Can you spot a psychopath by looking at their eyes?
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2019
- This video answers the question: Is it possible to identify a psychopath by looking at their eyes? Specifically, this question is referring to the idea of measuring pupil dilation (pupillometry) in psychopaths and non-psychopaths and seeing if there’s a difference.
Psychopathy:
There are two types of psychopathy: Factor 1 (primary, interpersonal affective) and Factor 2 (lifestyle, antisocial) psychopathy. Factor 1 psychopathy has characteristics like grandiosity, pathological lying, manipulation, a superficial charm, callous, unemotional, low neuroticism and lack of guilt or remorse. Factor 2 psychopathy has a parasitic lifestyle, being prone to boredom, sensation seeking, impulsivity, irresponsibility, a failure to have long term goals, poor behavioral controls, and criminal versatility.
Burley, D. T., Gray, N. S., & Snowden, R. J. (2019). Emotional modulation of the pupil response in psychopathy. Personality Disorders: Theory, Research, and Treatment, 10(4), 365-375.
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Burley, D. T., Gray, N. S., & Snowden, R. J. (2017). As far as the eye can see: Relationship between psychopathic traits and pupil response to affective stimuli. PLoS ONE, 12, e0167436.
Vinnars, B., & Barber, J. P. (2008). Supportive-expressive psychotherapy for comorbid personality disorders: A case study. Journal of Clinical Psychology, 64(2), 195-206.
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In my experience, the most dangerous people have learned to perfect the art of faking sincerity.
Yeah. Psychopath or not.
Are the weakest those who don't? I'm kidding, I agree. Very well put. People don't understand values anymore.
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Not entirely. I believe the most dangerous people are the ones who don't even care to fake sincerity. They just enjoy the complete effect of their essence on everyone else.
Indeed, look at Trump, thespian extraordinaire.
My husband and I were watching this video by chance when he said ‘I think he’s talking about a study we conducted recently’. Looking at the credits, sure enough you referenced his work. Thank you - well reported and accurately assessed.
How exciting for the Jones’s and thanks, for the teaching.
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A lot of employees at the DMV have that stare if you don't have the proper documents with you.
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Been in jail a few times when I was younger with a drinking problem. You know who to talk to and who to leave alone just by their eyes. Just comes instinctively
True
I went for suspended license. They put me in a cell with the states most wanted and a guy that stabbed his girlfriend.
Turns out one was a friend from a decade earlier, and the other rented from a friend of mine for over a decade.
I was pretty safe.
@@jefferyharper5720 don't know a out that Jeffery, where I'm from, anyone who stabs a women isn't looked upon too kindly. I've done time in one of worst jails in scotland
@@jasonlevy1221 perhaps, but this was county. No trials yet. That would come once sentenced and in a state or federal pen. Not my choice who they put me in a cell with. He rented from a friend of mine.
@@jefferyharper5720 relax bro, didn't mean anythi g by it, just wondering what a guy like that and states most wanted doing in a county jail, isn't that for minor offences? like driving offences, shoplifting etc
What is that blank stare that you see from a crazy person. Like a hollowness before an act of anger or violence. Like no one's home stare. I have seen this in someone. It's very disturbing.
It’s real, I know exactly what you’re talking about. Just because there aren’t a lot of research-backed studies on it, that doesn’t totally invalidate your experience.
kim Brody I have a young family member that has the blank stare, ie, when he’s looking at his fiancé for long periods at a time. He is also on meds that affect pupillary dilation like atropine and Belladonna made Italian women that much more beautiful with full big pupils. Narcotics can construct to pinpoint pupils. My family member was just diagnosed as a Sociopath, so stare on!
I’ve seen it multiple times in my life. Had the hair stand up behind my neck. Sheer fear instilled in me. I use to be a realtor. One occasion happened doing a open house. He asked me where the bedrooms were. Another time was another in home sales position. The guy tried blocking the front door with a chair and blasted the TV and Radio. When I came out of the bathroom I saw what he did. I promised to date him. Gave him a BS line. He let me go. I’m no longer in sales and will never do it. Predators with shark eyes. Yes. It’s real. Once you’ve seen it and you know your in danger. You will never forget.
I’ve seen that “if looks could kill” look from a guy I was passing in an elevator. I wouldn’t call it blank but it was as if his eye’s were “dead”, like such deep concentrated hatred and anger and something even more evil and indescribable (as if he had lost all sense of hope and he didn’t give a crap) that it was if his eyes were deep holes of blackness. It was so unnerving as I’d never seen that before or since in my life and it made the hairs stand up on my body. I also met a psychopath that had a very strange nervous energy and sweat. It had a horrible pheromone scent almost reminded me of male cat spray. And it would waft on and off. It was the strangest thing. It’s not just their stare it can also be there over excited, nervous predatory scent. This is when they are actively casing you but haven’t attacked yet. This has been my anecdotal experience.
It depends on the type of blank stare it is. There are several medicsl reasons for those blank stares and a couple of spiritual ones as well. Not all stares are created equal. The shark eyed empty yet intense look is one like Charles Manson used to get on his face. His was quite type 2 chaotic psychopathic criminal stare. Jeffery Dahmer, also a murderer, had a different stare, one less intense but one like an artist might have in deep contemplation of how they will dismember your body. I suspect they are having quite a mental conversation with self at that point. If its you they are looking at, I suggest you run! With both of those stares its as if something not human is looking through their eyes. I have seen both, and variation of them with the "dupers delight" grin. They might look absent but they are deep in thought about what they should do next. You are lucky enough to happen to be there and survive, you too could have been in his plan for fun that day.
Then there are the dissociative "fuge" stares, and neuro disorders stares too, where the lights are on but no one is home for a few minutes. These types of stares are random, and generally brief. They can be caused by neuro disorders, PTSD, Hypnosis, Medications, and Severe Mental/Physical Trauma like in DID.
Honestly I think people can recognize psychopaths by facial expressions. It's not as simple as pupil dilation, and it's difficult to measure. But if you make eye contact with one, it can set off an uncanny valley response.
My mother's eyes terrified me. I found it difficult to not fall in with people like her unable to recognize dangers another person would. I had no lack of fear until she died in her late 70's. Then peace finally came.
I can read people's force field.
If someone gives me the evil eye, even if I do not actually see it, I can feel it, I usually confront them and let them know that I am well aware of what they are doing.
I can feel them trying to steal my Force....I know it sounds weird but I died when I was young fell thru ice and drowned, and I've always been a a little weird.
@JFLG 764 what? Get out of here bro
Sublimation of projected emotions. It's all over the face, and your intuition picks up on it.
@@AlastorTheNPDemon Eateot, nice
"It's all in the eyes, chico."
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I once worked with a psychopath/serial predator. Everyone loved working with him, except for one female. My friend absolutely hated him and she could not explain why. When the case unfolded I made the connection his victims resembled her. I believe it was his "predator gaze" that made her dislike him. I am the complete opposite of her. He went under my radar because he did not look at me with predator eyes.
I am one of the authors of the research that Dr Grande is talking about. I just found this video - thank you for the interest in our research!
were u with sophie jones?
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My mother sister and I all have larger pupils. None of us are mentally ill, psychopaths, or substance abusers. I'm told often how beautiful my eyes are. I don't think people even notice that my pupils are a little larger than most. They can still see that my eyes are blue. So I don't feel it's fair to imply that all people who have large pupils are defective in some way. lol
Me too. Thank you for the interest in my research.
@@dissidentfairy4264 I wanna see those eyes now
My grandfather has those eyes, he is very smart, he doesn't care about anyone only himself, I remember when I was little and he saw me like that I knew something was wrong and he was about to say something to humiliate me, he would have this eyes, they would look brighter sharper clearer that made me feel insecure and afraid. I can recognize that stare now easily in others.
Is your grandpa named Rick?
Wow
THE HAWK and the turtle
@rusi vogog huh!?
Why do women hate their parents and grandparents so much?
My experience is they may not have comforting eye contact- but, rather a cold look combined with a smirk or laugh. I found this very creepy in a sibling.
Yes...smirk on their face as is they know they are lying
Narcissists do the same thing so it's not easy to tell
@@Puniciacause theres quite high comorbidity between all cluster b disorders and traits.
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I've checked them out... I was hoping for a funny one 😂
Not nasty.. rather funny!
Now that's got me thinking..... cogs turn.... lol
His face... with his side smirk 😊
@The Rockall Times hilarious! 🤔 Don't think too hard now. 😉
They really like to do the side-stare where they don’t really turn their head to look at you all the way
If you've ever had the misfortune of being with a narc, go back & look at the photos you took of them. Look at their eyes..Lights are on but nobody's home in there.
It happened to me once. That is, I recognized a psychopath the minute our eyes locked. It very quickly turned into a scary and dangerous situation that I only got out of by the mercy of a third party, a complete stranger, who stepped in to save me.
Any details?
@@kkech1 Ill save you the trouble.
"He was cold, emotionless, he looked at me the same way a predator looks at a prey. It was very uneasy, it's just something you feel."
Eyes numb and void of emotion, you see he has no need for anyone in his life but you also see he has an interest towards you because hes looking at you.
@@smackdashitoutchu7755 LOL at people here talking about Psychos as if they're some other-worldly beings, or have special powers.
I never have problems with them. I can spot them literally a mile away, and I subtley let them know that im on to them and to not try any funny business
How do u think u are able to spot them? Is it something they do or say or is it just a six sense or intuition
Why would u let them know that u see them why not just act like u don't see them instead of letting them be aware. What do u gain by achkwoleging their presence?
Pupil Theory Tester: "Oh, do not mind me- I stare into eyes so as to watch the pupils change..."
Psycho: "...who's psycho now?"
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My birth dad has schizophrenia. I've seen pictures of him "before" and "after". It's haunting, his eyes were bright and then only a couple years later, he looks hollow, not with it. The eyes are truly the window to the soul.
Same thing happened to my uncle. Mental illness is no joke and these people need help
I have also heard psychologists say that wrinkles around the eyes will not be as pronounced in the aging process due to decreased stress response. It's an interesting proposition.
After all, the eyes are the window to the soul.
Yeah, except the window opens out to a brick wall.
And the window us Psychopaths occasionally throw people out of. 😆
That’s completely not connected.
@@paganwolf5951 Edge?
Indeed
I have a coworker who has crazy eyes. She is a known bully in the company and has the worst personality. Addicted to negativity and problems.
Doesn't mean they're a psychopath. Could just mean she's a negative Nancy. Psychos are unlikely to pick on people unless they have a goal in mind while doing that
I watched movie about one study about violent children with conduct disorder. All of them had history of abusing animals and showed criminal tendencies plus little or no empathy. Their brain scans detected that their amygdala doesn’t function properly and they suffer from low ability to concentrate. Ironically that manifest itself in hyper activity. Basically they need more stimuli to get excited.
The scientists found strong correlation between attention deficit in early childhood and the criminal behaviour in the adulthood in those individuals.
And here’s the bomb. There are some studies that suggest it’s reversible. That attention deficit is the result of brain damage and the brain can be trained to prevent future criminal “career” as an psychopath.
I guess from that comes and the psychopathic cold stare. They just can’t process the situations very well and their “reptile” part of the brain takes the lead. It’s all about survival but not about social norms and emotion.
Thank you doctor Grande, you were wonderful again.
So do you think ADHD kids are just psychopaths in early stages? I mean without drug treatment will they grow up to be a psychopathic family annihilator?
@@shadywillow3308 even strong correlation doesn't prove causation.. quite interesting though.
This. This makes so much sense
Sounds like my neighbors kids they're very violent towards animals and people they have zero empathy .
Shady Willow I don’t know. It’s hard to predict the future but certainly they are predisposed. There were other symptoms in their behaviour that manifested themselves as an early signs as lying, stealing (without the need to do it), violence against other children, siblings etc. Basically breaking all the social norms at very early age without no regret. Are they going to become psychopathic?! I don’t know but one thing for sure all scientists agree is that they will become adults with violent tendencies. Also they are still arguing is it the result of brain trauma during the delivery or there is genetic component. I believe the truth is somewhere in between.
I believe it’s reversible if cough in time while the brain is still developing. All the brain scans showed that the neurones don’t communicate well and that’s the reasons for the ADHD.
If we can prevent future violent or criminal behaviour of these children, then why not worth trying?! I believe the prevention is the best choice but these methods are still controversial and they will need time to be proven.
In the future it might turn out that the psychopathy is neurological problem. Not just personality that can’t be changed. But here comes the heavy question for the parents. Are they ready to put the stigma on their children for being problematic in order to help them to develop as regular respectful members of the society?! That’s a really harsh decision and needs big amount of self denial and sacrifice.
When their eyes turn black ...walk away , no matter what , leave the room get out of there. Last thing you want is to gwt into an argument , its like fighting with the exorsist
The exorcist gets rid of demons.
@@JJ-iq8mi well maybe it was his profession since he’s like them in the first place
Thats racist
i have naturally black eyes cuz im asian
Learn to spell and punctuate, girl!
Not just pupil dilation, but the "wild eyed" look where the entire iris is visible. Not counting people with Graves' disease of course. I'd think it would indicate a very level of high anxiety or stress in normal people, but others that seem to look that way all the time, especially when conversing with others.
Sorry... crazy eyes are just that woman you brought home from the bar at 1am. Not a psychpath. Just a poor decision.
Yes! People with the "wild eyed" look are not to be trusted! They are liars, thrive on drama, and have a tendency of narcissism and psychopathy.
Another interesting thing crossed my mind. When we see someone we love our pupils dilate.
Normal human response
High levels of Dopamine and Serotonin
An individual with adhd or depression will typically have low levels of dopamine and serotonin. Disorders are collections of symptoms, some may be comorbid, some may be related to hormones or neurotransmitters (disordered function or damage). I wonder if one day, we might have a better grasp on the brain without labels for overlapping problems. Just some of my musings.
Exactly only proves dialation has nothing to do with only threat. It's muscle memory in a way. Your body is prepping potential energy. The pupils dialate from smiling faces just who the fuck doesn't love being happy?
@@drummerkrisp who doesn't love being happy? why the ever-growing horde of so-called "narcissists" of the zombie apocalypse
Serotonin actually decreases when we're in love. That's what leads to the intense infatuation.
@@bluelover929 i have severe deprasion and adhd, for some reason my eyes are always dialated, so much so that i always get tested when im pulled over bc they think im high
I’ve seen men who get attracted to me and they give me this “look”.... and we both understand the “look” and if I’m attracted I like the “look”. But then there are other men who give me this “look” and it’s not a normal look of attraction, it’s more like two big black circles of death like ⚫️⚫️ Almost as if their whole eyes turn black and I suddenly feel very on guard and ready to run at any point
What a sexual story.
i know exactly what you're talking about
Always follow your gut feeling!👌
It's how a predator looks at prey. Predatory animals watch their prey with this look. It communicates no emotion and makes objects of both parties to each other. I am not unfamiliar with being the focal point of this look.
Just sounds like indifference to me.
You give it all away at the first sentance with your stifled little laugh.
You can see it in his eyes.
@No One no storm as of yet boss..........
Or maybe he's a serious scientist.
When you see people smile you see their lies
Exactly !
Its NOT just pupil size. Jessica Chastain's character Lucille Sharpe in Crimson peak captures psychopath eyes perfectly. They also have 'busy eyes'. A Holistic Dr. I worked with 40 yrs ago taught me to spot problematic patients.
What do you mean busy eyes
I think you mean "piercing eyes" ??
I know exactly what you mean!! Seen a video where a psychopath was in a group and people had to guess who it is. The guy was going from super nice and charming to checking everyone’s mimics and gestures to 'prepare' the next lie. My ex had those eyes too, he looked like he was searching for something all the time. And the eyes were so cold… so lonely.
So yea, busy eyes means they are scanning their surroundings to adapt like a chameleon.
With this new found knowledge I will never look at people the same. Great video doc!
I've been curious for a while about people who are sexually attracted to psychopaths/sociopaths. I can easily imagine, for example, the so-called "psychopathic stare" being misread as an erotically charged stare.
No my opinion is that people specially females, are attracted to psychos or "bad boys" because the idea that a horrible person only likes you and only treats you well out of all the other people, is kinda hot.
@@nnn.nnn2 - Not "especially females" since men tend to be attracted to "bad girls." It just hasn't become a trope like it has for women. Of course it is an undesirable trope. Men actively chase "bad girls" and then call them "crazy." A caveat: they only chase the pretty ones. A woman can be rotten to the core and men will still chase her if she is good looking.
@@nnn.nnn2 thats a poor analysis… although what is often called the female gaze usually has a component of finding people attractive for a certain aesthetic fulfillment they might provide through certain characteristics (like being reckless or a “bad boy”)
Those individuals just wants to be abused or killed.
@@kdphotos4691 why are you creating a problem where there wasn’t one?
I’ve learned so much from this guy and the way he explains topics in such a way people can grasp it with ease.
I realize you mention 'medications' as a factor but having a full history of substance use/abuse is very important including last episode of use. Thank you for the admonishment that we cannot 'spot' psychopaths by observing pupil dilation alone. Sadly, I can think of 2 clinicians that would be 'bragging' about this 'new' skill they have of 'spotting; psychopaths during an intake. I always appreciate your posts!
I love it when you crack yourself up or tell us snippets of your life :)
Ok I take it back. Because God2 said to.
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“Look into my eyes and tell me...what it is you see...”
Hus consistency shows he cares, genuinely paying attention and answering questions with caution....it's real.
I thought this would be about the "I want to watch you bleed to death in a bathtub" look. Friends described a coworker this way and, without knowing who it was, I immediately recognized who they were talking about when I saw him. My limbic system AND amygdala told me to stay the hell away from him.
I don't understand what you mean how can you tell?
@@rainmanj9978 it's like that feeling from Training Day with them Gang Members playing Cards and you feel like that Police Officer there and you notice that Alonzo car is gone if you ever chilled with a Psychopath you know the vibes are gonna be off you gonna see red flags how do I know this cause this person buying me beer when I was 17 he was in prison for assault and I blocked him on Facebook immediately when I got home i looked at my brother like that was horrible experience we did thought that our life was in danger I think he was trying to Drug us and Lord knows what he was on we smoked weed with him but he was a Pill head people on drugs are unpredictable
Another factor is brain trauma - my pupils were permanently dilated for several years after such an event, and received a lot of positive interest!
What do you mean you received a lot of positive interest?
Brain trauma is often a factor in psychopaths, so. . .
Nice coat😆
I have brain trauma; can be very easy for me to lose control of my emotions but I have a conscience. I wrestle strongly with this daily.
Im in a constant state of dissociation from so many traumas and living in an environment where healing isn't possible. All alone.
It's essentially a prison that I want to break free from without any clear idea what step 1 is.
If you're a Godly person, pray for me.
Really interesting subject, learning something new everyday from you. Keep up the great work
Yes.... When I open the mailbox everyday and read all the friggin bills...I can literally feel my pupils dilate so large... That all the words numbers and dollar signs get sucked into my brain by the black hole my pupils make.... Very unpleasant stimuli!!!
Fascinating!!! One of my fav videos!! Thank you
I’m really learning a lot with your videos. You have a very clear and logical way of explaining things. Thank you!
Ana Fernandez,hope you are not with a narcissist!
I feel like some people (not everyone) can tell a psychopath by their eyes, but not necessarily due to pupil dilation. There’s something else I’ve seen, that’s difficult to describe.
@@newadam573 more of a void; a deadness, darkness. Idk. It gives me the creeps.
Its swagger baby .... or lack of in the lame types... and micro expressions u subconsciously pick up. I study a bit into it. Got to protect and perfect the craft u know. ; )
If you stare into the abyss long enough the abyss stares back at you
@@Puniciastop muddying the waters to make them look deep
Love how you are based always in research. Enjoying your evaluations so much!
Great video Dr. Grande! You have the best videos 💜💜
Regardless of pupil size, they will often give an object (person) of their interest the “predatory stare”. Often, directly into your eyes if they have a sexual or romantic interest in you.
I want to personally thank you Doc, these videos helped me greatly
Great video, really interesting! Thanks for making it!
So I just binged watched this channel and I am hooked.
What Dr. Grande said about how psychopaths typically are on the defensive when they see happy faces? I have a theory on that, formed from when I was living in a sober living house, (I have an apartment now), I did observe hostility on one man's part whenever I started getting my confidence back. Being an obsessive thinker, having puzzled over the reason why, I came up with my own theory, that maybe if his parents were sadistic, he noticed them seeming happy just before they got abusive, because sadists would be anticipating the cruelty they were planning to do (i.e. Sadists get enjoyment from cruelty) and the child would learn to associate happy expressions with hostility.?
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That's interesting and I can believe that true for my own experiences
i was watching a documentary about Crack Cocaine in America and one thing I noticed strikes me like this former drug dealer said if someone was to tell a funny joke you would have to be like Smerk or be like Huh why because it would be a sign of weakness like you couldn't dance in the club cause the Drug Dealers would see you having a good time you gotta be shown to be Emotionless
My friend has sexual sadism he's very very very very cruel but he said psychopathy is about evilness not cruelty, liking being a rich liar not a bad person
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Absolutely fascinating Dr Grande!! I look forward to hearing more on this topic as studies progress. Thank you for fueling our minds! 😊
Thank you for your brief non-pressuring intro to subscribe. It helped me decide to subscribe.
Thanks, Dr. Grande, for posting yet another great video! I think that in practical interpersonal situations, especially under stress, we would not notice pupil variations in anyone. Perhaps in a lab setting one could detect such variations, but then there are probably better ways of identifying psychopaths in a lab.
Everyone always thinking their spouse is a psychopath smh
Lol true. Most of the time they are just jerks.
That's because psychopaths are often more sexually successful.
opethfeldt unless a psychopath is a 1/10 on looks
My partner is a high functioning psychopath, at first when he told me about it, I felt sickened. Now it doesn't bother me I learned to live and except who he is.
@Sherlyn and if you've ever felt a strong emotion, or got sad because someone else is? you're an "empath"
please find empath in the DSM-5 for me, anyone, anyone?
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you for posting this information, I had never considered pupil dilation but it makes perfect sense.
I know this comment is from a month ago but I just wanted to say I absolutely love the cute little profile picture that you have currently. It's not related to what you've said or to the topic of the video though so my apologies lol. Have a lovely day if possible. X 💜 ٩(｡◕‿◕｡)۶
@@joshualeahy2162 well this is a year late but thank you! haha
It's so true Dr. Grande. Thank you for educating the public.
Great video but I think I need to watch it a few more times. You fairly know your stuff Dr Grande! ☺
My ex had the most intense stare I’ve seen only on serial killers mugshots. I just thought that he’s a weirdo but surprise, he got diagnosed with aspd two years into relationship and a lot of things made sense
Yeah he’s a psychopath.
Are you still alive?
my friend is a murder he said he's not a psychopath nor other killers are, he has beautiful big brown eyes other people say that too, you should believe me and in him
My dad is a psycopath. I could be wrong. Some times he had a look in his eyes like a shark. No dept.when that look would come about . something bad came about.
Stay safe. They can be dangerous.
They look into your eyes but see no one in front of them as if they focus on your existance, but do not look through your entire being, not that yes you know what they are seeing, hold on direct gaze face to face? Not quite 'dead behind the eyes' for them, but as if they look directly at you as much like both alive, but as if you are dead to them instead? It's looking at evil, I have two psych(one not certain but too 100% narcissist to just creep into barely psychopathy. But this is the one I'm more likely to win - physically wise I'm clear, although the other could easily physical overpower strength being male, my brother and he is over six foot, prime peak of male in age, I'm a lot younger yet he not be scary. There's my near tiny extreme opposite in five foot (I'm mid two but am weight wise on muscular here certainty here physically not what this look makes me know she could somehow 'get me' at ANY moment, this creepy sense I do believe when you know around the actual living in the knowledge with a true psychopath, you develop the 'sense' which backed up in science enough to say exactly likely to the truth be repeated in the people whom gave true fla response, they have represented equally in population to have a psychopath around them, in knowing them like that of a family living home, even when nothing to ever be claimed to know they may as most likely also is myth in them being all serial sadist blah, no, they are least represented in the numbers of jail members to be knowing they don't all kill, or do and simply not caught lol however it is a stare which it's not fear response or chills, it's knowing both them fully to know fear in fully life or death too, unrelated, it's just a knowing they are not seeing what you see, you know they see nothing of real people like remorse if they kill you you look that would still be exactly that same state as they give me this. She's also failed to try and fail twice already so jokes on her failure there though. But true and as obvious no way proving my word true, it is, but this is what I look at and know I'm looking at something, and it be when up close and finally she looks right at me, from say across a room, fleeting acknowledgement she look normal, then there's these specific repeated and not ever as induced by naturally be positioned somehow to then have only times, but you know this, it's not a reaction, or feeling as just like a knowing of something in this look. And abusive people, met many, not one be clinically psychopathic however... Wired. I think it has weight to be reported as likely must have some knowledge by living with, even as possibly not even "know" them for whom they are, it is as instinctual but need nurture, due to nothing of only populations correlate, however nothing causal, but repeated correctly in strangers for correct, missed first correct test, missed and more at chance only if identify at random. As perfectly the chance of this not be explained nor seen more into this first be a study read about in the actual ability to cite this, but nothing since, meh life is so crazy huh
@@cherylbaker3319 would like to know more
Quit blaming your parents for what is entirely your own fault, coward. Treat your parents with respect and quit labeling them psychopaths, you spoiled brat.
@@SkillUpMobileGaming Prove to all of us that it's the original poster's fault, oh knowledgable one.
Unless you personally know the original poster, his father, and what his life was like behind closed doors, you have no clue, period. You can't prove it's his fault, that's he's a spoiled brat or disrespects his parents simply because you were not there and don't know him.
All you are doing is making ignorant assumptions based on no information.
Met 2 so far, both I caught off guard giving me a look. Exact same , face downwards eyes staring at me looking angry and it really throws you off. Carried on as if nothing had happened but it sticks in my mind. A sociopath I met tries to please everyone, obsessed with attention and will move around the room going to different people all with the same flirtatious act.
I've always noticed it in the laughs. An unexpressive laugh, thats loud and fully pronounces every "HA HA HA HA HA". The eyes I personally can't say I've noticed much, because I've met evil people with big pupils, evil people with small pupils, so I think theres a lot more to factor in with someones pupil size, though there's things someone could definitively point out in a psychopath I suppose. My only other clue I normally get, is how they walk, how they talk and how they behave. Often psychopaths I do know, have a strange gate to their walk, and they say really silly things to keep themselves entertained, like "Foreskin???".
@jimmy hehehe-ha!
Dr. Grande, you are mentioning around min. 9:40 that there is an association between pupil dilation and psychosis. Could you do a video on this, as well? This would be so kind of you. ❤
When I was struggling with my abusive, narcissistic husband, I wondered if my husband was a psychopath. He abused me for years and wanted me dead. I saw on UA-cam a psychiatrist say to look at a sociopath’s driver’s license and see if that person had bright blue shark eyes. He Did and I gasped. He had bright blue shark eyes and a straight smile. Years later, I’m divorced and my ex as caused me so much pain and Distress. I suffer from PTSD from Narcissistic abuse. He is a narcissistic personality disordered man and used me in a 20 year marriage
The narcissist will murder your soul by cheating on you, lying and betraying you
I am done
One of the worst experiences in this lifetime . You can heal, it takes time and lots of self love 💕
Watch peace and harmony channel she helped me to understand &overcome this tragic event in my life . Her knowledge may be some help to you as well .
The dark eyes of a narc. Once seen, never forgotten. Chilling.
Lmao wtf is this
Bruh 😮
I was thinking about that song " Doctor my eyes " by Jackson Brown (1972) during this video.....lol 😁
Interesting topic Dr. Grande. Thanks 😃🇳🇱
Your body of work is interesting, exciting, and appreciated! I'm learning a lot from your work during the 2020 shutdown. Very interesting about the happy face theory. I would think the opposite, that positive visual immages would send a message to psychopaths that they have a better chance of manipulating the happy face.
Dr. Grande, you rock! Love your uploads
Danielle M, you look stunning
@@lioydwilliams1850 *blush* thank you!
@@lioydwilliams1850 hi simp
My mother is very narcissistic, which I realized early last year. Although I’ve all but cut contact with her, due to her behavior last year, including her attempts at psychological and emotional abuse towards me, I don’t know whether she’s speedily going down the spectrum towards psychopathy. Plus, her eyes are brown so and I’m not a psychotherapist so, I couldn’t tell anything about pupil dilation when I did see her.
But, one thing I did notice, other than all of the other very pointed and conscious behavior she emitted, was when she was at the hospital. Despite the fact that she answered a few light questions correctly that I was giving her, even her birth year, which she’d lied about most of her life, I felt like I literally “smelled” that something wasn’t right and I also noticed that the corners of her mouth were turned down and wondered if it had anything to do with mental status since, that had never been a normal facial expression for her. I know that downturned mouth corners are often associated with drug use but, for where she lives, it’s highly doubtful that’s at issue. I do know that she’d suffered depression and would never consider any help, but to destroy loved ones, with our cooperation. I do feel as if part of her narcissistic behavior emanated from depression and the history behind it though.
Where I am concerned, since I am her daughter and have now learned about narcissism, I monitor myself. I monitor any trend towards lack of empathy and other co-morbid issues. As I get older, I do feel less empathy, but I think it may be more of just the hardening of ones self, as you age. When I feel less empathetic, it’s also when I’ve been sleep deprived - which is quite often. I feel that my empathy is someone’s artificial and manufactured. For startle response, I feel as though I may have less startle response than I used to, but it could be because I feel I become more misanthropic as I age and because I have cats. One gets used to being snagged out of nowhere, when they have cats. Still I am an INTJ that, through picking up clues, I try to keep an eyes on things. I don’t doubt that, with having dealt with the recession, all to have my mother try to turn herself out, the moment I got a foothold on a decent job, I probably also have compassion fatigue though.
Dr. Grande this is the first time I've seen you crack a smile😀💟
Astounding as usual. May I ask if you could do a video on Alex from A Clockwork Orange and perhaps your own personal insight into it? It's very much to me, a novel/movie asking the question; can you force psychopath to change? Would love to know your thoughts on popculture psychopaths in general.
CRABSTYX THIS PLEASE
I hope it's ok to give a suggestion on the technical side of your videos (which I just started watching by the way and I love them!) Would you consider using something called a De-esser tool when you're editing? What it does is takes out the harshness of "s" sounds that happens when you're talking especially into a mic. I have sensitive ears and sometimes it hurts when I hear that sharp s. I hope this doesn't come across as rude. I love your work!
I knew someone who was a really nice guy but had been addicted to drugs and in prison as a young man in his late teens. He recovered and has been fine for decades, but he would talk about this. He would always say that most of the people in prison were troubled and sad souls like him - usually addicts that did a bad thing - but that there were some they all learned to avoid. He had an expression, "the eyes have it" and that's what he meant - stay away from that person. He was always right. I learned a lot from his experience and this post adds a dimension to what I learned. So thanks for posting this.
Thank y Dr Grande, this is another amazing video of y.....please keep us informed!!! Xxxx
I heard a long time ago that variable pupil dilation was an indicator of psychopathy. (fluctuating).
The eyes are the windows to the soul! We’ve all seen the dark empty evil eyes!
Wonderful analysis, Dr grande.
Very valuable finding keep up the good work
I love your videos, Dr. Grande. Thank you so much for your expertise in educating the pubic about mental illness. God bless you and thank you.
The Broken Down Sinner,your lovely smile can make the news!
Thank you for explaining the differences in types of psychopathy and pupil dilation. I appreciate the fact that you provide information that's not just scientifically based but often new to myself and, I presume, others. It was fascinating to learn that aversive images shown to psychopaths don't increase pupil dilation and indeed may increase the startle response. It was also interesting to note that individuals high in psychopathy will tend to respond to images of 'happy faces' such as people smiling with an increase in pupil dilation. This definitely does suggests a mistrust of others who are or appear to be experiencing let alone expressing pleasurable, happy emotional states. I wonder if this may be related to the traumatic experiences during childhood of many psychopaths whereby their 'norm' came to be stern, overly authoritarian if not actually abusive figures of authority such as parents and other relatives. Most strongly psychopathic individuals share an upbringing that included neglect if not also abusive treatment by one or both parents and/or primary caregivers. As such, it makes sense that these psychopaths would expect and feel comfortable with similar stern expressions - to those on the faces of primary caregivers - and they would've had very little regular ongoing exposure in their home/family life to others who appeared happy and visibly expressed such emotional states. Their response to happy, smiling faces would then understandably be one of deep mistrust and feeling intense discomfort. Hence the pupils dilate as a stress response.
When one considers these matters along with the fact the amygdala regulates pupil dilation and so gives us information about higher levels of psychopathy, it's evident that the correlation of psychopathy and pupil dilation needs much more research, especially as there are many confounding factors - from drugs to different levels and types of psychopathy and the fact that due to there being a two-second delay with pupil dilation it's not going to be easily spotted.
Thank you once again, Dr. Grande, for an analysis of yet another fascinating area. Many people feel there's something wrong with and abnormal about the gaze and therefore the eyes of violent criminals, particularly
psychopaths, and will look at photographs and films of psychopaths and remark that the eyes reveal the psychopathy. Perhaps with proper scientific research into pupil dilation and psychopathy such a link may finally be explained and established.
@@nyyotam4057 My reply to Dr. Grande was lengthy and I didn't want to add more. The hereditary or genetic factors that contribute to psychopathy are definitely likely. The factors in childhood most share you can look up in research done by forensic psychologists and the like regarding known psychopaths such as serial killers studied by the FBI's Behavioural Science Unit. You need to understand that I didn't address the hereditary aspects not because I don't believe they exist but due to lack of time. You appear to be exalting psychopaths somewhat by the way you refer to them. They may be deemed unusual and dangerous but that doesn't make them worthy of praiseworthy language. And I'm aware of Dr. David Wood's background but we've heard self-reporting so whether he is a psychopath is perhaps doubtful although I personally think his behaviour towards his father and difficulty with empathy to this day sounds like he is. Anyway, psychopathy is likely a mix of hereditary factors and childhood experiences 'setting off' the genetic predisposition but I didn't think Dr. Grande's topic necessitated me pointing this out. If you haven't already, check out the book "The Anatomy Of Evil" by forensic psychiatrist Dr. Michael H. Stone for further interesting analysis of psychopaths and other violent criminals.
@@nyyotam4057 The book's an excellent analysis of violent criminals including psychopaths. It's also very well written. Hopefully you'll find it interesting.
Thanks you. This is a complex question to tackle and explain. I have to admit it got a bit tedious to understand but I did gain some clarity and understanding.
It's good to know that diagnosing conditions is often not that cut and dry - in the last few years a lot has been inferred about psychopathy (sociopathy, and narcissism), including quite a bit of sensationalism played out in the war of the sexes: used often against former spouses, and parents - in addition to criminals.
It's great to get grounded with proper information and pointed back in the direction of reality.
Wow, this was interesting, I hope there will be more on this topic
Looking into the eyes of a psychopath to me is like looking into a black hole, a black tunnel. There's no soul in there. Really uncanny.
They are evil. We should skin and salt them then dump the bodies in a shallow grave filled with fluoroantimonic acid. 😃😐
Yes 100% dead eyes
@@frankcastle4715 as a sociopath or someone with aspd I find this funny yet stupid at the same time.
@@frankcastle4715 you're just as bad
@@justsomemonkeymanwithlongh3188 I am brain damaged can’t feel emotions just like psychopaths and I can do the same stuff and we know right from wrong but I’m not out butchering people and doing evil.
Your videos are always interesting.
The dark nothingness behind a persons eyes is a telling sign that they could be a psychopath.
You literally just watch a video proving that wrong…
@@MadaraUchiha-jd9nx Wrong
Very interesting (again!)...pupil dilation topic reminds me of mid 70's when it was all about Who Do You Love...
That was my first thought, too. 😊
Wishful Thinking,hope you are not with a narcissist!
I get that stare when someone eats my last piece of chocolate. 👀
Keep...a never-ending supply on hand
So interesting. I really enjoy your videos.
Love your classes Doctor.
Yes. They also do that rapid eyeball scan . If youve seen it then you know what I mean.
You mean like moving the eyeball without moving the head?
@@fordgt402 yes. Their eyeballs (both) move side to side of their eye sockets while staring at you , as if analyzing you
@@godstomperAs if they have two lazy eyes like a reptile?
Well I scan people like that just so I can know if the person is dangerous or not. So. That does not necessarily mean someone is a psychopath, but it could be one of the symptoms for it though.
godstomper I notice that in some people too. A very frantic eye movement while you talk to them. I always wondered why they do that or what it was about. I never see anyone else besides very few people do that or sometimes if a person is assessing you in context during an interview.
Hello, I have a question regarding NPD. If a person exhibits all of the traits of a covert narcissist within the family but is very much a co dependent outside with strangers, what does that make them? I know these people, they are common, people pleasing grovelers trying to please every one they meet but vicious and callous behind closed doors with family. It is not as if they are lying either, ie they genuinely care about strangers and want to help them but are cruel to their children. Is it typical for narcissists to be this way or are these people not narcissists at all but co dependents? I am confused. Please address this.
Great question
They are covert narcissists. Their behaviour outside of the home is their 'good person mask' and their virtue signalling behaviour. Don't be fooled but realise they are disordered. Outside of the home also they won't have many close or good friends because they put others down etc and eventually people catch onto them. They don't truly care about anyone but themselves. Don't be too sympathetic. Protect your interests at all times. They want to be served and catered to at all times. They constantly play the victim. Try not to confront them...then you'll see their true face and they will do what they can to slander you and make your life a misery. Keep a distance while knowing what you know. Ideally if there are children they should be taught that there's a problem with their parent and not with themselves. It can be very harmful to the scapegoat child/ children. But there isn't really a way to live happily with them. It will always remain dysfunctional. Eventually most people abandon them or keep limited and low contact.
yeah no they don't genuinely care about people outside the home. They might convince themselves they are caring with their bullshit stories, but they use it all for supply and reinforcement of their "good guy" persona. It's a mask.
They’re trying to acquire narcissistic supply from those they “respect” or consider “socially-valuable.” The family always gets shit on. That’s how most narcs operate because being fake is damn TIRING,even for a narc. The mask has to come off, sometime.
The codependency fits the narc because they actually have a REALLY low self esteem the victim role (as a covert) or the grandiosity are both put as protection above the emptiness inside.
The emptiness is usually caused by a trauma of some sort.
Source: been there.
Change is possible, even though it is hard. Following things worked for me:
- i wanted change
- i started to learn how to be honest with myself
- a very good trauma therapist who I trust and believe in
- I learned to feel again and how to handle my feelings and that they're ok
- new and different experiences to relearn how things (and maybe even the world works) and form new habits
- supportive people who value and accept me (from friends to work etc.)
- behavioural therapy might help as well
This has been a process for at least 3 years now, the most important part so far was to learn how to feel again. ❤
Nice out line thank you
My guide in the past is sense of humor lack of or dark humor or even a defensiveness to levity a psychopaths sense of humor will only drop in an and mantain when it's at someone's else's Expense
To assess by pupil dilation "in the wild" you'd also need to know what part of the environment people were reacting to. This is easy in a laboratory where everything is boring except for the sound or image that is offered to elicit a possible response.
Can people have factor 1 and factor 2 psychopathy? Also, I’m in MD DE VA
I heard you are in D.E :) and I’m in recovery. Thank you for all you do Dr Grande
I have studied this subject a lot being a psychology student. I think the disconnect is so widely all pervasive in the psychopathic mind that just the pupils would not really suffice. Doing a MFRI and looking at the psychopaths brain mind prove more affective. You mentioned the amygdala and there is a definite disconnection between the prefrontal cortex the executive brain and the amygdala. Now, if the amygdala is more in control when the psychopath is being triggered or stimulated this would explain the pupil dilation I think. The nobodies home blank could be that disconnection. I have been wondering lately that if an adolescent say a14 year old was displaying conduct disorder could we stop him from being a killer by doing neurological testing? I hope our society can progress forward in that so many lives could be saved. So, to focus on pupil dilation is interesting indeed but the psychopaths overall physiology and neural imaging might be a way to help every one concerned. Thanks Dr Grande you rock!
Food for thought. Good coment
There is treatment available from at least as far back as the 90s. It's been shown by researchers to often be caused by oxygen deprivation during birth. No child chooses to have ASPD. They are not willfully harmful. It's a disturbance in the communication between their frontal cortex and the limbic system where the amygdala is in the brain. A documentary made on young children with conduct disorder and adults with ASPD in the 90s shows that ADHD medicine makes their impulses slow down and allows them to focus and apply themselves at school and feel emotions and empathy. Their behaviour completely changes. Also biofeedback therapy in adults showed that they can learn to focus and apply themselves constructively to their lives and not feel the urges to break the laws. It's a fascinating documentary and everyone should watch it and spread the word on it so that some day we can see a world where every child who could potentially develop ASPD gets the right help and that eventuality is avoided. It's titled 'The Dangerous Few' and it's available on UA-cam. It's sad that despite treatment being developed in the 80s and 90s even today many children are not getting it as awareness levels of ASPD and the treatment are so low.
Awesomely interesting comment!! This sort of mind study, I find to be incredibly fascinating to say the least..I've only seen limited clips on similar type research. I'd love to view/read more on this topic.. Any chance you can direct a layman like me, on a good place to start? Many thanks 😊
Great points, but I think as far as treating them goes, we need to under stand why they thrive, its because a large portion of society is not capable of even identifying let alone fixing them, but we need to ultimately create an environment that is not condusive for them. An environment where, to be one, would to be commit social suicide. But we don't want to witch hunt, we need difinitive ways of understanding what to do with them after they are discovered, its a hard question because if everyone was able to combat these psychopaths by identifying them as soon as they show red flags, how would the psycopaths respond? There would be nothing they could do, and they would be like children in a world of emotion that they could never grasp, sad, but maybe they will in another life. I find it very unlikely to ever truly teach a psychopath how to feel, which is essentially the issue, they cant feel, so life isn't real, we can, so life can be unbelievably real at times, realness defined as impact on the meaning of our life.
@@TheXComputerXDr This is exactly why they mimick emotions and wear a mask to hide. Because they are actually just children of 6-7 when they realise they are different and that others think these reactions called emotions are something very important. So they observe, practice and learn to fake them. They live very lonely lives except for the few people if any in their lives who do figure them out and still accept them as they are or whom they can drop their masks around. It's very tiring having a mask on all the time socially so they shy away from unnecessary social interactions as well. I have friends who are this way. They don't choose to be this way, their brains fire differently. And there are treatment protocols for it but not commonly known of as awareness of the condition as well as treatment is extremely low among people.
Appreciate your videos and enjoy the topics and the knowledge around mental health. As far as spotting a psychopath by their eyes, I would think that you left out one point, and I hope you accept these thoughts: Research, well controlled or otherwise, does seems to show some response (2 seconds, etc), however research is not the same as someone on the street, or home, or job, or... that looks into a person's eyes and feels they can spot this response. Measurement of pupils in research are mechanical (in a sense) and most people cannot spot the overall size or time of change from a 'social' distance. And, the person doing the looking into the eyes would have to have a clear understanding whether they were presenting a positive, negative or neutral stimulus if the person was looking directly at them, and / or the affective situation in the proximate environment at the moment the eyes are being observed. I hope I am not off the mark, but open to criticism.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you for the insights, Dr. Grande!! However, I am not familiar with the technical terms you mentioned, as I don't study psychology. However, the most disturbing experiences were when they stare at me as if I had been guilty for some kind of crime in their lives, while I had nothing to do with anything wrong, knew nothing about when it happened, even when I asked around, nobody answered. If you were me, what would you do?! Thank you and God bless🙏🤞
Who are these ppl that are staring at you?
Narcissists in the workplace, i got many of them in my workplace.
thank you so much for this interesting topic last year in master's degree business english and communication which is my specialty at university i was taught a subject that is called social psychology by our teacher mr david friesen social psychology is the scientific study of behaviour affect and cognition to measure emotions feelings thoughts and the human behaviour i love social psychology a lot because it has lots of theories like confirmation bias disfluency love attraction laws and so much more theories including body language and pupil dilation it is so interesting to learn social psychology because it affects every aspect of our life like our decisions preferences identities and our life choices from your marriage partner that you choose to live with to your academic and educational career as well as your professional career kurt lewin and leon festinger are major and prominent social psychologists
by the way , i love the way you facilititate explanation of thoughts and theories so easily to understand them thank you again for your generous videos i appreciate them i learn something new from you everyday and you make me learn lots of english vocabulary each day thank you enormously
best regars yousra
Now I cant get the image of a "jumpscare"-test being used out of my head. 😂
Interesting video as always. 👍❤
Very interesting indeed! Thanks Dr.
In the interest of science, investigations of various personality traits must be "dissected" so to speak. However, I was wondering if there is any evidence for "gut feelings" one may experience around a psychopath? It would be quite interesting how such research would be conducted. Thank you very much for your insightful posts.👍
I experienced a huge fear with no reason at all. I felt something was off
@@mentalcat9529 I second that. Those of us that have a heightened sense of feeling just know. For me it's like dissociation but in a hyper aware state where I see it though my third eye. It's hard to explain. I could so describe it as a foreshadowing scene in a psychothriller where later I'm the character that gets to say I told you so when ish goes down.
It is your brain that is seeing things that you don't notice consciously.