1990 BMW 850i | Retro Review

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  • @andreasausmuc
    @andreasausmuc Рік тому +158

    23 years later it's still a breathtaking beauty. I'm not sure if current mega-grilled cars will age as well as this 850.....

    • @tall_dude1233
      @tall_dude1233 Рік тому +49

      33 years.... trust me... I still think of the 90s as 20 years ago.

    • @andreasausmuc
      @andreasausmuc Рік тому +17

      @@tall_dude1233
      Ahahahahahahahahahahaha - same here. Obviously!

    • @_leopold_butters_stotch
      @_leopold_butters_stotch Рік тому +9

      33 years holms

    • @coreydillard2469
      @coreydillard2469 Рік тому +1

      ​@@tall_dude123333 years ago in 2023

    • @Jeymez
      @Jeymez 3 місяці тому

      i kinda disagree about this car, i thought it looked odd back then,
      it looks worse in videos and pictures.
      for a V12 it should've had over 400 hp, but it only puts 295, 323.
      a Vette would smoke this thing, and that was cheaper.
      i usually like 90's BMW's, but not this one.

  • @kz1000ps
    @kz1000ps Рік тому +170

    It's almost vulgar how beautiful and stunning and lustfully gorgeous this thing still is. Still on the bucket list!

    • @ftr911drvr
      @ftr911drvr Рік тому +7

      Same here definitely a beautiful car perfect proportions

    • @oreally8605
      @oreally8605 Рік тому +6

      And I believe it had quality back then too.

    • @piotrmalewski8178
      @piotrmalewski8178 Рік тому +4

      Definitely one of the cars they could recreate with exact same look and it would sell like freshly baked buns.

    • @carlasghost656
      @carlasghost656 Рік тому +2

      At the time it was new it's one of the few cars I ever aspired to own. Unfortunately I couldn't even pretend to afford one at that time either.

    • @poomped53
      @poomped53 Рік тому +6

      Particularly compared to the actual vulgarity of modern BMWs

  • @stukoviak
    @stukoviak Рік тому +92

    @6:40 Can we all take a moment to appreciate those subtle front grilles?

    • @netowork3d
      @netowork3d Рік тому +5

      I think there was an editing error at the time of not showing the headlight open...

    • @ftr911drvr
      @ftr911drvr Рік тому

      Let it go smh

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Рік тому +2

      @@netowork3dI think they realized how much better it looked with them down compared to up

  • @jeremiahgaskins9127
    @jeremiahgaskins9127 Рік тому +52

    I loved this cars styling. Even looks great today!

    • @fernandorocha901
      @fernandorocha901 Рік тому +3

      Very nice and beautiful the BMW 850i, best styling and fantastic performance

  • @82_KID
    @82_KID Рік тому +54

    This is one of my favorite cars, to be honest. I'd love to have an all black V12.. this car looks good even standing still.

  • @ke228
    @ke228 Рік тому +30

    I will never get tired of just looking at the E31. A true machine.

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum Рік тому +25

    I've said it before and I'll continue to say it when relevant, so many beautiful cars came out in the early '90s. The 850i is no exception. You know design is good when people still drool over it 33 years later.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 Рік тому

      They had the perfect lack of safety requirements vs chassis design technology at the time

  • @wackaircaftmechanic2312
    @wackaircaftmechanic2312 Рік тому +15

    I’m so glad that MotorWeek still reupload their old videos..

  • @mcwolf4255
    @mcwolf4255 Рік тому +18

    The BMW 850Csi and the Lexus SC400 of the late 90s era were Beautifully made and built

    • @jameswillard1
      @jameswillard1 Рік тому +1

      I agree, I think the SC400 was just as good looking if not better even…..both stunning designs

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 Рік тому +14

    10000x better looking than current hideous bmws

  • @landyachtfan79
    @landyachtfan79 Рік тому +10

    ANOTHER one of the most beautiful cars ever built, the BMW 8-Series coupe. George Carlin had one that he bought new, & kept until his passing in 2008. You probably wouldn't know it from the way he spoke of his cars in his stand-up, but he apparently was a Bimmer fanatic.

  • @boss12
    @boss12 Рік тому +16

    Still looks fresh after all these years.

  • @JRB41
    @JRB41 Рік тому +25

    Gorgeous car, SO much better than any new BMW. This will forever be a classic GT!

  • @chriscornelius2518
    @chriscornelius2518 Рік тому +11

    The interior is so clean with that monochromatic design

  • @acadm
    @acadm Рік тому +27

    Such a beautiful car, especially the 850 CSi version. Driven by Robert De Niro in the old movie, "The Score". Glad I have the CSi version (as a 1 to 18 scale model)

    • @kowalski5599
      @kowalski5599 Рік тому +4

      He also drove one for only one scene in Heat (1995) and we see another 8 series in action at the start of the 1997 film Excess Baggage - put thru its paces by Benicio Del Toro.

  • @joebrito2066
    @joebrito2066 Рік тому +8

    One of the most beautiful BMW designs

  • @pmafterdark
    @pmafterdark Рік тому +8

    Always thought they were pretty cool looking cars. Love the Radio Shack sound meter 😄

    • @fernandorocha-dx1wv
      @fernandorocha-dx1wv Рік тому

      Beauitful the BMW 850 CSi 1991, i love the design and excelent perfomance

  • @omidnamin9004
    @omidnamin9004 Рік тому +9

    the golden era of BMW. oh how times have changed

    • @Gr8thxAlot
      @Gr8thxAlot Рік тому +1

      BMW has lost it's way multiple times since then, and it keeps on going deeper into the woods.

  • @jessesward9429
    @jessesward9429 Рік тому +1

    It’s always cool to see the average cars on the roads in these videos. Not a single cross over on the road, just trrucks, suv, vans, station wagons, cars, coupes. Alll have that 80/90s boxy looks, so cool

  • @ftr911drvr
    @ftr911drvr Рік тому +9

    Definitely one of BMWs best looking cars if not the best looking. A 12 cylinder manual BMW GT definitely wont happen again

  • @cdldriver2348
    @cdldriver2348 Рік тому +9

    I always thought this design was 10 years ahead of its time, always looked cool & the good ol' days where a manual was "standard" and the automatic was considered "optional."

  • @sammyt3514
    @sammyt3514 Рік тому +3

    I remember that I didn't warm up to that BMW model when it first came out since it was a sharp departure from how BMWs looked at the time, but it didn't take long for me to fall in love with the looks of it and I still love it 33 years on!

  • @skip741x3
    @skip741x3 Рік тому +16

    Gorgeous,Very expensive and advanced for its time...A manual With a v12 is just insane and almost impossible to get these days...That stopping power from 60 in 108 ft for a car of this weight was Outstanding by any standard...Being a bmw, God only knows what reliability issues lurk in these cars.

    • @sonnyblack0870
      @sonnyblack0870 Рік тому

      I think it is impossible to get these days. Unless Ferrari or Aston is making a manual V12, I really can’t think of one.

    • @thetechlibrarian
      @thetechlibrarian Рік тому

      @@sonnyblack0870Aston is probably the last and I think they are gone now within the last year.

    • @jeremyb4493
      @jeremyb4493 9 місяців тому

      ​@@thetechlibrarianand they're now using merc engines I believe

    • @spenceronni7
      @spenceronni7 4 місяці тому

      The engine operates as two inline sixes. It’s as reliable as two inline sixes at the same time. Quite reliable, but with twice as many parts.

    • @Housecat333
      @Housecat333 3 місяці тому

      Very simple engine, but the chassis electronics arent easy to maintain

  • @BabyBugBug
    @BabyBugBug Рік тому +3

    I normally don’t like BMW, but I LOVE the old ones!

  • @Matticus289
    @Matticus289 4 місяці тому +1

    A lot of comments gushing over how beautiful this car is. It looks like an elongated Geo Storm

  • @davidaubin3902
    @davidaubin3902 5 місяців тому +1

    5:39 John: OIL PRESSURE AND VOLT READOUTS, IF YOU PLEASE! LOL

  • @ys_a1659
    @ys_a1659 Рік тому +4

    100 comments in 6 hours. That alone shows how great this car was and is all over.

  • @P.Galore
    @P.Galore Рік тому +2

    I have owned both an 850i and a 840ci....wonderful driving cars and the most beautiful coupe BMW has ever created.

  • @Porsche996driver
    @Porsche996driver Рік тому +2

    I saw this introduced in Frankfurt IAA back in the day. Quite stunning still today when compared to the classic 635.

  • @briang70
    @briang70 7 місяців тому +1

    34 years later, the exterior design still looks fresh.

  • @MForrester
    @MForrester Рік тому

    I've waited a few years to see this "Retro" video again. Thank you Motorweek.

  • @tim_g3478
    @tim_g3478 Рік тому +2

    Amazing to see what was state of the art in accessories 33 years ago. Beautifully styled car inside and out!

  • @DougSmith-kd3en
    @DougSmith-kd3en Рік тому +1

    Very Beautiful and timeless car .❤These Retro reviews !!

  • @american1476
    @american1476 Рік тому +4

    most beautiful bimmer ever built

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 Рік тому +3

    This & Porsche 928 are My Favorite German 1990s GTs.

  • @roddydykes7053
    @roddydykes7053 Рік тому +3

    5:34 - 5:43 this has to be the record for longest John has spent complaining about the missing oil pressure and volt meter gauges

  • @poomped53
    @poomped53 Рік тому +6

    That OBC betraying the 16 mpg average 😮‍💨

    • @j.m.5995
      @j.m.5995 Рік тому +1

      Not too shabby for a V12

  • @kingkat8080
    @kingkat8080 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm thinking this car would have been a major money pit after a few years of use, but a hell of a lot of fun. I had a pair of tony lama boots that looked similar to the one the guys got on here.

  • @j.m.5995
    @j.m.5995 Рік тому

    I seen this car cruising the Hwy recently and man oh man what a beautiful car

  • @lotsoftorque3632
    @lotsoftorque3632 Рік тому +9

    Didn't realize this had so many of the same components that are in my 1995 740i, strangely enough though my car has a shorter stopping distance. BMW brakes from the 90s are still better than most performance cars today.

    • @carlasghost656
      @carlasghost656 Рік тому

      In an earlier review I believe a 325i is one of the few to do 60-0 in less than 100' during their test.

    • @cflynn3684
      @cflynn3684 Рік тому +1

      Especially the 90s m5. It has a stopping distance in just 95’ on motor week which is STILL the best braking distance I’ve ever seen on this show; even vs modern cars.

    • @lotsoftorque3632
      @lotsoftorque3632 Рік тому

      @@cflynn3684 Wow didn't know that! The younger generation today always talks about Brembo brakes as if they are the best. Not knowing BMW stock brakes were more impressive 30 years ago. The e34 M5 is debatably the most beautiful car ever made. But yea I had a 2009 Porsche cayenne GTS to for awhile, and the stopping distance on that was 107 feet. It was unbelievable to learn my more luxury focused, 14 year older BMW stopped faster.

  • @henryovalles1163
    @henryovalles1163 Рік тому +2

    I have this exact spec auto been refurbishing it as I use it ...but every time I drive the car makes me feel special ...

  • @nullispretiicollective
    @nullispretiicollective Рік тому

    the overlayed shot of the shifting and clutch action is one of the funniest things ive ever seen in one of these

  • @johngennace4045
    @johngennace4045 Рік тому +5

    Beautiful. New Bimmer designs are ghastly.

    • @dallisb1047
      @dallisb1047 Рік тому

      And how! If you took off the badges nobody would believe that they were made by the same manufacturer.

    • @BabyBugBug
      @BabyBugBug Рік тому

      They’re absolutely hideous, especially those electric monstrosities.

    • @TheSmokingDen
      @TheSmokingDen 2 місяці тому

      The new X M looks like a big piggy with big piggy nostrils.

  • @Zelielz1
    @Zelielz1 Рік тому

    Amazingly well equiped and beautiful!

  • @aronyak1
    @aronyak1 4 місяці тому +1

    Cutlass in the right lane 👍

  • @mrlafayette1964
    @mrlafayette1964 Рік тому +4

    73k was a lot of $ 30 years ago.. but it's a classic that's aged well.

    • @Gr8thxAlot
      @Gr8thxAlot Рік тому

      $73k invested in 1990 would now be $1.2 million in 2023. It goes to show what a bad investment cars are. :-) But, it is beautiful!

    • @YOCOSMINMAX16
      @YOCOSMINMAX16 Рік тому

      ​@@Gr8thxAlotinvested in what?

  • @dallisb1047
    @dallisb1047 Рік тому +1

    Top 10 of the Best looking cars ever!

  • @Butchcub75
    @Butchcub75 Рік тому +4

    GOD I drove one of these with the V12 and a manual.. so gorgeous but soooo fragile. Death Becomes Her car (Goldie Hawn's characters car)

  • @rodmunch69
    @rodmunch69 6 місяців тому +2

    I've owned 3 BMWs, never once had a desire to check my oil pressure. Also I like that they went around the building to find the most yuppie looking person they could find to sit in the car, that made me laugh.

  • @brainkill7034
    @brainkill7034 8 місяців тому

    Gorgeous. The build quality of that generation of BMWs was phenomenal as well. One of the greats right here. I’d prefer the V8 though for maintenance reasons.

  • @MitchGrooms
    @MitchGrooms Рік тому +1

    I am a Jag guy but this is one of the best BMW ever did.

  • @carolinamagnetfishing
    @carolinamagnetfishing 11 місяців тому

    I am on my third E31 and I love it. One 840 and two 850s. I am about to do an LS swap in my current one. The V12 is very smooth but she is tired.

  • @DnaturalBreaux
    @DnaturalBreaux Рік тому +3

    V12 and 6 speed manual!!! Those were the days!!! Now every GT Cruiser and stuper Car is autotradgic!!! Oh how we have fallen!!

  • @DavidJCarrell
    @DavidJCarrell Рік тому +3

    Amazingly it still looks modern on the outside. Save the manuals!!!!

  • @bghoody5665
    @bghoody5665 Рік тому +1

    I just recently watched the TG episode where Hammond bought this (it was a '94) and Clarkson bought a Merc for the same price as the cheapest new car in the UK. A beautiful BMW with a V12, what more could you want?

  • @FrankRommerts-dr4yp
    @FrankRommerts-dr4yp Рік тому +1

    I had a BMW 850CSi in burgundy red with Alpina wheels.

  • @acquire8658
    @acquire8658 Рік тому +2

    Probably the best BMW ever made

  • @BReal-10EC
    @BReal-10EC Рік тому +1

    Two Escort Wagons on the highway back to back? I didn't realize those were that popular back then.

  • @akajimbo1
    @akajimbo1 Рік тому

    My favorite BMW of all time and it had british green color

  • @Lucas-nh2mk
    @Lucas-nh2mk Рік тому +2

    80 and 90 Bmw ❤

  • @elcheapo5302
    @elcheapo5302 Рік тому +2

    $176,000 in todays money. And it’d get its doors blown off by a $28,000 4 cylinder Camry. 🤣

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 Рік тому

      Which 4 cylinder Camry can do a trap speed of 100mph in the quarter mile?

  • @jpadicecoffee9812
    @jpadicecoffee9812 Рік тому +1

    Wheels are wider and bigger these days. Even the e46 coupe has larger tires and they also make great comfortable reliable long distance GT with 320+ miles range.

  • @Area51UFOGynaecology
    @Area51UFOGynaecology 4 місяці тому

    a manual 850... what an absolute dream car

  • @anibalbabilonia1867
    @anibalbabilonia1867 Рік тому +2

    Man one of the most beautiful BMW ever made!👌😍👍and still holds up beautifully today! I never could afford one back then! But I bought a 1/18 scale model of that beauty that I still have today on display!

    • @Gr8thxAlot
      @Gr8thxAlot Рік тому

      My high school brain tried to calculate how I could save up for one back then. :-) Some of these are pretty cheap now, but I'd hate to repair them.

  • @doug6191
    @doug6191 Рік тому +2

    0:15 - I don't trust John's claim of America's pronunciation of "gran turismo" given his butchering of "Cam-ray". 😂

  • @ravipeiris4388
    @ravipeiris4388 Рік тому

    This car fascinated me when I was a college student in 1990. I drive a 2011 Maybach 57s sporting a V12. I'm the driver that I am due to my 1973 VW Superbeetle that I drove during those college days.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy Рік тому +2

    $77,000 is equivalent to $181,000 today. Yikes!

  • @hottub2249
    @hottub2249 Рік тому +2

    Wish I bought one of these years ago!

  • @dd4886
    @dd4886 Рік тому +5

    "Optional traction control"... what a time 😅

  • @scoutandscooter
    @scoutandscooter 7 місяців тому +2

    if you had $75,000 in a tax deferred fund in 1990 it would be worth $800,000 today. I think most 850is are either worth less than $20,000 and should be or are in the scrap yard.

  • @TheCarCrazyGuy
    @TheCarCrazyGuy Рік тому

    3:46 Well that's a blast from the past. Radio Shack, a Tandy Corporation.

  • @AK-lw2jw
    @AK-lw2jw Рік тому +1

    This car was one of the very few manual equipped units that rolled off the line. The total number of similarly equipped cars is in the low double digits if I recall. Most test cars are pre production models, so it’s likely this car went into the crusher not long after all the journalists finished having their fun with it. It’s possible it survived. If it did, finding it would be very easy thanks to the registry.

    • @hoodye90
      @hoodye90 Рік тому

      847 “regular” 850i’s from ’91-’93 (in the USA). Not including the CSi. I own one of these (6-speed). This also looks like the same car that C&D tested in ’91 as well. Hopefully it was sold on after testing was completed…

  • @cardo1111
    @cardo1111 Рік тому +3

    Light years ahead of its time, one of Bavarian Motor Works best.

  • @DavidFriend-WV
    @DavidFriend-WV Рік тому

    wow it has amazing technology where the windows go up and down when you close them :)

  • @marcosduarte1830
    @marcosduarte1830 Рік тому

    Masterpiece of BMW of the decade 90 .

  • @InconnuDuDixneuf
    @InconnuDuDixneuf Рік тому

    4:56 please name of this guy ?
    On most motorweek videos from 1991 to 1996

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill Рік тому

    This car is very nice-looking, to be sure, but I still think the 635csi is the best-looking car BMW ever made, hands down. A friend of mine had one with a manual transmission and *WOW* was that a fun car!! If I were ever going to buy a classic BMW I'd have that over any of the others.

  • @majorcalvary6515
    @majorcalvary6515 Рік тому

    A Bavarian Super Model. Still stunning today.

  • @MarkCordell
    @MarkCordell Рік тому

    Love the pop up headlamps.

  • @bayouengineer
    @bayouengineer Рік тому

    What’s that song on the tape inserted at 5:50?

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr Рік тому

    Such a beautiful car)))

  • @Rayrard
    @Rayrard 11 місяців тому

    This looks good even 33 years later

  • @ericharrison619
    @ericharrison619 Рік тому +1

    Easily one of the most beautiful cars of the time.

  • @laszlogaspar1244
    @laszlogaspar1244 Рік тому

    Still looks good 👍👑💪🏻

  • @bradpriebe9218
    @bradpriebe9218 23 дні тому

    I always have loved the look of this car and still do.
    Given it's a GT and a very different car with a very different purpose. But to compare apples to watermelons - the BMW 5 L V-12 makes about the same HP and torque (as well as almost the same weight) as a 1.6L turbo I-3 Toyota GR Corolla

  • @Daniel28021991
    @Daniel28021991 Рік тому

    So beautiful

  • @ricardocorbie6803
    @ricardocorbie6803 Рік тому +1

    Loved 🥰 this one!! Look at 1 today,, which is rare to see, it looks modern and still relevant a testimony to its greatness!! I would buy one today given the opportunity and availability of extra cash 🤣🤣🤣

  • @sp4604
    @sp4604 Рік тому

    what a dream GT

  • @LetMrAL1
    @LetMrAL1 Рік тому

    To say you had 2 doors with a V12 back then people KNEW you were someone and you did a different job than everyone else.

  • @ericervin4778
    @ericervin4778 Рік тому +2

    STILL one of the sexiest cars ever made!!!! Not sexiest BMWs ever made. One of the sexiest cars PERIOD!!!!

  • @travisbruce5096
    @travisbruce5096 Рік тому

    The original car enthusiast

  • @danielknight7256
    @danielknight7256 Рік тому +2

    ❤ You Motorweek

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Рік тому

    Whoa...$77,500 in 1990 is over $180,000 today...

  • @peatyxxjxxx1494
    @peatyxxjxxx1494 Рік тому

    Who sold the cell service back in the day? Was it BMW? Just curious if anyone recalls the process of activating one of the in car cellular phones. Was it the same as pager service plans?

  • @juanvega6418
    @juanvega6418 Рік тому

    5:52 Strut !!!

  • @sonnyblack0870
    @sonnyblack0870 Рік тому

    What I’d be driving in the 90’s. Only wish they made an M8.

  • @oreally8605
    @oreally8605 Рік тому +1

    The guy testing the interior of the car with the suit and tie looks like the perfect yuppie who would buy that car..

  • @NathanArnold-sf7gx
    @NathanArnold-sf7gx 6 місяців тому

    Still beautiful

  • @mollari2261
    @mollari2261 Рік тому

    How many other cars got slapped with the MPG tax? Was this the first?

  • @netowork3d
    @netowork3d Рік тому +1

    Carro bonito até hoje!