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@johnbrezinski348 Thank you. I appreciate that and hope you've found relief. I was able to totally cure my pain and actually get off of kratom using Pain Reprocessing Therapy.
Research and curate your own resources and teach them this material yourself! As parents, this is ultimately our responsibility, no one else’s. There are many other intellectuals in this recent gender ideology counter-movement who have made plenty of excellent points regarding this subject matter, and some have written books-Kathleen Stock and Helen Joyce come to mind, to name just two. You could even put salient points from his videos into edited clips or better yet, transcribe them into written material for your kids to read. It may take time but it will be worth it.
as a recently retired pharmacist, I have to say that I am quite disappointed in my profession - the current curriculum is focused on how pharmacists can help transgender patients, completely ignoring the absolute unscientific lies that underpin this ideology...
Yes. For a while, I kind of believed I had politically gone from left to right. but it's actually just society and politics that has shifted during the course of my 40 year old lifespan, and me staying grounded in my core personal value of freedom. I simply can't stand authoritarianism no matter where it comes from. Today it's from the woke left, tomorrow it could be the right.
Just finished my master’s degree 2 years ago at a public university: I’m afraid I have yo agree 100% with the professor here. The forced indoctrination of hyper woke ideology and protection of “victimized identity groups” from any perceived, possible inconvenience (aka microaggressions) has taken over campuses completely. The pathetic thing is what passes for “scholarship” in some of these departments. I did my undergraduate in history and my masters in education. I was was conducting rigorous research for every paper I wrote, citing my sources, and basing my arguments completely on facts, knowing my professor was going to hunt through all of my sources and rip my paper apart if it was subjective or non-scholastic. The “studies” departments on the other hand (gender studies, racial studies, feminism, etc) would just spend their time bitching about the world making subjective claims, offering no hard data to back it up, and as long as they used the right jargon, it got accepted (and even promoted) as “scholarship.” Frankly I’m embarrassed and frustrated with what is happening at so many universities, because it devalues the degree that I (and so many like me) have worked so hard with integrity to achieve.
It's everywhere in the anglosphere, not just in the USA. And because the USA is so dominant culturally/economically, this ideology is being exported all over the World. There's an increasing attempt to inject wokism into asian countries driven entierly by western woke journalists/activists. It's truly a cancer that needs to be destroyed. The rest of the world is sick of this cultural imperialism.
Got an Analytic Philosophy BA in '06, it was real objective work, the went for BA Social Science after... 75% normal history, geography, general ed, then the 3 final finishing and grievance courses were just like you said. They were very unobjective.
Glad I graduated long ago. The way they launder their musings through phony peer review has really destroyed academia. The water is so muddied with fake, manufactured "knowledge" that citations don't mean all that much any more.
My STEM field lab is absolutely infested with this ideology now. I have anonymously opposed it and am considering how and when I will stand up against it. Also, my kindergartner just said "Black Lives Matter." I am thinking we can take a drive around town and show her what this pernicious movement did to our downtown businesses and public property. Thx for the interview. I feel ya on the back pain. Stuart McGill has helped me a lot with mine, perhaps he can help you. Keep up the good work.
I agree with Stuart mcGill!!! Also, I can't believe your Kindergartener has come up with blm on her own. I would inquire with teacher. I have a first grader and subbed 6th grade recently...a teacher told me a book the students were reading was.good for "awareness of white privilege". I politely and firmly said no to that and mulled it over then discussed with principal.
I just applied for a faculty position at a community College. I was asked 7 questions. So, answering one of those "incorrectly" could eliminate you. One of them asked, "what does diversity, equity, and inclusion mean to you." Having that question in there acts as a filter for anyone not aligned with that ideology.
I Feel so happy knowing you (Peter) have established a new University with Kathleen Stock and other rational and brave individuals. Thank you for doing what you all do. I' m from the Philippines and i believe that wokeism have reached our shores a few years ago.
@@amialal4510 I agree. It's only a one off you would have to have lots of examples of the same thing over and over again from different offices and companies etc
Phenomenal interview. And to people commenting about this interview being "old", so what? This is no less relevant now than it was then. I'll take as much Peter Boghossian content as I can get.
In my school site, urban HS, WhatsApp group, I posted an article that, once again, cited a study that correlated student outcomes with high teacher expectations for their students. I was called a racist IN THE GROUP for posting that article. I have been a Democrat since 1976, when I first registered to vote. Last Fall I fled the party. Last month, my district offered a 6 part seminar "Antiracist Somatics for White Educators". I kid you not. That was the title of the seminar... the district PAID consultants to give the seminar and paid teachers for attending. SMH This is an example of the tyranny that Peter was talking about.
I googled the title of the seminar and found this: _"Dissecting whiteness facilitates transformational shifts within and between people and communities where there has been racialized harm or conflict._ _In this community of practice, Susan Andrien and Kusum Crimmel will support this group of white bodied educators to shed layers of harmful white behaviors, while building skills and capacity for more embodied accountability, integrity and deeper self-love through engaging in somatics and healing centered restorative practice."_ Wow, that is just _oozing_ with critical social jargon, isn't it?.. 🤢
I taught in a Doctoral program. Organizational Leadership. It was in a University’s school of Ed. Even though Ed is historically left wing, they didn’t indoctrinate. They hired “nice” professors. Not one Republican out of 120 professors. I have always been independent. When CRT broke out of the asylum, most of the professors were tolerant of this non sense. My student’s exposed me to CRT a decade ago. After 11 years, I gave up teaching classes and am just helping students finish their Doctoral dissertations. I have changed my mind about the future of Universities. If STEM and other rational sciences go Woke. Look out. Society is over. BTW, We read “Pedagogy of the Oppressed” in Graduate School. My professor didn’t appreciate me saying that merging the ideology that murder 100 million people with education is not a good thing. Wasn’t a popular thing to say.
@@thesignalproductions good so that will be an end to it, for us, the consumers of your intelligent work. Really, if you contracted cancer and AIDS I would barely care.
you did a great interview of a brilliant mind of peter boghossian. thank you so much. i am a respiratory therapist. after going through covid, i have lost faith in the domain of health care that i have devoted decades to. i am 61 years old. i hope that your back feels better soon.
The establishment always promotes a ruling ideology to consolidate and justify their dominance; the woke ideology is exactly that. Followers are therefore establishment thinkers.
The way Peter Boghossian describes the WOKE reminds me of a segment from "Thus spoke Zarathustra, on tarantulas" by Nietzsche. Especially at 32:39 regarding how currently they lack power but if they but if they did would terrible things to the people they are against.
Google is no friend here. This is a war and to hear other voices that are fighting back makes the task more bearable. It's easy to feel completely alone when working in what Peter called an ideologically captured institution. I'll be happy to turn out this new batch. I'm making their 5 year plan a 6 year plan. My humble contribution to the war effort.
Alphabet is the monopolistic corporate front of the alphabet mafia. In case you aren't aware Alphabet is Google, it was (past tense) Google that had "Don't be evil". A megacorp promoting leftist ideologies...
For an entire university system across the nation to become so indoctrination oriented and dogmatic there has to be a prime force motivating this phenomenon... a person, a group of persons, organizations, political cabals, etc. Who are they and how have they obtained so much power and influence over our universities and colleges?
I've had the same sort of thing in the UK - querying what some nonsensical wokist phrase means, until the office holder eventually gave up and said "It just means anything you want it to mean!"
I am SO happy for Peter! He's been to hell and back at the pig-sty known as PSU. Knowing he's at UATX and driving the pure inquiry that he seeks makes me very glad. His work, along with that of Lindsay and Pluckrose, has been so helpful to me personally over the last few years. The level of fight in these people is so encouraging.
I think if people got in the habit of examining their actual life experience, they wouldn't hold these ideas about male privilege and white privilege and hetero privilege and all the rest. When I was younger I basically bought into all this, probably because I'm gay was the biggest reason, but as I grew older I found myself constantly defending males and heterosexuals and white people after realizing that the people who have been the closest to me and treated me the best over the course of my life were those exact people. I'm talking about my family, friends, co-workers etc. I realized I didn't have much of a problem with them, and that my political ideas were therefore all incorrect. The reality of my life was totally different than what this victim ideology was saying. The ideology was telling me not to trust my own eyes and ears and experience, but the older you get the more you realize that it is false.
I’m a few years younger than Peter but I had both civics and social studies classes… I even appreciated the humanities classes in my higher education. I can’t imagine what is being propagated under the name social studies now is anything like the classes I had and I know the humanities barely resemble what they were. We saw the beginning of this, but there were still intellectual exercises that kept activism as a secondary role at most. We still believed that you had to have your own s**t together to help someone else back then. Now it appears that the more disturbed people are, the more their lived experiences and personal truths are valued. The whole damned ideological framing is upside down.
So sorry about your back pain. If you can, you should try to reach out to Dr. Stuart McGill in Canada. He's a genius with backs. Love Peter. He's a national treasure. Too good for the den of vipers running our universities today.
Impressive! Thank you for the video, just the fact that this issue is spoken and divulged gives us so much hope. From a female fellow back pain sufferer (I had to lay down just like you for 1 year after a bad scooter incident), daily yoga saved me.
Honestly at this point I don’t see how to stop it. Starting new universities is a good step but it will take decades for it to have a noticeable effect
You shuld read The Engineering of Consent by Edward Bernays. He specifically talks about using universities to indoctrinate the kids of future generations.
I went along silently with so much dumb bullshit because I promised my dying grandmother I would go and finish a degree after I was addicted to heroin for ten years prior. I had one semester I had to sit out for asking questions and at 30 I was not trying to change the world, just fulfill my obligations. I didn’t even go back to pick up my degree. It’ll literally never come up in a conversation
40:50 Adorable. Dogs are so important. The most fabulous creatures on this planet. Thank you for showing your dog to us. 🥰 About the episode. Fabulous of course. It's especially good to present this material through distinct questions sometimes instead of free form. Makes it easer to really grasp the "core" of certain points, to ground this analysis within you and makes it easier to memorize the talking points for our own conversations with other people in life.
Same here ! And I watched till the end to see a dog that looks so much like mine (although my Taco has a black coat). Great interview - we MUST win this Ideological war as the future of the West hangs in the balance .
We should defund all activist disciplines. That or overhaul them. A real postmodern sociology department, for instance could study modernist racist anthropological traits,but should also study and critique current race-based critical theories of anthropology and sociology.
Totally agree. A LOT of the humanities programs need to be defunded. Many "academic" programs involve little to no research or learning anything other than leftist indoctrination. Professors are free to preach wacky ideas on their own time, but public money shouldn't be paying for this craziness.
The ideology in universities meets this defintion of religion: "Whenever a man knows enough to distinguish the outside world from himself, and tries to act in accordance with this knowledge, he begins to be religious. The first element, therefore, in religion is the recognition of the existence of a power not ourselves pervading the universe. And another is the endeavor to put ourselves in harmonious relation with this power. Of course the feeling or affective element is presupposed as coming in between the other two. For without it the endeavor would lack a motive, and could therefore have no existence whatsoever. Every sane man believes, at least, that he is only a fraction of the sum-total of things. He also feels some dependence upon this sum-total, and he is obliged to put himself in some sort of accord with it. This is what [Edward] Caird has condensed into the statement, "A man's religion is the expression of his ultimate attitude to the universe" ("Evolution of Religion," Vol. I, p.30).” -‘What is a Religion?’, Frank Sargent Hoffman, The North American Review, Vol 187, No 627, (Feb. 1908)
I wonder how much contact Peter had with Bruce Gilley at PSU and how many (or few) other faculty shared their experiences. I believe that Bruce is still employed there.
1:40 "I was told by the chief diversity officer..." Okay, that alone is scary. Not only is there an employee whose job is to force diversity into the school whether it is needed or not there is apparently an entire department of people who do this, necessitating a chief among them.
Lots of very sound analysis and commentary here. This is a brave and honest man. However, on the question of climate change, the physics is absolutely rock solid and the scientific evidence is overwhelming - and growing by the day. Questioning in good faith is generally welcomed in the "hard" sciences. But the deliberate spread of misinformation regarding the very ecosystem that sustains us is a real and present danger of an existential scale.
Mises wrote in his 1927 ‘Liberalism’ regarding the political nature of education in diverse populations. There is no way around it and the only solution is school choice and strict limitations on what government (political actors) can mandate schools teach. " In all areas of mixed nationality, the school is a political prize of the highest importance. It cannot be deprived of its political character as long as it remains a public and compulsory institution. There is, in fact, only one solution: the state, the government, the laws must not in any way concern themselves with schooling or education. Public funds must not be used for such purposes. The rearing and instruction of youth must be left entirely to parents and to private associations and institutions."
Great analyses Peter Its marxist dogma meets medeival fundementalism we used to call it Totalitarianism George Orwell s best book in my opinion is Homage to Catalonia about fight totalitarian fascist but alongside totalitarian communists it a lose lose situation which our liberal politions have allowed to fester and now we have to live wirh this shit i only keeo sane by gardening and music
The first step in reforming the academy is the defunding all the nonsense programs and getting wokeism out of programs like nursing and medicine. Yale is an excellent example of a school whos degrees are being downgraded by the private sector. Law school grads (at increasing numbers) cannot pass a State Bar exam.
I remember when nurse training was done in hospitals with block release for the theory side. It worked fine. Accommodation and food was provided and students got paid as well (even if it was a small sum) this was in the UK.
The long march through institutions will not stop anytime soon, in fact, it is achieving its aim of creating division in society. There is time still for the political parties to implement social policy to curb this division and stop societies from collapsing. The problem there though is this ideology has infiltrated all main political parties so the hope is slim. This infiltration has sadly happened in all western countries and the more authoritarian countries are watching and waiting to strike.
I have been teaching in higher ed for 13 yrs and I have never seen such a drastic change in my students. All of my courses (philosophy, mostly ethics-based) have been built with a strong student participation component. This past semester, when I would try to engage my students, I was met with silence. I kept reminding them how much of their grade was based on class participation, but still nothing. Eventually, students began visiting me after class, expressing they did have things to say but they're too afraid to talk about controversial issues in a full classroom. They're afraid of saying, "the wrong thing." So, the place (not specifically)that has largely pushed this movement, has now silenced almost all of my students because they don't know what language is offensive & what is acceptable. Next semester I am teaching a class on prejudice & discrimination. I have taught the class before, but I'm going to have to re-write it from the ground up, hopefully encouraging engagement. My interests are in these areas of discrimination and social justice, so I am accepting of all people. However, I think this woke culture is just another iteration of white privilege rearing its ugly head. White people, like myself, can have strong instincts to do something to help marginalized communities. The problem is when white people decide how to fix the problems these unique communities face without actually asking their members what they would like to see happen. Look at the charter schools in NYC, just as one example. White parents come into a struggling, mostly-black school and whitewash it. Helping end racism, homophobia, or other forms of discrimination is not achieved by contemporary cultural appropriation, (or some other term that hasn't been used yet ;).
I am simply perplexed with the way religion is viewed in so many of these discussions. Please explain to me how anything placed at a position of value doesn't become a religion or act as a tenet to be held as a directive for social harmony?
Excellent discussion but I disagree with eliminating all "studies" departments, specifically religious studies. It has been around since the 60s and has a long history of non-ideological scholarship. Sure, it might have a few high-profile zealots like all humanities and social sciences do, but many of us working in the trenches try to uphold the traditional ideals of higher education. "Studies" departments that are based on victim groups are especially prone to ideological capture, but not religious studies.
Fantasy must not replace reality. Government mandates to recognise and speak untruth as truth is as dangerous as it gets. In this interview Peter says Universities seek truth, they should but they evidently do the opposite.
I'm essentially a progressive. The problem I have with Wokeism is that it's illiberal, abusive and a little authoritarian (not to a Stalinist degree, but at some level). I think the solutions to our identity politics problems should be founded in making sure that the light of the Enlightenment shines equally on all. Example: police brutality. If, in fact, the police are more brutal to blacks than whites, the goal should be to make sure law enforcement treats all people the same. I'm tired of hearing about "privilege" and I want to get back to rights, such as the right of everybody, including black people, to be treated with respect and dignity. We should talk about this in the open forum of our free society, not under fear of threats from ideologues. All this post modern, critical theory stuff seems to want to abandon our Enlightenment, free society ideals. Peter is absolutely right that our universities need to be the public forums of a free society, in which healthy debate can occur. It's on me, as a progressive, to convince people, not on people with other opinions to agree with me. Liberty is essential to democracy. Unless everyone can express their political opinions, our democracy can't function. I'm seriously worried that all this Wokeism will tear our country apart into civil war. I don't condone violence, but, in dialoging with right-wing friends, I've learned that a lot of their perspective on Jan 6 was that it was anti-Wokeist. They agreed that crime and violence are wrong, but they understood the outrage. Now, Jan 6 was pretty crazy. Q-Anon gets mixed in somewhere. But it also shows us that this country is on a powder keg. I think the cure is for all non-Wokeists to join forces to return us to the virtues of a free society. Only then can true debate occur.
Mercia Eliade's seminal book on religious tendencies in secular life "The Sacred and the Profane". Alas, it isn't that we don't have the conceptual framework to understand contemporary social contagion and pseudo-religious dogma. This is a perennial experience playing out in modern times.....we are watching in real time the ideological capture of a culture through a new religion.
it is such a shame that some of those genuinly reasonable concepts like the connection between economic wealth and race -especially in the US -were killed or rendered useless by a lack of proper arguments one factor is a kind of overcorrection and I wonder when the pedulum will swing back but the fact alone that people got into serious trouble for asking factual questions is mind blowing - where, if not at a universitiy, should be a space to discuss ANYTHING
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Oxy addiction is a b#@$h. Makes you feel terrifically clever, at first.
@johnbrezinski348 Thank you. I appreciate that and hope you've found relief. I was able to totally cure my pain and actually get off of kratom using Pain Reprocessing Therapy.
I've never heard of pain reprocessing therapy! So glad you found relief finally ❤
I wish Peter would do a online philosophy class so that my kids could get a proper education
He has entire lecture series available online.
Research and curate your own resources and teach them this material yourself! As parents, this is ultimately our responsibility, no one else’s. There are many other intellectuals in this recent gender ideology counter-movement who have made plenty of excellent points regarding this subject matter, and some have written books-Kathleen Stock and Helen Joyce come to mind, to name just two. You could even put salient points from his videos into edited clips or better yet, transcribe them into written material for your kids to read. It may take time but it will be worth it.
as a recently retired pharmacist, I have to say that I am quite disappointed in my profession - the current curriculum is focused on how pharmacists can help transgender patients, completely ignoring the absolute unscientific lies that underpin this ideology...
The question on why people don't trust our institutions is partly answered in your answer. Too many lies from all areas.
Tobacco paid people to sell cigarettes, pharma paid doctors to sell oxy, now hormones are being pushed.
@@TexasGrandma2010 That and knowing the FDA's part in OxyContin, and the COVID vaccine. How do you trust them again?
all I can really say about that is - holy f**K! Truly terrifying. We really are messing with creation here, a big pandora's box.
I think Peter is correct when he centers the problem on authoritarianism.
Yes. For a while, I kind of believed I had politically gone from left to right. but it's actually just society and politics that has shifted during the course of my 40 year old lifespan, and me staying grounded in my core personal value of freedom. I simply can't stand authoritarianism no matter where it comes from. Today it's from the woke left, tomorrow it could be the right.
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Just finished my master’s degree 2 years ago at a public university: I’m afraid I have yo agree 100% with the professor here.
The forced indoctrination of hyper woke ideology and protection of “victimized identity groups” from any perceived, possible inconvenience (aka microaggressions) has taken over campuses completely. The pathetic thing is what passes for “scholarship” in some of these departments.
I did my undergraduate in history and my masters in education. I was was conducting rigorous research for every paper I wrote, citing my sources, and basing my arguments completely on facts, knowing my professor was going to hunt through all of my sources and rip my paper apart if it was subjective or non-scholastic. The “studies” departments on the other hand (gender studies, racial studies, feminism, etc) would just spend their time bitching about the world making subjective claims, offering no hard data to back it up, and as long as they used the right jargon, it got accepted (and even promoted) as “scholarship.”
Frankly I’m embarrassed and frustrated with what is happening at so many universities, because it devalues the degree that I (and so many like me) have worked so hard with integrity to achieve.
From an outsider of USA it is concerning to find so many testimonies such this, thank you for sharing though.
It's everywhere in the anglosphere, not just in the USA. And because the USA is so dominant culturally/economically, this ideology is being exported all over the World. There's an increasing attempt to inject wokism into asian countries driven entierly by western woke journalists/activists.
It's truly a cancer that needs to be destroyed. The rest of the world is sick of this cultural imperialism.
Make your master study his own degree!
Got an Analytic Philosophy BA in '06, it was real objective work, the went for BA Social Science after... 75% normal history, geography, general ed, then the 3 final finishing and grievance courses were just like you said. They were very unobjective.
Glad I graduated long ago. The way they launder their musings through phony peer review has really destroyed academia. The water is so muddied with fake, manufactured "knowledge" that citations don't mean all that much any more.
My STEM field lab is absolutely infested with this ideology now. I have anonymously opposed it and am considering how and when I will stand up against it. Also, my kindergartner just said "Black Lives Matter." I am thinking we can take a drive around town and show her what this pernicious movement did to our downtown businesses and public property. Thx for the interview. I feel ya on the back pain. Stuart McGill has helped me a lot with mine, perhaps he can help you. Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
I agree with Stuart mcGill!!! Also, I can't believe your Kindergartener has come up with blm on her own. I would inquire with teacher. I have a first grader and subbed 6th grade recently...a teacher told me a book the students were reading was.good for "awareness of white privilege". I politely and firmly said no to that and mulled it over then discussed with principal.
I'm genuinely interested to know in what ways this has infected the STEM fields. Are these people denying objective reality in favor of fantasy?
Don’t get brain surgery from one of them. Nor drive over a bridge if they were the stress engineer.
Go to the hood with her trike, wait. Free life lesson.
Amusingly, when I saw the thumbnail for this I thought it said Peter Boghossian - The New Tranny. I was surprised to say the least :)
I just applied for a faculty position at a community College. I was asked 7 questions. So, answering one of those "incorrectly" could eliminate you. One of them asked, "what does diversity, equity, and inclusion mean to you." Having that question in there acts as a filter for anyone not aligned with that ideology.
I Feel so happy knowing you (Peter) have established a new University with Kathleen Stock and other rational and brave individuals. Thank you for doing what you all do. I' m from the Philippines and i believe that wokeism have reached our shores a few years ago.
Peter B… glass cutting, old school Intellectual
Brilliant
Thank you
A breath of fresh air to listen to Peter talk instead of being brow beaten by woke mobs.
To be a fly on the wall in that meeting with Peter and the diversity officer. I would pay money to watch that interaction!
Good one! Me too! LOL
Why not just record the entire session and just air it out to the world. I would
@@spencerstevens2175 I like the idea. But I'm skeptical if there was enough attention paid to it. Or interest, for that matter.
@@amialal4510 I agree. It's only a one off you would have to have lots of examples of the same thing over and over again from different offices and companies etc
Phenomenal interview. And to people commenting about this interview being "old", so what? This is no less relevant now than it was then. I'll take as much Peter Boghossian content as I can get.
In my school site, urban HS, WhatsApp group, I posted an article that, once again, cited a study that correlated student outcomes with high teacher expectations for their students. I was called a racist IN THE GROUP for posting that article. I have been a Democrat since 1976, when I first registered to vote. Last Fall I fled the party. Last month, my district offered a 6 part seminar "Antiracist Somatics for White Educators". I kid you not. That was the title of the seminar... the district PAID consultants to give the seminar and paid teachers for attending. SMH This is an example of the tyranny that Peter was talking about.
I googled the title of the seminar and found this:
_"Dissecting whiteness facilitates transformational shifts within and between people and communities where there has been racialized harm or conflict._
_In this community of practice, Susan Andrien and Kusum Crimmel will support this group of white bodied educators to shed layers of harmful white behaviors, while building skills and capacity for more embodied accountability, integrity and deeper self-love through engaging in somatics and healing centered restorative practice."_
Wow, that is just _oozing_ with critical social jargon, isn't it?.. 🤢
GIVECWOKE ZOMBUES NO QUARTER! Head shots only!
I taught in a Doctoral program. Organizational Leadership. It was in a University’s school of Ed. Even though Ed is historically left wing, they didn’t indoctrinate. They hired “nice” professors. Not one Republican out of 120 professors. I have always been independent. When CRT broke out of the asylum, most of the professors were tolerant of this non sense. My student’s exposed me to CRT a decade ago. After 11 years, I gave up teaching classes and am just helping students finish their Doctoral dissertations. I have changed my mind about the future of Universities. If STEM and other rational sciences go Woke. Look out. Society is over. BTW, We read “Pedagogy of the Oppressed” in Graduate School. My professor didn’t appreciate me saying that merging the ideology that murder 100 million people with education is not a good thing. Wasn’t a popular thing to say.
The parallels between today's wokeness and the Soviet horrors are frightening.
@@simonhadley8829And the Chinese Red Guard
Love, Peter Boghossian! he is a refreshing voice of reason.
This man is an absolute legend 🙌. The most balanced and thoughtful perspectives laid out
Great interview, loved the summation: Authoritarians vs. non-Authoritarians. This is the battle of our time.
very good, thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope your back feels better soon. Mine has been hurting for a long time.
I used pain reprocessing therapy and am now pain-free. I highly recommend it!
@@thesignalproductions good so that will be an end to it, for us, the consumers of your intelligent work. Really, if you contracted cancer and AIDS I would barely care.
you did a great interview of a brilliant mind of peter boghossian. thank you so much. i am a respiratory therapist. after going through covid, i have lost faith in the domain of health care that i have devoted decades to. i am 61 years old. i hope that your back feels better soon.
The establishment always promotes a ruling ideology to consolidate and justify their dominance; the woke ideology is exactly that. Followers are therefore establishment thinkers.
An they are reactionaries, no less.
The way Peter Boghossian describes the WOKE reminds me of a segment from "Thus spoke Zarathustra, on tarantulas" by Nietzsche.
Especially at 32:39 regarding how currently they lack power but if they but if they did would terrible things to the people they are against.
Google is no friend here. This is a war and to hear other voices that are fighting back makes the task more bearable. It's easy to feel completely alone when working in what Peter called an ideologically captured institution. I'll be happy to turn out this new batch. I'm making their 5 year plan a 6 year plan. My humble contribution to the war effort.
Alphabet is the monopolistic corporate front of the alphabet mafia. In case you aren't aware Alphabet is Google, it was (past tense) Google that had "Don't be evil".
A megacorp promoting leftist ideologies...
5th column works both ways in today's fractal warfare.
Such a great Q & A.
Thank you.
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Laying down! Looks like me. Im a mechanic, I guess I need a pod cast! Good luck brotha on your back. I no how hard and life changing it can be.
For an entire university system across the nation to become so indoctrination oriented and dogmatic there has to be a prime force motivating this phenomenon... a person, a group of persons, organizations, political cabals, etc. Who are they and how have they obtained so much power and influence over our universities and colleges?
See Yuri Bezmenov
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
I’m glad I went to Hillsdale
How informative: perhaps more interviews should be as laid back as this!
😂
What a breath of fresh air
Truth before Tribe would also make for a good discussion platform and segment.
I've had the same sort of thing in the UK - querying what some nonsensical wokist phrase means, until the office holder eventually gave up and said "It just means anything you want it to mean!"
Thank you Very much for this interview, it was excxellent!
Can't wait for this interview! 😊 Thanks for all your hard work 🙏
I am SO happy for Peter! He's been to hell and back at the pig-sty known as PSU. Knowing he's at UATX and driving the pure inquiry that he seeks makes me very glad. His work, along with that of Lindsay and Pluckrose, has been so helpful to me personally over the last few years. The level of fight in these people is so encouraging.
This is a very good interview, thank you!
I love Peter. Such an incredibly brave and highly intelligent and honest man.
I am so glad to hear of the University of Austin. The new standard bearer for education. Good for you!
Amazing interview thank you!
Yes - students and staff at Universities should be in pursuit of academic truth .
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I think if people got in the habit of examining their actual life experience, they wouldn't hold these ideas about male privilege and white privilege and hetero privilege and all the rest. When I was younger I basically bought into all this, probably because I'm gay was the biggest reason, but as I grew older I found myself constantly defending males and heterosexuals and white people after realizing that the people who have been the closest to me and treated me the best over the course of my life were those exact people. I'm talking about my family, friends, co-workers etc. I realized I didn't have much of a problem with them, and that my political ideas were therefore all incorrect. The reality of my life was totally different than what this victim ideology was saying. The ideology was telling me not to trust my own eyes and ears and experience, but the older you get the more you realize that it is false.
Excellent.
I’m a few years younger than Peter but I had both civics and social studies classes… I even appreciated the humanities classes in my higher education. I can’t imagine what is being propagated under the name social studies now is anything like the classes I had and I know the humanities barely resemble what they were. We saw the beginning of this, but there were still intellectual exercises that kept activism as a secondary role at most. We still believed that you had to have your own s**t together to help someone else back then. Now it appears that the more disturbed people are, the more their lived experiences and personal truths are valued. The whole damned ideological framing is upside down.
So sorry about your back pain. If you can, you should try to reach out to Dr. Stuart McGill in Canada. He's a genius with backs.
Love Peter. He's a national treasure. Too good for the den of vipers running our universities today.
I'm fine now, since I figured out the problem, but thanks!
Impressive! Thank you for the video, just the fact that this issue is spoken and divulged gives us so much hope.
From a female fellow back pain sufferer (I had to lay down just like you for 1 year after a bad scooter incident), daily yoga saved me.
I'm glad you got relief. I did, as well.
@@thesignalproductionsquality frankincense oil does wonders (it's anti-inflammatory)
@@thesignalproductions not enough to shut up about it.
@@robleahy5759You have a sad life.
@@thesignalproductions And you seem to have a great deal of time to waste.
I feel smarter after having watched this episode 😂 Brilliant discussion!
quality channel. quality interview. keep it up bro
McMinnville high school has a social justice class now. It is elective but it is not just colleges
Bummer.
Honestly at this point I don’t see how to stop it. Starting new universities is a good step but it will take decades for it to have a noticeable effect
Don’t hire a kid from there.
excellent interview, I just had to sub after that ❤
Back pain is a b'tch, I have problems with my vertabrae all over, so I'm sending you strength..
Thank you. I'm all better now. Best of luck with your situation.
Hey man. Hope your back gets better! Thanks for your channel and this interview
I appreciate it!
You shuld read The Engineering of Consent by Edward Bernays. He specifically talks about using universities to indoctrinate the kids of future generations.
Great interview, Peter!
YES! I've been saying that for ages - its not about right versus left its about extremism or as Peter B puts it its about authoritarianism.
I totally understand the back pain interview position. Be well!
Thank you.
I went along silently with so much dumb bullshit because I promised my dying grandmother I would go and finish a degree after I was addicted to heroin for ten years prior.
I had one semester I had to sit out for asking questions and at 30 I was not trying to change the world, just fulfill my obligations.
I didn’t even go back to pick up my degree. It’ll literally never come up in a conversation
I misread the headline as “The New Tranny”!!! I was shocked that Peter had switched sides. Thanks for the discussion, it was informative and useful.
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Lets' goooooooo! See you tomorrow
Brilliant interview.
40:50 Adorable. Dogs are so important. The most fabulous creatures on this planet. Thank you for showing your dog to us. 🥰
About the episode. Fabulous of course. It's especially good to present this material through distinct questions sometimes instead of free form. Makes it easer to really grasp the "core" of certain points, to ground this analysis within you and makes it easier to memorize the talking points for our own conversations with other people in life.
Dogs are a bit obsequious - a trait I deplore in humans, so why should it be okay for canines?!
And pianos. Anyone who doesn't own a musical instrument should buy one, now!
Same here ! And I watched till the end to see a dog that looks so much like mine (although my Taco has a black coat). Great interview - we MUST win this Ideological war as the future of the West hangs in the balance .
@@philiphudgens4726 you must deplore leftys then .
I used to teach high school and quit when this shit started happening
great talk!
I'm so glad I graduated in 1990!
I hope you back feels better 😅
We should defund all activist disciplines. That or overhaul them. A real postmodern sociology department, for instance could study modernist racist anthropological traits,but should also study and critique current race-based critical theories of anthropology and sociology.
Totally agree. A LOT of the humanities programs need to be defunded.
Many "academic" programs involve little to no research or learning anything other than leftist indoctrination.
Professors are free to preach wacky ideas on their own time, but public money shouldn't be paying for this craziness.
The ideology in universities meets this defintion of religion:
"Whenever a man knows enough to distinguish the outside world from himself, and tries to act in accordance with this knowledge, he begins to be religious.
The first element, therefore, in religion is the recognition of the existence of a power not ourselves pervading the universe. And another is the endeavor to put ourselves in harmonious relation with this power. Of course the feeling or affective element is presupposed as coming in between the other two. For without it the endeavor would lack a motive, and could therefore have no existence whatsoever. Every sane man believes, at least, that he is only a fraction of the sum-total of things. He also feels some dependence upon this sum-total, and he is obliged to put himself in some sort of accord with it. This is what [Edward] Caird has condensed into the statement, "A man's religion is the expression of his ultimate attitude to the universe" ("Evolution of Religion," Vol. I, p.30).”
-‘What is a Religion?’, Frank Sargent Hoffman, The North American Review, Vol 187, No 627, (Feb. 1908)
great stuff!
Great job guys
I wonder how much contact Peter had with Bruce Gilley at PSU and how many (or few) other faculty shared their experiences. I believe that Bruce is still employed there.
They are friends, and we filmed a series with Bruce a couple years ago. It's on Pete's channel.
@@thesignalproductions ~ Thanks. I think I've watched all there is to watch of Bruce on UA-cam. I'll look into your channel.
@@ShunyamNiketana - there’s a new Bruce interview on YT. On imperialism, of course.
@@Orson2u ~ Thanks, Orson.
1:40 "I was told by the chief diversity officer..." Okay, that alone is scary. Not only is there an employee whose job is to force diversity into the school whether it is needed or not there is apparently an entire department of people who do this, necessitating a chief among them.
7:37 Thank you Travis!
This is ironic. I am experiencing back pain now and i am watching it lying down.
Lots of very sound analysis and commentary here. This is a brave and honest man.
However, on the question of climate change, the physics is absolutely rock solid and the scientific evidence is overwhelming - and growing by the day. Questioning in good faith is generally welcomed in the "hard" sciences. But the deliberate spread of misinformation regarding the very ecosystem that sustains us is a real and present danger of an existential scale.
Great to hear what someone thought two years ago...
Yeah, please don't read any books or pay attention to what any dead people have ever said.
Mises wrote in his 1927 ‘Liberalism’ regarding the political nature of education in diverse populations. There is no way around it and the only solution is school choice and strict limitations on what government (political actors) can mandate schools teach.
" In all areas of mixed nationality, the school is a political prize of the highest importance. It cannot be deprived of its political character as long as it remains a public and compulsory institution. There is, in fact, only one solution: the state, the government, the laws must not in any way concern themselves with schooling or education. Public funds must not be used for such purposes. The rearing and instruction of youth must be left entirely to parents and to private associations and institutions."
I really like the expletive 'fuck'. My fav🤪
Thankfully, Jordon Peterson is not alone.
The truth is always the better path, whether you feel it that way or not.
The opposite of what Sam Harris thinks.
This was absolutely excellent. How do I get a job at the new university?
I wondered the same thing. At the very least, I will be supporting their endowment--assuming they have one.
the footage of street epistemology 😂 amazing work 👏
Great analyses Peter Its marxist dogma meets medeival fundementalism we used to call it Totalitarianism George Orwell s best book in my opinion is Homage to Catalonia about fight totalitarian fascist but alongside totalitarian communists it a lose lose situation which our liberal politions have allowed to fester and now we have to live wirh this shit i only keeo sane by gardening and music
Are you going to sue Portland University?
This video would have been 10x better if Peter was also lying down
No doubt. Next time.
The first step in reforming the academy is the defunding all the nonsense programs and getting wokeism out of programs like nursing and medicine. Yale is an excellent example of a school whos degrees are being downgraded by the private sector. Law school grads (at increasing numbers) cannot pass a State Bar exam.
I remember when nurse training was done in hospitals with block release for the theory side. It worked fine. Accommodation and food was provided and students got paid as well (even if it was a small sum) this was in the UK.
The long march through institutions will not stop anytime soon, in fact, it is achieving its aim of creating division in society. There is time still for the political parties to implement social policy to curb this division and stop societies from collapsing. The problem there though is this ideology has infiltrated all main political parties so the hope is slim. This infiltration has sadly happened in all western countries and the more authoritarian countries are watching and waiting to strike.
Imagine he was lying on the couch like that for a Jordan Peterson interview.
I wanted to hear more about the New University of Austin. In particular why is it taking so long to get started?
I missed the intro and was confused by why you were lying down hah
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I have been teaching in higher ed for 13 yrs and I have never seen such a drastic change in my students. All of my courses (philosophy, mostly ethics-based) have been built with a strong student participation component. This past semester, when I would try to engage my students, I was met with silence. I kept reminding them how much of their grade was based on class participation, but still nothing. Eventually, students began visiting me after class, expressing they did have things to say but they're too afraid to talk about controversial issues in a full classroom. They're afraid of saying, "the wrong thing." So, the place (not specifically)that has largely pushed this movement, has now silenced almost all of my students because they don't know what language is offensive & what is acceptable. Next semester I am teaching a class on prejudice & discrimination. I have taught the class before, but I'm going to have to re-write it from the ground up, hopefully encouraging engagement. My interests are in these areas of discrimination and social justice, so I am accepting of all people. However, I think this woke culture is just another iteration of white privilege rearing its ugly head. White people, like myself, can have strong instincts to do something to help marginalized communities. The problem is when white people decide how to fix the problems these unique communities face without actually asking their members what they would like to see happen. Look at the charter schools in NYC, just as one example. White parents come into a struggling, mostly-black school and whitewash it. Helping end racism, homophobia, or other forms of discrimination is not achieved by contemporary cultural appropriation, (or some other term that hasn't been used yet ;).
Can you please give specific, concrete examples of what you mean by “parents come into a struggling, mostly black school and whitewash it?”
Peter is one more sober person
in the sea of Kafka.
"Remove classes that end with the word 'Studies'." -Peter B
The Rainbow Fascists
I am simply perplexed with the way religion is viewed in so many of these discussions.
Please explain to me how anything placed at a position of value doesn't become a religion or act as a tenet to be held as a directive for social harmony?
Excellent discussion but I disagree with eliminating all "studies" departments, specifically religious studies. It has been around since the 60s and has a long history of non-ideological scholarship. Sure, it might have a few high-profile zealots like all humanities and social sciences do, but many of us working in the trenches try to uphold the traditional ideals of higher education. "Studies" departments that are based on victim groups are especially prone to ideological capture, but not religious studies.
Fantasy must not replace reality. Government mandates to recognise and speak untruth as truth is as dangerous as it gets.
In this interview Peter says Universities seek truth, they should but they evidently do the opposite.
I'm essentially a progressive. The problem I have with Wokeism is that it's illiberal, abusive and a little authoritarian (not to a Stalinist degree, but at some level). I think the solutions to our identity politics problems should be founded in making sure that the light of the Enlightenment shines equally on all. Example: police brutality. If, in fact, the police are more brutal to blacks than whites, the goal should be to make sure law enforcement treats all people the same. I'm tired of hearing about "privilege" and I want to get back to rights, such as the right of everybody, including black people, to be treated with respect and dignity. We should talk about this in the open forum of our free society, not under fear of threats from ideologues. All this post modern, critical theory stuff seems to want to abandon our Enlightenment, free society ideals. Peter is absolutely right that our universities need to be the public forums of a free society, in which healthy debate can occur. It's on me, as a progressive, to convince people, not on people with other opinions to agree with me. Liberty is essential to democracy. Unless everyone can express their political opinions, our democracy can't function. I'm seriously worried that all this Wokeism will tear our country apart into civil war. I don't condone violence, but, in dialoging with right-wing friends, I've learned that a lot of their perspective on Jan 6 was that it was anti-Wokeist. They agreed that crime and violence are wrong, but they understood the outrage. Now, Jan 6 was pretty crazy. Q-Anon gets mixed in somewhere. But it also shows us that this country is on a powder keg. I think the cure is for all non-Wokeists to join forces to return us to the virtues of a free society. Only then can true debate occur.
I can't believe that there is such a thing as fat studies.
Well there’s a lot to study these days.
@tommcfadden5232 Why not skinny studies or tall studies?
This is the weirdest therapy session I've ever seen.
😂😂😂 Best comment.
Mercia Eliade's seminal book on religious tendencies in secular life "The Sacred and the Profane". Alas, it isn't that we don't have the conceptual framework to understand contemporary social contagion and pseudo-religious dogma. This is a perennial experience playing out in modern times.....we are watching in real time the ideological capture of a culture through a new religion.
Wait, the bassist for the Grateful Dead is a teachers’ union representative?
My first thought as well!!🎉
it is such a shame that some of those genuinly reasonable concepts like the connection between economic wealth and race -especially in the US -were killed or rendered useless by a lack of proper arguments
one factor is a kind of overcorrection and I wonder when the pedulum will swing back
but the fact alone that people got into serious trouble for asking factual questions is mind blowing - where, if not at a universitiy, should be a space to discuss ANYTHING
There are Christian colleges that still have a modicum of sanity and scholarship left.