To be fair though, a song about the idol worship of a baseball player is not exactly Punk. If that's what that song was supposed to be. I don't care if Sid Vicious was singing it it's just not Punk
@@charlesandrews2360 how come? I mean the overlap of sports and music goes far beyond the surface. Charboneau was a cult hero in Cleveland. I would get it if it was a song worshipping a widely recognized player, but as a former punk rocker (not that this gives me 100% authority) I think creating a song about a player such as Charboneau is punk af.
@@nomorefielders it's just an opinion. I was at disco demolition so I am familiar with the crossover music and sports. I was not a fan of that radio station but I was a die-hard White Sox fan happy to get into the game for $0.98.
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When I was in college I stepped out of my dorm room and walked right into Joe. Apparently he was friends with the guy living across from me. It was just after his rookie year and everyone at BGSU knew of him. I asked him to sign my yearbook from high school since that was the only thing I had . He signed it.. "Keep your grades up and your c*ck down ". I know injuries ruined his career but I still have an x rated yearbook memory from meeting him.
@@zeldafreak1975 yes. he is in movie throughout in any sort of team gathering. his most proficient scene is a head first slide into third base near end of movie during playoffs or final game.
Joe gave me hitting lessons when I was a teenager. While I never made it as a baseball player, I had a lot of great memories with Joe and my father growing up.
Amazing that you’d pick Joe Charboneau to feature. In 1980 I was a photojournalist with a suburban Cleveland newspaper and we were working on a big feature story on Joe. He generously agreed to meet me at his house where I photographed him with his 1950s hot rod. Although I was just a couple years younger than Charboneau, I was early in my career and felt a bit intimidated meeting the rising star. However, I remember him to be very welcoming and down to earth. I only spent 20 minutes with Joe, but I’ll never forget it.
To show you where, when and how I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American (showing HOW I grew up). What happened to Grady Sizemore? I thought that he was going to be a longtime star. And, speaking of a former Cleveland, I think that Ben (The Frenchman) Broussard got SCREWED in Seattle by Mike Hargrove. Made him a bit player. Broussard could have been a 20 HR player, if he got to play regularly. Not to hijack too much, but I don't feel like Mariners fans ever fully warmed up to Mike Hargrove (that crusty old grouch).
@@brianruyack7632 I remember the whole Super Joe thing but you wanna know what I remember more? Cory Snyders absolute cannon. He could throw the ball to fucking mars
@@unappealingundesirable2826 So the first thing you do is pathetically race-bait and then expect a response to the rest of your, otherwise appropriate, question. Pathetic.
As a life long Pittsburgh resident who is 59 years old, I was playing little, pony, and colt leagues in the 70's. I can't believe I don't remember this dude. Thank you so much for such an interesting and well made tribute to this man. I'm very impressed !
I was 7 years old in 1980 and it was the first year I really became aware of what was going in sports. I'll never forget . I always wondered what had happened to him
When I was growing up in Cupertino, my best friend's mom worked with Joe's mom at Kaiser Hospital in Santa Clara. We knew about Joe early on and I was able to get his autograph on a Spartanburg Phillies farm team envelope. Of course when he made it big I treasured it..... and still have it today.
I graduated Cupertino High School in 1981...James Harley...one of 4 Harleys that graduated CHS...Go Pioneers...delivered Papers to Steve Jobs...watched Kurt Rambis as a Junior High Schooler because my brother was class of 77...sister class of 1979...Kurt was larger than life...future Laker...Lived my first 17 1/2 years in Cupertino California. lived near Vallco Mall...I followed baseball and definitely looked forward to the box scores in the morning paper in those days. GREAT TIMES!
@@jameshar9592 Monta Vista 1980 grad. Also saw Rambis play Monta Vista many times. That area was a hotbed of basketball talent. Also saw Mark McNamara from Del Mar play many times during that same time. Did you know either of the Watt boys? Beth Falkowski? Jeanie Fitsimmons? All went to CHS and graduated the same year as you or close to it.
Great stuff! Really appreciate that you chose to celebrate a bolt of lightning rather than wax maudlin about the gloom that follows it. Thanks for the insights!
I lived in Cleveland when Joe appeared. Those were exciting times! Another amazing player was Ron Blomberg with the Yankees. When he came up to the plate, he looked like a giant playing a boys' game. He burned fast and brightly.
Ron Blomberg ("Boomer" to his longtime Yankee fans like me) was something special. My memory of him was of two things: the bat always looked like it was made of balsa wood when he swung, and his line drive homers would take only a second or two to go out. His muscular strength was his undoing as he kept pulling muscles over the years. I worked in sports radio and interviewed him some years ago; there was still that tinge of sadness to him, that "what might have been" vibe. I collect Yankee memorabilia, and every Blomberg piece is also signed "First AL DH". I know he wanted to be remembered for so much more.
You tell a great story! I mean that in the best sort of way! You nailed the zeitgeist of that era and tied it to a baseball player. Love it! From now on Super Joe is SO PUNK! Well done!
Thank for an interesting and well done video. The punk rock portion was the perfect device for tying the short but wonderful Charboneau era to the NE Ohio vibe of the early '80's. Kudos.
Me watching the part about punk rock: I really don't understand how any of this has anything to do with a baseball player. Me watching the Joe Charbaneu song: Holy shit I stand corrected.
@@sludge4125 He was banned from at least Johnny Malloys and is currently forbidden from holding baseball clinics on Ridgeville’s complexes because of multiple incidents.
Saw him play in Charleston. Great guy, just no pop left in his bat from the back injury . I have an autographed card and a picture with him during warmups one game. Chris Bando was also on that team
Where is Joe? He lives right down the street from me in Cleveland and we have a beer together every now and then. He is one of the kindest human beings you will ever meet. He has a heart the size of Municipal Stadium!!! If you would like to do a follow up I could talk to him. GO SUPER JOE!!!
I'd like to see that interview based off of this. Very intriguing topic, I'm sure he's a happy man despite the setbacks with injuries in baseball... also would want to hear his response to the folklore!
I DO remember Joe. We ALL thought he was gonna be the shit after his first year. Ah, well. That's life. " Where have you gone Joe Charbenou, our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".
i would have been glad to have only been a one hit wonder. I live in STL and have been a Cards fan with memories being old enough to follow them starting in 1960 and yet I remember Joe Charboneau with the Cleveland Indians, and they were in the American League. Good baseball story.
Thanks for an VERY entertaining video. I grew up in nearby Akron and the military sent me to Alaska after high school. The first visit back to Akron was with a new bride and Super Joe treated us to a big night of offense in old Municipal Stadium. The fireworks after his homerun is a great memory and a good way to start a marriage.
As a NYer in the 70s , I remember Joe C playing against my Yankees. Don't remember that shot into the left field upper deck, though. Interesting stuff on the Cleveland punk scene. We had Lou Reed , & CBGB,s did t know about the music scene in Cleveland. Nice job with this ..⚡
cleveland had The Waitresses "I know what boys like" Screamin Jay Hawkins I put a spell on you"The Moonglows ,The O Jays, Levert,The Dazz Band,.recently Kid Cudi < Machine gun Kelly, Bone thugz n Harmony,The James Gang,.Nine inch nails, Mushroom head,The black keyes,Tracy Chapman,Eric Carmen & the raspberries,Frankie Yankovi,Chrissie Hynde,Bull Moose Jackson..sooooo many national & international groups..........itz not by accident that the rock & roll hall of fame is there
I know of him because It was my 1st full year of collecting sports cards, and being the 1980 rookie of the year, his card was one to have in 1981. Back in those days, his card value went from 10 cents to 2 cents in a year 😂
I always remember this guy because Dave Stapleton was runner-up for RoY. Stapleton had a really nice season replacing an injured Jerry Remy. Stapleton would have won the award a lot of years. Stapleton got one standard divination worse every season for the rest of his career but if he had been on the field in game six of the 86 series my teenage years would not have been ruined
I saw Harmon Killebrew hit a home run there in 1970. Joe DiMaggio also hit a home run there according to old timers. This unobjective, unimportant, non neutral video is written by homers, aka Cleveland Indians fans.
Loved going downtown, a ten-minute bus ride, to see The Tribe in '80, paying a buck to go into the bleachers and, with Municipal Stadium being so empty, by the 4th inning me and my buddies would be sitting behind The Tribe's dugout. Loved the sound of his bat when Joe would hit ropes into the left field stands. Always will remember that sound.
On June 9th 1980 Charboneau hit a 3 run homer against the Yankees during a day game and at night sat in as a guest drummer for The Pagans. He then won MLB ROOKIE OF THE YEAR and a Grammy. Only Roger Maris was able to accomplish something similar when he hit 61 homers in 1961 and sing backup on "Runaway" by Del Shannon.
Charbs was the hitting coach on a team I played for and he was every bit the character the stories make him out to be. But he was also fiercely loyal, the type of guy who always has your back, a hard worker willing to help the hitters whenever or wherever they needed, and someone who clearly cared about his players and the job he was there to do.
** Cleveland didn't go bankrupt, it went into default. The reason is that powerful financial institutions in Cleveland, who held the City's loans, tried to blackmail the City into selling its public energy utility. Cleveland Mayor Dennis Kucinich said, we're not selling. This is the only time in American history that a city government so pissed off its loan holders that the loans were called in, causing a default. Kucinich has since been vindicated as Cleveland residents have saved millions on their energy bills.
Thanks for the correction. I’m definitely not an expert in local government so when I saw that the city defaulted on it’s loans, I assumed that could be categorized under bankruptcy. Thank you for the clarification.
This man is correct...Cleveland needed its heroes back then and Kucinich was the youngest mayor elected to a major US city and was considered a hero for the working man back then, Super Joe was a big deal that year, he was in left field the night Large Len Barker pitched his perfect game.
The closest thing to the next Reggie Jackson that I ever saw was Josh Hamilton, who unfortunately battled drug and alcohol abuse for many years. I saw Joe Charbonneau play when he first came up. Good player but I didn't think he was in the elite class of players......the only thing I remember about him was that he could drink beer from his nose.
I watched Hamilton as a rookie with the Reds and it was obvious in a second that he had rare gifts . Anyone with baseball sense could see it. That guy was a once in a lifetime talent
Little known fact, Joe Charboneau had a teammate friend named Kevin rhomberg, who was from Dubuque Iowa which is where I am also from. Kevin rhomberg was another example of a great hitter. Cleveland I think mishandled his career also. There's always too much pressure to give players of lesser ability south-of-the-border the first shots
There was a movie called ship of fools that had a scene where a ballplayer relates how after an amazing rookie season it got out he couldn't hit a specific pitch and all he ever saw after that was that pitch. I always thought that was the deal here
I can’t remember the year, around 1989 or close to that, I was visiting in Hawaii. Inadvertently went to a minor league game, forget the name of the team, you guys can look it up. Sure enough, Joe came to bat and clubbed a homerun
I remember Len Barker's perfect game, but he kinda flamed out too. As a Tigers fan Indians always seemed to never be able to fully put it together in the 80's.
Frank Howard did indeed hit a tremendous homerun off Whitey Ford in Game 4 of the '63 Series. It happened, however, not at Yankee Stadium, but at Dodger Stadium. The first two games of that series were played in New York, while the final two were held in Los Angeles.
Yeah, even near the end of his one good season, he was already losing it. But it was a great story for 2/3rds of the season, and he evidently was a great guy.
Wow! That's a name from my younger days. Thanks for memories. I spent a few months in Cleveland in the early '70s. The city with the river that caught fire. lol Ah, Cleveland. I don't miss that city at all.
Spent the summers as a kid in Canton Ohio, remember the season, song and player well. Always wondered what happened to him as a player. Cool video, thanks
Watched the game on TV where Joe hit the ball into the upper deck in left field at Yankee Stadium. Guys would hit the ball into the upper deck in right field all the time but you never saw it in left. It was truly monumental. I was a 15 year old Yankees fan but couldn't help but to become of fan of the quirky young Cleveland outfielder.
I remember him very well, I was a kid and I been a Yankees fan since 1976 I definitely remember "Joltin" Joe Charboneu hit BOMBS!! He just faded away, I always remembered him though.Him and Mark the "Bird" Fidrych Were Super stars that popped up and faded away.
I met Frank Howard at an A’s game in 1979 when he was a coach with the Milwaukee Brewers. A giant of a man,my hand disappeared in his when he shook it. As an eight-year-old kid I was in awe of his size. But,he couldn’t have been nicer!
This was such a blast to work on! The intersection between my 2 favorite subjects is never something that won’t interest me.
To be fair though, a song about the idol worship of a baseball player is not exactly Punk. If that's what that song was supposed to be. I don't care if Sid Vicious was singing it it's just not Punk
@@charlesandrews2360 how come? I mean the overlap of sports and music goes far beyond the surface. Charboneau was a cult hero in Cleveland. I would get it if it was a song worshipping a widely recognized player, but as a former punk rocker (not that this gives me 100% authority) I think creating a song about a player such as Charboneau is punk af.
@@nomorefielders it's just an opinion.
I was at disco demolition so I am familiar with the crossover music and sports. I was not a fan of that radio station but I was a die-hard White Sox fan happy to get into the game for $0.98.
@@charlesandrews2360 oh that’s awesome! I totally get it though. Everyone has their own perspective
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When I was in college I stepped out of my dorm room and walked right into Joe. Apparently he was friends with the guy living across from me. It was just after his rookie year and everyone at BGSU knew of him. I asked him to sign my yearbook from high school since that was the only thing I had . He signed it.. "Keep your grades up and your c*ck down ". I know injuries ruined his career but I still have an x rated yearbook memory from meeting him.
Great story
So cool. 😎
Great memory!
Well, as they say: "No great cocktail story ever started over a salad."
Why can’t you do both… lol
What college West Valley
well since nobody mentioned it- Joe C. was also an extra in " The Natural" with Robert Redford
Yeah in some ways his life paralleled the natural
Not surprising, since the movie was filmed mainly at War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo while Charboneau was a Bison.
Nice add on,cheers .
Happen to know which scene?
@@zeldafreak1975 yes. he is in movie throughout in any sort of team gathering. his most proficient scene is a head first slide into third base near end of movie during playoffs or final game.
Joe gave me hitting lessons when I was a teenager. While I never made it as a baseball player, I had a lot of great memories with Joe and my father growing up.
Baseball Historian has returned, and this time he even brought a friend!
Was a teammate of Joe's on a 1975 summer league team, he's a sweetheart.
I remember him
Did he looked like he had lots of baseball talent.
A sweetheart? 😉
@@DanHolmes-o9b yep
I never thought someone would mention Dead Boys and the Velvet Underground in a baseball video, but here we are. And I love it.
Yeah the internet has some pretty crazy videos
Me too!
And it was totally pointless.
@@marswillrule2431 someone’s mommy clearly didn’t give them a kiss on the forehead today. You wanna talk about it, champ?
Amazing that you’d pick Joe Charboneau to feature. In 1980 I was a photojournalist with a suburban Cleveland newspaper and we were working on a big feature story on Joe. He generously agreed to meet me at his house where I photographed him with his 1950s hot rod. Although I was just a couple years younger than Charboneau, I was early in my career and felt a bit intimidated meeting the rising star. However, I remember him to be very welcoming and down to earth. I only spent 20 minutes with Joe, but I’ll never forget it.
Nicely done! I've met Joe a few times over the last couple of years. He's a blast. Just a really great guy.
I feel like he has some awesome stories to tell
Where's he at these days? Not California right ?
I remember this guy's rookie season; it really looked like Cleveland had a longtime star on their hands.
Remember the Sports Illustrated curse? Joe and Cory Snyder on the cover. I was a Tribe fan in Royals country then.
To show you where, when and how I grew up: Born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Japanese-American (showing HOW I grew up). What happened to Grady Sizemore? I thought that he was going to be a longtime star. And, speaking of a former Cleveland, I think that Ben (The Frenchman) Broussard got SCREWED in Seattle by Mike Hargrove. Made him a bit player. Broussard could have been a 20 HR player, if he got to play regularly. Not to hijack too much, but I don't feel like Mariners fans ever fully warmed up to Mike Hargrove (that crusty old grouch).
@@brianruyack7632 I remember the whole Super Joe thing but you wanna know what I remember more? Cory Snyders absolute cannon. He could throw the ball to fucking mars
@@unappealingundesirable2826 Grady Sizemore had a lot of injuries that curtailed his career.
@@unappealingundesirable2826 So the first thing you do is pathetically race-bait and then expect a response to the rest of your, otherwise appropriate, question. Pathetic.
As a life long Pittsburgh resident who is 59 years old, I was playing little, pony, and colt leagues in the 70's. I can't believe I don't remember this dude. Thank you so much for such an interesting and well made tribute to this man. I'm very impressed !
I was 7 years old in 1980 and it was the first year I really became aware of what was going in sports. I'll never forget . I always wondered what had happened to him
Ya..I remember this dude. He was the next big character in baseball after Mark the Bird Fidrych had just flamed out.
Mark was a great guy
Clint Hurdle was another failure
Fidrych tore up his shoulder and arm.
Unbelievable work, man! Never heard of Charbonneau before... What a personna! Thank you, long live baseball! Cheers 🍻🍻
Once again.. a masterpiece!! Bravo for Super Joe. Baseball Historian.. you're damn good at this.
Super Joe Charbonneau - what could have been, yet he made history.
First time seeing this channel. This guy is amazing !
When I was growing up in Cupertino, my best friend's mom worked with Joe's mom at Kaiser Hospital in Santa Clara. We knew about Joe early on and I was able to get his autograph on a Spartanburg Phillies farm team envelope. Of course when he made it big I treasured it..... and still have it today.
Great Story here. Thanks for Sharing it.
Do you know what high school he went to? I went to Cupertino but lived in Santa Clara okay
@@PlumbNutz He went to Buchser HS
I graduated Cupertino High School in 1981...James Harley...one of 4 Harleys that graduated CHS...Go Pioneers...delivered Papers to Steve Jobs...watched Kurt Rambis as a Junior High Schooler because my brother was class of 77...sister class of 1979...Kurt was larger than life...future Laker...Lived my first 17 1/2 years in Cupertino California. lived near Vallco Mall...I followed baseball and definitely looked forward to the box scores in the morning paper in those days. GREAT TIMES!
@@jameshar9592 Monta Vista 1980 grad. Also saw Rambis play Monta Vista many times. That area was a hotbed of basketball talent. Also saw Mark McNamara from Del Mar play many times during that same time. Did you know either of the Watt boys? Beth Falkowski? Jeanie Fitsimmons? All went to CHS and graduated the same year as you or close to it.
Great stuff! Really appreciate that you chose to celebrate a bolt of lightning rather than wax maudlin about the gloom that follows it. Thanks for the insights!
I lived in Cleveland when Joe appeared. Those were exciting times! Another amazing player was Ron Blomberg with the Yankees. When he came up to the plate, he looked like a giant playing a boys' game. He burned fast and brightly.
True. Ronnie Blomberg's recoil was almost as violent as his swing.
I had heard that Blomberg would pig out on hot dogs before a game. True? I don't know.
First designated hitter in majors, Ron Blomberg.
an injured back will do that to a guy
Ron Blomberg ("Boomer" to his longtime Yankee fans like me) was something special. My memory of him was of two things: the bat always looked like it was made of balsa wood when he swung, and his line drive homers would take only a second or two to go out. His muscular strength was his undoing as he kept pulling muscles over the years. I worked in sports radio and interviewed him some years ago; there was still that tinge of sadness to him, that "what might have been" vibe. I collect Yankee memorabilia, and every Blomberg piece is also signed "First AL DH". I know he wanted to be remembered for so much more.
You tell a great story! I mean that in the best sort of way! You nailed the zeitgeist of that era and tied it to a baseball player. Love it! From now on Super Joe is SO PUNK! Well done!
Thank for an interesting and well done video. The punk rock portion was the perfect device for tying the short but wonderful Charboneau era to the NE Ohio vibe of the early '80's. Kudos.
Yeah, nice piece. I was installing commercial telephone systems in downtown Cleveland in 1980. Fun times. Remember Funky Poodle?
@@JoeP3300 Hmm...Funky Poodle doesn't ring a bell with me but I do remember Ghoulardi.
Me watching the part about punk rock: I really don't understand how any of this has anything to do with a baseball player.
Me watching the Joe Charbaneu song: Holy shit I stand corrected.
Rock N Roll brother
Duuude another slapper of a vid. LOVED the diversion into the history of Cleveland punk. Very cool and fun story!
Thank you so much for watching!
I can tell they pulled ideas from this footage for the first Major League film. Lol
He's now a chiropractor in North Ridgeville, Ohio with a penchant for getting in bar fights.
he has to be a senior by now...lol
Well, you got the North Ridgeville part right. 🙄
@@sludge4125 He was banned from at least Johnny Malloys and is currently forbidden from holding baseball clinics on Ridgeville’s complexes because of multiple incidents.
A Chiropractor has to drum up business somehow, lol just kidding. Joltin Joe Charboneau, I remember him well. Best Wishes to him.
@@dodgerblue7381 Super Joe. I wonder if he can still drink beer through his nose.
Saw him play in Charleston. Great guy, just no pop left in his bat from the back injury . I have an autographed card and a picture with him during warmups one game. Chris Bando was also on that team
Riverdogs game?
@@ajlewis765 Charleston, WV not SC.
At 12 yrs old in 1980, I remember him well. Especially, growing up 30 miles from Cleveland. Thanks for this!!!
Where is Joe? He lives right down the street from me in Cleveland and we have a beer together every now and then. He is one of the kindest human beings you will ever meet. He has a heart the size of Municipal Stadium!!! If you would like to do a follow up I could talk to him. GO SUPER JOE!!!
I'd like to see that interview based off of this. Very intriguing topic, I'm sure he's a happy man despite the setbacks with injuries in baseball... also would want to hear his response to the folklore!
He is beyond humble. Such a nice guy!!!
As a fellow Clevelander, I really appreciate this documentary
Glad we could provide some quality entertainment
I immediately went and bought his card for $1, just like Perimeter Pascual. More videos on quirky players like those 2 guys please.
2 thumbs up for this suggestion
I doing the same thing......
Are you talking about Pascual Perez?
I DO remember Joe. We ALL thought he was gonna be the shit after his first year. Ah, well. That's life. " Where have you gone Joe Charbenou, our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you".
Brings a tear to my eye
@@nomorefielders , c'mon.If you were following baseball then, you WERE rooting for Joe.
Woo,woo,woo.!
@NotPearlRoblox , that's good. Tell him to enjoy his senior years. He was a very good player. :)
Met him many times at Tribe functions in the Cleveland area, such a class guy and still in phenomenal shape well past his 50's!
i would have been glad to have only been a one hit wonder. I live in STL and have been a Cards fan with memories being old enough to follow them starting in 1960 and yet I remember Joe Charboneau with the Cleveland Indians, and they were in the American League. Good baseball story.
That was so much fun to watch! Thank you!
Thanks for an VERY entertaining video. I grew up in nearby Akron and the military sent me to Alaska after high school. The first visit back to Akron was with a new bride and Super Joe treated us to a big night of offense in old Municipal Stadium. The fireworks after his homerun is a great memory and a good way to start a marriage.
As a NYer in the 70s , I remember Joe C playing against my Yankees. Don't remember that shot into the left field upper deck, though.
Interesting stuff on the Cleveland punk scene.
We had Lou Reed , & CBGB,s did t know about the music scene in Cleveland.
Nice job with this ..⚡
cleveland had The Waitresses "I know what boys like" Screamin Jay Hawkins I put a spell on you"The Moonglows ,The O Jays, Levert,The Dazz Band,.recently Kid Cudi < Machine gun Kelly, Bone thugz n Harmony,The James Gang,.Nine inch nails, Mushroom head,The black keyes,Tracy Chapman,Eric Carmen & the raspberries,Frankie Yankovi,Chrissie Hynde,Bull Moose Jackson..sooooo many national & international groups..........itz not by accident that the rock & roll hall of fame is there
Thank you for the documentary...I met Joe at Cleveland Stadium for an autograph...he signed me one and was a very nice guy about it.
Being that he’s my grandpa,I love hearing these stories.
It’s clear that a 24 minute video was produced as an excuse to play and share that song. I respect that. Well done.
It’s actually not even funny how accurate this statement is.
Great documentary. I remember Joe as a 17 year collecting baseball cards n going to games n Joe was the talk of the town.
At one point years ago the Dead Boys were my favorite band, always loved the VU. Thanks for that unexpected treat of a video. Go Joe
A very well produced and interesting mini-doc @Baseball Historian. Thank you for bringing Super Joe's comet of a career into close view.
I know of him because It was my 1st full year of collecting sports cards, and being the 1980 rookie of the year, his card was one to have in 1981. Back in those days, his card value went from 10 cents to 2 cents in a year 😂
He batted .289, 23 HR, and 87 RBI in 131 games in his rookie season. Pretty good.
I always remember this guy because Dave Stapleton was runner-up for RoY. Stapleton had a really nice season replacing an injured Jerry Remy. Stapleton would have won the award a lot of years. Stapleton got one standard divination worse every season for the rest of his career but if he had been on the field in game six of the 86 series my teenage years would not have been ruined
I think you meant ”one standard deviation,” but I'm going to take your novel phrase, "one standard divination,” and run with it.
@@yankeegonesouth4973 haha. There was divine about Stapleton's career after his rookie year
Idea for next video: I think a video on the 3 Atlanta Aces would be great
^^^^
Always been my favorite pitching staff. I'm assuming you mean Maddox, Gavin and Smoltz.
Wow. I was just a kid and living in Cleveland. I remembered loving Super Joe and Mark the Bird Fidrich.
This was just a flat out great baseball video. Well done.
Punk rock and baseball my two favorite things in life. Great video.
Hell yeah!
I remember Joe. Even though I'm officially a Met fan, I can appreciate the talent of other players.
No the missing Hall guy is Cesar Cedeno.
I’m not even 4 minutes in and you already got my sub. This channel is quality, I can just tell!
Great story but the reason that Ruth and Gherig never did it was because they were lefthanded and majority of Mantles ABs were also lefthanded
Mantle did it several times batting RH. Casey Stengel talked about it.
The older Yankees couldn’t hit that spot because it was in left field and they batted left.
I saw Harmon Killebrew hit a home run there in 1970. Joe DiMaggio also hit a home run there according to old timers. This unobjective, unimportant, non neutral video is written by homers, aka Cleveland Indians fans.
Like Joe DiMaggio?
Loved going downtown, a ten-minute bus ride, to see The Tribe in '80, paying a buck to go into the bleachers and, with Municipal Stadium being so empty, by the 4th inning me and my buddies would be sitting behind The Tribe's dugout. Loved the sound of his bat when Joe would hit ropes into the left field stands. Always will remember that sound.
I remember Charboneau quite well. No one ever thought he would be the "next" Reggie Jackson. Absurd.
12:32 "Teen-Age Coke Dance"... sounds like Cleveland to me ;)
Also Pere Ubu frickin rocks
AYYYYE MY GUY
On June 9th 1980 Charboneau hit a 3 run homer against the Yankees during a day game and at night sat in as a guest drummer for The Pagans. He then won MLB ROOKIE OF THE YEAR and a Grammy. Only Roger Maris was able to accomplish something similar when he hit 61 homers in 1961 and sing backup on "Runaway" by Del Shannon.
Charbs was the hitting coach on a team I played for and he was every bit the character the stories make him out to be. But he was also fiercely loyal, the type of guy who always has your back, a hard worker willing to help the hitters whenever or wherever they needed, and someone who clearly cared about his players and the job he was there to do.
That’s so awesome.
Those are great stories!
What team?
Great video! Never heard of this player until now, and I always like learning about new players!
Saw Joe’s MLB debut in person at Angel Stadium in the 1980 season opener. Even saw him homer in the game.
** Cleveland didn't go bankrupt, it went into default.
The reason is that powerful financial institutions in Cleveland, who held the City's loans, tried to blackmail the City into selling its public energy utility.
Cleveland Mayor Dennis Kucinich said, we're not selling.
This is the only time in American history that a city government so pissed off its loan holders that the loans were called in, causing a default.
Kucinich has since been vindicated as Cleveland residents have saved millions on their energy bills.
Thanks for the correction. I’m definitely not an expert in local government so when I saw that the city defaulted on it’s loans, I assumed that could be categorized under bankruptcy. Thank you for the clarification.
This man is correct...Cleveland needed its heroes back then and Kucinich was the youngest mayor elected to a major US city and was considered a hero for the working man back then, Super Joe was a big deal that year, he was in left field the night Large Len Barker pitched his perfect game.
The closest thing to the next Reggie Jackson that I ever saw was Josh Hamilton, who unfortunately battled drug and alcohol abuse for many years. I saw Joe Charbonneau play when he first came up. Good player but I didn't think he was in the elite class of players......the only thing I remember about him was that he could drink beer from his nose.
I watched Hamilton as a rookie with the Reds and it was obvious in a second that he had rare gifts . Anyone with baseball sense could see it. That guy was a once in a lifetime talent
Josh Hamilton had one of the strangest careers in baseball history.
Little known fact, Joe Charboneau had a teammate friend named Kevin rhomberg, who was from Dubuque Iowa which is where I am also from. Kevin rhomberg was another example of a great hitter. Cleveland I think mishandled his career also. There's always too much pressure to give players of lesser ability south-of-the-border the first shots
Okay, now I need a Joe Charb rookie card
Same
Yes 1981 Topps #13
Get the 1981 kelloggs 3D card
just found this in my suggested. nicely done. subbed.
Super huge fan of your content. Very entertaining and well put together
Well, I never expected to hear Rocket From The Tombs referenced in a BH video. Love it!
Awesome video, and you taught me something, I never heard of this guy before.
A one-hit wonder, but MAN, what a hit that was!
He compiled more than just one base hit though 😂
There was a movie called ship of fools that had a scene where a ballplayer relates how after an amazing rookie season it got out he couldn't hit a specific pitch and all he ever saw after that was that pitch. I always thought that was the deal here
Sounds like Bill Grabarkewitz
I read the title and said. I bet it's Joe Charbano
"Angels Ace Dave Frost"....lmao
I can’t remember the year, around 1989 or close to that, I was visiting in Hawaii. Inadvertently went to a minor league game, forget the name of the team, you guys can look it up. Sure enough, Joe came to bat and clubbed a homerun
I remember him on the cover of "Baseball Digest". He was one of the few bright spots on those horrible early 1980s Indian teams with Andre Thornton.
I lived for that baseball digest . I was a kid then and thought I was gonna be on the cover one day. Didnt quite make it!
I think Rick Manning was on a cover back then.
I remember Len Barker's perfect game, but he kinda flamed out too. As a Tigers fan Indians always seemed to never be able to fully put it together in the 80's.
@@mattpeckham667 that high leg kick!
Punk rock and baseball, great stuff!
Literally my 2 motivators
@@nomorefielders agreed
Frank Howard did indeed hit a tremendous homerun off Whitey Ford in Game 4 of the '63 Series. It happened, however, not at Yankee Stadium, but at Dodger Stadium. The first two games of that series were played in New York, while the final two were held in Los Angeles.
Mickey Mantle hit the Left Field upper deck several times. Casey Stengel spoke of this as well as others. Check your Baseball History.
I believe that was in batting practice
@@pinrod1 No it was in a game. Witnesses said in BP Mickey hit 2 balls out of Yankee Stadium in RF and 1 out over the LF bleachers.
Everyone who collected baseball cards seriously from that era remembers him.
I remember seeing Joe's HR at Yankee Stadium on live TV. I get to know his cousins later in life. He was a quite the sensation for a bit.
Yeah, even near the end of his one good season, he was already losing it.
But it was a great story for 2/3rds of the season, and he evidently was a great guy.
Wow! That's a name from my younger days. Thanks for memories. I spent a few months in Cleveland in the early '70s. The city with the river that caught fire. lol Ah, Cleveland. I don't miss that city at all.
Well done.
Thank you for amazing stories like this!
I played against Joe C in Buffalo when he was playing with the Del Sassers. Nice guy, shook my hand after the game.
I remember him on the cover of SI as a kid and being baffled by his failure
rock n roll brother
Spent the summers as a kid in Canton Ohio, remember the season, song and player well. Always wondered what happened to him as a player. Cool video, thanks
I believe a back injury shortened his career. I met him last year at the gym I work out at. Super nice guy.
I seem to remember seeing Joe Charboneau's name listed in the credits of the movie "The Natural".
Watched the game on TV where Joe hit the ball into the upper deck in left field at Yankee Stadium. Guys would hit the ball into the upper deck in right field all the time but you never saw it in left. It was truly monumental.
I was a 15 year old Yankees fan but couldn't help but to become of fan of the quirky young Cleveland outfielder.
Lou Reed and the Funky Bunch? hahahahahahaha
I wasn't alive to see this kid.. but man do I remember him from reading countless books. What coulda been!
I love a good baseball/punk rock mashup.
Yeah you don’t see too many of those these days
I was a Royals fan in 1980. Super Joe was the talk of the Royals nation in August, 1980. I remember Super Joe.
I’m pretty sure Royals nation was talking about Brett on the cusp of hitting nearly .400 that season 🤷🏼♂️
I remember him very well, I was a kid and I been a Yankees fan since 1976 I definitely remember "Joltin" Joe Charboneu hit BOMBS!! He just faded away, I always remembered him though.Him and Mark the "Bird" Fidrych Were Super stars that popped up and faded away.
10:53 - his parents didn't warn him that "all porto ricans carry knives" LOL
What a great video, man! I loved that intro.
That Cleveland "song" is aces.
and you might even see this guy...yeaaaaaah!!!
Lol
I just remember stories of him opening beer bottles, the old school ones
that you had to use an opener, with his eye socket.
I met Frank Howard at an A’s game in 1979 when he was a coach with the Milwaukee Brewers. A giant of a man,my hand disappeared in his when he shook it. As an eight-year-old kid I was in awe of his size. But,he couldn’t have been nicer!
Remember his Nestle's Quik commercial? It's on YT...
Fascinating story. It is crazy he flamed out so quickly.
Dave Kingman was another phenom. And a guy named Jim Fuller who had a cup of coffee in the majors may have hit the longest home runs ever.
Remember that one game where Kingman and Schmidt hit like 8 homers each?
This is enjoyable so far but one of my relatives -- Leo Mintz -- dubbed "Rock 'n' Roll" ... Leo opened Record Rendezvous.
I remember buying that edition of Baseball Digest that year. I couldn’t wait until Joe fully got to playing with the Indians