This was one of the hardest things I’ve watched on Rogan. I have high functioning autism and I am very sensitive and loving, so naturally my parents neglected me when I needed to be cared for. I am almost 50 years old now and I’m just starting to understand that the things my parents tried to put on me were actually their issues, not mine.
I think I’m the same, I was rejected at birth by my mother, I think it’s now I’m only coming to realise the damage that may have been done. I’m 51 and my whole life I’ve lived in a fight or flight response
Correct, exactly. One of the 1st things I've learned in therapy was #Projection . To sum it up- However ANY individual is feeling on the inside will naturally come outward in their emotions, speech, language, and actions. The human species must evolve by learning to NOT TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY, when it comes to judging another individual's Character.
That's the case with everyone, everyone's parents gaslight them at some point. You're too old to start resenting your deceased parents, let it go, you're not a victim.
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I'm diagnosed with ADD and when I got older I realized that with sounds and noises. When it's too loud (too stressfull) I started to tune out in the past years
Someone who has ADHD once said to me “It’s like having lots of tabs or pages open on your computer at the same time and trying to process them all simultaneously “ and that has allowed me to make more sense of what it must be like than just thinking it’s hyperactivity or too much energy…
I wouldn’t describe it like that, my brain seems to load all the tabs totally fine. For me the problem is like someone is randomly switching between any of the tabs at any given time and the only way I can stay on the tab I want is to do drugs or do something I really enjoy. Its also caused me to have large amounts of depression and constantly feeling inadequate or inferior to others because I just can’t keep up.
Another similar but more old fashioned description is a child sitting in a circle of a dozen separate radios all playing a different station at the same time and trying to process all of them at once. I laugh when people like Deepak Chopra and other meditation teachers say to "Notice the space between thoughts." Are you kidding me? Amidst any "space" is 100 more thoughts waiting to strike.
I recently got diognoised at 27 with adhd, i never thought my child hood was bad because i knew so many people who had it worse, but listening to this im realising i was extremely stressed all the time because of my parents and i was alone 99 percent of the time. Damn.
It's all to do with maternal nurturing in the end, but we can't blame the parents. They probably did what they could, with the knowledge they had ,at the time. Good Luck 👍 👵🤯🧞♂️🫂🤞☮🙏🏻🥰
@@susancarolan153 when two people DECIDE to create another life and treat him/her poorly, they absolutely deserve blame. Some really don't do their best at all. Not sure what kind of fairy tale world you're living in, but you're dead wrong on that front.
@@thatguy4885 You need to exercise amigo.. run, cycle, badminton,, wotever... thats how you focus your energy, keep away from things and people that have a negative effect on your life,, take a time out by puttin headphones on listen to tunes or a book or a lecture so your brain can get a rest from repetition at key times of the day you feel it more... you have to work hard at relaxing- exercise + nature + good conversation= happiness.......... if you tune out at work its time for a new job! Awe 'Ra Best Mate! 🤘💀🤘
I think Joe’s interpretation of what they’ve labeled “anxiety” is pretty standardised, for those who’ve never really been cursed with it. Anxiety isn’t being concerned generally with how the future might pan out, or being in a state of nervous anticipation of something happening. It’s the feeling of mortal dread, in the pit of your stomach, every day, despite no rational reasoning. It’s that feeling right as the rollercoaster tips, that turns your whole body inside out. For no rational reason. It’s sweating uncontrollably, twitching or itching like a mother fucker. For no apparent reason other than you’re outside amongst people. It’s constantly feeling like a family member is going to die every time they step out the house, despite rationally knowing it’s extremely unlikely. It’s a chronic and very debilitating issue that no one who’s had experiences with it, would describe as a normal part of life. It turns people into fantastic actors though. Sending good vibes to anyone else trying to work past that shit every day just to leave the house. 👊🏻
You just explained me to a T . When I first wake up in the morning it is the first thing I feel . I dont even have time to think about anything . Its already there .
@@robbosuave6165 I feel you Robbo. I know that feeling well. You have to take it on though, look it in the face, know what it is, know it’s not there by choice. I treat it like an allergy, or a migraine. When it’s there, it’s torturous, but you can take it on. There’s a few things I find really helps; multiple cold showers a day, exercise, like intense, empty the tank exercise. Cut out alcohol when it’s bad, and caffeine too, they’re like throwing petrol on a fire. Eat cleanly, drink loads of water, and get a journal and empty your soul into it every morning. Breathing techniques are meant to be good, but I haven’t figured them out yet. Be well mate, it can be better 👍
I think what Joe is trying to say is everyone believes their anxiety is worse then everyone else’s. Sure there are people with little to no anxiety but from what I have seen by talking to people and reading hundreds of thousands of comments is that either 80% of the population has an anxiety disorder or that maybe everyone has anxiety and a lot of people have it pretty bad. We all think crazy thoughts!! But what do you do with those thoughts. I would be considered a person with an anxiety disorder but I refuse to let my thoughts control me, I will fight those feelings and thoughts and be sure to not entertain them even in the slightest way because they grow bigger quickly if you even give them a second thought. Take captive every thought, you are in control! I want to learn to manage my own mind and not rely on medication to numb me
And then when talking to certain people about it, they give their 2 cents in the form of "Dude it's all in your head, you just gotta believe in yourself" k thanks 😂
Gabor Mate is probably my favourite human being in this galaxy. He has such a calm and warm demeanor and because he has an extremely open mind completely free of hubris and arrogance, he's been able to really get in touch with the things that make us who and what we are. He understands the healing nature of plants and also understands that we are spiritual beings deeply interconnected to each other and everything else too. He's brilliant and sincere and I would encourage anyone to look deeper into his past work. A true scholar and authentic healer and just a fine human being in general. Love you Gabor.
Today, I'm in my fourth year of medical school. Looking back, I remember my fifth-grade teacher who, despite her best intentions, didn't understand the diverse homes and backgrounds we came from. She didn't see the potential in a kid like me, labeled with special needs. To anyone feeling stuck and doomed to fail, take your time to learn. You’ll fail, but what you take from failure is what ultimately matters. For me, those lessons led to my acceptance into a better school for magnet students. At this new school, I wasn’t seen as a kid with special needs, but rather as someone with ADHD and anxiety. My new school provided the resources to help me thrive and be successful. They offered specialized programs, counseling, and tools that helped me manage my ADHD and anxiety, making me feel valued and capable. Today, I’m grateful I didn’t let a flawed education system put me in a box. I want to remind everyone that no matter how difficult the journey, persistence and the right support can lead to success. Cheers, everyone ❤.
I knew a guy from europe who was seen as low academic intelligence. He got onto a science degree and his irish lecturer told him that he should push himself because he had something special. He was a d student at the time he is now lecturing students in a university.
I already started reading Mate’s new book, “The Myth of Normal.” This man is channeling such a necessary and incredibly transformative energy which is to help us heal ourselves. He synthesizes the best minds, the research, as well as our deepest traditions and cultural roots in showing us that suffering and despair can be redirected to a place of hope and prosperity for all. I’m so grateful for people like him. 🙏
His explanation makes sense for me a person with social anxiety. As a kid I had a lot of stress put on me. I couldn't run away or fight back so what I did is shut down and not say anything. Now whenever I'm put under social stress I shut down and don't talk. On top of that people look at you weird when you shutdown, so now you are expecting negative feedback from your peers so you get even more anxious.
Your experience is very similar to mine. Unfortunately right now as an adult when I'm under heavy stressed not only that I shut down and couldn't talk, but also am paralyzed. I don't even know how to fix this.
Reading Mate's book--Scattered Minds---changed my life. I've been diagnosed with ADD for all my life. Taken meds more a majority of my years on this earth. Always told I was too sensitive, disobedient, distractible, and in school had low behavior grades. I wish my parents read this book when I was young. I could of learned that having ADD is like having a super hero ability of being well-attuned to other peoples feelings as well as mine. Today, I'm a licensed therapist and great at what I do because of my ADD.
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11:38 a cry for help. Yes i have always scored super high on tests in school perfect scores but never did my homework and was bored in class a lot and would act up. Looking back i can see it was a coping mechanism for me because that was wasting my time and i was confused about why i was there etc... but when i had a good math teacher who was engaging i was perfect student very quiet. But now that im older i know that there was nothing wrong with me it was bad schools teachers and parents etc... no one actually sat down and talked to me and asked me. They would lecture and berate me even though i had perfect scores when it actually mattered. Those people will be judged by God one day...
Congrats on your success, Dave. To have made it out through all of it while looking back and never really having an answer for "where were my parents during all of this" is something that I think makes you a stronger person in the end.
I remember few years back after my wife died, I was left alone with 3 kids. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with ADHD. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment changed my life for better. I can proudly say i'm totally clean for 6 years and still counting. Always look to nature for solution to tough problems, Shrooms are phenomenal.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Pedroshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, addiction. Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
I used to have panic disorder. I couldnt go to the movies or even think about anything remotely uncomfortable or it would trigger a panic attack. I would feel what felt like symptoms of a heart attack about to happen or some sentations in the head that made me feel like I could have a stroke. The more I tried to fight it the worst it got. I ended up in the er twice and even hyperventilated myself by breathing too fast and passed out on one occassion. I thought I died until I hit my face really hard on the pavement. It took years to overcome this condition completely and I learned different components little by little that eventually when put together finally helped me. Knowing what I know now I would summarize what happened as the following: 1. There is always some underlying trauma or insecurity or something unsettled in your mind that attacks you. Feelings of guilt, shame, regret. A feeling of impotency or inadecuacy that constantly triggers anxiety. And this is the key, the untreated or unaddressed source causes constant anxiety which eventually influences the sympathetic and parasympathetic nerve system and starts giving you psychosomatic sensations around your body. This is because there is literally adrenaline coursing through your veins every time this anxiety is triggered and because you don't know how to use this you manifest it in these intense sensations. Heavy breathing, rapid thoughts, weird feelings in your chest, like a black hole sucking the soul out of your body. Many different manifestations of the classic panic attack. 2. You must not be afraid of this anxiety or the horrible sensations that they make you experience. The less afraid you become the better it will be for you and the only way to lose the fear of them is to let them happen and as I like to say "surf these waves" as many times as necessary until you don't freak out every time they happen. Because they will continue to happen. At any moment you could have a panic attack and you cannot fear that. It is no different than getting a headache or even something less painful than that. It is a minor inconvenience. Desensitization makes the panic attack feel less severe but it doesn't stop it from happening. Treating the cause of the out of control anxiety is what eventually stops this. Anxiety is a natural response of the body. It's a don't die primitive mechanism of the brain. This said, the thing is, you have created maladaptive behaviors that now make everything cause anxiety for you and your body can't handle it. It must release. So find ways to do it. Be active, do not eat stimulants and if you are prescribed medications like benzos, take them properly, the moment you don't respect these drugs they will fuck you up. Stop eating and most of all drinking excessive amounts of sugar and also get plenty of sleep, uninterrupted if possible. At night. You want that brain to reset as often as possible. 3. If you have a panic attack the first thing you want to do is accept it. Second, if possible get out of whatever place you are at where you are uncomfortable and find somewhere to sit down. Also, shut up, don't talk to anyone. At least not while you are first trying to do this, eventually as you gain experience and things improve, you will be able to fucking sing in front of thousands if need be WHILE having a panic attack if you can believe this. Most importantly in all this: Don't move. Place your legs planted firmly on the ground while seated and take deep slow breaths and exhale. More importantly don't do this in extreme heat. If it is hot get ventilated, take off your jacket, if it is too cold get warm. Just don't let the temperature influence your nerve system, this make it worse. When the adrenaline rush is met with zero resistence it can run its course faster without more buildup so just try to relax, don't overthink about anything and breathe. Your panic attack will disappear within 12 mins or less. If not, calm down as best you can and keep taking slow and deep breaths and do not take your feet of the ground while seated no matter how you feel. Also, try out something called mindfulness and if you want to take it a step further try ACT therapy, aka acceptance and commitment therapy. This stuff made the panic attacks completely go away after years of trying everything else. But I hope those 3 points help someone out there who might need this info. It worked for me eventually by trial and error.
Ride the wave…or just go with it. You learn this when operating things that are bigger than you and which you can’t totally control (because of too many outside variables). You really only have the control before and at the end. Training and different techniques can improve things but it’s still a toss up from time to time
Joe, I’ve been suffering from some sort of panic attacks since 2019 and haven’t been diagnosed and haven’t taken any medication. Your remark about a sensation in your head that feels like a stroke, is exactly one of the symptoms I get very frequently, and nobody seems to understand or get it. Thanks for sharing.
I love how Gabor addressed the risk of raising over-indulgent children argument with the bear cub example. Makes you realize that when a child is distressed they need to be shown what to do in that situation, whatever it may be, and demonstrate patience. Sadly, showing children patience can be really difficult, especially if you haven't received it yourself as a kid, but it's something we can work on. What a great interview.
Disciplinse is becoming not only less emphasized, it's also being more and more discouraged as the "do whatever makes you happy" and "you're perfect just the way you are" positivity obsessions that teachers and parents apply to everything became/becomes more mainstream. There's a huge lack of discernment, nuance and contextual evaluation missing from the culture of our nation today. Throw in accountability and patience, of course.
@@nathanmcdowell4731 I get you I believe that it is important to be stern with children, but being neglectful is not the way to go about parenting. If your child throws tantrums and acts unpredictably, you're not listening to them. People that are good parents seldom have to worry about their children embarrassing them while maintaining a good bond with love and respect. I don't want to bring in training dogs but there are two ways people train their dogs, one way is being stern and consistent, and the other is abuse. You know what I mean?
@@zeenea_c yes, you're exactly right. That's the nature of true love, not some fairytale happily ever after or accepting and excusing character flaws, true love has a stoicism and bravery that remains level headed while directly addressing misbehavior and explores the pathway(s) with a child that will lead to them processing their impulses or emotions and correcting how they react to them. Too many parents assume innocence of their child out of a false understanding of love and believe they shouldn't be (or at least appear to be) critical, skeptical or suspicious of what they say or have done. A child raised in that environment will become accustomed to being free of scrutiny and accountability, which will leave them unprepared to accept it when they are confronted by other authority figures . These types of parents often defend and downplay their misbehavior, reassuring their child once they are alone together that the consequences or punishments are unfair and undeserved. I could go on for a while about this, but true love realizes that no one is perfect the way they are and feels driven to help them identify and improve upon the behavior that would make others dislike them. Friends and spouses ought to do the same for their friends and loved ones...calling out lies or adjusting the setting on the vacuum or doing and saying whatever needs to be done or said so that they can become better in every aspect without judging them for falling short sometimes ...
My mother became incredibly overindulgent of my youngest brother after I introduced her to Scattered Minds by Gabor. I think his ideas are great for people and families who lack care and love, but for a mother who already leans in the direction of coddling and helicopter parenting it can be all the validation they need to completely indulge their motherly instincts. My 17 yr old little brother is still sleeping next to my mum and never leaves her property now after having zero life experiences (my mum didn't want to push him to do anything that made him uncomfortable or might traumatise him, as Gabor is always warning us of). I feel partially responsible for introducing his ideas to her. His life is virtually ruined as a result and I will likely be his carer when my mum dies.
Being diagnosed ADHD myself I can say without a doubt this man is on to something. I agree that kids pick up on the energy of there parents and if there's alot of stress or violence they learn to tune out I did this exact thing and now I know this I am going to implement practicing with my own son. Holy crap this is a breakthrough
Is it really that hard to learn the difference between “their”, “there” and “they’re”? English is not my native language, i never studied english grammar and i know that shit.
@@Voodoo_Robot roflmao are you just scrolling through flexing on people's grammar in the comment section. What a pity life you must live. God bless you in Jesus Christ's holy name.
My friend has been diagnosed with panic and social anxiety disorder. I grew up with this lad, watched him go from a confident young man who spent 7 years in the military to someone that struggles to leave the house. He can’t go shopping on his own and has extremely bad panic attacks. He’s had quite a few panic attacks when I’ve been with him, he even got taken to hospital in an ambulance a few times. It’s horrible seeing the terror on his face when he has a bad one as I know he’s thinking this is it I’m dead. His anxiety is that bad he come out in a rash on his feet and hands mainly and his stomach problems are that bad he passes horrendous amounts of blood, and it’s all because of his anxiety. It’s a terrible thing to have when it is severe. I went into a shop with him last year, 7 in the morning, when it was quiet. He only wanted to buy one thing but the guy kept asking him questions and he just froze and the colour in his face went white and he just stood there frozen, he couldn’t even get his words out to the fella. The guy realised something was wrong and started talking to me asking if my mate was ok. It’s tough to watch a lad I grew up with and loved and respected so much suffer this way.
Same boat as him. Was hospitalized for 3 months and doing better now. Psychotherapy and medication is a good place to start. I don’t believe these guys are talking about these debilitating forms of anxiety and pd. What’s annoying is people won’t know the difference and use this As agency to understand people with serious disorders. War is hell but it can get better, if you have a struggling friend encourage them to go get professional help. Time does not heal these wounds they become mental illness
Ask him to look at a low carb, sugar free diet. That will disrupt the gut-brain disconnect that is a real thing. Fixing the diet even vastly helps autiism. There are a huge number of doctors who understand this now. There are videos about this right here on You Tube.
I’m 43 and crying. I was diagnosed at 18 and this is the biggest truth I’ve every heard. I have known for years the thoughts and impulses that distract and ruin me are unwanted coping mechanisms from my childhood.
Im 42 and was finally diagnosed last year, my chilhood was destroyed by my parents divorce at 6 years old, I remember ALL OF IT. I cant remember what i did yesterday but that is still like it just happened.
I was diagnosed in 1983, at 6 years old, when the concept was still new. Everyone thought I was just a stubborn kid and many adults even berated me, telling me things like, “there’s nothing wrong with you, you’re just a selfish brat.” As an adult, my impulsive nature puts me in a position where I address issues before I finish my current issue and I’ll end up with 10 unresolved issues by the end of the day. I read a paragraph and by the time I finish I can’t recall what I read. At 47, I’ve finally been able to make the steps to see a psychiatrist and get prescribed vyvanse, which has been a fantastic and refreshing change.
Unfortunately I think the host is making assumptions about ADHD without understanding what it is. He should interview a Dr. Russel Barkley on ADHD to get another perspective. Many misconceptions about ADHD were talked about in this interview. As a teacher and parent of a son with ADHD I can tell you it is a real disorder.
@@themisfitmama4397 I’m not op but I take the same medication and I have no adverse effects and I see results within 2 hours of taking the first pill, I’m not exaggerating it really was that fast, anxiety pretty much completely disappeared within them first two hours
Maté is one of the most important healers in the world. Incredibly underrated, and with his new book release, his knowledge and wisdom have never been more needed. If you are new to him, please continue watching. Thanks for finally putting him on Joe Rogan.
Joe clearly hasn’t experienced a genuine anxiety disorder. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night covered in sweat short of breath.. the best way I can describe the feeling is that initial feeling you’d get if you were shoved off a cliff and that visceral feeling you get just keeps replaying over and over. Your thoughts come at you at the speed of light and you’re so overwhelmed for Seemingly no reason. A lot of people say they have anxiety.. No you have worries.. when your fight or flight response just fires up randomly you’ll soon understand
I think he probably hasn't ever felt intense anxiety on marijuana either. He calls other people (Normand, Gillis) pussies for not wanting to do it ON THE SHOW when they need to be sharp. He says they need to confront their anxieties. And to a degree he is correct. But for some people the anxieties are so intense than it's almost impossible to have a healthy outcome. For Joe, I feel like he gets high and is like, "Oh I shouldn't have had ice cream two weeks ago. I need to deal with that urge." Whereas someone else might get high and be like, "I got raped as a child and I am still dealing with that. Ahhhhhhhhh."
It's been awhile since I've had full blown panic like that, but I know it's Hell. Things feel so real and scary. Wouldn't wish it on anyone, not most anyway.
So glad this subject was discussed. This podcast happened at the most perfect time in my life with my own son. He is 5yo and was diagnosed with cancer at the end of last year at 4yo. He just started kindergarten 3 weeks ago and its been beyond rough. His anxiety about everything now seems like it's leading to ADHD. The stress that me and and his mother have been in the last year is something I cant describe, yet I can only imagine the stress he felt and still feels. We lived in the hospital for 5 months straight in complete isolation and the whole time you try to explain to your child whats happening but a 4yo will never understand cancer so he has no idea why he is being tortured everyday when he has done nothing wrong........ Cancer can suck a dick dude
@@ericharvey7333 thank you he is in remission now thank goodness. Sorry to hear that about your kiddo though. I cant stand seeing these innocent lives having to go through these kinds of things. The floor we were on in St. Jude was the worst experience of my life. Only advice I have for the parents going through these things is dont even try to process it. It's not possible. All you can do is keep your head on straight and just be there for your child
That's intense and very much a hard thing for your family to go through. I find it helps to say that part is over and there is so much future and wonderful things ahead. State of mind and gratitude in the moment is very effective. It's the great moments to look forward to. Keep your child upbeat and inspired. We are what we consume. Try to consume nothing but pure foods, good thoughts,good content. I ask my every night 3 things that were these about today. We never stop dreaming. Children are over stimulated from this complex world of wants and desires. Step by step ,keep it simple.
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This is one of the best JREs. I teared up multiple times listening to this conversation. The importance of love and compassion in our lives cannot be ignored anymore for material gains.
Gabor founded safe consumption site in Vancouver east side. , western medicine as we know it is designed to keep us in pain , be cause the capitalism and political influence of big pharmaceutical says so so shut up and drink tge kool aid!!!! Not all bad but think bout it
Dr. Gabor Mate is a wizard of the highest order. Listening to him speak mesmerizes me. The cadence of his speech, the wisdom in his words, and the vulnerability in his heart expresses deep compassion. The weariness in his face and eyes tell me that dude has seen some things. Long may you run Dr. Mate. The world needs you.
I resonate with this heavily. When I was at the ages 7-9, they decided to medicate me for ADHD and at the time, I was being molested repeatedly with divorced parents and my single mother was supporting myself and my brother all alone. When I look back on it, it makes me wonder if there ever was anything wrong with me in the first place, or was I just a small child dealing with stresses that I never should have been dealing with while trying to survive in a classroom.
something really similar happened to me ... I was taking multiple different medications for anxiety and depression while also self medicating with extreme amounts of other drugs. Years later as a young adult i'm realizing there wasn't anything 'wrong' with me, I was a child subjected the the emotional abuse and turmoil of adults. As a 6 year old. It's taking quitting all those drugs clinical or not, working out daily, talking to therapist, getting a dog, other forms of healing, etc and it's still hard. It's a long journey, but the only other option is to lay down and die. And as crazy and painful as it can be sometimes, life is worth living
I got diagnosed at the age of 7 when my parents were fighting constantly and then separated. My mom moved us out of our house to an apartment and I only saw my dad once a week.
I think 80% of American kids got screwed by the pill push. They gave me the same pills for not being smart enough in school. Then when I used weed got asked why I want to depend on a drug to relax. Does America want people to get ass fucked by companies while being drugged into coma so we don't feel it?
I can totally relate with you my family was totally dysfunctional i was physically and mentally abused I was an emotional mess before I even started junior high school so I turned to drugs and alcohol to self medicate for the next 35 years until that almost killed me im 53 now and have been sober for two and a half years and work a program but I still deal with some mild depression and emotional issues but I'm working on getting a therapist, thank you for sharing 😌
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I was diagnosed with adhd at a young age and watching this made me pretty emotional; It affects my memory,emotional availability,relations and even my morality because I've noticed that some of the sociopathic tendencies I've picked up from my father and then some of the narcissistic aspects from my mother. Often times I act cold and very distant as a way coping mechanism on top of my brain adopting a very "out of sight, out of mind" mentality. It leeches to objects I put down and spans all the way to names or even entire people out of fear of emotional harm. I confide in my own company so much that for a very long time I wasn't aware I lost all my acquaintances, even now I feel the people I talk to were added as a masquerade of normalcy.
I have never resonated with something so much, this comment is honestly a summary of the social aspects of my life. Only just realising the impact having Adhd had on my upbringing.
I really think this guy figured it out. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 5 and as I got older I noticed I had this habit of whenever I'm in a situation where I'm not comfortable I'll just stare at some place and my brain just switches off.
But overcoming situations in which we are not comfortable is how we grow as people. Do you expect or believe that a human being should be comfortable everywhere they go in life? It just doesn't sound like a diagnosible condition to me.
I do that too if im in a situation were im engaged im confident and very enthusiastic about whats going on but if i feel uncomfortable i just switch off and peolpe think im an arsehole but im just not into whats going on around me
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The worst thing is that in the current psychological model, if you're a patient and believe in the kinds of things Dr. Mate is talking about, then that's just more evidence of idiosyncratic thinking caused by your disorder.
“Anxiety is just future problem solving”. Very well said Joe, I can’t tell you how many times stressing out about something then coming up with different scenarios for solutions did just that
That’s quite literally its definition . What he said is true but it’s hardly profound . It’s what it is : worrying about things that have yet to happen , stressing due to a feeling of a lack of lack of control
@@Jbabzie right but I think the point of what he’s saying is that if you nullify anxiety you nullify that emotion built to help solve issues you may face
It’s also about doubting our ability to be able to deal with what might happen. The reallty is that we are more resilient than we know. Yes, times can happen that can be so hard that they could break you but we’ve all got through everything so far no matter how tough and just have to push forward and deal with the existing moment the best that we can. Apply that to every moment both here and going forward, knowing that everything is temporary and so will pass, is likely a good approach to take.
I’ve never heard a better description of what I experienced. I’ve known for a long time that I don’t want to be present or tuned in because I find life painful, but haven’t known what to do about it. I’ve very very slowly learned to tune back in through meditation and emotional regulation techniques. But I wasn’t really sure why that worked or why I’m sometimes still unable to focus and sometimes I’m fine. It’s like learning that looking at the world through squinted eyes makes it less ugly. So you never stop. My middle son has similar issues, and I was in the worst of my mental stability when he was a baby. I feel awful. And I do tend to snap at him because his issues and my issues can compound so easily. This perspective is so helpful. I do ok with him sometimes because I empathize, but I’m not tolerating failing him anymore. He’s the sweetest kid. He doesn’t deserve to go through what I went through. Both my parents were mentally ill. My Mom had severe postpartum depression and was extremely anxious in a nonproductive way. She has told me that sometimes she just left me when I was crying because she was afraid she’d hurt me and that’s the best she could do for me. My Dad was always depressed. It makes so much sense. It is such a better description to say I am hyper sensitive (I am) and was never given appropriate skills to cope. I had to make it up on my own.
If I may, no one thinks or maybe notices, but many parent teacher conferences, boards, and on a national scale been talked about by the greatest minds in the field of education. Still to this day, books are absolutely the fundemental knowledge document is to an individual. Over technology, visuals are good learning examples on a chalk board yes, but video lectures on a screen or a radio lecture (can't see it or know whom the person is) as teachers are present and the beacon on questions answered, and have the steps to walk anyone in their presents through what they know and trained and studied themselves no different, to a masterful level as thus, their way of life, living and passion, is a much better resource. Reading is focus, quiet, an alone, absolute solitude for the mind and it's knowledge document it can study and focus on. Words in a page in black also for the reason of, it's less straining on the eyes. Books are easy to pause and pick back up where you left off when a distraction happens anyways. Our brains and eyes are overstimulated to a complacent annoyance with technology advertised and pushed at us all the time, radio and TV no different in a different means. You get the full 100% nothing left out, just as the teacher themselves cover to cover started and finished in it's totality, no skipping ahead or waiting for ads or anxiety marketed emotions of a commercial either, just turn the page is all. Library's are even provided with the environment at school too to focus and maybe not be alone either if that's a preference. It's all been thought of and perfected by people before us that we enjoy. Trust me it works, learned the hard way, but it's the truth.
My girlfriend had some anxiety and went to the doctor just for a check up and the doctor without hesitation wrote her 2 prescriptions, one for depression and one to basically make her numb from the world. If your doctor prescribes you medication without first asking about: -Your diet -Your sleep -Your exercise routine -Your water consumption -If you have any structural issues -The stress in your life Then you don't have a doctor, you have a drug dealer.
I was feeling fatigued and somewhat depressed a few years ago and went to my doctor and she ran some tests that showed I was quite deficient in vitamin D. Once it was up all of those feelings went away. It could’ve been several prescriptions but she was smart enough to treat ME and not suppress some sort of feeling or symptom.
I’m 27 and was diagnosed at 18. But this explanation makes so much sense. Both of my grandparents died within 3 years of one another when I was 1 and 4. My mother was a single parent and her parents helped her SO much with me and my brother. Their passing caused an immense amount of stress, pain, and anxiety to my mom. The explanation of a baby tuning that out and that eventually can become ADHD makes so much sense. I’m blown away.
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I absolutely love Gabor Mate's work. His book "When the Body Says NO" opened my eyes when I was in my early 20's. It validated so much about my upbringing and life circumstances. I had to be "tough" and not express or have needs because my parents were so so stressed and struggling. My body paid the price of this denial and I developed stage 2 adrenal fatigue at age 25. I spent years trying to heal my body from the stacked layers of post traumatic stress. I love my family and I sympathize with their own circumstances but it feels liberating to acknowledge that my parents did their best but it wasn't the best for me.
The self awareness in your words…I am in absolute awe. I had a similar experience. I became an adult at the age of 10. I had to be the mother to my own Mom and then my younger brother and finally my baby sister. Even though there is so much shared trauma caused by the monster of my mothers second husband and my narcissistic mother, to this day I am STILL the only one that loves them unconditionally even though it’s unrequited.
It's good to share stuff. Being authentic is a hallmark of strength. I 'd say you are marking your territory. Almost reclaiming the past and healing surviving thriving and being yourself and expressing it to the world. I am proud of you.
Watched this guy in an addictions treatment centre (he’s one of the guys that are shown to patients at many centres) and his stories and information and the way he tells them had a major calming effect on everyone, definitely helped me get through it
We are Love fundamentally which is the most powerful low entropy Being . BUT we are taught that having a fear driven attitude is the way. Fuck that be kind to others and reap the rewards of being calm stoic and fear-less.
He is practicing physician, not a pop psychologist or a creature of academia. He eliminates the shame and stigma attached to addiction and mental illnesses. He is brilliant.
The father of khabib normagumedov said about khabib. his son is restless as a kid, jump over there clime over there, he said his hyper so look at what he become now? He utilized his unlimited energy.
I had a lot of repeated abuse growing up. I'm in fight or flight all the time, in different levels. My thoughts have always been scattered. I have a ton of negative effects. My anxiety is 24 hours a day. When I interact with people, it gets so high that I dissociate, and get nbed out. It effects my memory. I have large chunks of my life that I don't really remember. Which seems to distort my perceived time. I understand time passage intellectually, but I don't perceive it that way in that state, which I am in a lot. So I literally mentally feel half my age.
@They're trying to weaponize it what's that supposed to mean? Sounds like something and American incel would say to a trauma victim. PTSD is real and pretty fucking shit. No wonder your country have such a problem with rape and damaged veterans.
I’m grateful for these podcast. The free online therapy is so much better than the face-to-face therapy I’ve paid for in the past. I was diagnosed at 51 with ADHD. I was extremely reluctant to taking a pharmaceutical so I requested the lowest dosage which was 10 mg. I only take half the dose so maybe I am at a placebo level, but it works for me. I’ve also spent a lot of time researching ADHD and to ways to improve my health. Knowledge is power. Thank you.🙏
"The brain can change, if you treat it right." That's the best line. I'm constantly trying to "get my shit together" little by little and it's definitely not easy (as I'm sitting here typing on youtube) but I want to do it for myself but also so I can be a good example and help my nephew get better and deal with his issues too as he grows up.
I do meditative visualizations where I visualize my brain synapses changing. I also do regular meditation and write tons of positive affirmations. If I feel that my anxiety starts to worsen I will put spoken affirmations from UA-cam channels on a loop. I spent time in a psych ward and lived in a psychiatric halfway house and I was fortunate that my psychiatrist took me off meds almost immediately. At the time I was angry about it but now, years later, I’m grateful. Physically, I now eat vegan and do a half hour every day in the gym. I know it doesn’t seem like much, but I figure it’s better to do a little exercise every day than a lot only once in a while. I live in Manhattan and walk a lot anyway. However, I did have a bad attack during a Zumba class once, so I find it’s better for me to pace myself slowly. All my love to you and sincere best wishes. You are unique and beautiful in your own special way. You ARE successful in your goals for the simple fact that you try.❤️💋🙏 BTW 2 things that have always stuck with me and have also helped me a lot were told to me by 2 different therapists. That my anxiety attacks are my mother’s and not mine and; choose to be with people who do not make fun of others who have problems, are impatient with those with problems, or ridicule them.
Hey, I'm proud of you man. Good you have a nephew inspiring you to be a role model. I always wanted a brother or a younger cousin to do this to but was not given either. I highly suggest watching "gravemind" videos they have some incredible content. Much love
The brain generally does not fix its own medical diagnoses without medical treatment though. Examples: Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, Cancer, Meningitis.
You should try basic chi gong practices so subtle but builds strength in the bone marrow mind muscles grounding controls he breathe and helps the chi flow
@@staceymurray9644 Yes, I studied Chi Gong here in Chinatown NYC and I think it’s much better than the Zumba class I was going to. I actually had a bad attack in the gym, so strenuous exercise isn’t always tranquilizing. Agree 100% with you. Thanks for reminding me to get back to it.☯️
I read Dr Mate’s book “In the realm of hungry ghosts” and I literally quit a 3 year opiate addiction. He has changed the human understanding of childhood and Adult Trauma. I don’t like to compare but he is much more WISE (not necessarily intelligent) than Jordan Peterson. I have been waiting for a decade for this to happen on JRE
@@smokeylebear1062 a "better" medical professional???😟 They have 2 seperate fields of study so that's not really a very objective statement now is it????....🙄 Could you please name the different degrees of higher learning that each of these gentlemen hold in their field's of study??? Because if not you can't really make that "ASSessment" now can you? Its like comparing Apples to Torque Wrenches. 🍎 🔧 🍊🤔
I’m 41 and was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD in the late eighties, then in my early teens depression and anxiety were added to the list. All of this made a lot of sense to me. The puzzle pieces definitely seem to fit. With this new information I feel some hope again. Rabbit hole, here I come! Thank you Joe and Dr. Mate! ❤
You have to feel to heal. Develop curiosity of what happening to you: body sensations, thoughts, feelings and beliefs. Here are some tools to help: journaling (free), meditation/prayer, spending time in nature/with animals, breath work, ethical body workers, EMDR, fasting, therapy with a sane/effective therapist, micro-dosing psychedelics, art therapy, dance therapy, music/shamanic drumming, etc.
But notice how he explained his whole theory on ADHD by basing it on his personal experience with how ADHD effects himself? You might want to second guess what this person's motives are and do your own research before you take his theory as truth. I also have ADHD, I was diagnosed 20 years ago. I haven't done enough research myself, but I found that a great source of information for me was How to ADHD. The girl that runs it does a lot of research and her information comes from legitimate scientific studies.
I was severely traumatized years ago as a teenage, got diagnosed with ADHD. Spent my whole life fighting ADHD. I also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Germany don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
Yes he's Dr.alishrooms. My daughter did straight shrooms in few days. Made her whole! after words, no more addictions, pains, ptsd and depression. It helped us.
So many people are saying this... i wish there were readily available in my place. My partner is currently in an in-patient rehab for a perc/caine addiction. He still smokes cigarettes and now has taken up hookah vaping in there. He's looking for a proper reset treatment. I believe shrooms will help him this is something I will definitely go into. I'm curious as I'd like to ensure he can be helped and I would like him to not do much shrooms either...
he's a brilliant man, i wish we had more psychologists who had the compassion and patience to see the truth of mental health issues today, get rid of the stigma, teach people the techniques of mind management, emotion management, medication is not always the answer, it seems these days silence is becoming the answer more than anything, then medication, its rare you get help for simple things things let alone complex issues.
It needs to start as early as possible in schools too! Totally agree. Teach our children from an early age how to mange their emotions and feeling, how to avoid stressful situations or if you do how to cope during that time. Build more confidence, better communication/relationship skills, be more real with our kids and show them a few more realities about life.
This is amazing. My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in 5th grade (I think) and the doctor said he wasn’t ready to put him on medication just yet. So thankful for that. But I was looking into how to make his life less stressful and what helps me is to have less stuff on my schedule, a clean house and things to be on a calendar. I helped him do that and haven’t had any issues with him since.
Dude you resumed this so well. I have ADHD and those are exactly the things that makes my life 100x times less stressful and actually feel at peace even though I can never actually reach them!
@@psychedelicmike7311 I know exactly what book : In the realm of hungry ghosts…changed my life. I literally quit a 2 year opiate addiction after I read it. He has changed the human understanding of trauma completely. Way wiser than JP and needs more media coverage for sure. Totally agree
Listening to this wise man I understood so much about my motherhood....the mistakes I have made with my older daughter ...She was my first I was just overwhelmed unhappy tired mother...I never gave her enough support and emotions and mother's love....she hasnt got any ADHD but the emotional distance between us in noticable....she has problems with showing emotions at all to anybody in tje family....if I could turn back the time...if I knew then what I know now...jezzzzz
Basherba have you heard of Attachment styles which are formed as a baby and child with our caregiver( mother figure) which affects our relationship styles throughout our lives. When you don't have that attachment bond with child and mother(or caregiver) you are unattached causing that emotional disconnect and feeling of distance. When the babies emotional needs aren't meet by the mother the child learns to withdraw and deny its emotional needs resulting in even knowing what they even feel, or being able to recognize others emotions, they learn it's not safe or ok to express their needs so push them down and deny they exist. I know all this from my own experiences and from studying it online, it's an eye opener. Just Google attachment styles on You tube, it's a huge subject with psychologists, it would help you understand and even hopefully get help for your daughter and yourself.❤
I am in the same boat. Being a new mom with almost no support (husband gone away at work and school, no family nearby & a neighborhood of empty nesters, no other kids) left me feeling completely isolated and I would get emotionally and physically exhausted. It's so sad. I wish I could undo the damage.
@@TheKnellBelle - you can't undo it, but you can help heal it. You just have to be consistent and keep trying. And don't beat yourself up every time you interact with your child. They pick up on that stress. Just be there with your kid. Ask them what they like, how they're doing, what they're into. Tell them that you're sorry that you weren't there. Look them in the eyes. Tell them that you care. As a child of a narc mom, I would have given anything for even one day in my life for my mom to see me and be an actual mom. You can still redeem yourself. Don't ever give up. Kids are really really forgiving if you actually mean it from the heart. Just make sure you aren't just doing it once. It has to be consistent and the trust will happen over time.
Its not too late to repair and rebuild with love and compassion. Possibly start with yourself. That model alone will do her good. Then work on your relationship with her. Best wishes 💕
i had crippling anxiety and depression throughout my 20's all because of my experience at school and way my brain reacted to it. it then followed me into my adult life by meaningless job after job, sent me on a path in life i knew i was better than that. the good news is i did completly turn my life around, i was very lucky. the point is i was diagnosed with social anxiety, general anxiety, ADHD, bi polar, all of the above but its turned out i just needed to start living my true life and stop living on past memories. it took years to unlearn all my anxiety and become a non anxious person but i just want to say its possible. theres no one answer its a personal journey, you have to take a good look at your life and your personality and what you want from life, the way you react and act around people, the way your mind works, meditation helped me find some answers, break the constant flow of negative thoughts for 1 second and you find some answers. i know we are all differant but thats my story. my heart is with anyone suffering.
although my anxiety is 10 years past, my more recient involvement in nature and travel really has helped me understand what is important and what is possible. spending time in nature made me understand that nature understands what is really important and humans in the context of nature are are among the kings. So I dont worry about silly social world stuff anymore because its just not important
@@SEANMCAD exactly! nature is a big one for me too, i got into mountain biking and hiking, im currently travelling vietnam by motorbike infact! we allready have all we need to get better. life becomes exciting again once you drop your old habbits. im not saying this is in everyones case, i know there are a huge range of mental health issues which some obviously do require medication and professional help. but for thosr who developed them from personal truama and just life issues in general, you can fully unlearn the condition.
This made me sad for my son who was diagnosed with ADHD at about age 10. I was in a bad marriage and stressed and he became the scapegoat. It wasn’t him, it was we, his parents with the problem. I wish I could have a do over. We no longer have a relationship but I will always love him and have regrets until my dying day.
Please do everything in your power to have a relationship with him. Tell him you love him. Tell him it’s not his fault. If my husbands mother would just reach out & take responsibility I know it would change his life. Maybe you already have but don’t ever stop trying.
Okay, butt, your bore-ing me, because you gave up on him when he was, like, what? 11? 13 years, while you're ducking some pool boys? OMG, I'm soooo, like, offended by your feelings right now!! ......-THEN. WORK. HARDER. Sassy-pants. 😿💔🕳💣👎🫀🤦♂
I got diagnosed with ADHD as a kid but my mum refused to give me medication and also didn’t tell me about the diagnosis. I was a B’s and C’s student but constantly told by teachers I could get A’s if I applied myself etc. When I was a teenager she told me about it and I felt a bit annoyed with her at first because I felt like I had a medical condition that held me back. Now I’m 30 and having read up on ADHD extensively and listening to this podcast I understand the way I am a lot more now. It also makes me more conscious of being a considerate parent to my daughter, she’s an A’s kind of student.
Like your Mom, my Mom refused to accept a diagnosis of me having a learning disorder by a school counselor when I was a small child in the 70s. And like you, when I learned about this years later I, at first, was very upset that she didn’t medicalize the reactions to extreme stress that I was exhibiting. Now that I know about how closely CPTSD resembles ADHD, Asperger’s, etc. and am very thankful that she did this ONE thing right!
Theres a difference between anxiety and anxiety disorders. Anxiety is healthy and keeps you safe. Anxiety disorders make you anxious 24/7 and that stress wreaks havoc on your body. Some people just have overactive amygdalas.
When my oldest was small, I was emotionally unavailable for the most part. I told him to stop crying when he needed me to just hold him. He has struggled with anxiety and depression. His younger brothers, born 7 and 9 years after him, I was different and have been very emotionally available and affectionate. This also changed me to be this way with the oldest. The younger ones are much more self aware confident and doing better mentally than the oldest was at the same age, and he(the oldest) is beginning to get there too. I have him in therapy now and I have communicated all of this to his therapist. This is straight facts, hold the crying child.. no matter how often, or if you are having a bad week. All they need is to feel safe and valid.
I wish you could love him most now because he has beared a lot because of you I wish him a speedy recovery and hails to your acknowledgement about the cause
I am guilty too. Had my first son young and I struggled. I was left in crippling pain for 2yrs from the birth and couldn't bond with him at first. I left him to cry far too much. So yeah the first couple of yrs I struggled. I loved him dearly and as he grew I nurtured him more and more. He was very very spoilt. But I did not repeat this with my other children and the difference between them is vast. Nobody is prepared for how hard motherhood is, especially when you're young and not ready. I also didn't have the best upbringing.
@shelleyscott4332 Psychology kinda nails it with statistics. The right conditions, plenty of relaxed time for eye contact, play, smiles means, in both the animal kingdom and for us: healthier development; intelligence, immune function, healthy weight, strength, focus, longevity. All these are compromised with a stressed mother or parent. Knowing this, and reflecting upon it, the temptation is to make up for things. It's all we've got left. However, realising that Ernest desire to make up for things, can also result in suffocation through protection. One thing I learnt was the pseudo science suggests that when a child hugs us, or we hug a child, to wait for them to release, then release. That way they know they can have contact and security for as long as they need it. It's not about us, though it's the warmest connection that we are wired to have. But they learn they can have 2 seconds, 2 minutes, or however much of our undivided attention and love they need. The best to you friend.
I got diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid and ended up on Ritalin but it didn’t help at all in fact it made me a more aggressive and moody child who ended expelled from schools and eventually I ended up in youth detention and prison. My mum was 17 when she had me and was a single mum for the most part and I really don’t blame my mum in the sense that she was a kid herself but now I’m starting to feel the lack of a strong male role model on top of having a young mum who clearly wasn’t ready and spent more time talking to her friends and getting babysitters so she could party which always ended up with me playing by myself and now i realise I was just a sensitive kid who would of benefitted from a strong family unit who were ready for parenthood. This is why these days with my children I always put emphasis on how much attention I show them because wether a parent likes it or not kids need a lot of attention, time and love if they’re going to succeed in this world. I’m like 38 now and look back at all the years wasted due to me not being able to handle my emotions properly but there’s always hope to better yourself and try not to make the same mistakes your parents might of made. Learning from our bad experiences then turning the bad into something positive for others is how i can look back and know that the shit I went through wasn’t all in vain.
Sounds like you had too high a dose and Methylphendidate was not the right med for you. And I wrote a longer comment somewhere here in the new ones and explained my stance to this video. Sadly, it's not a positive one. I recommend info from actual people researching it etc. (Dr. Faraone, who has it, Dr. Hallowell who has it as well and Dr. Barkely who lost 2 of his relatives/his brother due to it and did the most research). It's also NOT just about medication and medicating people to become worker bees. I wish he also taked about neurotransmitters etc. So much of this is harmful and not empowering. And trauma can make ADHD etc. worse, but doesn't generally cause it. I got mine from oxygen deprivation at birst or from my enlarged tonsils, afaik. Then there's other stuff that can cause it or even traumatic brain injuries can cause those symptoms. It's all due to neurotransmitter issues, the frontal lobe, basal ganglia and some other stuff. I wish that would've been said ...
Sorry you went through all of that. And it pretty much sums up what he said about adhd being environmental, than being a disease etc. because you were ignored as a child that’s how you coped sue to the emotional disparity you were thrown into. I wouldn’t feel bad about it. It’s not your fault. But just continue to grow as a human being and break cycles. That’s the best thing you can for yourself and those around you. I have to break my own as well.
You have to feel to heal. Develop curiosity of what happening to you: body sensations, thoughts, feelings and beliefs. Here are some tools to help: journaling (free), meditation, spending time in nature/with animals, breath work, ethical body workers, EMDR, fasting, therapy with a sane/effective therapist, micro-dosing psychedelics, art therapy, dance therapy, music/shamanic drumming, etc.
I love Gabor Maté, he really knows what he's talking about. His podcast on Tim Ferris' show was incredibly insightful, because you could watch Tim have one revelation after another. Nothing as complicated as understanding yourself!
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@@leighannf.4730 Definitely Ferris (as mentioned) and Russell Brand, because you have two "uninitiated" people who honestly try to be better human beings and really attain vital knowledge during the conversation. Other than that I recommend watching the documentary Wisdom of Trauma. He talks to terminally ill people, some of whom survived their diagnosed death sentence, just because they finally understood what made them sick.
I wish I could give this Doctor a hug. I need the ADHD meds for school and currently managing Life. But what he is saying about the children makes me tear up. In another video he is saying to limit the electronics. He puts things into perspective very well.
As someone who recently experienced their first panic attack at 37 years old, I am happy to see anxiety spoken about. I am also glad Gabor countered Joe on his thoughts with regards to anxiety. A panic attack is the scariest thing I've ever experienced medically, and physiologically I was absolutely fine. I sincerely thought I was about to die, and my firing off all these signals to confirm my thoughts. Genuinely felt like I couldn't get enough oxygen in my lungs when breathing, thought I was having a heart attack, thought I was going to pass out, etc. Called an ambulance and they hooked me up to an EKG, checked my BP and O2 in my blood, did a blood sugar test, etc. -- absolutely nothing wrong.
Me too. I have had panic disorder since 13yrs old. Anxiety can be changed with thought, exercise, and stress control but it can be transformed into panic attacks if untreated. Sometimes we are subconscious about stress. Yes, its environmental, but I do think brain connection is still important.
"What you teach them is that the world is not available that they are alone and that they're helpless" that is so true. That is exactly what anxiety feels like and I'm sure as Gabor mentions that it is a formula for creating anxiety and an anxious Society.
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Joe is speaking from ignorance about anxiety--- I'd like to drop him off at the top of a 1000ft tower from a helicopter and tell him not to be scared, and that your anxiety isn't real. People who have never had it don't understand that you feel the same anxiety as if you were on top of that 1000ft tower, even if it's irrational-- you can't control the fact that you feel it so strongly. You certainly can't just turn it off in the moment by thinking happier thoughts.
@@calholli yeah. Anxiety is real and sucks. I deal with anxiety and panic attacks and from what I know not many people get to feel this immense feeling of impending doom.
Ever since medicine became a business instead of a service people got more sick and dependent on drugs. The work Gabor is doing is spectacular, God bless him. Thank you for giving us the understanding of how our bodies and minds works back. 🙏
The issue here is ADHD isn't a disease, it's just a quirk some people have The issue is not the drugs, but the way those drugs are used ADHD doesn't need a fix, but using drugs mimics the way an otherwise normal brain could function I guess my point here is that drugs do work, it just depends on how they're used. Like depression. Depression needs drugs because the brain is not working right ADHD on the other hand is not a deficiency but a quirk. It's all case by case. Nothing general.
@@kisu_ve625 so even if it can be done without drugs, forget the effort, take them and end up dependant and fucked by side effects? I see, now I understand
This guy is amazing. I also stopped taking my medication because I have to live with the hope that my brain can change and that I don’t need to be dependent on medication to have a fulfilling life. The medication really depersonalised me, like a work zombie with no emotion. Was useful for what I needed it for, but hurts every other aspect of life.
My foster child has ADHD. I was against medicating him but after i saw his behaviour NOT on his concerta i agreed he needed it. He was unable to regulate his (over) reactions. And this was years after he moved into our home. He's happy, secure and loved. But still needs his meds. Each child is individual.
Amen.. I have adhd and anxiety and I wasn't medicated until I was 40 years old. I struggled my whole life to function and when I finally took medicine then my whole life turned around and I'm graduating from university this month. You really cannot speak from someone else's experience especially when it's concerning mental health. What doesn't help one person may save someone else's life.
Think about what Dr. Gabor is saying; it’s parental stress that wasn’t handled when the child was young and the fight/flight/ freeze/ make friends survival mechanism is heightened all the time. You’re his foster parent, his childhood what hyper-stressful and his survival instinct is on 1000% because he can’t trust his own parents and he has to trust a stranger? Then he has to be medicated for it? Unconditional Love x forgiveness x time is what children need.
@@TheGeneralSoundwave I do agree with him about what may cause this.. and it may have nothing to do with the foster parent. But I tried absolutely everything for 40 years and it never helped me at all until I found medicine. He says he doesn't advocate against medicine because for some people it works well. I do believe that it's over used. But it's not always the wrong approach. If I had been medicated then maybe I would've gotten my degree when I was 22 instead of 48.
This entire clip resonated with me so much. I was diagnosed adhd, ptsd, anxiety and panic attack disorder. I don’t believe anxiety is a chemical imbalance but more of a trauma response. I too felt feelings of abandonment from early child hood which resulted in anxiety in my early 20s. I have made extreme changes and progress as a sufferer med free.
Anxiety is neither a chemical imbalance nor a trauma response. Anxiety is completely normal. Anxiety disorders are medical conditions requiring medical treatment.
I hope this episode has the most views and comments of any JRE of all time. This is the best content I’ve heard on the show, ever. This is great. Gabor is a “hero” of mine. Has helped me understand what the fuck was wrong with me with great clarity and compassion. Honestly, Gabor is the mental health GOAT. Gotta be. I’m reading his new book right now. The introduction alone was fucking profound. And this book is so thick! I didn’t expect that but I’m so glad it is. Blessings and healing to all on the journey of healing and unraveling from past trauma.
I was diagnosed ADHD some yrs ago, I have found that the doggie has had a beneficial effect on me as I try to ensure I don’t get frustrated or angry and scare him, I try to be calm when he’s around and not over react to external situations also when I do the dog at times he has run to me to seemingly distract me with his presence, he’s amazing
Im 25 and got diagnosed with ADHD when i was 11 or 12. A psychiatrist prescribed me with ritalin 400mg. It was crazy strong and would make me dizzy and nauseous. I decided to not take it anymore. Nowadays i can see that they where trying to control me, and the could achieve this making me feel victimized that i had a mental issue that would make me different. I dropped out of 3 college careers. At 22 i finally found what i love to do, and i have so much focus when im learning it. Im a full time car mechanic now. And im so happy that i kept so much focus naturally through my apprentice years, and i keep learning every day. I learned to live with it and remind myself constantly to be present and not in the clouds. Its just a matter of what catches your attention. The traditional school got old now hopefully there will be better schooling in the future.
@@Quintehn what excited you as a kid? What did you dream about when there was no reason to think it wouldn’t happen? If you could have anything, be anyone, what and who would it be? If none of those work; who do you respect and admire the most in the world, and why? is it what they do, how they do it, why, or perhaps some other quality you can see that I don’t…? Answer these questions, and then answer the question, “when and why did I stop believing my dreams can come true?” You can design a plan to build toward whatever you want to be, whatever you want to do, and even if you never fully get there, just having your days be filled with effort being invested back into your authentic self, knowing that you are going somewhere and are not idle, and is at the least doing their very best how they know best… This has been working for me, and in fact just asking myself these questions, truly asking and truly answering, has changed my life. I think most of people problems actually lie in their minds, in their thought patterns, and bringing a spotlight to that along with the IRS-energy (a full accounting of every nut and bolt across the infinitude of your mind) I’ve solved, or disolved, many of my own neuroticisms, anxiety, depression, meaninglessness, ennui. Realize your life is better simple, grounded in what’s real and important to you-even if that’s just your family, or just the interests you had from being a child. There’s something there, in all of that, look inside yourself, look into your child self, find out what’s in there and the dreamer that used to be. All the greats say that’s how they channel it 🤷♂️ the inner kid in them… it’s not some weird immature shit, it’s the genesis of life, creativity, vision… When we’re young is when we’re most in touch with this freedom of the mind and TRUE INTUITION about how we personally interface with the world. Oh and 🍄’s. I owe like 60% credit to them at least, and they allowed and sometimes forced me to see myself and be real with myself about what I am, what I am not, and what I’m pretending to be. It didn’t show me the way, it made the way obvious to see. There’s an undeniable sense of becoming deeply intouch with the child in you, the most innocent authentic part of your minds eye, and it feels like you remember how you used to see the world when you could escape the harshness into your imagination, your dreams of what could really be ✨💭 This is getting long, but I think that’s the essence. Hold on to that, don’t ever let it go, if you can find it again. That’s the spark, the dream that keeps and has always kept humanity alive. You’ll realize it’s all you have, and therefore all you need. There’s something about being a child that is inherently psychedelic to me, or perhaps the other way round that psychedelics regain childlike wisdom, or ignorance, to see the world fresh and real.. but either the way the point is that you must hold on to and nurture that spark within you, and honor it as real. ❤
I have experienced a nephew with debilitating anxiety. It is like the difference between being depressed and being clinically depressed. I know things like inattention and anxiety seem like things we all deal with but some people have it at a whole other level. There are definately ways to improve it on your own but you have to have the will to do it
@@dillonroach4078 you are describing something typical. Some people have WAY off of typical experiences with anxiety and things like depression and inattention. That is the thing Joe doesn't seem to believe exists.
@@AlexA-ko8lu I've found its something that is hard to understand until you've really seen someone in that like manic anxiety state. It almost needs its own word, because everyone can feel anxious but not everyone really suffers from "anxiety"
@@AlexA-ko8lu Joe has a problem relating to things he hasn't experienced. He does this with a lot of things. It's funny because Joe shows a lot of signs of ADHD lol Maybe he's in denial and doesn't want to acknowledge it. But for a lot of people it's hard to imagine that the anxiety they experience and overcame, can be easily the same for someone else. I didn't understand it much until I developed severe mental health issues in my late teens which led me in an out of psych wards for the next decade. It really is an invisible disease that we need to learn to believe and acccept those who claim they are having issues. It's quite frankly immature and narrow minded to act like these things are made up or people are faking it.
I was also diagnosed as an adult. I was relieved. Suddenly my whole childhood made sense. It's crazy to see how many people went through the same thing.
I’ve had adhd and hyperactivity all my life and I have never……ever heard anyone explain it to me like that before. I’m exactly what this Doc is saying. Just brilliant I’m a changed man. Thank you both so much.❤️
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Adhd feels powerful, overwhelming. Imagine being able to control it, its like the best focus, energy levels i've ever had in life when it comes to stressful scenarios, especially at work.
There is a difference between having anxiety and having an anxiety disorder. I've suffered with anxiety, specifically social anxiety, all my life. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder at 18. In the last two years I'd say my anxiety has been the worst it's ever been. It's gotten to the point where I'm genuinely depressed with life every day. Suffering with an anxiety disorder is like having something hold you back from doing anything. It's not the same as being anxious briefly because of an event that recently happened in someone's life. In my case, my mind puts me off from having the confidence to go out and do things. I don't want to stay in all the time, but anyone who knows what I'm talking about will understand how it stops you from enjoying life and it's not the same as "generic" anxiety. or nervousness that people generally get.
I agree, I have been dealing with anxiety my whole life and it definitely puts a mental "wall" up when it comes to engaging in activities. I really have a hard time going out and doing anything unless I'm doing it with others I'm close with, almost to ride their coat tails.
I hear you. It's a horrible situation to be in, you want desperately to feel okay and connect with others, but feel as if you are unable to. The more you force it and try, the harder the wall is. You should know that this is more common than you think and your body is reacting in the only way it knows how to - being anxious. It's okay to feel this way.
Could it be possible that you've developed anxiety as a defence mechanism is response to far more stimuli than the average person? What i mean is that what you have may not be different to the average person, just more severe. For example, someone might develop a response of anger in certain specific situations(stimuli), but a person who you may say has 'anger management issues' has developed anger as a response to many different stimuli, or it's their go to response in most stressful situations. If this is true in your case, then the cause of, and potential solution to your anxiety may be the same. Recognizing it's a coping mechanism that served a purpose in a whole host of situations at some point in your life but at this stage in your adult life it has become debilitating. Forgive me if I've misunderstood your condition. But, if you agree to a point with anything I've said I recommend a book called 'Fear' by Thich Nhat Hanh, it's a free audiobook on Spotify.
That’s not true. If a kid is raised in a family where the parents solve all the kids problems, they are much less likely to be independent. However, if the parents force the kid to deal with their problems on their own, you get an independent kid.
I got diagnosed with ADHD at age 28, and proceeded to get an Adderall prescription. The stillness of the mind I had after my first dose was crazy. It showed me what people wanted me to be all my life. I couldn’t handle the side effects, so I stopped taking it about a year ago. But I still remember the feeling of that stillness, the quieting of the storm. I know what to try to train myself towards now, where before I had no concept of how I was different, or what I need to do to perform like my peers.
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I needed to watch this today. Disheartened Mental Health Nurse, I feel like my sanity is slipping as I watch community mental health teams replace community. People become patients. Lithium for loneliness and ECT for unspoken trauma. I used to believe I could live by my values, help, do a bit of good in a sick system but I realise that I’m part of the problem. I feel a spark of something in me when Gabor and Joe speak about symptoms as symptoms and not seek to pathologise people. I highly recommend Gabor Mate’s books: ‘Hold on to your Kids’ and ‘When the body says no’ I also recommend ‘What happened to you’ by Bruce Perry. I truly believe that if we put down the DSM and pick up our children and engage them, we may get somewhere. Perhaps somewhere with natural lighting and limited wifi… I feel like we are moving in a really dangerous direction where we are are all going to be patients and not people. I recommend engaging with Stephen Illardi’s work on depression and inflammation and watch the HSP documentary ‘Sensitive: the untold Story’ too. These symptoms are all real, people need help, I don’t deny that. I sit with ‘patients’ everyday, watching the light fade in their eyes as we talk ‘Meds, CBT, caters, protective factors…’ I feel like Elliot in ET when he has the urge to let all the animals free from the science experiments…I do not believe our current ways are helpful. Mixing private health and mental health is interesting to me. It’s a business, health funds do not apply rewards for favoured outcomes. It relies on patients being patients. More conversations like this please. It gives me hope as I often wonder if I’ve actually sold my soul to the devil as I walk the wards.
I too have been in the mental institutions all my life, I and out, in hindsight now I realize it was all trauma based even before I got there in my twenties, ADD as a youngster and very different so much so that I was ostracized, actually lost my gran, who raised me, tragically when I was 13 and went on to study in the Arts and agriculture. I'm a highly sensitive, intuitive and analytical woman who loves art, horses, fashion and mostly a deep deep compassion, love and respect for my native relatives in South Africa where I live. It's frustrating to witness the unjust treatment of people just because no one has the time, enery or inclination to try and understand the people. One being me. God has always honored me where I have no monetary need and my ministry is to bless people with what God leads me to give. I do however live with a debilitating high functioning mental nightmare. I believe the medications I'm forced to take, make things worse. I pray someone would help me before the drugs take me out all together. Dr Gabor is such a blessing!!
Im a psychologist and can relate deeply to your situation. Take care dear friend. It warms my heart when I think of all the loving interactions I know you have provided to the fellow beings in your care. I know this because with your understanding it would be too difficult not to treat others accordingly to the best of your ability. I know that you are not perfect, but nor is anyone. The organization and culture we find ourselves in is an incredibly powerful influence on our behavior. My intuition is that these true interactions will be remembered and held onto as a island of hope and love and fuel for seeking true healing. The heart knows when it is seen by another, even if the mind is not conscious. It is my understanding that these encounters are what allows us to see through the phony business end that turns people into numbers and keep searching for truth. You are such an important force in the world. Please do whatever you need to feel peace and happiness. Wherever and however feels true for you. These words are easy to say to another. I need them as well. It is so incredibly painful to have an open heart and mind in a shut down culture that neglects open wounds on our fellow beings. That pathologizes coping and longing for truth. I have often felt like a fraud and an accomplice myself. It is only natural that such thoughts and feelings would occur in a sick environment no? I do think that every meeting is meaningful and the very act of seeing the horror of it all without turning away is where change begins. I have found that crying and allowing it to really break my heart, has led to healing. Since the openness to the truth is already there, it is mainly the halfway stage of arguing with the dark aspects of reality that keeps me stuck. Stuck in self blame, critisism, depression, hopelessness etc. If I can take in the truth of the loss of what I thought the world was, I can grieve. This is when my heart has opened up to feel compassion for it all. When not struggling with how it is because I have felt it, I am free to see all the nuanced beauty of the people doing their best. To, like Fred Rogers mother said to him when he was a child whenever a great disaster struck "look for the people helping". This of course is a process, and I often feel the weight as too much to bear. As if we are all falling hopelessly into a more and more dystopian society where truth is fiction and love is only seen in movies. I know in my heart this is not true though. Because all around me people are waking up. I see your post and I know I am not alone. It has only been a short time since we understood the effects of trauma and manu other fundamentals of being human. I have faith that our culture is wrestling with itself in order to change, just as an individual develops through conflict, dissonance and chrisis. Integration takes time and I know that it is happening because you and I are part of it. We are exchanging perspectives across the world (Im in Sweden) that influence our actions in vast systems. The internet connects all our minds. When two minds in a network talk about these matters, ripples flow through the "global mind". Rogan reaches millions and millions. They in turn even more. The truth is impossible to conceal for long.
@@vaenskapelsen David, thank-you. Thank-you for taking the time to reply and articulating so beautifully what I am struggling to put words to. I never comment on videos and I’m so pleased I did (tired in both mind and soul at 2 am this morning in Australia…) You have brought me hope and faith, something that has been in short supply recently. As a UK trained Mental Health Nurse my biggest concerns were once waiting times and people not making it to the help due to an under resourced NHS. In Australia with a large private system I am scared that they are subjected to quicker help that may be more harmful then helpful. 22 years ago as I entered healthcare, I worried that I was too sensitive to sit with peoples trauma but I can say for sure that has never been the case. Im not burned out by peoples narratives, I’m scared of our systems and my role within it. Your words have brought me great comfort. I am truly grateful. Knowing that there are people like you in all corners of the earth seeking to serve with authenticity and integrity. Thank-you so very much David.
@@reneedwards1082 I pray that you continue to be blessed and that this nightmare you describe is healed. Thank-you for sharing your some of your experiences . Your sensitive soul sounds like it has served you with your art and agriculture. I wish you a truly blessed week ahead. It’s heartening to see conversations like this. I’m glad I stayed up later and took the time to watch.
@@lorib786 You are most welcome dear Lori. Your thoughtful response brought a smile to my face and Im truly grateful to see that my words had this effect. Im also grateful of your intitial comment that moved me to write them. Even this seemingly small exchange strengthens the influence of what is already known in my heart, but often forgotten by my mind: That we are in this together. As soon as I recognize this on a feeling level, I know that it is only when this is forgotten that I act "selfishly". And that this also must be the same for others. That makes me happy and forgiving of myself and others. I struggle as well with the exact same concerns. I am new to the profession and it can be very disheartening to enter the field now. At the same time I can see beauty in the fact that this deep concern is there. It shows that we are not dead to or willing to accept a mcdonalds version of love, truth and care. It may take a painful form at times such as a nagging self doubt, anger etc. But that is just our wisdom recognizing what needs our attention by raising the volume in our psyche. Once recognized, we can begin to take steps to adress the issue. Perhaps by airing our concerns in a group of likeminded colleagues, joining protests or just finding others with similar views whom we can explore possible small (or big) actions that lead our own lives towards adressing what hurts in a wise and loving way. I sometimes get grand ideas about how to start systemic change, but that doesnt necessarily have to be even part of it. Just recognizing the importance of looking a patient truly in the eye with compassion or listening to a colleague that needs it can be more than enough. Then, the very same energy that torments us by worry or doubt etc. can be freed up to enact a happy loving change moment by moment. I know of incredibly small moments where colleagues or friends half saved my life by simply truly listening to me when I needed it. The podcast "kind world" taught me a lot about the power of small acts of kindness and gave me a lot of faith. Listened to all episodes twice haha. Anyways.. Thank you for this exchange. I think I needed to say these things for us both. Much love, David
I love this perspective. Hearing this honesty for the first time helps me a lot and I hope others who experience the same are able to listen and take something valuable from this as well.
My ADHD went away with low dose SSRI's which I avoided taking my entire life. But I found something that turned off my ocd/ anxiety for a bit and that allowed my brain to focus
I share the dr’s perspective on crying babies. I was the primary care taker for my nephew. I just tried to communicate to him energetically that he didn’t need to stress. He could trust that what he needed or even wanted he could get. Because as adults we spend so much time trying to heal those circuits of mistrust in the world because it was programmed into us as babies and children. His parents were less attentive and the result was that when I was there he was less prone to crying, tantrums and outbursts. If I’d leave for a while when I came back he would freak out when he thought he wasn’t going to get his way. When his needs were consistently met he was more capable at 1.5-2 of accepting something he initially didn’t want. I could explain and reason with him because he knew I was on his team and I almost always say yes.
@@simonshotter8960 absolutely lol you feel judged? It’s a comment I tried to keep as brief as possible and left a lot out. Basically his mother breast fed him and gave him back to me every day of his life for the first 8 mos to begin with. But who cared for him and was attentive wasn’t the point. The point was when he felt comfortable that someone 1) understood his needs 2) that they would be met, the child was calmer and less prone to tantrums.
@@TheMoonDejesus I’m just saying from personal experience, being the mate who pops round to play is a fuck ton easier than being the person who has the actual responsibility. My son for instance loves my best mate because he pours it on him.. my best mate however doesn’t have to work day night day shifts to keep the house going, food on the table and all the new stuff he needs buying. Sometimes that stuff takes it out of you so much there isn’t much left. Especially when both parents have to work too.
That makes a lot of sense, but I also have experience with children being unreasonable with their needs. Wanting to do things that are dangerous or wrong, and when you intervene they obviously get upset. How can you form that bond of trust that you will usually say yes and meet their needs when young kids have a hard time deciding healthy needs
This is one of the most valuable videos on UA-cam, ever. Made me cry because It described my life, my family. Thank you Joe and Dr. Gabor, from my heart.
I was the classic ADHD kid. I was also Dyslexic. And my environment growing up was tough. But in the 80’s no one knew what was was up. When I was diagnosed in my mid 30’s I was led to believe I was broken. That I had a disease. The meds worked. But the side effects were bad. Turns out, I can do much the same with caffeine and good quality food and intermittent fasting. Now I work part time with kids at an alternative school. And the sad bit is so many of tHese kids use the diagnosis as an excuse for bad behavior. The diagnosis is not the explanation for their response to their environment. At all. The best expiation for all this for me is that I am a super sensitive person. And the fact is, this is a gift. A real gift.
Before the 1980s it was called minimal brain disorder. It’s been studied for a very long time. I’ve seen psych/educational videos for teachers from the 60s and they knew then how to deal with us. Most teachers don’t have the inclination or time.
As someone who has ADHD and MANY family members undiagnosed, I have to say this is an unkind and opinion based take on what can be a life-changing medical condition. I used to be very anti medicine. I think we need to be open to all the possibilities. Growing up without medication, undiagnosed, uncared for, this condition impacted my life so negatively. My relationships suffered. I was depressed. I felt unsuccessful. I had no confidence. No matter how hard I tried I failed because my brain just couldn’t stay where I was. It wandered, always. I see my children now and I think to myself, how can I help them to feel successful, have the best relationships, and grow up to have the best life possible? I can’t close my eyes to the fact that they might need help and I think that that is when my eyes were opened and I had to eat my words. I think every case is different and I think everyone is entitled to the best life possible . That may look very different from person to person, but out of kindness, never say never.
Agreed. I think some people hear the traits or ADHD and think, “Oh, I’ve done that.” But they have no idea what it’s like to have a brain with severe AHDH. It’s like you’re running in circles your whole life to no destination. And watching everyone else have passions, drive, hobbies, and motivation makes you feel inhuman.
This is similar to me i just kept self medicating tho drinking weed and drugs going sober going to the gym eating clean then going back to drinking and weed im tired of going in circles nothing worked but now i got help from a professional and im starting to realize all my problems in my head on what im taking now having no confidence not thinking logically and letting my emotions control me.
Crazy how two people can listen to the exact same thing and get two totally different ideas of what was said in a conversation. Did he once say he was anti medication?
@@bearbear8191he actually said he wasn't anti medication and took the medications himself. I'm currently medicated and I can see what he is saying the medication helps the symptom, but does not cure the underlying cause. If we can prevent the underlying cause, in the future maybe less people will have these issues.
Makes me incredibly happy seeing more of Gabor Maté on very public facing podcasts. His work made a world of difference when I cleaned up years ago - helped me truly understand myself and human beings in general through his books and lectures. One of the best in his field, hands down. Breaks it down to a simple science.
I am 32 and have suffered depression/anxiety for as long as I can remember. I have been on and off medication, most recently for a few years. Anxiety really came and hit me hard in the last year, with panic attacks so debilitating I would be crying for my mother. I could not go to work. I felt no choice but to relent and go to the doctor who prescribed me Zoloft. My anxiety has decreased massively but I can't help but feel numb now, almost like a zombie going through the motions of every day life - but at least I'm not having panic attacks eh. Modern living and namely media really grinds down the soul, you may not notice it at first but it takes a big part of you. Healthy eating and exercise is now what keeps me going and sometimes feels like all I have in life. For anyone who can relate, you are not alone and there is hope.
Thank u av been going through major anxiety and panics for many years it cripples me mentally and struggle to get through days at times am on medication n just makes me numb
Hey R D, thanks for sharing. I also suffer from anxiety and ADHD and I use exercise to help and it does. But also try spirituality and mysticism (sufi songs and meditation). I'm Muslim so I engage the Muslim sufis
Tell your doctor if you are having zombie like side effects from your medication. It could be from something else or he or she could try a different medication that might work better for you - there are many alternatives available now. At any rate, let your doctor know.
Gabor is one of my favorite humans! I actually emailed the JRE booker, Matt Staggs about having Gabor on few years ago. I'm sure my email was lost in a sea of many others but I'm just so glad to see it happened!
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Speaking for myself. I was put on ADHD medication in 9th grade and was told I had a 66th percentile IQ. When I graduated in grade 12 my IQ was in the 90th percentile. ADHD medication has profoundly benefited my life
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I have ADHD, I'm positive it's always been here. I'm 28 medicated as of a few months ago. I am back in school, doing better in life. More time in the gym. I'm glad I was NOT medicated as a kid. Because now I have coping skills + the help of the medication. Do I wish I explored it earlier in my 20's sure. But so glad I was not medicated as a kid.
Agreed. Got medicated at age 24, my child def present similar symptoms but I will not medicate her unless she is a teenager at the youngest and she specifically asks me to do it because she is struggling.
@@GreyGooseNWO if it stressed you out / gave you anxiety you probably don't have ADHD (absolutely common to *fake* a disorder when your brain convinces you you have it.) Or the medication dose was not high enough. I take adderal but my advise would be really have a long talk about goals with your THERAPIST/PHYCI! Do not go see your primary Dr about any mental illness medication, some are above average Dr's most are average and know about them and how the medication works but don't have experience with it. I started at 5 MG that wasn't enough for me we found 15 was better we think it's due to my muscle mass size / metabolism I eat 5 meals a day following old school body building so dose and medication is per person. My phy said the correct dose is when you increase to the point you can't sleep at night then pull it back a little bit so you can sleep. Kinda like overclocking a PC push it until it crashes then pull it back to where it's stable. Hope that helps and I wish you luck.
Basically. I got medicated in high school and had a similar experience. When I wAs medicated as a child I had no say or any clue what was happening. I was stimmed tf out and they would raise my dose even more. I think that’s the biggest problem with medicating kids
Dr. Mate’s commentary is a spot-on description of dissociation as an adaptation. There is no doubt that dissociation is often carelessly misdiagnosed as ADHD. Dissociation and ADHD are not synonymous, however. To the best of my knowledge, there is no discussion of ADHD here. Rather there is a very serious misrepresentation which names ADHD and then presents a thoughtful representation of dissociative adaptations. If the intent here is to inform (rather than create confusion), one might consider being more discerning. “A small error, if left uncorrected, soon grows to great proportion” - from Aristotle’s Metaphysics
This guy pretty much summed up my entire life. I had a rough childhood. I was a juvenile delinquents and a product of parents he very well describes. I ended up seeing a variety of shrinks and much like he said they all tried to put the problems off on me being a defective child but I was simply reacting to my living environment. Its taken me fifty years to get to a spot where my anxiety is down and i can start to function. its largely a product of setting myself up financiall to where I'm not forced to interact with people.
If you find this information useful you might want to check out my content on Autism (I resolved the question of what IT and other conditions such as ADHD are all about years ago). I think you might benefit.
I am 27 and have an assessment for ADHD in a few hours. Glad I watched this! I always had a feeling it was a direct reflection of what I experienced in childhood.
I had a lot of trauma as a little kid and my whole life has been riddled with bad impulse decisions. I don't really wanna be medicated and this insight kinda helps.
I was diagnosed with ADHD. And this guy is spot on. It's nuts. Adderall has been amazing. But he's right the coping no longer works for me. But I'm almost 40.
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I was diagnosed with autism and add as a kid, and later developed maladaptive daydreaming. Adhd meds worked wonders for me, and I wish it wasn't so hard to get prescribed. I'd still be on it. I was so much more motivated and capable of persuing my goals.
I was always academically gifted, However easily distracted and had a short attention span. Diagnosed with ADHD, and was given ritalin. Made me feel like a robot, completely emotionless, lost all my appetite, and became extremely suicidal which led to being given more medication. When I turned 16 I chose to take myself off meds, although it’s been a struggle I feel a lot better. I wouldn’t wish what I went through on anyone. Being told there is something wrong with you and stuffed with chemicals which you have no clue what it’s doing to you. It’s criminal. I went from an energetic, sociable kid to being a miserable adult.
On the flip side I was an energetic sociable kid until my ADHD made me too anxious, and unable to function in a school setting. I became the complete opposite of social and energetic. Now at the age of 25 I'm finally seeing a doctor and being officially diagnosed and getting put on meds for the first time I can actually function again.
Did you tell anyone how you felt on the meds? Because not every ADHD medication is the same and so occasionally you’ll get side effects with one that you wouldn’t get with another. Now that doesn’t mean you have to use medication if you don’t want to ofc but did you at least try other ones?
One of thee most smart and empathetic episodes of Joe Rogan I’ve ever watched. Wish JR had more guests like this and less “feelings aren’t facts” types. Actual intelligence and expertise, not opinionated biased political BS. Cheers Dr. Gabor 👏🏻👏🏻
@@Theendman42 The entire fields of psychiatry and psychology are feelings based, they are not scientific fields. Psychiatric drugs only work as much as placebo effect. As long as people discuss them as personal experiences and not hard cold facts, it's fine. Because the human brain is extremely plastic, plastic methods sometimes work.
@@tallard666 " Psychiatric drugs only work as much as placebo effect." what an idiotic blank statement. Also utter nonsense .I'm not recommending it but take an anti psychotic and see if its a placebo. You would see how stupid your statement was. Or observe someone who is off their antipsychotic for 3-7 days , watch as they change and become unable to even function.
@@tallard666 Your correct that when it comes to the brain, it's not a one size fits all solution, especially when it comes to recovering from trauma for instance. People can vary in what they're receptive to, it's not like physics where you can drop a ball into water at an exact point with an exact amount of force and create the same splash everytime. However the brain is still very much so a physical thing. Psychology is far more observational and opinion based, yes, but that's also what we got neuroscience for. To measure the brain and it's activity and responses.
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I was recently diagnosed with ADHD, the year after I finished college. Once I got on meds, my entire world changed. Next thing you know, I was cleaning my room, cleaning my car, prioritizing tasks, putting one foot in front of the other. There were three things that amazed me though. 1. The world became so much quieter. I used to get so overwhelmed by all the noise in the world, it would literally drive me nuts and make me very very irritable. Everything quieted down somehow. 2. Reading became immensely easier. I would struggle to read one book for a class, but now, I can sit for a solid hour and read. I have never been able to do this before. 3. My circadian rhythms (sleep cycle) became more regulated. Somehow my body started to realize, “Hey, you’re tired by the way, in case you didn’t notice.” And so the hours of me staying up for hours and hours started to fade. I could actually feel my body getting tired, which made falling asleep much easier. Nothing happened overnight of course, but I’m very happy to say that my life is now headed in the right direction where I can prioritize my goals and follow through. It’s not like I didn’t have goals before, but the ability to follow through without getting distracted or losing focus was completely new to me. It was crazy for me to realize that a lot of people can actually just sit down and read a book.
I know the feeling mate. I got diagnosed at 20 but only took treatment seriously at 25. My whole life has changed. It’s crazy how similar the symptoms and stories between people with undiagnosed ADHD are. I hate all the misinformation around ADHD.
I'm the opposite of ADHD, but I'm a MAGNET for people who struggle with ADHD : my best friend of 30 years. Girlfriends. Co-workers. Neighbors. I can sit for 6 or 7 seven hours, 6 days a week reading, studying, (I went to medical school) planning, following through on whatever is on my mind. (One year I built an entire GHOSTBUSTER backpack for halloween one year: it light up and everything). Similarly, when people talk to me, I hardly say anything until they're done talking. Then I ask, like ONE question, and let them answer it, so I can understand better. (1)My big question to you, is how do you VIEW people like me who can sit for hours and read? You said it was crazy. Do you NOT BELIEVE that people can sit for hours, if I told you I did? Me and a friend saw Fight Club on a friday. I loved it so much, when i saw my friend on Monday, I told him I read the book this weekend and couldnt wait to fill him in on some back story. This guy TOTALLY didnt believe me. He thought I just made some extrapolations from the movie and tried to argue with me with his opinion. ***it's not an opinion....i. read. the. book. ** But later, realized that he didnt think i could read the book IN A WEEKEND. That was the part that was unbelievable to him....the focus it takes to read a whole book in a day and a half. (3)If I wrote a book (I did: it took me one year and one week to finish).....would you think that i cranked it out in just a few hours, or whatever? What is your view on the creation of things that HAVE TO take hours and hours of focus? Like what do you think of a Swiss watchmaker? Or a pathologist, who stares in a microscope all day, looking for cancer cells among regular ones? I imagine it might be like how i view ARTISTS....I'm a scientist, by training, so the ability to look at a piece of metal and sculpt it into beautiful modern art seems like utter MAGIC to me. (2)My other question to you is....are your close friends like me? Does ADHD lead you to quiet people who listen and keep their opinion to themselves?
I feel like you just wrote my experience. Thank you for sharing. I got diagnosed 2 years ago in my 40s. My mom saved every one of my report cards. Took those into my psychiatrist and took several tests and found out I slipped through the cracks and was clearly ADHD. I got medicated and worked with an ADHD coach and my life has done a total 180 in every area. I'm a better friend, partner, and employee. I remember to do the mundane boring things you need to do daily like basic hygiene and being tidy around the house. Chores are second nature. Tasks that involve executive function aren't overwhelming. I listen to people without the urge to finish their sentences. My sleep hygiene has improved. I rarely feel anxious. I no longer impulse buy. I pay my bills on time. I wish people wouldn't stigmatize stimulant medication for ADHD. It has saved people's lives. I almost got in a car accident the other day because I forgot my medication and was driving distracted. I no longer drink alcohol because I'm not interested. I'm so thankful for my diagnosis and finding the right medication to help my brain stop working against itself so I could become the person who I knew I was.
@@slchance8839 1. No no, I definitely believe you can do it. I personally struggled very hard with reading. However, after receiving treatment, I was able to read with greater concentration. It surprised me that everyone (in general) can sit there and read a book. I was finally operating at the level of concentration where I could read a book, and was stunned at the fact that it’s probably this effortless for most people. I’m not surprised by people who can read for long periods, I’m surprised how effortless it is for people without adhd. 3. The ability to crank something out in a couple hours is very familiar to me. As I’ve done my research on adhd, procrastination is something that is very common for people with adhd. Most likely due to the fact that things like studying can be severely under stimulating, in terms of stimulating things like dopamine. Which of course, is usually counteracted by the immense increase of cortisol (stress hormone), that essentially overrides the function of procrastination. Essentially, putting us (people with adhd) into PANIC MODE, which allows people to hyper focus on completing the task. When I think about people who have very tedious and specific jobs like watch makers, I don’t think it’s surprising. I think when you find a lot of enjoyment in things, it’s very easy to hyper focus into it. Reading in general, tends to be harder for people with adhd simply because of the low level of stimulation. There’s essentially “not enough to do.” Whereas when you’re doing something like making a watch, I can see how all hands are on deck to make the correct and precise movements. Your eyes are engaged, your hands are too, and you probably have to think about what specific tools to use. Whereas reading is just… well, reading. Once you know how to read, there’s not much else that you need to do with the rest of your body (lack of stimulation). I personally find a lot of enjoyment from reading, but it is very exhausting to my brain for some reason. I would not think that you lied if you said you wrote a book in a year, I would be amazed. Especially seeing how difficult it would be for me to do so, it adds to the amazement of seeing someone else do it in such a short amount of time. 2. Sometimes, yes! I have a friend right now who is a very deep listener, and we compliment each other very well. Often times, if I’m asked a question (that goes beyond a simple yes or no), I can spiral into many different topics. Of course, I will always end up answering the question, but when you ask me a question, it opens up a lot of avenues of thinking that take a lot of time to explain. My friend in particular will ask me a question, and sometimes I can take more than 5 minutes to answer it, because I’m explaining the entirety of my thinking process and how I came to the conclusion that I did. Often adding in examples, anecdotes, stories, or other interesting facts that pertain to the topic. My friend loves to listen to me go on and on, and is very interested in understanding how my mind works, and loves to understand why I think what I think about a particular topic. It’s very beneficial for me because I am given the space to elaborate deeply on a topic, and to fully express my thoughts. It takes “being listened to” to a whole different level. I feel very seen, and very heard by my friend that allows me to express ideas in such a broad and focused way. And yes, I know that’s contradictory, but that’s exactly my point. A lot of things are not simply yes or no questions, and they require a lot of time to explain. But honestly, I love my friends that are great listeners. A lot of people (in general) will think I’m weird and whatnot because I don’t just have a straight forward answer to a question. So having these kinds of friends is really a blessing. In terms of them keeping their opinions to themselves, I think in my position, sometimes it’s hard for people to get a word in. I really can take you in for an entire journey on my thinking process. However, I’ve solved this problem by telling my friend that he has the right to interrupt me at anytime. Chances are likely he’ll add another perspective, or idea to the conversation. Which fortunately, creates a whole new thinking process, and allows me to basically open up a new tree of thinking. Which brings us full circle, where I’ll go on and on about the particular topic, and elaborate until my idea is fully fleshed out.
I really respect how the Doctor disagreed with Joe about anxiety being “not real”….. I have suffered with anxiety in social settings all my life and it’s as REAL as it gets Joe. Clearly you don’t suffer from anxiety Joe. Because if you did. You would never say “anxiety isn’t real and it’s bullshit” that’s crazy dude
This was one of the hardest things I’ve watched on Rogan. I have high functioning autism and I am very sensitive and loving, so naturally my parents neglected me when I needed to be cared for. I am almost 50 years old now and I’m just starting to understand that the things my parents tried to put on me were actually their issues, not mine.
I think I’m the same, I was rejected at birth by my mother, I think it’s now I’m only coming to realise the damage that may have been done.
I’m 51 and my whole life I’ve lived in a fight or flight response
My son has Autism. I feel for his condition.
What did you learn from that?
Correct, exactly. One of the 1st things I've learned in therapy was #Projection . To sum it up- However ANY individual is feeling on the inside will naturally come outward in their emotions, speech, language, and actions.
The human species must evolve by learning to NOT TAKE THINGS PERSONALLY, when it comes to judging another individual's Character.
That's the case with everyone, everyone's parents gaslight them at some point. You're too old to start resenting your deceased parents, let it go, you're not a victim.
This guy delivered me at birth in what was a complicated pregnancy for my mother in Vancouver in 1986. Thanks, Doc.
@Jay Russ while I, like you take everything on the internet with a grain of salt, it’s also not that hard to imagine a doctor delivering a baby 🤷🏻♂️
@Jay Russ Grow up Jay
@Jay Russ Dang Cletus!
He delivered my pizza
Was he late due to his obsessive shopping habit?
The idea of someone with ADHD actually tuning out there environment due to stress and it’s considered a coping mechanism makes a lot of sense
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For me, I often feel like I'm held down by a physical force against my will.
@@jzen1455 same
@@jzen1455
Yeah that might be True but you never know what happens
I'm diagnosed with ADD and when I got older I realized that with sounds and noises. When it's too loud (too stressfull) I started to tune out in the past years
Someone who has ADHD once said to me “It’s like having lots of tabs or pages open on your computer at the same time and trying to process them all simultaneously “ and that has allowed me to make more sense of what it must be like than just thinking it’s hyperactivity or too much energy…
That’s exactly what it feels like.
I got about 30 tabs open at any given time 😅
I wouldn’t describe it like that, my brain seems to load all the tabs totally fine. For me the problem is like someone is randomly switching between any of the tabs at any given time and the only way I can stay on the tab I want is to do drugs or do something I really enjoy. Its also caused me to have large amounts of depression and constantly feeling inadequate or inferior to others because I just can’t keep up.
Or too low energy trying to do high energy things honestly
Another similar but more old fashioned description is a child sitting in a circle of a dozen separate radios all playing a different station at the same time and trying to process all of them at once. I laugh when people like Deepak Chopra and other meditation teachers say to "Notice the space between thoughts." Are you kidding me? Amidst any "space" is 100 more thoughts waiting to strike.
I recently got diognoised at 27 with adhd, i never thought my child hood was bad because i knew so many people who had it worse, but listening to this im realising i was extremely stressed all the time because of my parents and i was alone 99 percent of the time. Damn.
It's all to do with maternal nurturing in the end, but we can't blame the parents. They probably did what they could, with the knowledge they had ,at the time. Good Luck 👍 👵🤯🧞♂️🫂🤞☮🙏🏻🥰
@@susancarolan153 How about genetics?
@@susancarolan153 when two people DECIDE to create another life and treat him/her poorly, they absolutely deserve blame. Some really don't do their best at all. Not sure what kind of fairy tale world you're living in, but you're dead wrong on that front.
Im in the same boat and I think if I got diagnosed with ADHD I would be better. Off. I tune out so much and it is hard to pay attention
@@thatguy4885 You need to exercise amigo.. run, cycle, badminton,, wotever... thats how you focus your energy, keep away from things and people that have a negative effect on your life,, take a time out by puttin headphones on listen to tunes or a book or a lecture so your brain can get a rest from repetition at key times of the day you feel it more... you have to work hard at relaxing- exercise + nature + good conversation= happiness.......... if you tune out at work its time for a new job! Awe 'Ra Best Mate! 🤘💀🤘
I think Joe’s interpretation of what they’ve labeled “anxiety” is pretty standardised, for those who’ve never really been cursed with it. Anxiety isn’t being concerned generally with how the future might pan out, or being in a state of nervous anticipation of something happening.
It’s the feeling of mortal dread, in the pit of your stomach, every day, despite no rational reasoning. It’s that feeling right as the rollercoaster tips, that turns your whole body inside out. For no rational reason. It’s sweating uncontrollably, twitching or itching like a mother fucker. For no apparent reason other than you’re outside amongst people. It’s constantly feeling like a family member is going to die every time they step out the house, despite rationally knowing it’s extremely unlikely.
It’s a chronic and very debilitating issue that no one who’s had experiences with it, would describe as a normal part of life. It turns people into fantastic actors though.
Sending good vibes to anyone else trying to work past that shit every day just to leave the house. 👊🏻
You just explained me to a T . When I first wake up in the morning it is the first thing I feel . I dont even have time to think about anything . Its already there .
@@robbosuave6165 I feel you Robbo. I know that feeling well. You have to take it on though, look it in the face, know what it is, know it’s not there by choice. I treat it like an allergy, or a migraine. When it’s there, it’s torturous, but you can take it on. There’s a few things I find really helps; multiple cold showers a day, exercise, like intense, empty the tank exercise. Cut out alcohol when it’s bad, and caffeine too, they’re like throwing petrol on a fire. Eat cleanly, drink loads of water, and get a journal and empty your soul into it every morning.
Breathing techniques are meant to be good, but I haven’t figured them out yet.
Be well mate, it can be better 👍
Nailed it ✅
I think what Joe is trying to say is everyone believes their anxiety is worse then everyone else’s. Sure there are people with little to no anxiety but from what I have seen by talking to people and reading hundreds of thousands of comments is that either 80% of the population has an anxiety disorder or that maybe everyone has anxiety and a lot of people have it pretty bad. We all think crazy thoughts!! But what do you do with those thoughts. I would be considered a person with an anxiety disorder but I refuse to let my thoughts control me, I will fight those feelings and thoughts and be sure to not entertain them even in the slightest way because they grow bigger quickly if you even give them a second thought. Take captive every thought, you are in control! I want to learn to manage my own mind and not rely on medication to numb me
And then when talking to certain people about it, they give their 2 cents in the form of "Dude it's all in your head, you just gotta believe in yourself" k thanks 😂
Gabor Mate is probably my favourite human being in this galaxy. He has such a calm and warm demeanor and because he has an extremely open mind completely free of hubris and arrogance, he's been able to really get in touch with the things that make us who and what we are. He understands the healing nature of plants and also understands that we are spiritual beings deeply interconnected to each other and everything else too. He's brilliant and sincere and I would encourage anyone to look deeper into his past work. A true scholar and authentic healer and just a fine human being in general. Love you Gabor.
Is he Hungarian?
Agreed!
@@yourdadssliders6241 yes, I doubt that he lives in Hungary currently, but he is definitely Hungarian
@@abrisnagy3518 cheers mate
His son is also a fantastic journalist, Aaron Mate
Today, I'm in my fourth year of medical school. Looking back, I remember my fifth-grade teacher who, despite her best intentions, didn't understand the diverse homes and backgrounds we came from. She didn't see the potential in a kid like me, labeled with special needs. To anyone feeling stuck and doomed to fail, take your time to learn. You’ll fail, but what you take from failure is what ultimately matters.
For me, those lessons led to my acceptance into a better school for magnet students. At this new school, I wasn’t seen as a kid with special needs, but rather as someone with ADHD and anxiety. My new school provided the resources to help me thrive and be successful. They offered specialized programs, counseling, and tools that helped me manage my ADHD and anxiety, making me feel valued and capable.
Today, I’m grateful I didn’t let a flawed education system put me in a box. I want to remind everyone that no matter how difficult the journey, persistence and the right support can lead to success. Cheers, everyone ❤.
Your fifth grade ''teacher', cruella deville
So glad it worked out well for you! Keep on pushing forward!!
I knew a guy from europe who was seen as low academic intelligence. He got onto a science degree and his irish lecturer told him that he should push himself because he had something special. He was a d student at the time he is now lecturing students in a university.
I already started reading Mate’s new book, “The Myth of Normal.” This man is channeling such a necessary and incredibly transformative energy which is to help us heal ourselves. He synthesizes the best minds, the research, as well as our deepest traditions and cultural roots in showing us that suffering and despair can be redirected to a place of hope and prosperity for all. I’m so grateful for people like him. 🙏
Yes! I love his new book. He’s an amazing human
I think I downloaded this. 🤔 I better look! ❤️
Does the book give solutions/ treatment options or just describe the issues and causes of illnesses from different perspectives?
His explanation makes sense for me a person with social anxiety. As a kid I had a lot of stress put on me. I couldn't run away or fight back so what I did is shut down and not say anything. Now whenever I'm put under social stress I shut down and don't talk. On top of that people look at you weird when you shutdown, so now you are expecting negative feedback from your peers so you get even more anxious.
You probably have Avoidant Personality Disorder. My brother and my best friend have it.
Society and institutions are the disease.
Your experience is very similar to mine. Unfortunately right now as an adult when I'm under heavy stressed not only that I shut down and couldn't talk, but also am paralyzed. I don't even know how to fix this.
How do you overcome this???
if you figure out how to fix this tell me
Reading Mate's book--Scattered Minds---changed my life. I've been diagnosed with ADD for all my life. Taken meds more a majority of my years on this earth. Always told I was too sensitive, disobedient, distractible, and in school had low behavior grades. I wish my parents read this book when I was young. I could of learned that having ADD is like having a super hero ability of being well-attuned to other peoples feelings as well as mine. Today, I'm a licensed therapist and great at what I do because of my ADD.
I’m about to go to school to get my masters in clinical health counseling. Mate’s books are a big reason why, keep up the awesome work!
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11:38 a cry for help. Yes i have always scored super high on tests in school perfect scores but never did my homework and was bored in class a lot and would act up. Looking back i can see it was a coping mechanism for me because that was wasting my time and i was confused about why i was there etc... but when i had a good math teacher who was engaging i was perfect student very quiet. But now that im older i know that there was nothing wrong with me it was bad schools teachers and parents etc... no one actually sat down and talked to me and asked me. They would lecture and berate me even though i had perfect scores when it actually mattered. Those people will be judged by God one day...
Congrats on your success, Dave. To have made it out through all of it while looking back and never really having an answer for "where were my parents during all of this" is something that I think makes you a stronger person in the end.
Yo you lied. First, ADD is not the correct term and hasn’t been for almost two decades. It’s adhd. A therapist would know that.
I remember few years back after my wife died, I was left alone with 3 kids. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with ADHD. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment changed my life for better. I can proudly say i'm totally clean for 6 years and still counting. Always look to nature for solution to tough problems, Shrooms are phenomenal.
I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Australia don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES sure of mycologist Pedroshrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, addiction. Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I'm so very happy for you mate, Psilocybin is absolutely amazing, the way it shows you things, the way it teaches you things. I can not believe our world and our people shows less interest about it's helpfulness to humanity. It's love. The mushrooms heals people by showing the truth, it would be so beneficial for so many people, especially politicians and the rich who have lost their way and every other persons out there.
Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
I used to have panic disorder. I couldnt go to the movies or even think about anything remotely uncomfortable or it would trigger a panic attack. I would feel what felt like symptoms of a heart attack about to happen or some sentations in the head that made me feel like I could have a stroke. The more I tried to fight it the worst it got. I ended up in the er twice and even hyperventilated myself by breathing too fast and passed out on one occassion. I thought I died until I hit my face really hard on the pavement. It took years to overcome this condition completely and I learned different components little by little that eventually when put together finally helped me. Knowing what I know now I would summarize what happened as the following:
1. There is always some underlying trauma or insecurity or something unsettled in your mind that attacks you. Feelings of guilt, shame, regret. A feeling of impotency or inadecuacy that constantly triggers anxiety. And this is the key, the untreated or unaddressed source causes constant anxiety which eventually influences the sympathetic and parasympathetic nerve system and starts giving you psychosomatic sensations around your body. This is because there is literally adrenaline coursing through your veins every time this anxiety is triggered and because you don't know how to use this you manifest it in these intense sensations. Heavy breathing, rapid thoughts, weird feelings in your chest, like a black hole sucking the soul out of your body. Many different manifestations of the classic panic attack.
2. You must not be afraid of this anxiety or the horrible sensations that they make you experience. The less afraid you become the better it will be for you and the only way to lose the fear of them is to let them happen and as I like to say "surf these waves" as many times as necessary until you don't freak out every time they happen. Because they will continue to happen. At any moment you could have a panic attack and you cannot fear that. It is no different than getting a headache or even something less painful than that. It is a minor inconvenience. Desensitization makes the panic attack feel less severe but it doesn't stop it from happening. Treating the cause of the out of control anxiety is what eventually stops this. Anxiety is a natural response of the body. It's a don't die primitive mechanism of the brain. This said, the thing is, you have created maladaptive behaviors that now make everything cause anxiety for you and your body can't handle it. It must release. So find ways to do it. Be active, do not eat stimulants and if you are prescribed medications like benzos, take them properly, the moment you don't respect these drugs they will fuck you up. Stop eating and most of all drinking excessive amounts of sugar and also get plenty of sleep, uninterrupted if possible. At night. You want that brain to reset as often as possible.
3. If you have a panic attack the first thing you want to do is accept it. Second, if possible get out of whatever place you are at where you are uncomfortable and find somewhere to sit down. Also, shut up, don't talk to anyone. At least not while you are first trying to do this, eventually as you gain experience and things improve, you will be able to fucking sing in front of thousands if need be WHILE having a panic attack if you can believe this. Most importantly in all this: Don't move. Place your legs planted firmly on the ground while seated and take deep slow breaths and exhale. More importantly don't do this in extreme heat. If it is hot get ventilated, take off your jacket, if it is too cold get warm. Just don't let the temperature influence your nerve system, this make it worse. When the adrenaline rush is met with zero resistence it can run its course faster without more buildup so just try to relax, don't overthink about anything and breathe. Your panic attack will disappear within 12 mins or less. If not, calm down as best you can and keep taking slow and deep breaths and do not take your feet of the ground while seated no matter how you feel.
Also, try out something called mindfulness and if you want to take it a step further try ACT therapy, aka acceptance and commitment therapy. This stuff made the panic attacks completely go away after years of trying everything else. But I hope those 3 points help someone out there who might need this info. It worked for me eventually by trial and error.
Great advice.
Ride the wave…or just go with it. You learn this when operating things that are bigger than you and which you can’t totally control (because of too many outside variables). You really only have the control before and at the end. Training and different techniques can improve things but it’s still a toss up from time to time
Joe, I’ve been suffering from some sort of panic attacks since 2019 and haven’t been diagnosed and haven’t taken any medication. Your remark about a sensation in your head that feels like a stroke, is exactly one of the symptoms I get very frequently, and nobody seems to understand or get it. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man, this helped a lot. God bless you
Thank you
I love how Gabor addressed the risk of raising over-indulgent children argument with the bear cub example. Makes you realize that when a child is distressed they need to be shown what to do in that situation, whatever it may be, and demonstrate patience.
Sadly, showing children patience can be really difficult, especially if you haven't received it yourself as a kid, but it's something we can work on. What a great interview.
Disciplinse is becoming not only less emphasized, it's also being more and more discouraged as the "do whatever makes you happy" and "you're perfect just the way you are" positivity obsessions that teachers and parents apply to everything became/becomes more mainstream. There's a huge lack of discernment, nuance and contextual evaluation missing from the culture of our nation today. Throw in accountability and patience, of course.
@@nathanmcdowell4731 I get you I believe that it is important to be stern with children, but being neglectful is not the way to go about parenting. If your child throws tantrums and acts unpredictably, you're not listening to them. People that are good parents seldom have to worry about their children embarrassing them while maintaining a good bond with love and respect. I don't want to bring in training dogs but there are two ways people train their dogs, one way is being stern and consistent, and the other is abuse. You know what I mean?
@@zeenea_c yes, you're exactly right. That's the nature of true love, not some fairytale happily ever after or accepting and excusing character flaws, true love has a stoicism and bravery that remains level headed while directly addressing misbehavior and explores the pathway(s) with a child that will lead to them processing their impulses or emotions and correcting how they react to them. Too many parents assume innocence of their child out of a false understanding of love and believe they shouldn't be (or at least appear to be) critical, skeptical or suspicious of what they say or have done. A child raised in that environment will become accustomed to being free of scrutiny and accountability, which will leave them unprepared to accept it when they are confronted by other authority figures . These types of parents often defend and downplay their misbehavior, reassuring their child once they are alone together that the consequences or punishments are unfair and undeserved. I could go on for a while about this, but true love realizes that no one is perfect the way they are and feels driven to help them identify and improve upon the behavior that would make others dislike them. Friends and spouses ought to do the same for their friends and loved ones...calling out lies or adjusting the setting on the vacuum or doing and saying whatever needs to be done or said so that they can become better in every aspect without judging them for falling short sometimes ...
"creating champions for life" program has the solutions...
My mother became incredibly overindulgent of my youngest brother after I introduced her to Scattered Minds by Gabor.
I think his ideas are great for people and families who lack care and love, but for a mother who already leans in the direction of coddling and helicopter parenting it can be all the validation they need to completely indulge their motherly instincts.
My 17 yr old little brother is still sleeping next to my mum and never leaves her property now after having zero life experiences (my mum didn't want to push him to do anything that made him uncomfortable or might traumatise him, as Gabor is always warning us of). I feel partially responsible for introducing his ideas to her. His life is virtually ruined as a result and I will likely be his carer when my mum dies.
Being diagnosed ADHD myself I can say without a doubt this man is on to something. I agree that kids pick up on the energy of there parents and if there's alot of stress or violence they learn to tune out I did this exact thing and now I know this I am going to implement practicing with my own son. Holy crap this is a breakthrough
Is it really that hard to learn the difference between “their”, “there” and “they’re”? English is not my native language, i never studied english grammar and i know that shit.
@@Voodoo_Robot roflmao are you just scrolling through flexing on people's grammar in the comment section. What a pity life you must live. God bless you in Jesus Christ's holy name.
@@Voodoo_Robot funny thing is you still know what I meant 🤣
For fks sake any dog owner could be able to come to this realization.
@@classygary wow I’m sure you’re nice to be around and you’re comments very helpful 🙄
Him talking about tuning out as a coping mechanism due to parents projecting stress is a perfect description my childhood and eventual ADHD diagnosis
Same. And my parents neglect didn't help me at all. It was due to language barrier
My friend has been diagnosed with panic and social anxiety disorder. I grew up with this lad, watched him go from a confident young man who spent 7 years in the military to someone that struggles to leave the house. He can’t go shopping on his own and has extremely bad panic attacks. He’s had quite a few panic attacks when I’ve been with him, he even got taken to hospital in an ambulance a few times. It’s horrible seeing the terror on his face when he has a bad one as I know he’s thinking this is it I’m dead. His anxiety is that bad he come out in a rash on his feet and hands mainly and his stomach problems are that bad he passes horrendous amounts of blood, and it’s all because of his anxiety. It’s a terrible thing to have when it is severe. I went into a shop with him last year, 7 in the morning, when it was quiet. He only wanted to buy one thing but the guy kept asking him questions and he just froze and the colour in his face went white and he just stood there frozen, he couldn’t even get his words out to the fella. The guy realised something was wrong and started talking to me asking if my mate was ok. It’s tough to watch a lad I grew up with and loved and respected so much suffer this way.
This sounds a lot like what mine is. It may not be a "disease" but it is not as simple as Joe makes it out to be.
Same boat as him. Was hospitalized for 3 months and doing better now. Psychotherapy and medication is a good place to start.
I don’t believe these guys are talking about these debilitating forms of anxiety and pd. What’s annoying is people won’t know the difference and use this As agency to understand people with serious disorders.
War is hell but it can get better, if you have a struggling friend encourage them to go get professional help. Time does not heal these wounds they become mental illness
You are a good friend. Im glad he has you.
Ask him to look at a low carb, sugar free diet. That will disrupt the gut-brain disconnect that is a real thing. Fixing the diet even vastly helps autiism. There are a huge number of doctors who understand this now. There are videos about this right here on You Tube.
There are great treatments for anxiety disorders. He should seek medical treatment.
I’m 43 and crying. I was diagnosed at 18 and this is the biggest truth I’ve every heard. I have known for years the thoughts and impulses that distract and ruin me are unwanted coping mechanisms from my childhood.
Great!, you know what to do now. Make a strong relationship now. Never too late. Forgiving and let go works. Get close to God.
like sushi said. now you know. we have to pay attention to our kids. build strong healthy relationships. don't let worry control our lives.
Im 42 and was finally diagnosed last year, my chilhood was destroyed by my parents divorce at 6 years old, I remember ALL OF IT.
I cant remember what i did yesterday but that is still like it just happened.
Are the meds bad???
@@sushibowl9707bad advice to give
Gabor mate is so underrated and has helped me more and understands addiction more than anyone ive ever heard. The WORLD needs to listen to this man.
Yeah some children grow up geniuses regardless of their parental situation.
Isn't he woke, and in favour of the feminisation of men?
I couldn’t agree more. His perspective on addiction was a game changer… literally changed my life. That said, so did Adderall.
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I was diagnosed in 1983, at 6 years old, when the concept was still new. Everyone thought I was just a stubborn kid and many adults even berated me, telling me things like, “there’s nothing wrong with you, you’re just a selfish brat.”
As an adult, my impulsive nature puts me in a position where I address issues before I finish my current issue and I’ll end up with 10 unresolved issues by the end of the day. I read a paragraph and by the time I finish I can’t recall what I read. At 47, I’ve finally been able to make the steps to see a psychiatrist and get prescribed vyvanse, which has been a fantastic and refreshing change.
An adverse side effects for you? When would you say you saw the results? Really considering talking with my doc about it.
Totally worth it
Unfortunately I think the host is making assumptions about ADHD without understanding what it is. He should interview a Dr. Russel Barkley on ADHD to get another perspective.
Many misconceptions about ADHD were talked about in this interview. As a teacher and parent of a son with ADHD I can tell you it is a real disorder.
@@themisfitmama4397i took Vyvanse as a kid. shit made me a zombie
@@themisfitmama4397 I’m not op but I take the same medication and I have no adverse effects and I see results within 2 hours of taking the first pill, I’m not exaggerating it really was that fast, anxiety pretty much completely disappeared within them first two hours
Maté is one of the most important healers in the world. Incredibly underrated, and with his new book release, his knowledge and wisdom have never been more needed. If you are new to him, please continue watching. Thanks for finally putting him on Joe Rogan.
I too have been waiting and hoping to see Gabor on Joe's podcast. What a great suprise
I couldn't agree more. 🙏🏼❤️
Well said
After experiencing the pandemic, we all can identify with the struggle of anxiety. Such a great interview!
I'm sure his book sales will project upwards nicely from this one clip alone. I just purchased 2.
Joe clearly hasn’t experienced a genuine anxiety disorder. Imagine waking up in the middle of the night covered in sweat short of breath.. the best way I can describe the feeling is that initial feeling you’d get if you were shoved off a cliff and that visceral feeling you get just keeps replaying over and over. Your thoughts come at you at the speed of light and you’re so overwhelmed for Seemingly no reason. A lot of people say they have anxiety.. No you have worries.. when your fight or flight response just fires up randomly you’ll soon understand
I think he probably hasn't ever felt intense anxiety on marijuana either. He calls other people (Normand, Gillis) pussies for not wanting to do it ON THE SHOW when they need to be sharp. He says they need to confront their anxieties. And to a degree he is correct. But for some people the anxieties are so intense than it's almost impossible to have a healthy outcome.
For Joe, I feel like he gets high and is like, "Oh I shouldn't have had ice cream two weeks ago. I need to deal with that urge." Whereas someone else might get high and be like, "I got raped as a child and I am still dealing with that. Ahhhhhhhhh."
100% the thoughts racing was rare very rare for me... but I'd get crazy physical issues.
shit will wake you up at 6am heart POUNDING lmao yeah its clear hes just never experienced this long term
I pray for u brother🤞🏻this video showed me I’m not alone..
It's been awhile since I've had full blown panic like that, but I know it's Hell. Things feel so real and scary. Wouldn't wish it on anyone, not most anyway.
So glad this subject was discussed. This podcast happened at the most perfect time in my life with my own son. He is 5yo and was diagnosed with cancer at the end of last year at 4yo. He just started kindergarten 3 weeks ago and its been beyond rough. His anxiety about everything now seems like it's leading to ADHD. The stress that me and and his mother have been in the last year is something I cant describe, yet I can only imagine the stress he felt and still feels. We lived in the hospital for 5 months straight in complete isolation and the whole time you try to explain to your child whats happening but a 4yo will never understand cancer so he has no idea why he is being tortured everyday when he has done nothing wrong........ Cancer can suck a dick dude
Hopefully your son is doing better! My 5yo is going through the same thing minus cancer it was heart problems
@@ericharvey7333 thank you he is in remission now thank goodness. Sorry to hear that about your kiddo though. I cant stand seeing these innocent lives having to go through these kinds of things. The floor we were on in St. Jude was the worst experience of my life. Only advice I have for the parents going through these things is dont even try to process it. It's not possible. All you can do is keep your head on straight and just be there for your child
@@HiThereFaceHere I ain't religous but God bless you.
That's intense and very much a hard thing for your family to go through. I find it helps to say that part is over and there is so much future and wonderful things ahead. State of mind and gratitude in the moment is very effective. It's the great moments to look forward to. Keep your child upbeat and inspired. We are what we consume. Try to consume nothing but pure foods, good thoughts,good content. I ask my every night 3 things that were these about today. We never stop dreaming. Children are over stimulated from this complex world of wants and desires. Step by step ,keep it simple.
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Dr. Mate is a much needed voice during a time of high trauma. Its amazing what he opens your eyes to and when you see...it changes everything.
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This is one of the best JREs. I teared up multiple times listening to this conversation. The importance of love and compassion in our lives cannot be ignored anymore for material gains.
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AMEN.
Indeed. The world is full of materialistic bull shit that is so shallow you could't drown a worm in it.
Gabor founded safe consumption site in Vancouver east side. , western medicine as we know it is designed to keep us in pain , be cause the capitalism and political influence of big pharmaceutical says so so shut up and drink tge kool aid!!!! Not all bad but think bout it
Dr. Gabor Mate is a wizard of the highest order. Listening to him speak mesmerizes me. The cadence of his speech, the wisdom in his words, and the vulnerability in his heart expresses deep compassion. The weariness in his face and eyes tell me that dude has seen some things. Long may you run Dr. Mate. The world needs you.
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Har har har. The eye of the tiger.
You trippin a little too hard
I resonate with this heavily. When I was at the ages 7-9, they decided to medicate me for ADHD and at the time, I was being molested repeatedly with divorced parents and my single mother was supporting myself and my brother all alone. When I look back on it, it makes me wonder if there ever was anything wrong with me in the first place, or was I just a small child dealing with stresses that I never should have been dealing with while trying to survive in a classroom.
I’m sorry you had to go through that
something really similar happened to me ... I was taking multiple different medications for anxiety and depression while also self medicating with extreme amounts of other drugs. Years later as a young adult i'm realizing there wasn't anything 'wrong' with me, I was a child subjected the the emotional abuse and turmoil of adults. As a 6 year old. It's taking quitting all those drugs clinical or not, working out daily, talking to therapist, getting a dog, other forms of healing, etc and it's still hard. It's a long journey, but the only other option is to lay down and die. And as crazy and painful as it can be sometimes, life is worth living
I got diagnosed at the age of 7 when my parents were fighting constantly and then separated. My mom moved us out of our house to an apartment and I only saw my dad once a week.
I think 80% of American kids got screwed by the pill push. They gave me the same pills for not being smart enough in school. Then when I used weed got asked why I want to depend on a drug to relax. Does America want people to get ass fucked by companies while being drugged into coma so we don't feel it?
I can totally relate with you my family was totally dysfunctional i was physically and mentally abused I was an emotional mess before I even started junior high school so I turned to drugs and alcohol to self medicate for the next 35 years until that almost killed me im 53 now and have been sober for two and a half years and work a program but I still deal with some mild depression and emotional issues but I'm working on getting a therapist, thank you for sharing 😌
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Can Dr. sporessss send to me in UK?
delta 8 is better
I was diagnosed with adhd at a young age and watching this made me pretty emotional; It affects my memory,emotional availability,relations and even my morality because I've noticed that some of the sociopathic tendencies I've picked up from my father and then some of the narcissistic aspects from my mother.
Often times I act cold and very distant as a way coping mechanism on top of my brain adopting a very "out of sight, out of mind" mentality.
It leeches to objects I put down and spans all the way to names or even entire people out of fear of emotional harm.
I confide in my own company so much that for a very long time I wasn't aware I lost all my acquaintances, even now I feel the people I talk to were added as a masquerade of normalcy.
Damn, I’m with you on that.
Hope your doing well brother
I have never resonated with something so much, this comment is honestly a summary of the social aspects of my life.
Only just realising the impact having Adhd had on my upbringing.
I recognize this alot. I was never diagnosed or even tested. I think that was best for me. I have always seen myself as normal and you should too.
Are you trying to write a novel or something? Speak normally.
@@d_all_inyea not sure how all that stems from adhd at all
I really think this guy figured it out. I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 5 and as I got older I noticed I had this habit of whenever I'm in a situation where I'm not comfortable I'll just stare at some place and my brain just switches off.
But overcoming situations in which we are not comfortable is how we grow as people. Do you expect or believe that a human being should be comfortable everywhere they go in life? It just doesn't sound like a diagnosible condition to me.
I do that too if im in a situation were im engaged im confident and very enthusiastic about whats going on but if i feel uncomfortable i just switch off and peolpe think im an arsehole but im just not into whats going on around me
@@junodonatus4906 I never said it was a good thing to do.
@@J-KEY I genuinely think you need to see a psychologist
@@junodonatus4906 I don't want to grow. I want to be at peace. Cannot wait to be dead one day.
Gabor is incredible. Been listening to him for years and am so glad he is on Joe's show. He is truly a wise man, I wish more people would hear him out
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The worst thing is that in the current psychological model, if you're a patient and believe in the kinds of things Dr. Mate is talking about, then that's just more evidence of idiosyncratic thinking caused by your disorder.
Read his books
I just found out about him and I'm so glad I did. About to buy his books!
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“Anxiety is just future problem solving”. Very well said Joe, I can’t tell you how many times stressing out about something then coming up with different scenarios for solutions did just that
That’s quite literally its definition . What he said is true but it’s hardly profound . It’s what it is : worrying about things that have yet to happen , stressing due to a feeling of a lack of lack of control
@@Jbabzie right but I think the point of what he’s saying is that if you nullify anxiety you nullify that emotion built to help solve issues you may face
It’s also about doubting our ability to be able to deal with what might happen. The reallty is that we are more resilient than we know. Yes, times can happen that can be so hard that they could break you but we’ve all got through everything so far no matter how tough and just have to push forward and deal with the existing moment the best that we can. Apply that to every moment both here and going forward, knowing that everything is temporary and so will pass, is likely a good approach to take.
Sometimes anxiety is triggered by blood sugar swings aksetabolic issues or hormones. It's intense.
mmm not it's not that's planning. Anxiety is worrying plus an array of physical symptoms
I’ve never heard a better description of what I experienced. I’ve known for a long time that I don’t want to be present or tuned in because I find life painful, but haven’t known what to do about it. I’ve very very slowly learned to tune back in through meditation and emotional regulation techniques. But I wasn’t really sure why that worked or why I’m sometimes still unable to focus and sometimes I’m fine.
It’s like learning that looking at the world through squinted eyes makes it less ugly. So you never stop.
My middle son has similar issues, and I was in the worst of my mental stability when he was a baby. I feel awful. And I do tend to snap at him because his issues and my issues can compound so easily. This perspective is so helpful. I do ok with him sometimes because I empathize, but I’m not tolerating failing him anymore. He’s the sweetest kid. He doesn’t deserve to go through what I went through.
Both my parents were mentally ill. My Mom had severe postpartum depression and was extremely anxious in a nonproductive way. She has told me that sometimes she just left me when I was crying because she was afraid she’d hurt me and that’s the best she could do for me. My Dad was always depressed. It makes so much sense. It is such a better description to say I am hyper sensitive (I am) and was never given appropriate skills to cope. I had to make it up on my own.
If I may, no one thinks or maybe notices, but many parent teacher conferences, boards, and on a national scale been talked about by the greatest minds in the field of education. Still to this day, books are absolutely the fundemental knowledge document is to an individual. Over technology, visuals are good learning examples on a chalk board yes, but video lectures on a screen or a radio lecture (can't see it or know whom the person is) as teachers are present and the beacon on questions answered, and have the steps to walk anyone in their presents through what they know and trained and studied themselves no different, to a masterful level as thus, their way of life, living and passion, is a much better resource. Reading is focus, quiet, an alone, absolute solitude for the mind and it's knowledge document it can study and focus on. Words in a page in black also for the reason of, it's less straining on the eyes. Books are easy to pause and pick back up where you left off when a distraction happens anyways. Our brains and eyes are overstimulated to a complacent annoyance with technology advertised and pushed at us all the time, radio and TV no different in a different means. You get the full 100% nothing left out, just as the teacher themselves cover to cover started and finished in it's totality, no skipping ahead or waiting for ads or anxiety marketed emotions of a commercial either, just turn the page is all. Library's are even provided with the environment at school too to focus and maybe not be alone either if that's a preference. It's all been thought of and perfected by people before us that we enjoy. Trust me it works, learned the hard way, but it's the truth.
My girlfriend had some anxiety and went to the doctor just for a check up and the doctor without hesitation wrote her 2 prescriptions, one for depression and one to basically make her numb from the world.
If your doctor prescribes you
medication without first asking
about:
-Your diet
-Your sleep
-Your exercise routine
-Your water consumption
-If you have any structural
issues
-The stress in your life
Then you don't have a doctor,
you have a drug dealer.
Agreed they should be used for severe cases where nothing else worked or your a direct threat to yourself or others. Not for a bad week or month
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I was feeling fatigued and somewhat depressed a few years ago and went to my doctor and she ran some tests that showed I was quite deficient in vitamin D. Once it was up all of those feelings went away.
It could’ve been several prescriptions but she was smart enough to treat ME and not suppress some sort of feeling or symptom.
my drug dealer actually asks me all those questions though
@@alexvega5929 Is your drug dealer a doctor.
I’m 27 and was diagnosed at 18. But this explanation makes so much sense. Both of my grandparents died within 3 years of one another when I was 1 and 4. My mother was a single parent and her parents helped her SO much with me and my brother. Their passing caused an immense amount of stress, pain, and anxiety to my mom. The explanation of a baby tuning that out and that eventually can become ADHD makes so much sense. I’m blown away.
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sam, i hope now more than ever you understand how young you still are and much growing is open for you to conquer
@@NathanRhwmf absolutely man. I appreciate that. Only up.
Big Pharma wants you believing ADHD is an “illness” that requires drugs. That message drowns out more humane wisdom like Mate’s. It’s tragic.
So much sense! I had at least 7 big stressful events in my life before I turned 1 year old
I grew up with ADHD and anxiety and i realized that it was from the trauma of my childhood
Same.
also same
Yes trauma are the majority factor which triggers all of this shit
Same. Have you tried any meds
Thats usually what does it
I absolutely love Gabor Mate's work. His book "When the Body Says NO" opened my eyes when I was in my early 20's. It validated so much about my upbringing and life circumstances. I had to be "tough" and not express or have needs because my parents were so so stressed and struggling. My body paid the price of this denial and I developed stage 2 adrenal fatigue at age 25. I spent years trying to heal my body from the stacked layers of post traumatic stress. I love my family and I sympathize with their own circumstances but it feels liberating to acknowledge that my parents did their best but it wasn't the best for me.
"They did their best, but it wasn't the best for me" I love that, that's affirming for me
The self awareness in your words…I am in absolute awe. I had a similar experience. I became an adult at the age of 10. I had to be the mother to my own Mom and then my younger brother and finally my baby sister. Even though there is so much shared trauma caused by the monster of my mothers second husband and my narcissistic mother, to this day I am STILL the only one that loves them unconditionally even though it’s unrequited.
It's good to share stuff. Being authentic is a hallmark of strength. I 'd say you are marking your territory. Almost reclaiming the past and healing surviving thriving and being yourself and expressing it to the world. I am proud of you.
I too developed adrenal problems at 15. Its hard, i commend you. Rarely, can i relate to someone on the issue. Take care of yourself!
Watched this guy in an addictions treatment centre (he’s one of the guys that are shown to patients at many centres) and his stories and information and the way he tells them had a major calming effect on everyone, definitely helped me get through it
Same here
We are Love fundamentally which is the most powerful low entropy Being . BUT we are taught that having a fear driven attitude is the way. Fuck that be kind to others and reap the rewards of being calm stoic and fear-less.
So calming I was 😴
He is practicing physician, not a pop psychologist or a creature of academia. He eliminates the shame and stigma attached to addiction and mental illnesses. He is brilliant.
The father of khabib normagumedov said about khabib. his son is restless as a kid, jump over there clime over there, he said his hyper so look at what he become now? He utilized his unlimited energy.
I had a lot of repeated abuse growing up. I'm in fight or flight all the time, in different levels. My thoughts have always been scattered. I have a ton of negative effects. My anxiety is 24 hours a day. When I interact with people, it gets so high that I dissociate, and get nbed out. It effects my memory. I have large chunks of my life that I don't really remember. Which seems to distort my perceived time. I understand time passage intellectually, but I don't perceive it that way in that state, which I am in a lot. So I literally mentally feel half my age.
That really hit home for me everything you just said
@@typicaltrumpettrump9354 Sorry to hear that you can relate.
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@They're trying to weaponize it what's that supposed to mean? Sounds like something and American incel would say to a trauma victim. PTSD is real and pretty fucking shit. No wonder your country have such a problem with rape and damaged veterans.
I’m grateful for these podcast. The free online therapy is so much better than the face-to-face therapy I’ve paid for in the past. I was diagnosed at 51 with ADHD. I was extremely reluctant to taking a pharmaceutical so I requested the lowest dosage which was 10 mg. I only take half the dose so maybe I am at a placebo level, but it works for me. I’ve also spent a lot of time researching ADHD and to ways to improve my health. Knowledge is power. Thank you.🙏
"The brain can change, if you treat it right."
That's the best line. I'm constantly trying to "get my shit together" little by little and it's definitely not easy (as I'm sitting here typing on youtube) but I want to do it for myself but also so I can be a good example and help my nephew get better and deal with his issues too as he grows up.
I do meditative visualizations where I visualize my brain synapses changing. I also do regular meditation and write tons of positive affirmations. If I feel that my anxiety starts to worsen I will put spoken affirmations from UA-cam channels on a loop.
I spent time in a psych ward and lived in a psychiatric halfway house and I was fortunate that my psychiatrist took me off meds almost immediately. At the time I was angry about it but now, years later, I’m grateful.
Physically, I now eat vegan and do a half hour every day in the gym. I know it doesn’t seem like much, but I figure it’s better to do a little exercise every day than a lot only once in a while. I live in Manhattan and walk a lot anyway. However, I did have a bad attack during a Zumba class once, so I find it’s better for me to pace myself slowly.
All my love to you and sincere best wishes. You are unique and beautiful in your own special way. You ARE successful in your goals for the simple fact that you try.❤️💋🙏
BTW 2 things that have always stuck with me and have also helped me a lot were told to me by 2 different therapists. That my anxiety attacks are my mother’s and not mine and; choose to be with people who do not make fun of others who have problems, are impatient with those with problems, or ridicule them.
Hey, I'm proud of you man. Good you have a nephew inspiring you to be a role model. I always wanted a brother or a younger cousin to do this to but was not given either. I highly suggest watching "gravemind" videos they have some incredible content. Much love
The brain generally does not fix its own medical diagnoses without medical treatment though. Examples: Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, Cancer, Meningitis.
You should try basic chi gong practices so subtle but builds strength in the bone marrow mind muscles grounding controls he breathe and helps the chi flow
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Yes, I studied Chi Gong here in Chinatown NYC and I think it’s much better than the Zumba class I was going to. I actually had a bad attack in the gym, so strenuous exercise isn’t always tranquilizing. Agree 100% with you. Thanks for reminding me to get back to it.☯️
I read Dr Mate’s book “In the realm of hungry ghosts” and I literally quit a 3 year opiate addiction. He has changed the human understanding of childhood and Adult Trauma. I don’t like to compare but he is much more WISE (not necessarily intelligent) than Jordan Peterson. I have been waiting for a decade for this to happen on JRE
He is a better medical professional than Peterson
Peterson has a peculiar neocon impulse and he gets folded any time he speaks to someone of equal or greater knowledge and acuity.
@@smokeylebear1062 a "better" medical professional???😟 They have 2 seperate fields of study so that's not really a very objective statement now is it????....🙄
Could you please name the different degrees of higher learning that each of these gentlemen hold in their field's of study??? Because if not you can't really make that "ASSessment" now can you? Its like comparing Apples to Torque Wrenches. 🍎 🔧 🍊🤔
@@LoneHero2 Your view is completely skewed. 🥽💩🤫🤐
@@gummo3873 Peterson worshipper lol
I’m 41 and was diagnosed with ADD/ADHD in the late eighties, then in my early teens depression and anxiety were added to the list. All of this made a lot of sense to me. The puzzle pieces definitely seem to fit. With this new information I feel some hope again. Rabbit hole, here I come!
Thank you Joe and Dr. Mate! ❤
Im 44 spot on for me to
You have to feel to heal.
Develop curiosity of what happening to you: body sensations, thoughts, feelings and beliefs.
Here are some tools to help: journaling (free), meditation/prayer, spending time in nature/with animals, breath work, ethical body workers, EMDR, fasting, therapy with a sane/effective therapist, micro-dosing psychedelics, art therapy, dance therapy, music/shamanic drumming, etc.
I told my wife if she could step in my shoes for a week with concentration her brain would blast threw the front of her skull. What a pain in the @ss.
Look up Dr Russell Barkley if you really want to learn stuff about adhd
But notice how he explained his whole theory on ADHD by basing it on his personal experience with how ADHD effects himself? You might want to second guess what this person's motives are and do your own research before you take his theory as truth. I also have ADHD, I was diagnosed 20 years ago. I haven't done enough research myself, but I found that a great source of information for me was How to ADHD. The girl that runs it does a lot of research and her information comes from legitimate scientific studies.
I was severely traumatized years ago as a teenage, got diagnosed with ADHD. Spent my whole life fighting ADHD. I also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
Hey mates! Can you help with the source? I suffer severe anxiety, panic and depression and I usually take prescription medicine, but they don't always help. Where can I find those psilocybin mushrooms? I'm really interested in treating my mental health without Rxs. I live in Germany don't know much about these. I'm so glad they helped you. I can't wait to get them too. Really need a reliable source 🙏
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, BPD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
Yes he's Dr.alishrooms. My daughter did straight shrooms in few days. Made her whole! after words, no more addictions, pains, ptsd and depression. It helped us.
So many people are saying this... i wish there were readily available in my place. My partner is currently in an in-patient rehab for a perc/caine addiction. He still smokes cigarettes and now has taken up hookah vaping in there. He's looking for a proper reset treatment. I believe shrooms will help him this is something I will definitely go into. I'm curious as I'd like to ensure he can be helped and I would like him to not do much shrooms either...
he's a brilliant man, i wish we had more psychologists who had the compassion and patience to see the truth of mental health issues today, get rid of the stigma, teach people the techniques of mind management, emotion management, medication is not always the answer, it seems these days silence is becoming the answer more than anything, then medication, its rare you get help for simple things things let alone complex issues.
@Ruska they go straight INTO college at 18 instead of living life for a bit
It needs to start as early as possible in schools too! Totally agree. Teach our children from an early age how to mange their emotions and feeling, how to
avoid stressful situations or if you do how to cope during that time. Build more confidence, better communication/relationship skills, be more real with our kids and show them a few more realities about life.
This is amazing. My son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in 5th grade (I think) and the doctor said he wasn’t ready to put him on medication just yet. So thankful for that. But I was looking into how to make his life less stressful and what helps me is to have less stuff on my schedule, a clean house and things to be on a calendar. I helped him do that and haven’t had any issues with him since.
Lemon balm is a popular herb used for children. Ashwaganda as well.
you did a great job
Dude you resumed this so well. I have ADHD and those are exactly the things that makes my life 100x times less stressful and actually feel at peace even though I can never actually reach them!
Doctors will usually first come with tips and tricks before medication. Medication can work but it's not always necessary.
Of course not having any chores or duties growing up will take all the stress away , humanity is weird now
So happy this has happened. Love Gabor, he needs a wider audience, thank you Joe for putting him on
Preach. Read this man’s book on addiction and it was heartbreaking and showed how to help the homeless with empathy
you're right
@@psychedelicmike7311 I know exactly what book : In the realm of hungry ghosts…changed my life. I literally quit a 2 year opiate addiction after I read it. He has changed the human understanding of trauma completely. Way wiser than JP and needs more media coverage for sure. Totally agree
@@geverniveup agreed
So much more empathic and connected than JP
I like JP but he is all fire
He’s a fraud
Listening to this wise man I understood so much about my motherhood....the mistakes I have made with my older daughter ...She was my first I was just overwhelmed unhappy tired mother...I never gave her enough support and emotions and mother's love....she hasnt got any ADHD but the emotional distance between us in noticable....she has problems with showing emotions at all to anybody in tje family....if I could turn back the time...if I knew then what I know now...jezzzzz
Basherba have you heard of Attachment styles which are formed as a baby and child with our caregiver( mother figure) which affects our relationship styles throughout our lives. When you don't have that attachment bond with child and mother(or caregiver) you are unattached causing that emotional disconnect and feeling of distance. When the babies emotional needs aren't meet by the mother the child learns to withdraw and deny its emotional needs resulting in even knowing what they even feel, or being able to recognize others emotions, they learn it's not safe or ok to express their needs so push them down and deny they exist. I know all this from my own experiences and from studying it online, it's an eye opener. Just Google attachment styles on You tube, it's a huge subject with psychologists, it would help you understand and even hopefully get help for your daughter and yourself.❤
I am in the same boat. Being a new mom with almost no support (husband gone away at work and school, no family nearby & a neighborhood of empty nesters, no other kids) left me feeling completely isolated and I would get emotionally and physically exhausted. It's so sad. I wish I could undo the damage.
@@TheKnellBelle - you can't undo it, but you can help heal it. You just have to be consistent and keep trying. And don't beat yourself up every time you interact with your child. They pick up on that stress. Just be there with your kid. Ask them what they like, how they're doing, what they're into. Tell them that you're sorry that you weren't there. Look them in the eyes. Tell them that you care. As a child of a narc mom, I would have given anything for even one day in my life for my mom to see me and be an actual mom. You can still redeem yourself. Don't ever give up. Kids are really really forgiving if you actually mean it from the heart. Just make sure you aren't just doing it once. It has to be consistent and the trust will happen over time.
Its not too late to repair and rebuild with love and compassion. Possibly start with yourself. That model alone will do her good. Then work on your relationship with her.
Best wishes 💕
This is very brave to admit. Thank you for sharing. I feel the same ❤
i had crippling anxiety and depression throughout my 20's all because of my experience at school and way my brain reacted to it. it then followed me into my adult life by meaningless job after job, sent me on a path in life i knew i was better than that. the good news is i did completly turn my life around, i was very lucky. the point is i was diagnosed with social anxiety, general anxiety, ADHD, bi polar, all of the above but its turned out i just needed to start living my true life and stop living on past memories. it took years to unlearn all my anxiety and become a non anxious person but i just want to say its possible. theres no one answer its a personal journey, you have to take a good look at your life and your personality and what you want from life, the way you react and act around people, the way your mind works, meditation helped me find some answers, break the constant flow of negative thoughts for 1 second and you find some answers. i know we are all differant but thats my story. my heart is with anyone suffering.
although my anxiety is 10 years past, my more recient involvement in nature and travel really has helped me understand what is important and what is possible. spending time in nature made me understand that nature understands what is really important and humans in the context of nature are are among the kings. So I dont worry about silly social world stuff anymore because its just not important
Glad to hear you found your way out of the matrix.
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@@SEANMCAD exactly! nature is a big one for me too, i got into mountain biking and hiking, im currently travelling vietnam by motorbike infact! we allready have all we need to get better. life becomes exciting again once you drop your old habbits. im not saying this is in everyones case, i know there are a huge range of mental health issues which some obviously do require medication and professional help. but for thosr who developed them from personal truama and just life issues in general, you can fully unlearn the condition.
@@blah8934 haha exactly that my friend, step away from fear and into the real world of the now.
This made me sad for my son who was diagnosed with ADHD at about age 10. I was in a bad marriage and stressed and he became the scapegoat. It wasn’t him, it was we, his parents with the problem. I wish I could have a do over. We no longer have a relationship but I will always love him and have regrets until my dying day.
U need to not be as ocerprotective towards him
@@ligiaumana8825 what do you mean?
Please do everything in your power to have a relationship with him. Tell him you love him. Tell him it’s not his fault. If my husbands mother would just reach out & take responsibility I know it would change his life. Maybe you already have but don’t ever stop trying.
Okay, butt, your bore-ing me, because you gave up on him when he was, like, what? 11? 13 years, while you're ducking some pool boys? OMG, I'm soooo, like, offended by your feelings right now!! ......-THEN. WORK. HARDER. Sassy-pants.
😿💔🕳💣👎🫀🤦♂
Please seek a family therapist and see how you can effectively reach out to your son.
I got diagnosed with ADHD as a kid but my mum refused to give me medication and also didn’t tell me about the diagnosis. I was a B’s and C’s student but constantly told by teachers I could get A’s if I applied myself etc. When I was a teenager she told me about it and I felt a bit annoyed with her at first because I felt like I had a medical condition that held me back. Now I’m 30 and having read up on ADHD extensively and listening to this podcast I understand the way I am a lot more now. It also makes me more conscious of being a considerate parent to my daughter, she’s an A’s kind of student.
Who gives the f about a's? I Hope you dont drug your kid with meth.
Grades and ADHD really don't go together. Putting an ADHD child through schooling is like trying to put square pegs into circle holes.
Thank your mother, these medicines harm the cardiovascular system.
@@ryanbrocci4143 oh yeah definitely. I’m so glad she didn’t put me on that stuff
Like your Mom, my Mom refused to accept a diagnosis of me having a learning disorder by a school counselor when I was a small child in the 70s. And like you, when I learned about this years later I, at first, was very upset that she didn’t medicalize the reactions to extreme stress that I was exhibiting. Now that I know about how closely CPTSD resembles ADHD, Asperger’s, etc. and am very thankful that she did this ONE thing right!
Theres a difference between anxiety and anxiety disorders. Anxiety is healthy and keeps you safe. Anxiety disorders make you anxious 24/7 and that stress wreaks havoc on your body. Some people just have overactive amygdalas.
Why though?
@@ebyd2756they don’t know much about how it works other than people have genes for it that can get activated
When my oldest was small, I was emotionally unavailable for the most part. I told him to stop crying when he needed me to just hold him. He has struggled with anxiety and depression. His younger brothers, born 7 and 9 years after him, I was different and have been very emotionally available and affectionate. This also changed me to be this way with the oldest. The younger ones are much more self aware confident and doing better mentally than the oldest was at the same age, and he(the oldest) is beginning to get there too. I have him in therapy now and I have communicated all of this to his therapist. This is straight facts, hold the crying child.. no matter how often, or if you are having a bad week. All they need is to feel safe and valid.
Exactly
I wish you could love him most now because he has beared a lot because of you I wish him a speedy recovery and hails to your acknowledgement about the cause
I am guilty too. Had my first son young and I struggled. I was left in crippling pain for 2yrs from the birth and couldn't bond with him at first. I left him to cry far too much. So yeah the first couple of yrs I struggled. I loved him dearly and as he grew I nurtured him more and more. He was very very spoilt. But I did not repeat this with my other children and the difference between them is vast. Nobody is prepared for how hard motherhood is, especially when you're young and not ready. I also didn't have the best upbringing.
@shelleyscott4332 Psychology kinda nails it with statistics. The right conditions, plenty of relaxed time for eye contact, play, smiles means, in both the animal kingdom and for us: healthier development; intelligence, immune function, healthy weight, strength, focus, longevity.
All these are compromised with a stressed mother or parent.
Knowing this, and reflecting upon it, the temptation is to make up for things. It's all we've got left. However, realising that Ernest desire to make up for things, can also result in suffocation through protection.
One thing I learnt was the pseudo science suggests that when a child hugs us, or we hug a child, to wait for them to release, then release. That way they know they can have contact and security for as long as they need it. It's not about us, though it's the warmest connection that we are wired to have. But they learn they can have 2 seconds, 2 minutes, or however much of our undivided attention and love they need.
The best to you friend.
I got diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid and ended up on Ritalin but it didn’t help at all in fact it made me a more aggressive and moody child who ended expelled from schools and eventually I ended up in youth detention and prison.
My mum was 17 when she had me and was a single mum for the most part and I really don’t blame my mum in the sense that she was a kid herself but now I’m starting to feel the lack of a strong male role model on top of having a young mum who clearly wasn’t ready and spent more time talking to her friends and getting babysitters so she could party which always ended up with me playing by myself and now i realise I was just a sensitive kid who would of benefitted from a strong family unit who were ready for parenthood. This is why these days with my children I always put emphasis on how much attention I show them because wether a parent likes it or not kids need a lot of attention, time and love if they’re going to succeed in this world.
I’m like 38 now and look back at all the years wasted due to me not being able to handle my emotions properly but there’s always hope to better yourself and try not to make the same mistakes your parents might of made. Learning from our bad experiences then turning the bad into something positive for others is how i can look back and know that the shit I went through wasn’t all in vain.
Sounds like you had too high a dose and Methylphendidate was not the right med for you. And I wrote a longer comment somewhere here in the new ones and explained my stance to this video. Sadly, it's not a positive one. I recommend info from actual people researching it etc. (Dr. Faraone, who has it, Dr. Hallowell who has it as well and Dr. Barkely who lost 2 of his relatives/his brother due to it and did the most research). It's also NOT just about medication and medicating people to become worker bees. I wish he also taked about neurotransmitters etc. So much of this is harmful and not empowering. And trauma can make ADHD etc. worse, but doesn't generally cause it. I got mine from oxygen deprivation at birst or from my enlarged tonsils, afaik. Then there's other stuff that can cause it or even traumatic brain injuries can cause those symptoms. It's all due to neurotransmitter issues, the frontal lobe, basal ganglia and some other stuff. I wish that would've been said ...
Sorry you went through all of that. And it pretty much sums up what he said about adhd being environmental, than being a disease etc. because you were ignored as a child that’s how you coped sue to the emotional disparity you were thrown into. I wouldn’t feel bad about it. It’s not your fault. But just continue to grow as a human being and break cycles. That’s the best thing you can for yourself and those around you. I have to break my own as well.
You have to feel to heal.
Develop curiosity of what happening to you: body sensations, thoughts, feelings and beliefs.
Here are some tools to help: journaling (free), meditation, spending time in nature/with animals, breath work, ethical body workers, EMDR, fasting, therapy with a sane/effective therapist, micro-dosing psychedelics, art therapy, dance therapy, music/shamanic drumming, etc.
great perspective and attitude stfu. ty for ur words. u on it brah.
Stfu? What’s your opinion then?
I love Gabor Maté, he really knows what he's talking about. His podcast on Tim Ferris' show was incredibly insightful, because you could watch Tim have one revelation after another. Nothing as complicated as understanding yourself!
If you had to choose one interview with Maté, which would you recommend?
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@@leighannf.4730 Definitely Ferris (as mentioned) and Russell Brand, because you have two "uninitiated" people who honestly try to be better human beings and really attain vital knowledge during the conversation. Other than that I recommend watching the documentary Wisdom of Trauma. He talks to terminally ill people, some of whom survived their diagnosed death sentence, just because they finally understood what made them sick.
lets get joes dad on the pod
Im Hungarian didnt even know.who was
I wish I could give this Doctor a hug. I need the ADHD meds for school and currently managing Life. But what he is saying about the children makes me tear up. In another video he is saying to limit the electronics. He puts things into perspective very well.
As someone who recently experienced their first panic attack at 37 years old, I am happy to see anxiety spoken about. I am also glad Gabor countered Joe on his thoughts with regards to anxiety. A panic attack is the scariest thing I've ever experienced medically, and physiologically I was absolutely fine. I sincerely thought I was about to die, and my firing off all these signals to confirm my thoughts. Genuinely felt like I couldn't get enough oxygen in my lungs when breathing, thought I was having a heart attack, thought I was going to pass out, etc. Called an ambulance and they hooked me up to an EKG, checked my BP and O2 in my blood, did a blood sugar test, etc. -- absolutely nothing wrong.
Yep that’s anxiety.
Are u a woman
Me too. I have had panic disorder since 13yrs old. Anxiety can be changed with thought, exercise, and stress control but it can be transformed into panic attacks if untreated. Sometimes we are subconscious about stress. Yes, its environmental, but I do think brain connection is still important.
Sorry to hear that. What do you think caused it?
He didnt counter joe. He misunderstood what joe meant and then they cleared it up.
I love Joe’s silly episodes with his friends but it’s episodes like this that keep me coming back
Medical misinformation?
@@Nunya24567make your argument, not just some none comment comment
@@Nunya24567asshat
"What you teach them is that the world is not available that they are alone and that they're helpless" that is so true. That is exactly what anxiety feels like and I'm sure as Gabor mentions that it is a formula for creating anxiety and an anxious Society.
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Joe is speaking from ignorance about anxiety--- I'd like to drop him off at the top of a 1000ft tower from a helicopter and tell him not to be scared, and that your anxiety isn't real. People who have never had it don't understand that you feel the same anxiety as if you were on top of that 1000ft tower, even if it's irrational-- you can't control the fact that you feel it so strongly. You certainly can't just turn it off in the moment by thinking happier thoughts.
@@calholli yeah. Anxiety is real and sucks. I deal with anxiety and panic attacks and from what I know not many people get to feel this immense feeling of impending doom.
I don't even know what that means. "The world is not available"? The world is right here every day so that's not true.
Anyone find Gabor Mates voice sooo relaxing and easy to listen to.
i find him completly full of shit
If you like falling asleep. Looking at him will double the effect.
Sounds like cesar milan
I can barely hear or understand him, he needs to speak up. He's almost whispering.
Ever since medicine became a business instead of a service people got more sick and dependent on drugs. The work Gabor is doing is spectacular, God bless him. Thank you for giving us the understanding of how our bodies and minds works back. 🙏
The issue here is ADHD isn't a disease, it's just a quirk some people have
The issue is not the drugs, but the way those drugs are used
ADHD doesn't need a fix, but using drugs mimics the way an otherwise normal brain could function
I guess my point here is that drugs do work, it just depends on how they're used.
Like depression. Depression needs drugs because the brain is not working right
ADHD on the other hand is not a deficiency but a quirk.
It's all case by case. Nothing general.
@@kisu_ve625 tbh depression doesn't need drugs there are several ways to restore the brain's chemicals like dopamine and so on naturally
@@exorcist3d99 ...that is what drugs do
You cannot possibly not understand this
@@kisu_ve625 so even if it can be done without drugs, forget the effort, take them and end up dependant and fucked by side effects? I see, now I understand
@@exorcist3d99 ????
Wow you're really talented
I almost believed you had a negative IQ for a second haha you're really good at pretending man hahahaha
no amount of words can express how much I appreciate this mans understanding and eloquence
This guy is amazing. I also stopped taking my medication because I have to live with the hope that my brain can change and that I don’t need to be dependent on medication to have a fulfilling life. The medication really depersonalised me, like a work zombie with no emotion. Was useful for what I needed it for, but hurts every other aspect of life.
What were you taking?
Do you suffer bipolar disorder?
Cheers! :)
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@@emineozturk8670 methylphenidate hydrochloride 15-20mg
I completely agree with this! I stopped taking adderall because of this reason. I didn't feel myself at all man.
My foster child has ADHD. I was against medicating him but after i saw his behaviour NOT on his concerta i agreed he needed it. He was unable to regulate his (over) reactions. And this was years after he moved into our home. He's happy, secure and loved. But still needs his meds.
Each child is individual.
Amen.. I have adhd and anxiety and I wasn't medicated until I was 40 years old. I struggled my whole life to function and when I finally took medicine then my whole life turned around and I'm graduating from university this month. You really cannot speak from someone else's experience especially when it's concerning mental health. What doesn't help one person may save someone else's life.
Think about what Dr. Gabor is saying; it’s parental stress that wasn’t handled when the child was young and the fight/flight/ freeze/ make friends survival mechanism is heightened all the time. You’re his foster parent, his childhood what hyper-stressful and his survival instinct is on 1000% because he can’t trust his own parents and he has to trust a stranger? Then he has to be medicated for it? Unconditional Love x forgiveness x time is what children need.
@@TheGeneralSoundwave I do agree with him about what may cause this.. and it may have nothing to do with the foster parent. But I tried absolutely everything for 40 years and it never helped me at all until I found medicine. He says he doesn't advocate against medicine because for some people it works well. I do believe that it's over used. But it's not always the wrong approach. If I had been medicated then maybe I would've gotten my degree when I was 22 instead of 48.
@@TheGeneralSoundwaveyes...totally against all those meds because at the end of the day...the doctor's wife needs a new boat...just keep that in mind
@@algonquin7187 such an ignorant pov
This entire clip resonated with me so much. I was diagnosed adhd, ptsd, anxiety and panic attack disorder. I don’t believe anxiety is a chemical imbalance but more of a trauma response. I too felt feelings of abandonment from early child hood which resulted in anxiety in my early 20s. I have made extreme changes and progress as a sufferer med free.
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Anxiety is neither a chemical imbalance nor a trauma response. Anxiety is completely normal. Anxiety disorders are medical conditions requiring medical treatment.
Absolutely other then the fact I smoke weed but even that isn't doing what it used to do for me
I hope this episode has the most views and comments of any JRE of all time. This is the best content I’ve heard on the show, ever. This is great. Gabor is a “hero” of mine. Has helped me understand what the fuck was wrong with me with great clarity and compassion. Honestly, Gabor is the mental health GOAT. Gotta be. I’m reading his new book right now. The introduction alone was fucking profound. And this book is so thick! I didn’t expect that but I’m so glad it is. Blessings and healing to all on the journey of healing and unraveling from past trauma.
I was diagnosed ADHD some yrs ago, I have found that the doggie has had a beneficial effect on me as I try to ensure I don’t get frustrated or angry and scare him, I try to be calm when he’s around and not over react to external situations also when I do the dog at times he has run to me to seemingly distract me with his presence, he’s amazing
Dogs are amazing for well being. I absolutely love mine.
Oh wow I was getting upset when reading this only to realize grammar was off. Yes dogs are a man/female's best friend. They know your thoughts.
Same tho
My dog gets scared if i get frusturated and hides. He's a black lab too. Think it's because my stepfather didnt treat him very well in the past. :C
The other thing is dogs have needs that are immediate and external to yourself, both of which are factors that help ADHD people achieve goals.
Im 25 and got diagnosed with ADHD when i was 11 or 12. A psychiatrist prescribed me with ritalin 400mg. It was crazy strong and would make me dizzy and nauseous. I decided to not take it anymore. Nowadays i can see that they where trying to control me, and the could achieve this making me feel victimized that i had a mental issue that would make me different. I dropped out of 3 college careers. At 22 i finally found what i love to do, and i have so much focus when im learning it. Im a full time car mechanic now. And im so happy that i kept so much focus naturally through my apprentice years, and i keep learning every day. I learned to live with it and remind myself constantly to be present and not in the clouds. Its just a matter of what catches your attention. The traditional school got old now hopefully there will be better schooling in the future.
You needed a lower dose.
This is great, hon. I smiled while reading your comment 😊
All the best to you!
400 mg?? That can’t be right that’s way too high of a dose
@@Quintehn what excited you as a kid? What did you dream about when there was no reason to think it wouldn’t happen? If you could have anything, be anyone, what and who would it be? If none of those work; who do you respect and admire the most in the world, and why? is it what they do, how they do it, why, or perhaps some other quality you can see that I don’t…?
Answer these questions, and then answer the question, “when and why did I stop believing my dreams can come true?”
You can design a plan to build toward whatever you want to be, whatever you want to do, and even if you never fully get there, just having your days be filled with effort being invested back into your authentic self, knowing that you are going somewhere and are not idle, and is at the least doing their very best how they know best…
This has been working for me, and in fact just asking myself these questions, truly asking and truly answering, has changed my life. I think most of people problems actually lie in their minds, in their thought patterns, and bringing a spotlight to that along with the IRS-energy (a full accounting of every nut and bolt across the infinitude of your mind) I’ve solved, or disolved, many of my own neuroticisms, anxiety, depression, meaninglessness, ennui. Realize your life is better simple, grounded in what’s real and important to you-even if that’s just your family, or just the interests you had from being a child. There’s something there, in all of that, look inside yourself, look into your child self, find out what’s in there and the dreamer that used to be.
All the greats say that’s how they channel it 🤷♂️ the inner kid in them… it’s not some weird immature shit, it’s the genesis of life, creativity, vision…
When we’re young is when we’re most in touch with this freedom of the mind and TRUE INTUITION about how we personally interface with the world.
Oh and 🍄’s.
I owe like 60% credit to them at least, and they allowed and sometimes forced me to see myself and be real with myself about what I am, what I am not, and what I’m pretending to be. It didn’t show me the way, it made the way obvious to see.
There’s an undeniable sense of becoming deeply intouch with the child in you, the most innocent authentic part of your minds eye, and it feels like you remember how you used to see the world when you could escape the harshness into your imagination, your dreams of what could really be ✨💭
This is getting long, but I think that’s the essence. Hold on to that, don’t ever let it go, if you can find it again. That’s the spark, the dream that keeps and has always kept humanity alive. You’ll realize it’s all you have, and therefore all you need.
There’s something about being a child that is inherently psychedelic to me, or perhaps the other way round that psychedelics regain childlike wisdom, or ignorance, to see the world fresh and real.. but either the way the point is that you must hold on to and nurture that spark within you, and honor it as real.
❤
400mg will make you overdose on the first time. You sure you didn't mean 40?
I have experienced a nephew with debilitating anxiety. It is like the difference between being depressed and being clinically depressed. I know things like inattention and anxiety seem like things we all deal with but some people have it at a whole other level. There are definately ways to improve it on your own but you have to have the will to do it
In the case with my nephew medication greatly helped him get to a point were he would even TRY to improve himself.
If you’re not anxious about the environment then I don’t think you’re paying attention
@@dillonroach4078 you are describing something typical. Some people have WAY off of typical experiences with anxiety and things like depression and inattention. That is the thing Joe doesn't seem to believe exists.
@@AlexA-ko8lu I've found its something that is hard to understand until you've really seen someone in that like manic anxiety state. It almost needs its own word, because everyone can feel anxious but not everyone really suffers from "anxiety"
@@AlexA-ko8lu Joe has a problem relating to things he hasn't experienced. He does this with a lot of things. It's funny because Joe shows a lot of signs of ADHD lol Maybe he's in denial and doesn't want to acknowledge it. But for a lot of people it's hard to imagine that the anxiety they experience and overcame, can be easily the same for someone else. I didn't understand it much until I developed severe mental health issues in my late teens which led me in an out of psych wards for the next decade. It really is an invisible disease that we need to learn to believe and acccept those who claim they are having issues. It's quite frankly immature and narrow minded to act like these things are made up or people are faking it.
I was also diagnosed as an adult. I was relieved. Suddenly my whole childhood made sense. It's crazy to see how many people went through the same thing.
Same
I’ve had adhd and hyperactivity all my life and I have never……ever heard anyone explain it to me like that before.
I’m exactly what this Doc is saying.
Just brilliant I’m a changed man. Thank you both so much.❤️
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Adhd feels powerful, overwhelming. Imagine being able to control it, its like the best focus, energy levels i've ever had in life when it comes to stressful scenarios, especially at work.
That hyperfixation is amazing. Can take on the world to accomplish the task. But if I can't fixate on the task it's never getting done.
There is a difference between having anxiety and having an anxiety disorder. I've suffered with anxiety, specifically social anxiety, all my life. I was diagnosed with an anxiety disorder at 18. In the last two years I'd say my anxiety has been the worst it's ever been. It's gotten to the point where I'm genuinely depressed with life every day. Suffering with an anxiety disorder is like having something hold you back from doing anything. It's not the same as being anxious briefly because of an event that recently happened in someone's life. In my case, my mind puts me off from having the confidence to go out and do things. I don't want to stay in all the time, but anyone who knows what I'm talking about will understand how it stops you from enjoying life and it's not the same as "generic" anxiety. or nervousness that people generally get.
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I agree, I have been dealing with anxiety my whole life and it definitely puts a mental "wall" up when it comes to engaging in activities. I really have a hard time going out and doing anything unless I'm doing it with others I'm close with, almost to ride their coat tails.
@@trels203 a 'wall' is exactly what it is. I hate it so much. It also makes me worry about life passing me by and wasting it
I hear you. It's a horrible situation to be in, you want desperately to feel okay and connect with others, but feel as if you are unable to. The more you force it and try, the harder the wall is. You should know that this is more common than you think and your body is reacting in the only way it knows how to - being anxious. It's okay to feel this way.
Could it be possible that you've developed anxiety as a defence mechanism is response to far more stimuli than the average person? What i mean is that what you have may not be different to the average person, just more severe.
For example, someone might develop a response of anger in certain specific situations(stimuli), but a person who you may say has 'anger management issues' has developed anger as a response to many different stimuli, or it's their go to response in most stressful situations.
If this is true in your case, then the cause of, and potential solution to your anxiety may be the same. Recognizing it's a coping mechanism that served a purpose in a whole host of situations at some point in your life but at this stage in your adult life it has become debilitating. Forgive me if I've misunderstood your condition. But, if you agree to a point with anything I've said I recommend a book called 'Fear' by Thich Nhat Hanh, it's a free audiobook on Spotify.
The physician put me into tears, he broke down my whole childhood within 13 minutes
"We dont have to teach kids to be independent because independence is natures agenda" the most profound statement on child development I have heard.
Just not an empirically sound statement
@@chochoproductions5720 I was thinking the same thing.
That’s not true. If a kid is raised in a family where the parents solve all the kids problems, they are much less likely to be independent. However, if the parents force the kid to deal with their problems on their own, you get an independent kid.
@@yourmommashouse An independent kid with anxiety.
1st
I got diagnosed with ADHD at age 28, and proceeded to get an Adderall prescription.
The stillness of the mind I had after my first dose was crazy. It showed me what people wanted me to be all my life.
I couldn’t handle the side effects, so I stopped taking it about a year ago. But I still remember the feeling of that stillness, the quieting of the storm. I know what to try to train myself towards now, where before I had no concept of how I was different, or what I need to do to perform like my peers.
What side effects couldn’t you handle ?
Thank you for providing the perspective
This is a perfect description of my experience as well. How I wish those side effects weren’t so terrible.
Very good explained and true
This guy is so smart and still has the ability to break down high level thought in medicine to anyone who needs it ..
Albert Einstein once said, “Smart people simplify things.”
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He's not explaining the full symptom profile of any medical condition. He's also not describing evidence based treatment for any medical condition.
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He can do that because his knowledge is clearly very in depth
I needed to watch this today. Disheartened Mental Health Nurse, I feel like my sanity is slipping as I watch community mental health teams replace community. People become patients. Lithium for loneliness and ECT for unspoken trauma. I used to believe I could live by my values, help, do a bit of good in a sick system but I realise that I’m part of the problem. I feel a spark of something in me when Gabor and Joe speak about symptoms as symptoms and not seek to pathologise people.
I highly recommend Gabor Mate’s books: ‘Hold on to your Kids’ and ‘When the body says no’ I also recommend ‘What happened to you’ by Bruce Perry. I truly believe that if we put down the DSM and pick up our children and engage them, we may get somewhere. Perhaps somewhere with natural lighting and limited wifi…
I feel like we are moving in a really dangerous direction where we are are all going to be patients and not people. I recommend engaging with Stephen Illardi’s work on depression and inflammation and watch the HSP documentary ‘Sensitive: the untold Story’ too. These symptoms are all real, people need help, I don’t deny that. I sit with ‘patients’ everyday, watching the light fade in their eyes as we talk ‘Meds, CBT, caters, protective factors…’ I feel like Elliot in ET when he has the urge to let all the animals free from the science experiments…I do not believe our current ways are helpful. Mixing private health and mental health is interesting to me. It’s a business, health funds do not apply rewards for favoured outcomes. It relies on patients being patients.
More conversations like this please. It gives me hope as I often wonder if I’ve actually sold my soul to the devil as I walk the wards.
I too have been in the mental institutions all my life, I and out, in hindsight now I realize it was all trauma based even before I got there in my twenties, ADD as a youngster and very different so much so that I was ostracized, actually lost my gran, who raised me, tragically when I was 13 and went on to study in the Arts and agriculture. I'm a highly sensitive, intuitive and analytical woman who loves art, horses, fashion and mostly a deep deep compassion, love and respect for my native relatives in South Africa where I live. It's frustrating to witness the unjust treatment of people just because no one has the time, enery or inclination to try and understand the people. One being me. God has always honored me where I have no monetary need and my ministry is to bless people with what God leads me to give. I do however live with a debilitating high functioning mental nightmare. I believe the medications I'm forced to take, make things worse. I pray someone would help me before the drugs take me out all together. Dr Gabor is such a blessing!!
Im a psychologist and can relate deeply to your situation. Take care dear friend. It warms my heart when I think of all the loving interactions I know you have provided to the fellow beings in your care. I know this because with your understanding it would be too difficult not to treat others accordingly to the best of your ability. I know that you are not perfect, but nor is anyone. The organization and culture we find ourselves in is an incredibly powerful influence on our behavior. My intuition is that these true interactions will be remembered and held onto as a island of hope and love and fuel for seeking true healing. The heart knows when it is seen by another, even if the mind is not conscious. It is my understanding that these encounters are what allows us to see through the phony business end that turns people into numbers and keep searching for truth. You are such an important force in the world. Please do whatever you need to feel peace and happiness. Wherever and however feels true for you.
These words are easy to say to another. I need them as well. It is so incredibly painful to have an open heart and mind in a shut down culture that neglects open wounds on our fellow beings. That pathologizes coping and longing for truth. I have often felt like a fraud and an accomplice myself. It is only natural that such thoughts and feelings would occur in a sick environment no?
I do think that every meeting is meaningful and the very act of seeing the horror of it all without turning away is where change begins. I have found that crying and allowing it to really break my heart, has led to healing.
Since the openness to the truth is already there, it is mainly the halfway stage of arguing with the dark aspects of reality that keeps me stuck. Stuck in self blame, critisism, depression, hopelessness etc. If I can take in the truth of the loss of what I thought the world was, I can grieve. This is when my heart has opened up to feel compassion for it all. When not struggling with how it is because I have felt it, I am free to see all the nuanced beauty of the people doing their best. To, like Fred Rogers mother said to him when he was a child whenever a great disaster struck "look for the people helping".
This of course is a process, and I often feel the weight as too much to bear. As if we are all falling hopelessly into a more and more dystopian society where truth is fiction and love is only seen in movies. I know in my heart this is not true though. Because all around me people are waking up. I see your post and I know I am not alone. It has only been a short time since we understood the effects of trauma and manu other fundamentals of being human. I have faith that our culture is wrestling with itself in order to change, just as an individual develops through conflict, dissonance and chrisis. Integration takes time and I know that it is happening because you and I are part of it. We are exchanging perspectives across the world (Im in Sweden) that influence our actions in vast systems. The internet connects all our minds. When two minds in a network talk about these matters, ripples flow through the "global mind". Rogan reaches millions and millions. They in turn even more. The truth is impossible to conceal for long.
@@vaenskapelsen David, thank-you. Thank-you for taking the time to reply and articulating so beautifully what I am struggling to put words to. I never comment on videos and I’m so pleased I did (tired in both mind and soul at 2 am this morning in Australia…) You have brought me hope and faith, something that has been in short supply recently.
As a UK trained Mental Health Nurse my biggest concerns were once waiting times and people not making it to the help due to an under resourced NHS. In Australia with a large private system I am scared that they are subjected to quicker help that may be more harmful then helpful.
22 years ago as I entered healthcare, I worried that I was too sensitive to sit with peoples trauma but I can say for sure that has never been the case. Im not burned out by peoples narratives, I’m scared of our systems and my role within it. Your words have brought me great comfort. I am truly grateful. Knowing that there are people like you in all corners of the earth seeking to serve with authenticity and integrity. Thank-you so very much David.
@@reneedwards1082 I pray that you continue to be blessed and that this nightmare you describe is healed. Thank-you for sharing your some of your experiences . Your sensitive soul sounds like it has served you with your art and agriculture. I wish you a truly blessed week ahead. It’s heartening to see conversations like this. I’m glad I stayed up later and took the time to watch.
@@lorib786 You are most welcome dear Lori. Your thoughtful response brought a smile to my face and Im truly grateful to see that my words had this effect. Im also grateful of your intitial comment that moved me to write them. Even this seemingly small exchange strengthens the influence of what is already known in my heart, but often forgotten by my mind: That we are in this together. As soon as I recognize this on a feeling level, I know that it is only when this is forgotten that I act "selfishly". And that this also must be the same for others. That makes me happy and forgiving of myself and others.
I struggle as well with the exact same concerns. I am new to the profession and it can be very disheartening to enter the field now.
At the same time I can see beauty in the fact that this deep concern is there. It shows that we are not dead to or willing to accept a mcdonalds version of love, truth and care. It may take a painful form at times such as a nagging self doubt, anger etc. But that is just our wisdom recognizing what needs our attention by raising the volume in our psyche. Once recognized, we can begin to take steps to adress the issue. Perhaps by airing our concerns in a group of likeminded colleagues, joining protests or just finding others with similar views whom we can explore possible small (or big) actions that lead our own lives towards adressing what hurts in a wise and loving way. I sometimes get grand ideas about how to start systemic change, but that doesnt necessarily have to be even part of it. Just recognizing the importance of looking a patient truly in the eye with compassion or listening to a colleague that needs it can be more than enough. Then, the very same energy that torments us by worry or doubt etc. can be freed up to enact a happy loving change moment by moment.
I know of incredibly small moments where colleagues or friends half saved my life by simply truly listening to me when I needed it.
The podcast "kind world" taught me a lot about the power of small acts of kindness and gave me a lot of faith. Listened to all episodes twice haha.
Anyways.. Thank you for this exchange. I think I needed to say these things for us both.
Much love,
David
I love this perspective. Hearing this honesty for the first time helps me a lot and I hope others who experience the same are able to listen and take something valuable from this as well.
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My ADHD went away with low dose SSRI's which I avoided taking my entire life. But I found something that turned off my ocd/ anxiety for a bit and that allowed my brain to focus
I share the dr’s perspective on crying babies. I was the primary care taker for my nephew. I just tried to communicate to him energetically that he didn’t need to stress. He could trust that what he needed or even wanted he could get. Because as adults we spend so much time trying to heal those circuits of mistrust in the world because it was programmed into us as babies and children.
His parents were less attentive and the result was that when I was there he was less prone to crying, tantrums and outbursts. If I’d leave for a while when I came back he would freak out when he thought he wasn’t going to get his way. When his needs were consistently met he was more capable at 1.5-2 of accepting something he initially didn’t want. I could explain and reason with him because he knew I was on his team and I almost always say yes.
^Never take advise from someone trying to sell you something. But yea mushrooms is amazing but not for everyone.
It’s a lot easier being a part time parent than a full time parent mate
@@simonshotter8960 absolutely lol you feel judged? It’s a comment I tried to keep as brief as possible and left a lot out. Basically his mother breast fed him and gave him back to me every day of his life for the first 8 mos to begin with. But who cared for him and was attentive wasn’t the point. The point was when he felt comfortable that someone 1) understood his needs 2) that they would be met, the child was calmer and less prone to tantrums.
@@TheMoonDejesus I’m just saying from personal experience, being the mate who pops round to play is a fuck ton easier than being the person who has the actual responsibility.
My son for instance loves my best mate because he pours it on him.. my best mate however doesn’t have to work day night day shifts to keep the house going, food on the table and all the new stuff he needs buying. Sometimes that stuff takes it out of you so much there isn’t much left. Especially when both parents have to work too.
That makes a lot of sense, but I also have experience with children being unreasonable with their needs. Wanting to do things that are dangerous or wrong, and when you intervene they obviously get upset. How can you form that bond of trust that you will usually say yes and meet their needs when young kids have a hard time deciding healthy needs
This is one of the most valuable videos on UA-cam, ever. Made me cry because It described my life, my family. Thank you Joe and Dr. Gabor, from my heart.
I was the classic ADHD kid. I was also Dyslexic. And my environment growing up was tough. But in the 80’s no one knew what was was up. When I was diagnosed in my mid 30’s I was led to believe I was broken. That I had a disease. The meds worked. But the side effects were bad. Turns out, I can do much the same with caffeine and good quality food and intermittent fasting.
Now I work part time with kids at an alternative school. And the sad bit is so many of tHese kids use the diagnosis as an excuse for bad behavior. The diagnosis is not the explanation for their response to their environment. At all.
The best expiation for all this for me is that I am a super sensitive person. And the fact is, this is a gift. A real gift.
Before the 1980s it was called minimal brain disorder. It’s been studied for a very long time. I’ve seen psych/educational videos for teachers from the 60s and they knew then how to deal with us. Most teachers don’t have the inclination or time.
As someone who has ADHD and MANY family members undiagnosed, I have to say this is an unkind and opinion based take on what can be a life-changing medical condition. I used to be very anti medicine. I think we need to be open to all the possibilities. Growing up without medication, undiagnosed, uncared for, this condition impacted my life so negatively. My relationships suffered. I was depressed. I felt unsuccessful. I had no confidence. No matter how hard I tried I failed because my brain just couldn’t stay where I was. It wandered, always. I see my children now and I think to myself, how can I help them to feel successful, have the best relationships, and grow up to have the best life possible? I can’t close my eyes to the fact that they might need help and I think that that is when my eyes were opened and I had to eat my words. I think every case is different and I think everyone is entitled to the best life possible . That may look very different from person to person, but out of kindness, never say never.
Agreed. I think some people hear the traits or ADHD and think, “Oh, I’ve done that.” But they have no idea what it’s like to have a brain with severe AHDH. It’s like you’re running in circles your whole life to no destination. And watching everyone else have passions, drive, hobbies, and motivation makes you feel inhuman.
You are absolutely right. We all need to start somewhere. Can’t ignore it.
This is similar to me i just kept self medicating tho drinking weed and drugs going sober going to the gym eating clean then going back to drinking and weed im tired of going in circles nothing worked but now i got help from a professional and im starting to realize all my problems in my head on what im taking now having no confidence not thinking logically and letting my emotions control me.
Crazy how two people can listen to the exact same thing and get two totally different ideas of what was said in a conversation. Did he once say he was anti medication?
@@bearbear8191he actually said he wasn't anti medication and took the medications himself. I'm currently medicated and I can see what he is saying the medication helps the symptom, but does not cure the underlying cause. If we can prevent the underlying cause, in the future maybe less people will have these issues.
Makes me incredibly happy seeing more of Gabor Maté on very public facing podcasts. His work made a world of difference when I cleaned up years ago - helped me truly understand myself and human beings in general through his books and lectures. One of the best in his field, hands down. Breaks it down to a simple science.
I am 32 and have suffered depression/anxiety for as long as I can remember. I have been on and off medication, most recently for a few years. Anxiety really came and hit me hard in the last year, with panic attacks so debilitating I would be crying for my mother. I could not go to work. I felt no choice but to relent and go to the doctor who prescribed me Zoloft. My anxiety has decreased massively but I can't help but feel numb now, almost like a zombie going through the motions of every day life - but at least I'm not having panic attacks eh. Modern living and namely media really grinds down the soul, you may not notice it at first but it takes a big part of you. Healthy eating and exercise is now what keeps me going and sometimes feels like all I have in life. For anyone who can relate, you are not alone and there is hope.
Thank u av been going through major anxiety and panics for many years it cripples me mentally and struggle to get through days at times am on medication n just makes me numb
@@proudtobeageordie9490 Keep pushing forward mate - I'm a geordie too ;)
Hey R D, thanks for sharing. I also suffer from anxiety and ADHD and I use exercise to help and it does. But also try spirituality and mysticism (sufi songs and meditation). I'm Muslim so I engage the Muslim sufis
Tell your doctor if you are having zombie like side effects from your medication. It could be from something else or he or she could try a different medication that might work better for you - there are many alternatives available now. At any rate, let your doctor know.
Exercise, diet and combat sports 100% changed my life and mental health state.
Gabor is one of my favorite humans! I actually emailed the JRE booker, Matt Staggs about having Gabor on few years ago. I'm sure my email was lost in a sea of many others but I'm just so glad to see it happened!
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Speaking for myself. I was put on ADHD medication in 9th grade and was told I had a 66th percentile IQ. When I graduated in grade 12 my IQ was in the 90th percentile. ADHD medication has profoundly benefited my life
Thank you Joe for giving Dr. Gabor Mate your platform. This podcast will save lives. Bring on the awareness and the healing.
The best guest he’s had on by far!!!!
"Independence is nature's agenda." Absolutely brilliant. 👏
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Survival is nature's agenda, not independence.
That resonates.
Independent from what tho? Nature is totally integrated and interdependent.
I have ADHD, I'm positive it's always been here. I'm 28 medicated as of a few months ago. I am back in school, doing better in life. More time in the gym. I'm glad I was NOT medicated as a kid. Because now I have coping skills + the help of the medication. Do I wish I explored it earlier in my 20's sure. But so glad I was not medicated as a kid.
Just wait until those medications turn on you
Agreed. Got medicated at age 24, my child def present similar symptoms but I will not medicate her unless she is a teenager at the youngest and she specifically asks me to do it because she is struggling.
What’s your medication? I tried a few and they all give me anxiety/stress
@@GreyGooseNWO if it stressed you out / gave you anxiety you probably don't have ADHD (absolutely common to *fake* a disorder when your brain convinces you you have it.) Or the medication dose was not high enough. I take adderal but my advise would be really have a long talk about goals with your THERAPIST/PHYCI! Do not go see your primary Dr about any mental illness medication, some are above average Dr's most are average and know about them and how the medication works but don't have experience with it. I started at 5 MG that wasn't enough for me we found 15 was better we think it's due to my muscle mass size / metabolism I eat 5 meals a day following old school body building so dose and medication is per person. My phy said the correct dose is when you increase to the point you can't sleep at night then pull it back a little bit so you can sleep. Kinda like overclocking a PC push it until it crashes then pull it back to where it's stable. Hope that helps and I wish you luck.
Basically. I got medicated in high school and had a similar experience. When I wAs medicated as a child I had no say or any clue what was happening. I was stimmed tf out and they would raise my dose even more. I think that’s the biggest problem with medicating kids
Im 49. This man is right. And I passed this onto my kids. I recognise this and to this day try everything in my power to break the curse
Dr. Mate’s commentary is a spot-on description of dissociation as an adaptation. There is no doubt that dissociation is often carelessly misdiagnosed as ADHD. Dissociation and ADHD are not synonymous, however.
To the best of my knowledge, there is no discussion of ADHD here. Rather there is a very serious misrepresentation which names ADHD and then presents a thoughtful representation of dissociative adaptations.
If the intent here is to inform (rather than create confusion), one might consider being more discerning.
“A small error, if left uncorrected, soon grows to great proportion” - from Aristotle’s Metaphysics
100%
This guy pretty much summed up my entire life. I had a rough childhood. I was a juvenile delinquents and a product of parents he very well describes. I ended up seeing a variety of shrinks and much like he said they all tried to put the problems off on me being a defective child but I was simply reacting to my living environment. Its taken me fifty years to get to a spot where my anxiety is down and i can start to function. its largely a product of setting myself up financiall to where I'm not forced to interact with people.
YOU WOULD HAD BENEFIT A LOT BY TAKING MEDICATION EARLY IN YOUR LIFE
Your doctor said that you are defective? I doubt that.
its sad when money is most of the answer to our problems
@@FleurPillager You not only doubt my lived experience but took time out of your day to tell me about it. Huh.
If you find this information useful you might want to check out my content on Autism (I resolved the question of what IT and other conditions such as ADHD are all about years ago). I think you might benefit.
I am 27 and have an assessment for ADHD in a few hours. Glad I watched this! I always had a feeling it was a direct reflection of what I experienced in childhood.
I had a lot of trauma as a little kid and my whole life has been riddled with bad impulse decisions. I don't really wanna be medicated and this insight kinda helps.
I was diagnosed with ADHD. And this guy is spot on.
It's nuts. Adderall has been amazing. But he's right the coping no longer works for me. But I'm almost 40.
how n why did it come to the assessment?
@@adreamingwolf smoke weed instead 😂
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I was diagnosed with autism and add as a kid, and later developed maladaptive daydreaming. Adhd meds worked wonders for me, and I wish it wasn't so hard to get prescribed. I'd still be on it. I was so much more motivated and capable of persuing my goals.
I was always academically gifted, However easily distracted and had a short attention span. Diagnosed with ADHD, and was given ritalin. Made me feel like a robot, completely emotionless, lost all my appetite, and became extremely suicidal which led to being given more medication. When I turned 16 I chose to take myself off meds, although it’s been a struggle I feel a lot better. I wouldn’t wish what I went through on anyone. Being told there is something wrong with you and stuffed with chemicals which you have no clue what it’s doing to you. It’s criminal. I went from an energetic, sociable kid to being a miserable adult.
You should be proud of yourself for coming off the meds that’s extremely difficult!
On the flip side I was an energetic sociable kid until my ADHD made me too anxious, and unable to function in a school setting. I became the complete opposite of social and energetic. Now at the age of 25 I'm finally seeing a doctor and being officially diagnosed and getting put on meds for the first time I can actually function again.
Did you tell anyone how you felt on the meds? Because not every ADHD medication is the same and so occasionally you’ll get side effects with one that you wouldn’t get with another. Now that doesn’t mean you have to use medication if you don’t want to ofc but did you at least try other ones?
Adderall is better
You completely misrepresented what medications do and how doctors treat patients.
One of thee most smart and empathetic episodes of Joe Rogan I’ve ever watched. Wish JR had more guests like this and less “feelings aren’t facts” types. Actual intelligence and expertise, not opinionated biased political BS. Cheers Dr. Gabor 👏🏻👏🏻
Feelings aren’t facts though. They’re an expression of thoughts, and thoughts can be inaccurate.
@@Theendman42 The entire fields of psychiatry and psychology are feelings based, they are not scientific fields. Psychiatric drugs only work as much as placebo effect. As long as people discuss them as personal experiences and not hard cold facts, it's fine. Because the human brain is extremely plastic, plastic methods sometimes work.
@@tallard666 " Psychiatric drugs only work as much as placebo effect." what an idiotic blank statement. Also utter nonsense .I'm not recommending it but take an anti psychotic and see if its a placebo. You would see how stupid your statement was. Or observe someone who is off their antipsychotic for 3-7 days , watch as they change and become unable to even function.
@@tallard666 Your correct that when it comes to the brain, it's not a one size fits all solution, especially when it comes to recovering from trauma for instance. People can vary in what they're receptive to, it's not like physics where you can drop a ball into water at an exact point with an exact amount of force and create the same splash everytime. However the brain is still very much so a physical thing. Psychology is far more observational and opinion based, yes, but that's also what we got neuroscience for. To measure the brain and it's activity and responses.
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I was recently diagnosed with ADHD, the year after I finished college. Once I got on meds, my entire world changed. Next thing you know, I was cleaning my room, cleaning my car, prioritizing tasks, putting one foot in front of the other. There were three things that amazed me though.
1. The world became so much quieter. I used to get so overwhelmed by all the noise in the world, it would literally drive me nuts and make me very very irritable. Everything quieted down somehow.
2. Reading became immensely easier. I would struggle to read one book for a class, but now, I can sit for a solid hour and read. I have never been able to do this before.
3. My circadian rhythms (sleep cycle) became more regulated. Somehow my body started to realize, “Hey, you’re tired by the way, in case you didn’t notice.” And so the hours of me staying up for hours and hours started to fade. I could actually feel my body getting tired, which made falling asleep much easier.
Nothing happened overnight of course, but I’m very happy to say that my life is now headed in the right direction where I can prioritize my goals and follow through. It’s not like I didn’t have goals before, but the ability to follow through without getting distracted or losing focus was completely new to me. It was crazy for me to realize that a lot of people can actually just sit down and read a book.
Yes, amphetamines make you concentrate on one task at a time.
I know the feeling mate. I got diagnosed at 20 but only took treatment seriously at 25. My whole life has changed. It’s crazy how similar the symptoms and stories between people with undiagnosed ADHD are.
I hate all the misinformation around ADHD.
I'm the opposite of ADHD, but I'm a MAGNET for people who struggle with ADHD : my best friend of 30 years. Girlfriends. Co-workers. Neighbors.
I can sit for 6 or 7 seven hours, 6 days a week reading, studying, (I went to medical school) planning, following through on whatever is on my mind. (One year I built an entire GHOSTBUSTER backpack for halloween one year: it light up and everything). Similarly, when people talk to me, I hardly say anything until they're done talking. Then I ask, like ONE question, and let them answer it, so I can understand better.
(1)My big question to you, is how do you VIEW people like me who can sit for hours and read? You said it was crazy. Do you NOT BELIEVE that people can sit for hours, if I told you I did?
Me and a friend saw Fight Club on a friday. I loved it so much, when i saw my friend on Monday, I told him I read the book this weekend and couldnt wait to fill him in on some back story. This guy TOTALLY didnt believe me. He thought I just made some extrapolations from the movie and tried to argue with me with his opinion. ***it's not an opinion....i. read. the. book. ** But later, realized that he didnt think i could read the book IN A WEEKEND. That was the part that was unbelievable to him....the focus it takes to read a whole book in a day and a half.
(3)If I wrote a book (I did: it took me one year and one week to finish).....would you think that i cranked it out in just a few hours, or whatever? What is your view on the creation of things that HAVE TO take hours and hours of focus? Like what do you think of a Swiss watchmaker? Or a pathologist, who stares in a microscope all day, looking for cancer cells among regular ones? I imagine it might be like how i view ARTISTS....I'm a scientist, by training, so the ability to look at a piece of metal and sculpt it into beautiful modern art seems like utter MAGIC to me.
(2)My other question to you is....are your close friends like me? Does ADHD lead you to quiet people who listen and keep their opinion to themselves?
I feel like you just wrote my experience. Thank you for sharing. I got diagnosed 2 years ago in my 40s. My mom saved every one of my report cards. Took those into my psychiatrist and took several tests and found out I slipped through the cracks and was clearly ADHD. I got medicated and worked with an ADHD coach and my life has done a total 180 in every area. I'm a better friend, partner, and employee. I remember to do the mundane boring things you need to do daily like basic hygiene and being tidy around the house. Chores are second nature. Tasks that involve executive function aren't overwhelming. I listen to people without the urge to finish their sentences. My sleep hygiene has improved. I rarely feel anxious. I no longer impulse buy. I pay my bills on time. I wish people wouldn't stigmatize stimulant medication for ADHD. It has saved people's lives. I almost got in a car accident the other day because I forgot my medication and was driving distracted. I no longer drink alcohol because I'm not interested. I'm so thankful for my diagnosis and finding the right medication to help my brain stop working against itself so I could become the person who I knew I was.
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1. No no, I definitely believe you can do it. I personally struggled very hard with reading. However, after receiving treatment, I was able to read with greater concentration. It surprised me that everyone (in general) can sit there and read a book. I was finally operating at the level of concentration where I could read a book, and was stunned at the fact that it’s probably this effortless for most people. I’m not surprised by people who can read for long periods, I’m surprised how effortless it is for people without adhd.
3. The ability to crank something out in a couple hours is very familiar to me. As I’ve done my research on adhd, procrastination is something that is very common for people with adhd. Most likely due to the fact that things like studying can be severely under stimulating, in terms of stimulating things like dopamine. Which of course, is usually counteracted by the immense increase of cortisol (stress hormone), that essentially overrides the function of procrastination. Essentially, putting us (people with adhd) into PANIC MODE, which allows people to hyper focus on completing the task.
When I think about people who have very tedious and specific jobs like watch makers, I don’t think it’s surprising. I think when you find a lot of enjoyment in things, it’s very easy to hyper focus into it. Reading in general, tends to be harder for people with adhd simply because of the low level of stimulation. There’s essentially “not enough to do.” Whereas when you’re doing something like making a watch, I can see how all hands are on deck to make the correct and precise movements. Your eyes are engaged, your hands are too, and you probably have to think about what specific tools to use. Whereas reading is just… well, reading. Once you know how to read, there’s not much else that you need to do with the rest of your body (lack of stimulation). I personally find a lot of enjoyment from reading, but it is very exhausting to my brain for some reason. I would not think that you lied if you said you wrote a book in a year, I would be amazed. Especially seeing how difficult it would be for me to do so, it adds to the amazement of seeing someone else do it in such a short amount of time.
2. Sometimes, yes!
I have a friend right now who is a very deep listener, and we compliment each other very well. Often times, if I’m asked a question (that goes beyond a simple yes or no), I can spiral into many different topics. Of course, I will always end up answering the question, but when you ask me a question, it opens up a lot of avenues of thinking that take a lot of time to explain. My friend in particular will ask me a question, and sometimes I can take more than 5 minutes to answer it, because I’m explaining the entirety of my thinking process and how I came to the conclusion that I did. Often adding in examples, anecdotes, stories, or other interesting facts that pertain to the topic. My friend loves to listen to me go on and on, and is very interested in understanding how my mind works, and loves to understand why I think what I think about a particular topic. It’s very beneficial for me because I am given the space to elaborate deeply on a topic, and to fully express my thoughts. It takes “being listened to” to a whole different level. I feel very seen, and very heard by my friend that allows me to express ideas in such a broad and focused way. And yes, I know that’s contradictory, but that’s exactly my point. A lot of things are not simply yes or no questions, and they require a lot of time to explain. But honestly, I love my friends that are great listeners. A lot of people (in general) will think I’m weird and whatnot because I don’t just have a straight forward answer to a question. So having these kinds of friends is really a blessing.
In terms of them keeping their opinions to themselves, I think in my position, sometimes it’s hard for people to get a word in. I really can take you in for an entire journey on my thinking process. However, I’ve solved this problem by telling my friend that he has the right to interrupt me at anytime. Chances are likely he’ll add another perspective, or idea to the conversation. Which fortunately, creates a whole new thinking process, and allows me to basically open up a new tree of thinking. Which brings us full circle, where I’ll go on and on about the particular topic, and elaborate until my idea is fully fleshed out.
I really respect how the Doctor disagreed with Joe about anxiety being “not real”….. I have suffered with anxiety in social settings all my life and it’s as REAL as it gets Joe. Clearly you don’t suffer from anxiety Joe. Because if you did. You would never say “anxiety isn’t real and it’s bullshit” that’s crazy dude