he doesn't mention that unless the bike is completely completely upright you need somone to hold it upright else the paddock stand won't work his bike is magically already Completely upright
Great question. All you need to do is use the rear stand first which stands the bike upright. With a little practice doing this alone is easy. Then with the bike now upright you can use the front stand. He clearly states this in the video so next time watch the entire thing first. 😊
How is this so easy? How do you keep the bike upright not only lifting but lowering the bike? Especially with a heavier tall one like a versys 650? Its just a pain in the ass.
I usually grab the pillion bar with my left arm while the bike is resting on the side stand, and then maneuver the paddock stand with my right arm. I have never done that with anything bigger/heavier than an SV650S though, and I am not sure if I would want to.
I'm pretty new to biking, got an ktm duke 125 2018 at Christmas, just got a rear paddock stand this weekend (with the cups) never used one before, so of course I wanna be careful. Thought I'd watch to see how it's done correctly, but you didn't show using the cups, and with the bike on the side stand. This was of no help at all. Lol even if I had bobbins attached, my bike doesn't magically sit up straight.
Fair point, but I still reckon it could be done, you don't need to push hard on a bike to keep it balanced so one hand on the seat and one on the stand? Or potentially attach the paddock stand while the side stand is down and then use the paddock stand to raise the rear wheel?
@@Mihalyofficial a sidestand can take significantly more pressure than the bike weight, so even if you were to "drop" it from upright straight on it, it will not collapse.
Best to cover or coat rear stand in something to protect bobbins from big scratches or grooves in them like what has occurred in this vid. Wouldnt take long to snap them off
My preferred way is to get everything aligned and nip it up while it's on the stand and then make the final adjustments when it's on the ground. Sit on it and check at various places in the chain and get o from there. I generally make it as there's around an inch to 1¼ inch freeplay all the way. My bike is a 1993 Honda FireBlade for reference. Hope that helps 👍
Brilliant job here, 'Gov. Now how about showing how to properly lower it without dropping it? Whilst you're at it, show lowering a big, heavy bike that doesn't have a grab bar or seat strap to hold on to.
@Bloodred Pyrate Yep, that always worked for me with my Blades (900 & 1000 versions), while my first road bike (NSR250) was both light & sleek/non-bulky enough to do it on my own...rather godawful video from such a respected media publication though, as most people seeking such information as this require a more detailed guide & this video would make them feel either a) stupid after watching it, or b) freaking PISSED, when their bike tips over on them, as it looked so easy when "the guy on the video" did it...
Shaun Alexander that is what the adapters for the stands are for and the universal ones don't even need that. I can't believe how many people there are out there that can't operate a motorcycle stand...
Interesting to see several comments of people who think this vid is a waste of time as using the stand is dead easy. They watched it anyway. Nothing better to do, hey?
hehe.. the bike is just magically standing there, isnt it? Getting the bike off the side stand and onto the paddock can be a bit tricky if you havent done it before, and since this video is ment to be a guide.. Yes, the video should be a bit more detailed. Also he could have shown the spike-type front stand.
This video is actually quite misleading and dangerous to someone who believes the content of this video. Do not lift the rear end like they way that is shown in the tutorial as your bike will not be level it will be on side the stand. Somehow to make the video flow they balanced the bike before lifting it.
how was the bike magically straight when hewent to lift it from the rear?
Who thought they were going to learn how to do this without a buddy to hold the bike up for you?
Yeah idk how he thought this'd be helpful lol
Me
he doesn't mention that unless the bike is completely completely upright you need somone to hold it upright else the paddock stand won't work his bike is magically already Completely upright
What? That's why you do in order, so you don't need two people...
OMG Hanz!!! It's kinda biological instinct... He also didn't tell you to "click your mouse" before commenting... (Do you actually own a bike???)
@@dantevanniekerk But his bike does appear to be magically upright, how come? Before you ask I've owned loads of bikes but never used a paddock stand.
Great question. All you need to do is use the rear stand first which stands the bike upright. With a little practice doing this alone is easy. Then with the bike now upright you can use the front stand. He clearly states this in the video so next time watch the entire thing first. 😊
How is this so easy? How do you keep the bike upright not only lifting but lowering the bike? Especially with a heavier tall one like a versys 650? Its just a pain in the ass.
Right... so I leave the side stand up and hope my bike stays upright whilst I go and get my rear paddock stand, is this correct? ;)
I usually grab the pillion bar with my left arm while the bike is resting on the side stand, and then maneuver the paddock stand with my right arm. I have never done that with anything bigger/heavier than an SV650S though, and I am not sure if I would want to.
I'm pretty new to biking, got an ktm duke 125 2018 at Christmas, just got a rear paddock stand this weekend (with the cups) never used one before, so of course I wanna be careful. Thought I'd watch to see how it's done correctly, but you didn't show using the cups, and with the bike on the side stand. This was of no help at all. Lol even if I had bobbins attached, my bike doesn't magically sit up straight.
Another great video! Next in the series how to walk? Don't know what I'd do without MCN.
you'd probs fall over, Ahhgg I'm falling!
Fair point, but I still reckon it could be done, you don't need to push hard on a bike to keep it balanced so one hand on the seat and one on the stand? Or potentially attach the paddock stand while the side stand is down and then use the paddock stand to raise the rear wheel?
What about bikes without centre stands keeping them nice and upright for the paddock stand to be used ?
So how does the front stand sit with the fork leg? It's not at all clear
Definitely tricky. I've used a block of wood to rest the stand against. Helps upright the bike a few inches.
Yeah but the what about puttung it back down? The bike also rolls and could collapse the sidestand.
@@Mihalyofficial a sidestand can take significantly more pressure than the bike weight, so even if you were to "drop" it from upright straight on it, it will not collapse.
I would like to know which stand you were using thanks.
What most us want to know is...how to get the bike down off the paddock, by yourself without dropping it!
Just stand on the side without the kickstand
Yes I know that. Other things are obvious aswell. I just think it should be included in this video because it's an important part of it.
I thought Paul Daniels the magician died years ago! How does it stand upright with “look no hands@!!!!!!??????
Terrible tutorial, his R1 is already upright , we need it to be on the side stand then show how to use the rear stand !
Thnx, and also a good point..
And if you don't have grab rails, and just have wibbly wobbly plastic at the back of the bike? (Bar the rear subframe)
You look around for a friend!
Best to cover or coat rear stand in something to protect bobbins from big scratches or grooves in them like what has occurred in this vid. Wouldnt take long to snap them off
Decent ones will have a metal core.
HEY PEOPLE
IS IT BETTER TO USE A PADOCK STAND WHEN DOING CHAIN SLACK ADJUSTMENT OR THE SIDE STAND ?
My preferred way is to get everything aligned and nip it up while it's on the stand and then make the final adjustments when it's on the ground. Sit on it and check at various places in the chain and get o from there. I generally make it as there's around an inch to 1¼ inch freeplay all the way. My bike is a 1993 Honda FireBlade for reference. Hope that helps 👍
My dream bike
Is this for real?
Outstanding thx!
Brilliant job here, 'Gov. Now how about showing how to properly lower it without dropping it? Whilst you're at it, show lowering a big, heavy bike that doesn't have a grab bar or seat strap to hold on to.
Next week.. How to fill your bike up with petrol??
I don't imagine it would be overly difficult, usually grabbing a rear grab bar works well.
.....should have shown how to locate the front stand vis-a-vis the firk legs....
Worst demo ever, it's not the lifting it once the bike is on the bobbins it's getting the bike onto them that's the tricky part.
@Bloodred Pyrate Yep, that always worked for me with my Blades (900 & 1000 versions), while my first road bike (NSR250) was both light & sleek/non-bulky enough to do it on my own...rather godawful video from such a respected media publication though, as most people seeking such information as this require a more detailed guide & this video would make them feel either a) stupid after watching it, or b) freaking PISSED, when their bike tips over on them, as it looked so easy when "the guy on the video" did it...
You need to give more details how the bike came from the side stand to the paddock stand. An r1 does not have a double stand..lol
Shaun Alexander that is what the adapters for the stands are for and the universal ones don't even need that.
I can't believe how many people there are out there that can't operate a motorcycle stand...
next week how to use a spanner!
how to take it off the stand...
Eoghan Hennessy late, but reverse order and make sure the wheel is locked.
Just posting incase someone else sees and wants to know.
Yes. The problem is how to keep the bike vertical. He missed the biggest problem area
Yep. Like the Comment further down i have the bike on its side stand but in gear and then i lift.
Interesting to see several comments of people who think this vid is a waste of time as using the stand is dead easy. They watched it anyway. Nothing better to do, hey?
Because they want to know how to use it on their own with no one to help hold the bike upright. Use your brain 👍🏼
They didn't illustrate bringing the bike up off the kick stand that's the most important part.
I did in my video.
Link?
hehe.. the bike is just magically standing there, isnt it? Getting the bike off the side stand and onto the paddock can be a bit tricky if you havent done it before, and since this video is ment to be a guide.. Yes, the video should be a bit more detailed. Also he could have shown the spike-type front stand.
Hold back of bike before you insert stand. One man operation
Clean grips ?? There's an idea lol
Why can't you use a front stand on its own?
Rakesh you can...
Next up how to sit on a bike ......
Do you not call the spools "spools" across the pond? A lot of these are universal and dont use "bobbins" or spools.
I did, I'm so stupid, duh!!!
This video is actually quite misleading and dangerous to someone who believes the content of this video. Do not lift the rear end like they way that is shown in the tutorial as your bike will not be level it will be on side the stand. Somehow to make the video flow they balanced the bike before lifting it.
White r1 with gold wheels??...remove it from me face!!! Its very naughty and we wants it!!....
fail.
no info of use TAKE IT DOWN.
Literally gives no important information 😂😂
I literally didn't understand a word you said, and English is my first language. If you're going to make a tutorial video, you need to speak SLOWER!!
+mdippa What? Are you dim? He spoke very clearly. I'm a Norfolk boy and I understood every word of his (Essex?) accent.
@@davidcooper6704 Would he understand us lol
So many useless people that can't use a rear stand on their own 😂