Month before TBC release we made the most progress, suddenly downing several bosses in AQ40 and started Naxx. Unfortunately TBC got released and never got the chance to try radiing Naxx for real. Looking forward to re-do this!
those gm whispers have pushed me to restore an old HDD i have sitting around, that i KNOW has vanilla/tbc screenshots it felt like such a magical experience back then, now it's a social hellscape (i'll always attribute that to LFR.)
Love the AQ music in the background (some of my favorite music in WoW). Tubers, Nightdragons, Oils, all of the pots that you could use multiple times. I remember one of our warriors making sure he always had free action potions. I really miss that kind of stuff from Vanilla.
i miss it too there were good times, but nowdays with work with 3 shifts shedule it wont be pissible to rexperience it for me, i dont have 40hours per weak spare time to commint, makes mi kinda sad
I think pretty much every player on every server looked up to him, I remember seeing him IRL in the subway as a kid once and I came back and told everybody in school hahaha, I was the boss that day.
I used to play on Magtheridon back in Vanilla (actually I still play on Magtheridon EU, only now it's a PvE realm). I remember the intense crowds in Orgrimmar (and the intense server queues to get in) when Nihilum got world first on Kel'Thuzad. Fun to see screenshots with names I recognise roaming around my old home.
When i started in early BC i didn't know what pve was... I just qued bgs after elementary school every day....for 6 hours. ( I was 10) as an arms warrior.
Damn I remember back in the day hearing about you guys. I was on the U.S. server Thrall. I remember we were running AQ, MC and a few other places but by the time we had our guild half ready the burning crusade came out.
43:35 drive.google.com/open?id=0BzN90CC_xhvDS3RESFp6NnZoMnc this is the [EPIC] radio show broadcast on the 19th of August 2006, the same day as in the screenshot
With the desert (AQ) music in the background and kungens narration, it gives the feeling of a real life experience of knights telling tales about the good ol days in war/combat (sort of like robert baratheon from game of thrones constantly bringing it up.) Title should be "Viking king reminiscing about glorious battles from ages past"
On thaddius 1 person cant realisticslly cause a wipe, if 1 person is on the wrong side they will do about 2.3k dmg to each person, and all those ppl will do 2.2k dmg to them. Causing that person to die. For you guys to wipe at 1% multiple ppl messed up, it wasnt the rouge alone 100% unless ur all somehow sitting below 2k hp lol.
ye it was Ruin from Darksorrow who joined you, Muqq and Quantz, Maniaku and a few more players, after that the players who did not joined reformed into Last-Hope
Affliction merged with Malediction on Genjuros to form Original Sin and then merged with Nihilum to get world first, if i recall correctly from my Genjuros days
"Well played penn" - meanwhile looks to me like the only difference is Penn used recklessness on that kill and no1 else did. Most probably the others were on CD from using it on previous attempts.
@@rashid2898 this is 100% the guild bank character. with all the people funneling into it to support raiding and get gdkp even if they are not allowed in the high end raiding yet.
@@rashid2898 lol I strongly doubt it. Accordingly to Kungen there was 1-2 blizz employees that didn't like Kungen so Id imagine they were looking for any reason to ban him. Which they finally got in WOTLK ICC. It doesn't take alot of brain power and some logic to think most likely he being the GL everyone was funneling him gold, he was taking all the mats/boe's etc and AHing them. But is it possible he was buying gold? Sure it's possible, it's just not likely. They possibly wouldn't emphasize 10-20 people in addition to their 40 core raiders that would be sitting with them farming gold/mats during raid hours to earn DKP and then spend that DKP in previous tier to get loot if they were just buying gold. Seems like people will just comment randomly without putting literally any thought xD. L take man, L take...
So who were you mystery people and why did you decide to join Nihilum only to to leave it before TBC? why did you leave it when the future looked so good for you guys in TBC?
Information moved so much more slowly back then. Everyone knows about Wars in late vanilla now, but back then the info wasn't as widely known. Notice also how he says they had only one lock because locks were bad? We now know that Warlocks in vanilla actually scale well in DS/Ruin; but you have to take lots of them for ISB uptime and then they scale to the moon... We have the benefit of hindsight in 2017/2018 that they didn't have then.
See even 6 years ago these ppl didn't realize you take warriors and everything else is basically a bonus to buff the warriors. How'd people know durning original 😂
They usually were, it's just lack of knowledge of the general player base in vanilla. Back then barely anyone used the Bloodvine set as a caster, whereas we all now know that that's a must have if you wanna raid as a caster dps. Same goes for having a single shadow priest in the raid just for the 10% shadow damage they add which is a major increase to the dps of warlocks.
@hamsterwheel These guys were one of the best guilds around at the time, doubt they had a lack of knowledge. There was a reason people didnt bring hunters and locks to naxx
That's odd because I'm raiding naxx on a vanilla server right now, and the dps that always is on top is either warlocks, rogues, warriors or mages. It's not like locks are at the bottom of the dps, and we usually have around 6 to 8 locks in there. Giving them all a 10% dmg bonus with shadow weaving is huge, go ask any guild that is now raiding naxx on private servers and ask them if they bring a shadowpriest to the raid just for that buff. Chances are, they will all answer yes.
@@baroque. The math is 99% correct on serious private servers and I can confirm that Warlocks do very well if you go close to the hitcap + stack spellpower and worldbuffs and do your theorycraft homework. With all the (100% orgininal) juicy class mechanics, shadowbolts crit very high and if it wasn't for the ignite on Mages, Warlocks would much likely out dps them. Hunters on the other hand are not that good in late raiding phases. So the reason Nihilum raided with so many hunters, was probably because they simply lacked WL players.
he was the best Raidplayer in Vanilla and BC. He was the Faker or Olofmeister what you would say today. So its ok he is talking like he is the best in the world
I played lots of end game early in EQ1 and to me that had the most hard core and unforgiving PVE of any game. Raid bosses were difficult, and there were no maps to dungeons. One guy farts the wrong direction and you've got a huge train that wipes your entire raid along with hours of progress. While I did enjoy vanilla WoW, I don't feel it was all that you make it out to be. I was fortunate enough to raid deep into Nax, so I agree on its difficulty compared to what kids these days are used to. However the grind and repetitiveness of farming towards the end of Vanilla made the game very boring. Plus the class skills were much less refined. Once you hit level 60 there wasn't much to do and WoW PvP has never been as much fun as games like Shadowbane and UO. Generally speaking, we lack a good sandbox MMORPG with a skill based leveling system, great PvP , crafting, and end game PVE content. Lots have tried to accomplish this, but none have yet gotten it right.
was on same server was always a great treat to have him tank dungs hehe fucking best tank ever in wow was hunter bck then ( yer yer i know stfu ) never had to use md n fd hehe
Kungen Flexing he never got killed in the world is the weirdest flex I swear. 99.9% chance he was always sitting in Org AFK unflagged. And/or he was being summoned from 1 spot to another in a complete raid. It's impossible to play a Warrior in world of warcraft and play SOLO in a pvp world and never get ganked. Warriors are strong at PVP ONLY if you prep for the fight. If you're caught while you're not expecting it IE you're killing a mob and someone atks you, you're gonna die. And to add on to this, Kungen was never a Glad, never held any PVP titles, I'd be surprised if bro even made it to 1800 in 2s or 3s in TBC, not that that would prove anything but yeah.
As someone that didn't see past instructor, anub and faerlina back in 2006 it's awesome to see these pictures. It was a different game back then.
Month before TBC release we made the most progress, suddenly downing several bosses in AQ40 and started Naxx. Unfortunately TBC got released and never got the chance to try radiing Naxx for real. Looking forward to re-do this!
those gm whispers have pushed me to restore an old HDD i have sitting around, that i KNOW has vanilla/tbc screenshots
it felt like such a magical experience back then, now it's a social hellscape (i'll always attribute that to LFR.)
WOW CLASSIC IS HERE !
I'm still cumming even days after the reveal.
so fucking bad ass!!!
more like it will be here in 2 years..
in like 2019, maybe.
Yeah lets see whens the first guild to beat naxx this time :D
Love the AQ music in the background (some of my favorite music in WoW). Tubers, Nightdragons, Oils, all of the pots that you could use multiple times. I remember one of our warriors making sure he always had free action potions. I really miss that kind of stuff from Vanilla.
i miss it too there were good times, but nowdays with work with 3 shifts shedule it wont be pissible to rexperience it for me, i dont have 40hours per weak spare time to commint, makes mi kinda sad
Kungen was looked up to by my whole guild. The man knows his shit on vanilla / bc
I think pretty much every player on every server looked up to him, I remember seeing him IRL in the subway as a kid once and I came back and told everybody in school hahaha, I was the boss that day.
I used to play on Magtheridon back in Vanilla (actually I still play on Magtheridon EU, only now it's a PvE realm). I remember the intense crowds in Orgrimmar (and the intense server queues to get in) when Nihilum got world first on Kel'Thuzad. Fun to see screenshots with names I recognise roaming around my old home.
When i started in early BC i didn't know what pve was... I just qued bgs after elementary school every day....for 6 hours. ( I was 10) as an arms warrior.
hahaha i did exactly the same with my twink 19 hunt, i was around 10 too. Good days
The legend.
What a self assured young man
hahahaaaa he is the best.
Actually he's pretty old I think. He just looks really young for his age.
Warrior T3 shoulders are still the best looking item in the game.
Damn I remember back in the day hearing about you guys. I was on the U.S. server Thrall. I remember we were running AQ, MC and a few other places but by the time we had our guild half ready the burning crusade came out.
43:35 drive.google.com/open?id=0BzN90CC_xhvDS3RESFp6NnZoMnc this is the [EPIC] radio show broadcast on the 19th of August 2006, the same day as in the screenshot
awesome, xou got some more episodes?
It was Ruin from Darksorrow, the guild that transfered, you guys Took our entire officer core and guild Master, damn you guys...
Muqq Quantz ekke and 5-6 others
I feel so bad cuz i havent kept my screenshots since 2004 :(
My pc broke but I kept the hard drive any idea the best way to get data from this?
@@andrewmorgan7500maybe try Google my guy???
going outside in the summer watching football. what a casual ;P
i /waved to you in shadowmoon valley long time ago.
We used to make alts on Magteradon to follow this guy around Org.
you mean tuaren mill eu?
49:28 Listen carefully " until something magical happen" ---> CLASSIC !!!
kungen wanna join back the classic server soon? just to snatch the world first once again on the new classic server?
when he started talkin about heroes of newerth i sperged out. Still play it today its better than ever. and polly mid is still dope
That's funny, we had TotalBiscuits co-caster in our guild at that time, listening to EPIC was hilarious. His name was Kikijiki.
Kungen hasn't even commented on vanilla classic announcement.
his wife won't be happy lol
nax 40 was the best gaming time of my life.
41:58 wtf 19 k gold
With the desert (AQ) music in the background and kungens narration, it gives the feeling of a real life experience of knights telling tales about the good ol days in war/combat (sort of like robert baratheon from game of thrones constantly bringing it up.) Title should be "Viking king reminiscing about glorious battles from ages past"
On thaddius 1 person cant realisticslly cause a wipe, if 1 person is on the wrong side they will do about 2.3k dmg to each person, and all those ppl will do 2.2k dmg to them. Causing that person to die.
For you guys to wipe at 1% multiple ppl messed up, it wasnt the rouge alone 100% unless ur all somehow sitting below 2k hp lol.
Its crazy how low the skill level was back then
Still is really low
it was much less common for people to spend all day on their computers, also there was no guides or videos about how every boss works
@@romnesia7729 Not that low.
Compared to nowadays, for sure!
when was this stream?
Thira will never live this down
8:35 where is that music from? It's giving me mad nostalgia but I can't place it.
just AQ (Ahn Qiraj)
ye it was Ruin from Darksorrow who joined you, Muqq and Quantz, Maniaku and a few more players, after that the players who did not joined reformed into Last-Hope
That mail at 27:30! Haha var det kul i Malmö Kungen?
lol must've been fun playing with him /s
I miss kungen so much :/ What happened to him? This was the last stream i saw from him.
Kungen has bipolar disorder. That's what happened.He has a Twitter btw.
Affliction merged with Malediction on Genjuros to form Original Sin and then merged with Nihilum to get world first, if i recall correctly from my Genjuros days
What soundtrack is this playing in the background? Is it Ahn'Qiraj?
Exactly ^^
Awake stories, like Awake the Paladin ?
Even with all those items in pvp, Vurtne would still take you ;)
here we go again
I remember this stream do you have the rest of it as well?
"Well played penn" - meanwhile looks to me like the only difference is Penn used recklessness on that kill and no1 else did. Most probably the others were on CD from using it on previous attempts.
THE best raid ever.
how you found this? Link?
41:56 19k gold??
he definitely bought gold.
well gold from the guild might be funneled onto his character not nessarily bought gold
true thats how they did Guild banks before hmm@@Luffey1232
@@rashid2898 this is 100% the guild bank character. with all the people funneling into it to support raiding and get gdkp even if they are not allowed in the high end raiding yet.
@@rashid2898 lol I strongly doubt it. Accordingly to Kungen there was 1-2 blizz employees that didn't like Kungen so Id imagine they were looking for any reason to ban him. Which they finally got in WOTLK ICC.
It doesn't take alot of brain power and some logic to think most likely he being the GL everyone was funneling him gold, he was taking all the mats/boe's etc and AHing them.
But is it possible he was buying gold? Sure it's possible, it's just not likely. They possibly wouldn't emphasize 10-20 people in addition to their 40 core raiders that would be sitting with them farming gold/mats during raid hours to earn DKP and then spend that DKP in previous tier to get loot if they were just buying gold.
Seems like people will just comment randomly without putting literally any thought xD. L take man, L take...
dionysos the motherfuk was in my guild before he left for nihilum rofl
Kungen has a heart of pure gold.
Yo [PF]Cure4Pain! Excited for Classic servers? :)
The way you talk in the video, shows that there's no big difference between the time u played wow vanilla and now Min 30:51
gamer word
Why did you guys leave before TBC?
I miss Kungen. :(
@baroque , what guild did u come from and why did u guys leave nihilum?
Original Sin, though it was fun, it was also time consuming, we left before TBC release, because we wanted to do our own thing again :).
So who were you mystery people and why did you decide to join Nihilum only to to leave it before TBC? why did you leave it when the future looked so good for you guys in TBC?
Maybe it was to intense and time comsuming
"So at this point we were bad" still a nax 40 raiding guild lol.
You were from bladefist/outland, no?
Yes. Though we also went to Genjuros for a while, before landing on Magtheridon :).
Nihilum should be formed again to show first kill in war within
They wouldn't even get past the first boss. New gen is waaaay different
why did u upload this 2 years later?
DOnt you have some more videos? would be interresting, seeing them. Also, you get more views :) even on this you have 68 000 already :)
Baroque you quit wow when bc released?
is there a sequel or part 2 ?
why kungen doesn't stream anymore?
I think he does , he is on youtube .
how did you not have more warriors on patchwork warriors dps was top
Information moved so much more slowly back then. Everyone knows about Wars in late vanilla now, but back then the info wasn't as widely known. Notice also how he says they had only one lock because locks were bad? We now know that Warlocks in vanilla actually scale well in DS/Ruin; but you have to take lots of them for ISB uptime and then they scale to the moon... We have the benefit of hindsight in 2017/2018 that they didn't have then.
@@Esonarlol no locks are trash lol, 1 or 2 per raid.
why would they raid with only rogues and mages as their dps?
They did the most damage. They only took Warlocks and Hunters for the buffs. Hybrids weren't as good, they were just healers.
Why bring anything else
See even 6 years ago these ppl didn't realize you take warriors and everything else is basically a bonus to buff the warriors. How'd people know durning original 😂
11:07 LuL
Typical swedish/norwegian english-accent xD
Swenglish
Im surprised you even had 3 hunters and 1 lock... Weren't hunters awful dps and warlocks scaled stupidly during AQ/Naxx?
They usually were, it's just lack of knowledge of the general player base in vanilla. Back then barely anyone used the Bloodvine set as a caster, whereas we all now know that that's a must have if you wanna raid as a caster dps. Same goes for having a single shadow priest in the raid just for the 10% shadow damage they add which is a major increase to the dps of warlocks.
@hamsterwheel These guys were one of the best guilds around at the time, doubt they had a lack of knowledge. There was a reason people didnt bring hunters and locks to naxx
That's odd because I'm raiding naxx on a vanilla server right now, and the dps that always is on top is either warlocks, rogues, warriors or mages. It's not like locks are at the bottom of the dps, and we usually have around 6 to 8 locks in there. Giving them all a 10% dmg bonus with shadow weaving is huge, go ask any guild that is now raiding naxx on private servers and ask them if they bring a shadowpriest to the raid just for that buff. Chances are, they will all answer yes.
HirachieOfSociety well he kinda explains it at 5:47.
@@baroque.
The math is 99% correct on serious private servers and I can confirm that Warlocks do very well if you go close to the hitcap + stack spellpower and worldbuffs and do your theorycraft homework. With all the (100% orgininal) juicy class mechanics, shadowbolts crit very high and if it wasn't for the ignite on Mages, Warlocks would much likely out dps them.
Hunters on the other hand are not that good in late raiding phases. So the reason Nihilum raided with so many hunters, was probably because they simply lacked WL players.
he was the best Raidplayer in Vanilla and BC. He was the Faker or Olofmeister what you would say today. So its ok he is talking like he is the best in the world
YOU THINK YOU DO BUT YOU DON'T REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
FeelsBadMan
´Holy shit he talks like he is the king of the world wtf
yeah dude didnt u know being good at video games makes you god
Well, back in those days, he was king of the world.
Yeah true. He should just cut it tho. Imo
Well he was the king of the world... of Warcraft
his name is kungen translated to king on swedish. So yea he is the king.
I played lots of end game early in EQ1 and to me that had the most hard core and unforgiving PVE of any game. Raid bosses were difficult, and there were no maps to dungeons. One guy farts the wrong direction and you've got a huge train that wipes your entire raid along with hours of progress. While I did enjoy vanilla WoW, I don't feel it was all that you make it out to be. I was fortunate enough to raid deep into Nax, so I agree on its difficulty compared to what kids these days are used to. However the grind and repetitiveness of farming towards the end of Vanilla made the game very boring. Plus the class skills were much less refined. Once you hit level 60 there wasn't much to do and WoW PvP has never been as much fun as games like Shadowbane and UO. Generally speaking, we lack a good sandbox MMORPG with a skill based leveling system, great PvP , crafting, and end game PVE content. Lots have tried to accomplish this, but none have yet gotten it right.
wierd to see that theres no fury warriors lol
there are furys. there is even one topping the meters in one screenshot.
And what do you think those warrriors on top dps positions were? Arms?!? LUL
lmao why would you be proud of popping FAP every time you get ganked
It was obviously part of the game, but relying on it to win every engagement wasn't something to write home about.
nice
Vanilla :(
well have you learned the news? :DDDDDD
Kungen is best to do it,ever
Warrior back then was no fun, especially PVP
if you are bad, yes
Hahahahahaha
was on same server was always a great treat to have him tank dungs hehe fucking best tank ever in wow was hunter bck then ( yer yer i know stfu ) never had to use md n fd hehe
Kungen Flexing he never got killed in the world is the weirdest flex I swear.
99.9% chance he was always sitting in Org AFK unflagged. And/or he was being summoned from 1 spot to another in a complete raid. It's impossible to play a Warrior in world of warcraft and play SOLO in a pvp world and never get ganked. Warriors are strong at PVP ONLY if you prep for the fight. If you're caught while you're not expecting it IE you're killing a mob and someone atks you, you're gonna die. And to add on to this, Kungen was never a Glad, never held any PVP titles, I'd be surprised if bro even made it to 1800 in 2s or 3s in TBC, not that that would prove anything but yeah.