This video is very justified, as I myself feel awkward about moving my bike around at times. I like to ride it, but when it's stationary, I can get into a wrestle with it.
While a schoolboy in Texas in 1959 I read a book by a British motorcyclist, Come Motorcycling With Me. Two years later I got my first, a Zundapp KS 600, while stationed in Germany. Here we are a few years later, and I am still learning from the Brits. Thanks for the help.
Been riding for 37 years and found this very interesting. I have very rarely had to push and pull a bike around, so I suppose the more you do it the better you are. Although I regularly do the side stand swivel. Always admired when motorcycle salesmen maneuver bikes around in small spaces. Thanks
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I ride a sports bike which I've found soooo.. difficult to manoeuvre in to the space where I keep it, because it's so heavy. I tried one of the methods that you mentioned, standing over the front wheel and holding the handle bars, and it works a treat!!! No more struggles! Love it! Thanks again, great video.
I am always tilting the bike to the side I am standing because I fear that If I keep it perfectly vertical but make mistake and tilt it just tiny bit to the other side I may not be able to prevent it from dropping.
Very helpful, I tried the standing over the front wheel today and this works great for tight spaces both going forwards and backwards. I tried it with a bicycle first and felt comfortable, then did the motor bike. Thank you.
Thanks for all the tips. Just bought my first bike.Before watching your video, been using half an hour to try adjusting the tail to getting out of the shed. Really difficult, also drop the bike to the shed wall. Good job it is only wood. After watching your video, now I can manoeuvres the bike with easy. Thanks
Some great tips there, however I have to spin my Versys 1000 thru 180 degrees in a tight area whenever I want to enjoy a ride on it so I purchased a Motorbike Turntable. One of the best investments I've made and turning my bike is not only a breeze now but safe too. If you don't like the idea of pivoting yours on the sidestand I'd thoroughly recommend researching turntables as they come in a variety of styles and costs (Centre Stand and Side Stand types)... well worth it and no fear of dropping your bike whilst performing the manouvre, ever!
Never saw most of this before. Just spent considerable time this morning moving bikes around in my crowded garage. Wish I had watched this first! Thanks, man!
My brother loves to leave his bikes lying around the back of my parents property. Quite frustrating as he lives a long way away and my parents aren't exactly fit. Now I can move them safely without fear of damaging anything. Much appreciated!
Great video, I am a smaller rider and will try these techniques. My friend used to have a Katana some years back and he used to turn it in his garage while it was on the center stand, chewed up the concrete floor a bit but it works.
Used my Paddock stand first time today. Absolutely, the bike wanted to stay up during setup and lift. The whole process was much easier than I expected.
Great Video! It will save people dropping their bikes and possible injuries. 👍 I would like to also see you do all of these maneuvering techniques, with heavier, and different types of bikes.
Saw the tip of using the side stand to spin the bike some years ago and do it almost every ride. Back it out of the garage and spin it round every time. Great tips.
Stand down is a great tip. I’d be cautious making a habit of pivoting your bike on it’s stand. Though I concede motorcycle traders and mechanics do this all the time. A mate used to do this on this on his Triumph Scrambler, manoeuvring the bike and to oil the chain maybe he was unlucky but his stand did break after only a couple of years.
Great tips there, thanks for posting. I was told by a dealer as regards spinning the bike around on the spot to be cautious with bikes that have cast side stands. He said in all the decades of trading the only side stands that he has ever had fail on him doing this were cast and that he had never had a welded pipe side stand fail.
The side stand pivot is genius. I was about to give up parking at my apartment because it's so tight that I couldn't get my bike in even after doing a 15-point turn - every day I end up having to use my arms to lift the rear of bike to get it in place. I'm gonna go to an empty parking lot and practice the pivot trick tomorrow.
Mike - Honestly, when I read the comments from the guys below I was devastated for you mate. I did not see the excitement I expected. I am a biker to my soul - BUTTTTTT - after 40 years without a bike ( but having ridden a few in between), I have NEVER - and I mean - NEVER seen a more valuable 7 minutes of God-Like wisdom, "Bikerly" speaking. Mike - that video was utterly awesome. Arise Sir Mike of TOP tips. Owning some heavy chaps in my stable (Early Goldwing for one) but also some later fire crackers (a 916SPS for one - just before your followers tell me I am an old, and useless tosser) - I was one of the first lads I know that understood counter steering back in 1978. My mates thought I was certifiable. We are (it seems) Unicorns Mike - but I am only here to pay homage to you - superb mate . Luvvit . Please don't hate me guys for being a normal, proper, non-whinging biker - for being too positive. Ride safe boys. Cheers
Just be careful. I tried this on my old bike (Aprilia Shiver) and the side stand switch stopped working. The stand bent just enough that it wasn't pressing the side stand switch, so now the bike thinks side stand is never engaged even when the stand is down.
The one thing which is impressive is.. Pushing the bike by holding the handles from front.. This is so good when u have heavy bikes and to push it upwards in a slope. Thanks for that tip..
Great video 👍...... Especially loved the tip of pulling and pushing the bike from the front..... Might as well try it...... The side stand pivot I have seen most of the garage technicians do it...... No complains of side stand damage.......
Spinning on the side is something I've done for many years also. Big disclaimer, if your kickstand starts to get loose, its ready to give out. I stopped doing it after having two bikes loose the stand, except for emergencies. To my fault, i used to do it all the time, but as a machinist put it, the metal bolts and aluminum frame are not designed for repeated heavy loads. Holding the weight (upright) is one thing, rotating it on the stand puts a lot of torque and pressure on the smaller bolts that support the large bolt.
Key point about the side stand from a technicians point of view, it is as he a said ‘prop’ stand, designed only to support the weight of the bike on when on the stand. When people get on to their (mainly) adventure bikes using the pegs to swing their leg over with the stand down, puts serious strain on the stand and the bracket and have seen my fair share of sidestands/brackets broken leading to further damage when their bike has collapsed underneath them.
you'd think if you can put the entire weight of the bike on the stand, then it would be fine with only a slight bit of leaning weight + the leaning weight of the rider.depends if you're 12 stone or 20 stone i guess.
Jake well it not the full weight, I’m no mathematician but due to the bike only leaning over a slight amount (bike dependent) it only has to support a 3rd of the weight for argument sakes. Then someone putting an extra 10 stone let’s say, directly on to the peg right by the side stand is not good for the bike and I’ve seen the results multiple times 🤷♀️
Being a short arse ,I regularly use the peg to swing my leg over the seat, but always from the right side of the bike. Done correctly it actually reduces the weight on the kickstand as soon as you put your weight on the right peg.
If you all are going to pivot on the side stand, make sure to buy an extra side stand for your bike, i know someone who did this and the stand cracked, bike would not go into first because it would shut off because of the sensor and was not safe leaving the bikes weight on the side stand, they had to wait 2 months for that back ordered part to come in!
Thanks for the Tips, but i noticed light orbs floating all around you while you were sitting in the Garage. Somtimes they were, in mass, then they disappeared. Camera issues or something else?
All good stuff. Although I don't think I'll ever do the side stand turn. As the chap mentions, and exactly as I thought when I saw a dealer do this manoeuvre last year, the side stand isn't designed to take that kind of weight. The Exeter Rider (youtuber) did make a turntable contraption that looked like it is a lot better for turning a bike on the spot. Although you have to wheel it onto the turntable ( basically a plank of wood with a pivot in the middle ) Pulling or pushing the bike from the front, I might be doing that one. Looks good for tight spots.
My bike is 2 months old and its handle loves to fall to the left. Because of this the bike sways hard to the right when I leave the handle at say 30mph owing to counter steering. Even the company mechanics can't figure out what is causing that. Is it a faulty 'T' or the cone set?
Put stringlines either side of your tyres and see if the front and rear line up with no more than 0.5cm offset. Sounds like a twisted frame or headset.
I would had to this watch the side stand if moving it when down (i always stick mine up) very easy for it to get knocked straight, move the bike, stand gets knocked back, rest it on the straight stand then crash, the bike goes down, also when dismounting the bike i always look down at the stand to make sure it's pointing forwards, a mate last year thought his was down, walked away from the bike then it fell as the stand was straight.
Appreciated, but I’ll still have mine leaning right the way into me, I’d rather throw myself under my own bike than it fall on the other side. Yep, I’m nuts!
By far the best motorbike video on UA-cam right now. I've always stood on sidestand side, and lean bike against me. It's always a fight (triumph tiger 1050 atm).... You get a massive thumbs up from me Lol at the 72 D***s giving thumbs down
Thank you mate some really good advise here. Definitely going to try moving around from the front. Its strange to think part of being a proficient motorcyclist starts without even getting on the bike. Ha Ha. Cheers.
Useful video. One question on the final method-spin method. Ducati Panigale and SF have their side stand attached to engine cases by means of the rear sets. Would this not put undue stress on engine cases possibly causing a crack?
Any ideas on how to get a BMW with boxer engine through a gap which is slightly too narrow for it? Glad I watched your video..many thanks for making it.
This video is very justified, as I myself feel awkward about moving my bike around at times. I like to ride it, but when it's stationary, I can get into a wrestle with it.
While a schoolboy in Texas in 1959 I read a book by a British motorcyclist, Come Motorcycling With Me. Two years later I got my first, a Zundapp KS 600, while stationed in Germany. Here we are a few years later, and I am still learning from the Brits. Thanks for the help.
Been riding for 37 years and found this very interesting. I have very rarely had to push and pull a bike around, so I suppose the more you do it the better you are. Although I regularly do the side stand swivel.
Always admired when motorcycle salesmen maneuver bikes around in small spaces.
Thanks
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I ride a sports bike which I've found soooo.. difficult to manoeuvre in to the space where I keep it, because it's so heavy.
I tried one of the methods that you mentioned, standing over the front wheel and holding the handle bars, and it works a treat!!!
No more struggles! Love it!
Thanks again, great video.
Brilliant this is by far the best bike maneuver I have seen. I picked up the front controller form the dealer as well. Thanks🇦🇺
I am always tilting the bike to the side I am standing because I fear that If I keep it perfectly vertical but make mistake and tilt it just tiny bit to the other side I may not be able to prevent it from dropping.
exactly, you must lean the bike a little to the side that you are on while pushing the bike.
Very helpful, I tried the standing over the front wheel today and this works great for tight spaces both going forwards and backwards. I tried it with a bicycle first and felt comfortable, then did the motor bike. Thank you.
You're a genius! I wanted to try this, but not with my Ducati, and now I'm going to give it a go first with a pushbike.
Cheers mate. brilliant idea.
The tip with the clutch was a great tip. Thanks!
Oh my gosh! The last one u made it look way so EASY!! I’m gona try that when i get home! BIG THANKS for all these informational techniques Sir!
Thanks for all the tips. Just bought my first bike.Before watching your video, been using half an hour to try adjusting the tail to getting out of the shed. Really difficult, also drop the bike to the shed wall. Good job it is only wood. After watching your video, now I can manoeuvres the bike with easy. Thanks
Some great tips there, however I have to spin my Versys 1000 thru 180 degrees in a tight area whenever I want to enjoy a ride on it so I purchased a Motorbike Turntable. One of the best investments I've made and turning my bike is not only a breeze now but safe too. If you don't like the idea of pivoting yours on the sidestand I'd thoroughly recommend researching turntables as they come in a variety of styles and costs (Centre Stand and Side Stand types)... well worth it and no fear of dropping your bike whilst performing the manouvre, ever!
This is the most useful information, regarding motorcycles, I've gotten from a youtube video, thanks.
Never saw most of this before. Just spent considerable time this morning moving bikes around in my crowded garage. Wish I had watched this first! Thanks, man!
Great tips, I have been riding for sixty nine years and this goes to prove that you can always learn something !
Not your usual motorcycle tips video but I’m glad I stumbled upon this!
My brother loves to leave his bikes lying around the back of my parents property. Quite frustrating as he lives a long way away and my parents aren't exactly fit. Now I can move them safely without fear of damaging anything. Much appreciated!
Great video, I am a smaller rider and will try these techniques. My friend used to have a Katana some years back and he used to turn it in his garage while it was on the center stand, chewed up the concrete floor a bit but it works.
Used my Paddock stand first time today. Absolutely, the bike wanted to stay up during setup and lift. The whole process was much easier than I expected.
Very interesting and helpful. Especially the spin on the side stand.
i don't know why i'm watching this, i don't even have a bike.
anyway thank you for making this video and sharing this tips with us.
I suggest you get a bike mate
@@fabiopunk1661 yes yes, one of my dreams is to own a bike, im working on it. thank you
Great Video! It will save people dropping their bikes and possible injuries. 👍 I would like to also see you do all of these maneuvering techniques, with heavier, and different types of bikes.
Great use of this downtime. Lots of valuable tips, all appreciated.
Hi there, thank you for your great tips & advice for moving motorbikes around, thank you .
Great video, lots of good tips, think I may skip the side stand pivot one though!
Saw the tip of using the side stand to spin the bike some years ago and do it almost every ride. Back it out of the garage and spin it round every time. Great tips.
I've done the last one on yzf125 never had a problem always been very easy to do
Class, thank you for your advice. I've been riding for years and didn't know these tips👍🏻
Excellent video.. have ridden bikes for 32 years, and my 4 bikes are on paddock stands.. I still get a little tense when I take them off..
Never expected Liam Neeson will give a motorcycle lecture to me.
It is Liam woo-wah Neeson. You're right!!
I am bit worry now.
He does not know who I am or what I want.
He has a special set of skills and he knows where you live.
Stand down is a great tip. I’d be cautious making a habit of pivoting your bike on it’s stand. Though I concede motorcycle traders and mechanics do this all the time.
A mate used to do this on this on his Triumph Scrambler, manoeuvring the bike and to oil the chain maybe he was unlucky but his stand did break after only a couple of years.
Great tips there, thanks for posting. I was told by a dealer as regards spinning the bike around on the spot to be cautious with bikes that have cast side stands. He said in all the decades of trading the only side stands that he has ever had fail on him doing this were cast and that he had never had a welded pipe side stand fail.
Great tips thanks. I'd love to see you spinning a Guzzi Sport around with its crazy forward stand.
The side stand pivot is genius. I was about to give up parking at my apartment because it's so tight that I couldn't get my bike in even after doing a 15-point turn - every day I end up having to use my arms to lift the rear of bike to get it in place. I'm gonna go to an empty parking lot and practice the pivot trick tomorrow.
That looks crazy, spinning the bike round
Mike - Honestly, when I read the comments from the guys below I was devastated for you mate. I did not see the excitement I expected. I am a biker to my soul - BUTTTTTT - after 40 years without a bike ( but having ridden a few in between), I have NEVER - and I mean - NEVER seen a more valuable 7 minutes of God-Like wisdom, "Bikerly" speaking. Mike - that video was utterly awesome. Arise Sir Mike of TOP tips. Owning some heavy chaps in my stable (Early Goldwing for one) but also some later fire crackers (a 916SPS for one - just before your followers tell me I am an old, and useless tosser) - I was one of the first lads I know that understood counter steering back in 1978. My mates thought I was certifiable. We are (it seems) Unicorns Mike - but I am only here to pay homage to you - superb mate . Luvvit . Please don't hate me guys for being a normal, proper, non-whinging biker - for being too positive. Ride safe boys. Cheers
i've been doing a 10 point turn every time to get the bike out, didn't think the side stand would take it but i'll be trying that one!
Just be careful. I tried this on my old bike (Aprilia Shiver) and the side stand switch stopped working. The stand bent just enough that it wasn't pressing the side stand switch, so now the bike thinks side stand is never engaged even when the stand is down.
If your side stand is attached to the motor, NEVER do it.
A few Ducati 1198-1098 have been ruined like that...
I believe some of the ducatis have aluminium side stands which are lightweight and can't take the full weight of the bike spinning on it.
The one thing which is impressive is..
Pushing the bike by holding the handles from front..
This is so good when u have heavy bikes and to push it upwards in a slope.
Thanks for that tip..
Great video 👍...... Especially loved the tip of pulling and pushing the bike from the front..... Might as well try it...... The side stand pivot I have seen most of the garage technicians do it...... No complains of side stand damage.......
Agree. If I hadn't seen it, I would have said that it's impossible. That guy knows his job. 😊
Spinning on the side is something I've done for many years also. Big disclaimer, if your kickstand starts to get loose, its ready to give out. I stopped doing it after having two bikes loose the stand, except for emergencies. To my fault, i used to do it all the time, but as a machinist put it, the metal bolts and aluminum frame are not designed for repeated heavy loads. Holding the weight (upright) is one thing, rotating it on the stand puts a lot of torque and pressure on the smaller bolts that support the large bolt.
Been pushing mine from the front for years . Never seen anyone do it before. Also you have the same outside chairs as me
Key point about the side stand from a technicians point of view, it is as he a said ‘prop’ stand, designed only to support the weight of the bike on when on the stand. When people get on to their (mainly) adventure bikes using the pegs to swing their leg over with the stand down, puts serious strain on the stand and the bracket and have seen my fair share of sidestands/brackets broken leading to further damage when their bike has collapsed underneath them.
gamekeeper687 Most of adventure bikes have a central stand. Doing same rotating trick (or swinging legs over) on a central stand do not harm the bike.
you'd think if you can put the entire weight of the bike on the stand, then it would be fine with only a slight bit of leaning weight + the leaning weight of the rider.depends if you're 12 stone or 20 stone i guess.
Alexander F I absolutely agree just my customers at least don’t seem to use them or certainly people I see at bike cafes etc
Jake well it not the full weight, I’m no mathematician but due to the bike only leaning over a slight amount (bike dependent) it only has to support a 3rd of the weight for argument sakes. Then someone putting an extra 10 stone let’s say, directly on to the peg right by the side stand is not good for the bike and I’ve seen the results multiple times 🤷♀️
Being a short arse ,I regularly use the peg to swing my leg over the seat, but always from the right side of the bike. Done correctly it actually reduces the weight on the kickstand as soon as you put your weight on the right peg.
Excellent gem of tips, thank you.
Works perfect, I use it all the time
I've just tried this and my Tracer 900 is currently lying on top of me. I can't move. PLEASE CALL FOR HELP!!!!
😂😂
What's the number to 911
Start with a 300cc just like me. In no time u will b flipping a 1000cc like a pancake😁
I note this was 3 days ago. Let me know if you still need help.
We can't help you with Covid 19 going on. 😕
Leaning over the front is a fantastic bit of advice
Thank you for the tips.
very helpful, thank you
Excellent video, Well done.
Really interesting advice. Worst injuries I ever got was falling off a stationary 1200 Bandit.
seeesh!
Thanks mate!
Make sure the stand is fully engaged before leaning bike over. Specially if your bike is heavy.
This was actually super helpful
This is gold!
Some accurate and useful info from MCN...
Hey this just the video I was looking for. Thankyou, I just bought a bike being delivered. Not much room to move it around to the back of the house.
Great tips, as I too have a sloping drive,
And the spin around looks so easy,
Hold in it on full lock.
I’ll have to try that one.
If you all are going to pivot on the side stand, make sure to buy an extra side stand for your bike, i know someone who did this and the stand cracked, bike would not go into first because it would shut off because of the sensor and was not safe leaving the bikes weight on the side stand, they had to wait 2 months for that back ordered part to come in!
Thanks!
Walking it backwards would have helped when my electric motorcycle ran out of power. Going to use that if I ever have that issue again.
I've done it all and it works.
Thankfully at this point in time I won't have to use any of your techniques. But I still enjoyed watching this video. 👍
Can you use the technique of pushing the bike from the front if it is a very heavy cruiser?
Thanks for the Tips, but i noticed light orbs floating all around you while you were sitting in the Garage. Somtimes they were, in mass, then they disappeared. Camera issues or something else?
yeah, great video!!!! cheers!!!!
Super useful! Ignore the haters.
Other than PG those are some of the best tips I've had!
I saw a dealer move a full size Harley Davidson on the stand like that, scared me but it worked great for him......I’d say you need to practice it.
All good stuff. Although I don't think I'll ever do the side stand turn. As the chap mentions, and exactly as I thought when I saw a dealer do this manoeuvre last year, the side stand isn't designed to take that kind of weight.
The Exeter Rider (youtuber) did make a turntable contraption that looked like it is a lot better for turning a bike on the spot. Although you have to wheel it onto the turntable ( basically a plank of wood with a pivot in the middle )
Pulling or pushing the bike from the front, I might be doing that one. Looks good for tight spots.
Great info!👌👏
Thank you for your advice! 👍
Keep up the good work 👏👏
Great Video!
Thanks
very good, now can we have a video on the TDR please
please do a video about that TDR you got to your left
TDR250! I had one of those!!
I miss mine so much.
Looks so easy. Okay i try it tomorrow
Super tips - thanks 👍
Great job. Txs
Great mate thanks 🇳🇿
My bike is 2 months old and its handle loves to fall to the left. Because of this the bike sways hard to the right when I leave the handle at say 30mph owing to counter steering. Even the company mechanics can't figure out what is causing that. Is it a faulty 'T' or the cone set?
Put stringlines either side of your tyres and see if the front and rear line up with no more than 0.5cm offset. Sounds like a twisted frame or headset.
Very useful during the lockdown period
Wish this was possible to do on my hatley
I would had to this watch the side stand if moving it when down (i always stick mine up) very easy for it to get knocked straight, move the bike, stand gets knocked back, rest it on the straight stand then crash, the bike goes down, also when dismounting the bike i always look down at the stand to make sure it's pointing forwards, a mate last year thought his was down, walked away from the bike then it fell as the stand was straight.
I wouldn't care what they were saying about motorcycles, I'd watch it.
Appreciated, but I’ll still have mine leaning right the way into me, I’d rather throw myself under my own bike than it fall on the other side. Yep, I’m nuts!
I dropped my bike last month NOT doing that. I usually lean it into myself also but wanted to move it after working on it.
yep, doesnt need much , just a little bit makes it feels safer
I'd rather have to replace a few indicators and fix some scratches than have a 150kg bike land on my leg.
Quite useful tips, thanks!
Good tips. How about some tips on how to load a bike on a trailer and in a van.
Great tips I will have a practice
By far the best motorbike video on UA-cam right now.
I've always stood on sidestand side, and lean bike against me. It's always a fight (triumph tiger 1050 atm).... You get a massive thumbs up from me
Lol at the 72 D***s giving thumbs down
Thank you mate some really good advise here. Definitely going to try moving around from the front. Its strange to think part of being a proficient motorcyclist starts without even getting on the bike. Ha Ha. Cheers.
Hmmm, I'm gonna try pushing from the front. That's an interesting one!
Nice, got to practice the front maneuvers
Useful video.
One question on the final method-spin method.
Ducati Panigale and SF have their side stand attached to engine cases by means of the rear sets.
Would this not put undue stress on engine cases possibly causing a crack?
Any ideas on how to get a BMW with boxer engine through a gap which is slightly too narrow for it? Glad I watched your video..many thanks for making it.
I want that TDR !
I had a black & yellow 1 around 89 / 90 sold it for a rgv250 m .
Nicely done sir! 🏍
Is it okay to move or push the 150cc motorcycle backward for 60 meters almost everyday.because small pathway.. Hard to turn around..
Thank you for sharing sire
Tried this on my goldwing a year ago, im still stuck under it
Quaiity! This will probably prevent a drop in the future! :)
Or cause one