2019 VW GTI Rabbit Review - DSG vs Manual, GTI vs Everything

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  • @TheStraightPipes
    @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому +28

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    • @Gadlabay
      @Gadlabay 5 років тому +4

      Sup ! Floor the dsg a little bit more , you'll hit the forced downshit switch ! ;) wont be so long before it downshifts

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому +3

      Do we look like people who don’t floor it the most lol

    • @Gadlabay
      @Gadlabay 5 років тому +1

      LOL just thought you didnt know as you said its taking a long time downshifting

    • @Squid165
      @Squid165 5 років тому +4

      I own the 2017 Sport with DSG and prefer it for the quick shifts and the pops. Only downside is the wet dual clutch requires a very expensive maintence every 40000 miles

    • @alextube1101
      @alextube1101 5 років тому +1

      @@TheStraightPipes i think vw still hides a button under the accelerator so Floored vs mashed lol the button in the older 5 cylinders was the only at to get them to open up

  • @iplaythedrumsgood
    @iplaythedrumsgood 5 років тому +1153

    Yuri complains about the downshifts of the dsg but keeps the car in eco haha

    • @nate9489
      @nate9489 5 років тому +50

      yuri's a silly boi

    • @larryeckerdt9750
      @larryeckerdt9750 5 років тому +59

      Looked like a set-up for failure on Yuri’s part. Love my GTI with dsg (but I can’t have a stick - prosthetic legs!j.

    • @FlockOfBoxine
      @FlockOfBoxine 5 років тому +3

      @@larryeckerdt9750 If you don't mind me asking, how difficult is it to use the pedals, and how much feel do you have?

    • @larryeckerdt9750
      @larryeckerdt9750 5 років тому +24

      @Brian Orent Ankles don’t articulate, so it’s hand controls (that don’t interfere with a regular driver). No way to use launch control, because gas and brake are same lever in opposite directions. Haven’t hit anyone yet!

    • @Android.Paranormal
      @Android.Paranormal 5 років тому +52

      I know, that's super annoying. That automatically invalidates his opinion on the DSG. As someone who owns a DSG GTI its extremely fast shifting in Sport mode. Split second shifts.

  • @TheMustacheMurderer
    @TheMustacheMurderer 5 років тому +170

    I drove both the GTI & the N. The 2019 GTI is in my driveway. I regret nothing.

    • @kbk011
      @kbk011 5 років тому

      TheMustacheMurderer lol!

    • @nsbioy
      @nsbioy 5 років тому +1

      Good choice

    • @anthonyantoine9232
      @anthonyantoine9232 3 роки тому

      What was your reasoning? These two cars are the main two cars that I'm looking at right now.

    • @apcordero99
      @apcordero99 3 роки тому +7

      @@anthonyantoine9232 Interior is a huge thing that's for sure. Overall quality the GTI wins. It's a lot more refined for a daily. The Veloster N however, wins in stock performance. I've yet to see the potential of these cars, but the GTI has a long history of being a rocket after some basic tunes. The N is just too cheap for me to sit in everyday, I'll admit it's a lot more fun stock for stock than the GTI.

    • @tylerb3132
      @tylerb3132 3 роки тому +1

      Im about to get a 2020 GTI autobahn, super excited for it

  • @andrewbarlow4335
    @andrewbarlow4335 5 років тому +659

    Drove the N, was absolutely blown away by how good it was. Bought a GTI, just an all around better daily car

    • @puga4202
      @puga4202 5 років тому +47

      good choice my friend. with the larger interior space and cargo space, GTI make more sense if you have to drive it everyday for everything.

    • @flowremix
      @flowremix 5 років тому +69

      I don't own either but I feel like the gti is better overall and for long term. The gti is polished and refined IMO

    • @ThroughFallenEyes
      @ThroughFallenEyes 5 років тому +25

      i feel like you made a good choice. a friend of mine has a stock veloster (non turbo), and the engine blew at just over 100,000 km. his mom has the turbo, engine blew at 120,000km. seems odd to me that they both blew an engine just out of warranty from daily driving an automatic.

    • @stephenhendricks103
      @stephenhendricks103 5 років тому +4

      @@TerribleUsernameAmirite Hyundai felt, correctly I think, that the Veloster N with its lower price point and lighter weight would attract enough additional buyers to make it more profitable in the US. In general it appears that Hyundai decided to introduce one or the other vehicle in most, if not all, national markets. Europeans get the i30N reflecting the appeal of sports sedans in those markets while North Americans get the "hot hatch" Veloster N, instead.

    • @franklinescalante5378
      @franklinescalante5378 5 років тому +14

      I would have gone with veloster N. Everyone praises how fun it is. It's an honor that the old chief of the
      BMW M DIVISION made this car. It speaks for itself. He wouldn't let a car go out in production without that German elegance on the road. You feel me bro @AndrewBarlow

  • @liamwood2878
    @liamwood2878 5 років тому +112

    Didn't realize I clicked a Veloster N Review

  • @Matthew-vw6gy
    @Matthew-vw6gy 5 років тому +676

    Yuri: "This DSG is boring"
    Also Yuri: *keeps car in eco mode*

    • @DarklightRebel
      @DarklightRebel 5 років тому +4

      Why take it out of eco if you find the transmission boring?

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому +38

      @@DarklightRebel He thought it was boring because he LEFT it in eco. That's the worst spot, it should at least he in normal, and the sport mode is the fastest shifting automatic in the world(besides supercars and much more expensive cars of course).

    • @DarklightRebel
      @DarklightRebel 5 років тому +12

      @@roboticvenom1935 pretty sure he's driven it in sport mode at some point. I have, and I find it boring because it's an automatic. You guys are fixating on the Eco mode. This isn't about the mode, it's about the fact that manual is simply more fun, regardless of mode. But keep reaching I guess.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому +19

      @@DarklightRebel I'm pretty sure he hasn't because there's no reason to leave it in damn eco mode throughout the majority of the review when it should at least be in manual, ALSO, since I own a mk7 GTI, it didn't even look like he used sport mode around the cliche corner

    • @Matthew-vw6gy
      @Matthew-vw6gy 5 років тому

      @@DarklightRebel One would assume using one of the sportier modes would possibly speed up the shifts, but I won't make a definitive statement because I don't know for sure if that's the case with the GTi.

  • @JustinAbroad
    @JustinAbroad 5 років тому +99

    DSG is unbelievable with a tune.

  • @TheStraightPipes
    @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому +370

    Correction: The DSG GTI does indeed have launch control. We did try to use it but it didn't work for some reason. But it does have it, as we confirmed with Volkswagen Canada

    • @fishjohn014
      @fishjohn014 5 років тому +15

      There aren't 2 ways of pronouncing "decal".....

    • @StephenButlerOne
      @StephenButlerOne 5 років тому +1

      I have the leaon ST FR with the 7 speed dsg and I can confirm the launch control isn't worth having. It just doent grip and you get violent wheel hop. Until 3rd. Or even forth if its cold.
      If it's wet, it's actually quicker in normal than sport for the same reasons too. I have a great single lane country road I drive down every night form work. If wet, sport is about 10s slower over a 5 min hoon form one end to the other. Lots of short burts and slow corners. The lsd in the cupra edition helps out alot.

    • @reginaldbowls7180
      @reginaldbowls7180 5 років тому +1

      Also the armrest MOVES FORWARD at least my 2017 does. Just pull the lever and pull it?

    • @Beach5and
      @Beach5and 5 років тому +2

      Also you can extend that arm rest.

    • @evontommy
      @evontommy 5 років тому +5

      Disable traction control, kick it in sport mode, hold brake while holding the rev at 3k rpm...then enjoy!
      PS...review the Mark II Tiguan asap!

  • @TonyAutoWerks
    @TonyAutoWerks 5 років тому +153

    The arm rest does move forward! Pull lever that raises it and pull it forward

    • @joespittle1
      @joespittle1 5 років тому +1

      I do it all the time instead of pulling it up, it's gotten a bit frustrating

    • @jayt4697
      @jayt4697 5 років тому +2

      it doesn't matter. it's a VW so it will be broken soon enough.

    • @HudMan4U
      @HudMan4U 5 років тому +21

      @@jayt4697 stupid.

    • @mkviis
      @mkviis 4 роки тому

      Jay T stupid.

  • @b4k3dpot8to2
    @b4k3dpot8to2 5 років тому +384

    The way Yuri pronounces decal should be illegal

    • @corbelius6
      @corbelius6 5 років тому +18

      LOL what about his pronunciation of Manual "manwell" 6:16 LOL

    • @JDL3777
      @JDL3777 5 років тому +6

      Canadians eh

    • @spacep0d
      @spacep0d 5 років тому +4

      As someone who used to make decals, I agree. If you can't say 'decal' right, say 'sticker'. :D

    • @spacep0d
      @spacep0d 5 років тому +1

      @@corbelius6 I thought that was a joke. I hope it was a joke.

    • @Broba_Fett
      @Broba_Fett 5 років тому +1

      If Jakub didn’t say it correctly after I wouldn’t have understood what Yuri was talking about lol

  • @omgness1234
    @omgness1234 5 років тому +129

    "it takes forever to downshift"
    "I just mostly left it in econ mode"
    huh...i wonder why it wasn't fast lol

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому +10

      Put it in Econ after realizing sport wasn’t super fast

    • @whorutothink
      @whorutothink 5 років тому +56

      @@TheStraightPipes Was that before or after you failed to get the car to launch with launch control?

    • @shvkap
      @shvkap 5 років тому +10

      @@TheStraightPipes Nah u such a hater Yuri

  • @veedubden8710
    @veedubden8710 4 роки тому +4

    Since my first DSG in my ‘08 Jetta Wolfsburg 2.0T, I’d never again be biased. The DSG’s are amazing transmissions!

  • @flyguy_13
    @flyguy_13 5 років тому +300

    Yuri is such a GTI hater, leaving the car in Eco mode and complaining that it's not a quick shifter / not as fast or fun / etc.
    Also, GTI definitely has launch control and definitely has an adjustable armrest where your arm reaches the steering wheel.

    • @Slim_Pickens
      @Slim_Pickens 5 років тому +24

      jazzguitar13 Exactly. I was come on man. Just trying to find reasons to complain.

    • @MrTibblez
      @MrTibblez 5 років тому +19

      @@Slim_Pickens Yeah I love these guys but this one was just a full-on hate fest from Yuris end xD

    • @DarklightRebel
      @DarklightRebel 5 років тому +1

      There is a delay between hitting the paddles and feeling the car shift, including in sport mode. I considered an automatic, and decided on a manual, it's just more fun. I'm pretty sure he feels that way as well. He wasn't hating on the car, he was hating on the transmission.

    • @RicHSAD2
      @RicHSAD2 5 років тому +12

      @@DarklightRebel There's only a noticeable delay when cruising around. If you give it some gas the shift are very quick, especially in Sports mode.

    • @davidvilchez2209
      @davidvilchez2209 5 років тому +1

      Even my base model mk6 gti has launch control

  • @MozzaBurger88
    @MozzaBurger88 5 років тому +3

    I'm mesmerized by that "dialogue" between the two in separate cars. It's so smooth to watch.

  • @boozaa
    @boozaa 5 років тому +49

    1. DSG had launch control
    2. Arm-rest is adjustable
    3. Downshifts are slow, but you’re in ECO mode😂
    Overall, still a good review. Definitely the best car in its class.

  • @vr6gls
    @vr6gls 5 років тому +299

    Came for biased manual fanboy review. Leaving satisfied.
    Also, Yuri is clearly a GTI hater.

    • @basithph8958
      @basithph8958 5 років тому +1

      vr6gls yeah I’m up for manual too

    • @formentorvz5
      @formentorvz5 5 років тому +11

      DSG makes no sense in a GTI, in an R its understandable because it launches like hell, but in the GTI the front wheel drive will ruin it anyway so I would prefer the more engaging manual...oh and its also cheaper.

    • @vr6gls
      @vr6gls 5 років тому +32

      Actus Are you serious dude?? DSG makes perfect sense in a GTI. Especially if the GTI will be your daily driver. The DSG is faster, can hold more power, more convenient and more comfortable. Engagement and being fun to drive is a purely a subjective opinion. Manual fans act like their opinion is the only one that matters.
      I much prefer the DSG in my GTI for spirited and track driving because it allows me to focus on steering, braking and car control. That is what I driver should be focused on while driving.
      This “review” was pointless because going into this both of these guys already were biased going into it. 👎

    • @basithph8958
      @basithph8958 5 років тому +6

      vr6gls it might seem biased but I’m going go for the manual I’m okay with the DSG for the RS3 but the GTI it has to be a manual transmission that is one of the requirements of a hot hatch and I like the R more and it is a great car with the 6-speed manual
      But I would get the Veloster N over the GTI

    • @vr6gls
      @vr6gls 5 років тому +9

      BASITH PH Fine and that is your opinion. However, you can’t present your objective opinions as facts. The DSG being faster, more convenient and more comfortable are objective facts that cannot be debated.
      A manual transmission does not make every car better. In many cases in today’s automotive landscape, the opposite is true. I value performance over being a wannabe Paul Walker.

  • @MrVara411
    @MrVara411 5 років тому +16

    Always love your reviews but have to say - I'm more and more impressed with the chances you guys are taking with your camera angles. Great videography!

  • @atticuscatullus
    @atticuscatullus 5 років тому +146

    I hear what you're saying about the Veloster N in terms of performance. But I just can't get over the stupid asymmetrical doors!

    • @SiderisSpyros
      @SiderisSpyros 5 років тому +14

      The i30 N looks much better and the i30 fastback N way much better.

    • @noirceur_
      @noirceur_ 5 років тому +4

      And the fact it is south Korean crap hyundai that will start rattling within 15,000 miles

    • @paulcotton5096
      @paulcotton5096 5 років тому +3

      T. S where do you get that from? I have a 15 Veloster turbo with 30 k miles and a 15 cla 45 with 27 k miles and the Veloster has no rattle anywhere compared to the baby amg. If anything, the Veloster I treated worse and still feels like it’s in perfect shape. I had to wrap the cla 45 because Mercedes paint wast as good quality as the Hyundai

    • @atticuscatullus
      @atticuscatullus 5 років тому +3

      @@noirceur_ If this were ten years ago, I totally agree, but Hyundai and Kia have come a long way in terms of quality in the last decade. My experience is that they are at least competitive with North American cars for quality if not usually better.

    • @atticuscatullus
      @atticuscatullus 5 років тому

      @@SiderisSpyros I agree it's a good looking car if you only look at it from one side. I just can't stand that it isn't symmetrical.
      Edit: I did not realise the what the i30 N was. I agree, it's beautiful. It's also not coming to North America... Which makes it not an option.

  • @lucienl9465
    @lucienl9465 5 років тому +73

    Armrest = You can move it. My base 2017 golf has it too

    • @YTB_JSNFARRELL
      @YTB_JSNFARRELL 5 років тому +9

      Both of our 2019 GTI REs are adjustable in height and length.
      This is also documented in the Owner's Manual.

    • @selaudinagolli4638
      @selaudinagolli4638 5 років тому +5

      Your 2017 golf? How about my 2006 golf 5 😂

    • @swingbag12
      @swingbag12 5 років тому +1

      Your right...my 2015 golf tdi goes up and forward

    • @lucienl9465
      @lucienl9465 5 років тому

      @@swingbag12 ya so they just didn't bother or downgraded the brand new 2019 gti

    • @lucienl9465
      @lucienl9465 4 роки тому

      @@TheG60528XiJinPing wrong topic. And nope.

  • @mysuzyq1100
    @mysuzyq1100 5 років тому +55

    Dude driving the DSG clearly has no clue about the capability of the car he's testing.

  • @hellboy1976
    @hellboy1976 5 років тому +20

    I bought a new 2019 Golf R in DSG thanks in part to your Golf R comparison video. I couldn't be happier with my choice, it's a fantastic ride.

  • @rickyrich93
    @rickyrich93 5 років тому +4

    This felt like the most complete review in a long time. Seemed to hit all the marks of their best reviews. Great Reivew Guys!

  • @robinleach2390
    @robinleach2390 5 років тому +3

    In 2008 I bought a new Golf GTi manual in Tornado red. I still have it 11 years later. It's a truly great car.

  • @DeeJayAdverb
    @DeeJayAdverb 5 років тому +137

    Veloster is great but i think people prefer the quality of the Gti, but what do i know :P

    • @ronski5940
      @ronski5940 5 років тому +4

      I've driven the Veloster N and the GTI. Honestly Hyundai has improved SO much. The interior in that car is stellar, and the infotainment in the N (all Hyundai) is amazing.

    • @MrTibblez
      @MrTibblez 5 років тому +7

      This was one of my deciding factors with the GTI, it just so damn nice, and just a quick easy ECU tune and the car comes ALIVE!

    • @freerider604
      @freerider604 5 років тому

      I love the look of old VW Bugs - but the reliability of the modern VWs in my experience (after owning 3) is crap! I’ve owned 2 Kia’s and the reliability is top notch! I will never go back to any German car!

    • @drhanifp
      @drhanifp 5 років тому +3

      Well speaking of reliability, newer generation of VW cars are actually crap. I hate to admit that korean actually making good quality cars these days.

    • @drhanifp
      @drhanifp 5 років тому +4

      German cars are not something to rely on anymore. With those innovation and technology, their cars are getting more complicated and less reliable.

  • @vrpk7
    @vrpk7 5 років тому +12

    The arm rest in this car is the best!! It ratchets up so if your arms are long enough you can get both elbows propped up.

  • @dasninjastix
    @dasninjastix 5 років тому +30

    First Straight Pipes video I watched was last year's GTI review. I ended up with a 2018 SE w/the DSG. No real complaints, I do not like the styling of the competition. The Golf gives you plenty of headroom and practicality with decent performance and solid comfort for short and long hauls. I think it has the right amount of power for a FWD vehicle of its size, I could also do with less gloss black in the interior.
    I was originally waiting for the new Mazda 3 and in now in hindsight, I'm very happy I picked the GTI. The Veloster performance looks stellar especially for the price range but the styling and interior is not my taste at all.

    • @kd6836
      @kd6836 5 років тому

      Das Ninjastix the entire Volkswagen line looks like it was designed by adults. Many other males look like kids designed them. Honda and Toyota are not good now IMO. Volkswagen is winning market share partly because of others’ over styling.

    • @dangme11
      @dangme11 5 років тому

      Das Ninjastix Mazda 3 was like driving a melted tub of butter compared to the GTI.

  • @aamirqz
    @aamirqz 5 років тому +17

    I like how Jakub is wearing a plaid shirt that matches the plaid seat upholstery.

  • @pasharespect
    @pasharespect 5 років тому +235

    Why is Yuri such a GTI hater? 🤔 VW didn’t like his hoodies?

    • @ontheaction1
      @ontheaction1 5 років тому +4

      I think he just enjoyed the golf R alot more

    • @MrTibblez
      @MrTibblez 5 років тому +17

      I knowwww right?? I absolutely LOVE my GTI! Especially being a daily driver, It's just absolutely perfect!

    • @pasharespect
      @pasharespect 5 років тому +10

      ontheaction1 it seems like he is more into Veloster N, but it doesn’t compete with GTI overall as a great daily driver. As a weekend cheap track car - maybe, cause it has more power and it’s more like a race schoolboy car. In terms of what they have to compare Veloster N with GTI TCR or Clubsport, which has a record for fwd on Nurburgring, btw. But nothing beats GTI in daily driving. I checked interior of every Hyundai and they are far below even the cheapest VW.

    • @pasharespect
      @pasharespect 5 років тому

      Tibet Akyurekli fully agree

    • @muznick
      @muznick 5 років тому

      @@MrTibblez the best daily driver I've ever owned.

  • @Sajikibara
    @Sajikibara 5 років тому +76

    I just dont like the size of the Veloster N...either be a coupe or be a four door hatch...that 3 door mess makes me uninterested...

    • @erikhanes9491
      @erikhanes9491 5 років тому +4

      Same here. Make it a 4 door and I would want it.

    • @robertjusic9097
      @robertjusic9097 5 років тому

      What about the audi a5 coupe? It looks sporty and great

  • @Android.Paranormal
    @Android.Paranormal 5 років тому +15

    I bought a GTI with the Manual. The clutch started slipping at 34k miles with no mods. I drove a manual RSX Type-S for 7 years with no clutch slip, so clutch slip was not caused by me. VW refused to fix despite being under warranty.
    So I traded it for a DSG, because clutch failure that early in a stock car was unacceptable. I ended up loving the DSG better. Its more fun to me because its faster and because launch mode. Plus its less likely to fail.
    CONCLUSION: Do not buy a manual GTI unless you're okay with having to putting a higher performing clutch, many others have had clutch failure early in the GTI too. The stock clutch in the GTI are too weak for the power this car has, but the stock DSG is nearly indestructible with being able to handle over 450 lbs of torque.

  • @jrmt6
    @jrmt6 5 років тому +19

    Even if the Veloster N out drove the GTI, the cheap plastic interior bits is a no go for me. I actually really like how nice my Mk7.5 GTI is inside and it's one of the main reasons I picked it over the Si, WRX, and the ST. If it's a car I'm going to daily and spend a lot of time in, I want a nice interior in addition to being fun to drive.
    ALSO. As far as the manual vs DSG. If you're planning to tune these cars, the manual can't handle much more additional torque and tunes eat up clutches on that. Even the low-torque tunes still end up needing sooner clutch replacements. The DSG is good for upwards of 400lb-ft of torque supposedly.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому +1

      Nah the DSG's don't have a power limit yet. If they were only good for 400 horsepower then they'd break with JUST a tune that gives you 370 wtq. The DSG's haven't been broken yet, and the DSG is bone stock in IROZ's mk7 GTI with 550-600 whp and 600 wtq.

    • @No1reallydies
      @No1reallydies 5 років тому

      jrmt6 the DSg in my Mark 6 could take 500 bhp

    • @stevenyia2778
      @stevenyia2778 5 років тому

      Manuals with clutches can handle the additional torque if you know how to handle it..

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому

      @@stevenyia2778 Only if you upgrade them a ton, stock clutches can't handle jack. And it'll always wear out pretty quickly.

    • @jrmt6
      @jrmt6 5 років тому

      @@roboticvenom1935 That's why I said upwards of 400. I know it can go higher lol

  • @davidbugarin
    @davidbugarin Рік тому +2

    4 years later, and I’m still in love with my GTI Rabbit in Cornflower Blue, and yes, I definitely went with the manual. Best decision ever! 🐇

  • @evanquezada4383
    @evanquezada4383 3 роки тому +1

    when I first watched this video when it came out I wanted a GTI so bad. Then a year later I made it happen and couldn't be happier.

  • @Guvb235
    @Guvb235 5 років тому +34

    The Veloster N is great (as is its i30 N sister car) but it is F I R M! The Golf GTI is a much better all-rounder, and its interior doesn't look like it's made by Fisher Price. I've had my 2019 GTI Original (a 3-door limited edition they did here in Australia) manual and I absolutely adore it so far.

  • @joedonnelly387
    @joedonnelly387 5 років тому +8

    Absolutely loving the content guys, hands down my favourite channel currently

  • @No1reallydies
    @No1reallydies 5 років тому +123

    GTI is a million times better looking than the i30n, nicer interior design, better reliability

    • @affinity3281
      @affinity3281 5 років тому +2

      I have a 2018 GTI SE and I don't know about the GTI being a million times better looking. They are both nice and probably the same on reliability. Albert Biermann from BMW had a hand designing the i30N and Veloster N, so it does have German influence. Both great cars. If i30N was offered in the states I would have loved to try one.

    • @conortrapani616
      @conortrapani616 5 років тому

      Affinity we have the veloster N here which is very similar

    • @affinity3281
      @affinity3281 5 років тому

      @@conortrapani616 Similar in performance, but the rear seats make it a useless car for me so I would never buy it. I would have considered an I30N though.

    • @nikchris69
      @nikchris69 4 роки тому

      No.

  • @YasmanyHernandez
    @YasmanyHernandez 5 років тому +25

    C'mon guys the armrest does move forward and also moves and stays up, at least in my 2017 GTI S. Nice reviews, keep it up!!!

    • @Android.Paranormal
      @Android.Paranormal 5 років тому +2

      They said a lot of inaccuracies in this video.

    • @taco-badger
      @taco-badger 5 років тому

      Came here to say this, my '17 arm rest moves forward but I never do it.

    • @pharmZey
      @pharmZey 4 роки тому

      My 2007 golf has it😂

  • @MrSlimanus45
    @MrSlimanus45 5 років тому +1

    The guy who worked on the Porsche 911 chassis tuned the GTI chassis it’s not fast as hell but I test drove the GTI in corners just sticks like it’s glued to a roller coaster track

  • @wilneeley907
    @wilneeley907 4 роки тому +3

    This video + your 2018 GTI review led me to buy a manual 2019 GTI S trim (my first manual) in Great Falls Green. I'm loving it!

    • @MrBasstothemax
      @MrBasstothemax 10 місяців тому

      Still got it? How's the green been I love that color

  • @sherizaahd
    @sherizaahd 5 років тому +58

    The GTI Looks so much better than the Velocter, at least in that picture.

    • @Billy.Matson
      @Billy.Matson 5 років тому

      100%!!! Velocter doesn’t have the legacy of the GTI, I get it’s a good/fun car, but it just doesn’t draw me in with its appearance.

  • @fangzhengguo8089
    @fangzhengguo8089 5 років тому +7

    Have a mk6 GTI and absolutely love it, the rabbit edition looks awesome!

    • @rootsmanuva82
      @rootsmanuva82 5 років тому

      One of the overlooked aspects of the MK6 vs MK7 is the MK6 is made in Germany while the MK7 is made in Mexico. The differences in build quality and fit and finish is subtle but noticeable. It's the first thing I notice when sitting in a new GTI, cheaper plastic here and there. The MK7 is definitely better than the MK6 due to the MQB platform and more power.

  • @brandonmcfarland5200
    @brandonmcfarland5200 3 роки тому +2

    That Rabbit Edition Is My Favorite & I Love The DSG 🇺🇸.

  • @flopkin
    @flopkin 5 років тому +9

    Just if they had the i30N in North America... but since we’re stuck with the Veloster, my bet will always be on the GTI.
    If it was a 1v1 with the GTI and i30N, I think you’d really have to weigh what your goals are with the car, because both cars do their jobs to near perfection.

    • @paulcotton5096
      @paulcotton5096 5 років тому

      I30 n from everything I’ve seen. I even seen one at Sema in person. It was awesome.

  • @dawsonlafferty9772
    @dawsonlafferty9772 5 років тому +2

    I have a 2016 autobahn manual gti and I absolutely love it, I drive it everyday to school and work and have never had an issue with wanting the DSG. Manual and gti all the way!!!!

  • @aoj-iy9fz
    @aoj-iy9fz 5 років тому +5

    The reason these two think the armrest does not slide forward is simple. They reviewed the Golf R first and the armrest on the Golf R does NOT slide forward like they do on the GTI and base Golf. I'm disappointed they didn't try sliding it first before saying that.

  • @mikebroom1866
    @mikebroom1866 5 років тому +17

    Apr stg 1 ECU / TCU fixes SO many issues. DSG if you don't want to replace that clutch though.

    • @AlexD02
      @AlexD02 5 років тому +1

      Aren’t DSGs prone to fail around 70k+ Miles?

    • @jstoli996c4s
      @jstoli996c4s 5 років тому +4

      Alexander De La Cruz I have 137k miles on my DSG GTI, no problems at all. Just make sure the fluid is changed every 40k miles per specs.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому +3

      @@AlexD02 No, DSG's don't fail at all in 70k miles. Essentially none have failed in mk7's, are you thinking of an older generation because that makes no sense buddy

    • @647killa
      @647killa 5 років тому +3

      Mk7 GTI owner here with the 6 speed. The DSG also has clutch friction plates, which are stupid costly to replace. Rather replace a good old single-disk. Also, if you’re a good driver, manual clutches are known to last very long. Tuned cars are different stories altogether.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 5 років тому +1

      @@647killa True, but it's extremely rare to see those fail. They last, and the DSG hasn't even had ANY issues on IROZ's race car with around 600 whp and 600 wtq(built motor of course since rods max out at 420-450 wtq. Not to mention the fact that clutches are expensive and stupid weak on mk7's, after just putting a baby tune on your car the clutch is trash and you'll have to go aftermarket, it's also something you have to replace at a certain interval each time. Not to mention the incredible difference between speeds of the DSG's and manuals,

  • @jordans5792
    @jordans5792 5 років тому +39

    I would take the GTI over the veloster N because the GTI has a usable backseat... if there was an Elantra N hatchback in the states I would pick that over the GTI all day.

    • @soulest2081
      @soulest2081 5 років тому +1

      My sentiments exactly.

    • @max.power89
      @max.power89 5 років тому +8

      I'm from Germany and I have the i30n ( elantra n ) ! Had an mk6 gti before and I test drove 2 mk7 gti's! I think the gti is the better Allrounder but the i30n is much more fun! But both are great cars!

    • @Syrinx-Priest
      @Syrinx-Priest 5 років тому +1

      This is exactly how I feel.

    • @dave_riots
      @dave_riots 5 років тому

      It'd be even nicer if they had the i30n Fastback here. 😍

  • @ericmotion4488
    @ericmotion4488 5 років тому +173

    NEW SEGMENT ALERT!!!! The Hard Touch Plastic Test.

    • @ThaSaw
      @ThaSaw 5 років тому +2

      I own a MK7 and sat in a Veloster N at an auto show - hard touch plastics everywhere it was insane.

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute 5 років тому +4

      Actually really valuable to hear the tone differences!

    • @drwhotardis
      @drwhotardis 5 років тому +1

      The N performance is fantastic, but, inside it is decidedly low rent...hard plastics everywhere.

    • @BrockGamingGarage
      @BrockGamingGarage 5 років тому +1

      Here's the thing. It's not how much hard touch plastics are there, it's what it looks like and the Euros still blow everything else away in terms of interior design

    • @ericmotion4488
      @ericmotion4488 5 років тому

      @Gabriel hernandez nah.

  • @Joe-eg7ml
    @Joe-eg7ml 5 років тому +8

    Because EA888 is very tunable and alot of aftermarket support. You can make a bunch a power. KDM aftermarket support is not there in comparison. A $700 tune in the gti and you are in the power of the N (probably a bit more depending on tune provider)

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker 5 років тому

      Joe or $400 JB4.

    • @Joe-eg7ml
      @Joe-eg7ml 5 років тому

      @@JoJoJoker was giving the most expensive stage 1 tune I know of.

    • @JoJoJoker
      @JoJoJoker 5 років тому +1

      Joe yup! I’m on my 3rd APR car.

    • @tnguyen5998
      @tnguyen5998 5 років тому

      But tunes void the factory warranty. Something to note. I'm APR II on the last year of the mk6 platform. VW refused the intake manifold warranty due to TD1.

  • @kent570253
    @kent570253 5 років тому +4

    I paused the video at 1:42 just to say this. It does not matted how good the N is, it is still a Hyundai that will not hold value just like any Hyundai, will rust fast like a Hyundai, will not age well like any Hyundai.... How many of you guys are looking for Old school Hyundai: None, why? Because they are shitboxes. Now, how many people are looking for old GTI's, Scirocco's, Corrado's, Westfalia's, tons. Why, because they are awesome. Ok, the N is a cool new car, sounds great, is different. But in the end, I think I will age bad. All hyundai's are cool for 2 years, then they look like shit and age bad. The engine will probably start knocking in 3 years and the hard plastics inside the car is probably already scratched/ end rant.

  • @eppyz
    @eppyz 4 роки тому +16

    Veloster over a GTI that's the best joke I've heard all week 🤣😭😁

  • @robbybully8186
    @robbybully8186 5 років тому +1

    I love my GTI MK7.5 DSG every Day! HE becam a tuining by ABT and now it have 300HP/420NM!! A lit of fun more to drive!!
    Greetings from Germany 👋👍

  • @anthh3255
    @anthh3255 5 років тому +7

    4:01 that's some slick editing. Very nice!

  • @peterjwu
    @peterjwu 5 років тому +1

    The DSG on the GTI does have launch control. And the armrest does let you select any angle and slides forward so you can rest your arm while holding the steering wheel!

  • @joshuadaniel4613
    @joshuadaniel4613 5 років тому +3

    Guys props to you for calling out hyundai n division as a sports car manufacturer. Some people just cant accept that Hyundai can make cars other than value oriented ones.

    • @shizzLd352
      @shizzLd352 5 років тому

      It's not that they can't accept it. It's Hyundai's build quality and durability that concerns people. Sport hatches get thrashed around and need to do many jobs because of their purpose. I've worked on both makes of cars and have honestly seen some terrible issues when I take apart a Hyundai. The interiors don't hold up as well either. Hopefully they start building them better and stronger for their performance line.

  • @sirflexinton
    @sirflexinton 5 років тому +1

    I was just doing my research on this car and you guys posted this. It's like you can read minds.

  • @juanlanzalot8969
    @juanlanzalot8969 5 років тому +5

    And i'm still here with my gti mk4 from the early 2000, still happy tho

  • @omphulusadivine3829
    @omphulusadivine3829 5 років тому +2

    Oh My God you guys are too GOOD its unbelievable!! ... soon you'll have a million then more

  • @attnMoFo
    @attnMoFo 5 років тому +3

    There's something to be said about the classic good looks, lines, and reputation of the GTI. The Veloster may be an awesome car, but the GTI is an old favorite with modern specs.

  • @tonyren.tr5
    @tonyren.tr5 5 років тому +2

    Today is game 7 of Bruins vs Leafs, Bruins won both game 7s of last two appearances between them, let’s hope the last Canadian team still keeps their chance alive! Go Leafs!

    • @tonyren.tr5
      @tonyren.tr5 5 років тому

      Oh, and I saw you at the Raptors game and Jakub wearing Leafs jersey at that game, on Instagram

  • @sebastian-daquanglocknerjr1883
    @sebastian-daquanglocknerjr1883 5 років тому +18

    I sense bias when comparing veloster n. Imo the interior is inferior.

  • @davidking4686
    @davidking4686 5 років тому

    Great to see the GTI back on your channel! Just bought a 2018 Autobahn GTI that had been sitting in my local lot for a year, got a great deal on it. Y'all helped to convince me to give it a chance. I tried a Velocter N but I got a kid now, need a usable backseat. Though, if Elantra N / i30N was an option, I would have bought that without second thought.

  • @tkusterb
    @tkusterb 5 років тому +4

    I had a 2012 GTI 3-door manual. Videos like this make me wonder why I ever traded it in.

  • @ctalierciojr
    @ctalierciojr 5 років тому +2

    There is Launch Control on the DSG on the GTI.....Track Control off.... BRAKE... full gas....RPM will only go up too about 2,500.... release brake

  • @supraphonic88
    @supraphonic88 5 років тому +8

    The Veloster N is probably a fantastic car to drive but it's still dumb as hell. Why would I want three doors

  • @Carguylogan
    @Carguylogan 2 роки тому

    Just tune the GTI. I had stage 1 flashed on my GTI 3 days after I bought it lol. $1200 OTD for the Uni stage 1 ECU and TCU tunes done by a shop. It made a large difference in power. I'm impressed by my fiance's Kia Soul turbo also. The dual clutch is good and the car is quick. I put a Race Chip RS on it and it has more than enough power for a Soul.

  • @LifeISMagix
    @LifeISMagix 5 років тому +9

    People pick the Golf because this car has a legacy and been around for more than 30 years. Veloster N is the new kid on the block.

    • @zakk5688
      @zakk5688 5 років тому +1

      It’s been around well over 30 years

    • @GetIrked
      @GetIrked 5 років тому

      I drove a number of Hyundais when they first came to the U.S. in the 90's and then rented a Veloster 2 years ago. I can't do it. I'm the modern-era version of the guy who refuses to buy Honda in the 60's because of "The War." Sigh. Make mine Mazda, Toyota, Honda...

  • @Jesse_Nolan
    @Jesse_Nolan 5 років тому +1

    i love seeing my favorite roads in the videos guys, keep up the great work

  • @stevegaspar
    @stevegaspar 5 років тому +8

    Perhaps you can also test these cars in everyday conditions. I find the GTI to be great all around car. With DSG being better for traffic conditions plus launch control. Also the Veloster N is nice but, subjectively speaking, I do not like the look of it. GTI has a subtlety that I love. But I'm biased. Oh and GTI horsepower tends to be under rated with many being 15-20 HP higher than stated.
    Also for infotainment you can control everything from the steering wheel or voice activation. Works very well. Not sure why you didn't mentioned any of that? Did you even try that? I assume not.

  • @jonathan_careless
    @jonathan_careless 5 років тому +1

    Just to be clear, the GTI doesn't have 'pumped in audio' exhuast noise the way say a BMW does with the sound coming through the speakers. Rather it uses a little 'noise maker' in the engine compartment which 'buzzes' to make the exhaust sound louder. Still fake, but not playing anything through the car's entertainment system.

  • @Day7Reset
    @Day7Reset 5 років тому +7

    The camera work is awesome. Is it a motorcycle mount system or a really fast drone?

    • @kylegibson4963
      @kylegibson4963 5 років тому

      Close ups im Pretty sure its the camera on the cars(u cant see them)

  • @zombieslayer551ify
    @zombieslayer551ify 4 роки тому

    Excellent camera work gentlemen! I’m in the market for a GTI and this video was extremely helpful. Thank you and God bless.

  • @wailianmin4127
    @wailianmin4127 5 років тому +3

    YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE THE GOLF R

  • @flipfloplogic
    @flipfloplogic 5 років тому +1

    The golf GTI is the only car that would make me consider cloth seats over leather. The cloth design is awesome.

  • @wahid1228
    @wahid1228 5 років тому +3

    Still and always will be the number 1 hot hatch

  • @bpsdetailing8822
    @bpsdetailing8822 5 років тому +1

    Also - the GTI has an amazing engine. For about $1200 USD you can turn a GTI into a monster just by tuning the ECU and the DSG or upgrading the clutch for the manual. A good tune will add about 70-100 HP and 70-100 ft lbs. The other cars mentioned will not hold that amount of power for that low of a price, they will need a ton more upgrades to make the power and be reliable. For those worried about warranty you can get a JB4 piggy back tune that won't add as much power but is only about $385 USD and will make the car faster than most other cars mentioned. I know I know damn GTI fan boy......

  • @gryphon123456
    @gryphon123456 5 років тому +6

    Will companies EVER understand that piano black in car interiors should be outlawed and EVERYONE hates them? STOP USING PIANO BLACK!!!

    • @denisbaraniak9715
      @denisbaraniak9715 5 років тому +1

      Not true, not everyone hates them, but I agree that a factory fit of piano black is disgusting

    • @nandakore2275
      @nandakore2275 5 років тому

      How about carbon fiber trim?

    • @shroomyesc
      @shroomyesc 5 років тому

      @@nandakore2275 Certainly at least fake carbon fibre, I've come to hate it even in expensive cars because I can't help myself associating it with cheap shitboxes that want to look "sporty"

  • @BrandonK80
    @BrandonK80 5 років тому +1

    Great review guys! Actually DSG GTI does have launch control. Sport mode, traction off, brake, gas. Arm rest slides forward in the SE so I would think it would in the Rabbit as well.

  • @affinity3281
    @affinity3281 5 років тому +3

    Veloster N misses a very important design element of a hatchback. Practicality.

  • @CubanRider
    @CubanRider 5 років тому

    I'm really happy they added a mechanical LSD to the GTI. The bigger brakes from the Golf R and 7 speed DSG are all welcome additions. I have a 2017 base GTI, and while I bought it new at a discount ($21,500 USD), the lack of LSD is its most glaring flaw. Still, for less than $25k nothing came close.

  • @murqs7847
    @murqs7847 5 років тому +3

    Have never pressed a notification faster. Love from Australia ❤️❤️

  • @stristan6302
    @stristan6302 5 років тому +1

    The Golf used to be called The Rabbit, instead of Golf. So it’s a historic name they are bringing back. I love it as we had a VW Rabbit when I was a teenager back in the 80’s.

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому

      Yeah this is the first time there's a Golf and Rabbit trim, at the same time

  • @alexbaker7243
    @alexbaker7243 5 років тому +4

    So many Golf fanboys getting butthurt that Yuri doesn't buy into the GTI circlejerk. In the end everything is subjective.
    Also love the Si shoutouts and the appreciation it's getting for the awesome fun car it is.

  • @Android.Paranormal
    @Android.Paranormal 5 років тому +1

    From someone who has owned both a Manual and DSG MK7 GTI...
    1.) The DSG is faster than the manual in the GTI, not just the Golf R. They are wrong.
    2.) Yuri has no idea what he is talking about saying DSG is boring... while he is ECO mode. That automatically invalidates his opinion of the DSG.
    3.) Jacob is wrong. The DSG does also have launch control. At least in the US it does.
    Really annoying they are giving out so much inaccurate information.

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому

      At least get your facts straight before ranting
      1) we never said it was faster
      2) Yuri drove the car "most" of the time in Eco mode as he said. He obviously tried the DSG in sport mode and then found it boring, so he drove the rest of the time in Eco mode.
      3) Jakub* said it didn't have launch control because when we tried it, it didn't work. It worked in our 2018 review. I reached out to vw Canada and they said this DSG has it but didn't know why it didn't work for us. This correction is now the top comment on this video.
      Have a great day

    • @Android.Paranormal
      @Android.Paranormal 5 років тому

      @@TheStraightPipes1.) Yuri: "and you only want the auto when its way faster" Jakub "exactly! That's exactly how I think." (Also how I think too lol). Since Jakub said he prefers the faster transmission and then said he prefers the manual GTI, then yes he did indicate the manual was faster saying those 2 statements.
      3.) Oh okay, i see. Usually you guys clarify in the video when things that don't work. Didn't expect background on that.

  • @MrTARIQSs
    @MrTARIQSs 5 років тому +8

    2:52
    u sure?
    I have a 2016 dsg gti and it HAS launch control
    +the arm rest actually can move up and forward

    • @YTB_JSNFARRELL
      @YTB_JSNFARRELL 5 років тому +1

      + the GTI Rabbit Edition has a VAQ Limited Slip Differential

  • @SquiggleSquared
    @SquiggleSquared 4 роки тому +1

    Just bought this car this week. First stick shift ever :)

  • @denseinside
    @denseinside 5 років тому +3

    i didn't get notifications but early! thanks UA-cam recomendations!

  • @Xenon0000000000001
    @Xenon0000000000001 5 років тому

    I'm always reminded of a review of the last gen Focus ST by a dutch youtuber who said "If you like fondling dashboards, buy the Golf GTI, if you like driving, get the ST". I think the same thing applies now with the Veloster N.

  • @xtrem3climber
    @xtrem3climber 5 років тому +6

    Absolutely love my GTI Rabbit. Daily driver / commuter. Manual transmission for the win and is just so much fun to engage a car once again.
    ONE complaint - 1st and second gear can be a LITTLE sticky (especially compared to the Focus / Fiesta ST), but this should be rectified with synthetic oil :)

  • @TurtleSoupGuy42069
    @TurtleSoupGuy42069 5 років тому

    This was the first video I’ve seen from you guys. I like the conversations and the amount of content covered. So many channels take too long to say something

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому

      Thanks, watch some of our other "normal" videos when we're both in the same car

  • @Nikiaf
    @Nikiaf 5 років тому +3

    There seems to be a major design flaw in MQB cars re: the steering column. I have an A3 and that steering column massively impedes leg/knee room, plus the key placement is AWFUL. I basically have to keep it a few milimeters from my knee just to have a semi-decent driving position.

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  5 років тому +2

      !!!!

    • @dupsatou
      @dupsatou 5 років тому

      Same here but I did get used to it. I have an 18 R and it took a few weeks but then I forgot all about it.

  • @dub537h
    @dub537h 5 років тому +2

    The public poll chose the gti, their response "doesn't make sense, I'd take the N" lol naw, they chose correctly.

  • @RotaryLover
    @RotaryLover 5 років тому +8

    The issue I had with the Veloster N was how cheap the interior felt. I realize that I should drive it...but I got turn off completely by this.

    • @andrewsilver9730
      @andrewsilver9730 5 років тому +2

      That's a compromise you have to make for a car that's performance oriented and cheap

    • @whorutothink
      @whorutothink 5 років тому

      @@andrewsilver9730 No, that's called unimaginative and lazy design. Only Hyundai apologists use that line.

    • @RotaryLover
      @RotaryLover 5 років тому

      @@andrewsilver9730 Well...my Fiesta ST interior looks miles better and despite it being cheap AF and the ergonomy issues, the color choices makes it look ''premium'' (I use that word loosely). I do understand that this way, Hyundai can give the Veloster N at a great price... But I'd be driving everyday in this thing and design as a whole needs to be great for me. But who knows, a test drive could flip the switch.

  • @blueburyrs949
    @blueburyrs949 5 років тому +2

    @TheStraightPipes the GTI with DSG does have launch controle and it will also build turbo boost compared to a manual which doesnt, and you do get the DSG farts when shifting, Yuri just didnt floor it enough. It almost felt like he did it on purpose to not floor the car just to hate it even more lol and why drive in eco mode ?? alot of people who owns a DSG drives in the manual mode.

  • @pd925
    @pd925 5 років тому +3

    DSG all the way! Love driving in manual mode and flicking the paddles while BOTH of my hands stay on the steering wheel while flying through corners!!

  • @iamnotinarush
    @iamnotinarush 5 років тому +2

    Test drove the GTI Autobahn yesterday and the Golf comfortline... comfortline was fairly quick, but the GTI was completely next level and in Sport mode makes it an addiction to drive... It's dangerous.

    • @stevenbruno7710
      @stevenbruno7710 5 років тому

      iamnotinarush I’m actually test driving the Rabbit here soon, how did you like it? I’m a fairly new stick driver but I’m really looking forward to what it offers.

  • @Ason426
    @Ason426 5 років тому +3

    GTI with a stage 1 tune or Veloster N?
    Stage 1 tune is only $650CAD and gets 297HP and 346TQ. You get a nicer quality interior, "German engineering/ refinement", more practical car, and faster, than the Veloster N.

    • @zakk5688
      @zakk5688 5 років тому

      Where do I get the stage 1 tune at

    • @SoMagic17
      @SoMagic17 5 років тому

      @@zakk5688 I have a 2017 and went with APR's stage 1 high tq, 316bhp and 396ft/lb tq, changes the car drastically. If youre interested in apr you can find the closest shop that does their tunes on their website

    • @JimLahey1234
      @JimLahey1234 5 років тому

      Well if youre modding the car then youd prob buy the less expensive one anyway?

    • @SoMagic17
      @SoMagic17 5 років тому

      with modding in mind, it'd be smarter to go with whatever responds better to the mods rather than just whats cheaper

  • @Frozia_3
    @Frozia_3 5 років тому +1

    GTI is better because I don't get to work on a track, in fact, I don't get anywhere on a track. Definitely a bargain, but a rabbit edition GTI just has the better offer being that it sacrifices 50hp compared to the N to give it better comfort and imo styling.

  • @bearded1der563
    @bearded1der563 5 років тому +3

    "This transmission is so good!" referring to the manual. Yeah, unless you add ANY power. Then the clutch can't hold

    • @devn3813
      @devn3813 5 років тому

      Nate R I’d rather replace the clutch then replace a dsg. At least everyone with the Jetta with the dsg has slipping issues even on stage 1

    • @bearded1der563
      @bearded1der563 5 років тому +1

      @@devn3813 Oh don't get me wrong. I have a GTI that's stage 3 big turbo making over 400whp and I chose the 6 speed haha. I prefer to have fun driving the car than be the absolute fastest. I'm just saying bringing to light the fact that the stock 6MT clutch can't hold jack for power haha.

  • @peeborp
    @peeborp 5 років тому

    love my GTI, got a used '16 earlier this year & it's such a blast to drive.
    & the exterior mounted cameras are looking great! keep up the good vids guys.