The little amp that Sundown forgot... No dyno test, not even pictures available on the site. I bought one anyway. Can't believe how loud it is compared to the 1000w Crescendo 4 channel it replaced. I can also double down and run it at 1 ohm in the future. I'm really happy with this lil guy.
3 yrs later and mine is still going strong! I live in South Florida and never had an issue. I will say the history of sfb amps burning up I have never bought another since 2020 sadly!
Running 8 6.5's in my doors also with a 500.4.. if you ask me I'm sold on SUNDOWN AUDIO, THERE PRODUCTS ARE AWESOME, RUNNING 4 6.5'S SA NEOPRO'S, CAN'T WAIT FOR EM TO MAKE A SHALLOW MOUNT SO I CAN RUN 8 TOTAL SUNDOWN'S ON THIS AMP 500.4
I just went out and bought this amp TODAY because of this video. I can't wait to run my first four-channel amp. All my door speakers are Memphis M-Class 6.5's I have been running off a head unit, with a Sundown SA-15 on a SFB3000 in the rear. Everyone has been telling me I need more power to the door speakers, so here I go.
@@cfmechanic Love it. It's so loud and clear, it makes my head unit sound like muffled ass. And it's a $600 Kenwood so it's not a cheap piece either. Actually the SFB200.4 has provided so much clean power to my door speakers that I upgraded my SFB3000 to the SFB5000, and doubled up on subwoofers. So even with 2 SA15's in a ported QBomb box, I can hear my mids and highs. The clip light is excellent for roughing in your gain setting, and the amp is tiny. It does get warm though.
Running this on a Infinity Kappa 6.5's which are 2.3 ohm nominal and an SFB 3000.1 on a pair of Deaf Bonce DB 275 15's. Upgrading to a SFB 5k this week. Loving these amps so far.
Sup D. Bought 2 of these 200.4s for highs and mids and 2 of the 3ks for 2 V2 12s. Couldn't be happier man. Cust service on pointe. Wish i could post a pic for advertising tho....
That was awesome, Great price, great wattage! Only problem for me, would be figuring out what I'd have it running. Lol. So many choices😁😁 Great break down for sure. Only question being, when it's bridged to 2 channel, can it run at 1ohm and what would the wattage output be?
What about the HEAT?? I'm sure we're gonna be running that amp for LONGER than a few seconds. How HOT will it get running that much power for ..... lets say ..... AN HOUR??
My spl vehicle charges pretty high would this amp be ok to see 15.5 to 16v without a problem? I’m in the market for a new 4 channel since mine hits protect after 15.2 so I’m in immediate need for a 16v stable 4 channel
OMG.....For $219 I am VERY impressed sir! I'm betting it sounds just as good. Class D has came so far it's crazy. I'm still trying to convince a lot of my fellow audiophile friends that they cannot not tell the difference. I'd gladly pay for shipping both ways to do some blind testing with this little beast and embarrass some egos. LOL. I have several sets of high end car audio speakers including my Hybrid Audio Legatia SE's that I love to use this amp on. Also the classic Sony C90 headunit. Either way sir, nice amp and video!
How do people like the sound quality of full bridge amps? It seems like somewhere there has to be a draw back to make all that power with a small footprint and small amount of components.
I have this amp and its the perfect beginner amp. Dont cheap out. This things stronger than the "2000w" $150 amps. Dont be fooled by scammer companies claiming 1000+w at under $250. About half as good as my old Kenwood 920w system i had
Great products, from tests I watch on UA-cam, but why such an incomplete website? I went with different amps and subs about 5 months ago simply because of how terrible the website was.
I wish I had the money to buy a couple of those amps, 2 6.5, and 2 8s. Your guys products are pretty awesome. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the video
IDK about anyone else but I have never had good luck with full bridge, whether it's some sort of feedback or interference, always running hot, high amp draw, low sq, even with a JL processor and C2 highs and mids. I have never had good luck with them. To wach their own.
@@thedraftdoctor1 I have always used Zapco or JL for my highs and mids. I have a Zapco ST-6X right now. Are they expensive YES!!!! lol but worth every penny. I tried a sound digital for a while and I hated it. I'm not a full bridge fan to begin with but from my experience and from what I have heard they just dont do it for SQ.
@@cragre28 wouldn’t that be seeing a .5 ohm load if he wired it as you described?The amps are rated at max of 1 ohm stereo that’s why when he did the bridged mono test he only went down to 2 ohms because the amp would be seeing half of what load you put on it unless I missed something which could be a possibility🤔
Will this unit run in mixed-mono (or God forbid using Kenwood's old terminology, Tri-Mode ?) for someone who wants to use this as part of a passive x-over designed setup ? For instance, taking Amp1 for the Left side and Amp2 for the right ? As an example, one stereo channel of Amp1 running a passive tweeter (front stage) along with the second stereo channel of Amp1 running a rear fill coax, then using the bridged channel for a big midbass for the front stage ? Obviously fader control goes out the window, but not without simple solutions (resistors). Would each 2 channel amp side run 'happily' with a 4ohm tweeter (with passive xover) and a 4ohm CoAx on each stereo channel with a 4ohm Midbass running bridged ? ....being fed from a simple highpass from the headunit ? Being that this little unit if 1ohm stable, it sure would solve alot of problems if it could run as described above, as the problem with most 2ohm stable 4 channels is that they are either too much or not enough power and cause most guys that like that punchy mid to power it separately from their tweeters, as the tradeoff is either popping tweeters and/or crazy steep xover slopes or underpowered midbass. Until someone builds a decently affordable 6 channel that is at least 100x2 with a pair of 50x2 channels in there somewhere, this might be a simple answer thanks to the acceptable impedance(s) supported.
hey man I bought 2 sfb amps but they make my speakers have a buzzing noise. is there any way I can reduce or eliminate that noise? I have high quality stinger RCAs and my other amps don't make this noise. thanks.
If you disconnect the RCA's, you can actually hear the amp clipping if you turn the gain up too much. Sounds like an electrical humming. Just back it down until it goes away. Hopefully that is your problem.
Des420, I really appreciate that info, I'm going to try that 1st thing in the morning,, but honestly for the power output of these Amplifiers I still wouldn't be upset,, I can get by the little noise with tunes turning heads,, loud as fuck amps!!! Love em, I sit n my car jamming out pissing off the neighbors,
@@bernee6969 No worries. Had some other issues myself recently and it's nice to try help with something similar... Especially these little amps. Was testing in the yard today and the neighbors were not too happy... So I sat out there for an extra 20 minutes. Not quite sure how less power can be louder, but I'll take it! Please post back whether or not it solves the issue. Hope so.
The little amp that Sundown forgot... No dyno test, not even pictures available on the site. I bought one anyway. Can't believe how loud it is compared to the 1000w Crescendo 4 channel it replaced. I can also double down and run it at 1 ohm in the future. I'm really happy with this lil guy.
3 yrs later and mine is still going strong! I live in South Florida and never had an issue. I will say the history of sfb amps burning up I have never bought another since 2020 sadly!
Im running the 500.4 on 8 6.5s and 4 comp super tweets. Brought my front stage in line with my sfb 8k on 4 15s.
Running 8 6.5's in my doors also with a 500.4.. if you ask me I'm sold on SUNDOWN AUDIO, THERE PRODUCTS ARE AWESOME, RUNNING 4 6.5'S SA NEOPRO'S, CAN'T WAIT FOR EM TO MAKE A SHALLOW MOUNT SO I CAN RUN 8 TOTAL SUNDOWN'S ON THIS AMP 500.4
I to have a sfb 3000
I will say that I piss the neighbors off often, lol. Does anyone know of some good shallow mount 6.5's to run
@@bernee6969 Timpano sound amazing!!
I just went out and bought this amp TODAY because of this video. I can't wait to run my first four-channel amp. All my door speakers are Memphis M-Class 6.5's I have been running off a head unit, with a Sundown SA-15 on a SFB3000 in the rear. Everyone has been telling me I need more power to the door speakers, so here I go.
Well how do u like the amp
@@cfmechanic Love it. It's so loud and clear, it makes my head unit sound like muffled ass. And it's a $600 Kenwood so it's not a cheap piece either. Actually the SFB200.4 has provided so much clean power to my door speakers that I upgraded my SFB3000 to the SFB5000, and doubled up on subwoofers. So even with 2 SA15's in a ported QBomb box, I can hear my mids and highs. The clip light is excellent for roughing in your gain setting, and the amp is tiny. It does get warm though.
Glad you tested this one cause I'm buying one before the end of the year!! Thanks bro!!
I would imagine a 3 channel setup would be nice with this amp. 90x2 and 450x1 is a decent little setup that wouldn't strain electrical.
Running this on a Infinity Kappa 6.5's which are 2.3 ohm nominal and an SFB 3000.1 on a pair of Deaf Bonce DB 275 15's. Upgrading to a SFB 5k this week. Loving these amps so far.
got this little amp when it came out for $189.99 hell of a deal and yes an awesome little amp.
Definitely getting one of those as soon as I can get the money
Not yet I focused on new subs and a box
@WeAreWatching Yu I bought 2 15inch skar sdr first and a box
@WeAreWatching Yu nope I got a custom box tune to about 35hz
@@jacobywalker8859 why so high on the tuning?
Sup D. Bought 2 of these 200.4s for highs and mids and 2 of the 3ks for 2 V2 12s. Couldn't be happier man. Cust service on pointe. Wish i could post a pic for advertising tho....
You sold me on it ordering mine right now to power my door speakers
I want to go with that amp for my future sundown 6x9 coaxials and 6.5 components in my Camry.
That's great that's y I love sundown
Not bad i am still wating for the salt 200.4 to match the salt 8k. Will they b out these year?
You can buy it rn...
@@imBriz where at i check d4sound n sundown websites
@@imBriz I'm not looking to buy one, but I couldn't find them listed, let alone for sale anywhere... Where are you looking?
Dude that little mister is awesome!!!!
I'm glad your back with the Uploads Derek 💯
Absolutely..gonna buy. Now all we need is sundown super tweets so we can match the midrange and neos
I do like the metal adjustment pots. Tired of seeing plastic which always winds up fubar!
That was awesome, Great price, great wattage! Only problem for me, would be figuring out what I'd have it running. Lol. So many choices😁😁
Great break down for sure. Only question being, when it's bridged to 2 channel, can it run at 1ohm and what would the wattage output be?
That will be running my highs in my truck soon!
Will you do a Woofer Test Wednesday with the 24” ZV5 ???
Perfect amp for highs and mids Derek. I see a very good use for an amp like that. I could sure use one here man.
32 gang🤘good look on the merch for CJ on 32. 32 gang🤘
The little amp that definitely could...
Finally lol. Love mine! Definitely recommend this!!
Impressive amp good power!
I have 1 badget amp the edge eda-200.4
I like to see what real power have!
Cool little amp!!! These aren't available in Puerto Rico!!!
Wow! This line of amps are awesome.
What about the HEAT?? I'm sure we're gonna be running that amp for LONGER than a few seconds. How HOT will it get running that much power for ..... lets say ..... AN HOUR??
I ran my sax100.4v2 at 1ohm Bridge once and it took out like a champ. 😅😅
My spl vehicle charges pretty high would this amp be ok to see 15.5 to 16v without a problem? I’m in the market for a new 4 channel since mine hits protect after 15.2 so I’m in immediate need for a 16v stable 4 channel
Just received mine on Saturday
Could you please make a video on how to properly set the cross overs for the subwoofers, mids, and highs ?
OMG.....For $219 I am VERY impressed sir! I'm betting it sounds just as good. Class D has came so far it's crazy. I'm still trying to convince a lot of my fellow audiophile friends that they cannot not tell the difference.
I'd gladly pay for shipping both ways to do some blind testing with this little beast and embarrass some egos. LOL.
I have several sets of high end car audio speakers including my Hybrid Audio Legatia SE's that I love to use this amp on. Also the classic Sony C90 headunit.
Either way sir, nice amp and video!
How do people like the sound quality of full bridge amps? It seems like somewhere there has to be a draw back to make all that power with a small footprint and small amount of components.
Impressive specs!
Awesome amp I want some of those now😍💪👍
I have this amp and its the perfect beginner amp. Dont cheap out. This things stronger than the "2000w" $150 amps. Dont be fooled by scammer companies claiming 1000+w at under $250. About half as good as my old Kenwood 920w system i had
I would like to know what you think about the D’amore amp E400.4 compared to this amp?
Are you guys having a black friday sundown audio sale?????
Great products, from tests I watch on UA-cam, but why such an incomplete website? I went with different amps and subs about 5 months ago simply because of how terrible the website was.
Waiting for them Salt multi channels
Love the amp. Is Sundown hiring?
Guarenteed over rated power💯
That's spelled, "guaranteed".
Hope Santa brings me one of those sucker bills right there.
What is the amp draw on this amp/current at 1 ohm. This may be what I need two of for my competition system I'm building for my 2015 street glide.
I love how the amp dyno name is even with the top of the screen
1 ohm stable, DAMN!
Don't ever run it below 1 ohm, get it wet or feed it after midnight... Or it will turn into a Gremlin and fry the amp. He forgot to mention that here.
will the 500.4 or 200.4 work well with speakers that are 150rms each
That thing is beast !!!!!!
The Sax 200.4 amp does big power at 2ohm on all 4 channels, I love my SAX 200.4 's. Only thing better would be a S.A.L.T 200.4 or 500.4
I know its been a long time, Anyway you can do part two of the nightshade?
When you testing the CAB-22 amp??
I wish I had the money to buy a couple of those amps, 2 6.5, and 2 8s. Your guys products are pretty awesome. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the video
Can this run 2 channels at 4 ohms for components and the other 2 channels bridged at 1 ohm for a subwoofer?
did you axidently decrease your video speed 5%?
I was gonna put 16 skar 6.5 mids on Sundown sfb 1000.4 but was dead on arrival.
Hell yea I would buy it i want to try sundown in my car
How is this amp so cheap ? (dollars obviously, not quality)..... Looks like I am going to give Sundown a try for my next system.
IDK about anyone else but I have never had good luck with full bridge, whether it's some sort of feedback or interference, always running hot, high amp draw, low sq, even with a JL processor and C2 highs and mids. I have never had good luck with them. To wach their own.
I always see output numbers but no real reviews on the sound quality of full bridge amps.
@@thedraftdoctor1 I have always used Zapco or JL for my highs and mids. I have a Zapco ST-6X right now. Are they expensive YES!!!! lol but worth every penny. I tried a sound digital for a while and I hated it. I'm not a full bridge fan to begin with but from my experience and from what I have heard they just dont do it for SQ.
100dB S/N ratio - nice!
Wish my sub was dual 4 instead of dual 2. This'd be sweeet.
Parallel the voice coils, then bridge 2 channels to run it for a 1 ohm nominal load.
@@cragre28 wouldn’t that be seeing a .5 ohm load if he wired it as you described?The amps are rated at max of 1 ohm stereo that’s why when he did the bridged mono test he only went down to 2 ohms because the amp would be seeing half of what load you put on it unless I missed something which could be a possibility🤔
@@TstackinWs1024 I misread it, you are right.
I got alpin R woofers how wood i set. That
Does it not do 1 channel bridged at 916 watts?
How much is that amplifier salt 8 I need two of them
Impressive
Dope amp!
Where can I get a shirt like that
Y’all need to bring a salt 500.4 amp
What do u mean unofficial I'm confused.
Sup Derek
Sae 3000d test ?
Will this unit run in mixed-mono (or God forbid using Kenwood's old terminology, Tri-Mode ?) for someone who wants to use this as part of a passive x-over designed setup ? For instance, taking Amp1 for the Left side and Amp2 for the right ? As an example, one stereo channel of Amp1 running a passive tweeter (front stage) along with the second stereo channel of Amp1 running a rear fill coax, then using the bridged channel for a big midbass for the front stage ? Obviously fader control goes out the window, but not without simple solutions (resistors). Would each 2 channel amp side run 'happily' with a 4ohm tweeter (with passive xover) and a 4ohm CoAx on each stereo channel with a 4ohm Midbass running bridged ? ....being fed from a simple highpass from the headunit ?
Being that this little unit if 1ohm stable, it sure would solve alot of problems if it could run as described above, as the problem with most 2ohm stable 4 channels is that they are either too much or not enough power and cause most guys that like that punchy mid to power it separately from their tweeters, as the tradeoff is either popping tweeters and/or crazy steep xover slopes or underpowered midbass. Until someone builds a decently affordable 6 channel that is at least 100x2 with a pair of 50x2 channels in there somewhere, this might be a simple answer thanks to the acceptable impedance(s) supported.
hey man I bought 2 sfb amps but they make my speakers have a buzzing noise. is there any way I can reduce or eliminate that noise? I have high quality stinger RCAs and my other amps don't make this noise. thanks.
Back the amp gains down a bit and see if that helps. If it's still there, get a $10 ground loop isolator from Amazon for the rca inputs.
Can u let me know if it works, mine are making it to, have a sfb 3000 an a 500.4
If you disconnect the RCA's, you can actually hear the amp clipping if you turn the gain up too much. Sounds like an electrical humming. Just back it down until it goes away. Hopefully that is your problem.
Des420, I really appreciate that info, I'm going to try that 1st thing in the morning,, but honestly for the power output of these Amplifiers I still wouldn't be upset,, I can get by the little noise with tunes turning heads,, loud as fuck amps!!! Love em, I sit n my car jamming out pissing off the neighbors,
@@bernee6969 No worries. Had some other issues myself recently and it's nice to try help with something similar... Especially these little amps. Was testing in the yard today and the neighbors were not too happy... So I sat out there for an extra 20 minutes. Not quite sure how less power can be louder, but I'll take it! Please post back whether or not it solves the issue. Hope so.
100
Dang, almost too much power for mids and highs. Definitely pro audio/spl gem just out right flexible so much you can do with this amp
We want marine capable amps.
No fan??😔
$how much $?
Google it.
Is this amp class D ?????????????????????????????
it's a taramp it will not last
MO POWA BAYBAY
Tiny price lol some people don't make shit
LOL “””inexpensive”””
What Class ??? A - A/B - D,E F G H I J K L M ....
3 years later it's $150 more. This economy sucks.
Would this Amp be good to run four 6×9s off it