$3,300 custom 16 inch MacBook Pro vs base model: is it worth it?
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The 16 inch MacBook Pro has been very well received, but as with any Apple product it can get pretty pricey! So in this video let's compare the base model 16 inch MacBook Pro with a custom upgraded model that costs $3,300!
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The ridiculous fact is that here in Greece the base Model 16inch is 3000 Euros and the higher tier model is 3400 Euros. It is more economical to fly to the US and back and purchase it than to buy it from a local shop.
Keep in mind US pricing always excludes taxes
@@makebabidotes Then go to a tax-free state like Oregon
@@makebabidotes i guess that even with the taxes it will be cheaper
In Brazil, the base 16 inch costs 5000 dollars. It’s literally cheaper to go to us and buy it
Henry Brasil e seus preços bizarros
9:15 if you just want the answer
Diego Oliveira you the real MVP
Ah! Thank you SO MUCH
You're doing God's work, son.
Not all hero’s wear capes...unless you do wear a cape....then I would call you a super-hero 🙌🏾
I skipped to the answer and immediately got a fuggin wikibuy ad...
You need 32 GB Ram if you are going to use google chrome.
Alex Use the Great Suspender! It’s totally changed how I use my Mac. I have over 250 tabs open currently and have about 9 GB of ram free.
Jordan Banko Cheers dude 😁
That ram is 5 times more expensive than normal ram
@Alex, true.
*64 GB
Watching now. Regardless of the results, THANK YOU for making this. This was the comparison I was looking for before purchase.
So what was your purchase? I have the base i9 standard config in hand and wondering if I should return for +4gb Vram and 32gb Ram
Mee tooo Have the same comment Mr. DPhoto
Me too. I've been on the fence about making this purchase and making the upgrades.
I have the base model, and I’ve never had a computer before, so I literally can’t imagine a computer being faster than the one I have now. This thing is a beast!
Super Saiyan 3 You would be fine with the base gpu and 16gb ram if you’re editing at 1080p. If you end up needing a more juicy gpu you can always hook up an external gpu.
Hell ya man! Beasts of a computer. Congrats!
Can we say a prayer for all of the people that bought the old 2019 mbp's more than 2 weeks before this one came out.
there fault
Jake there were rumors it was coming out. That’s their fault for not waiting.
I’m buying one now, even after seeing the 16 inch. My opinion regarding the keyboard is just opposite of everyone else’s: I love the Butterfly.
@@abubakrakram6208 then there is something severely wrong with you.
@@JurassicF4rt What nice and completely reasonable thing to say. Not at all irate or impulsive!
You say 32GB ram helps, but AFAIK, you haven't explicitly tested the importance of more RAM. The importance of more RAM will likely show in real world usage, using and switching between multiple applications.
After effects user here... 64gb of ram isn’t even enough
@@taylorking4358 I have 32gb of ram and having after effects open basically destroys my pc lol. Can't even have browser tabs open sometimes. Tbf, I think Adobe apps are horrendously optimized and have major bugs all the time so there's that
Could've bought a car with the money of these two combined.
Not that you really need another car, or if that really matters.
This comment is pointless.
Pointless as hell just like this comment.
pointless indeed.
I agree
Someone spending 3000 on a laptop already has a car that probably cost 10-15 times of that or more.
He also could've bought 165 blenders instead
if this shows anything, its the fact that the base 5300M is super solid. Beating Vega 20 and pretty close to 5500m. Nice change in the pro lineup, actually offers a good value proposition in the 16" this year. Awesome!
Bro I make videos full time and we got nearly the same exact configuration! Mine arrives Monday. I got your config but with 2TB cause dang 4k footage takes up so much!
Are you a creator that keeps all
Your footage or upload and delete from storage just curious thanks my friend
A nice external ssd would do fine for much cheaper
seeing you here was so unexpected
The Mercado Channel external drive amigo! That’s why I use, over the past 2 years I’ve only used a total of 1.2tb and that includes other stuff like software, games, music, movies and shows. Along with all my filmed footage
Storage is the last problem, we can buy an external ssd, the real problem is the ram, because is not expandable
$400 for an extra 16 GB of RAM is highway robbery. It should be maximum $200. Or they could make it upgradeable like a proper pro machine.
At 7:05 you mixed the stock with the upgraded model 😅
ikr
Nikos Yiannos I also noticed that 👍🏻
Same here ... Had to rewind and replay 😂😂😂
he changed the wallpaper 😂😂😂
okay cool because I rewatched that like 3 times trying to understand😂
I ordered the same customised model! Figured the ram would be more future proof and wanted something that could handle 4K video editing easily
Is everything going good with your customized model? Just asking because I'm looking to get that model also.
Thanks for the review! I chose the Base model 16” today on sale at BB for $2099! over the new $1799 13”
What is the specs on ur macbook ? , i want one for final cut pro for youtube vids ( pls answer)
Me: clicks on video to find out if base model is good enough
...
You:
"base model is probably good"
"But going i9 is a good idea"
"And if you do that, go to the upper tier, don't upgrade the base model"
"And the GPU vram upgrade is a no brainier"
"That ram upgrade is expensive, but you should go ahead and get that"
...
Me: exactly as conflicted as I was when I got here.
Thanks bro
Idk why but I love the Intel 16” MBP. It’s the only really good high-end MacBook, especially in terms of graphics, that Apple made ever since the mid-2015 (up until Apple silicon ofc). It’s also the last machine with this beautiful thin and lightweight design, which I believe Apple could have kept around due to the efficiency of Apple silicon.
Here in Canada we would call that a Double-Double MacBook pro... 🍁
But that option is only available at Tim Hortons
I don’t get it
@@ragnarlothbrok2810 2 sugar 2 cream , in our coffee from Tim Hortons
How did you know that you needed more RAM? You said you were using 12-14GB RAM with the base model but considering MacOS uses any RAM you put in it it's really not a good indicator. If you for some reason had 256GB RAM it might use 220GB and so on... that doesn't mean you suddenly need more RAM, it just means it's using whatever it has.
Hey Luke! Excellent videos as always. A bit of constructive (hopefully!) feedback, as an iOS developer the video editing centric comparisons are not as applicable to me. In future videos, could you include a compile time comparison? Firefox compile is an easy one. Or since this is a Mac centric channel, an Xcode compile of some type? Thank you for the awesome content as usual! Cheers!
Kevin Newbury agreed! I’d be interested in that also.
Me too I’m only 10 years old but I’m really good at iOS development
+1 here. I believe there's next to nothing of greater value for us developers than such tests! :)
Ahmad Shariq and so modest :-)
+1 here! So many UA-camrs focus on video rendering. It makes sense, as that is what they think about all day. But as a developer I want to know if the i9 is worth it over the i7. Thanks for the great video!
You missed me 😔😂
My comment wasn’t here on UA-cam, it was on Twitter.
First I guessed i9 8core, 32 GB of RAM, 5500M 8 GB and 1 TB of SSD. One day later I corrected to i9 2,3 GHz because I forgot the 2,4 i9 option (it’s so pointless I didn’t even remembered).
But still was guessed correctly.
Enjoy your machine, I would pick that exact same config.
Is 64gb worth the money or 32gb is sufficient? This is my question.
Thanks
The 2.3GHZ->2.4GHZ isn't really about the % increase of performance, it is more to do with the 2.4GHZ being a better bin than the 2.3GHZ and thus they tend to have lower temps and thus throttle less.
That “lets find out” cringe 1:16 😂
Luke.. love the content. The videography is great... the audio... not so much. It’s time to get a directional mic and put up some sound deadening. The echo is kind of rough on your audio.
you really don't need a terabyte to edit 4K footage (internal 1tb is what you meant I assume). What does 4K even mean? GoPro shoots 4K and so does Lumix G7 and MBPCC4K. You could be shooting BRAW and getting smaller sizes than a 422 prores shooting 2K. Just the resolution doesn't matter bro :)
Also, external SSD for editing any footage is a better idea than do it all in the Macbook Pro. Source: Been editing 4K footage on macbook pros since 2015
Apple almost delivered an adequate base model here. Almost. The issue is the RAM, only 16 GB and NOT upgradable (that last part is key here). And the upgrade to 32 GB is very overpriced.
Timur Tripp I got the base model and the only thing that worries me is the 16gb. It’s been surprisingly fine even in after effects, but already hitting the limit. $400 for a $70 chip just seems unfair.
Ian G I’d return it and upgrade if still possible. I’m always running out of ram on my MBP. Would get 32 GB in a hearbeat
$400 for 32GB of ram is definitely overpriced.
Well, you're not just paying for a regular piece of RAM. It's all soldered on, and only made if ordered, so you're paying for that too. You can't add more after the fact.
@@Scott__C Not a reason it can't be priced similarly to a regular stick of RAM (or slightly higher, say $200), as they are simply substituting one set of chips for another. Apple makes good products, but the $400 for 32 GB is pure greed while the GPU and 1 TB SSD prices are actually reasonable.
32gb might seem excessive but lets say in 4 years you might need it.
It's just Moore's Law. I bought a "badass" MBP in 2012, with 8GB RAM. It's laughable now, and I max out with just FCP and Chrome!
@@jordanescapes7790 So...you spend all this money to run Chrome? Uhm...
@@espacemaxim Chrome is required for work programs, so yes. I still enjoy bank deposits despite my super cool 8 year old laptop.
16gb should be fine for at least 4-5 years, Apple is great at optimisation
With 32 gigs ram and upgraded graphics you'll will have a higher resale value if you decide to sale your Macbook in the future.
I more or less bought your $3,300 custom one but with 2 TB SSD. Runs like a dream! Big upgrade from my Mid 2012 MBP.
I would recommend that everyone in the market for a new MBP now upgrade to 32 gigs of RAM. Sure 16 gigs might be fine for your needs now, but that might not be the case in a couple of years.
hopefully Apple can refresh the 13’ MacBook Pro with the new magic keyboard and if they do, I plan on buying it.
Robert Aguilera probably will take 6 months
They are probably going to announce it next month at a 14 inch model. so, if anyone reads this. wait a little a see what they end up doing with the 14. Theyll make sure that the 2016 is still the preferred purchase for those that need it tho. the 14 inch will be good for everything but video editing at 4K im betting.
i have a 1080ti/ i7 8700k gaming pc so im just gonna go for the cheaper model cuz all ima use that macbook pro is to watch youtube, shopping, small work stuff, pay bills and download music and gonna finally upgrade from my 2014 model
I got the base model 16inch. I upgraded from a 2011 MacBook Pro. This was a total difference for me!!! Now I feel like its a Ferrari compared to my 2011 Toyota camry. I love my new computer I'm watching you through it. love the speakers and love the keyboard....
Kudos to your taste in background music! Smooth, catchy shit!
Did research for 4-5 weeks on buying a MacBook Pro. I ordered one 4 days ago but I made the mistake of upgrading to the i9 on the $2400 version (I didn’t know there was another i9 option until I actually looked lol). 2 days after ordering I called Apple support and canceled the order so I could buy the better option. Coincidence that I chose the exact same hardware as yours, without seeing this video haha.
lmao 1:14 made me laugh out loud in the library
I WONDER WHY 😧
Great Video man. Do the fans kick in more often on the i9 compared to the i7? And is the 32gb ram worth it?
Thanks a lot Luke for doing all the work and sharing this video. Would you think that the i7 base model with 32gb RAM upgrade is enough for video editing or the i9 with base specs would be better? I would be using FCPX for editing FHD videos and probably a little bit of 4K. I also only do video edits as a hobby. I’m not much worried about the storage as I am planning to get an external SSD to save files. I just can’t decide if I should go for a 6 core i7 + 32gb ram or 8 core i9 + 16gb ram for my usage.
Also the comparison you made with the graphics cards were pretty helpful, it at least made my decision on that part easier now.
I would appreciate your expert advice and suggestions.
Keep up the great work and God bless!
I went with 2.3GHz i9, 32GB of RAM, 4GB 5500 Radeon, 2TB SSD. THIS THING IS A BEAST OVER MY MID 2015 MACBOOK!!! I work in an IT department and run a lot of VMs for testing environments. Having the storage space without relatively paying an arm or leg is AMAZING! I love not having to lug around or connect external SSD anymore for some of my lesser used VMs. Windows 10 VMs are super smooth and responsive! Not only that but I've been slowly ripping all my DVDs and Blu-Ray discs and adding them to my NAS. This thing cuts through that task like butter!
I use parallels also for windows 10, do you think 16GB will last me 3 or more years? I am an structural engineer or I need 32 GB???
That exact same configuration costs $4,235 in the UK because of how Apple don't even pretend to use the exchange rate. They just change the currency symbol. The $2,799 Macbook is £2,799 ($3,592)
The 5500M upgrade is great for more VRAM demanding workloads, for example Blender benefits a lot from the extra 4GB of VRAM
Thanks for the comparison! I have been looking for a while on a comparison between the base and upgraded model, this helps a lot.
I got the 64G and 1TB version. Looking back after 2 years of using, I would say the 10% performance increase shouldn't be THAT expensive. The base model is the best!
So I disappeared down the rabbit hole of your mac videos, ached to buy a shiny new 16" MBP.....then decided to get a new battery put in my 2011 MBP, put an SSD and more RAM in my 2008MBP to use whilst that happened and bought a 2nd hand iMac to do 360 video edits on. Saved 2K . Thanks for ALL the info, really useful, particularly pointing out how good older macs are, the ones I can afford.....
if only ram upgrade was not this inappropriate, I'd have decided already my configuration.
I did the same but at the last minute thought "screw it" and went for 64GB RAM haha
Jamie Melville TV is it worth it?
I need a new laptop...my 2011 17 “ MacBook Pro died after owning it for 9 years now! Saving money to get the 2019 model. Definitely getting the higher end model with 32gb ram!
Personally, I’ve always found the “middle” option to be the best bang for your buck. There’s a very real case of diminishing returns with upgrades.
No
Absolutely no one on UA-cam tested the 5500M with 4GB of VRAM (the base i9 version). That’s the one I have and it scored well (over 3400) on cinebench. But I’m curious how it stacks up!
It was worth it to me. I will probably keep this computer for 3-4 years so future proofing it is worth it.
You can get the base model for $2100. It scores within a few fps in games to the higher model, and anywhere between 10 and 20% slower than a $3,000 to $3,600 machine. Not a huge performance difference unless you are literally rendering hours of videos every day. In that case, you should be looking at a desktop, anyway.
If you edit video and keep you machines for 3-5 years, paying an extra grand for 32 gb of ram and the better video card is worth it. Getting more ram on a machine which is not ram-upgradable is probably the single best thing you can do (ability to replace vid card is is a tie). In a pinch, you could use a external gpu if rendering becomes that terrible.
If you upgrade every other year or two, or have less stringent needs, the base model is the Macbook Pro 16" most people should get. On average, it has 90% of the performance for about 71% of the price, making it a much better deal. If you edit one or two 10 minute videos per week, the base model is the way to go.
I typically have several apps and tabs open and I render video, but they are usually short videos in 1080p. But, I keep my machines for a long time. The last new laptop I bought was a 13" macbook pro in 2015. I plan on keeping this one for a long time. Unti it dies, basically. At least 5 years, more if possible. This will replace my iMac at home.
I started with the upgraded model, opted for the maxed out 8 GB 5500 and 32 GB of ram, as well as 2 TB internal drive. I'll be using an attached external as a scratch drive for video editing, but I might want a 500 gb Bootcamp partition for the occasional file or apps for which I need windows.
Whew. $3,600 is a lot of money. But I have an old 15 inch model that gets so hot you could fry an egg on to trade in, so the net cost will be around $2800. Still a lot of money. And it is gonna take them a month to get it to me.
I could have a base model in my hands in a day. Lol. Patience is a virtue, I guess.
Still, by the time the $2,100.00 model feels 'slow' -- the upgraded $3,000 + is going to as well. But an upgraded model will be easier to sell.
I have no doubt that I could have, and probably should have, opted for the base model and saved myself $1,000+
_"100MHz base clock, 200MHz boost clock - you're not going to notice the difference."_
Until two years from now when the minimum support specs on your favorite applications read "Minimum requirement: 2.4GHz".
Doh!
If you're doing it right, $200 is effortless insurance. Couple hundred bucks? A non-issue. GET THE FASTER PROCS!
Orangeman Cometh it doesn't matter, it will reduce frequency due to heat. Then they will perform same
Luke, someone else did a comparison and the main difference in the graphics is that in graphics programs like Blender the 8GB VRAM there is a noticeable performance gain.
Every reviewer ever: "You're basically fine with the base model"
Also every reviewer ever: *buys really high spec macbook every time without fail
8gb of VRAM is a life saviour in 3D applications where project rely on GPU to have everything stored and instantly available. It's leaps ahead of 4gb, which was little even 2 years ago..
32gb of VRAM is also great if you're doing heavy photo editing or large video productions or just have more production programs open at the same time. It's really easy to have 20+gb of RAM used, we're just used to 16gb and adapt around its limitations. So - I think his personal macbook is very well specked and it'll hold its value very well because of that.
AMO - Always Max Out. He could've done better.
The i9 option in the base model has higher clock than the $2799 model. If you choose same options for both models, the price is exactly the same.
don't forget if your a student you can get $200 off the base model 16" pro or a discount on a lot of products
Can you make a video going into detail about which RAM potentially is best for us 16gb DDR4 memory, 32gb or 64gb. Please! 🙌🏽
64GB would typically only be beneficial for pretty niche applications like extremely high res, tons of layers in photoshop files or multi-cam, multi-timeline 4k video editing. While it may be true that more is always better, there are diminishing returns for sure, especially at the prices Apple charges. If you have a MBP now, open up Activity Monitor and you can see under the Memory tab how much RAM you're actually using at any given moment. From my research, I'd agree that 16GB is probably still enough for most situations, 32GB will be nice to have, but still not far from "essential" when 4k video editing or working on tons of photos, and 64GB would be wasted unless you're getting paid to do pretty complex graphical work where render times for BIG projects are critical.
In short, if you have to ask, you probably don't need 64GB RAM.
Very comprehensive video. Was definitely wondering if I needed all of that RAM and storage, but this definitely sold me on a cheaper Mac. Thanks a bunch!
Lol $1000 for 10% increase performance
We are ordering every spec maxed out including 8TB. In Canada this costs around $7,600. Only thing we settled on was the middle option Radeon 5500 w 8GB GDDR6
Great, I ordered MPB 2019, i9 2.3GHz, 32 GB, 5500/8, 2TB. I ordered it for 3.799€ via Alternate.de (Apple.de you pay 4.279,00 €) - saving 480€!
If I were to get this the only upgrade I would do is the GPU. Everything else seems fine to me
It's still not worth the price
ACE112ACE112 This is rather subjective. what laptop would you suggest as an alternative? This competes very well with the Dell XPS 15 even though on paper that has higher specs. It’s all about the actual user experience.
Sidfluence I would do the ram if I only had one option
John Wheeler I wouldn’t recommend the xps 15. I bought a nearly maxed out one in 2016 and it ran into several issues just like ones mentioned in reviews on Dell’s website. 3 years later and it’s apparent the build quality is not justified for a 2k+ price tag. I’m about to switch to this mbp for its reliability
woslyer I was replying to ACE12ACE12’s post saying the MBP is not worth the price. I’ve also seen some negative reviews of t he Dell that show even the previous MBP performing better despite having worse specs on paper. i’ve just ordered a 16” MBP for dev ops & photo/video editing, and hope my research has been accurate!
i7 32gb ram 1tb ssd 5300M 4gb the best set up? As in it will run cold 🥶 so it can beat the higher spec when those run super hot 🥵?
Excelente video. Saludos desde Panamá 🇵🇦🇵🇦🇵🇦
I'm currently loving the base model... I'm not sure if I'll upgrade or not. I haven't noticed any limitations of the 16gb of RAM just yet...
Can you please make a video called "is a 12inch macbool still worth it in 2019?" Would gladly appreciate if you did.
I use these everyday both personally and in my porfolio companies. For everyday workflow (internet, email, Slack, productivity), they are 100% usuable with no noticeable lag or performance hit.
@@alliejr thanks for the reply.
I ordered exactly the same configuration and now just see this video. Simply wow!
would love to see a comparison with the 16” and the 2016 15”
I have both actually and that's a great idea!
Just made a design comparison video featuring the first generation MacBook Pro and the 16" model. The 16" really is a great machine.
Super helpful! Upgrading from my 2013 retina MBP and weighing the upgrades. Thank you! Subscribed!
Man oh man, some day i'll get to the big leagues. Great comparison for those that value performance/price comparisons that actually make sense, thanks for that Luke. For now i'l be content that I got a late 2013 rMBP (Made in spring 2014) with an I7-4850@2.3ghz, 16gb ram, 2GB GT750M, 512SSD 1 cycle count on brand new stock battery!
Took your recommend on that one, went in repasted the CPU/GPU with Corsair grease and blew out the dust bunnies, the machine runs awesome. The only thing im unsure about is wether or not it's better to go back to High Sierra to have native Nvidia driver support as it doesn't exist on Mojave and wont, and if there is really any impact in FCPX, which, it seems as though rendering times are just fine. Either way, I got this machine for $500 USD on Ebay and I am more than happy with it. Thanks for the advice as always.
Vladislav Evdokimov Mine didn’t come with an ac adapter which cost me another $75 USD. So you are in the ballpark.
I'm going to buy the 2019, 16", 2.3 GHz, 16 Gb RAM, 1 TB, 5500M for 512 USD equiv. in a couple of days. I have a 2015 13" Macbook Pro and it's time for an upgrade.
I only got 16gb of ram with my 2018 MBP and wish I'd bought more, for me it struggles with After effects. Obviously once you've bought the configuration you're stuck with it for good so choose wisely. Apple prices for ram are ridiculous though.
you missed one thing about the 2.4 i9, that it will run cooler since the i9's are binned cpus. You also seem to be happy paying 320 for an extra 16gb but have an issue paying an extra 32 on top for 32gb extra. Your logic makes about as much sense as Apples with their pricing.
I bought yesterday MacBook Pro 16 inch 1tb ..but tomorrow coming..I thought maybe I feel regret already yesterday but watching your video make me feel better now , I think I choose the right one...?.. isn’t ?🤔
I got your custom with 64gb ram, super happy having upgraded from a 2011 MBP....
eye watering ram prices - my favorite part about buying macs 😅😅😅
Most Mac users is fine with a MacBook air. They are not editing or coding.
I was comparing equivalent prices of a Razer blade 15 and the MacBook Pro, and I have to say... There is no contest. The MacBook only managed more storage, but I can get my hands dirty and upgrade that myself, still cheaper
I tried the basic one and the custom highest one, neither of them could change the crazy fan noise and heating surface. Checked.
Lmaoo 3000? In Brazil it costs around 13000 in local currency 💀 its wayyyy cheaper to fly to the us and come back
i customized it the same way!!! base model upgrade ram, upgrade graphics and 1 tb!
Hi Luke, good video. Out of curiosity, why not buy your own RAM sticks and a 1TB SSD? That is what I do for all of my laptops and it will save you a couple hundred bucks. You typically get better performance from 3rd party accessories as well. If anything, spend your money on the processor and graphics card from the manufacturer :)
I just ordered the $2799 model for $2499.. so definitely worth getting that over the base model even on sale.
Finally I can stop watching and wishing I had a MacBook Pro... just bought my first MacBook Pro 16 inch from B&H photo. Got the $2799 model for $2499! Fantastic!
Hey I’m interested in that deal can you tell me where I can find it?, thanks !
I kind of went nuts and got the secret $3899 config which Apple Stores sometimes carry in stock but don't advertise. If you start with the Space Gray 2799 i9 model and up the CPU to the 2.4 i9, RAM to 32GB, GPU to 5500M 8GB, and SSD to 2TB, (an $1100 increase) it may show up as in stock for same day pickup at your local Apple Stores. The main things I wanted were, like you, the RAM and GPU upgrades. The RAM because I will be running some VMs on it. I debated about the 64GB but that upgrade is insanely expensive, and it seems to take longer for those to ship. VMWare can manage memory quite efficiently so I think 32GB will be enough for me. The GPU because a secondary use for me will be gaming, and I felt a bit more comfortable with the 8GB for some future proofing. The other reasons I bought this config are: 1) I recently got a nice bonus from work, so I could afford it 2) my work also gets me a small discount on Apple stuff. I got the $3899 config for $3665. 3) I could pick this config up in store same day. I'm traveling for work shortly, and the delivery dates on custom models were close to the bone for my travel dates. I'm happy with it so far, but I haven't really put it through all its paces yet. The speakers are INSANE! I'm very picky about laptop speakers so I'm in heaven with this thing. I would have preferred not to pay for the upgraded 2.4GHz i9 over the 2.3 because, like you, I think it's a waste of money. However, with my work discount, combined with saving some sales tax by driving to an Apple store in the next county :-) the difference for the CPU upgrade ended up being close to $100 instead of $200, so for the convenience of having the machine immediately, I decided to eat that cost. BTW I just found your channel and I've found your videos informative and enjoyable! Thank you!
Excellent video as always! I actually bought a 15 inch retina from 2014 but it doesn't quite cut the cake for me, especially considering the shoddy battery life (particularly considering mine had a new battery installed by Apple a couple of months ago), and the weight (that extra half pound definitely makes a difference). I actually have some money in my pocket for once and started getting spec boners again, but something told me that I personally would never use the extra power as the base model is super powerful already for someone that mainly does graphic design, heavy web browsing/multitasking, and the occasional 1080p video edit. This video only further helped clarify that, plus I love how they increased the screen size but kept the actual size of the computer the same, the good keyboard is back, and there is a physical escape key!!! Anyway, I'm gonna bite the bullet and drop 3 racks and some change (3000 CAD where I live plus a juicy 13% sales tax) but I think it will be well worth it and hopefully this machine will serve me for a long time.
Remember the days when the base spec MBP only had integrated graphics and you had to go to the "premium" tier to get discrete? what a joke. Glad to see a proper base model that is actually worthy of the "PRO" name. Upgraded model is still worth it if you make a living with your machine and the more content you are able to produce, the more money you make, such as if you are doing videos on a daily basis, that extra time you save is money in your pocket over time.
I'm really struggling here. I have the money and would love to upgrade my 2011 15" MBP, but I don't really need it that much and I should act like an adult and save money for more important stuff.. God damnit..
Freek Wijffels same here, apart from I have the 2011 17 inch
That isn't much of a change. The main thing is performance decay in 3-5 years.
There is no denying that Apple products, including this one, are well-made and easy to use. The Macbook base model is very overpriced. The $3,300 Macbook Pro model is designed and priced to make you think that by buying the base model you are getting a steal. The overly priced the Macbook Pro knowing that most people are not going to buy anyway. But it makes the overly priced base model like a great bargain.
Everything about your videos is top class except the sound since you moved to the new space (it has a slight hiss and echo). It doesn’t bother me but would love to see your channel grow and make you some of those well deserved UA-cam dollars. Go get it son and thanks for such great work!
The prices of Apple in Europe are ridiculous compared to US prices.
I've never understood why reviewers use render times on laptops. Who is out there rendering their videos on a laptop? editing sure, but rendering? Is it not normal to edit on your laptop and then render it out on your desktop? I know that's how I do it, mostly because no matter how good a laptop is, it will not compete with the 16 thread liquid cooled and overclocked red beast in my desktop. My laptop is no slouch, but I'm fairly certain my desktop processor could out-render my laptop's CPU and GPU combined. then we throw in the vastly more powerful GPU in my desktop and the comparison humorously one sided.
John Doe if you have a dual computers setup you can do. In your setup I will go with an air just just for portability. But most people they have only 1 computer.
You don’t need 32gb of ram if ur not gonna do crazy graphics or things of that nature
Well for my base model with 16gb of ram, I have some hope for 4k video editing since I could edit some short pieces of 4k video in the MacBook Air with 8gb ram,and even put it some effects. Since FCPX doesn't suck so much ram, I hope this base model lasts a few good years.
You deserve more subscribers, your videos are really good!
The price increase from 2.3 Ghz to 2.4 Ghz gives you 8 cores instead of 6 so it's more than just the frequency boost. It's a 33% performance improvement.
only between the base model and the upper model. for the upper model both have 8 cores.
I think the 8-core CPU is beaten down more than it should have in this video. Sure it is only 100mhz greater. But those 2 extra cores are 4 threads you can't take away.
Would you consider comparing the 16 inch to the 2012-2015 15 inch? I know a bunch of people who have that generation MBP and didn’t upgrade to the 2016-2019 Touch Bar MBP because of the keyboard issues, it’d be interesting to see the performance gains and overall improvements from the last Pro that had a good reputation (also a direct keyboard comparison would be cool cause I’m sick of hearing “Apple just put the old keyboard back in”)
Brilliant video Luke!