I own a 2018 GTI and I recently put a Cobb Stage 1 tune on it - so it puts out about 275 hp. Since I bought it right when the outbreak started I got a deal - my car had 12,000 miles on it and all in with my tune, taxes and a set of TSW Bathurst wheels in gunmetal grey I am in it for around $24500. It is an amazing car - it is replacing my 2016 Civic commuter car and my 2003 Mazda Miata track car. My other car is a 2013 911 Carrera and I would say that the combination of those two cars is as close to automotive nirvana as I have experienced in my lifetime so far.
I dont like Porshe or VW but I have to admit those 2 companies do make amazing drivers cars with the amazing handling and power to weight..also random but the e46m3 and the focus RS are also ammmazing drivers cars..I know the 2 cars I mentioned are different and yearrrss apart but after all the cars I've driven and trust me it's many those cars stood out to me alot when it came to driver engagement...my dream car the Lexus RCF was a very nice car with good power but it felt so heavy and lazy at times and the cars you mentioned deff feel more responsive to driver inputs
They are just a bit boring and overpriced. But they have a very good balance between sportiness and use ability. But the i30n and other comparable cars are just more exciting
Like some others said, the pedals cam is really appreciated (feels like these old Japanese drift videos!). I hope you will release more videos with this, setup! Cheers o/
I've got a 19 Rabbit Manual and I've put about 20k on it. Had some heavy commuting for a while and it handles traffic wonderfully. It's the perfect balance as everyone says. Right amount of power to have fun with, but slow enough that you can run through the gears without going to jail. It's always had just the right amount of cargo space. If you can't have other cars, or need something a bit more reasonable it's the perfect choice.
Chris723 you can pick up one without stupid tech options for 25k and less than 10k miles. I’m with you though, would never pay that kind of money for a GTI, nor a golf R.
@@kjh4112 generally the used ones are holding decent value. I would never buy new of course. Picked up a 2017 GTI Sport 6MT for $17,600 with 37K miles in July and all similar cars are in the $20K+ range now in the North East area. For some reason, the average price has gone up in the past year...
Almost 1 year in on my 2019 Autobahn manual. It is such a joy to commute everyday with it. It feels like pure luxury, and well thought out (unlike other manufacturers that slap stuff together). 6 year warranty too. Different class than Si and WRX.
I drive a used Mk7 Golf R, which I got after a used Mk7 GTI, after a used Mk5 GTI. All DSG, I tuned and modified them all, and the R is the one I just want to keep until I can get an F80 M3 Comp. I can’t overstate how quick this thing is with a stage 1 tune. We’re talking high-3 0-60, low-12 quarter-mile. What I had unending frustration with with the GTIs was grip at daily driving speeds. Do I use more full throttle than most people? Yes. But $950 on wider tiresthat lose their grip after one year, with other inexpensive traction mods too, was the only way to get some satisfaction from a tuned GTI. A tuned Golf R can put down 400hp in first gear with average all-seasons, or hang the tail out if you turn the wheel sharply while doing that. I’ve got 64k miles on mine now, and the only issue I have is rattling interior trim, and that’s possibly from the louder exhaust. It’s got light and direct controls, snappy DCT upshifts, and for $30k all-in, including the tune, I can drive my kids to 60 repeatedly in 4 flat in a small, zippy little thing that doesn’t draw much attention.
I have had many cars and I agree with this. I normally change cars every year or 2 but it doesn't look like I will get rid of my MK7 R. Its just does everything perfectly. I'm on stage 2 and its my daily. 70 miles round trip to work and its great. I only drive manuals but this is the only exception being a DSG. It really shifts quickly especially tuned which I have also. It just doesn't make sense to switch to another car which is is why I bought a 2nd car. I purchased a E46 M3 for the rugged rear wheel drive and 6 speed. I do miss manual but going back and forth between cars and the M3 feels like a lot of work to drive and it still can't beat my R in race. The power, speed and comfort of the R is great. Can't be beat for the price. I got mine for $25k which i think was great with only 26K miles on it. Looking at what they are selling now in 2020 it looks like I can sell it for more. Anyways its a great car and it might be the car I will keep the longest. I might just have to keep it forever.
A co-worker of mine who bought a brand new GLI was PISSED and struggled with interior rattling.. took it to dealership several times nothing... he ended up going to some detailer... so alotta💰
Car and Driver once said about the MK7 in their top 10 of the year "everyone should own one of these in their lifetime." I took their advise. Never a regret. Btw...one of the best reviews here that I have seen on the MK7/7.5 - bueno!
I own a 2016 GTI S coupe w performance and lighting packages. I'm actually the second and fourth owner. The guy I bought it from (twice) is the first and third owner. We both loved the car enough to buy it twice. I've owned a lot of cars, but this is by far and away the highest quality vehicle I've ever owned. That includes several BMWs. It's so incredibly well thought out and engineered. No corners were cut anywhere. The doors are solid, the body is stiff as a rock, the steering is laser focused, the engine revs freely and smoothly, it's easy to work on, easy to clean and detail, plenty of headroom for all, and it has perfect seats and seating position. Plus with the rear seats down you can haul an enormous amount of crap. It's basically the perfect daily driver.
2019 Rabbit edition owner here. I feel like this absolutely nailed the essence of what a modern old-school GTI can be. It is a driver's car as much as one can be had out of a GTI with plaid cloth seats, limited slip, no sunroof. The only problem I have with it is rev hang on hard acceleration making smooth shifts difficult, and the anticipation of electrical problems that seem to plague every VW I've ever owned (4 now in 30 years with big gaps due to being upset with VW as a result).
I'm not a VW guy, but I really like the MK7. I think we'll look back on it in 20 years and appreciate what a beautifully balanced package it was. And looking at the MK8 interior, I think these will probably hold their value well for a German car.
@@busy2012 it’s reliable but don’t think for a second it’s cheap to maintain lol. Repairs can be costly depending on what it is especially the mk6 year with its tensioner issue. but your basic fluid changes and brakes etc nah not bad at all. I suggest get a mk7 the improved off the mk6 platform.
I have a 6-speed manual 2003 GTI VR6 that is now 18 years old. It still puts a smile on my face after all these years! It handles OK, but I can't imagine how much better current GTI's are, in terms of performance and handling.
I drive a 2019 Golf R as my daily. Love these cars, great on the very windy hilly Hong Kong roads. quick, handles great, easy to park and you can easily seat 4 adults.
@@paulrondeau2517 Love my '17 R, still smile everyday I get in it 3 years later. They're a blast in the winter to drive. I do love the feel of the GTI though.
Bought a 2017 GTI S 6 months ago. Planning on keeping the car for a few years so I put about $13k in mods into the car. I fell in love with it. Almost done with the build already. R400 conversion kit, is38 turbo, wavetrac lsd, and a million more. So far only good things to say about it.
Still loving my 2017 GTI Sport with manual. Had been looking for a manual Sportwagen when one of the dealers found the manual GTI and suggested a test. Decided that more umph in front made up for a bit less stowage in back. Though the many generations newer car lacks the crisp appearance of the last GTI I owned, a 1985 Mark II, twice the power, vastly improved engineering and build quality, and enhanced amenities make the newer car work as well for this retiree as that car did for a thirty-something in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
This review takes me back to the 2012 GTI manual I had until last year. Everything he said about pedal feel is correct too. When I upgraded my current 2014 Audi S4 manual, I found it more natural in stop & go because you can directly feel the clutch engagement. Funny thing was I had both cars for a short while, and when I'd drive the GTI I would speed shift unintentionally because the shifter and clutch were so much lighter.
I'm thankful for the MK7 Golf existing because it allowed for the Audi A3 (which I own) to become a tuner car with like 90% parts compatibility with the Golf. There is almost no wrong way to spec a Golf either. The EA888 engine is really nice, the Manual just works and the DSG transmission absolutely slaps.
I have a 2020 GTI SE Manual and love it. I don’t drive as much because I work more remote now. Every time I take out mein kleine GTI for a drive it’s still fun and exciting.. I just don’t get tired of it. The handling, acceleration, braking, brings ear to ear grins, it’s so much fun 😊. Back in college I had an ‘83 Rabbit GTI. I had so much fun with that MK 1. Now I’m 53 yrs old reliving the past but now in a refined MK 7.5 which keeps the character of the original GTI and brings new technology. So glad I made the choice to buy a GTI before the MK 8 arrived. Would still like to test drive a brand new MK 8 but the looks and interior are not the same.
Manual shifting is the best way to feel the road and the most fun by far. Learned to drive on my brothers Celica 5 spd back in 1974. Owned a 82 Accord hatchback, Golf and Neon, all manual and great cars. My 2016 basic GTI in silver cannot be driven slow. It possesses you to accelerate hard at traffic signals, take corners fast and get up to speed in a hurry. Everyone I take for a ride loves the way this car drives and feels. I love it! Owning this car makes you feel smart and young again.
I drive a 2017 7.5 GTI, German model, regular spec with 230 hp. I was issued a company car at the beginning of 2020, a regular Audi A4 Avant 2020 model year. But I decided to keep the GTI around, and boy, I always have the biggest smile on my face when I drive it. It’s just fast enough that it’s really a lot of fun but not that fast that you’re risking life and limb. Build quality also is excellent...it’s the best car I’ve ever driven, period!
I owned 5 GTIs before getting up to Porsches, and just got a GTI for my daughter. You absolutely cannot beat how much car you get for the price. The drive is top notch in class, and the interior is very well built. I love that they have the plaid seats again (since 2020) ...
I have a mk7.5 se with a manual so much fun to drive i live in Orange County and have to commute on the 405 daily and the light clutch is nice you don’t need a dsg if you sit in traffic often
Love my GTI. This old guy loves his DSG. Great that VW still offers a a stick when so many companies are dropping them. Not sure about the MK8, that all glass touchy feely cockpit really bother's me. Although I'm sure it will be a great drive. Thanks for the drive video.
Dear Mr. Farah, The addition of the paddle cam was truly fabulous. I would (as I'm sure would many others) really appreciate a camera on the rev gauge. I think that would really give us a peek not only at your rather excellent technique ... but also at some of the thinking that goes into it ... understanding things like when do you decide to downshift, what revs you just leave the motor hanging at between the corners (instead of upshifting to extend engine life) ... etc.
MK7.5 GTI owner chiming in. The car is an absolute blast to drive bone stock, with some bolt ons and a little bit of ethanol, you’ll have a little rocket on stock turbo! We all know the amazing performance of a hybrid turbo or is38 on the MK7👍🏼
The golf is one of my favorite cars of all time. Adding that to the fact that I own a MK7 Golf R DCT. The thing I like about the Golf is that VW has always treated it with an evolutionary approach rather than a revolutionary approach like most other manufacturers. The result, is that you can sit in any generation Golf and get a familiar feeling. Its like a great relationship that just gets better with time. 2 other cars that also produce the same kind of nostalgia are the Miata, and 911. You will also never mistake them for anything else at any distance. All three are also best in class for their intended purposes.
My 2018 GTI SE, DSG is hands down the most fun car to drive I’ve ever owned ! From the interior to the engine the cars set up very nicely , I’d recommend a GTI to anyone who wants the perfect daily little quick hatchback 🔥
I drive a used MK7 GTI SE with DSG as a daily alongside my 91 Civic track car (having an actual track car makes me enjoy the comfort and ease of use of the DSG everyday), and I genuinely believe it is the perfect daily driver. Lots of usable space, awesome to road trip. Great in the snow in the Midwest with winter tires, runs with expensive cars on back roads with summer tires. So far put on 30k+ miles with no issues and is a dream to drive everyday. Recently added Cobb DSG tune with an MAPerformance Stage1 engine tune, and it now punches way above its class in terms of performance. This combined with the luxury and its practicality, really can't justify replacing it with a more expensive car. It just does everything right.
Got my manual GTI back in 2015 and I must say that I wouldn't been happy with anything else as a daily. Even though I am not really up there on mileage (around 40,000 miles right now) this thing has truly held its own. after 5years now of ownership, I still get the same unique driving feel since day one. And yes have the same reservations described @10:18 and the lack of grip in 1st and 2nd, but honestly, these are the things that makes the GTI what it is. A prime example of a formula that simply... just works.
The clutch pedal feel can be drastically improved by removing the delay valve. It's an annoying job but only takes about 30 minutes if you know how to properly bleed the clutch.
Have been driving this GTI model for a month now coming from a 2017 GTI, and a 2014 before that...it has just gotten better and better and better. I love this car and know that it may be the last manual my wife and I purchase. I hope I can keep this car for quite a while, I’m really going to miss it when it’s time to move on.
I had a MKV GTI and removing the clutch delay valve did wonders for the feel. Unfortunately it didn't address a far deeper problem that would occasionally result in the clutch pedal sticking to the floor until you popped it back up with your toe under the pedal. It was either the slave cylinder or out-of-spec end-play of the output shaft. If it was the former, you had to drop the entire bell housing to get to it and you might as well replace the whole clutch while you're at it. If that wasn't it, and it was the output shaft? Replace the whole engine. I said no thanks and traded it and a little dough for a 135i. No clutch issues for the last few years I've had the 135!~
Unfortunately we don’t have great, twisty roads in South Florida. I drive a 19 GTI S with a DSG, (I’m 77), so stick shifting is history for me. But everything you said about the car, I totally agree with. It’s my senior factory hot rod. Great job, thanks, RickGTI 😎
I bought my GTI new in 2015 here in Germany. I love that car. Used it for trackdays for 4 years, it was really fun. I'm not about to sell it, hopefully many more years to come.
My buddy has a MK7 2015 GTI (DSG sadly) that is honestly impressive as crap. It is Stage 2 by IE, but even when it was stock it was SHOCKINGLY quick. I have a 2017 MK6.5 GLI and I have a hard time finding another vehicle I like to drive as much as this GLI. Interior wise, could be MASSIVELY improved upon BUT I like her just the way she is
Or the 2017 GTI Sport. Was only available in 2017 but came with pretty much everything you would want without most of the added weight that comes with the upper trim levels. Plus, it came with upgraded nogaro wheels that look really good.
The only way to go if you're a real driving enthusiast, is manual gearboxes - plus they are so fixable if after many miles they need attention. Autos do tend to be very complicated nowadays, with lots of electronics but people are getting lazier. Obviously if you commute and the traffics slow and congested an auto is very nice but for spirted driving like your video, manual shifting is sheer pleasure.
Bad news. VW says they will kill all manuals begining with 2025 models! I knew this would happen, so i bought a 2016 MK7. Very happy with my great car. Got the Stage one, upgraded shocks/struts, front and rear excellent sway bars, and vastly better clutch. GTI is a great chassis that can be upgraded to your hearts content.
I think the GTI is one of those cars that on a day to day bases has to be one of the best rides out there. Not too flashy or overly dramatic but the interior is one of the best as well as the fit and finish. I’ll take mine with the plaid seats thank you.
Pedal cam looks good, just need the tach cam for the full best motoring feel. Agreed on modern vw clutches, no feel at all and coupled with throttle by wire does really seperate you from the experience
GTI - the ultimate one-car solution! Mk7s are just so good too aren't they? Having had two Mk4 GTIs, now a Mk7 Alltrack manual, and my friend has a tuned Mk7 GTI manual; these vehicles have always served my needs (or my friends) while being enjoyable to use. I'm pretty hooked on a good VW Golf; what more do you need?
I'm on my 3rd manual GTI (MK4,5,7) and it's so much fun. I have an Audi S3 which is quite a bit quicker due to a bigger turbo, DSG and the latest Haldex AWD (never any wheel spin, just go) but I'm usually more excited about driving the GTI. There's just something about THE hot hatch, especially with a manual.
@Bryce Czirr currently have had my stage one tune for 12,000 miles. No slipping or anything and I am not kind to my car. I will need a stronger clutch when I go stage two though
Had stage 1 on a mk6 manual , never had any clutch issues even after 60,000km , maybe stage 2 would be risky . Now have a mk7 Clubsport manual 213kw on over boost , quick enough for an old bum , i have tried several DSG GTI and i must say magic on the fly , but could not live with that clunkyness and hesitation at slow speeds , had that with a TT with DSG i owned as a second car .
I have a stage 2 manual mk7 and I couldn't ever imagine dailying it with a stage 1 tune. You definitely want to upgrade the clutch if you can once you go stage 1 though.
The GTI is a really weird car for me. I liked it but it lacked feel for me at the same time. I also just drove a Mini right before it and the mini was a complete riot and I said I love it but I can't buy it. All I see are speeding tickets in my future. I'd like to revisit the GTI since I know it gets praise n all. However, I'll never forget that test drive in that mini. Tach right in front. Me halfway through third gear in a 45 zone going oh my god I'm Matt Farah LOL. This was a few years back. Keep up the good work Matt! I appreciate you
No. The extended warranty was up on the S4 and my intention was to get another but my son had a GTI and I kept finding that in town (where I do most of my driving) the GTI was just funner to drive in a urban setting. Dare I say sometimes more performance isn’t always better. I know, a strange concept 😜. For me, I found the GTI fits the bill. The mix of performance and value was just too hard for me to pass up. I also don’t care what people think so the brand VW (not being a premium luxury car) is less important to me. I’m not trying to impress anyone with my car at this point in my life.
After living with my 2016 gti I can say that this is one of the best cars you can get on a budget you can pick up a perfect older gti for about 16 or so thousand with low miles.
I have a MK4 Golf with a neuspeed supercharger. Owned the car since new 20+ years and has been super reliable. Drove the new MK4 Rabbit. You're review is spot on. It's a great car. I haven't driven many new cars but I do agree about the clutch feel and that's most new cars. Ps I like me some torque steer 😯
If you have a segment in which all competitors try to convince you that it's better than a Golf. Vw is doing alot of things right with it. Looking trim Matt! Glad to see you still at the morning drives.
I own almost this same car! Manual Autobahn MK7.5 GTI (mine is a Dark iron Blue tho). EVERYthing he says is true! Before I bought mine, I tested a VelosterN and a Type R and a Focus RS. They were all as fast or faster, but I asked myself which car Id rather be in on the daily. Which car I would enjoy just as much going slow as going fast. GTI hands down. I even tested a Golf R, but I feel like that one was better suited for a DCT driving experience. Make sure to flash tune it and take the time to set your custom driving characteristics. And get BETTER RUBBER (the default tires are not great)
I am a long time fan of the channel. Great to see that you enjoyed the GTI Matt. Europe also has the Polo GTI which is not available in the US. It is smaller and lighter but with a slightly detuned engine. It is perfect for twisty roads and comfortable for day to day. All the best to you and the gang.
The clutch pedal would be deal breaker for me. I need a stiffer pedal. I swapped to a single-mass flywheel and a slightly more aggressive than stock clutch in my Legacy GT and clutch pedal was perfect. A bit stiffer than stock, but not so heavy that the car was annoying to drive in traffic.
The GTI with an Ohlins Road & Track suspension, and an APR or similar tune, would be quite the ticket. No worse for DD, more fun, and it would cost less than the Golf R.
I traded in my '17 GTI SE 6MT this year on a '19 Alltrack SEL 6MT. With a tune, rear sway bay, and some better tires I think it's gonna give me just about the same handling and speed I had with the GTI - but with tons of space, ground clearance, and AWD. Later on I'm gonna go full IS38 turbo which will be good for about 350hp and a boatload of torque. At that point it'll basically be an all terrain Golf R wagon. Highly, highly recommend the Alltrack, especially if you're interested in modding a car.
I'd make the case for buying a Mk 7.5 over the Mk8 due to the more analog controls in the Mk 7.5 for the radio and climate systems. The user experience in the Mk 8 looks highly distracting and difficult to use. Also: I thought that VW pushed back the Mk 8 release to the 2022 model year with another round of 2021 Mk 7.5s. True? Edit: so great to have some TST to enjoy. Love experiencing the cars, the scenery and the commentary via video.
Bought a 1990 VW Corrado when I was a young man, waited 30 years to buy another VW (Why!!!) just recently bought a GTI SE DSG, added Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires and I feel like a new driver, driving is fun again! Amazing car, what the f--k was I doing with all those Lexus products and other BS. It's an incredible hatch!
The pedal feel is a product of the stock clutch. The ECS stage 2 and 3 clutches are perfect in traffic and make the clutch feel a bunch better if you can deal with the flywheel chatter, which I personally like.
I drive a manual Octavia VRS (a Mk7 Gti wagon). I've upgraded the rear sway bar and run some extra boost (and the necessary clutch upgrade to the SACHS performance). The car very nearly kills me by boring me to death but the clutch feel and predictability is much improved. The stock pedal feel is adequate at best, the take up point varies due to the restriction valve in the line. The plate itself has barely adequate clamping force and will slip a little on even stock power and aggressive shifting. Overall the clutch on the manual is probably the worst thing about the car. It's the only car I've ever driven where I would recommend the automatic. I say this as someone who has driven only manual cars for 25 years.
I stand by the idea that the GTI is one of the most fun commuters you can get.
It is, and not a bad family car either.
It is but the douchebags that drive it completely put me off of owning one.
@@IKhanNot you can find the douchebag subculture for any car.
@@IKhanNot cant be as bad as the subie community
Until something breaks...
I own a 2018 GTI and I recently put a Cobb Stage 1 tune on it - so it puts out about 275 hp. Since I bought it right when the outbreak started I got a deal - my car had 12,000 miles on it and all in with my tune, taxes and a set of TSW Bathurst wheels in gunmetal grey I am in it for around $24500. It is an amazing car - it is replacing my 2016 Civic commuter car and my 2003 Mazda Miata track car. My other car is a 2013 911 Carrera and I would say that the combination of those two cars is as close to automotive nirvana as I have experienced in my lifetime so far.
Fantastic set up sir! Keep the Miata :)
The idea 2-car garage; can’t do much better.
Add a Land Cruiser like I did to my 997.1 and MK7.1 SE PP DSG and you’ll really be in icon car heaven.
Get a better tune. The cobb ones r the worse
I dont like Porshe or VW but I have to admit those 2 companies do make amazing drivers cars with the amazing handling and power to weight..also random but the e46m3 and the focus RS are also ammmazing drivers cars..I know the 2 cars I mentioned are different and yearrrss apart but after all the cars I've driven and trust me it's many those cars stood out to me alot when it came to driver engagement...my dream car the Lexus RCF was a very nice car with good power but it felt so heavy and lazy at times and the cars you mentioned deff feel more responsive to driver inputs
The GTI and the Golf R are two of the best all around hatchbacks produced in this day and time. Excellent vehicles👌🏽
Christopher Munsey with plastic water pump housings 💦
Yes...they drive great...reliability and all the plastic engine components?? Not so much. Shame that reliability and resale still sucks lemons....
Ever heard of the Civic Type R?
Zach I like it but it looks to ricey for me :(
They are just a bit boring and overpriced. But they have a very good balance between sportiness and use ability. But the i30n and other comparable cars are just more exciting
The 911 of the Hot Hatches
Yes
For real I've had 2 mazdaspeeds, now a speed 6 and I'm genuinely thinking of just calling it a day and being comfy in a mk7
@@NinaMango789 Do it man. Modify it. Love it.
@@Ben-bg2eg 900 dollars for a cupholder. Literally. Na I'm good lol
@@c.b.4916 What?
Like some others said, the pedals cam is really appreciated (feels like these old Japanese drift videos!). I hope you will release more videos with this, setup!
Cheers o/
Suddenly Ayrton Senna driving an
NSX with loafers came to mind.
I've got a 19 Rabbit Manual and I've put about 20k on it. Had some heavy commuting for a while and it handles traffic wonderfully. It's the perfect balance as everyone says. Right amount of power to have fun with, but slow enough that you can run through the gears without going to jail. It's always had just the right amount of cargo space. If you can't have other cars, or need something a bit more reasonable it's the perfect choice.
just bought one too... cornflower blue rabbit manual. awesome car.
Its not worth 37k, For 37k you can get a muscle car that will shit on the gti
@Collidiscope most people dont live in the fucking mountains
@Collidiscope you can drive rwd cars with snow tires and traction control on. People use AWD, or 4x4 cars when there is lots of snow.
Chris723 you can pick up one without stupid tech options for 25k and less than 10k miles. I’m with you though, would never pay that kind of money for a GTI, nor a golf R.
Picked up my 2020 6mt gti this past march and tbh one of the best cars i've ever driven
Same been daily driving my 2017 GTI Sport Manual for 3 years been amazing. Have APR stage 1 on it too.
@@kjh4112 aaand that's why I've only owned salvage cars that I repair with my dad. New cars just aren't worth it imo
@@kjh4112 generally the used ones are holding decent value. I would never buy new of course. Picked up a 2017 GTI Sport 6MT for $17,600 with 37K miles in July and all similar cars are in the $20K+ range now in the North East area. For some reason, the average price has gone up in the past year...
how much $$
Ranshika Fernando Used car market has gotten a little crazy due to COVID
Almost 1 year in on my 2019 Autobahn manual. It is such a joy to commute everyday with it. It feels like pure luxury, and well thought out (unlike other manufacturers that slap stuff together). 6 year warranty too. Different class than Si and WRX.
I drive a used Mk7 Golf R, which I got after a used Mk7 GTI, after a used Mk5 GTI. All DSG, I tuned and modified them all, and the R is the one I just want to keep until I can get an F80 M3 Comp.
I can’t overstate how quick this thing is with a stage 1 tune. We’re talking high-3 0-60, low-12 quarter-mile.
What I had unending frustration with with the GTIs was grip at daily driving speeds. Do I use more full throttle than most people? Yes. But $950 on wider tiresthat lose their grip after one year, with other inexpensive traction mods too, was the only way to get some satisfaction from a tuned GTI.
A tuned Golf R can put down 400hp in first gear with average all-seasons, or hang the tail out if you turn the wheel sharply while doing that.
I’ve got 64k miles on mine now, and the only issue I have is rattling interior trim, and that’s possibly from the louder exhaust.
It’s got light and direct controls, snappy DCT upshifts, and for $30k all-in, including the tune, I can drive my kids to 60 repeatedly in 4 flat in a small, zippy little thing that doesn’t draw much attention.
I have had many cars and I agree with this.
I normally change cars every year or 2 but it doesn't look like I will get rid of my MK7 R. Its just does everything perfectly. I'm on stage 2 and its my daily. 70 miles round trip to work and its great. I only drive manuals but this is the only exception being a DSG. It really shifts quickly especially tuned which I have also. It just doesn't make sense to switch to another car which is is why I bought a 2nd car. I purchased a E46 M3 for the rugged rear wheel drive and 6 speed. I do miss manual but going back and forth between cars and the M3 feels like a lot of work to drive and it still can't beat my R in race. The power, speed and comfort of the R is great. Can't be beat for the price. I got mine for $25k which i think was great with only 26K miles on it. Looking at what they are selling now in 2020 it looks like I can sell it for more.
Anyways its a great car and it might be the car I will keep the longest. I might just have to keep it forever.
F80 M3 is a worse car than you have now. Your R sounds great
I have a Golf R as well no need for Anything else.Stage 1 is insane
Excellent summary! Suggestion!!! Turn “starting vibration reduction” setting to “off” using VCDS.
A co-worker of mine who bought a brand new GLI was PISSED and struggled with interior rattling.. took it to dealership several times nothing... he ended up going to some detailer... so alotta💰
Love the pedal camera, please do more of those!
When I was at the track 2 weeks ago, there was a 70 year old man having a blast in one of these.
He probably had the original Mk1 GTI in 1977!
More "normal" cars please! Love the content, Matt. Good stuff as always
I'm 20k miles into my '18 Golf R manual, stage 1 Unitronic, Sachs clutch and it's just the perfect car. Nothing else to say, just perfect.
Car and Driver once said about the MK7 in their top 10 of the year "everyone should own one of these in their lifetime." I took their advise. Never a regret.
Btw...one of the best reviews here that I have seen on the MK7/7.5 - bueno!
I owned a manual MK4 golf and it was a blast to drive I can’t imagine the GTI. I remember that car very fondly
I own a 2016 GTI S coupe w performance and lighting packages. I'm actually the second and fourth owner. The guy I bought it from (twice) is the first and third owner. We both loved the car enough to buy it twice.
I've owned a lot of cars, but this is by far and away the highest quality vehicle I've ever owned. That includes several BMWs. It's so incredibly well thought out and engineered. No corners were cut anywhere. The doors are solid, the body is stiff as a rock, the steering is laser focused, the engine revs freely and smoothly, it's easy to work on, easy to clean and detail, plenty of headroom for all, and it has perfect seats and seating position. Plus with the rear seats down you can haul an enormous amount of crap. It's basically the perfect daily driver.
2019 Rabbit edition owner here. I feel like this absolutely nailed the essence of what a modern old-school GTI can be. It is a driver's car as much as one can be had out of a GTI with plaid cloth seats, limited slip, no sunroof. The only problem I have with it is rev hang on hard acceleration making smooth shifts difficult, and the anticipation of electrical problems that seem to plague every VW I've ever owned (4 now in 30 years with big gaps due to being upset with VW as a result).
Time for another gap!
I'm not a VW guy, but I really like the MK7. I think we'll look back on it in 20 years and appreciate what a beautifully balanced package it was. And looking at the MK8 interior, I think these will probably hold their value well for a German car.
A 2010 GTI has been my daily driver for 9 years. 183k miles in and still going strong!
How much do you pay in maintenance annually?
(is it a good car for a college student)
@@busy2012 it’s reliable but don’t think for a second it’s cheap to maintain lol. Repairs can be costly depending on what it is especially the mk6 year with its tensioner issue. but your basic fluid changes and brakes etc nah not bad at all. I suggest get a mk7 the improved off the mk6 platform.
@@STLLTNDR
Not cheap to maintain, but how much should I expect to pay?
(This is about a mk5 gti btw, mk6 is too fugly)
90K and counting on my 2016 GTI. APR tuned stage 1 with upgraded clutch for the manual and the thing is a dream. Its been very reliable for me
I have a 6-speed manual 2003 GTI VR6 that is now 18 years old. It still puts a smile on my face after all these years! It handles OK, but I can't imagine how much better current GTI's are, in terms of performance and handling.
I drive a 2019 Golf R as my daily. Love these cars, great on the very windy hilly Hong Kong roads. quick, handles great, easy to park and you can easily seat 4 adults.
Me too! Absolutely love the car, and hands down THE BEST daily driver for grabbing groceries and ripping through twisties!
@@paulrondeau2517 Love my '17 R, still smile everyday I get in it 3 years later. They're a blast in the winter to drive. I do love the feel of the GTI though.
Just curious @Lagerace - what do you like about the GTI over the R?
@@paulrondeau2517 I like how nimble it feels, especially in the manual. The aesthetics seem better interior wise.
Bought a 2017 GTI S 6 months ago. Planning on keeping the car for a few years so I put about $13k in mods into the car. I fell in love with it. Almost done with the build already. R400 conversion kit, is38 turbo, wavetrac lsd, and a million more. So far only good things to say about it.
I got my GTI manual only last week. Absolutely love it, such a comfortable car for a daily drive but yet got the perfect about of power
Just got my 2016 manual one exactly like the video it’s amazing!
Still loving my 2017 GTI Sport with manual. Had been looking for a manual Sportwagen when one of the dealers found the manual GTI and suggested a test. Decided that more umph in front made up for a bit less stowage in back. Though the many generations newer car lacks the crisp appearance of the last GTI I owned, a 1985 Mark II, twice the power, vastly improved engineering and build quality, and enhanced amenities make the newer car work as well for this retiree as that car did for a thirty-something in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
This review takes me back to the 2012 GTI manual I had until last year. Everything he said about pedal feel is correct too. When I upgraded my current 2014 Audi S4 manual, I found it more natural in stop & go because you can directly feel the clutch engagement. Funny thing was I had both cars for a short while, and when I'd drive the GTI I would speed shift unintentionally because the shifter and clutch were so much lighter.
Thanks for finally doing this, Huge GTI enthusiast here
I'm thankful for the MK7 Golf existing because it allowed for the Audi A3 (which I own) to become a tuner car with like 90% parts compatibility with the Golf.
There is almost no wrong way to spec a Golf either. The EA888 engine is really nice, the Manual just works and the DSG transmission absolutely slaps.
I have a 2020 GTI SE Manual and love it. I don’t drive as much because I work more remote now. Every time I take out mein kleine GTI for a drive it’s still fun and exciting.. I just don’t get tired of it. The handling, acceleration, braking, brings ear to ear grins, it’s so much fun 😊. Back in college I had an ‘83 Rabbit GTI. I had so much fun with that MK 1. Now I’m 53 yrs old reliving the past but now in a refined MK 7.5 which keeps the character of the original GTI and brings new technology. So glad I made the choice to buy a GTI before the MK 8 arrived. Would still like to test drive a brand new MK 8 but the looks and interior are not the same.
Manual shifting is the best way to feel the road and the most fun by far. Learned to drive on my brothers Celica 5 spd back in 1974. Owned a 82 Accord hatchback, Golf and Neon, all manual and great cars. My 2016 basic GTI in silver cannot be driven slow. It possesses you to accelerate hard at traffic signals, take corners fast and get up to speed in a hurry. Everyone I take for a ride loves the way this car drives and feels. I love it! Owning this car makes you feel smart and young again.
I drive a 2017 7.5 GTI, German model, regular spec with 230 hp. I was issued a company car at the beginning of 2020, a regular Audi A4 Avant 2020 model year. But I decided to keep the GTI around, and boy, I always have the biggest smile on my face when I drive it. It’s just fast enough that it’s really a lot of fun but not that fast that you’re risking life and limb. Build quality also is excellent...it’s the best car I’ve ever driven, period!
Paid under 25k for my 2019 GTI in Dec from the dealer. I got the APR Plus Tune for 1k and it brings the beast alive.
I owned 5 GTIs before getting up to Porsches, and just got a GTI for my daughter. You absolutely cannot beat how much car you get for the price. The drive is top notch in class, and the interior is very well built. I love that they have the plaid seats again (since 2020) ...
They've had the plaid seats in the S trim all the way through.
I have a mk7.5 se with a manual so much fun to drive i live in Orange County and have to commute on the 405 daily and the light clutch is nice you don’t need a dsg if you sit in traffic often
Love my GTI. This old guy loves his DSG. Great that VW still offers a a stick when so many companies are dropping them. Not sure about the MK8, that all glass touchy feely cockpit really bother's me. Although I'm sure it will be a great drive. Thanks for the drive video.
How you present ads has improved a ton.
Dear Mr. Farah, The addition of the paddle cam was truly fabulous. I would (as I'm sure would many others) really appreciate a camera on the rev gauge. I think that would really give us a peek not only at your rather excellent technique ... but also at some of the thinking that goes into it ... understanding things like when do you decide to downshift, what revs you just leave the motor hanging at between the corners (instead of upshifting to extend engine life) ... etc.
Welcome back, again
MK7.5 GTI owner chiming in. The car is an absolute blast to drive bone stock, with some bolt ons and a little bit of ethanol, you’ll have a little rocket on stock turbo! We all know the amazing performance of a hybrid turbo or is38 on the MK7👍🏼
Gandalf721 Stage 2 FBO with E30. As good as it gets on stock turbo and it’s a blast
The golf is one of my favorite cars of all time. Adding that to the fact that I own a MK7 Golf R DCT. The thing I like about the Golf is that VW has always treated it with an evolutionary approach rather than a revolutionary approach like most other manufacturers. The result, is that you can sit in any generation Golf and get a familiar feeling. Its like a great relationship that just gets better with time. 2 other cars that also produce the same kind of nostalgia are the Miata, and 911. You will also never mistake them for anything else at any distance. All three are also best in class for their intended purposes.
My 2018 GTI SE, DSG is hands down the most fun car to drive I’ve ever owned ! From the interior to the engine the cars set up very nicely , I’d recommend a GTI to anyone who wants the perfect daily little quick hatchback 🔥
I drive a used MK7 GTI SE with DSG as a daily alongside my 91 Civic track car (having an actual track car makes me enjoy the comfort and ease of use of the DSG everyday), and I genuinely believe it is the perfect daily driver. Lots of usable space, awesome to road trip. Great in the snow in the Midwest with winter tires, runs with expensive cars on back roads with summer tires. So far put on 30k+ miles with no issues and is a dream to drive everyday.
Recently added Cobb DSG tune with an MAPerformance Stage1 engine tune, and it now punches way above its class in terms of performance. This combined with the luxury and its practicality, really can't justify replacing it with a more expensive car. It just does everything right.
Got my manual GTI back in 2015 and I must say that I wouldn't been happy with anything else as a daily. Even though I am not really up there on mileage (around 40,000 miles right now) this thing has truly held its own. after 5years now of ownership, I still get the same unique driving feel since day one. And yes have the same reservations described @10:18 and the lack of grip in 1st and 2nd, but honestly, these are the things that makes the GTI what it is. A prime example of a formula that simply... just works.
Feeling the pedal box cam in a big way. It def adds value, even on autos to further understand your evaluation of throttle mapping and brake response.
A car so nice, it's uploaded twice!
I just bought a 2020 GTI Autobahn 6MT in Pure White.
I wanted to go back to a standard. DSG is nice but I do miss rowing my own gears.
The clutch pedal feel can be drastically improved by removing the delay valve. It's an annoying job but only takes about 30 minutes if you know how to properly bleed the clutch.
I have 191,000 miles on my mk6 gti and it’s never skipped a beat. This car is very receptive to mods as well. it’s an amazing all around car
Have been driving this GTI model for a month now coming from a 2017 GTI, and a 2014 before that...it has just gotten better and better and better. I love this car and know that it may be the last manual my wife and I purchase. I hope I can keep this car for quite a while, I’m really going to miss it when it’s time to move on.
Love the pedal cam!
Had my Mk6 manual since new. Never going to sell it. The EA888 is one of the all time great turbo engines.
I had a MKV GTI and removing the clutch delay valve did wonders for the feel. Unfortunately it didn't address a far deeper problem that would occasionally result in the clutch pedal sticking to the floor until you popped it back up with your toe under the pedal. It was either the slave cylinder or out-of-spec end-play of the output shaft. If it was the former, you had to drop the entire bell housing to get to it and you might as well replace the whole clutch while you're at it. If that wasn't it, and it was the output shaft? Replace the whole engine. I said no thanks and traded it and a little dough for a 135i. No clutch issues for the last few years I've had the 135!~
Unfortunately we don’t have great, twisty roads in South Florida. I drive a 19 GTI S with a DSG, (I’m 77), so stick shifting is history for me. But everything you said about the car, I totally agree with. It’s my senior factory hot rod. Great job, thanks, RickGTI 😎
I bought my GTI new in 2015 here in Germany. I love that car. Used it for trackdays for 4 years, it was really fun. I'm not about to sell it, hopefully many more years to come.
This car drives for you when needed, and let’s you work when you want to actually work 🙌🏾
I own a 19 MK7.5 Manual GTI and it’s nice to hear a review of your own car. Matt said basically everything I feel about the car.
Add a GIAC tune, a bigger rear sway bar, and some Michelin PS 4S’s and you’re good to go with a great all around car!
My buddy has a MK7 2015 GTI (DSG sadly) that is honestly impressive as crap. It is Stage 2 by IE, but even when it was stock it was SHOCKINGLY quick. I have a 2017 MK6.5 GLI and I have a hard time finding another vehicle I like to drive as much as this GLI. Interior wise, could be MASSIVELY improved upon BUT I like her just the way she is
GTI SE with the experience package is a good compromise to the Autobahn trim.
Or the 2017 GTI Sport. Was only available in 2017 but came with pretty much everything you would want without most of the added weight that comes with the upper trim levels. Plus, it came with upgraded nogaro wheels that look really good.
SE>Autobahn any and everyday of the week. My first car was a Mk7 and now own a Mk7.5. Both SE's.
@@coreytelfer4566 Yep the 2017 Sport manual was the one I got. It was $28K. The perfect package.
@@JFinns I love mine as well. Have you modded yours? Mine is stage 2 full bolt on and I absolutely love it.
@@coreytelfer4566 Yea have APR stage 1, no other mods. Will need a stronger clutch to go stage 2. Might do both of those soon will look into it.
The only way to go if you're a real driving enthusiast, is manual gearboxes - plus they are so fixable if after many miles they need attention. Autos do tend to be very complicated nowadays, with lots of electronics but people are getting lazier. Obviously if you commute and the traffics slow and congested an auto is very nice but for spirted driving like your video, manual shifting is sheer pleasure.
Bad news. VW says they will kill all manuals begining with 2025 models!
I knew this would happen, so i bought a 2016 MK7. Very happy with my great car.
Got the Stage one, upgraded shocks/struts, front and rear excellent sway bars, and vastly better clutch. GTI is a great chassis that can be upgraded to your hearts content.
I think the GTI is one of those cars that on a day to day bases has to be one of the best rides out there. Not too flashy or overly dramatic but the interior is one of the best as well as the fit and finish. I’ll take mine with the plaid seats thank you.
Pedal cam looks good, just need the tach cam for the full best motoring feel. Agreed on modern vw clutches, no feel at all and coupled with throttle by wire does really seperate you from the experience
am i reliving this morning? didn't i watch this already? LOL
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@@x7wolverines7x i watched the first minute
they had issues with their upload this morning
It wasn’t available on mobile
Only thing I would want more, is the sport wagon/alltrack for the extra truck room for dogs or my mountain bike etc
GTI - the ultimate one-car solution! Mk7s are just so good too aren't they? Having had two Mk4 GTIs, now a Mk7 Alltrack manual, and my friend has a tuned Mk7 GTI manual; these vehicles have always served my needs (or my friends) while being enjoyable to use. I'm pretty hooked on a good VW Golf; what more do you need?
I'm on my 3rd manual GTI (MK4,5,7) and it's so much fun. I have an Audi S3 which is quite a bit quicker due to a bigger turbo, DSG and the latest Haldex AWD (never any wheel spin, just go) but I'm usually more excited about driving the GTI. There's just something about THE hot hatch, especially with a manual.
GTI with stage 1 is one of the best daily's out there
@Bryce Czirr I have manual with unitronic stage 1, I've driven a tuned dsg gti but it's not as fun as shifting your own gears. DSG is faster though.
@Bryce Czirr currently have had my stage one tune for 12,000 miles. No slipping or anything and I am not kind to my car. I will need a stronger clutch when I go stage two though
Had stage 1 on a mk6 manual , never had any clutch issues even after 60,000km , maybe stage 2 would be risky .
Now have a mk7 Clubsport manual 213kw on over boost , quick enough for an old bum , i have tried several DSG GTI and i must say magic on the fly , but could not live with that clunkyness and hesitation at slow speeds , had that with a TT with DSG i owned as a second car .
I have a stage 2 manual mk7 and I couldn't ever imagine dailying it with a stage 1 tune. You definitely want to upgrade the clutch if you can once you go stage 1 though.
Have a 7.5 Golf 4 and couldn’t be happier. Manual of course!
The GTI is a really weird car for me. I liked it but it lacked feel for me at the same time. I also just drove a Mini right before it and the mini was a complete riot and I said I love it but I can't buy it. All I see are speeding tickets in my future.
I'd like to revisit the GTI since I know it gets praise n all. However, I'll never forget that test drive in that mini. Tach right in front. Me halfway through third gear in a 45 zone going oh my god I'm Matt Farah LOL. This was a few years back.
Keep up the good work Matt! I appreciate you
@@Gandalf721 another reason I didn't buy it. but damn was it fun
I sold my S4 in 2018 and got a GTI and I don’t regret it one bit.
Bc of Audi understeer?
No. The extended warranty was up on the S4 and my intention was to get another but my son had a GTI and I kept finding that in town (where I do most of my driving) the GTI was just funner to drive in a urban setting. Dare I say sometimes more performance isn’t always better. I know, a strange concept 😜. For me, I found the GTI fits the bill. The mix of performance and value was just too hard for me to pass up. I also don’t care what people think so the brand VW (not being a premium luxury car) is less important to me. I’m not trying to impress anyone with my car at this point in my life.
As someone who's going to be learning manual in the not too distant future, I loved the pedal cam! That should be part of a review every now and then.
I just bought a manual mk6 gti last week. It needs some TLC but I love the car
After living with my 2016 gti I can say that this is one of the best cars you can get on a budget you can pick up a perfect older gti for about 16 or so thousand with low miles.
Love my '17 GTI 6 speed. I don't see a need for anything else. Maybe a Golf R or R32... or a scirocco...
Golf R next for sure! With all the talk of the next R being hybrid or whatever, let’s see how it ended.
I have a MK4 Golf with a neuspeed supercharger. Owned the car since new 20+ years and has been super reliable. Drove the new MK4 Rabbit. You're review is spot on. It's a great car. I haven't driven many new cars but I do agree about the clutch feel and that's most new cars. Ps I like me some torque steer 😯
You may not like VW's or Golfs, but theres a reason why they have been the hatchback benchmark for like 35 years.
Proud owner of a Mk7.5 Gti, previous Mk7 owner. Gti FTW!
Thanks for all the great content, Matt. The pedal box cam was pretty nice! I liked it a lot. Have a great week.
If you have a segment in which all competitors try to convince you that it's better than a Golf. Vw is doing alot of things right with it. Looking trim Matt! Glad to see you still at the morning drives.
I own almost this same car! Manual Autobahn MK7.5 GTI (mine is a Dark iron Blue tho). EVERYthing he says is true! Before I bought mine, I tested a VelosterN and a Type R and a Focus RS. They were all as fast or faster, but I asked myself which car Id rather be in on the daily. Which car I would enjoy just as much going slow as going fast.
GTI hands down. I even tested a Golf R, but I feel like that one was better suited for a DCT driving experience.
Make sure to flash tune it and take the time to set your custom driving characteristics. And get BETTER RUBBER (the default tires are not great)
I am a long time fan of the channel. Great to see that you enjoyed the GTI Matt. Europe also has the Polo GTI which is not available in the US. It is smaller and lighter but with a slightly detuned engine. It is perfect for twisty roads and comfortable for day to day. All the best to you and the gang.
you would like the fiesta st one takes if you haven't seen em yet
I have a base model mk7 gti, love it to bits, hate the shifter though lol
Love that little dig at the gearing on Cayman's lol
The clutch pedal would be deal breaker for me. I need a stiffer pedal. I swapped to a single-mass flywheel and a slightly more aggressive than stock clutch in my Legacy GT and clutch pedal was perfect. A bit stiffer than stock, but not so heavy that the car was annoying to drive in traffic.
I’m picking up my 2017 GTI mk7.5 in the 6 speed manual today. Can’t wait!
My daily driver. Love it.
Get 'em now boys, the Mk8 is a dog with fleas.
The GTI with an Ohlins Road & Track suspension, and an APR or similar tune, would be quite the ticket. No worse for DD, more fun, and it would cost less than the Golf R.
It's a great Hot Hatch for those over 30 and for less than $35k
I traded in my '17 GTI SE 6MT this year on a '19 Alltrack SEL 6MT. With a tune, rear sway bay, and some better tires I think it's gonna give me just about the same handling and speed I had with the GTI - but with tons of space, ground clearance, and AWD. Later on I'm gonna go full IS38 turbo which will be good for about 350hp and a boatload of torque. At that point it'll basically be an all terrain Golf R wagon. Highly, highly recommend the Alltrack, especially if you're interested in modding a car.
I'd make the case for buying a Mk 7.5 over the Mk8 due to the more analog controls in the Mk 7.5 for the radio and climate systems. The user experience in the Mk 8 looks highly distracting and difficult to use. Also: I thought that VW pushed back the Mk 8 release to the 2022 model year with another round of 2021 Mk 7.5s. True?
Edit: so great to have some TST to enjoy. Love experiencing the cars, the scenery and the commentary via video.
My understanding is the 2021 GTI will be another Mk 7.5, all the better, though.
@@DanUtley I'm game for an improved GTI, but truly not keen on the mostly screen controls I've seen demo'd in various Mk 8 reviews.
@@DanUtley oh, Sorry, i mis-read your comment. Yeah, 7.5 for 2021.
Bought a 1990 VW Corrado when I was a young man, waited 30 years to buy another VW (Why!!!) just recently bought a GTI SE DSG, added Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tires and I feel like a new driver, driving is fun again! Amazing car, what the f--k was I doing with all those Lexus products and other BS. It's an incredible hatch!
Google 'How to: Make a mk7 6MT Suck Less' for excellent guide on making the MK7 clutch and shifter what they should be.
The pedal feel is a product of the stock clutch. The ECS stage 2 and 3 clutches are perfect in traffic and make the clutch feel a bunch better if you can deal with the flywheel chatter, which I personally like.
I drive a manual Octavia VRS (a Mk7 Gti wagon). I've upgraded the rear sway bar and run some extra boost (and the necessary clutch upgrade to the SACHS performance). The car very nearly kills me by boring me to death but the clutch feel and predictability is much improved.
The stock pedal feel is adequate at best, the take up point varies due to the restriction valve in the line. The plate itself has barely adequate clamping force and will slip a little on even stock power and aggressive shifting. Overall the clutch on the manual is probably the worst thing about the car. It's the only car I've ever driven where I would recommend the automatic. I say this as someone who has driven only manual cars for 25 years.
Also I found dealers are willing to discount GTI's. No luck with the Golf R however. I was able channel Ed Bolian and got 4k off list.
Im watching it for a second time now, don’t mind me a another great one take !
2015 Autobahn PP DSG
APR stage1
H&R Sport Lowering Springs
Borla Type-S Catback
Michelin PS4S’s
I look forward to adding
sway bars (front and rear)
A manual GTI as a daily and a Porsche 911 as a weekend car.