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So, I'm sure you have seen a lot of videos talking about "the glory days of gaming" and how "video games suck these days". This video isn't like that. This one is a deep dive into the REAL reasons why games aren't fun anymore and how to have fun in gaming again.
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On this channel, I like to cover games that have failed, games that have died, nostalgic stuff, and games that are awesome. In today's video we talk about why games aren't fun anymore.
do you like the new animated avatar with different poses compared to the pixelated one that I just had zooming in and out in the past? let me know ⬇️
Personally I prefer the pixel one but you do you (:
no
bring back the glasses but besides that its a great improvement
i like the old one
New one is great and looks a lot more like you, people will always hate change so do what makes you happy
A very zoomer like take. It’s not just on us, games have declined in quality, innovation and it’s over saturated with a lot of the same. I have to dig and create excel sheets just to keep track of the games that actually try to innovate
I think thats true of the triple AAA space but looking at indie games or just games of different genres besides FPS and more marketable things like that theres a lot going on thats new and exciting
@@relarin952 indie games are good nintendo switch is good
Yeah exactly the entire entertainment industry is on a big decline for like a decade now. Its not us its them haha.
@@relarin952 Triple triple A. AAA^3. AAA AAA AAA.
My excel spreadsheet still needs to get caught up on all the new and/or free games I have now🤣
Great video but I feel its missing a point, people are getting older and we want to chase that same nostalgia but AAA games have changed so much in the last decade to monetize the consumer as much as possible ,when there was no battle passes and freedom to unlock at the pace you wanted to, I feel games have gotten better but are so lacking what made the games great before was player choice and freedom to play anyway you wanted, my rule of thumb is if a multiplayer game doesn't have bots or custom games some features where it probably needs it ,it fails to capture what some great moments were missing, games I recommend honestly anything coop is still so much fun,strategy games are sick seriously try inscription,slay the spire and darkest dungeon
Yeah, video is completely wrong. I still enjoy many games when theyre good - the thing is, the industry HAS changed, games ARE Worse now. I dont just hate on Everything like hes trying to imply here. i hate on stuff that SUCKS. i hated all games nowadays except for a few exceptions ive actually enjoyed. when theres good stuff i aknowledge it n like it but 99% of stuff out there right now is just GARBAGE. and it didnt use to be like that. even UBISOFT used to be the big revolutionary legendary studio AND LOOK WHAT THEYVE TURNED INTO NOW!!!! video COMPLETELY misses the plot of the topic and tries to spin this into some very unintelligent and honestly Pretentious "youre the problem!" non-sense. No. No Im not the problem. I didnt tell these devs to put out garbage. I didnt tell Ubisoft to stop being cool. Didnt tell EA to turn into the most monstrous studio there is. I didnt tell Blizzard to add a anti-consumer battle pass into Overwatch 2. The industry is doing all of that on their own. With only few exceptions like... Elden Ring or Life is Strange.. two recent games I enjoyed and give full credit for being aweosme and being "just like back then!" cuz its amazing games.
hey! your a hollow knight fan? i see ur pfp, ONE OF US
Games with bots in multiplayer are some of the most fun experiences ever, but sadly a lot of developers do not program them to the extent of what we want to. It's like programming the bots in CoD to shoot and kill, but not use kill streaks, field upgrades, tactics, or capture an objective
CO OP games honestly just hit different. I agree with you though the landscape has also made it harder to relive those memories. I think that's why it's importsnt to create new ones. Also Darkest Dungeon is the best, most terrifying game ever😂😂
@@DaggerPrince idk Ubisoft's Fenix Rising felt like so much of a breath of fresh air to me
It's a dumb take to say that the only thing important in videogames is the challenge, Animal Crossing, STardew Valley and Alba: A wildlife adventure are perfect examples of that, fun or enjoyiment isn't just about getting adrenaline
His title is just worded that way so that the people it applies to feel like he really gets them. Like, 'whoa, that's me!'
'Game' is just a blanket term for any interactive medium these days. You can have anything from a multimedia narrative to a simplistic and challenging arcade game, so of course how enjoyment is supposed to be derived from them varies equally wildly. Even hardcore pornographic visual novels are games, and the only real interactivity there is reading.
This is also true for music and storytelling. If people just had the attention span to enjoy some ups and downs, then perhaps music and stories wouldn't have gotten so childishly action-packed.
I think it's less about difficulty and more about how optimally you are trying to complete it. As a kid, you just play however, but when you're an adult, your brain naturally makes strategies better, and when you're playing more optimally and in a certain way, it is less flexible and "fun" with you having less options essentially, because your brain writes off what might be more fun as "wrong".
@@xlmtap1192 its not about action its about intellectual stimulation through challenge
@@Jabroni_14I was mostly talking about those two art forms there. Video games are still not nearly as much of a joke as those have become. But still, needing constant challenge in order to enjoy a game is the same type of bad as needing constant action in order to enjoy a story.
I think there is a very distinct greed in the industry that wasn't there before and it definitely soils modern AAA titles. But indie games where they are developed by small teams or single people without corporate greed and investor demands, definitely have a higher quality (for what they are) on release and over the lifetime of the game
Single player games was the source of creativity, until CSGO and Battle royal games destroyed the gaming industry with their shiity ingame items
I think the companies the big ones are super woke and are out of touch with what everyone wants
The industry is definitely different. I partially agree with this video only in so far as trying new things is good, but I don't for a second believe that most of the people that complain about "gaming" being boring are those who are just stuck playing twenty of the exact same first-person shooters, or only play FIFA and nothing else. The industry has changed and for the worst. Longer development times and much less innovation than ever before in the AAA space. Even the indie scene is mostly "metroidvania", "rogue lite/like", "souls like" and "card battlers" anymore too now. I think the last truly good gen as far as innovation goes would be gen 7 (2005 - 2014).
Too many AAA games play just like every other AAA game. Pick any "Sony" exclusive and they will all share very similar core mechanics. All of the Assassin's Creeds are basically the same as are GTA/Red Dead. All they really do anymore is push graphics, not new gameplay. Oh, and remember how PC games for a while used to be released really well optimized and were almost always better than the console versions? Those crappy outliers like Arkham Knight are now quickly becoming the norm. Buggy, unfinished PC releases that never get fixed even with multiple patches.
In my case, I think it's the shift towards aesthetics & presentation over game play & action. I still enjoy games like the souls series & Dragons dogma, but find it difficult to keep up with the newer, more "cinematic" games. I think a mini-renaissance in the video game industry within which the games industry takes a few steps back to the late 2000s/early 2010s would help re-kindle burned out flames a great deal.
COD is big example since it has really good presentation but level design just stucked in cod4~mw2 era
Why do you think newer games don't hook you as much?
@@relarin952 like is said, it's the over emphasis on cinematics & graphics stemming from this obsession of making it all look too "real" that takes away from actual gameplay content in the end, which is where the "fun" comes from. A gem I found amidst the pile recently was Dragons Dogma; which I've enjoyed to no end honestly, though it's not that big on graphics & the like. Another example of games that I still enjoy are the "warrior games" series (Dynasty warriors, samurai warriors & warriors Orochi) which I've always found fun & still do. In short, I think I like more gameplay in my video games than cinematography.
"Re-kindle"?
Is that a pun?
@@victoroliveira3577 That's for you to decide 😉😁
I think the case is: Why AAA games aren't fun anymore.
Even then that's still just a pretty generalized case imo. I feel like if you can't like even a single AAA game out there, it's more of a personal problem than anything.
AAA games aren't just CoD or Madden or whatever. Doom, Smash Bros, Elden Ring, Forza, Pokemon, Kingdom Hearts, Zelda, Resident Evil, the list goes on. On top of AA games or indie titles, which even these days are more than just RPG Maker games or 8 bit platformers. If someone can't find anything to enjoy out of any of that then maybe that person needs to stop and find another hobby.
@@moonpresence9707 exactly. Sometimes a break and trying out new things can help with this burnout. I know it did for me.
It's the entire Industry imo any way you slice It things have gone so far downhill.
@@fawkkyutuu8851 lmao sure dude, if your view of the industry is just a few franchises you stick onto like a housewife with stockholm syndrome because you played them when you were a kid and your brain was still developing
Not completely true, unbias statement
When you talked about watching other people play games you used to enjoy way more, I felt that, I watched my friend play and finish Half-Life 2 for the first time, and seeing them learn the ins and outs of the game like I did a long time ago made me really happy
Half-life and half-life 2 are both Amazing games Along with doom quake wolfenstein and unreal tournament imo
Stuff like this gets me excited to play Half Life for the first time😂
I agree that the notifications are definitely something that takes us out of our hobbies. School and work notifications and emails used to come through all the time and I slowly went from having respected alone time to constantly wondering if there's something I have to do or if I will just die.
Something I've been doing recently, is that every year I try to find a new videogame franchise to get into. Even when I assume I will dislike them.
In 2019 I never thought I would get even halfway through a Souls game. But now in 2022 I have beaten every Soulsborne game multiple times and thier DLCs.
In 2020 I thought Yakuza was just "GTA in Japan." But now I have finished every game including Judgement and it's now my 2nd favorite game franchise of all time.
I used to hate grinding and turn based combat, but now Final Fantasy IX is in my top 5 favorite games of all time.
Im currently playing through Persona 5 and its been a blast so far!
Thats freaking awesome man. Might try that aswell. Glad you having a blast
Thats an awesome idea! I do something similar with indie games where i just try to find something really wacky and go for it at least a couple months at a time😂
This video doesn't really apply to me because I already went through this process. With Dark Souls. I went through the process of thinking that games just aren't really that great anymore but it turns out I just needed something new, something to explore that I have not explored before, and not just levels or worlds, but mechanics and narratives and characters. Turns out games weren't getting boring, I just got used to most of the things they offered. The more recent game that really got me to love games again was actually Animal Crossing NH. I had never played an Animal Crossing game before and it was completely new and refreshing.
These days I just play less but I also am more varied. I listen to books, I watch shows, and overall I just engage with media in more ways than I did before. I still play games, but just less so. Short well designed experiences are way better than games that can just go on and on like online shooters and whatnot.
Ye. It's the same with Splatoon 3 for me. I do have Splatoon 1 for the Wii U, but never got into it there. Splatoon 3 with all of its extra polish and content got me hooked, easily one of the most solid third person shooters out there. Got something for everyone: Single player campaign, Co-Op and PvP
Another good one is Disco Elysium. That game is more like a interactive book that is also a RPG.
Hypnospace Outlaw is also a decent hidden gem.
For me it was simulation games such as Ats and ets2, farming sim 2022 and beamng.
Otherwise I saw this decline in Wow. Everybody have children our age now and have careers etc. Traveling and doing other stuff than just working. Sure you can play after work. But the amount of hours isn't there and u get more tired easily. Before it was after school and nothing else. Now you have to many things to do. Bills, work, family, traveling, fixing car, house etc...
And the older we get we want different and new stuff. Gaming doesn't become so fun in the same way. U feel more satisfied with a good cutted lawn and making BBQ than gaming.
A TF2 player named Bing Soy is a perfect example of challenging yourself to make games feel more fun again.
Bing Soy
Bing Soy
Bing Soy
What happened to the forza video?
0:48 you just summrmarized the problem in 4 words, take a break from games every once in a while
It really hits different when you come back
I 100% agree with this, I would typically stick to RPGs and survival games like Fallout, Skyrim, Resident Evil etc. however, Cult of the Lamb came out and I never really dabbled into rouge-likes but this one seemed really unique and fun to play. So I bought it and oh man it was amazing to game again! I was hooked on that game for a solid two weeks just building up my cult and beating it on the hardest difficulty.
Play Hades then
What is cult of the lamb like by the way? Ive heard a lot from the devs but not much else
@@relarin952 its charming but rather shallow in the roguelite elements. Lots of customization in the base building aspect though.
the early 2000s was literally crammed with games which were both triple A and cult like in terms of following. Stop with the cope already, because people were definitely older then as well but there definitely wasn't a cry for retvrn to n64
Modern games have no soul or substance. Modern games have turned into wanna be movies. I can fire up NFSU2 and play that jawn for hours and have mad fun. Same with Ninja Gaiden Black or OG Ghost recon, Conflict global storm, PGR 2. No matter how much time I play some old games, they never get old for me. I always enjoy myself playing retro games because they were always about having fun gameplay. These modern games feel the same across the board, and there is a saturation of the same gameplay. There is not much variety in gameplay in games nowadays. Anybody right now who would fire up old school max Payne, Def jam, Old school splinter cell, Freedom Fighters without a doubt will thoroughly enjoy those games no matter how old they get.
Im 21. Autistic. Depressed.
But like.... I never really had the issue of "video games aren't fun anymore"
youll get there
@@prim4147 sooner or later...
Hope you will get better with depresion.
don’t forget, when you feel pain enough either you become stronger and get used to it or you start enjoying it. You have to deal with depression you have to be sad for a time period for your character to improve and become stronger.
@@curse2404 well shit
I think a huge reason for sure, is that most of the games just are not even fucking completed. Like they are being launched with bare minimum content because "live service" titles have destroyed the gaming scene. Devs think that because they now are being forced to deliver "free" content, they now slice their game apart. So they drop 3/4 of a game, and then release the other 1/4 as "dlc" and that is just fucked up. I know I'm in the minority, but I would rather pay for dlc knowing the base game will be a whole package, then get a shit base game, that is given content drip fed over "seasons." Single player games have gotten stale for me because they aren't a lot of original AAA titles being released. Just sequels or prequels of similar titles. Yes, Dark Souls is amazing, but how many Dark Souls like games have dropped? The fun factor fades when we get the same game dressed up as something else. Where are the original ideas? Where are the devs that are eager to give us whole new worlds with deep lore and awesome mechanics? I want a story driven single player rpg that has massive world building and a deep customisation option. But these games don't exist because devs are being pushed to release stale titles for the sake of money. Publishers have gotten so greedy that we are getting half baked half assed titles. I hate that. Id rather wait 5 years for a great game with all of that then get a bug ridden mess that is just a copy paste of something we already got. I have hope though. I love gaming. My expectations from getting past great titles is high so it's really obvious when a game has been rushed. Let's pray they turn it around.
You're basically asking for elder scrolls 6, and that isn't coming because Todd Howard is more interested in space exploration survival right now. Also this is the age of mass competitve multiplayer, so forget about stuff like world building or story progression because ppl just want loot or kills
Psychologist's fallacy: an observer presupposes the objectivity of their own perspective when analyzing a behavioral event.
This is definitely a prolific one
the major problem with these builder games is that it takes 100+ hours to get anything done, it's like crack and even at 100 hours you feel its still not done.
I just don't have the time anymore. Games used to have a good narrative, gameplay, and were concise in their execution. This is what modern gaming is generally lacking and that includes these builder games
No I just like older games. I bought a PS2, PSP, and a PS3 this year. I also have a Series X, but I mostly play OG Xbox and 360 titles on it. Playing the Saboteur and the original Ratchet and Clank trilogy.
Reject modernity, embrace classics.
The older games are so much better then the modern games
350 hour on deep rock, with few skills actually mastered. Also would like to play ultrakill, at least try Furi and consider enchain. Im not stopping anytime soon.
i remember playing deep rock and never got into it. might be fun multiplayer
@@daveraschke Do it do it do it. Just endure the first slightly confusing hours and the friendly fire to experience the dwarven lifestyle.
What's missing is "story".... a lot of these newer games all they care about is better graphics and mechanics, but they all forget to add a good story to have you engaged the whole time, in my opinion that's what's missing these days. Not challenging myself.
Ngl Elden ring gave me that same feeling Skyrim did all those years ago and now I’ve become completely immersed in every title they done. I’ve still got sekiro to experience still and I’m waiting 😂
I always love a good challenge, especially in gaming. The problem is starting a new challenge outside your comfort zone.
Getting the initiative to start a new challenge can be so overwhelming, especially as you get older. If I was a kid, starting something new is not a problem since there's plenty of time and the curious mind is still fresh.
But after getting older, the mind change a lot, sometimes pessimistic, anxious and stressful. These mental barriers just stops you from enjoying the fun in life and makes you feel awful at times.
break the barriers, you can do it
or stay where you are, your life
@@SkreltNL I love that you didn't forcefully motivate me, just giving me your two cents.
Nevertheless, I'm better now. Still have mental barriers, but only on bad days. Still cynical and pessimistic, but can always take a much needed break. All in all, it is what it is.
i feel you
I hate how I nowadays want to relax and play something from my backlog after working, but instead, I end up wasting an hour on social media.
I enjoy story-rich games, but most of the time I play COD mobile while watching TV with my family.
Splatoon 3 is a great game, but after playing so much of the first one, I cannot play the 3rd for long sessions.
Growing up sucks.
How old are u ?
@bluehawk56 Bro said he’s 16 😂
@bluehawk56 Imagine being 16 in 2022 🤣
@bluehawk56 Yh not a little kid 🤣 imagine being 16 in 2022
@bluehawk56 imagine being 16 in 2022 🤣🤣🤣
I still play many games by diversifying my pallet.
Elden Ring made me love games again
Shit is so funny. It’s just open world dark souls call down y’all. I say that with dark souls being my favorite game of all time.
Yeah exactly. That game consumed my life for 3 weeks straight everyday. In all honesty the less games we play the better, once youre in your 20s, but once in a while a game will come out that is worth the time. Like BotW or Hollow Knight
“look back in 2009”
me born in 2008: so let’s look back to 2013
Imo, you are WRONG, games like Elden Ring, Halo, and many more capture my interest. And I have a blast playing them
When you booted up the Minecraft Tutorial map tears crossed my face, tears of nostalgia
I never went through a phase like this because I always played a large variety of games on many different systems, always buying them on sale. Most of them were also Indie games with a maximum amount of variety. A side-effect of this was never, ever beating any of them on anything but "easy" mode (until recently), but I also never, ever got tired of them. There was always something new to play, and dozens of games on my bucket list if I ran out of new games.
For me the way to get out of this slump was to only play types of games that I hadn't played before. Like hollow knight, like subnautica, like V Rising. Much more satisfying to be surprised than be critical of something familiar.
I think it's because we were younger without a care in the world and nowadays games are just businesses
@bluehawk56 me too man luckily I wfh & can game as much as I want more or less but all my friends don't & it's just not the same anymore
i miss gaming in childhood
For me it's the repetitiveness, the execution of the product and/or the quality
I agree with some of what you said , but I really think the industry has gone off to somewhere else that kills enjoyment. I mean when was the last time we got games like Far Cry 3, Fallout New Vegas or FO3, super Mario 3 or Super Mario Land and so on. Industry has definitely changed and not for the better. It’s not all about challenge and it’s silly to blame it all on that. Many games are lacking immersion a huge factor in the fun factor for many. Games are now overdone with skins skins skins,,, that crap kills the fun factor. The list goes on, not just on my lack of ‘challenge’
I've got the problem of always chasing that first experience I had with a game, recently I've done my 8th playthrough of shadow of the colossus and after it I noticed that I instantly knew the puzzles, where the weak spots were etc. I will never get that awe I had when I was 10 or when I replayed it at 16. I've especially noticed I haven't tried any new games past 2020, I just replay the same games and at the same time I'll be saying "games just aren't good these days" I used to look at a game on steam and read the desc and if it sounded good I'd buy it - now I read the name of the game and dismiss it if it doesn't sounds good. Even if I do buy a new game I sometimes just don't play it till a year later. Gaming has been a double edged sword
It's really hard sometimes because there's so many Games to get through that they can just blend together. I feel the same way about TV I'll watch old things ive seen then wonder why I'm not as hooked
Great video man 👍👍
U just made me rethink about games all again❤️
Im the type of guy who's addicted on social media and have never realized until now that the games that I really enjoyed (after 2018) such as Far Cry 3, BOTW, Portal 1 & 2 are the games where I ignored my phone and didn't open a browser on my PC
@10:16 It’s exactly this reason that I stepped off of gaming.
Start “rant”
I’ve tried most genres out there and developed a decent level of mastery on a lot of them. It’s to the point that any new game that I tried out seemed like a rehash of another game’s mechanics and their plot (if they even have one) has become somewhat predictable.
I still casually watch gaming vids here but I’ve mostly lost the inner voice that says, “Lets play that game ourselves”. Sad but that’s just how it is. Also, ever since I “quit”, I’ve spent less money and have been more content if that makes any sense so those are positives. 🤷🏽♂️
End of “rant”
This was a really good watch, thanks for sharing your point of view.
Personally i find editing videos for games much much more entertaining than actually playing them, making your own cinematic/mini movie is extremely rewarding, although time consuming.
What games do you most like to do this in?
@@relarin952 War Thunder, games with replay mode.
It's not on us when literally every game for the past 10 years has been a carbon copy of each other, with minimal to no innovation in gameplay.
I'm a completionist previously but I guess I was burnout before so I stop. I tried to diversify and change something in my gaming style like playing indie games (which I find something new that are not often made by AAA developers), old games I had never touched before(apparently I just know I like point&click games), and playing games without thinking about collectibles, achievements, and scores. So far it works for me... single-player and coop only. I tried again multiplayer in the open beta of MWII and R6 Siege, and after 1 hour I immediately uninstall it as it was stressing me out.
That challenge to anxiety level thing is why I add 1 more heat to every run in Hades. Keeps it interesting.
I love the irony of mentioning the attention span thing in the last 4 minutes where all the applicable people have probably already stopped watching.
I'm extremely guilty of using my second monitor for UA-cam while playing, but there's one game series I respect too much to distract myself from and that The Legend of Heroes, the music alone can make my eyes water (and I thought my eyes were too dry for that for a couple of years).
At one point I started listening to podcasts while playing LoL, and looking back this is around when I started to get bored of the game
My take is: games were fun because they were an escape from reality. It wasn’t so intertwined with social media, “entertainment” for viewers per say. Overtime, with the variety of games and competition within the creators to make the next big thing was rampant. It’s absolutely nothing like it’s used to be.
I remember playing all the Lego games. Man 😢
Gaming us dying because of greed microtransactions and developer laziness but its also the fact that we're all growing up
If you're not having fun playing games, the answer is not buying more games, instead take a break. A week, a month, a year, whatever it takes. Come back when you're ready.
That helps me, other times I have to simply breathe for bit, stop my mind from thinking about other things that may be bothering me. Relaxx. Then jump into the game.
"and I know you played it"
Me: who didn't play it: 🥺
i like how I'm only playing osrs and it goes against every single tip on this video and I realize that AND I know i hate playing it but it's all I play and watch youtube/twitch at the same time. don't even know why, I get no satisfaction out of the game except for those 3 seconds when I hit a 99 after 200 hours of mindless grind
It feels great to have less than 15 games in my steam library lol. I know my games and stick to them
It's not Nutela's fault their coco spread isn't as good. It's the customer's fault. Nothing to do with them replacing the coco with plain white sugar to save money.
Okay, you're projecting a lot!
I'm having fun with a lot of games, I've played over 150 hours of the closed tests of battle bit this year and it's been a blast and I love it!
I've played over 500 hours of project zombies this year, it's amazing!
The problem with AAA games is that they are made by people who saw success in earlier games, and just want to make money, be powerful, be famous!
There are things in new triple a games, that make me question, did the devs even play this game or any game?
The answer is mostly no.
But battlebit is a great example of a dev who loves fps games, and the game design is based on that.
In 2009 I was in Virginia car surfing going to garage parties(kickbacks) smoking weed, gangbanging, having shoot outs, fighting an playing alittle bit of Madden an NBA live ah the good ol days
As a trophy hunter playing games and doing brutal challenges has never got boring for me I play all kinds of different games and I'm always having a blast with it
his conclusion is pretty accurate to why rhythm gamers keep on playing or movement shooters are still popular. it's just not that hard to push yourself in those games and the high density actions keeps you satisfied.
You used Neon Chrome soundtrack?!?!?!
Mannnnn you have great taste
It's either nostalgia causing me to love older games and it's just luck/coincidental that i still enjoy playing them, or, if i have changed as a person and thats why i dislike new games because the initial magic has gone from my youth, then no amount of nostalgia would enable me to play a terrible or average game thats boring...
...You cannot have it both ways, you cannot argue for both at the same time. You've contradicted yourself here. If it is due to people changing through life experience and age, and thus games just don't have the same effect anymore, then surely my changes as a person would induce me to no longer enjoy those old games? I mean actually playing them and still enjoying them (and not just reminiscing about them in my head or via a video playthrough). Nostalgia is purely contained within the memories in the synaptic neurons transference in the brain, it's something inside my brain, tied to the essence of my mind, something scientifically physical but essentially abstract, something beyond a present reality happening now that can be measured and contained (in a jar for e.g). Whereas physically doing something, in the current moment that exists whether i'm aware of it or not, has nothing to do with nostalgia, and thus my enjoyment of something i may be physically doing in real time has nothing to do with nostalgia, nostalgia is an independent factor conditioned purely by memories and feelings, but if i game was that bad, no matter that sense of strong nostalgia, it would be unplayable regardless of any nostalgic feelings associated with it.
This whole nostalgia argument for why people still enjoy 'playing' older games needs to be cracked open and dismantled so it can be revealed for the straw-man argument it really is. I haven't successfully done this here, i know, it is difficult to explain, but if anyone can actually make sense of what i've said with my layman's attempt at constructing my thoughts cohesively about something quite complex, then it may well add towards that revelation - that the nostalgia whiners are full of 💩... and games are either objectively better when you play them or they are just simply 💩 games, irrespective of nostalgia.
Yes. I still love my old favorites. I have replayed some games over and over again over the years. Yes, I have less time, so I cab't spend as long as I want on them, but they're still fun.
It's like rewatching a great movie. I still crack open the LoTR trilogy sometimes. Or a great piece of music. You can get tired of it in the short term, but you take a break and come back to it and it's as good as you remember.
What ruins games for me is when they stop being free running fun, where I enjoy myself without caring about optimization too much, to a FOMO checklist and financial dick measuring contest.
There are plenty of great points in the comment section and in this video but (maybe I'm just speaking for myself) there seems to be less happiness among this generation now than before. I, for one, know I was nowhere near as depressed and dreading my future compared to 13-year-old me who played Halo and Terraria all day. Sure, I was having a rough time at home and whatnot but I'm virtually unbound from my childhood shackles yet I feel less free now than ever. I am aware of more things now than I was when I was younger and that is both enlightening and damning at the same time. That goes for gaming and the modern industries too. I see right through the issues of this society. Games had predatory companies only in it for the money back then but now it's insanely complex schemes they're allowed to pull off in front of millions. And when consumerist societies want something they'll get it no matter how shitty the previous year's release was. Games are just becoming, mostly, a reflection of a stagnation of creativity and creative autonomy.
Dammit... i have the same problem with my best friend.
Everytime we play games, his phone allways plays along with us.
We played a Battle Royal Game and since we´re total newbs in that kind of genre, we survived for arround 15 minutes at best.
10 minutes into the game, his phone rang (girlfriend) and he immediately picked up his phone.
Of course his focus wasn´t there anymore since he stopped talking to me.
I allways wanted to strangle him for stuff like that because it seems to be impossible for him to call back after we died anyway.
You cannot imagine how it enrages me all the time >.
@bluehawk56 i know that problem.
but at least i try to find the immersion and play things in a different approach.
Even if it´s not my genre at all.
The thing is... my friend isn´t able to focus at any game for unknown reasons.
The term "Wow thats a pretty good game" is causing my eyes rolling because i know, that the next game is allready in view.
Meanwhile im sick of that sentence tbh.
Then the next game, then the next and it´s a neverending cycle.
Of course he told me more than often "Let´s play this, let´s buy that and play together"
Ahhh... no??? Because i dont wanna waste my time or money playing any nonsense game you picked randomly, which in the end you play for 3 hours at best?
I'm sorry bro but you missed the mark on this. Videogame quality has definitely worsened in recent years. Most game feature some form of predatory monetization while being significantly more expensive than ever before; different genres are being merged into one, and games feel all the same, especially with every game having these useless and counter-productive RPG elements that are completely out of place in some games; writing is especially bad and full of cringe real-life political references that NOBODY cares about; character design is unintresting and boring; enemy design and IA are dumb as hell and pose no challenge at all, most developers think challenge=bullet sponges and infinite healthbars; gameplay loops are repetitive and tiresome... literally the only thing games have improved in is graphics, which is literally the least important aspect of a game. So no, I'm sorry, but I'm definitely blaming the industry. Political hacks, feminism, and people that are lazy and lacking passion have inflitrated the videogame industry and are making products that are unappealing to gamers, which aim at furthering their personal agendas. THIS is why AAA games suck. Of course, gamers are also to blame because they keep buying that garbage, but do I even need to talk about the state of marketing, which more ofter than not blatantly LIES about the games, and try to hide aspects of the game that they don't want you to discover until it's too late? Or when they launch games in UNPLAYABLE states, horrendously optimized, full of bugs, just because of their damn "day 1 patches"? Games as a service models plaguing the videogame industry? Nah bro, I am sorry, but modern videogames suck because the people making them, 90% of the time, suck. And that someone would even try to deny or justify that is insane to me. In no other industry would this be even remotely allowed, these people would be out of a job in a week maximum. And yet they keep getting away with broken, uninspired, lazy cash grabs because there is no regulamentation and they are literally allowed to make money selling trash. Gamers are truly the most oppressed minority.
It actually sucks when people say that they are going to stop playing games and I have stopped playing block fortress empire , it is fun but no longer and it's not fun when to see someone never returning to that game again
The games today are an empty void. They have no soul no ideas no emotion nothing.
I use to have a main game for some years, then play some others as a break regularly. This game is often a complex one with many options and ways to play, along getting new content regularly. Some of them are Minecraft, WoW and Empyrion G.S. (5000 hours). Survival and strategy game types are what I enjoy most, that also provide diversity and creativity (building and tactics). Like Command & Conquer and Settlers types, 7 Days 2 Die and Planet Explorers - there are many, where keep coming more. FPS games have often pretty simple game mechanics and are repetitive, along fast paced. Of that genre I had Unreal Tournament as my main many years ago. Now and then I can "go back" and play some older games, like Supreme Commander FA (FAF). VR and proper AI in games are still just in the beginning, where the graphics keeps closing in on being "realistic", so still something to look forward to.
Then I also have (had) other interests and hobbies, indoors as outdoors. So I get breaks and "vacations" away from gaming regularly, where go back to a main game or others to put in some more time.
I've been gaming since the 80's and have kind of been bored with the sameness of modern games. That's where indie games on Steam saved the day. There is A LOT of garbage, but with a little research you can find many many bangers. Usually for $20 or less. Without a powerhouse development team, these developers really lean into innovative mechanics, narratives, art styles, stories and gamplay. They bank on fun. The right indie games can absolutely rejuvinate that childlike excitement and devotion you used to feel for a new game. I can't recommend giving these small developers a chance enough. Throw $15 at something outside your comfrot zone and don't sleep on those "overwhelmingly positive" ratings, you'll thank yourself.
Same train, been playing since '83 and tired of the movie like games with boring characters and story and online competitive specially on this new decade. Going back to indie game, games made by AA studios and retro gaming.
I think I enjoy playing with myself sometimes
Mw2, black ops 1 and 2, the last of us, watch dogs, dark souls 1, fallout new vegas, battlefield 4, minecraft, far cry 3, sonic unleashed, bioshock, banjo-kazooie, halo reach, gta 5. Ahhh.... the glory days
broo can you tell me the song name on your video on why club pengiun died 0:23 pleees
Handhelds are keeping my interest much more. Vita, DS/3DS, Switch.
I disagree. Yes, I am not the same person as before, I am older, I have more experience in games, I can't play 13 hours in a row anymore (actually, I can, but not on a regular basis) and I have other hobbies and responsibilities.
But I still get same feelings and emotions from games as i used to. Sometimes. Those emotions and feelings don't last as long as before, that's true and that's a problem on my side, I agree.
But I do think tho that industry is a bigger part of this problem. I just look at modern games and I can't see myself even wasting my time to find them on torrent to check them out. Not to mention spending money on them and completing them. I look at indie games and I don't want to play them. I look at AAA and I don't want to play them. I got 3 free months of Arcade and I didn't find a single game that's interesting for me.
Since 2011 every year there were fewer and fewer games that grab my attention and even fewer games that I actually buy/download and play to the end. I wanted to play ~15 games in 2011 and actually played 10 of them. There are 5 games coming this year I'm interested in. I only got two of them so far and I'm not sure I'm gonna buy/download anything else this year.
Sports games such as Fifa, Madden, 2K are the ones that bred this monitization slowly into anything that can be played which created this greed for maximum monitization regardless of the games quality. DLC was cool you got an extra addition for a fully fleshed out game (maps, weapons & characters) for a fraction of the full games price but now there are rarely even fully finished games released, yet you can pay $10 for a skin in a game that is broke.
Games have been watered down and publishers have used analytics to alter the intial vision of game devs. All the garbage backend systems in games designed to keep you "engaged" are ruining gaming and all pushed for by the game publishers. Games have gotten a lot bigger and with more money in the system, there is a lot less risk taking (once again a decision from the publishers). Idk its crazy to act like with how big gaming has gotten, that there hasnt been a quality dip in an attempt to "appeal to everyone". Games have lost their inital vision and are just a way now for big companies to extract money out of you for as little investment as possible. The true creatives of in the industry are beholdent to the game publishers who make all the calls, despite knowing nothing about game design. These are businessmen who only seek to make money out of gaming, even at the cost of a games quality.
Thanks for the detailed exploration of this! I think there is another facet you brushed up against that would greatly increase your points once aware of it. Andrew Huberman has some really great explanations about dopamine and motivation. His points play into and are a great scientific backing to yours in this video. In short, our brains have a cyclic system where the more powerful of a dopamine "high" we get, the more powerful of a low will occur after. This low cannot be shortcut. Thus, the enjoyment we feel for any given activity is influenced by our recent activities prior to it. That "scrolling thru your games list & not being interested" feeling, even in other activities of life, is often a sign we need to give our systems a break & let our dopamine levels balance out. It is actually a hormone of motivation, not reward (i.e. your pleasure vs fulfilment point). Nothing sounds interesting because we're burnt out on our motivational circuits, until we give them a rest OR find something even more exciting. But the latter is not sustainable; eventually we all cap out.
Thanks for reading my TED talk summary :)
I understand what you mean, I recently installed and gave dungeon 3 a try. A game I had no interest in but redeemed it when epic games gave it away for free and yet I’m having more fun with it than several games I wanted and paid full price for.
For those AAA companies blinded by greed let me teach you how to make a money worthy game:
1) A fully paid game shouldn't have microtransaction it's only valid to free to play game since they had no income.
2) You should launch a game finish without bugs & glitches. You know the saying " A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." It's true because everyone hates bugs & glitches because it shouldn't be on a finished game because it is just not a definition of finish.
3) If you're gonna make an open world game might as well fill the huge map with things to do & explore not a big & empty one.
4) Please hire someone to beta test your game so that they can check if it still has bugs before release.
5) Stick to the trailers & teasers. Don't add or remove things or features that you show on trailers.
6) The game should have less cinematic / cutscene. Having long cutscene dosen't always mean it's bad though good example of long & entertaining cutscene is Ghost of Tsushima. I'm just saying please always add a skip cutscene button.
7) If you're gonna put treasure chest on the map let the players discover it for themselves not put a chest sign on the map. An example of this is Assassin's creed Blackflag.
8) Make the rewards for every main & side quest rewarding this is were Sea of Thieves fail.
9) Make minimum prequels & sequel & produce more franchise. The problem with too many Grand Theft Auto, Assassin's creed, Far Cry, Fall Out, etc is that players already know what to expect & is bored with playing the same game again & again.
10) For FPS games enough with auto regenerate let us find med kits that would be more of a challenge.
11) Stop copying each other game mechanics. Rockstar copy Assassin's Creed's eagle vision in Red Dead 2, Ubisoft copied dialogue option with the Witcher, EVERY FPS GAMES COPIED MECHANICS FROM CALL OF DUTY AND SOO ON.
12) Make boss battle hard when the life bar of the enemy is half or nearly depleted the boss should change attack patterns.
13) Give us option to turn off Aim assist, waypoint & let us fail in the quest to make it short don't make your game so scripted like it was made for babies.
I got tired playing at modern games. But whenever I play on 6th to 4th Gen console/pc games. I do have fun. Idk.. I just find the older titles more pleasing than the latest games. No complex gameplay mechanics.. just pure fun.. games might have challenging moments but not as aggressive as today. I do play those games tho. But if I want to enjoy and relax.. I play old titles. That's all..
Heh, funny, IIRC I was pretty much in this phase circa 2009... when I also learned about this concept of Flow !
Otherwise, good points, and even though while I (ab)used Slashdot in my spare time on the Opera mini browser on the 2007 Nokia N75 smartphone, concentrating on the thing at hand was hardly ever an issue,
maybe I should try some of those games that I never played, like Call of Duty (so, Modern Warfare 2 would be the best ?) or Dark Souls (starting with the first one ?) ?
I chuckled at this because I purchased COD MW2 this week. I haven't played a COD in ages. I have played PUBG and strategy games mostly. I'm having the time of my life with this game. It feels smooth, gunplay is fun, and love leveling up the guns. It just proves your point, if it's new it creates that special feeling.
you and i must be playing completely different games
And I bet 2 weeks after you will return to PUBG because COD s**ks
@@brownsterring9259 lol. This just popped up on my phone. I have left it. Sbmm killed the fun for me.
Games have just got worse the game developers used to devolve the game with care and passion now they just toss anything together and throw in micro transactions gameing is a business and developers are smart
this is very true and somewhat eerie since i’ve always played first person games since bo1. long story short, my fiancé told me to take over playing sims 4 while she was doing something and that “new” feeling was there. i played sims 4 for hours the past week, even had my siege buddies send me messages asking why i was playing sims 4
13:08 I hate that I pulled out my phone in the MIDDLE of you talking about short attention spans and people pulling out their phones...
i genuinely think i dont enjoy alot of games the same way i used to because thats my issue is for example with fortnite everyone plays harder and more competitively than they used to i genuinely want a more casual experience at least for a week at a time
Nah, games are pretty trash now day. There are games like Skyrim that people have been playing for years and years , todays gaming industry is all about maximizing profits and sacrificing quality, you can see it by all the rushed game released we got in the past few years
I haven't changed, the industry has. In 2009 there was no such thing as Black Rocks ESG rating, and bigTECH wasn't trying to control the narrative via social engineering.
AAA games ARE bad, because they have to be.
It’s very simple answer… Fortnite did it.
I’m going to explain why.
Before couple of years we always got phases of games
Like guitar hero era when most of the manufacturers tried to create cool tools to use as a controller.
We had the MW era when a lot of companies made first person shooters games and for the most of them was extremely good with true passion. We had the CSGO era of creating again the Competitive gaming. We had the pay to win era as well. But all of them got something in common. They used to be different and show us the gamers why it’s cool to be different.
And in some point we got H1Z1 and PUBG and the Battle royal games became popular and I like it very much!
But we had Fortnite as well, game that I truly loved but never played because I was playing H1Z1 and CSGO.
But Fortnite was giving us the worst thing that could ever happen to the gaming industry and it’s the Battle pass.
The mix between childish content + Free to play game + skins that cost money but it’s not “Pay to win” created huge money maker that kicked PUBG, H1Z1 and more battle royal games out of the list…
And this is how all of the other gaming developers was focusing on Battle passes and Battle royal Content only!
Yea for sure we still got dota with huge fan base, we got lol, and more…
But even Minecraft became for the most battle royal game, cod became for the most battle royal game… and the games who don’t just failed or made a battle pass content to cover the cost and we got to the point of today that literally 99% of the popular games are using the “battle pass” option or doing battle royal game / game mode…
And it will never change again
"did i ever tell you... the definition of insanity... doing the same exact sh*t expecting different results"
3 games peeps should try is "VRising" "Satisfactory" and "Grounded"
For those who keep saying aging is the factor.... it is not. I started playing old games from 2005 and magic is not gone. I loved re3 more than remake. Some games were so much full of content., variety of gameplay rich story and innovation despite it being old. It is like viewing a portrait and a photo. Portrait is full of art and passion while photo is just better looking bland sight lacking in everything even a good angle
I play single player halo and try all the speedrun strats for a challenge. online pvp fps just bores me these days.
factorio is amazing but even that still gets stale after a while, thats why rimworld is my go to, it seriously is different and challenging every single time.
5 Reasons !!!
- Lack Of Updates/ Poor Updates
- Repetive games
- 💰 2W games ( Cash Grabs)
- Bugs & Glitches ( Unfinished Games)
- Cheaters / Glitch Abusers
video is completely wrong. I still enjoy many games when theyre good - the thing is, the industry HAS changed, games ARE Worse now. I dont just hate on Everything like hes trying to imply here. i hate on stuff that SUCKS. i hated all games nowadays except for a few exceptions ive actually enjoyed. when theres good stuff i aknowledge it n like it but 99% of stuff out there right now is just GARBAGE. and it didnt use to be like that. even UBISOFT used to be the big revolutionary legendary studio AND LOOK WHAT THEYVE TURNED INTO NOW!!!! video COMPLETELY misses the plot of the topic and tries to spin this into some very unintelligent and honestly Pretentious "youre the problem!" non-sense. No. No Im not the problem. I didnt tell these devs to put out garbage. I didnt tell Ubisoft to stop being cool. Didnt tell EA to turn into the most monstrous studio there is. I didnt tell Blizzard to add a anti-consumer battle pass into Overwatch 2. The industry is doing all of that on their own. With only few exceptions like... Elden Ring or Life is Strange.. two recent games I enjoyed and give full credit for being aweosme and being "just like back then!" cuz its amazing games.
the concept of the video definitely won’t apply to everyone but I do feel like there are people who can take value from it!
Industry has become insanely greedy, besides that, it's not specifically the games themselves, even though they were obviously better a decade or so ago, it's the people we're missing.
I feel like a lot of games have become copies and remakes that's why they don't feel fun in my opinion...
Thanks for the advice, I will go and try different gaming genres
I disagree. you are trying to say the video game boredom problem is within self, but that is a false belief. video games are boring because current developers are simply not creative. Every game is a copy and paste of the previous one with a different skin. people are getting bored with the same ole bs over and over and over, "press X open door" press "B" crouch "look out!" cut scene.... press "A" block attack....open map, set waypoint..... oh and "open the loot box with your wallet"
Now all companies are obsessed with realism and graphics which gets boring quick
Earlier games had a certain over the topness to themwhich made them ageless classics
I still have fun with today's video games. I don't play multiplayer games. I play single player and co op games with family. The reason for that some people don't like today's games is cause people have grown up. When your a child literally anything will get your attention and you could have fun with kicking a rock around. Plus today there are so many games that are alike and sometimes that can suck when you experience it over and over with a new coat of paint. Like far cry 3 is amazing but far cry 6 is also really good but it's just like far cry 3 and doesn't change much and because of that many people won't enjoy it.
Yeaa the reputation of a franchise has to take some of the fun out. I loved Far Cry 6 because i only ever played 5 but I could see how they are really similar
@@relarin952 yea comparing the new games to the old ones can make it unfun for some. Like with call of duty if youve been playing every single one since the beginning your not gonna like the news most likely. Like I'm not a huge call of duty cause I'm not really into multiplayer games but I played the single player and even some multiplayer and I really enjoyed the new modern warfare. It was fun. Also when you have nostalgia for the old games in the series it can be hard to really enjoy the new ones. Like for me personally I love the old assassin's Creed games and I just don't really enjoy the new ones. It's not my style. I like stealth games and the new ones just don't give that to me.
There's an old adage, "There's a first time for everything." Unfortunately, this adage has a counterpart that more often than not, goes unmentioned; "you can only experience things for the first time, once, then never again." What I've come to realize in life is that there are several memories of moments in my life that I look back on fondly and even wish I could relive, even when I've had similar experiences that mimic and even dwarf those old memories. That doesn't stop me from reminiscing. A harsh truth of life is that every moment you live through lives in the subsequent shadow of past experiences. When you're young, and know very little about the game world you inhabit, you're imagination runs wild creating crazy possible scenarios, while reality beckons with ever increasing changes turning an alien landscape into a home of sorts of the mind. Imagination becomes reality bending to your will, or so it seems. Once that is done, and the world becomes more familiar, you settle, but your mind still wonders every now and then of new possibilities. As you approach the edge of the world and its limits, in life or otherwise, ideals get replaced by fact, and imagination gets replaced by memories. Once that happens, you still desire to have that childlike curiosity, but achieving it ultimately gets replaced by a tireless effort to find it in the first place, and eventually you realize just how limited some game worlds are. You can only live through an experience once, then it becomes a memory, and future endeavors to relive the memory are just that, endeavors to relive the past. New things are hard to come by, but so worth it when you find them.