Excellent review! I appreciate the time you put into testing the Mixon 8 Pro and the time you took with us to break everything down. There are newer, shinier toys that are out now, but though delayed, I think this controller proves Reloop's dedication and abilities to make cutting-edge products (even if it wasn't still cutting-edge when it finally shipped). As an Algoriddim djay Pro AI for Mac primary user, this controller has been my daily driver since June, and I've loved it. I also truly appreciate its build quality, and though it doesn't seem right when compared to two turntables laid out battle-style with a mixer in the middle, I really like the mirrored play/pause, auto loop, pitch faders, etc. I'm not sure how quick Reloop will be to make a new flagship controller, but this one truly gets it done. The only areas I can think to add would be "MKII" type enhancements such as moving platters, album art/track info on the displays, USB-C ports for computers, on-board FX, etc. While this isn't the freshest-looking controller on the market, it's worth it for anyone to look at as it's well-thought out and shows Reloop's attention to detail and sensitivity to DJs' needs. (Keep in mind this was designed prior to Serato STEMs.) Thank you again. This video was well worth the wait!
I totally appreciate this review. I love to hear reviews that provide facts and their opinions based off those facts. Instead of only providing biased opinions. I personally am a user of djay Pro but I love the comparison of functionality for both djay and serato. In addition, it helped me to hear your cons for the product as well. With all that said, you've definitely answered my questions about my main concerns. I saw another comment that I agree with that Reloop makes great products that doesn't get enough recognition. I always say, function over fashion.
I keep coming back to rewatch this video again and again. I'm torn between a Rane 1 and a Reloop Mixon 8. Neither one are my 1st choice but want something that works with DJ Pro and since options are so limited that's where I'm at. They're both about the same price but the quality of the Rane seems to be much better than the Reloop. The Reloop almost looks cheap, sort of plasticky and toy like vs something that looks more professional duty like the Rane. I was trying to wait it out in hopes they released some new supported hardware but I don't know if I can wait any longer and I can't decide which one to get lol
Thanks for the review. This may be a really good option for me. I've been leaning toward the FOUR, due to stems and on-board effects; but this checks most of the boxes for features, but mostly for extra "mappable" buttons. I custom map boards to make my on-set workflow as easy and brainless as possible, and so my next concern was build quality - which you answered. I have no issue with the mirrored format, it's how most of us learned anyway. Super pleased to see that this may be the value buy of the year.
Thanks for the Review 🙏🏾.....I'm a huge fan of Djay AI. I was in a DJ battle, & Serato fan boys started making jokes, but at the end of the night the crowd was telling me, "you buss dey @$$" iPad is the future.
All these years later and It's interesting how Pioneer created the template for large controllers with the DDJ-SX just as Technics created the template for turntables back in the late 70's with the SL-1200MK2. Everything that followed copies those designs. Nothing wrong with that, just interesting that you never know what new thing will become the standard!
If you are going to mention the SX, you have to mention the Vestax VCI-380 as well. That was the first controller to feature the 8 pads per deck layout we see to this day. It's like with a car. The steering wheel and pedals can only go in certain places, or it doesn't make sense.
The Vestax VCI 380 came to market first and was the first controller with 8 pads. The pads were RGB and the platter had adjustable tension and platter lights. But yeah Pioneer put the pads on the bottom.
I'm about to buy this controller> Since few weeks i spending my time to investigate something decent, sturdy without the club layout.... Mirrored layout, i love it! full rack effects :) and huge range of possibilities with Virtualdj :) Thank for you share :)
Good review. I’ve had the mixon 8 since May - DJAY user for 6 years. I don't stream songs much - upload my songs to icloud from a computer, download into files on ipad and just add the folder within DJAY
Excellent review, Terry. I was considering this controller briefly but went for the FLX10. My biggest problem with this unit is: a) I find it’s too fugly (short for ‘visually unappealing’ 😅) b) no coloured info on the jog wheel screens c) no direct (labelled buttons) control over FX on stems? d) no USB-C for laptops Like many on here, I respect Reloop and want to like this. But I just can’t get behind it; it already feels dated. Release a new full featured model, with a nice layout, and proper on board displays (Rane 4 meets FLX10?) and I’m all in.
The biggest, and only problem in my opinion, is that the knobs in the mixer are not lit in any way and if you are working in it is NEARLY impossible to see where the knobs on the eq, gain and filter are at-- i know, I know Chrima Caps will fix that but it was a REAL PAIN until I got around to getting a new set. I really dig this controller otherwise and I love the djay integration!!
Thanks for your great honest review. I bought this couple of months ago. I moved from Traktor as I was fed up of their lack of development. I use the Mixon 8 with a 12.9 iPad Pro on an adjustable stand that I bought. I can get the angle that suits me. Djay pro Ai also has really simple but powerful mapping capabilities. For example I have mapped shift headphone cue on each channel to change from eq mode to stem mode. I’ve mapped effect buttons to be able to scroll effects. When browsing tracks I’ve mapped ability to preview track with fast forward and rewind. In stems pad mode similar to serato I’ve mapped ability to effect stems for example echo out vocal. Another big one was to mep separate stems so on one deck instrumental and other acapella, which is really cool for scratching the acapella ( I just need to learn to scratch). Few other cool addons also. This for me is such a cool controller and working with iPad or phone is just nuts. I love it. Can’t wait though for stems 2.0. Then this will be the one to beat. Peace.
I bought one. It feels great. Works great. And with ver 5 of Djay out, it’s great that there is a dedicated controller of this quality out there. I’m interested in trying out Serato with it too - but I got it for DJay. Thanks for this comprehensive review.
Time is truly of the essence. The window where this unit had some buzz is shut. From the time that they unveiled this unit till now, so much has evolved as far as the competition that it's up against that it's become antiquated before it got out the gate. As far as Stems go, Serato & VDJ have advanced to the point where Neural Mix isn't even in the rear view mirror & they've allowed RB & Engine to catch up. Which is why I find it a bit odd that DJs such as Laidback Luke have adopted it as their go to citing it as the "future" when it isn't even current in the Stems landscape but I digress. The mirrored layout isn't my preferred workflow but isn't a deal breaker either. I got used to it via various Numark controllers circa NS7 II & NV but the majority of folks either love it or hate it which isn't a good look for Reloop.
for progressive house djs the stern method of mixing is not it. the tracks are more produced and nuanced. the bassline evolves and intertwined with the atmospherics as is the vocal. maybe a legit producer will execute stem mixing adequately but most prog djs will sound crap trying to mix and match baselines or put one tracks vocal in another track, ect.
I know I have a sort of niche product with the Roland DJ-505 and I'm not planning on changing it for anything else (especially because I only have it since July 2023), but how does the Reloop Mixon 8 compete against the DJ-505 in terms of the jogwheels and the drumpads ? I'm not talking about the TR-S on top of the DJ-505, that's why it's a niche product (I use it sometimes while mixing, but mostly while producing). I would like to know the difference between the jogwheels and the drumpads/touchpads. Personally I kind of do not like the little screens in the jogwheels.
Roland was ahead of its time with that board. Not sure why they didn’t make a updated one but its still good as long as it has no bugs in 2023. As to answer your question The only main difference besides size no cue points on the platters. But im pretty sure you can scratch on both just the same you just have to look at a cpu with 1. But hold onto that device it has a lot of features that they using now on much more expensive boards. I still use mines and want to change but don’t see anything currently better for me and my needs/requirements.
Great review. I just bought one…coming from the BeatPad 2…but thought about gear up. So I am a Djay Pro/Ipad guy…so this board will probably suite me perfect. A feature that probably does not exist…is to run both USB ports with iPads and make them work together…like having functionality like the play list on one of them and the djay pro app on the other one. :-) Also that the stems seems to move away from streaming media like tidal will make life a bit harder in the future…
Remixing on the fly is a game changer. Think about it. 100 million songs on youtube and artist with the technology to extract the multitrack masters and create new combinations never heard before. Thats what we do.
Hi Mr. Terry big fan, I would like to know do the stem eq work with Serato. I have a rev 7 but Im looking for a four channel Controller that won't brake the bank
Best controller on the market is the Rane Four, especially if you use it with a Pioneer DDJ-SP1. Would be nice to have separate effects for all 4 decks.
So they need an adapter to take it out of the slip and you can put it on an arm. Someone got to make that. Thank you for this video. I'm looking into getting this for some time.
what’s do you mean too hard to get music on ipad? i just use a USBC dongle with power, drive, and controller Audio/MIDI cable. (and i LOVE mirrored layout. hate non-mirrored. one set of the controls are always in the wrong place.)
@@ClevelandTerry I hope you’re right. I had the Mixon 4 and I loved it. With this review and your reply, I’m going to definitely try again. Thank you Mr. Cleveland for always being positive.🤘🏽
Its very nice with nice controls.My only gripe apart from the usual static jogs is the mirrored lay out for the pitch faders.That has never been my optimal choice .I did consider this for a while and it is still a very good controller but maybe not for me
I love the mirror layout, if you’ve tried DJing with another iOS or laptop DJ at the same time using all 4 channels on this 1 controller maybe you’ll like it. Back 2 back will never be the same again it’s awesome
When i bought this controller i encountered 2-3 seconds complete freeze of the board when i switched from usb A to usb B in Serato. I have 2 laptops with 16 GB RAM and 500 GB SSD s and good processors. Although i created a ticket to reloop they didn't manage to replicate the bug so i returned it. 2-3 seconds of complete freeze with silence is not ok. You should test the switch between USB. 😊
Giving up 2 channels for Mics is a no no. That's the reason why i moved away from the Pioneer DDJ-SX's. If you're selling a 4 channel controller, it needs to have it's own Mic section. This controller reminds me too much of the DDJ-SX, and that's over 11 years old.
I get some people do but I never use the mic inputs in my demon Prime 4 I just run them through my mixer. I supposed if anyone made a great mic I out with good preamps and effects I might but too often I’ve had to pull some bass out, add a compressor etc and can’t do that with a controller input.
Great vid. Are you able to adjust the cross fader curve in the Serato mixer section.. The setting is there but I am not able to make any adjustment to it.. Thanks..
“Hi CT, This is RCA Jive. I’m just here to notify you that we will be muting your entire video and taking possession of your youngest child for the 2 second use of our song Can We - SWV.”
I bought one of these and returned it back . everything is so cluster up and small .if feels like a toy .in this modern era they should have done a better job on looks and feel .it doesn't worth the price
Thank you for finally posting this. Reloop makes great products and they don’t get the recognition and respect they deserve here in North America.
Excellent review! I appreciate the time you put into testing the Mixon 8 Pro and the time you took with us to break everything down. There are newer, shinier toys that are out now, but though delayed, I think this controller proves Reloop's dedication and abilities to make cutting-edge products (even if it wasn't still cutting-edge when it finally shipped). As an Algoriddim djay Pro AI for Mac primary user, this controller has been my daily driver since June, and I've loved it. I also truly appreciate its build quality, and though it doesn't seem right when compared to two turntables laid out battle-style with a mixer in the middle, I really like the mirrored play/pause, auto loop, pitch faders, etc. I'm not sure how quick Reloop will be to make a new flagship controller, but this one truly gets it done. The only areas I can think to add would be "MKII" type enhancements such as moving platters, album art/track info on the displays, USB-C ports for computers, on-board FX, etc. While this isn't the freshest-looking controller on the market, it's worth it for anyone to look at as it's well-thought out and shows Reloop's attention to detail and sensitivity to DJs' needs. (Keep in mind this was designed prior to Serato STEMs.) Thank you again. This video was well worth the wait!
I totally appreciate this review. I love to hear reviews that provide facts and their opinions based off those facts. Instead of only providing biased opinions. I personally am a user of djay Pro but I love the comparison of functionality for both djay and serato. In addition, it helped me to hear your cons for the product as well. With all that said, you've definitely answered my questions about my main concerns. I saw another comment that I agree with that Reloop makes great products that doesn't get enough recognition. I always say, function over fashion.
I keep coming back to rewatch this video again and again. I'm torn between a Rane 1 and a Reloop Mixon 8. Neither one are my 1st choice but want something that works with DJ Pro and since options are so limited that's where I'm at. They're both about the same price but the quality of the Rane seems to be much better than the Reloop. The Reloop almost looks cheap, sort of plasticky and toy like vs something that looks more professional duty like the Rane. I was trying to wait it out in hopes they released some new supported hardware but I don't know if I can wait any longer and I can't decide which one to get lol
Thanks for the review. This may be a really good option for me. I've been leaning toward the FOUR, due to stems and on-board effects; but this checks most of the boxes for features, but mostly for extra "mappable" buttons. I custom map boards to make my on-set workflow as easy and brainless as possible, and so my next concern was build quality - which you answered. I have no issue with the mirrored format, it's how most of us learned anyway. Super pleased to see that this may be the value buy of the year.
Get the Rane Four. Trust me.
I was wondering do you think you could map the eq to stems
@@DjUncleRocks.yes for djay as seen in the video. For serato it’s device exclusive. I think it’s only on the ddj-rev5 right now
Thanks for the Review 🙏🏾.....I'm a huge fan of Djay AI. I was in a DJ battle, & Serato fan boys started making jokes, but at the end of the night the crowd was telling me, "you buss dey @$$" iPad is the future.
I don’t have a problem with Djay. It’s a great app, but it needs work.
@@ClevelandTerry What do you think of the recent updates?
All these years later and It's interesting how Pioneer created the template for large controllers with the DDJ-SX just as Technics created the template for turntables back in the late 70's with the SL-1200MK2. Everything that followed copies those designs. Nothing wrong with that, just interesting that you never know what new thing will become the standard!
If you are going to mention the SX, you have to mention the Vestax VCI-380 as well. That was the first controller to feature the 8 pads per deck layout we see to this day. It's like with a car. The steering wheel and pedals can only go in certain places, or it doesn't make sense.
The Vestax VCI 380 came to market first and was the first controller with 8 pads. The pads were RGB and the platter had adjustable tension and platter lights. But yeah Pioneer put the pads on the bottom.
kontrol s8/s5
novation twitch
skipped ahead at first, then skipped back and will enjoy the full package - great style, great way of guiding through the review !
I'm about to buy this controller>
Since few weeks i spending my time to investigate something decent, sturdy without the club layout....
Mirrored layout, i love it! full rack effects :) and huge range of possibilities with Virtualdj :)
Thank for you share :)
Wish Denon DJ would make an MC7000 MK2 with a lot of the great features of this Mixon 8
Thanks Terry! Appreciate the love ❤️. Glad you like it! Nice feedback 🙏
You are very welcome.
Good review. I’ve had the mixon 8 since May - DJAY user for 6 years. I don't stream songs much - upload my songs to icloud from a computer, download into files on ipad and just add the folder within DJAY
Excellent review, Terry. I was considering this controller briefly but went for the FLX10. My biggest problem with this unit is:
a) I find it’s too fugly (short for ‘visually unappealing’ 😅)
b) no coloured info on the jog wheel screens
c) no direct (labelled buttons) control over FX on stems?
d) no USB-C for laptops
Like many on here, I respect Reloop and want to like this. But I just can’t get behind it; it already feels dated.
Release a new full featured model, with a nice layout, and proper on board displays (Rane 4 meets FLX10?) and I’m all in.
The biggest, and only problem in my opinion, is that the knobs in the mixer are not lit in any way and if you are working in it is NEARLY impossible to see where the knobs on the eq, gain and filter are at-- i know, I know Chrima Caps will fix that but it was a REAL PAIN until I got around to getting a new set. I really dig this controller otherwise and I love the djay integration!!
Thanks for your great honest review. I bought this couple of months ago. I moved from Traktor as I was fed up of their lack of development. I use the Mixon 8 with a 12.9 iPad Pro on an adjustable stand that I bought. I can get the angle that suits me.
Djay pro Ai also has really simple but powerful mapping capabilities. For example I have mapped shift headphone cue on each channel to change from eq mode to stem mode. I’ve mapped effect buttons to be able to scroll effects. When browsing tracks I’ve mapped ability to preview track with fast forward and rewind. In stems pad mode similar to serato I’ve mapped ability to effect stems for example echo out vocal. Another big one was to mep separate stems so on one deck instrumental and other acapella, which is really cool for scratching the acapella ( I just need to learn to scratch). Few other cool addons also. This for me is such a cool controller and working with iPad or phone is just nuts. I love it. Can’t wait though for stems 2.0. Then this will be the one to beat. Peace.
Agreed
I bought one. It feels great. Works great. And with ver 5 of Djay out, it’s great that there is a dedicated controller of this quality out there. I’m interested in trying out Serato with it too - but I got it for DJay. Thanks for this comprehensive review.
Great to hear!
Great time to get Mixon 8 with djay pro 5. Awesome combo.
Time is truly of the essence. The window where this unit had some buzz is shut. From the time that they unveiled this unit till now, so much has evolved as far as the competition that it's up against that it's become antiquated before it got out the gate. As far as Stems go, Serato & VDJ have advanced to the point where Neural Mix isn't even in the rear view mirror & they've allowed RB & Engine to catch up. Which is why I find it a bit odd that DJs such as Laidback Luke have adopted it as their go to citing it as the "future" when it isn't even current in the Stems landscape but I digress.
The mirrored layout isn't my preferred workflow but isn't a deal breaker either. I got used to it via various Numark controllers circa NS7 II & NV but the majority of folks either love it or hate it which isn't a good look for Reloop.
for progressive house djs the stern method of mixing is not it. the tracks are more produced and nuanced. the bassline evolves and intertwined with the atmospherics as is the vocal. maybe a legit producer will execute stem mixing adequately but most prog djs will sound crap trying to mix and match baselines or put one tracks vocal in another track, ect.
I still run my SX2 and it still makes me happy.
I know I have a sort of niche product with the Roland DJ-505 and I'm not planning on changing it for anything else (especially because I only have it since July 2023), but how does the Reloop Mixon 8 compete against the DJ-505 in terms of the jogwheels and the drumpads ? I'm not talking about the TR-S on top of the DJ-505, that's why it's a niche product (I use it sometimes while mixing, but mostly while producing). I would like to know the difference between the jogwheels and the drumpads/touchpads.
Personally I kind of do not like the little screens in the jogwheels.
Roland was ahead of its time with that board. Not sure why they didn’t make a updated one but its still good as long as it has no bugs in 2023. As to answer your question The only main difference besides size no cue points on the platters. But im pretty sure you can scratch on both just the same you just have to look at a cpu with 1.
But hold onto that device it has a lot of features that they using now on much more expensive boards.
I still use mines and want to change but don’t see anything currently better for me and my needs/requirements.
Mine isn't going away ever.@@Dj2knitro
@@YouriHL smart man its a great controller. Esp for a mobile dj not much better.
Great review. I just bought one…coming from the BeatPad 2…but thought about gear up. So I am a Djay Pro/Ipad guy…so this board will probably suite me perfect. A feature that probably does not exist…is to run both USB ports with iPads and make them work together…like having functionality like the play list on one of them and the djay pro app on the other one. :-)
Also that the stems seems to move away from streaming media like tidal will make life a bit harder in the future…
Remixing on the fly is a game changer. Think about it. 100 million songs on youtube and artist with the technology to extract the multitrack masters and create new combinations never heard before. Thats what we do.
Hi Mr. Terry big fan, I would like to know do the stem eq work with Serato. I have a rev 7 but Im looking for a four channel Controller that won't brake the bank
Hard to get excited for a product that came out much later than its announcement date. Technology depreciates way too quickly for that kind of delay
Best controller on the market is the Rane Four, especially if you use it with a Pioneer DDJ-SP1. Would be nice to have separate effects for all 4 decks.
I had interest when it was announced then the rane four came out. I think they need a price drop and a reintroduction.
I would like to ask you about the Rane 4 is it any good ? I hear a lot of bad things about it like the jog wheels is no good or about the faders.
@@DjUncleRocks. The rane four is great. I haven't had any jog wheel issues.
BUY IT!
DON'T DELAY
I almost ended up with the RX3, but glad I didn’t go the route
So they need an adapter to take it out of the slip and you can put it on an arm. Someone got to make that.
Thank you for this video. I'm looking into getting this for some time.
The cross fader curve on the front pioneer did that with the first ddj
what’s do you mean too hard to get music on ipad? i just use a USBC dongle with power, drive, and controller Audio/MIDI cable.
(and i LOVE mirrored layout. hate non-mirrored. one set of the controls are always in the wrong place.)
That’s what’s great about DJing. People like what they like. 😀
Hey CT…. I had this unit but I ended up sending it back. The headphone volume was not good at all ….compared to pioneer units.
Hmmm you might have had a defective one because I did not experience that on my unit.
@@ClevelandTerry I hope you’re right. I had the Mixon 4 and I loved it. With this review and your reply, I’m going to definitely try again. Thank you Mr. Cleveland for always being positive.🤘🏽
Its very nice with nice controls.My only gripe apart from the usual static jogs is the mirrored lay out for the pitch faders.That has never been my optimal choice .I did consider this for a while and it is still a very good controller but maybe not for me
I love the mirror layout, if you’ve tried DJing with another iOS or laptop DJ at the same time using all 4 channels on this 1 controller maybe you’ll like it. Back 2 back will never be the same again it’s awesome
Thanks for the awesome review, but mirrored controlls = nogo... would be a nice controller though, but that's just a nogo...
When i bought this controller i encountered 2-3 seconds complete freeze of the board when i switched from usb A to usb B in Serato. I have 2 laptops with 16 GB RAM and 500 GB SSD s and good processors. Although i created a ticket to reloop they didn't manage to replicate the bug so i returned it. 2-3 seconds of complete freeze with silence is not ok. You should test the switch between USB. 😊
To me the paddles and volume fader knobs are too close I kept hitting the volume fader thinking I'm hitting the fx paddle that's my only hang up
Giving up 2 channels for Mics is a no no. That's the reason why i moved away from the Pioneer DDJ-SX's. If you're selling a 4 channel controller, it needs to have it's own Mic section. This controller reminds me too much of the DDJ-SX, and that's over 11 years old.
I get some people do but I never use the mic inputs in my demon Prime 4 I just run them through my mixer. I supposed if anyone made a great mic I out with good preamps and effects I might but too often I’ve had to pull some bass out, add a compressor etc and can’t do that with a controller input.
Even on pioneer controllers had similar problems for efxs
you needed to make two videos. This one only shows the IOS, but both Serato and VDJ have day-light and night-time modes...so it's a none issue.
That has nothing to do with the issue.
If they made those platters motorized omg...omg it will slaughter all boards
Great vid. Are you able to adjust the cross fader curve in the Serato mixer section.. The setting is there but I am not able to make any adjustment to it.. Thanks..
Great review, great controller, but Reloop took too long to release this controller.
Rane 4 kind of took over now
“Hi CT,
This is RCA Jive. I’m just here to notify you that we will be muting your entire video and taking possession of your youngest child for the 2 second use of our song Can We - SWV.”
I can understand the taking of the youngest child but muting the entire video is taking it a bit far 🤣
Lol
I bought one of these and returned it back . everything is so cluster up and small .if feels like a toy .in this modern era they should have done a better job on looks and feel .it doesn't worth the price
Reminds me of ddj-sx mixed with ddj-800 😅
Its the time delivery Mixon its out weighed by the technology of Pioneer DDJ FLX-10 and Rane Four.
What size are the jog wheels
What is the sound like to your speakers
It’s on the video. 😀
This is weird and cringe. Marijuana is officially mainstream.
you are good at talking shit get mixing
@@paulda4615 I can do both.
@@ClevelandTerry😂
nahhhhh
suckers
Moist
It really is an ugly looking beast, and it runs ios I'm really not a fan of anything related too apple....nah not for me...
I doesn’t just run iOS tho.
@ClevelandTerry it's still ugly though...
First lol