Prepare for Violence | Peter Boghossian & Matt Thornton
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- According to author, MMA coach, and one of the first people in the United States to receive a black belt in jiu-jitsu, Matt Thornton, violence is as natural to human evolution as sex and food. In his book, “The Gift of Violence: Surviving and Thriving in a Dangerous World,” Matt provides the tools and mindset necessary to avoid-and if necessary, engage in-violent encounters.
Matt has been Peter Boghossian’s Brazilian jiu-jitsu coach for over a decade, and they are also close friends. In this intimate conversation, they discuss the practical value of jiu-jitsu and MMA training. Matt outlines specific moves to gain control in a fight and the importance of situational awareness and weapon training.
According to Matt, many people have a glamorized view of violence and do not understand the limits of their own capabilities. Worse still, ideology has blunted people’s connection to defensive evolutionary instincts, resulting in dangerous encounters that could be avoided.
Matt Thornton has taught functional martial arts for more than 30 years. He holds a 5th-degree black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and is the founder of Straight Blast Gym International, training champion MMA fighters and world-class law enforcement instructors. Matt addresses policing, gang violence, and crime data in his series “Wokeness, Public Safety, BLM, & Antifa.”
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0:00 Intro
1:20 Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ)
9:40 What to do in a fight
16:55 Grappling/standing
21:48 Basic self-defense
28:20 Knife crime/concealed carry
36:55 Why read Matt’s book
40:00 Rapport between BJJ practitioners
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I hope you enjoyed this conversation!
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There is some legitimate parallel thinking going on here, as I recently talked with a training partner about the way trust is accelerated on the mat, thereby forging bonds much quicker than other hobbies or activities. I could listen to the two of you talk about this subject for hours. Lastly, "Gift of Violence" is a great resource for the culturally inclined (?) martial artist. Solid read.
Purchased. I’m looking forward to reading it.
Actually cutting out after 4 mins because all you talk about is violence.
Do not knife fight. The winner bleeds out on the way to the hospital... the loser bleeds out at the scene.
I’ve just listened to the introduction and heard what you’ve said about PC overriding instinct and I recalled an instance of this travelling. I was backpacking through South Africa and an American lady was telling me she had done this scenic walk along abandoned railroad tracks along the sea. She saw three coloured people approaching her from a distance and she told me that she told herself I mustn’t judge a book by its cover, because that would be racist. They ended up taking everything from her, and threatened to cut her finger off because the ring wasn’t coming off. She’s lucky she wasn’t raped. Being emphatic to other peoples struggles mustn’t come at the expense of situational awareness. There was a township close by and unfortunately in South Africa there is a high level of crime and violence that quite obviously affects the lower socio economic groups who happen to mostly be black and coloured. It isn’t racist to be aware of this.
It's so weird. I bet if she'd seen three random white men approaching her, she would've let her protective instincts inform her behavior. People are being taught to smother their instincts.
Not only in South Africa!!
Matt is, hands down, my favorite discovery from being a loyal follower of Peter’s.
We need to hear more from Matt Thornton- is there any way possible of bringing the NPR discussions back into existence?
Please?
No, seriously.
I'm only halfway through, but thanks for keeping this family friendly so I can listen again with my kids tomorrow.
This goes for the West more broadly. We have become weak and squeamish. That, paired with the moral doubt and self-contempt we harbor, is a recipe for bad times.
Bad times are good times for smart men
Bad times create strong men, and strong men create better times.
Story one : Elderly white woman entering her apartment building is approached by an African American man who she has never seen before, the man said he'd "lost his key" and asked to be let in, following the building policy the woman refuses.
The woman is smeared on SM and MSM as a "racist Karen" the woman loses her job and life destroyed.
Story Two: A young White woman (more than likely aware of Story one) is approached by an ominous looking black man with neck tattoos as she enters her apartment building, this man had also "lost his key" so this young lady ignores building policy and let's the man in, proceeds to get in an elevator with him, three days later her dead body is found on the roof of the building.
It is a crime that the media and current culture are training women (even harshly penalising them) to ignore gut feelings when it comes to their personal safety.
Telling them it's more important to be politically correct than to be safe.
The west is lost in their mobile nightmare rectangles -in constant divided attention
Trying to incentivise/export this to everyone else
What’s worse is that these ideas of repressing our “animal” instincts are propagated by social scientists who should know more than ANYONE what happens when a single person is forced to repressed their instincts/emotions etc- yet believe it’s the best thing for society to do collectively.
I’m quite sure one day we will all reap what has been sown and it will be absolutely devastating.
The more society tries to supersede the natural instincts as though we are not living animals the more animalistic the society becomes.
Thank you for this important conversation that people are not talking about the importance of defensive/situational awareness.
Thanks for watching!
This was a different conversation than I was expecting. I feel like I know you a little better. I think you are funny and have a good sense of humility. It's a good thing you know how to take care of yourself.
I have never taken/studied a Martial Art, but this introduction to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu was amazing. I had no idea that some of them are considered Fake or personally detrimental in any way. Quit eye opening. Thanks
On this platform, search ‘fake martial arts’ or ‘bullshito’, it’s hilarious.
Super interesting crossover conversation that I never expected to see. I trained at SBG many years ago and remember hearing about Matt Thornton. More recently I’ve become an avid watcher of this channel and really enjoy the conversations he has. Still training and growing and stoked to see this video. Great stuff Peter.
Working my way through book now. It's quite good.
Great Talk, Thanx Gents.
Thanks for listening
Everytime someone mentions Dungeons and Dragons, I can't think of anything else than how far Wizards of The Coast has fallen for the woke ideology. It's just crazy sad how they are actively fighting against their own customers, time to let them DEI completely.
Got to roll with Matt Thornton once. Like rolling with a statue. Cool guy. Great conversation.
Hell yeah! Great guys. More bjj/mma content peter!
Thanks Peter, I love this topic. I keep imagining what kind of combo you and Mike Israetel could make in discussion.
I rarely comment on videos but I enjoyed this interview. Lots to think about as a jiujitsu coach and gym owner. I’m always walking the line between teaching the modern sport game and self-defense since we have a lot of young guys who compete and a lot of first responders who have had to use their jiujitsu on the job.
I never even thought about many (most?) people not having experienced physical violence, as Peter suggested. Having a two years older brother with anger issues who is much bigger than me taught me at a very early age what it is to have someone on top of you punching you in the head. In my teens, a bit confused and roaming the streets, I learned it again. And still this conversation makes me feel I am not prepared enough. Does anyone perhaps know someone in Milan, Italy teaching more or less what Matt teaches?
In most European countries one isn't allowed to be in public with things that are designed as weapons, leaving us very vulnerable. What I think could be very useful is a course in how to use regular objects found everywhere as defensive weapons.
For real life defence in a serious situation, BJJ is pretty much the last thing you want to learn - in fact, it's virtually training to put yourself in a vulnerable position.
Non-sport systems that focus on staying on your feet and not getting tied up grappling, and on multiple attackers and weapons. Like Filipino kali and okinawan (non-sport) karate. Muay thai and boxing are also good.
Hit and run.
The lack of emphasis on top position in jiu jitsu drives me insane.
Ready.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s and we had to take wrestling in gym. Any self defense discipline that includes some Form of resistance in legit. Everything else is BS and just exercise.
Apply that to your entire life; don't get used to being on the bottom.
Started at the bottom now we here. Started at the bottom worked our whole way up to here
An excellent commercial.
But I’m sold.
I wrestled in HS snd College. Even coached HS.
Danaher said it best: be fundamentally sound defensively. If not then someone can impose their will on you.
34:50 Oh man....I'm just waiting for the inevitable flood of Aikidoka to swoop in and start defending Aikido. Look as an Aikido practitioner of 12+ years I can say with utter confidence that Matt is 100% correct. And I offer this not as someone who trained at some obscure strip mall gym headed up by some first dan who got his certificate in his friends garage. I studied under two well known and prominent uchi deshi to the founder of Aikido and have visited dozens of Aikido schools in Canada, the US, and Europe and attended almost as many seminars hosting some of the largest names in Aikido. I love the art. I love what I get out of it. But Matt is 100% correct....it's not combat experience....it's pure choreography....it's gymnastics routines in gi and hakama and I'm under no illusions about how ineffective Aikido techniques, as they are practiced day to day in Aikido dojos....would be in a genuinely violent situation.
Yes, I’ve seen Stephen Seagull doing the foxtrot with willing ‘attackers’. 🤣😂
@@johnnunn8688 That's exactly what you've seen in ever Seagal clip ever played I'm afraid. 🙂
Peter if you’re ever in central Florida again, lets roll.
I'm in my 50s, and have bad knees, ankles, and heels. I can't run or jump, because I will re-injure my joints and not be able to walk without pain for months. Given this, can I learn BJJ? I assume not... I carry pepper spray, a knife (which I did train with when I was young), and a gun (which I still train with). I'm not a soft target, and assume most criminals won't be trained martial artists, so I'll probably be OK. But I sometimes wonder about that.
Might wanna work on hip and ankle mobility first. Fix hip and ankle and most knee stuff goes away. Check out Squat University, Movement Gems, Kneesovertoesguy, and Low Back Ability
Good luck!
Start at where your baseline is, small daily dose of movement, small initial gradients of increase and you can improve. Imagine jumping off a team of paper 3x 7 times and everyday you add a piece of paper (0.5-1mm). In 3-6 years you'll be a better beast (Mark, physio, aged 50, been promoting this for 2.5 decades, stop this aging = acquiescence story)
I don't know whether this would help you but it helped a friend who had bad joints -- are you getting plenty of quality protein in your diet? Sometimes a high-grain diet low in good protein can make bad joints even worse. My friend upped his protein intake, and began careful but daily low-impact exercises, and now he can move much more freely and quickly.
@@notmyrealpseudonym6702 Good analogy. Thank you for sharing this with the people you treat. "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good," but also don't let "good" be the enemy of "a whole lot better than if I'd done nothing"!
There was a 58 year old community college science professor at my old gym. He had the same issues. But, you kind of learn to adapt based on what your body allows you to do. You would be surprised at good you can become even when you are older.
Great book. Bought extra copies for two young fathers I know.
That's great!
I have to wonder if this conversation was filmed before or after the murder of Ryan Carson.
Ha! You're my people, soft form martial arts (apparently Aikido isn't cool anymore), dungeons and dragons, atheism and Pete loves Tool, which is ok but they are Tool...
We're the old Oregon trail generation nerds.
Can we prepare for cowardice instead? Like Woody Allen, when I tried to enlist they designated me 4-P. In the event of war, I'm a hostage.
@@sw3783 I've never been successful at investing. One year I tried maximizing profits, so I didn't sell my Christmas tree stock until February.
Sounds like Peter got his purple belt. Congratulations!!
Working on my brown!
@@drpeterboghossian Bravo!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 My apologies. 🙏🏾 I hope to roll with you one day 🤙🏾.
I am very curious to know more about your Escrima experience particularly now you are deeply involved and knowledgeable about BJJ. As it turns out I also spent many years practicing SE Weapon Arts (Arnis, Pencak Silat) before starting BJJ.
Now I’m wondering if you and Lindsay ever spar with weapons...and..is there footage?!! 🤔 Ba Gua Da Dao (Big Broadsword) vs Double Barong. 😵
YAaaaaaawn!
If Pete wants to see more effective escrima laboratories, he should check out the Dog Brothers :)
The Dunning Kruger effect is well known, when you grossly overestimate your own capabilities. Maybe we can introduce a new term where you think you're immune to danger ? I call it the Carson-Kruger effect.
There's no amount of self-defense classes, martial arts, or weaponry that can overcome poor risk assessment. And effective risk assessment can make all of that almost completely redundant.
28:20 - In 2022, there were 1,630 homicides via bladed weapon in the USA of a total 21,156 homicides. There 696 TOTAL homicides in the UK, by any method - 282 via knife.
It would therefore appear that the US view of UK knife crimes is somewhat skewed. Murder by knife is worse in the US, than in the UK.
Population and percentages. The UK has a massive knife crime problem.
@@MarkMackenzievortism The population of the USA, is around 4.93 times that of the UK.
Let's round that up - and say the US is five times larger than the UK.
282 x 5 = 1,410.
Ergo, the incident of death by bladed weapon in the USA is STILL higher than in the UK.
It is simple mathematics.
Wow he looks way different.
Looks younger
Are there bullies in BJJ? You know, the type that when you tap, will hold it or increase the pressure for a second or two.
When they exist, they’re kicked out of the studio.
@@drpeterboghossian ❤️.
Why isn’t Matt, ‘left to his own devices’, he owns the gyms?
Ryon Carson zigged when he should have zagged.
I don’t know Matt but I do love his chocolates.
What is a fantasy based martial art?
Pretty much any traditional or sport "martial art" that claims to be effective (on it's own) for self defence/real life fighting.
If you want to be able to protect yourself, focus on the psychological, tactical, and awareness aspects as much as the physical, develop physical fitness, stamina, and strength, and most of all; psychological conditioning - which you can only really get through repeatedly experiencing actual real violence and getting used to it.
Otherwise, Muay Thai or/and Boxing will condition you mentally and physically. And combat focused Filipino MA's (eg; pekiti tirsia kali) are good, because they primarily focus on weapons (particularly knives).
@@sibanought I practiced a pressure point grappling combo style karate for 17 yrs and yes repetition is what counts.
I wondered if 'fantasy martial art' meant Hollywood style.
@@jackiebiggs7071 If you're interested, there are some people on UA-cam worth checking out.
I would recommend;
Lee Morrison/urban combatives,
Geoff Thompson,
Tim Larkin.
All the best.
There's a whole lot of shit tlking.
9:00
It's interesting to me how this man who thinks of himself as a truthseeker can be so lacking in self awareness. If he was actually interested in things that were true, he would never say that people are atheists because they're interested in what is true. Doing so is an exercise in lazy thinking and arrogance. Someone who was legitimately interested in pursuing truth would maintain more epistemic humility than to be so categorically dismissive of metaphysical questions like the existence of God.
Dear Peter, please use the word "literally" correctly.
It’s the most overused word in English………literally.
Heh. I grew up with a crazy viking looking dude who kicked my ass all the time and ended up being Green Beret. Still good friends to this day.
Can’t wait for the Palestine debate video Peter it was great filming with you.
Rad that you train
Rad? Thats funny, I haven't heard that in quit awhile. Rad, thats funny.
I made more money than the highest paid neurosurgeon today. Two years at community college studying design. Lol. That’s the way the cookie crumbles
#hailSatoshit
That was some pretty arrogant stuff.
Taikwando is still it's own thing, you can be happy for his kids regardless. Try not to be an elitist butt butt.
Dats rayciss
Mat space is actually one of the biggest reasons I picked Judo or Jiu-jitsu. Also, all active Judokas practice Jiu-jitsu.