I still think dean is right in this scene because even though he had a chance at living a normal life, it was forced onto him and he had to do it right after he saw the one person he loved more than anyone else in the world die right in front of him. However, the fact that Bobby and Sam both wanted Dean to have a normal life shows how much better they are than John
Of course he's right. They seriously expected him to get over the fact that his brother was in hell suffering and just go on living a life he never chosen? One doesn't ever get over something like that. Especially not Dean who basically spent his whole life trying to protect said brother, even went to hell for 40y for it.
Dean's wrong. These were likely the best times of his life. He's destined to die on the hunt, no family, no life, no friends. The show ended recently and we've seen "the end", all arguments about that particular fate aside - Dean's been on a suicide run forever. He was always heading headlong into the pit. Always. A desperate attempt to stop him that actually worked? Can't mess with that. Dean's life is important - but Sam holding Lucifer in the pit was the only thing that could've kept Dean happy. Keeping a promise. A principle. Happy's not the right word - free is. Free from himself. Free from the rules he so cherished. Dean's entire life was forced on him, and he took it up willingly - so the only way to get him to actually live it again was to take it away from him. And he got just a tiny bit of living in before hitting the road again. It was only a year or so. Probably the only time he got to develop a soul. Peak into the window of the houses of people he's saved. Sure, they got sucked into the life - but so does everyone. Hunting isn't the inevitable noose everyone hangs themselves with - it's monstrosity. It's everywhere. The show is full of innocent victims. It's not the hunter life they lead that kills them, it's the thousands of roaming lunatics and creatures. Life's a meat grinder. This was a short, desperately short time where Dean was forced to save himself for a while. Just a little while. To let somebody else save him. It didn't last because Dean wouldn't let it last, even if what had happened hadn't happened, Dean would've found a way to mess it up. He let that darkness in a long time ago. Nobody is wrong here, everyone's just trying to live and let live.
@Ashwaraide Doran yeah, he'd be happier with her than he'd be with hunting. Not happier with her while Sam in hell. He was drunk and disturbed all the time with Lisa and couldn't even be happy because Bobby decided to hide things.
I couldn’t of imagined the betrayal Dean must have been feeling. Like yea they didn’t tell him for him but that didn’t help him. He was never gonna be okay. He was never not gonna be paranoid, overprotective, having nightmares and drinking.
It is probably the worst thing Bobby did. Sam didn't have his soul, so he kind of gets a pass for the decision, but Bobby should've known better. If Sam had just been dead it might've been okay, but knowing he was in Hell - that's just cruel
@@toratio8547 yeah and all the guy I’ll he felt for Sam and I’m confused Sam doesn’t have a soul but he still has emotions to a point so I don’t use it as an excuse I’m barely on episode 2 but I know he doesn’t have a soul
@@rociocabrera6600 Sam explains to Dean how he can't "feel" anything and that, up until the point he admits that, he's been faking the emotions to seem normal.
I feel like Sam never understands how much Dean has given and worry's about him Sam: I told you to leave it alone Dean: of course I didn't leave it alone Flash to season 8 when deans mad that Sam didn't look for him. Dean: Good. That's good. I always thought we told each other not to look for each other. But we always ignored that due to our deep unbiding love for each other or something like that. But not this time huh Sammy?
1. sam had no soul 2. bad writing that was one of the worst supernatural moments of all time it literally made no sense because thy have literally shown how much sam cares for dean totally out of character
Nicolle Guimarães To a degree a hunter will always have that burden of knowing what’s truly going on until they can never be fully happy but Bobby probably knew that Dear would somehow work through that pain and find something to fill that void hence the woman and the child
@@mystic1410 well he thought wrong. A woman and a child could fill the void if he thought his brother was dead at least (tho I doubt it in dean's case since Sam is his whole life) but not when he thinks his brother in that hell suffering for eternity. It was definitely the worst year of his life.
@@amberxv4777 in Dean's defense, I agree with you. Sam was a mess for 4 months when Dean was in Hell. The worst part is knowing the loved one is suffering in the afterlife. If Sam hadn't been soulless at the time, he would've remembered how he felt back then and reunited with Dean sooner.
They were happy for Dean getting out, but when Sam left for Stanford, he was a monster, that's fair. Did they really think Dean would be OK with Sam in the cage? Sam tried everything to get Dean out of hell, did they really think Dean was not going to try to free Sam from what was like his Hell but a thousand times worse?
Dean is being too hard on Sam. Dean is basically saying to Sam that the only reason he wanted Lisa and Ben was because Sam wanted him to have a life after him. All dean wanted was Sam with him, alive, safe. He drank himself to sleep, had nightmares a horrible year when he could have tried to move on with his “so call of his life” and their child but no Sam is Dean’s everything and he was mad and sad that Sam had been back for a year and didn’t look for him. The red meat episode in season 13 the girl told dean “ I watch the man I love died there is no normal after that” That quote was said to dean and had them focus on dean’s face because the truth is dean will never be normal after Sam. Even if Sam is the one to died at the end. And dean will have no choice but to let Sam died dean will never be normal again. He will lose his heart, his everything. His Sammy.
Well he did only wanted Lisa and Ben because Sam told him to go to them. So I don't think he was too hard on Sam. On the contrary, Bobby and Sam were too hard on him, letting him believe his brother was dead and in hell for a whole year. I can't imagine anything worse than living while knowing your brother is suffering unimaginable torture. Sam was Soulless and probably didn't care. But Bobby, what was he thinking hiding the truth? This year must have been like hell to Dean.
@@amberxv4777 Sam was souless at that time and how would Bobby know he is souless.In other way,we all want our loved ones to get happier and a normal life even tho hunting had become thier normal life.Sam and bobby weren't wrong or hard on him.
@@nasht7818 you should probably read my comment correctly before replying. I did say Sam was soulless. And Bobby did want the best for Dean, but it was a stupid call. He hid the fact that his brother is alive to get Dean out? Dean was suffering thinking Sam is in hell. Bobby had no right to hide that. No one has the right to hide such info from family members to force them to choose to stay out. Dean should make the choice to go or stay himself after knowing his brother is back
@@amberxv4777 i did read ur cmt. What i said was bobby didnt know sam was soulless.I'm sure he wont let dean lives with lisa if he knew sam is soulless.
And that is why Dean had to die at the end rather than Sam. Sam can move forward. It doesn't mean he loves Dean less, he's just built differently. Dean can't. He never learned how and never wanted too.
I agree with the point of view of bobby and Soulless Sam. He wanted his brother yes, but he got out. Had a family life. For most hunters the only way out is death. Dean earned a shot at least of a normal happy life. They didn't want to screw it up for him
Actually I think Soulless Sam didn't give a damn about Dean having a normal life .. he just wanted to explore and enjoy the freedom .. without having to pretend he has normal emotions all the time . Bobby wanted Dean to have a normal life though .. he could never have guessed Sam might have some ulterior motive / reason to keep Dean away .
If you have watched the flashbacks when Sam's "wall" was breaking you would know that he had done some pretty unthinkable things when he was hunting soulless , alone , before Dean came . He couldn't have done them with Dean there . If he had acted that ruthless in front of Dean he would have deducted there is something wrong with Sam . So instead of keeping the pretence of old Sam all the time he left Dean where he was ..
No, they only made him suffer more. Dean would have never lived happily thinking Sam is still in hell. He sold his damn soul and stayed 40 years in hell to bring him back from the dead. How could he live thinking about him there? No wonder he had nightmares.
@@amberxv4777 Let's be real about this because really your point. Doesn't fucking matter in regards to sam bobby actually ment well. Even if he didn't think it threw all the way. But sam didn't give a fuck about dean having a normal life. He didn't give a fuck about dean to being with he told him straight to his face. He literally let dean get turned into a Vampire. He killed innocent people and almost killed Bobby had dean not shown up in time. Soulless sam was a sociopath had no emotions so by you saying that they made it worse for dean. Doesn't matter atleast not for sam.
@@treysmith2788 yeah so? I didn't even bring Sam up. I know he didn't care and wanted his freedom. I'm talking about Bobby being an idiot who made it worse for Dean.
i agree with dean; sure he had a chance at a peaceful life, but his life WAS his brother. sam knew dean would choose him over anyone & i get thats why he lied, but at the same time he cant be trying to control dean’s life. if hunting with the only family he has left is the life he wants to live, bobby and sam had no right trying to take that away from him.
I get your point, and you have kinda right, but you have to understand that they (at least bobby) wanted the best for dean. Dean lost his father and blamed himself for his death and runs every day the guilt that his father gets tortured in hell because of him. His brother died in front of his eyes. He had 1 year to live and was in this year totally scared and suicidical. He experienced the greatest fear of his life in this 1 year. Then he got ripped apart from a hell hound in a most horrible way and went in hell. He was 40 years in hell. It's longer than his life on earth. He got tortured for 30 years straight, and they did horrible things to him that we can not even imagine. He tortured souls for 10 years, and then he finally got saved from castiel but kept his memories from hell. Without having a real break from all of this, he was forced to work for the Angels and was worried about sam. He tried his very best to save his brother, but he got brutally beaten by him. His brother broke his heart by putting a demon over him. The one who sacrificed his whole childhood and life for his little brother. Then the angels tried to break him to make him say yes to Michael. They almost broke him, and Cas beat the shit out of him. Later, he got brutally beaten by lucifer and lost his brother right in front of his eyes. Since season 2, this man has been depressive and never had a single break. They just (Bobby at least) wanted to give him a break. He endured more than humans could take, and he always kept fighting. They (Bobby at least) loved Dean so much, and they just wanted to give him the life he deserved. Doesn't matter if they have no right to take that away from him. Dean deserves to have a normal life. He himself wants to find an opportunity to quit hunting. The only reason why he would start to hunt again is because he wants to be with his brother. That's why they didn't tell him about sam. Dean did enough and deserves a better ending.
You haven't watched the whole series. in fact, this is not Sam, it is only a body without a soul and without feelings, and the real Sammy is still in the cage, Lucifer tortured him there for 180 years. you are now trying to blame a soulless sociopath, an empty shell
@@BlacKFightZ “wanted the best for Dean”.. so you think Dean thinking his brother is dead and in hell is the ‘best for him’? What kind of stupid logic is that..
@ChickenJoe12 yeah when you know how obsessive he is. He got ripped apart by a hellhound and sent to hell for 40 years for his brother. They wanted for him a normal life. Sam wanted to keep hunting, and when Dean knew that sam is alive, he would start to hunt again. They wanted the best for him because they all know that he cares about sam more than himself
when Dean lies to Sam,he keeps all of it inside himself and handles it all by himself😑 when Sam lies to Dean,he literally turns every creature in existence connected to Dean,into liars,by telling them his secret and forcing them not to tell Dean😂😂😂(both soulless and regular Sam) I really like this fact😂but Bobby was totally wrong in here!well,he learnt that in a hard way in 6x11
why is he wrong, because he wanted the best for him ? Did you forget what happened to dean in season 1-5 ? Did you forget how depressive he was ? He was dead inside. This live broked him. A hell hound ripped off his guts, and he was 40 years in hell. He never had a break, and he needed a break. Bobby gave him the break. I know dean suffered a whole year, but that is normal. Someday, he will get over it and keeps living. He lost his mother and his father and got over it after a long time. Bobby just wanted the best for him because this guy had never had in his life a break. Always watching over sam and lost his childhood, hunting monsters all the time, got tortured in hell, had to work for the Angel's and later he had Lucifer as his enemy and you saying bobby in the wrong, just because he gave him a break and wished for him a normal life.
That "Of course I didn't leave it alone, SUE ME!" Is actually quite funny put it in any other context, but that aside this scene is so sad since Dean isn't exactly one to be able to leave the Hunter life...
When Dean asks Bobby how long and Bobby responds with all year I think back to when Dean sold his soul and Bobby asks how long they gave him and he says 1 year
dean: you knew you knew sam was alive bobby: yeah dean: how long bobby: look "yells at him" dean: HOW LONG bobby: all year dean: you gotta be kidding me bobby: and i'd do it again dean: WHY bobby: because you got out dean you walked away from the life and i was so damn grateful you have no idea dean: do you have any idea what walking away meant for me bobby: yeah a woman and a kid and not getting your guts ripped out at age 30 that's what it meant dean: that woman and that kid i went to them because you asked me to "points to sam" bobby: good dean: good for who i showed up on their doorstep half out of my head with grief god knows why they even let me in i drank too much i had nightmares i looked everywhere i collected hundreds of books trying to find anything to bust you out "he points to sam" sam: you promised you'd leave it alone dean: of course i didn't leave it alone sue me a damn year you couldn't put me out of my misery bobby: look i get it wasn't easy but that's life and it's as close to happiness as i've ever seen a hunter get it ain't like i wanted to lie to you son but you were out dean dean: do i look out to you.
Sorry but this was not ok for Bobby to do. It should have been dean’s choice if he wanted to stay out of hunting. And Bobby HAD to know Dean couldn’t be happy if Sam was dead. Only 4 years earlier he sold his soul to bring Sam back. How’d he know Dean wouldn’t do some suicidal crap like that again.
@@margaretgarside5617 the best choice would have been to be honest with Dean that Sam was back and let Dean make his own, informed choice. He’s an adult, it wasn’t right to hide it and let him think his brother was dead. Bobby knew how much losing Sam destroyed him.
Because Adam's not really their brother, even though he is by blood. Adam said that himself. But that's the whole point of this show, family doesn't begin or end by blood. Jack was much more a Winchester than Adam ever was.
Dean was so ungrateful for what bobby and souless sam did for him, he never appreciated they're efforts to keep him safe so he could finally have some type of normal life which is what he wanted
I mean who are they to judge what his happiness is? It's a choice you make for yourself. Dean living a normal quiet life while he his brother that he went to hell for is stuck and being tortured for eternity by angels? Like hell he would have been happy there. Soulless Sam I understand, but Bobby's decision was just as soulless and stupid af.
Like cas said 'to you want freedom or peace?' Dean would have chosen freedom over peace if it meant being with Sammy. Bobby chose to force peace on Dean even if it meant taking away some of his freedom.
was it Bobby's or Sam's business that what was Dean's happiness?Dean did wanted a normal life but not like this,his imagination of a free normal guy was different as it was shown in later seasons!did Sam or Bobby even asked?Sam was soulless so it doesn't really matter but wouldn't change the fact that he forced his own version of normal life on Dean!and it wasn't Bobby's choice either!considering in E4 of S6 he tells lashes out and says"Crowley has my soul and you don't help me!"Dude!you hided the truth from Dean for a whole year by excusing"you got out!"by knowing that you're soul is not safe!
"Don't touch the decor, assumed it's all loaded"
Gotta love Uncle Bobby!
Dean looked so proud that he showed Sam to Bobby. Thought it was going to be a surprise, sad it didn't go as he planned. Lol
TBH, how often does anything go according to Dean's plans?
I DO love that boy, though.
Soulless Sam is so over this entire conversation! LOL! I love it!
I still think dean is right in this scene because even though he had a chance at living a normal life, it was forced onto him and he had to do it right after he saw the one person he loved more than anyone else in the world die right in front of him. However, the fact that Bobby and Sam both wanted Dean to have a normal life shows how much better they are than John
Of course he's right. They seriously expected him to get over the fact that his brother was in hell suffering and just go on living a life he never chosen? One doesn't ever get over something like that. Especially not Dean who basically spent his whole life trying to protect said brother, even went to hell for 40y for it.
Dean's wrong.
These were likely the best times of his life. He's destined to die on the hunt, no family, no life, no friends. The show ended recently and we've seen "the end", all arguments about that particular fate aside - Dean's been on a suicide run forever.
He was always heading headlong into the pit. Always. A desperate attempt to stop him that actually worked? Can't mess with that. Dean's life is important - but Sam holding Lucifer in the pit was the only thing that could've kept Dean happy. Keeping a promise. A principle. Happy's not the right word - free is. Free from himself. Free from the rules he so cherished.
Dean's entire life was forced on him, and he took it up willingly - so the only way to get him to actually live it again was to take it away from him.
And he got just a tiny bit of living in before hitting the road again. It was only a year or so. Probably the only time he got to develop a soul. Peak into the window of the houses of people he's saved. Sure, they got sucked into the life - but so does everyone.
Hunting isn't the inevitable noose everyone hangs themselves with - it's monstrosity. It's everywhere. The show is full of innocent victims. It's not the hunter life they lead that kills them, it's the thousands of roaming lunatics and creatures. Life's a meat grinder.
This was a short, desperately short time where Dean was forced to save himself for a while. Just a little while. To let somebody else save him. It didn't last because Dean wouldn't let it last, even if what had happened hadn't happened, Dean would've found a way to mess it up. He let that darkness in a long time ago.
Nobody is wrong here, everyone's just trying to live and let live.
@Ashwaraide Doran yeah, he'd be happier with her than he'd be with hunting. Not happier with her while Sam in hell. He was drunk and disturbed all the time with Lisa and couldn't even be happy because Bobby decided to hide things.
a whole clip of dean being triggered
I couldn’t of imagined the betrayal Dean must have been feeling. Like yea they didn’t tell him for him but that didn’t help him. He was never gonna be okay. He was never not gonna be paranoid, overprotective, having nightmares and drinking.
It is probably the worst thing Bobby did. Sam didn't have his soul, so he kind of gets a pass for the decision, but Bobby should've known better. If Sam had just been dead it might've been okay, but knowing he was in Hell - that's just cruel
@@toratio8547 yeah and all the guy I’ll he felt for Sam and I’m confused Sam doesn’t have a soul but he still has emotions to a point so I don’t use it as an excuse I’m barely on episode 2 but I know he doesn’t have a soul
@@rociocabrera6600 No soul basically means no emotions bro
@@rociocabrera6600 Sam explains to Dean how he can't "feel" anything and that, up until the point he admits that, he's been faking the emotions to seem normal.
Deans in dad mode, looking rugged yet respectable with his shirt well-tucked into his Levis.
Bobby was being a good father.
omg his face !! 1:49 soulless sam pretending to care has me ctfu😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😂😂😂
I feel like Sam never understands how much Dean has given and worry's about him
Sam: I told you to leave it alone
Dean: of course I didn't leave it alone
Flash to season 8 when deans mad that Sam didn't look for him.
Dean: Good. That's good. I always thought we told each other not to look for each other. But we always ignored that due to our deep unbiding love for each other or something like that. But not this time huh Sammy?
I’m rewatching but I’ve always felt this way as well 🤷🏻♀️
1. sam had no soul
2. bad writing that was one of the worst supernatural moments of all time it literally made no sense because thy have literally shown how much sam cares for dean totally out of character
@@noahthompson5010 yup
@@God_3712 thanks
I disagree John really did a number on those two at least Sam never try to believe he could get John love by being a solider unlike Dean
Gosh, watching this after 2 years of not really watching the show, it's like a soap opera! The drama, the pouting, the yelling. Oh, the good old days.
I have no idea how Bobby could actually think Dean was happy, that was probably the worse year of his life.
Nicolle Guimarães To a degree a hunter will always have that burden of knowing what’s truly going on until they can never be fully happy but Bobby probably knew that Dear would somehow work through that pain and find something to fill that void hence the woman and the child
@@mystic1410 well he thought wrong. A woman and a child could fill the void if he thought his brother was dead at least (tho I doubt it in dean's case since Sam is his whole life) but not when he thinks his brother in that hell suffering for eternity. It was definitely the worst year of his life.
@@amberxv4777 in Dean's defense, I agree with you. Sam was a mess for 4 months when Dean was in Hell. The worst part is knowing the loved one is suffering in the afterlife. If Sam hadn't been soulless at the time, he would've remembered how he felt back then and reunited with Dean sooner.
Be careful with such statements with dean after 40 years in hell.
Maybe Bobby was the happy one, thinking that Dean was safe.
The BEST Jason Todd....sets the standard.
They were happy for Dean getting out, but when Sam left for Stanford, he was a monster, that's fair. Did they really think Dean would be OK with Sam in the cage? Sam tried everything to get Dean out of hell, did they really think Dean was not going to try to free Sam from what was like his Hell but a thousand times worse?
Dean is being too hard on Sam. Dean is basically saying to Sam that the only reason he wanted Lisa and Ben was because Sam wanted him to have a life after him. All dean wanted was Sam with him, alive, safe. He drank himself to sleep, had nightmares a horrible year when he could have tried to move on with his “so call of his life” and their child but no Sam is Dean’s everything and he was mad and sad that Sam had been back for a year and didn’t look for him.
The red meat episode in season 13 the girl told dean “ I watch the man I love died there is no normal after that”
That quote was said to dean and had them focus on dean’s face because the truth is dean will never be normal after Sam.
Even if Sam is the one to died at the end. And dean will have no choice but to let Sam died dean will never be normal again. He will lose his heart, his everything. His Sammy.
Well he did only wanted Lisa and Ben because Sam told him to go to them. So I don't think he was too hard on Sam. On the contrary, Bobby and Sam were too hard on him, letting him believe his brother was dead and in hell for a whole year. I can't imagine anything worse than living while knowing your brother is suffering unimaginable torture. Sam was Soulless and probably didn't care. But Bobby, what was he thinking hiding the truth? This year must have been like hell to Dean.
@@amberxv4777 Sam was souless at that time and how would Bobby know he is souless.In other way,we all want our loved ones to get happier and a normal life even tho hunting had become thier normal life.Sam and bobby weren't wrong or hard on him.
@@nasht7818 you should probably read my comment correctly before replying. I did say Sam was soulless. And Bobby did want the best for Dean, but it was a stupid call. He hid the fact that his brother is alive to get Dean out? Dean was suffering thinking Sam is in hell. Bobby had no right to hide that. No one has the right to hide such info from family members to force them to choose to stay out. Dean should make the choice to go or stay himself after knowing his brother is back
@@amberxv4777 i did read ur cmt. What i said was bobby didnt know sam was soulless.I'm sure he wont let dean lives with lisa if he knew sam is soulless.
And that is why Dean had to die at the end rather than Sam. Sam can move forward. It doesn't mean he loves Dean less, he's just built differently. Dean can't. He never learned how and never wanted too.
This shows how much bobby loves dean he dosen't want dean in the job every because he the close thing he has to son
I agree with the point of view of bobby and Soulless Sam. He wanted his brother yes, but he got out. Had a family life. For most hunters the only way out is death. Dean earned a shot at least of a normal happy life. They didn't want to screw it up for him
Actually I think Soulless Sam didn't give a damn about Dean having a normal life .. he just wanted to explore and enjoy the freedom .. without having to pretend he has normal emotions all the time . Bobby wanted Dean to have a normal life though .. he could never have guessed Sam might have some ulterior motive / reason to keep Dean away .
If you have watched the flashbacks when Sam's "wall" was breaking you would know that he had done some pretty unthinkable things when he was hunting soulless , alone , before Dean came . He couldn't have done them with Dean there . If he had acted that ruthless in front of Dean he would have deducted there is something wrong with Sam . So instead of keeping the pretence of old Sam all the time he left Dean where he was ..
No, they only made him suffer more. Dean would have never lived happily thinking Sam is still in hell. He sold his damn soul and stayed 40 years in hell to bring him back from the dead. How could he live thinking about him there? No wonder he had nightmares.
@@amberxv4777 Let's be real about this because really your point. Doesn't fucking matter in regards to sam bobby actually ment well. Even if he didn't think it threw all the way. But sam didn't give a fuck about dean having a normal life. He didn't give a fuck about dean to being with he told him straight to his face. He literally let dean get turned into a Vampire. He killed innocent people and almost killed Bobby had dean not shown up in time. Soulless sam was a sociopath had no emotions so by you saying that they made it worse for dean. Doesn't matter atleast not for sam.
@@treysmith2788 yeah so? I didn't even bring Sam up. I know he didn't care and wanted his freedom. I'm talking about Bobby being an idiot who made it worse for Dean.
i agree with dean; sure he had a chance at a peaceful life, but his life WAS his brother. sam knew dean would choose him over anyone & i get thats why he lied, but at the same time he cant be trying to control dean’s life. if hunting with the only family he has left is the life he wants to live, bobby and sam had no right trying to take that away from him.
I get your point, and you have kinda right, but you have to understand that they (at least bobby) wanted the best for dean. Dean lost his father and blamed himself for his death and runs every day the guilt that his father gets tortured in hell because of him. His brother died in front of his eyes. He had 1 year to live and was in this year totally scared and suicidical. He experienced the greatest fear of his life in this 1 year. Then he got ripped apart from a hell hound in a most horrible way and went in hell. He was 40 years in hell. It's longer than his life on earth. He got tortured for 30 years straight, and they did horrible things to him that we can not even imagine. He tortured souls for 10 years, and then he finally got saved from castiel but kept his memories from hell. Without having a real break from all of this, he was forced to work for the Angels and was worried about sam. He tried his very best to save his brother, but he got brutally beaten by him. His brother broke his heart by putting a demon over him. The one who sacrificed his whole childhood and life for his little brother. Then the angels tried to break him to make him say yes to Michael. They almost broke him, and Cas beat the shit out of him. Later, he got brutally beaten by lucifer and lost his brother right in front of his eyes. Since season 2, this man has been depressive and never had a single break. They just (Bobby at least) wanted to give him a break. He endured more than humans could take, and he always kept fighting. They (Bobby at least) loved Dean so much, and they just wanted to give him the life he deserved. Doesn't matter if they have no right to take that away from him. Dean deserves to have a normal life. He himself wants to find an opportunity to quit hunting. The only reason why he would start to hunt again is because he wants to be with his brother. That's why they didn't tell him about sam. Dean did enough and deserves a better ending.
You haven't watched the whole series. in fact, this is not Sam, it is only a body without a soul and without feelings, and the real Sammy is still in the cage, Lucifer tortured him there for 180 years. you are now trying to blame a soulless sociopath, an empty shell
@@BlacKFightZ “wanted the best for Dean”.. so you think Dean thinking his brother is dead and in hell is the ‘best for him’? What kind of stupid logic is that..
@ChickenJoe12 yeah when you know how obsessive he is. He got ripped apart by a hellhound and sent to hell for 40 years for his brother. They wanted for him a normal life. Sam wanted to keep hunting, and when Dean knew that sam is alive, he would start to hunt again. They wanted the best for him because they all know that he cares about sam more than himself
Here after the finale 😭😭😭😭😭😭
when Dean lies to Sam,he keeps all of it inside himself and handles it all by himself😑
when Sam lies to Dean,he literally turns every creature in existence connected to Dean,into liars,by telling them his secret and forcing them not to tell Dean😂😂😂(both soulless and regular Sam)
I really like this fact😂but Bobby was totally wrong in here!well,he learnt that in a hard way in 6x11
why is he wrong, because he wanted the best for him ? Did you forget what happened to dean in season 1-5 ? Did you forget how depressive he was ? He was dead inside. This live broked him. A hell hound ripped off his guts, and he was 40 years in hell. He never had a break, and he needed a break. Bobby gave him the break. I know dean suffered a whole year, but that is normal. Someday, he will get over it and keeps living. He lost his mother and his father and got over it after a long time. Bobby just wanted the best for him because this guy had never had in his life a break. Always watching over sam and lost his childhood, hunting monsters all the time, got tortured in hell, had to work for the Angel's and later he had Lucifer as his enemy and you saying bobby in the wrong, just because he gave him a break and wished for him a normal life.
Of course I didn’t leave it alone sue me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That "Of course I didn't leave it alone, SUE ME!" Is actually quite funny put it in any other context, but that aside this scene is so sad since Dean isn't exactly one to be able to leave the Hunter life...
when I watched this scene. I felt like I hate John again. Bobby is great.
When Dean asks Bobby how long and Bobby responds with all year I think back to when Dean sold his soul and Bobby asks how long they gave him and he says 1 year
dean: you knew you knew sam was alive bobby: yeah dean: how long bobby: look "yells at him" dean: HOW LONG bobby: all year dean: you gotta be kidding me bobby: and i'd do it again dean: WHY bobby: because you got out dean you walked away from the life and i was so damn grateful you have no idea dean: do you have any idea what walking away meant for me bobby: yeah a woman and a kid and not getting your guts ripped out at age 30 that's what it meant dean: that woman and that kid i went to them because you asked me to "points to sam" bobby: good dean: good for who i showed up on their doorstep half out of my head with grief god knows why they even let me in i drank too much i had nightmares i looked everywhere i collected hundreds of books trying to find anything to bust you out "he points to sam" sam: you promised you'd leave it alone dean: of course i didn't leave it alone sue me a damn year you couldn't put me out of my misery bobby: look i get it wasn't easy but that's life and it's as close to happiness as i've ever seen a hunter get it ain't like i wanted to lie to you son but you were out dean dean: do i look out to you.
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Of Course I didn't leave it alone SUE ME
Always hated that bobby died.
Wait one dam minute where Adam John Mary and Henry
Watch the whole series
Sorry but this was not ok for Bobby to do. It should have been dean’s choice if he wanted to stay out of hunting. And Bobby HAD to know Dean couldn’t be happy if Sam was dead. Only 4 years earlier he sold his soul to bring Sam back. How’d he know Dean wouldn’t do some suicidal crap like that again.
In this situation, any choice any one of them made was going to be wrong.
@@margaretgarside5617 the best choice would have been to be honest with Dean that Sam was back and let Dean make his own, informed choice. He’s an adult, it wasn’t right to hide it and let him think his brother was dead. Bobby knew how much losing Sam destroyed him.
Bobby😪😌
Gotta love Bobby
Bobby was in the wrong. He meant well, but he should have known better.
No one mentioned Adam
Because Adam's not really their brother, even though he is by blood. Adam said that himself. But that's the whole point of this show, family doesn't begin or end by blood. Jack was much more a Winchester than Adam ever was.
@@twoshakesofaratsass4748 If Adam had that chance, he'd made an awesome brother.
But dean finally got out got family and job
While his brother was in hell? Yeah, I'm sure every day he lived was torture in this year.
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not Bobby's best decision, that's for sure...
This is what you get when Kripke is not running the show. It makes absolutely no sense and Bobby we knew would never conceal that.
I got out now where am I now.. and what's wrong with Marc and my mommy.
Dean was so ungrateful for what bobby and souless sam did for him, he never appreciated they're efforts to keep him safe so he could finally have some type of normal life which is what he wanted
I mean who are they to judge what his happiness is? It's a choice you make for yourself. Dean living a normal quiet life while he his brother that he went to hell for is stuck and being tortured for eternity by angels? Like hell he would have been happy there. Soulless Sam I understand, but Bobby's decision was just as soulless and stupid af.
Like cas said 'to you want freedom or peace?' Dean would have chosen freedom over peace if it meant being with Sammy. Bobby chose to force peace on Dean even if it meant taking away some of his freedom.
was it Bobby's or Sam's business that what was Dean's happiness?Dean did wanted a normal life but not like this,his imagination of a free normal guy was different as it was shown in later seasons!did Sam or Bobby even asked?Sam was soulless so it doesn't really matter but wouldn't change the fact that he forced his own version of normal life on Dean!and it wasn't Bobby's choice either!considering in E4 of S6 he tells lashes out and says"Crowley has my soul and you don't help me!"Dude!you hided the truth from Dean for a whole year by excusing"you got out!"by knowing that you're soul is not safe!
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@@altinaykor364 some people don't know what best for them and the choice has to be made for them