Rulon Allred & History of Mormon Polygamy w/ Elizabeth (Allred) Phillipps

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • On a special episode of Mormon Book Reviews "Polygamist Princess" Elizabeth Phillipps returns to the program to talk with Steven Pynakker about the history of Mormon Fundamentalism and her grandpa polygamist leader Rulon Allred. Growing up in the “Group” as part of the AUB, Rulon Allred was not only Elizabeth's grandpa, but a larger-than-life leader. His legacy has carried through generations. The Allred family line goes back to the beginning of the LDS church. By following what Rulon believed to be the “Line of Authority” he became the surprising leader of a group of Mormon fundamentalists. His closeness to the mainstream LDS church and created a liminal space where polygamists can easily pass as regular mainstream members of the LDS church while practicing plural marriage. Elizabeth dives into the past with personal stories from Rulon and those closest to him.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 27

  • @keldoncarroll5325
    @keldoncarroll5325 Рік тому +3

    I’m a mainstream Mormon living in Hamilton, MT which is right next to Pinesdale, a prominent AUB community. Some really great people in that community. It’s been enlightening to learn more!

    • @MormonBookReviews
      @MormonBookReviews  Рік тому +1

      Love it. Thanks for sharing!

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 7 місяців тому

      How do you know they’re really great people?

    • @joshuathompson1357
      @joshuathompson1357 Місяць тому +1

      I'm one of those people lol citizens from Hamilton and corvallis were always very kind to us. I loved that we had such good relations between communities. I've since moved to Utah.

  • @chriskingsley2483
    @chriskingsley2483 5 місяців тому +1

    very interesting to to learn this history that most people don't know or learned warped version of it.

  • @CraigNewsome.
    @CraigNewsome. Рік тому +2

    I loved this one. As a convert to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Of only 6 years. And an ex Pentecostal, and a gay man, lol.
    For some reason, I find plural marriage completely fascinating! And this interview was so informative. I’m particularly interested in how it’s was handled in the main church in the in the 1900s to 1950s. So there was lots of clues in here.
    Fantastic job you guys.

  • @user-ep6lr2cx8m
    @user-ep6lr2cx8m Рік тому +1

    I am from the James allred line an my mom was friends with Rulon and a cousin she loved Rulon and was very saddened when he died.

  • @walterulbricht2
    @walterulbricht2 Рік тому +1

    Intimate and in-depth narrative and context - what a treat. Great episode.

  • @lchisha00
    @lchisha00 9 місяців тому +1

    Very accurate information Elizabeth. Thank you. I loved your grandmother Athleen, she was so smart and lively and highly respected.

  • @stevenparkin6486
    @stevenparkin6486 Рік тому +1

    I'm mainstream LDS in Holladay UT. This (former) Allred property is within my LDS Stake; and I drive by it often. Once sold, common residential townhouses were built over the property and surrounding acreage, retaining the Allred "white house" among the dwellings there. I suspect the current residents of that house do not know the history of it.

  • @StevenRetz
    @StevenRetz Рік тому +2

    With all the polygamist being so independent who is the one who has the key for polygamy?
    Supposed LDS D&C 132:7 ... and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred ...

    • @gracegiven8875
      @gracegiven8875 10 місяців тому

      Why? Curiosity or do you wish to have them?

  • @icecreamladydriver1606
    @icecreamladydriver1606 Рік тому +2

    Isnt it funny how all these things come forth many years later. I still say BS on joseph ptacticing and preaching polygamy.

  • @gwendolynnorton6329
    @gwendolynnorton6329 9 місяців тому

    Wow! Quite the resemblance between a young Rulon and Paedon Brown!

  • @China-Clay
    @China-Clay Рік тому +3

    Anne Wilde!!!

  • @donnellallan
    @donnellallan 7 місяців тому +1

    Liz is lovely and these people sound very nice, but, whoa, hold on! Can we all just agree that human beings of African ancestry are not inferior or under some imagined curse?! The racism that showed up at the end of this excellent presentation was jarring and very disappointing. Please do not “whitewash” white supremacy. 😕

    • @basicallyno1722
      @basicallyno1722 7 місяців тому +1

      I agree - it wasn’t just Africans either. They were incredibly aggressive toward Natives and other brown people, and felt they were entitled to the US land more than the Natives.

  • @alisadunn5443
    @alisadunn5443 Рік тому

    Mu sister in law was part of the Allred group.

  • @James-cz5hf
    @James-cz5hf Рік тому +6

    I used to think Scientologists were gullible. Then I read about Mormons.

    • @sheldonjackson383
      @sheldonjackson383 Рік тому +4

      Apparently you haven’t read much, or you’ve read all the anti propaganda.

    • @James-cz5hf
      @James-cz5hf Рік тому +2

      @@sheldonjackson383 Spoken like a true propagandist.

  • @cdavis7255
    @cdavis7255 8 місяців тому +1

    Salt River is in MO. Isaac converted in MO not TN.
    Isaac and William left TN 1830 for MO. Hyram Smith and John Murdock visited them in 1831 then others. The Salt River Branch of the church was organized in 1832.
    Sources:
    Allred, Reddick N. Autobiography, in Treasure of Pioneer Hist. - K. Carter, ed. 5:297-372 DUP, SLC - Allred,
    Wm. M., autobiography, unpub. ms.- Biography of Wiley Payne Allred, unpub. ms., author unknown.- Munson,
    Eliza M. A., Early Pioneer History, - 3 page unpub ms.

  • @user-in2ru8cs1g
    @user-in2ru8cs1g Рік тому

    These people have a lot of made-up sounding names. Ervil? Verlan?

  • @yunginspirit3162
    @yunginspirit3162 Рік тому +1

    There is no such thing as ''Mormon Fundamentalism!''