No, Shell Smash Doesn't Make Torterra Top Tier Competitively

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  • @FreezaiPokemon
    @FreezaiPokemon  Рік тому +69

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    • @ahsrafulshamrat8113
      @ahsrafulshamrat8113 Рік тому +66

      Get the bag Freezai

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 Рік тому +1

      Torterra is probably going to be OU anyway, even if it's bad. At least at the beginning.

    • @proximaace4332
      @proximaace4332 Рік тому

      Did I miss something? Since when did you have sponsors??

    • @Pam234
      @Pam234 Рік тому +4

      ⁠@@proximaace4332what? You can have sponsors at any time...

    • @LiliumOrientalis
      @LiliumOrientalis Рік тому +22

      Hell yeah Freezai get that bread! Even if I'll never touch that grindy mess

  • @psychicjellyfish9466
    @psychicjellyfish9466 Рік тому +301

    Someone once suggested giving Torterra Rock Head as an ability to mitigate recoil from Wood Hammer.

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr Рік тому +66

      I'd give him solid rock for lore accuracy.

    • @BananaR777
      @BananaR777 Рік тому +3

      That'd help big timr.

    • @Lunacy4
      @Lunacy4 Рік тому +3

      @@cristhianmlr -pokemon
      -lore
      pick one

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr Рік тому +11

      @@Lunacy4 there's plenty of lore friendly abilties for Pokémon so both.

    • @GAMERO-PHOBIA
      @GAMERO-PHOBIA Рік тому +3

      Go head smash wood hammers bruuuhhhh

  • @perladel95
    @perladel95 Рік тому +591

    0:44
    I think this infographic is a bit misleading regarding Drednaw.
    In Gen 8 Drednaw was in ZU but it didn't have Shell Smash unlike Carracosta and Crustle.
    In Gen 9 Drednaw got Shell Smash and now it's NUBL, as Tera-Dark Strong Jaw Crunch is demonic (and you're immune to prankster encore).
    It was even RUBL some time ago, while Cloyster was RU (probably the turtle dropped to NU because RU council freed its banlist too late)

    • @FreezaiPokemon
      @FreezaiPokemon  Рік тому +294

      you're right, that was an oversight, after Drednaw got shell smash it became NUBL, still pretty low tier but not ZU levels of low. I'll add a correction to the description.
      Thanks for pointing it out

    • @perladel95
      @perladel95 Рік тому +39

      ​@@FreezaiPokemon
      No problem. I'm always happy when you upload these videos in any case!

    • @theimprovedbore550
      @theimprovedbore550 Рік тому +13

      @@FreezaiPokemoncommon Freezai W

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 Рік тому +3

      ".*blank* is now NUBL in gen 9"
      -Gen 9 Smogon, 2023.
      Seriously, NU just went through a loop the past few months. And Drednaw did not help it a single bit.

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Рік тому +4

      I think an issue with Shell Smash is that it becomes less viable each generation due to power creep.
      You essentially make your Pokemon into a glass cannon, but taking a turn to do that when you already have Pokemon that are fast, strong, and defensively weak without setting up, makes you question in higher-tiers "Why should I use Shell Smash Torterra when I could use Chien-Po?"
      It's creeping into lower-tiers, too.

  • @turtlenator6249
    @turtlenator6249 Рік тому +106

    I'm just happy Torterra got any buffs to make it a bit better. Tried some sets in VGC doubles and it's been very fun to use.

  • @swagdoll420
    @swagdoll420 Рік тому +66

    While Torterra's chances in OU are pretty much nonexistent, but I do think it will be good in the lower tiers, like RU or maybe UU, where the strength levels are more manageable for it.

  • @floorgle
    @floorgle Рік тому +11

    Not related to the video, but i love the change in enthusiasm between the video and the sponsored segment, honest fair play to get the bank from those sponsors

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 Рік тому +38

    IDK about White Herb... Headlong Rush and Wood Hammer already cost you bulk on use (either raw HP or lowering defenses). How many situations are you going to smash (usually taking an attack first), then still have the bulk to take hits if you attack with your STAB moves first?

    • @jmcbango
      @jmcbango Рік тому +3

      Yea life orb is pretty much better on that set in every way

    • @idkputsomerandomname9657
      @idkputsomerandomname9657 Рік тому +7

      Lum berry is better imo, since faster teams beat it anyway but we remove bulky teams' options to burn/poison it.

  • @happymoomoocow
    @happymoomoocow Рік тому +19

    If you told me Torterra would be better than Heatran in OU in Gen 4 I’d have laughed at you, but here we are

  • @hauntedsunsets
    @hauntedsunsets Рік тому +194

    it doesn't have anything to do with the topic but seeing Torterra's 3d model in detail is really just. I can see how much modern pokemon tend to be designed with 3d models in mind so it can often work much better, but instead of getting any kind of upgrade that even subtly changes the design to make it work better in 3d some older mons get screwed over like Torterra with that lazily smoothed out clay instead of anything resembling grass on its back

    • @WishMakers
      @WishMakers Рік тому +57

      Some Pokemon really benefit from the shift - I can safely say that Pokemon like Muk actually improve their look due to all the texture and shader work they get now. Particularly some of the flying Pokemon/Pokemon that *can* now fly in SV instead of being exclusively grounded are cool too and get a new mode of expression.
      Unfortunately for mons like Torterra, they don't realistically give an equal amount of love to every Pokemon and Torterra has a particularly cool but asymmetrical and detailed design. He absolutely could work in 3D! But he needed more care and attention and clearly didn't get it.
      In general, I will always love the 2D art of Pokemon more. Call me a nostalgic curmudgeon if you will, but I think even newer Pokemon look better in sprite form. However, I do respect where 3D Pokemon's look is improving and I hope Torterra and mons like him get more of it, it's unfortunate to have such a cool base and be stuck with no detail...

    • @hankhill6404
      @hankhill6404 Рік тому +32

      Seeing the tera crystal flopping around on the tree like a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tubeman looks so bad lmao

    • @jamesn0va
      @jamesn0va Рік тому +10

      ​@@hankhill6404yeah man what the hell. Just googled old tortera art and the difference is night and day. Dangerous animal too children's toy

    • @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917
      @ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Рік тому +9

      To be fair, Ursaluna is a new Pokemon designed for 3D that has similar issues with the model.

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 Рік тому +3

      Hell, just a lumpy moss texture would go a really long way

  • @JGaleazziS
    @JGaleazziS Рік тому +36

    Hopefully Torterra will perform better in VGC. Been waiting forever to use him since I got into VGC

  • @MrOMGanASIAN
    @MrOMGanASIAN Рік тому +10

    Theres something funny about it being able to play under trick room, but also the option to set up shell smash on a turn the opponent protects to burn the trick room turn.
    Might not be completely game breaking in VGC but its nice to have

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 Рік тому +3

      That would be a fun flex in a showdown compilation, but I feel like a Pokémon as limited as Torterra is going to be too easy to read for that to be a relevant game state most of the time

  • @Astar24653
    @Astar24653 Рік тому +10

    the highlight for me was "bocchi the rock bl" the cloyster

  • @gabrielmarchena1755
    @gabrielmarchena1755 Рік тому +16

    I usted to abuse shell smash Terra in volt white 2 it was busted with smash + rock head wood hammer combo also It had head smash and 64 base speed stat I just wish terra some day received that kinda of buff in the mainline game❤

  • @TheFizio
    @TheFizio Рік тому +2

    0:12 Except Torkoal

  • @dunk5011
    @dunk5011 Рік тому +3

    On my way to play doubles with Torterra to make it's weaknesses a lot easier to manage

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr Рік тому

      Give my boy Solid Rock. Makes sense with the minerals Turtwig had on it's shell.

  • @Mustache99
    @Mustache99 Рік тому +7

    for me giga drain could also be good you gain back health and it can also use his sp attack, now give I hope infernape will get drain punch

  • @plutoanderis
    @plutoanderis Рік тому +1

    i dont know about smogon tiers but i just had a full shell smash torterra sweep in random battles and idk but it made me happy

  • @tristandahn2284
    @tristandahn2284 Рік тому +3

    Personally I think that rock blast helps him about as much as shell smash. Covers all of his weaknesses with loaded die. I don't think Torterra is OU viable, but I could see it being somewhat decent as a win condition in the tier, and I personally think that RU will be perfect for it.

  • @lukerennie4457
    @lukerennie4457 Рік тому +1

    Its worth noting that tortera shares the vast majority of its checks with iron valient, which might give a niche in ou once kinggambit is banned

  • @jonwoods4590
    @jonwoods4590 7 місяців тому

    idk much about torterra in singles but he’s super underrated in doubles. i use one on my showdown regulation f team with a moveset of shell smash, earthquake, seed bomb and fire tera blast. i actually then recommend giving it a white herb which can ignore intimidates, reset icy wind to keep the full x2 speed boost, or even change it to a free fillet away otherwise. pair it with either a priority hitter to break focus sashes, a tailwind setter for even more speed, or a friend guard + follow me user like clefairy for free setup and extra bulk. terastallize for that powerful STAB fire/grass/ground core and sweep😌

  • @ChompDude
    @ChompDude Рік тому +3

    It may not be the best Pokemon even outside of competitive but it's still my favorite Sinnoh starter.

  • @Quix0tic707
    @Quix0tic707 Рік тому +1

    Yeah I don’t think many people thought this would take Torterra to OU. But I can see this making it a very strong threat in NU/RU, and considering it was Untiered in Gen 7 (despite still being really good in PU) that’s a big improvement.

  • @thaisennj9781
    @thaisennj9781 Рік тому +2

    I’ve been using it with Iron moth, ninetails alolan, hisu zora, and it’s been ight

    • @thaisennj9781
      @thaisennj9781 Рік тому

      Gotta use the loaded dice rockblast bullet seed set

  • @MrArtless1
    @MrArtless1 Рік тому +6

    You missed the chance to say “Torterrible would be an accurate way to describe Torterra”

  • @misfortune5091
    @misfortune5091 Рік тому +1

    3:55 white herb should be pronouced "white erb" (the H is silent)

  • @GAMERO-PHOBIA
    @GAMERO-PHOBIA Рік тому +1

    One things for sure
    Atleast it won't drop to untier this gen 😢

  • @9Destra
    @9Destra Рік тому +3

    I think Torterra will still be viable in OU while not being OU itself. Torterra just needs a specific team to be its best.
    I highly recommend AV Samurott with Sacred Sword and an Iron Valiant counter as partners

    • @kekmandu6118
      @kekmandu6118 Рік тому

      gambit works as a counter as half the valiants dont have a fighting move but you dont wanna hope that it dont got cc or blast

  • @videakias3000
    @videakias3000 Рік тому +1

    Please do a video about galarian weezing.
    It seems as if it is going to be more relevant in gen 9 than gen 8.

  • @Torterra890
    @Torterra890 Рік тому +2

    I don't even care if Torterra's not top tier, this is still one of the moments of all time.

  • @rrteppo
    @rrteppo Рік тому +1

    Tortera seems like a great UU mon. Which is amazing considering what UU looks like now.

  • @krumplin8992
    @krumplin8992 Рік тому +1

    Mega blastiose was banned from Nat dex OU so yeah it was broken

  • @lory3771
    @lory3771 Рік тому

    I love how Torterra’s Tera hat goes on its tree :)

  • @TheGBZard
    @TheGBZard 2 місяці тому

    GF tends to ignore Pokemon who need the help until its too late, like alakazam and gengar with nasty plot and tyranitar with knock off. This is just yet another example of that

  • @thegreataggron
    @thegreataggron Рік тому

    Im just glad my boy finally gets to have its time to be talked about

  • @doc_vader2776
    @doc_vader2776 Рік тому +1

    Shed tail into torterra followed by 2 shellsmash is making people rage quit.

    • @umezonors
      @umezonors Рік тому

      Shed tail is banned for a reason

    • @doc_vader2776
      @doc_vader2776 Рік тому

      @@umezonors not in Random battles tho.

    • @umezonors
      @umezonors Рік тому +1

      Yeah and this is about the actual singles format not random battles

    • @doc_vader2776
      @doc_vader2776 Рік тому

      @@umezonors The video you mean. I was talking about the time I made 2 guys rage quit in random battles with this.

  • @pikminman13
    @pikminman13 Рік тому +1

    the agency does not approve of this sentiment
    torterra is good enough to become the mon that gets sacked so the ou mons do the work

  • @kheireddineattala1281
    @kheireddineattala1281 Рік тому +1

    Game freak getting a page outa radical red book

  • @johnnyjohnson4265
    @johnnyjohnson4265 Рік тому +1

    I hope Torterra doesn't get stuck in OU due to over hype. I feel like it would need more to become truly high tier but it feels good that we could have a prime physical sweeper in lower tiers

  • @lordinfernape4753
    @lordinfernape4753 Рік тому +4

    Ita not about how many weaknesses and resistances you have, its about how relevant are they
    Being weak to Fire and Ice is huge

  • @robbierotten2024
    @robbierotten2024 Рік тому +4

    I think it could be a nice surprise pick depending on the current meta. It’s just really sad that it got such a good boost, but the other new mechanics are just anti-tottera. Lots of strong priority users, lots of strong unaware Mon, and lots of very very fast Pokémon like Iron Valiant (I hate iron valiant so much lol). I wonder how well it would be if so many things didn’t get it all at once. Like, it won’t thrive in UU specifically because of there being an abundance of strong priority move users and then the fire alligator. Remove those priority users and it would be great in UU I think.

  • @awpandamia
    @awpandamia Рік тому +1

    4:50 the items are swapped i think

  • @EDoyl
    @EDoyl 8 місяців тому

    Every pokemon with a horn gets megahorn and every pokemon with a shell gets shell smash, this should be a hard rule.

  • @paulmann8570
    @paulmann8570 Рік тому

    We can, in fact, imagine Mega Smashstoise.
    It's called National Dex and it was banned.

  • @Heartache1470
    @Heartache1470 Рік тому

    Our son finally got blessed

  • @trevordp
    @trevordp Рік тому +1

    As long as torterra isn't bottom tier/untiered I'm happy.

  • @QuestionableLogic_
    @QuestionableLogic_ Рік тому +1

    It's hilarious how any and all general discussion about a Pokémon's strength can be completely dumpstered by the "It's not going to cut it in OU so who gives a shit" sentiment. It makes sense since OU is standard play, after all.

  • @enricobersani8948
    @enricobersani8948 Рік тому +1

    The only thing missing here is a good ability, imagine if torterra had rock head instead of shell armor

  • @jonathanchen4987
    @jonathanchen4987 11 місяців тому

    It's pretty funny that Ash used his Torterra as a speedster and now everyone can use Torterra as a speedster too.

  • @UserName-ei7dk
    @UserName-ei7dk Рік тому

    My dude got sponsored, LETS GO!

  • @calebcook6372
    @calebcook6372 Рік тому

    I love this deep dive on a buffed Pokémon

  • @kefkapalazzo1
    @kefkapalazzo1 Рік тому

    I love that carmine theme so much

  • @thehappyaipom
    @thehappyaipom 11 місяців тому

    Seeing them be smart about moves like Shell Smash makes me wonder what pokemon was smoking when they made and allowed the likes of Zacian and calyrex into the meta

  • @OriginalBestPersonEver
    @OriginalBestPersonEver Рік тому

    Every single time this thing has used Shell Smash as a set up, I've used Foul Play the very next turn to OHKO. I'm sure this buff is effective in many circumstances, but I just see it as a free KO so far.

  • @rene9175
    @rene9175 Рік тому +8

    Ok, but hear me out; Mixed Shell Smash Torterra. Don't like Wood Hammer's recoil? Use Giga Drain instead.

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy Рік тому +2

      that's genius. Don't like recoil? Heal yourself, fivehead!

    • @Xeamless
      @Xeamless Рік тому

      And spread your investment while not getting any coverage, recoil isn't even that bad.

  • @swagfun9054
    @swagfun9054 Рік тому

    this dude loves carmines theme and the torna battle theme lmao (not complaining but funny)

  • @CoffeeFlavoredMilk
    @CoffeeFlavoredMilk Рік тому

    I wonder if you'll make a video about Roost Empoleon and Flip Turn Alomomola.

  • @AverageHandle_
    @AverageHandle_ Рік тому

    0:50: tbf Drednaw is now NUBL with shell smash which isn’t too bad

  • @Jacob-df5hr
    @Jacob-df5hr Рік тому

    Grats on the sponsor man

  • @laterferaligatr2947
    @laterferaligatr2947 Рік тому +1

    I use mixed Shell Smash tho. I dont like its physical grass STABS (due to recoil or weak base power ) and choose to Giga Drain instead

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL Рік тому

      There’s also Power Whip which instead of recoil it has 85% Acc.
      And it doesn’t get that, it has Leaf Blade in LLA but couldn’t keep that either

  • @nickolassussybaka437
    @nickolassussybaka437 11 місяців тому

    I use tera steel torterra to counter ice type and white herb to fix the drop of is defense of shell smash

  • @treyduuc8
    @treyduuc8 Рік тому

    where do you get your bacground music from

  • @spindash64
    @spindash64 Рік тому

    It might not be top tier, but it DOES at least give it a theoretical niche in UU or OU. When I say that, I don’t mean it will BE OU or UU, I mean that there will be certain _specific_ teams in those tiers that can make very good use of Torterra, even if it’s otherwise too inconsistent for other teams. For example, a team that already has speed control of some kind built in to keep Scarfers in check

  • @csolisr
    @csolisr Рік тому

    What do you mean that PU doesn't stand for "Pretty-much-never Used"?

  • @Triattack007
    @Triattack007 Рік тому

    Is that RJ pasin I hear Freezai??

  • @diamsword6273
    @diamsword6273 Рік тому

    Hey what happened to the no restrictions format and tournament you host ?

  • @felipefroehnerteixeira4777
    @felipefroehnerteixeira4777 Рік тому +1

    Can you do this Kind od video on vgc

  • @ethangnasher3848
    @ethangnasher3848 Рік тому

    The moment I heard about the change I knew it meant nothing significant, Torterra's abilities are meh, stats low-key worthless for modern gen's power-creep and nothing noteworthy on the movepool to justify bringing something that can get obliterated by flying and fkn bug moves. When I told my brother he just looked at me with a straight face and said "still isn't competitive viable", and he plays the games WAY more than I, fucker just completed Galar's pokedex after like two weeks of actively wanting to complete it, and planning on trying to complete Paldea's (mind you, he's doing this on his spare time since he works).

  • @Marcus-uz1mr
    @Marcus-uz1mr Рік тому

    WE MAKING IT OUT OF PU WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣

  • @ihsaningersoll9232
    @ihsaningersoll9232 Рік тому

    Holy damn love this editing style

  • @higlythehylotle7318
    @higlythehylotle7318 Рік тому

    what is the deal with Dreadnaw? it's a shell smasher that has a higher attack and speed then both Torterra and Cloyster but it's in NU BL for some reason.

  • @KainaX122
    @KainaX122 Рік тому

    I imagine Shell Smash on Torterra is very _good,_ but you’ve still to get over it’s weakness of slow speed and 4x damage from Ice if you don’t Tera

  • @handoverthestromboli6715
    @handoverthestromboli6715 Рік тому +1

    Top tier OU: 😡 ban this garbage😡
    Top tier UU: ☺️i love them sm☺️
    Top tier RU and below: lmao who cares

  • @andybeyer2230
    @andybeyer2230 Рік тому

    We don't have to imagine M-Blastoise with shell smash. Every Natdex format bans it almost immediately

  • @myguy9320
    @myguy9320 Рік тому

    i gotta watch blunder use it. then i’ll know it’s a great mon with many opportunities to sac

  • @danielhale1
    @danielhale1 Рік тому +9

    As I understand it, Showdown doesn't really have an AI opponent (and the core game AI opponents are not great), and I don't like playing against real people. That's the main thing keeping me from wanting to try these neat strategies. But it's really interesting watching your videos and learning about all the strategic depth of the game!

    • @CanadianBaconPwnage
      @CanadianBaconPwnage Рік тому +15

      Well, in low ladder, most opponents you face will feel like AI anyhow. 😅

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy Рік тому +5

      all the way down to utterly incomprehensible predictions that result in you losing BECAUSE your opponent did a dumb thing that would usually be a bad play@@CanadianBaconPwnage

    • @miguelaguilar5115
      @miguelaguilar5115 Рік тому +2

      I never thought about it. An AI opponent would be interesting

    • @danielhale1
      @danielhale1 Рік тому +7

      @@CanadianBaconPwnageTrue, but the AI can take a loss without throwing a psychotic tantrum or very loudly acting like a victim, etc. Low-ladder opponents are often very immature, either because they're literally 10 and think like a Team Rocket grunt (most will grow out of it), or because they're mentally children despite being in their thirties. :D
      A major advantage of AI is I can repeatedly throw myself against it with different approaches and learn by doing, and the AI never gets tired of me or treats me like crap. It'd have to be deliberately programmed to be toxic, while with people the toxicity almost comes for free.
      AI is indifferent and that's a huge plus. Usually in multiplayer games I prefer single player vs AI or Coop vs AI.

    • @CanadianBaconPwnage
      @CanadianBaconPwnage Рік тому +4

      @@danielhale1 Well said. I spoke mostly in jest. There are advantages to being able to solitaire/goldfish against competent AI before braving the ladder.

  • @Victoria69420
    @Victoria69420 Рік тому

    The black faids messed me up

  • @watertypes4evers
    @watertypes4evers Рік тому

    I think he should get a priority move cause it’ll be funny

  • @InFiNiTeO7
    @InFiNiTeO7 Рік тому

    All Pokemon like Torterra ever want is a buff, and I'm sure the players who favor those pokemon don't necessarily want nor need for them to be "Mega Salamence levels of good".
    They just want their favorite mon to be usable, and not being left in the dust.

  • @IloveHildasfeet
    @IloveHildasfeet Рік тому +14

    Giving a slow bulky mon shell smash is just the same as giving a psychic nuke cosmic power. It makes sense but doesn’t work

    • @dinoman6481
      @dinoman6481 Рік тому

      It is like making bulky ice types.

    • @SnoFitzroy
      @SnoFitzroy Рік тому +2

      @@dinoman6481 you mean SLOW bulky ice types. What we need is a bulky ice type that doesn't have ass speed. Like regice literally has enough BST to do that but nooooooooooooo they just have to punish every ice type for existing :(
      I do appreciate that Chien-Pao is just Better Weavile tho, never really liked weavile all that much

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL Рік тому +4

      @@SnoFitzroyMamoswine (80 Spe) and Baxcalibur (87 Spe) are right there
      The latter was even banned

    • @kekmandu6118
      @kekmandu6118 Рік тому

      they said bulky ice types mamo and bax arent bulky walls@@goGothitaLOL

    • @kekmandu6118
      @kekmandu6118 Рік тому

      they meant a bulky ice type with some speed@@goGothitaLOL

  • @Drax-Striker
    @Drax-Striker Рік тому

    Shell smash Torterra when my 2.5x Def Zamazenta

  • @ml_aken_ttv1703
    @ml_aken_ttv1703 Рік тому

    I love taunting a tort with my ambipom 💀

  • @andersonweir11
    @andersonweir11 Рік тому

    Dont use sp atx and speed but use def and spdef.if had move raise atx def and speed

  • @gregorymirabella1423
    @gregorymirabella1423 Рік тому +4

    I lost a game because it missed a rock blast on a Dragonite, so forgive me for not wanting to touch this thing anymore.
    Also, at 4:47 it looks like you mixed up the sets there.

  • @robsquare2622
    @robsquare2622 Рік тому

    *shake dice* please roll Shift gear Metagross and Aggron

  • @noahbrock4057
    @noahbrock4057 Рік тому

    As someone who plays RU alot I don’t see torterra being too great there either if he drops. There not really anything that makes him better than cloyster and there’s definitely not room for two shell smash mons to thrive considering cloyster is already kinda mid in RU.

  • @SERMareep2007
    @SERMareep2007 Рік тому

    Yet they wont give ampharos mold breaker as a hidden ability

  • @doomsdoor
    @doomsdoor Рік тому

    Ill miss torterra in PU

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 Рік тому

    Definitely not top tier, but I don't think it will be PU or even NU anymore. Not enough to bring Torterra to OU or UU, but definitely enough for RU imo
    Also, another important note, even without Shell Smash, crit me not sets are better in lower tiers because Shell Armor means you don't have to worry about the 1/24 chance and you caneither tera fire to prevent burn or tera poison/steel to prevent Toxic

  • @johnsnow5125
    @johnsnow5125 Рік тому

    Oh my god, that Warthunder waifu body pillow sponsorship

  • @bibbagamer1284
    @bibbagamer1284 Рік тому

    I finally know what pu and zu mean

  • @jesterhyorax408
    @jesterhyorax408 Рік тому

    Torterra also should have leaf blade again my god that’s a good move for it instead of just wood hammer alone cmon gamefreak give torterra leaf blade back!!

    • @InsaneGarrison25
      @InsaneGarrison25 Рік тому

      Leaf Blade would be its worst Grass option as it’s a contact move weaker than Wood Hammer and Seed Bomb and Loaded Dice Bullet Seed don’t make contact

    • @jesterhyorax408
      @jesterhyorax408 Рік тому

      @@InsaneGarrison25 yeah seed bomb is good for sure I do agree with u though for sure still wish they would bring leaf blade back anyway

  • @chargestone96
    @chargestone96 Рік тому

    Ok but you pronouncing polteageist as poltergeist is a war crime

  • @nickbitle2983
    @nickbitle2983 Рік тому

    Torterra Smash!!!

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 Рік тому

    Grass/Ground typing is always going to hold Torterra back. It's just not a good type combo.

  • @connorbosley4431
    @connorbosley4431 Рік тому

    YES IT DOES, DON'T RUIN MY DREAM

  • @spectralized8407
    @spectralized8407 Рік тому

    Torterra is now UU, this isn't a drill.

  • @JFarenci
    @JFarenci Рік тому

    Absolutely slanderous!

  • @psyrtemis
    @psyrtemis Рік тому

    RU in my bookd

  • @hayagreevveeru2945
    @hayagreevveeru2945 Рік тому

    You should do a RE ranking of all the starter Pokémon including hisui and paldean

  • @abraham-kun4144
    @abraham-kun4144 Рік тому

    I hope Shell Armor have its effect changed, cause the effect of blocking critical hits makes no sense, or having his hidden ability changed in a future.