It wouldn't have went on for very long. Torres would hit Seven and hurt her hand and Seven would just do a cute head tilt staring at her. Then Torres would realize the huge mistake she made and hide behind Tom. Remember in Episode - Day of Honor where she verbally attacked Seven and basically demanded Seven apologize for being assimilated and forced to assimilate others, something we learn later really hurt Seven, but Torres went on and on and on until Seven displayed more and more human like qualities. She was so horrible to her that I wanted Seven to clobber her but thankfully Seven didn't start getting angry about things until late in the show when Torres stopped being such a jerk.
Gotta love how all of Kim’s efforts and his relationship with Seven counted for nothing in the end Lmao. The man got cucked by Tuvok with a Hologram. Definitely a character who was hated by the writers who created him
@@Lava91point0 The writers loved Paris, though. Inconsistent and insubordinate, a loose canon in many episodes, a hero in many episodes, demoted and (re)promoted several times. While poor Harry Kim just kept plodding along, being reliable and loyal and capable, getting no respect, alternating between sidekick and damsel-in-distress.
@@pwnmeisterage I kinda liked Paris, but there was definitely favoritism going on, while Kim's character seemed to be just thrown around 90% of the time. Chakotay was another one, I think even Robert Beltram said he often felt like he was sleepwalking through the script.
Well, you gotta remember she still thinks like a Borg. Her humanity is still barely activated at this point. Also, remember this is a Memetic Demon Planet copy of Seven of Nine. They went a different path than Voyager, different experiences. But at this point, both Seven's, She constantly interrupts, she speaks in monotone and very direct. If you look at dating from a Borg perspective it would mean dating everyone until she found the match that would resemble, perfection. Remember at first she was ready to have sex with Harry when she noticed that he found her attractive. As she grew she discounted the idea of dating Harry because of his personal quirks that confused her even more. She worried about Monogamy because that would also limit her search for perfection.
And it's kind of funny about how she wouldn't date Harry Kim. He was the first one on Voyager that got her. He tried to get to know Seven, understand her. Kept her safe when he stopped her from touching an open plasma conduit. When she cut herself and felt insecure about being essentially Mortal again, he comforted her. When Tom made jokes Harry could see Seven's pain and defended her. It didn't matter he was attracted to her. He was one of the biggest reason's Seven transitioned to Voyager as well as she did. Torres hated her and treated her like garbage most the time, Paris acted like she was okay with him but took a long time to realize his jokes were hurting her.
@@JaybayJay that's an interesting way to look at it, with Seven's search for perfection. It could definitely be that. The way I always saw it though is that she doesn't see the point in monogamy because she sees people from a scientist's perspective I guess you could say? Just seeing people as animals. And how usually animals don't stay with a partner but simply get together to procreate and then the male finds other females to mate with while the female raises their offspring (or that's the general idea anyway, of course it varies across the earth and especially so across the universe). She doesn't understand what love is at this point so she can't see it through an emotional perspective. I think that's also why she never considered relationships with other women, because that really requires the emotional side rather than the practical side of having children, until much later which I assume happened after Voyager returned to Earth
@@erinocelotl3578 Basically, Seven was still a 6 year old little girl when she joined Voyager. This was evident when she got scared she reverted to her last moments of being human saying, "Pappa? Pappa?" She never grew independently as a borg. I'm sure she learned about mathematics, and science as a borg, assimilation and omega that she was fascinated by, but really.. She was big kid who never got to experience her first crush.. Her first dance. Her sweet sixteen. She was a little girl in a woman's body with womanly feelings she didn't understand. When her sphere crashed she wasn't confident, she was that scared lil girl and assimilated the trio because she was terrified of being alone.
@@JaybayJay well she did, in a way, but only in Unimatrix 0 which was basically irrelevant as for the majority of her screentime she didn't even remember that it existed, but yeah :(
Agreed. If human monogamy was natural for us, it would be effortless, as it is with other creatures which remain monogamous for life. Alas, it is not effortless, the entire idea needing to be either rethought or expunged from humanity entirely.
"We should expunge monogamy from Humanity entirely" And how do you propose that? Force everyone to have sex with each other? There's a word for that...
I LOVE ME some 7 of 9, boy!
Torres' hair always looked like a crazy, jacked-up wig.
Am i the only who wishes we got see the fight in the mess hall with these two? Lmao😂😂
I'd rather see them kiss.
It wouldn't have went on for very long. Torres would hit Seven and hurt her hand and Seven would just do a cute head tilt staring at her. Then Torres would realize the huge mistake she made and hide behind Tom. Remember in Episode - Day of Honor where she verbally attacked Seven and basically demanded Seven apologize for being assimilated and forced to assimilate others, something we learn later really hurt Seven, but Torres went on and on and on until Seven displayed more and more human like qualities. She was so horrible to her that I wanted Seven to clobber her but thankfully Seven didn't start getting angry about things until late in the show when Torres stopped being such a jerk.
Seven: Disagrees with marriage
Also Seven: Will later marry Chakotay
Seven disrobed in front of Chakotay and said, "resistance is futile."
Gotta love how all of Kim’s efforts and his relationship with Seven counted for nothing in the end Lmao. The man got cucked by Tuvok with a Hologram. Definitely a character who was hated by the writers who created him
@@Lava91point0 The writers loved Paris, though. Inconsistent and insubordinate, a loose canon in many episodes, a hero in many episodes, demoted and (re)promoted several times. While poor Harry Kim just kept plodding along, being reliable and loyal and capable, getting no respect, alternating between sidekick and damsel-in-distress.
@@pwnmeisterage I kinda liked Paris, but there was definitely favoritism going on, while Kim's character seemed to be just thrown around 90% of the time. Chakotay was another one, I think even Robert Beltram said he often felt like he was sleepwalking through the script.
How the hell they put two people side by side in a Jeffres tube?
It really sounds like seven is into polygamy XD
Well, you gotta remember she still thinks like a Borg. Her humanity is still barely activated at this point. Also, remember this is a Memetic Demon Planet copy of Seven of Nine. They went a different path than Voyager, different experiences. But at this point, both Seven's, She constantly interrupts, she speaks in monotone and very direct. If you look at dating from a Borg perspective it would mean dating everyone until she found the match that would resemble, perfection. Remember at first she was ready to have sex with Harry when she noticed that he found her attractive. As she grew she discounted the idea of dating Harry because of his personal quirks that confused her even more. She worried about Monogamy because that would also limit her search for perfection.
And it's kind of funny about how she wouldn't date Harry Kim. He was the first one on Voyager that got her. He tried to get to know Seven, understand her. Kept her safe when he stopped her from touching an open plasma conduit. When she cut herself and felt insecure about being essentially Mortal again, he comforted her. When Tom made jokes Harry could see Seven's pain and defended her. It didn't matter he was attracted to her. He was one of the biggest reason's Seven transitioned to Voyager as well as she did. Torres hated her and treated her like garbage most the time, Paris acted like she was okay with him but took a long time to realize his jokes were hurting her.
@@JaybayJay that's an interesting way to look at it, with Seven's search for perfection. It could definitely be that. The way I always saw it though is that she doesn't see the point in monogamy because she sees people from a scientist's perspective I guess you could say? Just seeing people as animals. And how usually animals don't stay with a partner but simply get together to procreate and then the male finds other females to mate with while the female raises their offspring (or that's the general idea anyway, of course it varies across the earth and especially so across the universe). She doesn't understand what love is at this point so she can't see it through an emotional perspective. I think that's also why she never considered relationships with other women, because that really requires the emotional side rather than the practical side of having children, until much later which I assume happened after Voyager returned to Earth
@@erinocelotl3578 Basically, Seven was still a 6 year old little girl when she joined Voyager. This was evident when she got scared she reverted to her last moments of being human saying, "Pappa? Pappa?" She never grew independently as a borg. I'm sure she learned about mathematics, and science as a borg, assimilation and omega that she was fascinated by, but really.. She was big kid who never got to experience her first crush.. Her first dance. Her sweet sixteen. She was a little girl in a woman's body with womanly feelings she didn't understand. When her sphere crashed she wasn't confident, she was that scared lil girl and assimilated the trio because she was terrified of being alone.
@@JaybayJay well she did, in a way, but only in Unimatrix 0 which was basically irrelevant as for the majority of her screentime she didn't even remember that it existed, but yeah :(
I agree with Seven :)
Why are their voices so deep in this clip?
Wow seven was for the streets
i mean...i get why 7 was made but like...heels? really? doesn't seem like a Borg thing to do.
Seven's a Playa. She's looked down, she knows what she's bringing to the game.
Sad episode.
imo. The best partner for both Seven and B'elanna was each other but they both got stuck with lames bc of heteronormativity.
I agree with Seven Of Nine 100% 0:28
What episode is this clip from?
Course: Oblivion
0:29 so 7 is interested in romantic intersections with more people?
I agree with her
so 7 is Polyamourous then.....
¡LOS 2 MEJORES CULOS DE STRAR TREK, DESPUES DE UHURA.!
Except those really aren't Seven and B'Elanna. (Oops, spoiler.)
😳😳😳😳
That stipulation began when the majority of Europe couldn't get child support from Charlemagne.
That guy was quite the ho bag.
jeffries tube @00:21
Pause at 0:21
You may thank me later.
If you ever wondered if Star Trek is "sex positive"... here is your answer.
Agreed. If human monogamy was natural for us, it would be effortless, as it is with other creatures which remain monogamous for life. Alas, it is not effortless, the entire idea needing to be either rethought or expunged from humanity entirely.
"We should expunge monogamy from Humanity entirely" And how do you propose that? Force everyone to have sex with each other?
There's a word for that...
If you don't approve of marriage then don't get married, lol.