CAMILLA DOESN’T WANT TO BE PREGNANT ANYMORE?🤰🏼 // IVF Q&A
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Camilla temporarily prioritising her career over pregnancy is still prioritising family. Firstly, it's part of your family's financial income and secondly, it ensures you never hold any resentment that your children prevented you from achieving your personal goals. So long as you still show your children the love and support they need while achieving career goals, it doesn't matter what order you get pregnant in.
Yes! ❤❤
And anyone who says they "don't understand", or "don't get it": we see Men prioritize their careers in heterosexual relationships All The Time. If someone truly doesn't get it, then they need to ask if they would still have an issue if she was a man (and then take several seats while they do some self reflection and process why)
Also they *just* had a baby! Learning how to live your lives with a new tiny human takes a while.
@@tazziplissken And I think a big part of it is her seeing her partner's experience and adjusting her expectations to the reality of the situation, which is actually super responsible imo.
I think a lot of people have this picture in their heads of what pregnancy/parenthood is gonna look like for them before they have kids, and things rarely go according to that plan. Not necessarily badly, it's just different from how you thought it'd be, and you gotta adjust. Yeah, you may have planned for the dirty diapers and other more obvious less pleasant parts of parenthood, but didn't realize how much morning sickness could knock you out or logistically think about how hard it would be to be pregnant with a small child at home while working on the next steps in your career. Better to plan ahead and say maybe not right now than get yourself in a situation where you're physically drained, emotionally burnt out, and regretting the choices that led to that.
But the older you get the harder it gets to get pregnant. Us women have a biological clock we just do. So no we cannot wait forever and there is never really a right or perfect time but you can wait too late. I thought my opinion she should have a child first if she wants one because she is older. But maybe she still will later. I hope she has a girl. From what I understand this is Camilla child not Julie's? I might be wrong but from what someone told me they were going to get pregnant with each others kid and birth each others kid?
@@ravenc4912 better no children and a happy life than too many children and resentment
I'm a transguy who's been considering donating my eggs when I'm 21, hearing that it can support families like yours warms my heart
That is so sweet and brave of you.. Thank you much ❤❤
Ur disgrace woman 😂
noooo don't do that, save some for yourself, you may regret it one day.
@@moonsigil .......sweety....like what!?
@@BowieTheOctoBear Yes?
Camila, there is a saying in spanish that goes "madre no es la que pare, si no la que cria". Which translates to "being a mom is not to give birth, being a mom is raising a child." And even thought Julie carried Fry for 9 months and gave birth to him, that doesn't make her more of a mom than you. You both are Fry's mothers to the same level because you are raising him and loving him. You are extemely valid
Es verdad. La que cria es la madre 👵
is his name fry? aww that's cute
we have similar one in Brasil "pai é quem cria" which can mean "dad/parent is the one who raises", and I think thats really beautiful
@@sleepdeprivedjuiceboxno lol, it’s a nickname
@@Katzzukey ah I only know the Nik name sunny . my bad lol
As a younger queer person, I just wanted to say that your guy's content is so healing to see. Growing up I know I've felt very hopeless, like Julie said, there's not really a "mold" for me to follow, and I've felt very lost. Even though I don't think I'll ever be a parent, it's just really really nice to see people like me being happy. I hope I find the sort of love that you two have one day.
Same ❤❤
You will, but don't settle for any less. If you change your mind and want children, you can, in a number of ways. ❤
Yeah seeing queer joy is so so healing
'it's you're favourite lesbians'
Yes. Yes you are. You two are the best.
Edit: A bit into the video, and now I'm crying. You two are the SWEETEST.
Love this
You guys are our favourite lesbians
Absolutely gorgeous you to ❤️
New tagline?!
I’m a shell 😭
*your
Exactly this!
I was a surrogate mother in 1983, as it began. My dear friend, and fellow surrogate, Shannon Boff, carried the world’s first IVF baby! We both went on to be surrogates again, and I have had the wonder of watching surrogacy go from this contentious topic, to just another way for people to have children. I’m proud of the ground we broke, both as surrogates, and as the first IVF carrier, particularly because of all the opposition and criticism we faced, and I’m proud to have watched the normalization of something we were vilified for doing.
That's a super cool title to hold. Much respect for the sacrifices you made.
I actually have so much respect for you and your friend
I think it's awesome your friend, Sharon, was the first. Were you the second or somewhere further down the line? Do you have contact with the child(ren) or parents that you carried for? I think it is an incredible gift. Also, I've always been curious if the babies get any of your DNA because your blood flows through them. I hope that doesn't sound like a dumb question. I'm truly curious. Thanks so much for answering any questions! ❤ 😊
The world's first IVF baby, Louise Brown, was born in England in 1978, and she was not carried by a surrogate.
I'm not a fan of anything that turns women into a commodity.
When Julia said “it is not finding the person you were before pregnancy or during pregnancy, but finding this new person”…that is 100% accurate how I felt postpartum.
Absolutely!! I'm pregnant with baby #3 and definitely do not know who I am right now 😭😭 it's so hard when all of your attention is on your Littles.
So true! One month into this new adventure!
I am a teen who recently discovered that I am lesbian and I'm so excited to see this wholesome representation because as a lesbian i will hopefully someday have an IVF wifh my wife and lead the dream life you two lead now. My thank you from one girl will hopefully remind you of all the other queers you are helping by just existing. Please keep making positive educational content like this for more baby gays!😊
as a bi teen, these two are my comfort couple 😭 i see them as THE golden standard for my future wlw relationships
The first time I saw your channel was a clip of you running on the beach, in the rain, in your beautiful black and white wedding dresses, and I was hooked!
I am a heterosexual 73 year old woman, and I feel so proud of you two beautiful, amazing, interesting, and intelligent women who show the world what a "normal" loving couple can do and be together. You two are perfect together, and you have made a beautiful life and a beautiful baby. Congratulations!
This just made me cry, such beautiful words ❤
@@nikkibevan91 That comment made me cry too. Beautiful❤❤
I love how your outlook is positive and you just radiate strong golden energy.
I appreciate that you always put in-video captions
rightttt me too
Agreed
Same. I’m deaf. It’s hard enough getting accurate captions with the CC buttons. Camilla and Julie are so inclusive and I love it. Especially because I know from experience how much extra work adding in captions is
yeah I was gonna comment this on the last long haul vid because how helpful and inclusive is that, they’re good people
totally ! i like that there’s a black outline on the white text too ! it makes it easier to read as someone with dyslexia in comparison to just white text.
What my mom told me about post pregnancy bodies is that the extra fluff that doesn’t go away is comfortable for your baby to rest on and cuddle into you 🥰
I love that!
how lucky am i to be able to experience becoming a woman, going through my teen years with such incredible role models. wow. thank you so much for staying realistic and making us girls feel valid and normal. im crying
i agree 🥹
What Camilla said about women always wanting our bodies to look like they did before a change at 18:25 really resonated with me. Well said
YES. Why is it even a thing to go 'back to pre-pregnancy body / normal'? This is the new normal. Be healthy and happy in your new body.
Even if you don't go though pregnancy and even if you are male, your body will change during your life - possibly slower, but you will change. That's supposed to happen. That happens when you live a life. And it is a wonderful.
I have a friend of a friend lesbian couple that had a child. One became pregnant by donor. The other woman of the couple felt a lot like Camilla. Where am I in this equation? When a hetero couple have a baby, both of them are part of the baby. But you two did it. By having Julie carry Camilla's fertilized egg, you two did it! Both of you are part of Sunny. Just like a hetero couple. I think this is HUGE. You will figure it out Camilla. Bless you three. ❤
My little girl is 5 months old. I'm just starting to accept that my body is forever different. That's ok 😊
@@gemmathiel8228beautiful words 😢❤
You guys NAILED the effect having a first baby has on you and your relationship. It’s like you were two planets orbiting each other and then suddenly a sun comes into the system that you both now orbit. You are together on the ride, but the focus is completely different and it can feel wonderful but awkward. Thank you for always being so open and real.
Also, Camilla’s app is probably the first “influencer” app I have ever looked forward to!
this is such a good simile of how becoming a parent changes relationships
Very well said, thank you for that.
As a gay dad I can tell you that you are doing everything right, it’s hard to decide what you should put first but the child will always love you regardless for who you are and they will grow up to be great
I love how as you watch the video, you can see how much they listen to each other and respect eachothers feelings and veiws, it's really empowering to see.
Question time stamps
0:40 What is ivf?
3:06 How much did they pay for ivf?
4:28 How did they choose a donor?
7:46 Does it hurt?
9:33 How did you prepare your body for embryo transfer?
12:26 Is camilla going to carry baby #2?
15:16 How does Julia feel about her postpartum body?
19:40 Talking about sex
20:18 Do they feel their relationship has changed since having a baby
You're a legend man thank you
Thank you
@@S_J_banana you're welcome
omg tysmmmm
Thank you
Physical resemblance is actually super important for the feeling of belonging. Many adopted kids, especially kids that are adopted into a family of a different ethnic background, can feel really out of place, leading to "identity crisis". Not superficial at all to want some resemblance.
i am from a mixed family, and my dad passed when i was very young. we don’t know his side of the family well, so i grew up without a lot of the culture, and being asked “are you adopted?” even though i was not. it took me a very long time to feel apart of my family bc we didn’t look alike. not saying you have to look alike to be a family, but it does have an impact mentally, i can attest to that.
If a child knows from birth that they were adopted they have a much lower likelihood of feeling out of place.I picked my baby boy’s parents and we have an open adoption. He is now an adult and he is completely fine , happy and thriving.
Sadly, it will probably help them socially in the long run. They can be as supportive and amazing mums as they want, bullies can get mean. Not looking like your part of your family is a very easy thing to use to bully someone. Regardless of the trials he faces I’m sure his mums have his back
@@cheyennetetrault3213They live in a country that doesn’t tolerate that kind of behavior.
@@charisselinnell-morton4137 bullies exist everywhere. I was just trying to agree that yes it is sometimes important look and feel like you belong in your family.
Camilla, I am an adopted mom and I can totally related to the feeling of "lying about being a mom". I never thought inwouldnt be able to have my own baby, but in the end what was important to me was having one no matter what the picture looked like. I had to refine what being a mom looked like in my head and to the world around me. My child was happy, healthy, fed, clean, clothed, safe, sheltered, and now being educated. That is what being a mom is to me, not the journey on how she came to me. You both are very inspiring to me for many reasons. Thank you for what you do! 🥰
yes!! your motherhood is fully valid and so is camilla's.
You’re emotional intelligence amazes me so much. I feel so much connected to you guys and to the way you think. And honestly, as a bi person living in a straight world, you give me hope into thinking that living a life as a gay couple IS POSSIBLE. It’s hard to see that in Italy with all the christian religion following you around, so I am so so happy to see you two, beautiful souls truly.
Can’t wait to keep following your journey, and remember you are so so strong and truly capable of everything. Love you🤍
Yes! Hi EQ 👍🏼🫶🏼
Camilla, in every “traditional” family, both parents share an equally important and vital role in the child’s life. It is no different in a lesbian family unit. You’re just as much mom as Julie. It does not matter that you didn’t carry him. You’re still his mom just as much as a father is dad. Your roll is no less vital in raising him.
The two of you are a beautiful energy together. And Sunny (did I spell that correctly?) is a lucky little baby to have you two as his Moms. ❤
it is absolutely different having two mums as opposed to a mum and dad, as intended by God and nature. you're logically and scientifically wrong in saying that and promoting this
@@maisie1120They're scientifically correct. You have the right to your religious beliefs, but you have ZERO right to try to force them on someone else. You cannot use them to shame or hate on others. You enjoy your beliefs, I'll enjoy mine.
@@maisie1120you're a terrible person. DD
oh piss off why are you even watching these videos if you are going to be a twat@@maisie1120
Have you experienced growing up with two mums or two dads@@maisie1120 ? Science and logic are not on your side in this, there are thousands of examples of same gender relationships in nature. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't try to use terms you don't understand to support your beliefs.
First of all, I’m a Deaf Canadian, thank you SO much for creating in video captions, i hope you guys can continue doing that because we love love your content. Second, you guys are an inspiration, I truly look up to you both! I’m queer, and do struggle with self image. Seeing you guys show, practice and “preach” self care, positive self image, and etc truly is inspirational. I’m STOKED to join Camilla’s app in march, ! Will this app be available internationally ? So excited for you guys, and your journey in the future. Much love 💛🤟🏼
Considering that most of their followers are international (especially North-American) I would assume that her app will be available internationally :)
Hi there, another Canadian here (originally from Victoria, living in Winterpeg for the last 6 years). It's always fun to connect with another one of the 40 million! Have a wonderful 2024, and beyond. ✌️ 🫶 and Joy ❄️🇨🇦❄️!
@@louisejohnson6057 You as well!! I’m from Edmonton, AB. You have a lovely 2024 and on too! 😊 💛 🤟🏼
As someone with crap hearing I’ve got to say ditto. Too many creators forget about those who can’t hear or see as well as most
I love that they do this, too! I have hearing damage and tinnitus, so I watch pretty much everything with captions and too many UA-cam videos don't even have the option of captions.
When I had my first child, my sister, who already had three children, came to visit me in the hospital and told me to not look at my hooha for at least a year, because it takes quiet some time to heal and get used to your new body. In hindsight I am very thankful for her advise. And now, three years after having our second child, I finally kinda feel like my body is my own again. I also remember being absolutely overwhelmed with my new role as a mother. Not so much, because I couldn't handle it, but because I only realised once our child was born, that there is no way back. Your life has changed forever, for better or for worse. At one point, your heart will just kinda come to a full circle and you'll just feel, that whatever that change may bring for you, it is yours and yours alone. As a mother, every accomplishment, every pain, every hurdle and moment of love and laughter, you will have the honor of living it firsthand. Big Momma Bear hug for the both of you. Welcome to your next chapter.
I'm trans masculine (closer to nonbinary), in a beautiful relationship with a trans man. I never wanted kids and always had a hard time with accepting the body that I'm in. As soon as I turned 23 I realized that I do actually want to try to have a baby and that my negative feelings about it were from my toxic family and my general dislike of being seen as female.
All that being said, we're also gonna do IVF. Watching your journey from start to now has given me so much peace of mind because you shared every step of the way and actually showed it not being all sunshine and rainbows. You two are such amazing people and wonderfully silly.
I'm wishing your family good health and happiness ❤
A trans friend said to me once that he felt gifted to be a man and to have the possibility of giving birth
PS: Not saying this is relatable to you I just thought it was beautiful and I had never thought of it that way before, embrace who you are and trust what you believe in♥
Best of luck to you and your partner! 💜
My 21 year-old younger sister had a baby just a couple weeks after you did, she's 6 weeks old now. I'm a 27 year-old lesbian and this holiday season has been rough. My family are very religious and their strict traditional views mean they harshly judge parents of kids who don't raise them with a mother and a father. I came out seven years ago and my parents are still surprised every time I mention my plans for a family one day, as if my sexuality automatically discounts me from ever being a capable mother. Thank you for sharing this video with us. There are plenty of messages I will carry with me in this new year as I try dating again after a horrible break-up in September. Thanks for showing that it's worth keeping hope alive for my future family.
Catie, respectfully, fuck your parents! I was raised by very religious folks and my experience is that they're notoriously poor at parenting and helping their kids at navigating the storms of life. I am a parent and I model my parenting style on my gay friends as they are the BEST parents i know! I feel like those who have gone through and weathered hard times become the most compassionate, gentle and kind parents. I hope that you will find your chosen family and your person who you can build a life you love with and create a family overflowing in joy and love.
Sending you all my love 💝💝
2017 I got my heart broken. I thought I'd never find love. Then 2019, my soulmate found me. Love will find you .I was also 32 in 2019. Love has no age or time limit. Love will find you.
Leave enough time between babies, they need time to fully be babies and toddlers without sharing.
I am a straight woman, but this is the kind of love I want ❤ this is the sweet, compassionate, patient, caring love that I HOPE for! Thank you so much for sharing your journey and your wisdom
Same.
I'm straight as well and this is the cutest couple on UA-cam 😊
Agreed. Cutest couple ever. Straight or gay, UA-cam or not. They are just so so lovely❤❤
I thought I was straight when I started following these two 😂 turns out I'm bi lmfao
@@hashtagmateohh so social media turns u bi ? 🙄
Loved this! Super honest and empowering. Girls/Women especially need more videos like this about how to navigate womanhood, motherhood, sexuality and the changes we experience throughout our journey as women.
I literally cried when you said I don’t feel mom enough. WOMAN, it takes a super human to love as deep as you do for a child you didn’t BLEED FOR WEEKS from. You are ENOUGH PLUS MORE.
I too had a hard time really feeling like my daughter’s mother, as she’s adopted. I look back and see how it took me years to really feel it 100%. Something I’ve never heard anyone on a fertility journey say-that this video coalesced for me is that all of the struggles and losses along that journey impact your senses of being a mother. I put so much energy into my fertility, and then had to have an urgent hysterectomy. There were 2 miscarriages. Then the adoption journey had two failed matches, and another match we declined because it had some shadiness to it. We’d been doing loss for over four years by the time I stood at the bedside of our birth mother and watched as my child was born. I don’t think my soul caught up to the fact that I really was her mom until about three years later on Mother’s Day. I loved her, mothered her, and adored every single moment before that day, but that was they day that all of me knew.
I'm so glad you finally have a daughter now and can enjoy motherhood. It's OK to not feel connection even with bio kids. Happened to me with my first baby. It was planned pregnancy and I was waiting for years to be a mom. And then finally I am pregnant. And I feel nothing. I didn't believe I was pregnant at all. I had many symptoms, I saw ultrasound pictures and still my brain couldn't believe that I was about to have my baby. Even after he was born I felt like I'm babysitting somebody else's kid. Like any minute now his real parents are gonna come in and take him. I think it took me 2 years to realise that my son is MY son. Brains work in weird way sometimes. You finally have that you want and you can't enjoy it because you don't believe your wish came true. I wish you and your daughter all the best :)
🥺 huge respect and love to both you mothers❤❤
Camilla looks so prettty in the pink sweater! The color suits her so much!
It's not pink 😂😂😂
Wrong it is pink its purple in the start
@@AbmafatimaI went to comments to make sure it wasn't me.😂
I thought it was pink too! Is it not??
@@ashleyallen9967 In the thumbnail she is wearing pink.She is wearing purple in the video.I didn't notice the thumbnail at first,that's why people are getting confused.
Julie just listening to Cam while she talks about things with so much attention and kindness and vice-versa is so amazing, i hope one day the person i find is just as sweet
of course we can’t grasp a couple’s dynamic from one video (or watching their channel for nearly two years), but please know that your mindsets are both so wonderful for young people to see. Thank you for sharing your love with us. We, as your audience are grateful to learn from you both!
I did IVF without the f in preparation for chemotherapy and they put me under anesthesia for the egg retrieval (I‘m from Germany) which i really appreciated because the situation itself was so f*cked up knowing you‘re only doing this because you have cancer* and the therapy for it might make you infertile. I didn’t feel anything afterwards not even a little soreness. :)
Health insurance covered all of it except the yearly rent for the freezer space for my eggs which is 278€ :)
*Cancer free now 🤞🏼
glückwunsch
Congratulations!
Stay positive...❤
Yayyyy🎉🎉🎉 Sooo happy that you are cancer-free!!!!!🎉❤❤🎉 CONGRATULATIONS, LOVE!!! I’m also soooo happy for you that everything for IVF was covered by insurance, except the fee to store your embryos🎉🎉 I wish health insurance in the US covered IVF. It’s the ONLY reason I’m not a mommy😭💔 Too expensive to pay outta pocket!!! I have PCOS, but also I have a Hypoplastic uterus (my uterus never grew and is the size of a newborn baby girls uterus💔💔). So, both my chances of getting and staying pregnant is less than 25%!!!!! So I have over a 75% chance of never getting pregnant and over 75% chance not being able to stay pregnant, especially to term at least til baby is viable, and losing our baby…especially in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters!!!!! So my bff has said for 20yrs that she’d be my surrogate (which is also more money, on top of just the “normal” IVF, which that already is too expensive in the US (I’m now 40, with 1 angel baby up in Heaven 👼🏼). So I’m a mommy with no earthbound children💔😭 The pain of losing my son, via missed miscarriage, is HORRIBLE‼️‼️😭😭💔 It’s been 4yrs since we lost our baby boy, Karter, and the pain is still SOO RAW AND REAL, like it happened yesterday!!!! I’m thinking now about getting a bank loan, so that my hubby and I can have a child that’s the both of ours. My hubby has a child from a previous relationship, (AKA my Bonus Son). But since he’s a teenager, I’m definitely not viewed as “mom”. From the research I’ve done, it’s around $40K US dollars, to do IVF (that’s with my BFF’s surrogacy too). I’m disabled, so idk how the hell I’d pay that loan back, with my disability check as my only income…and trust me when I say IT ISN’T MUCH!! When I reached adulthood, life certainly took a turn that I just never expected, AT ALL. I NEVER ONCE expected that I wouldn’t ever be a momma. IT BREAKS MY HEART EVERY DAY‼️💔💔😱😖😫😭
@@ashleyallen9967 Oh no Ashley it breaks my heart reading this ☹️♥️
Thinking of you and hoping that all somehow works out for you. Can‘t imagine going through all this 🥺
@@mutzl9082 You’re very sweet. Thank you so much. We have been hoping for the best outcome, but because we know the stats, we kind of expect the worst. It would truly be a miracle if we are able to have a baby.
Camilla taking about Julie’s body and how she feels about is postpartum really really got my in my pregnancy emotions. I love you both so much
Thank you all so much for being willing to share so openly and vulnerably. Often whats shown in social media about motherhood feels really terrifying or unachievable perfection. As a woman considering children it's been really hard to get an understanding of what being a mom is really like and if it's something I want for myself or not. I know it's different for everyone but I think hearing a bit of the gray area, not just the bad or the perfect really helps. So thank you so much for creating this content and sharing when you don't have to.
I am an egg donor in the US and I’ve done it 6 times now! I am so grateful to see your journey and how being a donor can be such a wonderful thing for couples/singles who just really want to have a family! It’s interesting hearing your IVF process since it’s very similar to what an egg donor goes through! I found it so fascinating that you’re sedated but awake for the retrieval! In the US they put us completely under and we don’t wake up till it’s 100% done.
@@jasy5288cool beans 👍 you sound like you’re a really nice person lol
If you don't mind me asking, what made you do it? Is the money an incentive? How much do you get paid? What makes you feel so strongly about it? I had a brief little thought about doing it at some point, but I never seriously considered it. Then I read about the process and it really hit me that you're putting yourself and your body through a lot of pain and effort. On top of that, money is not allowed to change hands in my country, so people who do it here do it solely out of the goodness of their heart. I'm truly not that good a person, I'd have to get paid six figures to do it, at least. Part of the reason I feel this way if probably that I don't actually want children, so I don't feel that strongly about other people's ability to have them. I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I was horrified when I first saw my vulva after giving birth, and NO ONE had mentioned that happening, it wasn't in any books I'd read so it's great your talking about it. I don't know if it is exactly the same as it was but it did definitely bounce back a lot more than the initial couple of months (not suggesting there's anything wrong with the change!)
Their relationship is so sweet and wholesome :) you can see how much they care for each other
camillas comment about female bodies really touched me. i got chronically sick in september 2022 and lost 10kg because of it. i do everything in my power but i can’t get my original weight back. i’m very insecure about my body now. my clothes don’t fit me anymore and i refused to buy new ones because „i want my old body back“. but sometimes you have to just accept it, because chronic illness is a huuuuge change in your life, so you just have to accept it sometimes. thank you camilla!
thank you so much for discussing the growing pains of your new roles in mother hood. Cam, I have always, as a lesbian who wants a family, felt that i would love to fit into a sort dad like role and be the parent that my dad was to me. that being said, I never considered that that may mean not being the one who carrie’s. It was scary for me to hear you speak of how hard that was, but so ridiculously important and impactful. I will thank you two for the rest of my life for sharing your queer parenting journey.
I think waiting a bit for baby number two is totally fine and normal. We had a pretty small age gap between our kids and it was so so hard postpartum. My husband had to return to work after not even a full week, and I still hold a lot resentment and feelings of being abandoned.
It's not only fine and normal, but it makes your life SO MUCH EASIER. Give your body a chance to heal. And gives yourself a chance to enjoy the child you have.
I loved hearing from Camilla how society raises young women to be birthing mothers and the challenges of stepping into motherhood that doesn’t have that (birthing) part. This just shows we need more examples of what two moms in love raising children looks like ❤ so excited to witness both of yalls journey in 2024 🥰🥰
Omg when Camilla was talking about how she sees life and your family when she looks at you I started crying! That is one of the sweetest things I’ve ever heard someone say 💕
This was a beautiful video thank you, Camilla’s words about finding her role as a mum and Julia’s words about going through a second puberty and finding the new person she is becoming, is such a positive, healthy and interesting way to explain and explore really complex times of a womans/ young parents life.
can we pleaseeee talk about how loving and cute cam looks at julie. it’s so precious❤️❤️🥺🥺
Thank you for mentioning the postpartum body stuff! I am 6 months out from giving birth and I still haven’t “bounced back.” I still feel uncomfortable in my body sometimes. I know I shouldn’t because it did something amazing, but that’s easier said than done! You’re doing amazing!
Unfortunately a lot of people say it takes 6 weeks to heal postpartum, that's just for tissue to heal, then comes the functional healing. Totally normal to not feel "back to normal" for 6 months or longer. If you want guidance on the postpartum journey, you might want to look into pelvic physical therapy, we guide people through pregnancy/postpartum and help them reach their goals
OMG yes!y baby is just about to turn one and it honestly I feel like I JUST now don't feel "postpartum" anymore, and I'm not even back to where I was prepregnancy. Everyone's bodies are different and it might not take this long for everyone, but I think we have to normalize how long it takes.
Yeah, it took 9 months to lose the pregnancy weight and now at 11 months my body is starting to feel normal. Still a bit a aches but it's getting there.
It's been 25 years. I have long given up the idea of ever "bouncing back" lol.
as someone who’s very much going to have to go through ivf, i love that you’re both so open and kind to eachother about the whole thing. I really look up to you both, and i’m so excited to know and learn through you guys!!!
First of all, you guys are great as new-time moms, and thank you for letting us be part of this process with you guys. I'm so happy Camilla is taking time to work on her app and I can't wait for you guys to start your IV after and again! However, take your time! honestly, i'm happy when you post anything at all but if you need ideas, daily routines would be really fun to watch!
Our bodies are supposed to change. We aren’t supposed to have the same body as 10 years ago, before pregnancy, when we were sick, etc.
You are so gorgeous ❤ Ty for helping me feel confident
What Julie mentioned about a second puberty is so true-they actually call the transition from maiden to mother matrescence. So important to honor these transitions! ❤️
Yep. Second adolescence is a thing even if you’re not partnered or a parent! I feel like I’m going through it right now. There’s even a book about it.
This was so refreshing to see! I have been a surrogate 4 times, and an egg donor a few times. Having been through 9 egg retrievals and 5 FETs I love that people are shining light on IVF and different routes to parenthood.
I’m in Canada and cannot get over the cost difference here vs there! My body goes through soooo many meds, but I was on anywhere between 6-9k just in meds per retrieval 😱 - so lucky your country helps cover those for you!!!
Cam is so in love, the way she supports Julie so much and loves her, is so beautiful to watch ❤
I can't wait until my daughter and her beautiful wife start their journey to have a family. You two are such an inspiration to other young couples. ❤❤
Camilla, you are truly a mum. Would you feel the same way if you adopted a baby? You are so much more, you nurture Sunny and provided the egg for Sunny. I got pregnant with iui as a single woman. It took 10 tries and $40,000. The best and hardest thing I have ever had done.
My niece and nephew were both possible through IUI ❤
You two are so incredibly sweet and kind and helpful for anyone dealing with big changes to their lives and bodies.
You make me feel sane when I’m beating myself up for not being the size I was before having my children. It’s a hard change but you learn to love your new body
Seeing this window into your journey and relationship, is so amazing. The way you show yourself as genuine and as honest as possible. I watch your videos and smile and cry with you. Thank you for showing that healthy and good relationships exist out there. Especially for lesbians. Thank you for the representation and for being yourselves 💙
I sooooooooooo needed to hear what Camilla said about putting your career first and how you feel like you should be ashamed for not being ashamed. Currently going through that exact scenario with my partner for the new year, there is so much pressure from family and everyone for us to take that next step and it does take a tole on you emotionally when your main goal is just not that for the time being! Thank you both so much for sharing and making us women feel less alone on all these important issues! Cannot wait for the launch!!
Clicked faster than you can say sabotage, love you two as a fellow gay lemme say you are queer role models showing people that it is okay to be queer. Your baby is so lucky 🫶
the taylor reference!!
A fellow swiftieeeeee!!!!
The reference!!!!!! 🫶🫶🫶 I love finding other queer swifties.
@@Em_theDino13 omg, we should start a queer swiftie club
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I love how passionate Camilla gets when talking about her app and everything she wants to achieve with it. I too got goosebumps when she started talking about wanting to help people feel good about their bodies. As someone who had a really fast metabolism when younger (still decently fast now) I was always teased for being too skinny and I never wanted to exercise or anything because I thought I would lose weight and get made fun of more. Now that I'm a bit older and my metabolism has slowed down a little bit, I want to start exercising to be strong and healthy and not cause of gaining or losing weight. I feel like I'm so out of shape though that exercising and routinely going to the gym or doing stuff is really hard to make a habit. I go too hard in one session and then am too exhausted to go for several more days. This year in college I've started walking at least 2-3 miles a day during the school week though just getting around campus and that's felt so good for myself, I feel stronger and more capable and basically this entire ramble is saying that I'm so excited to get Camilla's app when it releases and do a lot of the exercises and lifestyle stuff within it because I want to be strong and healthy for myself and my future!
Cam being so excited and passionate about the app is just everything! You know it’s going to be a good app ❤
I was pregnant at the same time and we had our sons likely within the same week as each other. Our journeys have been so different from one another, but I still feel so grateful to be able to share this experience with you guys. I have struggled for so many different reasons, both during and after pregnancy, and your joy and positivity, your honesty when things aren’t great, have helped me so much. Thank you for being you. You are a light in this world. Truly, finding you two online is one of the best things to come out of 2023 for me. Witnessing you become mothers has been such a blessing. ❤️
All I need is daily affirmations from Camilla. She makes me feel like I'm enough
Kind of going through a rough time mentally and in my relationship and identify, so I was in a weird way "dreading" watching this video because I was scared you guys's happiness would make me hyper-aware of my lack of it but honestly it was really refreshing and reassuring to hear you talk about all the aspects (positive and negative) that have changed for you. Thank you for keeping things real. I genuinely wish the three of you the very best
I just want to say thank you for this whole conversation, for every twist and turn and emotion running through it. You two are more than just Internet personalities, you’re speaking of some things I never hear anyone else talking about and they’re all topics I personally need to hear. To heal. To grow. To make room for other people’s struggle. I feel you’re friends to every one of your viewers. There so much care in everything you do, and I can’t thank you enough for that.
I feel like just sitting and chatting with you would be so wholesome. I could learn so much from you
the most unproblematic, wholesome and lovely queer couple there is! watching your talk made me feel better about being queer and my body changing
Dear Camilla, just like a father, you may not have physically gone through that pregnancy. Nontheless, you are a mom. You take care of Sunny and Julie, love them and that is what defines a parent! Love to you guys ❤
You two are such a breath of fresh air. It's beautiful seeing you both grow together and support one another in the beautiful next steps in your lives. I learned some things but mostly am here because you both truly show what love is supposed to be.
OMG. I can not express how BRILLIANT the content of this video is. There are no rules to being a parent. There isn't a handbook. You are doing it your way, and that is the right way. As long as Sunny is loved, fed, and safe, you are doing patenting right. It took a long time to become a parent, give yourself the grace and space you need to get to the new you. Blessings from Australia ❤
To Camilla,
What you said about having a hard time putting yourself in the role of a mom speaks so much to me, although I have given birth to my two daughters, it’s been so rough having those feelings. My second girl was a surprise and a really quick one at that, and I didn’t feel that ‘role’ right away either. After talking with psychologists and social workers and family members and mama friends, what you said made so much more sense for me. You both are wonderful humans and thank you for making this q and a ♥️
It's such a relieve to me to hear you talking about your post partum body and social media.. Because I've been struggling with this for 1.5 year. I still haven't lost more than half the weight, no matter what I do. And I saw your fitness videos and I thought to myself: once again someone who bounced back quickly. I'm so glad you're keeping it real and are so open about this, because it is really necessary in this world that we're honest about that with eachother. So thank you :)
I had a baby 12 weeks ago, and when Julie explained the feeling of going through like a second puberty and trying to find yourself again really really resonated with me and explained my feelings/thoughts in a way that I haven’t been able to as yet. You truly do go through an ‘identity crisis’, being so hopelessly in love with your new baby and joy being a mum but also feeling like you completely loose yourself and your autonomy while watching my partner getting to do the things he’s always done, was definitely my hardest transition.
WE WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YALL NO MATTER WHAT
I’m absolutely stoked to see a house tour once the renovation is done. Can’t wait to see the beautiful final result and hear all about why you chose to do what you did and how you’re liking everything.
Honestly going through my twenties with all this information and experience you are providing for young people who might want a baby some day is incredible. Your honesty and love is an inspiration and also the way that you support each other through it all is genuinely beautiful to see. I can’t wait to see what you do in the future and see Camilla’s app as well!!
You guys have given me more hope and more perspective change than you'll ever know. I never thought the beautiful lives you two live was ever possible and it has given me hope and determination to find it myself. Outside of love and family you've helped me find love and acceptance for myself that again I never knew was possible. Thank you so much and I look forward to growing and learning with you both. 🩷
This video is actually beautiful thanks for making it. As a lesbian mum who had a baby via IVF and an egg donor you've given me so many feelings❤
I love how honest they are about their journey. Lots of love❤️
It’s so comforting to listen to you both speak so vulnerably. The way you both navigate and communicate your experiences has shown me that this type of relationship can exist for me too. I really feel honoured to be able to hear your story and watch you both change and grow. Some very beautiful moments in this video with messages I will hold with me for a long time ! Thank you both
I love how open you all are with your life and how you’re coping with all the changes coming with it!!
I started to watch your vid after my Girlfriend ,who was also my best friend for years tragically died . She was only 34 years old . Your videos helped me laugh and begin to heal . I am so thankful for that ! So overjoyed that you have a family now !!! ❤❤❤
The question on your relationship post-birth is so interesting. I feel like as our son grows and changes my relationship with my partner goes through seasons as well. The cool thing is that as long as you are aware of it and still prioritize it (even though it can’t always be your TOP priority anymore) that there are always moments (both long and short) that remind you of why you fell in love in the first place and how strong and secure that love felt when you got married, had a baby, bought a house, etc. It’s just a more complex collage of love where before it felt more like a simple snapshot. It isn’t better or worse just different and still beautiful.
The last question…such beautiful honesty. I appreciate that and I’m past this part of life. I can’t imagine how others in your situation must appreciate you be honest in the difficulties that come with life choices. Kudos ladies xo
Really enjoying seeing you guys in long format and can't wait to see more! Thanks for sort of "demystifying" your new mum life and reflecting openly about identity, careers, goals and expectations, you managed in a way that feels so relatable somehow even though I'm not a mum or expecting to be one any time soon.
Happy New Year to your family, thanks for sharing your 2023 journey with us xx
I'm so glad that you mentioned things not looking the same "down there" because I was a young mum when I had my first and no one told me and I freaked out about it. So we'll done you for speaking about this normal part of body changes after birth x happy new year to you all 🎉
when Camilla said " I love you more now than before" is because you made a human in your body and that is amazing and she lives you like this more than she did before
Thank you so much for sharing your journey. I am 8 months pregnant and it has been so helpful for my mental health to watch you both be so honest about everything. I feel like there's too much pressure on women to romanticize being pregnant especially if they're talking about it online and it makes us feel more alone in the struggle so being able to watch your journey has made me feel more whole as a person and less scared. You are so strong and beautiful, thank you dearly!
I love how open and empathetic you talk about your ongoing journey of parenthood ❤ thank you so much for sharing your perspective in such an affable, honest way!
I love that you guys chose to share this. IVF is not something I’ve ever been through or plan to go through but I’ve always been curious about the process because it looks like it can be very taxing on your body. However, any time I’ve tried to research it, I’m just left confused. This is the first time it’s made sense and it’s nice to get an actual personal perspective on it.
Julie I want to add- I understand how difficult that post partum body dysmorphia is. I thought I would bounce back too. I wasn’t exactly fit and healthy before. Actually I was obese but I still thought my body would just ping back into shape or that at least the differences wouldn’t be noticeable because I was already large. It’s so hard to see your body and feel like it’s not doing what you want and then you feel guilty for being annoyed cause you’ve got that beautiful baby and so many people would kill to have that which in turn just makes you feel worse. It’s a horrible time in terms of body positivity but it does get better
Thank you for educating people and explaining! You two seem like the best parents ever, and I hope you and your baby are doing well ❤
Really good talk, candid and not superficial. This was a conversation where it felt like we were sitting on the couch next to you and just talking, looking in your eyes.. Wonderful insight, over here.
Thank you for being open. I will always root for you..
The more videos I watch the more I come to realize what fantastic women you both are and what great mothers you will be for Sunny in the years to come. I am so happy to hear that you are already planning your next baby, having my sons only 13 months apart was the best thing we could have done for them, they were buddies all of their lives. I have so many great memories of those years ( they are 53 and 54 now and each have 2 children of their own also close in age)! Thank you for sharing your lives with all of the subscribers that love and enjoy you girls so much! 😘
I can’t begin to express how much everything they both said touched my heart a a postpartum mom. I had my son 11 months ago and I still feel lost so when I see content like this I feel so seen❤️.
You two are so lovely and real. My baby is 16 and I still am changing and growing and questioning myself everyday. The hardest part of motherhood for me has always been not always knowing the right answer. As long as you continue to support each other and lift each other up and communicate, you got this!
I loved the way you two express yourselves, you sound so mature and centered, even through this new chapter of changes. I aspire to a future like this for myself ❤
Seriously, you two are the definition of true love, for all couples regardless of sexual orientation. I feel like there is so much to admire in the love you have for eachother. There is so much respect, patience, understanding, you can feel it through the screen. If I dont find this in life, then I dont want it any other way. You have set the bar high for us all, in the best way possible.
i cried a little with you during 16:10 🥲 your love and relationship is so beautiful and inspiring. i also appreciate the honesty in all your videos so much!! sending you lots of love❤️
Thank you Camilla for sharing that you have had to reimagine your role as a mother. I’ve had friends who became mothers through surrogacy or through adoption and I think they had similar struggles accepting a different reality of motherhood than the one they expected. As amazing as pregnancy and birth are, I hope you continue to realize that you fulfill a role in your son's life that no one else could and that you are very much his mother. I love the vulnerability and positivity you both share on the internet and you seem like you are both amazing parents. ❤
Wow, I so respect your relationship. This has to be the healthiest, most wholesome, empathetic and communicative relationship I've seen. And I'm not very good at being as open as you two are yet but I will slowly work on it and I hope that one day I will be more like you. Thank you very much for sharing all the parts that you don't usually hear when it comes to relationships and having children.
I love how you guys talk with so many metaphors and images, its really refreshing and creative. I really enjoyed this video, you guys are so honest and authentic and its wonderful to see:)