While I love the 5-series, this comment isn't about it. I wanted to thank you guys for making available the previous episodes of "Motorweek'. I am 43 and have been a viewer for many years. Brings back so many good memories. Thank you for allowing me to relive some of my preteen and teen years.
This M5 looks so subtle compared to todays M-cars, which are almost brash by comparison. I miss this era of clean, sleek understated styling from BMW. Some of their more recent offerings have been truly ugly.
+soundseeker63 Yeah they've gone backwards both design wise and driver wise with all the added weight and electronics. The E34 is together with the E28 my two favourite M5s.
Not sure why you mentioned the 3-Series, but the E36 was not "ugly", it was quite sharp. And was a more pure BMW than any 3 that came after, including the E46.
When I was growing up in the 80's and 90's I remember my mom use to say that BMW drivers were yuppies. In national lampoons Christmas vacation the neighbors were a perfect example of yuppies. The scene when they were crying after they found their stereo broken which I am pretty sure was a Bose (another yuppie telltale sign) defined a yuppie which was someone that their self worth was valued in the expensive and overpriced crap they sell. I still think someone buying a new BMW is a yuppie since you are getting ripped off but buying a used BMW after the yuppie has lost over half the cars resell value the moment they drove it off the lot can get you a lot of car for the money. Another term they like to say on this show which I am pretty sure is now considered racist is oriental which they say just about every time they reviewed a Japanese car.
+Pepe Gutermann the only cost-effective way to drive one is to work on it yourself. OEM Lemforder control arms $100-$150 each. And if there's an automatic transmission in your M5, there is something really wrong! It's hard to find parts for the Getrag 280 5speed, but you can get an expertly rebuilt and adapted Getrag 265 from Metric Motors for $5k. Oem Clutch parts are cheap, but a new dual-mass flywheel is over a grand - so get an aftermarket lightweight one for maybe $400.
60-0 in 106ft, for a 3800lb car? Wow, that is fairly impressive even for today, and just think if it had a modern tire compound. This sort of tells me braking technology has been lagging.
It has a lot less to do with the brakes themselves and far more with the limitations of the human body. A more effective brake might not cause internal bleeding but for in extreme circumstances, but we're still talking about 1 g of acceleration or more pushing against something as narrow as a seatbelt, which might cause severe discomfort even in non-emergency situations. If a car gains a reputation for doing this, no one will buy it. Even if this weren't enough to turn away buyers, there's going to be a point at which the harm done by something like this exceeds any potential benefits. Until seatbelts are replaced by something better, this will be the case.
@@japanwatchconnection japan sedans are designed and built by american people, cars made in japan are still junks, take a look at subaru or mitsubishi how bad these cars were and are... european ones are made in mexico or brazil and doesnt last 10 years, btw the dodge spirit rt was faster than the m5, the gm 3800 engine will outlast anything made in europe and probably japan since the toyota gr v6 engines are totaly american, now cadillac has a 670hp fined tuned saloon sedan that japaneeses pos sports car cannot even touch, i think the japaneese people are way worst than american people at making cars, even the overpriced nsx cannot even compete with the base corvette for 3 times the price, being a japaneese fanboy is a shame nowadays, even hyundai makes better cars
BMWs were and always have been high dollar ,pieces of crap that you'll get lucky to get 50,000 miles out of before you're hit with a repair bill that will break you...there is yet to be a bmw motor as dependable ,easy to maintain, and inexpensive to own as a small block Chevy .
@@rickmassey1272Nah, more expensive, yes, but the old ones were solid and not hard to work on. Back when the engineers were top dog, not the accountants.
I bought a BMW 4-series and became part of the BMW a-hole club. One thing I will say about the stereotype that BMW drivers drive like a-holes is that BMW's, at least the one I bought, handle so incredibly precisely that you really do have pinpoint control of the car - as in you know exactly where the car is and you have 100% confidence in what you're doing. So when you see people like doing things in traffic that make you scared, just relax and realize we got it, we're able to do things that you in your POS can't do, so just give us a tip of the hat and chill out.
Last Fall I picked up an E34 M5 (same red as the video). Mine has the "throwing Star" Wheels but what a great car! Solid as a rock at speeds that will eventually get me in trouble.....
all that making fun of yuppies all while a guy in a tucked in striped shirt and cargo pants sends off the m5. they sound like the epitome of “yuppies” lol.
I don’t understand the complaints about the heater controls tbh. I’ve got an E34 (a lower spec than an M5, but it has the same layout as the car shown), and I’ve not come across a better set up
They aren't white walls, it's just how the rim look. Those are M-systen 1 split wheel. That flat outer disk with the fins is a separate piece that sits on the hub of the wheel like a hubcap sorta. They were designed to provide aircooling to the brakes with those fins. In 92 they were replaced by a different design, the M-system 2, which are also commonly called Throwing Stars. This is what they look like when disassembled motoringconbrio.com/2009/12/08/function-over-form-bmw-m-system-turbine-wheels/
+Scott Mitchell ... The theory that the BMW emblem is meant to resemble an airplane propeller is a big misconception... Although it does look like it however it's just a myth
Back when BMW built high quality and sharp vehicles. Now they just blend is as another leased vehicle. Just throw away vehicles and they are everywhere.
he was talking about the 535i. Surely the S38 is another world compared to the M30, but still, calling it "sterilized" ... i'm pretty sure people were having WAY too much fun with the M30.
This M5 model is like that ugly sibling that no one liked until the E39 M5 came in, that being the good looking brother that everyone wants to be around
Old bmw m5s are way more better looking and cooler than the new ones because they were more sleeker,simple looking and cleaner than today's abnormal egg shells
Really could make this comment on any one of the Retro review videos, but why the obsession with a damn voltmeter gauge in vehicles lol. They always make Mention when a car doesn’t have oil pressure or voltage read outs on the dash; I get the relevant nature of a way to monitor oil pressure, but in a daily driver who cares how much voltage your generator is putting out? It’s either charging or it’s not, which a dummy light is sufficient to tell you. Your average street car isn’t going to perform any different if it’s making 12.8 or 13.5V. It really doesn’t matter anywhere near what say a fuel gauge or speedo, oil pressure gauge etc matters. If the alternator is working you’re good to go. I never understood the need for a voltmeter on say a Ford Taurus or Mazda Miata or any regular vehicle like that. Power matters in my grudge car because it’s a 16v system with no capability to recharge itself. But on my daily driver, I could care less what the generator is putting out.
I love at the quarter mile strip behind is a BMW killer Corvette Half the price, one third better performance, much better reliability ! Every Beemer I ever owned has electrical issues-even in the year 2018 !
this car is one of the best examples of " standing the test of time"! absolutely beautiful
..lol...beauty won't get you to work every day,but it will break the bank. BMW has never built a car as reliable as the cheapest GM product.
While I love the 5-series, this comment isn't about it. I wanted to thank you guys for making available the previous episodes of "Motorweek'. I am 43 and have been a viewer for many years. Brings back so many good memories. Thank you for allowing me to relive some of my preteen and teen years.
Truly the Ultimate Driving Machine. No 'piped in' sound needed or required here...
it still sounds like any v6
@@retrocompaq5212 Except it's an inline six
Even in '15 still my fave body style
Austin Bables
Tru Dat!
absolutely beautiful, these retro review vids are some of the best on youtube, to bad so few of them to watch
Define 'few'?
This M5 looks so subtle compared to todays M-cars, which are almost brash by comparison.
I miss this era of clean, sleek understated styling from BMW. Some of their more recent offerings have been truly ugly.
+soundseeker63 Yeah they've gone backwards both design wise and driver wise with all the added weight and electronics. The E34 is together with the E28 my two favourite M5s.
E36 is ugly
E46 a work of art
E92 beautiful
F82 ugly
Not sure why you mentioned the 3-Series, but the E36 was not "ugly", it was quite sharp. And was a more pure BMW than any 3 that came after, including the E46.
You mean when BMW built class and restrained good taste instead of low class nightclub crawlers?
+Mista Butterworth
What? Are you serious? Thing was ugly as fuck. Yes it was reliable but thing was so ugly and it didn't look any different than 328.
Last one hand made! Respect!
I worked in a lab for a while, and our “lab mom” lady had a 1988 M5. She wore scrubs in the lab, but never forgot her five figure Cartier watch.
Lol at how many times the word 'Yuppie' was spoken. Ahhhhh the 90's......
When I was growing up in the 80's and 90's I remember my mom use to say that BMW drivers were yuppies. In national lampoons Christmas vacation the neighbors were a perfect example of yuppies. The scene when they were crying after they found their stereo broken which I am pretty sure was a Bose (another yuppie telltale sign) defined a yuppie which was someone that their self worth was valued in the expensive and overpriced crap they sell. I still think someone buying a new BMW is a yuppie since you are getting ripped off but buying a used BMW after the yuppie has lost over half the cars resell value the moment they drove it off the lot can get you a lot of car for the money.
Another term they like to say on this show which I am pretty sure is now considered racist is oriental which they say just about every time they reviewed a Japanese car.
+Pepe Gutermann the only cost-effective way to drive one is to work on it yourself. OEM Lemforder control arms $100-$150 each. And if there's an automatic transmission in your M5, there is something really wrong! It's hard to find parts for the Getrag 280 5speed, but you can get an expertly rebuilt and adapted Getrag 265 from Metric Motors for $5k. Oem Clutch parts are cheap, but a new dual-mass flywheel is over a grand - so get an aftermarket lightweight one for maybe $400.
There is absolutely nothing racist nor improper about the terms yuppie, or oriental. Fuck modern day society and it's egg shell shenanigans.
Yuppie is a 80s word you stupid millennial.
60-0 in 106ft, for a 3800lb car? Wow, that is fairly impressive even for today, and just think if it had a modern tire compound. This sort of tells me braking technology has been lagging.
It has a lot less to do with the brakes themselves and far more with the limitations of the human body. A more effective brake might not cause internal bleeding but for in extreme circumstances, but we're still talking about 1 g of acceleration or more pushing against something as narrow as a seatbelt, which might cause severe discomfort even in non-emergency situations. If a car gains a reputation for doing this, no one will buy it. Even if this weren't enough to turn away buyers, there's going to be a point at which the harm done by something like this exceeds any potential benefits. Until seatbelts are replaced by something better, this will be the case.
@@greghmn LOL! We are not anywhere close to your brain squeezing out your nose because we stopped too fast. You're a very silly person.
@@greghmn that’s the weirdest take I’ve ever heard on this
Keep up the retro reviews!!
I just found these retro reviews. Very cool to see these again.
That 60-0 braking distance is phenomenal!!
The Maafia Garage Not really. It was on par with other sports and lux sedans of its era.
They keep taking away points for the climate controls, but they couldn't be easier to use. I loved the utilitarian layout of my 89 5 series dash.
Best system I’ve ever used
I would 100% have this one over a new M5.
Had a good friend in the BMWCCA that owned one. Taking this out on the road right after getting out of my 1985 318i was a revelation!
Jesus I used to drool over this car and even today love those plain rims :)
I had my red e34 525i parked on my lawn the same way.. so simple and effective
Amazing that they can reliably draw that kind of power from a straight 6 back then...
Back in the days when Bimmers were worth keeping past the warranty period.
everytime you floor it you need to rework the valves
Back when BMW made actually great drivers cars.
BMW at this time was light years ahead if American manufacturers.
Caprifreak to be fair, everyone was at that time...
@@japanwatchconnection japan sedans are designed and built by american people, cars made in japan are still junks, take a look at subaru or mitsubishi how bad these cars were and are... european ones are made in mexico or brazil and doesnt last 10 years, btw the dodge spirit rt was faster than the m5, the gm 3800 engine will outlast anything made in europe and probably japan since the toyota gr v6 engines are totaly american, now cadillac has a 670hp fined tuned saloon sedan that japaneeses pos sports car cannot even touch, i think the japaneese people are way worst than american people at making cars, even the overpriced nsx cannot even compete with the base corvette for 3 times the price, being a japaneese fanboy is a shame nowadays, even hyundai makes better cars
BMWs were and always have been high dollar ,pieces of crap that you'll get lucky to get 50,000 miles out of before you're hit with a repair bill that will break you...there is yet to be a bmw motor as dependable ,easy to maintain, and inexpensive to own as a small block Chevy .
@@rickmassey1272Nah, more expensive, yes, but the old ones were solid and not hard to work on.
Back when the engineers were top dog, not the accountants.
This 5 series will always be classy! 👌
They will double in price again! 😀👍
The birth of a legend!!!!!
landyachtfan79 actualy no
E28 was the first m5. 10 years before this e34.
back when people who walked around with cups of coffee were also called yuppies
People who walked around with cups of coffee were called assholes.
I've got to buy one of these some day.
***** me too
jump oricakle same man
good luck with finding one, the E34 M5 is rare, and good ones are very hard to find, the current owners dont let them go easily :)
You ask for a manual in the BMW dealer and the next thing that you receive is a slap in the face.
As an owner of an E28 M5 I can appreciate the subtle design of the E34
Always hated those wheels, they made the car look like it had white walls.
Cowboytwinkie Used to hate them, now I quite like the look because of the connotations with the e34.
Weird, I had to rewatch the video to make sure it didn't have white walls. Completely agree.
youd be surprised how much those wheels are sought after in the e34 community
Wow i really thought they were whitewalls till i saw this, had to go back n check
@@detonater1348 LOL, I remember first time i saw one on the street, i was like what the hell, whitewalls, are you kidding!
Nice car beautifull motor sound¡!!!!!!!
I bought a BMW 4-series and became part of the BMW a-hole club. One thing I will say about the stereotype that BMW drivers drive like a-holes is that BMW's, at least the one I bought, handle so incredibly precisely that you really do have pinpoint control of the car - as in you know exactly where the car is and you have 100% confidence in what you're doing. So when you see people like doing things in traffic that make you scared, just relax and realize we got it, we're able to do things that you in your POS can't do, so just give us a tip of the hat and chill out.
What an engine.
Things John hates
1. No oil pressure gauge
2. No battery voltage indicator
3. Yuppies
Great car did you guys test the original 88 M5?
As a fan of the e39 e34 is an awesome car of the 90s
Beautiful M.
E34s are lovely all around cars.
BMW ART
The best sport sedan in the world. That’s an impressive title.
BMW E34 M5 ( 3.8 )
Next please.. Great work :D
Last Fall I picked up an E34 M5 (same red as the video). Mine has the "throwing Star" Wheels but what a great car! Solid as a rock at speeds that will eventually get me in trouble.....
I should add my crazy friend GAVE it to me. Thanks again B!
Those are the same wheels minus the turbo fans. Throwing stars are underneath those fans.
anyone else notice that smoke on the 0-60 run
David Mollard Yeah, there goes your 11 mpg as stated. Love this generation, I would still get one. Heck, I would get two.
rich fuel mixture
Good gravy this car looks awesome
When I look at this, I cannot help but think to myself: Chris Bangle, what have you done??
from Ronin to oom 500 giorgi tevzadze this car is a Legend
Here's a MotorWeek Retro Review of the BMW M5 from 1990.
You had me at Yuppie and Posers...lol.. Love it!!
John Davis just roasting yuppies here. I love it.
all that making fun of yuppies all while a guy in a tucked in striped shirt and cargo pants sends off the m5. they sound like the epitome of “yuppies” lol.
I don’t understand the complaints about the heater controls tbh. I’ve got an E34 (a lower spec than an M5, but it has the same layout as the car shown), and I’ve not come across a better set up
This is my favorite body style and i own grand marquis gs
Woah the commentary is brutal. No yuppies separate them from real enthusiasts!
There are many great wheel options which would make this car much more appealing and set it apart from its lesser siblings.
One of my dream cars!
I want one just for the novelty factor.
I wish I could see the VIN, because mine looks exactly like this one...but with 230,000 more miles:)
❤️
I want one!
White wall tires from the factory on an M5. Things have changed in 27 years.
They aren't white walls, it's just how the rim look. Those are M-systen 1 split wheel. That flat outer disk with the fins is a separate piece that sits on the hub of the wheel like a hubcap sorta. They were designed to provide aircooling to the brakes with those fins. In 92 they were replaced by a different design, the M-system 2, which are also commonly called Throwing Stars. This is what they look like when disassembled
motoringconbrio.com/2009/12/08/function-over-form-bmw-m-system-turbine-wheels/
How gorgeous
A real car
Manual
No nannies
Fabulous
White walls fits it nice!
ChevyBM they aren’t white walls, they just look like them. And yes, they are gorgeous.
Actually the BMW logo pays homage to the Bavarian flag before anything else.
daison96 It's both, but the prop is white and the blue sky is blue. Get it?
+Scott Mitchell ... The theory that the BMW emblem is meant to resemble an airplane propeller is a big misconception... Although it does look like it however it's just a myth
The BMW badge represents the Bavarian flag.
The bmw badge isn't a propeller lol it's in reference to the Bavarian flag, where they're based : )
Its a propeller.
Back when BMW built high quality and sharp vehicles. Now they just blend is as another leased vehicle. Just throw away vehicles and they are everywhere.
Great channel, like it, many thanks !
Grtz.Jan
"spinning propellor symbol??" it is just part of the Bavarian Flag....
You are correct.
@@sdbfloorman203 It is both, roundel spinning propeller with flag colors.
Pretty fast car for it's time
Nostalgic M5
Beautiful...i love bmw car
The BMW M5 was in a Class of its own in 1990, until 92 with Audi S4 & Mercedes 500e
Audi S4 can't drift and the 500E is a 4 speed auto ... so the M5 is still the only true driver option
I love the E34.
Is this the meanest factory application of whitewall tires in automotive history?
944 convertible in the back ground
I love cars, BMW M5.
Isn't that a standard steering wheel?
"sterilized BMW 6" = yeah right, compare the M30B35 to your N20B20 now ...
M RO this has an s38 and an n20 isnt a 6?
he was talking about the 535i. Surely the S38 is another world compared to the M30, but still, calling it "sterilized" ... i'm pretty sure people were having WAY too much fun with the M30.
To think the D2 Audi S8 was still 6 years away. No competitor in this segment. BMW was so ahead of the times back then. It all went downhill in 2005.
The colors are not from a spinning propeller...blue and white are the Bavarian colors.
Great looking car. I know fuel economy isn't what this car is about, but for a 3.5L I6, that's shockingly bad fuel mileage.
6 independent throttle bodies, 4 valves per, and tuned exhaust, this thing breathes real easy, and sucks much fuel in the process.
Whoa whoa whoa.... I have a 535is and have owned MANY Bimmers... the E34 535i was no poseur car~!!!!
@japanwatchconnection You mean poseur compared to an E28 M5, sure. I hear what you are saying though. I'm 57 I was there too LOL
* my dream car *
Please post retro e34 v8!!!!! Please!!!! ;)
Good car
BMW emblem isn’t a spinning propeller, it’s the Bavarian state flag…
Nothing compares to a real BMW.
This M5 model is like that ugly sibling that no one liked until the E39 M5 came in, that being the good looking brother that everyone wants to be around
cd changer in the back was a terrible idea
310 hp and 15 second 1/4 mile...
It's a straight 6 with itd power delivered at mid to top end...
that time was bs. i recall this car was a high 13 sec car all day
Albert Kelly mandela effect ? Lol
How'd you guys let that 'spinning propeller' line get through? You know thats wrong. The BMW logo is the Bavarian flag. Come on.
The BMW logo is a propeller. The blue part is the sky. As you know maybe BMW started with building airplane engines.
+Andreas Bauer No its not, look it up, thats a myth that stems from a 1929 ad.
Andreas Bauer What that guy said. Bavarian flag. Bayerische Motoren Werke AKA Bavarian Motor Works AKA BMW.
+snappy452 Yes, thank you, you guy's are right, I looked it up already.
How is it possible for there to be two versions of the same Retro Review that are only four years apart? That makes no sense to me.
Old bmw m5s are way more better looking and cooler than the new ones because they were more sleeker,simple looking and cleaner than today's abnormal egg shells
It saddens me to see just how beautiful these old BMW's are, and just how absolutely hideous the new ones are with that godawful pig snout front-end
only 2800 miles on the clock and its getting thrashed to bits
Woah that fuel economy.
LOL LOL LOL! 6.5 sec 0-60 inna M5? well, 2day we've got SMGs, DCTs, TTs, xDrive, MMI Beemers. ahhhh, TECHNOLOGY is amazing
more like 5.9 motor trend is easy on clutches
Twin turbos have been around for long ass time bud, same with awd…
Really could make this comment on any one of the Retro review videos, but why the obsession with a damn voltmeter gauge in vehicles lol. They always make
Mention when a car doesn’t have oil pressure or voltage read outs on the dash; I get the relevant nature of a way to monitor oil pressure, but in a daily driver who cares how much voltage your generator is putting out? It’s either charging or it’s not, which a dummy light is sufficient to tell you. Your average street car isn’t going to perform any different if it’s making 12.8 or 13.5V. It really doesn’t matter anywhere near what say a fuel gauge or speedo, oil pressure gauge etc matters. If the alternator is working you’re good to go. I never understood the need for a voltmeter on say a Ford Taurus or Mazda Miata or any regular vehicle like that. Power matters in my grudge car because it’s a 16v system with no capability to recharge itself. But on my daily driver, I could care less what the generator is putting out.
Had a 95' 525i...Such a good car.......& a 81' 318.....Girls made fun of it :o(
why ? e21 ?
We're they assuming-small car=small cock?-nah just kidding and quite jealous of you to be honest!
I love at the quarter mile strip behind is a BMW killer Corvette Half the price, one third better performance, much better reliability ! Every Beemer I ever owned has electrical issues-even in the year 2018 !
Miss me with the better performance
Lots of ripping on yuppies 😂.
Beautiful car but I was never a fan of those alloys...