convey, hopefully they will start listening and using their critical thinking skills rather than react with emotions as so many do.

  • @Caius227
    @Caius227 9 років тому +3

    We want more videos

  • @sephrah
    @sephrah 4 роки тому

    I really don't like how unsettled this makes me but I thank you for putting this up Mr GC

  • @ChristopherSummer89
    @ChristopherSummer89 9 років тому +5

    I love the Use of very "whorfian" linguistic Concepts in this Game, and I love the Fact that you, Mr. Cihi, have a good Understanding of the Matter as well! But I personally belong to the Croud that thinks that while Words, their lexical Form, may impact our Thought of the Word, the human Mind is not necessarily bound and limited to our Words. The Limits of my Language are not the Limits of my World, as long as I have the Fantasy to invent Stuff which is not actually of this World, and as long as I would have to describe such a Thing with a new Name, a new Word. Also, we can think of Concepts by imagining an Image, a Picture, or we can imagine Sounds which are no Words, we can think of and try to re-feel a particular Emotion. (That was quite an ad hoc Example: "re-feel" something -- if there is a Word for it, it may have slipped my Mind, but such a Language Barrier won't stop me from conceptualizing a certain Action possibly outside of the Lexicon.)
    Language is merely a System of Metaphors we as human Communities agree to convey a particular Concept of how we see the World (which is not to say the Concept necessarily was in our Minds only), but "Metaphor" is the Key Word, because as soon as we would for Example speak of the "Root of the Mountain" (or in German we say "Foot of the Mountain"), we already show our Capability to pronounce a recognized Concept for which we do not bother to establish its very own Word, but still we are capable of recognizing that Concept. Also, having one specific Word/Lexeme does not mean the Mind is limited to a single semantic Possibility, like "Love", "God", or even "Science" (as different People differ in what they accept as scientific).
    (And speaking of "scientific": Sorry, I am really bad at making my Thoughts sound very scientific either -- I can hardly grasp how I managed to get my Bachelor Degree in Linguistics this Year.^^)
    I really love and appreciate that this Game is dealing with linguistic Topics, because you really don't see that very often among Videogames, but I do think the strong "whorfian" Perspective, neglects the Possibilities of the human Mind. Still, thanks for sharing this Excerpt from MGSV. :)

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +4

      +Ká'a Marte This was a very nice and detailed analysis. Thank you.

  • @lindosss
    @lindosss 9 років тому +7

    1984 real.

  • @nachoelmir98
    @nachoelmir98 9 років тому +2

    Now I feel bad for passing the CAE exam of Cambridge, being an Argentinian myself.

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +11

      +Nacho Romero Not at all. English is very useful. But please always remember the rich meanings of your native Spanish vocabulary.

  • @samc.1080
    @samc.1080 3 роки тому +1

    English was never my first language. When both my parents were in the military. My guardian made me only speak English. I can't even remember my native language.

  • @simpletiger4942
    @simpletiger4942 8 років тому +1

    Hey Guy it's been a year since you made a video.Are you planning on making any this year or next year? No rush of course.

  • @Runie549
    @Runie549 8 років тому +5

    I wonder if perhaps there isn't also a bit of a take that here against the Englishization of the video game industry. Back when the original Metal Gear Solid came out, Japan utterly dominated the market, whereas nowadays it's all western AAA games.

  • @lolocoaster1
    @lolocoaster1 9 років тому +3

    Guy, check out some MGS2 analysis videos. It has a lot of the same themes and messages as this one. I think you'd enjoy it.

  • @erwin21381
    @erwin21381 9 років тому +1

    What a fascinating plan.

  • @SomeSunshineOutside
    @SomeSunshineOutside 9 років тому +3

    i don't see how human cognition will be susceptible to manipulation if we all speak the same language. and if at some point everyone speaks english, it's a terribly long stretch from that to having people neglect their mother tongue. i think it's fair to assume that individualism and nationalism and all that will always be prevalent and prevent anglicisation/englishization.
    but yeah loss in translation will always be tragic.

    • @BobExcalibur
      @BobExcalibur 9 років тому +2

      +SomeSunshineOutside The smallest ethnic groups, with the least economic, military and cultural sway behind them, have the weakest defences against Anglicization. Their "individualism and nationalism" cannot protect them from the onslaught of history. The Bedouin are an example worth investigating, with dialects they have long preserve such as Banu Hilal vanishing along with ancient traditions.

    • @Fyrsiel
      @Fyrsiel 9 років тому

      +SomeSunshineOutside When there's an aggressive override of a nation's culture and language, a lot can be lost and a whole nation can be "converted" to the aggressor's beliefs. Of course, the example that comes to mind are the Native American nations that were forced to convert to Christianity and to give up many aspects of their culture (traditions, even manner of dress), and many Native American languages have been lost. There's some thought that when an individual speaks in a different language, their thought process differs. So there could be some manner of cognitive manipulation; however, I think it'd be very slight. More would have to be done rather than just overwriting a person's language. Their entire cultural perspective would also have to be changed, and erasing a language isn't quite going to be enough on its own to do that.

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +4

      To be fair, English is a flexible language that regularly adds and incorporates many new foreign language words and their conceptual meanings. Therefore, to a certain extent, this cutscene exaggerates the potential threat.

    • @madelinewoof7544
      @madelinewoof7544 9 років тому +6

      +SomeSunshineOutside Being french and having grown during an era where technology and culture developed and spread at an extremely fast rate with the internet, I can attest at how much our language and culture have been heavily influenced by the english language and american culture, more and more common english words, terms, slangs and concept have been incorporated in french, and are now used frequently by people on diverse media or on the streets.
      French as always been a pain in the ass language to learn but it's also very rich because it's primarily a literary language, we have a shit ton of very diverse and precise words, not just synonyms, that symbolizes and conveys certain ideas or feelings in a very specific way, a lot of those words also happen to be kind of "obscure", in the sens that they're rarely used, barely showing up in certain books. The point is that everyday, words are being forgotten, replaced, or deleted, because they're not used anymore, and having english words, thus, concepts, being incorporated as part of our native language, furthers and worsen the situation, a whole idea, a meaning, is being replaced by another, foreign one and becomes part of it's culture, losing it's identity in the end.
      For exemple, it can also be applied to japanese as well. When you hear or see certain words such as otaku, tsundere, or some other, random words that has been marginalised into your own language, you think of a foreign concept instead of an equivalent in your own language which meaning isn't quite the same.
      It's hard to re-interpret that in english since it's so proheminent but I hope this whole text was clear to you and not just a clusterfuck of nonsense.

    • @Cheletiba
      @Cheletiba 9 років тому +4

      +GCNavigator
      In other words, English is the language that drags other languages into dark alleys, beats the crap out of them, and steals the choice words from their wallets as they bleed out on the pavement.

  • @basicloner
    @basicloner 9 років тому +2

    did you play this game, Guy! I never new you were much of a gamer !

    • @LieseFury
      @LieseFury 9 років тому

      More surprising when you remember what happened in the Silent Hill HD Collection

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +10

      +basicloner I am not a regular player, however, I'm thinking about buying MGSV.

  • @KROLOLO
    @KROLOLO 9 років тому +2

    Ты знаешь что ли, ооо уважаю братишка!

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  9 років тому +2

      +wyoming289 Мы все просто в путешественники, мой друг.

    • @KROLOLO
      @KROLOLO 9 років тому

      GCNavigator Распространяй искусство по миру!

  • @anvarmora
    @anvarmora 9 років тому +1

    maybe we can't forget our native language if we pronounce the english with our truly accent. (sorry for my bad english)

  • @HelmedHorror666
    @HelmedHorror666 9 років тому +3

    This game was amazing, but i wish it stopped at chapter 1
    Everything introduced in chapter 2 didn't go anywhere story wise.
    Also nice, didnt know you played mehtul GEAAAAR

    • @ScaredOfClocks
      @ScaredOfClocks 9 років тому +1

      +Helmed Videos They weren't finished with Chapter 2 when the game finished.
      They were also going to make a chapter 3.
      Could not have happened for a number of reasons. Deadlines, Budget, man power, change of ideas, etcetc...

    • @Morrison64
      @Morrison64 9 років тому

      +Scared OfClocks of it happened cause of konami being konami and we all know how konami operates lately....... sub par standards towards its gaming division.

    • @morganraine9208
      @morganraine9208 9 років тому

      +Morrison64 It's actually how they operated for years. Kojima just got fed up with it, and the new bad PR gave him the chance to leave without looking like he betrayed his fans.

    • @MitchellHammond
      @MitchellHammond 7 років тому

      All of these responses are conjecture.

    • @peppermillers8361
      @peppermillers8361 7 років тому

      But don't forget that sometimes Kojima asks things that are way overpriced.

  • @nawafalrawachy394
    @nawafalrawachy394 8 років тому +1

    Hello there, if this is the real Guy Cihi, I just wanted to say that I am a big fan!.
    Mr.Cihi, would you be interested in taking a character role on a game that I'm currently working on?
    If yes then please reply to this comment and we'll work out the details, much appreciated :).

    • @GCNavigator
      @GCNavigator  8 років тому

      Namo Clan What kind of game? Do you have a GDS?

    • @nawafalrawachy394
      @nawafalrawachy394 8 років тому

      GCNavigator No sir I do not.
      The game is horror/mystery, it is currently being developed by myself only, and has been currently under development for 11 months.
      The game is essentially a small indie project, but I wanted to ask you to play the leading role since you've delivered one of the most critically acclaimed roles in gaming, of course the role of James in SH2.
      thank you for your time. If you are not able to participate I completely understand :).

    • @nawafalrawachy394
      @nawafalrawachy394 8 років тому

      GCNavigator However, if you are still interested, please contact me via my email nawafabbasalrawachy@gmail.com so that we'll be able to speak in private and discuss further details.

    • @nawafalrawachy394
      @nawafalrawachy394 8 років тому

      GCNavigator How may I be able to entice you Mr.Cihi?
      what can I provide to make you accept the role?.
      Without wasting your time I can say the highest thing I can provide is a percentage of the overall revenue.
      The game only has a few lines of dialog; less than one page.
      I'm looking forward to hearing back from you, thanks again.