I’m 42 years old. And, to this day. When I am driving in traffic I literally use Shredders voice & say: “They Are Stupid!!” Both a great call back & the honest truth about drivers on the road. 😎
@@fnkbrig2942 It’s quiet Yea a little too quiet.. There’s Ralph! Yea a little too Ralph.. Who's Ralph? It’s quiet Yea a little too quiet.. There’s Raph! Yea a little too Raph..
They went off-brand the second they made the first movie and then made it worse by making a cheesy childrens cartoon. Most people don't even know how vicious the original comics were.
@@jeffspain3613 I had some of the comics when I was a kid, and was in aww at how much more violent and brutal it was compared to the movie and cartoon series. The turtles actually use their weapons as intended. Foot clan would regularly get limbs cut off, sherikans to the face, and stabbed to death. It was awesome
What I love about this channel is the fact that at its core, it’s a dude that loves movies. He doesn’t force humor everywhere, he’s funny when it fits. Even if I knew most of the trivia, it’s an entertaining watch every time.
Everytime I'm out cutting my yard and I see some weeds, specifically "Dandelions" I always immediately think back to that scene in the beginning with the giant dandelions growing because of the ooze and the dude picking one and saying "dandelions" in such a weird way. No idea why! lol
As a kid, my father was good enough to take me and a couple friends to see this despite not knowing a thing about TMNT or Vanilla Ice. I was always grateful he sat through that for us.
My dad who normally wouldn't be into stuff like this also took me and my friends and he surprisingly liked it as much as we did. Great memories to have now.
The first TMNT movie I took my girlfriend/wife to see as a bunch of my "manly man" friends talked about how terrible it would be to take a girl to see a movie like that and that no self-respecting man would ever do such a thing as it would run any and all the females off. She and I had a great time and, surprise surprise, it didn't run her off... The poor gal actually married me and still is. Guys then and guys now, are weird. We've seen all the TMNT movies and still enjoy them to no end.
My poor grandma took me to see this movie like 12 times. It never got old for me, but she was probably glad when it left theaters. Then I got it on VHS.
They say it like that in Australia and UK. And in the northeast US sometimes. They say er instead of uh. They use both sounds interchangeably I've noticed.
@@isaiahconstante2206 yeah it’s like the insert an R sound between two vowels when one word ends with a vowel and the next word is supposed to begin with a vowel.
Not sure if I'm mixing it with Simpsons ice cream, but wasn't there TMNT ice cream as well and it was shit but you just had to have it like everything else TMNT related.
@@photonut69 In the first movie Tatsu tells a kid who bumps into him, "Go play." In the second Shredder tells Tokka, and Razar the above line to threaten the turtles.
Super Shredder looked great on the big screen. I loved how they had the water glistening off his armor. You're right tho about his death, everybody at the time hated how Super Shredder was killed off in 5 seconds. I still have a faint memory bitching about it to my dad after walking out of theater...but I did like the movie, I was 7 after all.
I had a chance to talk with Judith Hoag a few years ago at Steel City Con. She said she was complaining about the working conditions for the actors, not the violence. And yes that women has aged like a fine wine. She's actually better looking now than in the movie.
That makes sense. The second one was non violent so she would have had nothing to complain about so I always found that unlikely that she wouldn't return for that reason.
I met Ho Sung Pak at a theater in Chicago, because he was doing publicity for TMNT II, as he was doing the stunt work in the Raphael suit. He was also in Chicago to do all the motion capture for Liu Kang in a little game series called Mortal Kombat
@@sleepinggorilla they really arent though :/ At best they are ok. Cmon. be real. Just because something is fun to watch doesn't mean it's done well. This aint Bloodsport we're talking about. That God Awful nunchucku scene at the end of the first with Splinter defeating Shredder's spear...was So Bad. Splinter's facial animation was ghastly too. Throughout the movie. I love the movie but it's full of directorial mistakes and the fight choreography is ....bland compared to anything made since. (for the most part) Anchorman brawl was 1000 times more coordinated. And it had no right to be considering it was a situation that had no effect on the story or the characters at all.
Honorable mention Michael Jai White was in this film as a Foot Soldier, if you watch the Wide screen edition you can see him briefly to the right on the scene when keno infiltrates the foot clan as they're going into the warehouse to begin training
Me too. I still enjoyed it when I was a kid but rewatching those movies as an adult I definitely have a better appreciation for the first one as it was more comic book accurate. Even the story drew inspiration from the comics as well.
Agreed. At the age of 12 I didn't get to see many movies in the theater but I was loving the turtles back then so I had to see that movie. That year I saw 'TMNT 2' and 'The Rocketeer' and I was rather disappointed that 'The Rocketeer' ended up being the better movie. I'll never forgive all those mouthy parents for pressuring the studio to tone-down the violence, or Eastman and Laird for restricting character availability. We coulda had a better movie, and maybe even a great trilogy.
When I was a kid The Turtles were my childhood. Every birthday my parents would take me to Toys R Us and I would basically spend all my money on every Turtle thing I could get. The documentary Turtle Power is a really good watch. I couldn't wrap my head around how difficult it was to get funding for the Turtles movies considering it was a billion dollar commodity at the time and even though they basically had to scrape about nine million dollars for the first film and it was the biggest movie of that year, Turtles 2 still had to scrap a lot for "budgetary and time constraints." it's bonkers.
Lololllll! “Could someone think of the poor childrennnn!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂 I was literally on the floor dying! My God I swear I rewind that part 10 times at least! 😭😭😭😭 I love this guy! I’m subscribing ASAP!👍🏽👍🏽
When the second movie was released I really enjoyed this one more it had everything you wanted in a TMNT movie as a kid. Now that I'm in my 40s I respect the first one for being so faithful to the original comics
Same here. The 2nd one always was my favorite. As a very young kid at the time, it was more appealing being that it's more fun and light hearted than the first. Still is my favorite one to this day, but in all honesty it's only because of the nostalgia I get watching it. If I were to watch both movies for the first time as an adult, the first one definetly would be better
I remember watching secret of the ooze far more than the first movie when I was a kid but man I can barely watch it as an adult where I still thoroughly enjoy the first one.
they always missed the opportunity to use Dr Jordan as Baxter Stockman and mutate him in the Fly man in the movie, beside the prohibition to use Rocksteady and Bebop, with Tokka e Rahzar instead (they were however awesome too)... He was identical as the cartoon character design! When i was a child indeed always tought he was Baxter with a fake name. Maybe was the same problem as character like Rocksteady and Bebop.
Guys, i know. all you said. But THIS movie, was supposed to be more like the cartoon... Was made at prior in the same mood, of the cartoon. And in the cartoon, Baxter is the carbon copy of Professor Jonathan.... same dress, same papillon, same face and same hair/glasses, attire and interpretation. A missed opportunity, so. Or something like Rocksteady and Bebop, staged at prior and later changed in the script thanks the no no by Peter on some characters. Of course, just my idea.. i suppose that... I've never seen a special on the secrets of the movie itself, beside this.. So maybe all is possible, in the end.
I’m 38. I 100% agree that - growing up - the second version was my favorite but as an adult I like the first version more. Both are excellent, though. If either is on TV you can guarantee I am stopping what I’m doing to watch it.
Hollywood criticizes anyone who they think should not make any money. They were pissed because all of their movies were not making the margins that this series did.
Just thinking about the fact my fiancee and I were 4 and 7 when part 1 came out and went together (we were neighbors and really good friends for that age) to now being engaged and part 2 came out 31 years ago is pretty insane
@@thedarkknight51 yes! She moved away 4 years later and other than talking once every few years we didnt have a lot of contact. Both got married to other people and year before last i messaged her to ask about something we did as kids and 2 years later the conversation never ended. Last march she took me to my favorite beach and proposed to me on the beach at sunset. I think fate played a huge role in it
Yeah, I liked the second TMNT movie even more than the first one at the time because I was 7 and loved the 80s cartoon. I used to wake up every Saturday morning just to watch that cartoon lol. As the years went on though I appreciate the first TMNT movie much more than the second. I loved the boldness and grittiness of it. The lighting and puppets looked amazing. The music and soundtrack was epic asf! Shredder's had one of the best intro themes I think for a villain ever in any movie. Remember the scene where he talks to the foot clan and he gives his speech? Badass. The guy who played Shredder in the first TMNT did a wonderful job I thought. I loved how he spoke/read his lines.
Likewise. It must only of been cut on certain home video releases or something? I know it wasn't ever cut out of the film when it was shown on Sky movies cos that's how I used to watch it regularly from recording it off one of the sky movie channels.
I always enjoy your videos. This one particularly! I didn't know a lot of these! I don't know if it was my excitement, but... Did I hear you say "Vanilla Rice"?
Ninja Turtles II was the first Turtles movie I saw in the cinema - my parents actually let me and my sister go to a cinema and watch it, which was surprising, given the more adult tone of the first movie - I guess they didn't know anything about it. I was very disappointed by the ending - super Shredder killing himself was a terrible way to end it. I also didn't like vanilla ice and the dance number. I loved pretty much everything else - especially Ernie Reyes Jr. and that is because I was a huge fan of Sidekicks TV show, which he co stared - I immediately recognized his credit in the opening of the movie and I got excited - I love all of his scenes, he has more fight scenes than Turtles have in the movie, and he also has a great plot of sneaking into the ranks of the foot clan. Back then I didn't notice the toned down violence, but it was immediately obvious as soon as I re-watched the original movie on VHS - and this basically killed the sequel for me - I never watched it again, while I re-watched the original probably couple of dozens of times. I never saw the 3rd movie - I just lost interest in TMNT franchise altogether. The mid 90s were a terrible time for sequels - everything was made kid friendly, pg13 and devoid of any excitement. Such a waste.
@@eliashuapilla I never saw any of them - as soon as I saw the terrible designs and humor - It was enough for me to not waste my time. But I very much liked the TMNT 2007 movie - it was pretty cool.
His name is Ernie Reyes Jr, his dad choroegraphed the fights in Surf Ninjas, he was also on Surf Ninjas and The Rundown with The Rock and Sean William Scott. Theh said he has cancer now but haven't heard about hkm in a while, also I am not sure about this but I think he might have been in a movie in mid 1980s called "The Last Dragon" About a Chinese teacher teaching Bruce Leroy a guy who is at the last of a circle of trainging and a medallion supposedly from Bruce Lee. He is a little kid but when he is showing his Ki almost at the end of the movie.
This is one of the 30 plus years of TMNT DVD's on my shelf along with an original (complete) party wagon and figures. That party wagon is a hell of a centerpiece, and TMNT Pops make wicked book ends. Also...I flippin WANT that Mars Attacks figure you got haha
"...when the evil Shredder attacks." those Turtles Boys dont cut him no slack! Ha. cant believe i still remember that line from the cartoon's theme song
31 y/o here, watched it a couple of months ago. I had to skip through certain parts of dialogue and story development but it was still fantastic to watch. I really love the analysis towards the end, and throughout, that they missed the mark by toning down the violence. As someone who was born in '89 and grew up with a ton of 80s influences since I have a sister who is 6 years older than me, and a brother who is 4 years older than me, I got a lot of the hand me downs. And growing up I never could distinguish what it was that was particularly different about them(the 1st and 2nd TMNT live action movies), since the internet was still in development and the times were just different from the flow of instant access to endless information we have available today. But it really was the dark tone from the first one that keeps it relevant today. The Turtle's even went through existential crisis' and battled depression in the first movie when they lost Splinter like he was already dead. Raph goes looking for a fight as is his coping mechanism and stumbles across Casey Jones who easily had the popularity to return to this movie and could have played a relavant role to Keno and played the double agent line getting caught up by The Foot. The second one obviously paces better, but that doesn't always make it a better movie, just easier to watch and digest. The second one has a lot of fantastic elements, but I'm left to wonder at 18:46 just how fucking cool that fight scene would have been, and just all the fight scenes and the overall intensity of the movie if it followed the first movie more thematically. When you said you should do right by your fans and ignore your critics, the example you gave is the one that has ever made the most sense to me. Its still a gem in my eyes, but I was also like ~5 the first time I watched it, but when I did watch it again I really enjoyed it for what it was, a well put together film that predates CGI and does fantastic with this element that was pretty much entirely experimental. But the lack of grit, violence, and a real sense of danger and possible defeat were missing from the second film. Because just about everything else was fantastic. Even April got so much cuter. Fantastic analysis
Hi mark, big fan! I've been watching your videos for a long time now! Really enjoy them! I'm from liverpool, and spent my youth absolutely loving everything about the 80s! Keep up the good work squire!!!👍👍👍😁😁
It’s actually a myth that Ninja was considered too violent a word in the UK. It was changed as Yardley had a men’s fragrance range named Ninja and when the comics came out they sued as they owned a trademark. As the publisher couldn’t afford to fight the case they switched to hero. As for nunchucks a kid strangled a friend with homemade ones after seeing Bruce Lee in the 70s. There was a blanket ban till ‘97.
Whatever the UK thing was it had wider influence, I remember that some products here in Finland had Hero too but some still had Ninja and always thought that violence was the reason.
Actually I have more info on the subplot on the revelation of the Ooze, yes we were going to get the Utrom but here's the rest of it. You remember the end fight in which Kino kicks the canister of Ooze away from Shredder and Professor Jordan Perry just gets it and leaves? Well it was going to reveal in a scene in which he's in the restroom and he opens up his shirt and a brain creature is inside his chest cavity, revealing that Jordan Perry is actually a Utrom from Dimension X. Heck when the Turtles are in TGRI (instead of TCRI from the comics) if you pay attention to the entire lab specifically the center piece that is a glass pyramid, you can already see a Utrom in there. It's a shame that the subplot was not further explored because they thought it was "too weird", if you want to watch a video on the subject The Old Turtle Den did a video on the deleted subplot.
Yes this is accurate. I heard about that sometime ago but I'd forgotten till you just reminded me. I really wish they would have taken the time and made it the way they originally planned! How great that would have been!
@@jayfonz5765 Right?! Kids would be talking about that ending and would convince their friends to tell their parents to see this movie, that means a sequel with the Turtles in space would've been epic.
@@orinanime Thanks. I wasn't sure how far they went into production with that plot point. Would definitely have added some weight to a pretty thin storyline.
@@Awesoman Part of the reason the revel of Professor Jordan being an Utrom was never filmed was due to the fact that Krang from the Fred Wolf cartoon is visually based on the Utroms(despite his race being a different one) from the Mirage comic books, and the filmmakers did not want to confuse children viewing the film.
Vanilla Rice?! The first movie is brilliant. Even as a kid seeing all these new, I couldn’t stomach either sequel. I’ve never seen either of them more than once.
haha i had fun watching this man, you nailed it at the end when you talked about just staying true to your core fans instead of trying to please everyone. This same rationale could be applied to video games as well when they make sequels or changes/updates. Anyways good stuff me :D
It was lighter and goofier but somehow still felt cool and still in-line enough with the first film, pretty much still a continuation and feeling like a big change in tone.
love the vids man! I always send them to my dad to watch since he was an 80s kid and I just watched a lot of the same shows he did and I was a huge Thundercats fan!
You’re correct for doing so. At 43, I own the first film. I saw the sequels new and never bothered watching either of them more than once. I’ve never even considered watching the Bay films.
Jeff Spain, That might make it a bad adaptation. It doesn’t make it a bad movie. For those who have no experience with the source material, it doesn’t matter.
I’m from London and can vouch for the censorship of mikeys nunchuku in the show But I remember the movie channel on sky showing the scene with the “combat cold cuts” The scene was in
I'm from the UK, and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the Michelangelo scene with the salami nunchucks when I was a kid on both TV and VHS. Me and my friends used to joke about it a lot
Same here, I had the VHS and the nunchucks scene is definitely in there. Same for the cartoon, although it is called hero turtles, it has the nunchucks.
I’m 42 years old. And, to this day. When I am driving in traffic I literally use Shredders voice & say: “They Are Stupid!!” Both a great call back & the honest truth about drivers on the road. 😎
They’re not stupid, they’re infants XD
"Bang."
"Ow!"
Ok, they're stupid infants.
Im 53 now was a 23 when it came out then
Whenever someone asks for someone to challenge them, I always hear him saying "I challenge...."
Leo: You take the ugly one
Ralph: No you take the ugly one
Donatello: I'll take the ugly one
Mikey: Which one is the ugly one?
🤣🤣
Funny Stuff! thumbs up!
It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Ralph!
Yea a little too Ralph..
@@fnkbrig2942 It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Ralph!
Yea a little too Ralph..
Who's Ralph?
It’s quiet
Yea a little too quiet..
There’s Raph!
Yea a little too Raph..
@@DJShihTzuman why is raph?
@@fnkbrig2942 best line in the movie
"It's better to be true to your brand, than try to appease the people who are going to complain no matter what."
Truly words to live by.
Thirty years later and companies *still* don’t understand that.
They went off-brand the second they made the first movie and then made it worse by making a cheesy childrens cartoon. Most people don't even know how vicious the original comics were.
100% agree.
@@jeffspain3613 I had some of the comics when I was a kid, and was in aww at how much more violent and brutal it was compared to the movie and cartoon series.
The turtles actually use their weapons as intended. Foot clan would regularly get limbs cut off, sherikans to the face, and stabbed to death. It was awesome
Yess
You really hit the nail on the head for...really the entire 90s:
“They’ll complain that it’s too violent AND they’ll complain that it’s too childish.”
Ahh the old VHS 😆
We'd play them so many times that the tape inside would wear out 😆😆😆
Who are they? That's the point you childishly misses. Are you 12 already?
I think that it’s the same nowadays too. Anyone will complain about anything.
What I love about this channel is the fact that at its core, it’s a dude that loves movies. He doesn’t force humor everywhere, he’s funny when it fits. Even if I knew most of the trivia, it’s an entertaining watch every time.
"Babies! They're Babies" -- best Shreddar line ever
"What did you expect. Them quoting Macbeth?"
@@wstine79 lol
Mama?
They’re stupid! They’re not stupid they’re infants, BANG! Ok they’re stupid infants lol
I personally like “The next fight will be freak against freak!”
Honorable Mention: Micheal Jai White was in the group with Kino to join the foot.
Glad someone else noticed. Good eye 👁👍
@@SuperMrXYZ123 i wanna see him go through the tests. I know he got his pajamas lol
@@slythe3rd100 For sure lol.
So is Daniel Pesina
didn't know that
Donatello: "Look, it's Raph!"
Michelangelo: "Yeah, a little too Raph" 👀
My favorite part 🤣😂
I remember.
😂 great throwaway line
Big time LOL
This comment made my day
Everytime I'm out cutting my yard and I see some weeds, specifically "Dandelions" I always immediately think back to that scene in the beginning with the giant dandelions growing because of the ooze and the dude picking one and saying "dandelions" in such a weird way. No idea why! lol
He's saying "dandeloins" in such a weird way because he's shocked and astonished at the gigantic mutant size of them.
@@darthcaul9447 Yep! My lawnmower would HATE those things!
As a kid, my father was good enough to take me and a couple friends to see this despite not knowing a thing about TMNT or Vanilla Ice.
I was always grateful he sat through that for us.
My dad who normally wouldn't be into stuff like this also took me and my friends and he surprisingly liked it as much as we did. Great memories to have now.
@The New NKVD Like your handle. Didn't know anyone had even heard of the NKVD. Don't be a fool, like Beria. Play nice, or share fate of Australian AG.
My dad took us to Beavis and Butt-Head. He loved them 🤣.
1:09
"I feel old now."
We all do, Minty, we all do...
The first TMNT movie I took my girlfriend/wife to see as a bunch of my "manly man" friends talked about how terrible it would be to take a girl to see a movie like that and that no self-respecting man would ever do such a thing as it would run any and all the females off. She and I had a great time and, surprise surprise, it didn't run her off... The poor gal actually married me and still is. Guys then and guys now, are weird. We've seen all the TMNT movies and still enjoy them to no end.
Awesome!
Even the Michael Bay produced ones?
Which I liked quite a bit.
It's both lazy and (obviously shown in your story!) incorrect to bottle females up into some sort of hivemind lol, people are people!
That's an awesome story😁🍸
That's awesome. Did you do the Ninja rap together?
My poor grandma took me to see this movie like 12 times. It never got old for me, but she was probably glad when it left theaters. Then I got it on VHS.
Lol. We are probably around the same age. The only movie I saw twice in the theater was Terminator 2.
I saw it 12 times too,I would walk to our mall to go to c it lol my parents got tired of taking me 2 c it lol
Damm, 12 times ?! Wow ur grandma was awesome
once was enough
Critics:
1st movie - Too dark and violent
2nd movie - Not violent enough
Hypocrites much?
Go figure!! 😂
Sorry, where was the violence in the first movie?
I can’t unhear “Vanilla Rice”. Was that on purpose? 😂
It’s Vanillar Ice! Duhhh
Rice, Rice, Gravy 🎶 😎
They say it like that in Australia and UK. And in the northeast US sometimes. They say er instead of uh. They use both sounds interchangeably I've noticed.
@@isaiahconstante2206 yeah it’s like the insert an R sound between two vowels when one word ends with a vowel and the next word is supposed to begin with a vowel.
@@isaiahconstante2206 Not really, matey boy here just has a talent for linguistic butchery.
I still remember poping this movie into the VCR 73 times as a 6 yr old. So glad you finally did this movie!
Yup, it was the one I watched most often when I was a wee lad. Ironically, it's my least favorite of the three original movies as an adult.
Ya i still have the VHS tapes📼📼📼📼📼📼📼📼 and VCR! Lol 😂 I don't have Ninja Turtle though!🐸🐸🐸🐸🐢🐢🐢🐢🐛🐛🐲🐉
So did I I run my VCR to the ground
Born in 1985?
My brothers would rewind it and play it over and over all night especially after the 3td movie. Have DVDs and Blu-Ray.
Everytime the intro scene plays I get the hunger for NY pizza
Unfortunately crappy Dominos pizza of the 90s
Its been years searching, i have yet to find the type of slice my young self idolized
Me too. And I've never had NY pizza. - that is, Pizza made in NY.
That’s my secret Cap, I’m always hungry for NY pizza
All the time 🤣
"VANILLA RICE" AHAHAH
Gotta love Australian accent
I can’t tell you how many times I saw this movie when I was a kid. My brother and I wore out the VHS 😂 😂
All I have to do is hear that classic intro for the VHS tapes f.h.e😂
Anyone remember the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles " pies? Had green pudding in them. I loved those as a kid
Those were so good!
Anyone remember the turtles version of teddy grams ? And if you ate to many of them they would turn your shit green ???
Not sure if I'm mixing it with Simpsons ice cream, but wasn't there TMNT ice cream as well and it was shit but you just had to have it like everything else TMNT related.
Yes they were so good 🤤😋
Merchandising for this movie was brilliant. They really used the whole "Ooze" thing to its fullest 😆
No word of a lie, I'm 36 and this is still in my top 5 all time favourite films.
I'm with you!
Shame here my top filthteen
Same
Facts bro I'm 37
Me too. You should see my collection im 39 lol. No shame in the TMNT
Shredder being called "Momma" by a giant grotesque turtle and drooling wolf is the best part of the whole movie.
i was so aggravated not to have Bebop, Rocksteady, and Krang! but they were great!
BABIES!!!! THEY'RE BABIES!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!! 🤣🤣
When I let the dogs outside I normally say "Go Play, have fun"
First movie reference isn’t it?
Master say have fun!
@@photonut69 In the first movie Tatsu tells a kid who bumps into him, "Go play." In the second Shredder tells Tokka, and Razar the above line to threaten the turtles.
FUNNN🐺!
“It’s Raph!”
“Yeah...a little TOO Raph!”
My Favorite line 😂😂
As cool as Super Shredder was it kind of sucks that he essentially took himself out at the end of the movie in like 10 seconds.
Yeah, a dock can kill shredder but a garbage truck crushing him cant? 😂
Kevin Nash was scared he would blow out his quad muscle, if he was on screen too much.😉🤣
Yeah I agree “super shredder” deserved a real battle to the end.
@@d_dizzie_druck5753 you are prolly right dude blows his quad with every other step he takes yo
Super Shredder looked great on the big screen. I loved how they had the water glistening off his armor. You're right tho about his death, everybody at the time hated how Super Shredder was killed off in 5 seconds. I still have a faint memory bitching about it to my dad after walking out of theater...but I did like the movie, I was 7 after all.
I had a chance to talk with Judith Hoag a few years ago at Steel City Con. She said she was complaining about the working conditions for the actors, not the violence.
And yes that women has aged like a fine wine. She's actually better looking now than in the movie.
The comment I was looking for :)
That makes sense. The second one was non violent so she would have had nothing to complain about so I always found that unlikely that she wouldn't return for that reason.
Yeah, she looks pretty good for a redhead. I usually don't like looking at redheads because they make my eyes water but she's definitely bearable.
I met Ho Sung Pak at a theater in Chicago, because he was doing publicity for TMNT II, as he was doing the stunt work in the Raphael suit. He was also in Chicago to do all the motion capture for Liu Kang in a little game series called Mortal Kombat
Not just Liu Kang, he also did the motion capture for Shang Tsung, who was the game's final boss.
@@jeremyriley1238 that’s right
Jim Henson thought Turtles was too violent? But yet "Dark Crystal" scared the living crap outta me back then.
i remember watching - then coming out of the theater and doing karate moves in the parking lot!
We ALL did, man, lol...
Turtles didn't do Karate lol 😊
@@gaglet lol ....ninjutsu.....turtles.
I did the karate moves....lol
I honestly thought that the turtles 🐢 in the 90s movies looked way more realistic then the updated movies.
@@sleepinggorilla they really arent though :/ At best they are ok. Cmon. be real. Just because something is fun to watch doesn't mean it's done well. This aint Bloodsport we're talking about. That God Awful nunchucku scene at the end of the first with Splinter defeating Shredder's spear...was So Bad. Splinter's facial animation was ghastly too. Throughout the movie. I love the movie but it's full of directorial mistakes and the fight choreography is ....bland compared to anything made since. (for the most part)
Anchorman brawl was 1000 times more coordinated. And it had no right to be considering it was a situation that had no effect on the story or the characters at all.
today its all wht trash CGI
@Edwin V I have an idea use cgi to enhance not replace the puppets!
@@michaelrodriguez2829 movies/shows that have done this shows that is a happy combo that works well
@@killwalker she’s not the only one with that opinion. Jim Henson‘s turtles looked more real than the CGI and better
Honorable mention Michael Jai White was in this film as a Foot Soldier, if you watch the Wide screen edition you can see him briefly to the right on the scene when keno infiltrates the foot clan as they're going into the warehouse to begin training
Spawn/TMNT movie crossover could have been fun. lol
It's pronounced "Keno"....
@@SlickRick4EVER ok
31 years.... *insert the Santa clause scene where he immediately grows white beard after shaving
This is actually my favorite one outta the whole trilogy
Me too!
Same here! When this movie came out, I was nuts for Vanilla Ice and had a crush on him. (I also had a crush on Michaelangelo, but that's just me.)
Thanks for pointing out that 1991, when I was 10 turning 11, was 30 years ago. I do not feel old at all...
1984 here, I'm 36 😪
I remember seeing the trailer for the first movie and being blown away at the costume work.
@Helping Heroes Hatzidakis Yea, they had a crazy amount of detail. They don't make toys like that anymore unless it's meant for adult collectors.
I went to a Vanilla Ice concert and he brought out TMNT to dance with him.... so I think he’s over it by now. HA
As a kid I remembered I was so disappointed it wasn't as serious as the first
Same here TBH :\
Me too. I still enjoyed it when I was a kid but rewatching those movies as an adult I definitely have a better appreciation for the first one as it was more comic book accurate. Even the story drew inspiration from the comics as well.
At least it's better that number 3
@@CoreyWE oh for sure, to hell with number 3!
Agreed. At the age of 12 I didn't get to see many movies in the theater but I was loving the turtles back then so I had to see that movie. That year I saw 'TMNT 2' and 'The Rocketeer' and I was rather disappointed that 'The Rocketeer' ended up being the better movie.
I'll never forgive all those mouthy parents for pressuring the studio to tone-down the violence, or Eastman and Laird for restricting character availability. We coulda had a better movie, and maybe even a great trilogy.
When I was a kid The Turtles were my childhood. Every birthday my parents would take me to Toys R Us and I would basically spend all my money on every Turtle thing I could get. The documentary Turtle Power is a really good watch. I couldn't wrap my head around how difficult it was to get funding for the Turtles movies considering it was a billion dollar commodity at the time and even though they basically had to scrape about nine million dollars for the first film and it was the biggest movie of that year, Turtles 2 still had to scrap a lot for "budgetary and time constraints." it's bonkers.
30 years ago? FML.
Lololllll! “Could someone think of the poor childrennnn!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂
I was literally on the floor dying! My God I swear I rewind that part 10 times at least! 😭😭😭😭
I love this guy! I’m subscribing ASAP!👍🏽👍🏽
Who didn't love Vanilla Rice in the 1990s?
When the second movie was released I really enjoyed this one more it had everything you wanted in a TMNT movie as a kid. Now that I'm in my 40s I respect the first one for being so faithful to the original comics
I remember seeing the first movie in the theatre...there was so much excitement back then!
Yeah, I liked this one better as a kid. It was a lot more like the cartoon most kids got their first introduction to the turtles from.
Same here. The 2nd one always was my favorite. As a very young kid at the time, it was more appealing being that it's more fun and light hearted than the first. Still is my favorite one to this day, but in all honesty it's only because of the nostalgia I get watching it. If I were to watch both movies for the first time as an adult, the first one definetly would be better
This still looks a million times better than the cgi rubbish they released since
You can’t beat physical effects.
I "like" this comment a million times over
Or TMNT 3...
Yes
I didn't like the two reboot movies
I remember watching secret of the ooze far more than the first movie when I was a kid but man I can barely watch it as an adult where I still thoroughly enjoy the first one.
I know it's your accent but I crack up every time I hear "Vanilla Rice." 😂
they always missed the opportunity to use Dr Jordan as Baxter Stockman and mutate him in the Fly man in the movie, beside the prohibition to use Rocksteady and Bebop, with Tokka e Rahzar instead (they were however awesome too)... He was identical as the cartoon character design! When i was a child indeed always tought he was Baxter with a fake name. Maybe was the same problem as character like Rocksteady and Bebop.
Baxter Stockman was a black guy in every version I’ve seen other than the cartoon.
He was supposed to be a ultrom
Guys, i know. all you said. But THIS movie, was supposed to be more like the cartoon... Was made at prior in the same mood, of the cartoon. And in the cartoon, Baxter is the carbon copy of Professor Jonathan.... same dress, same papillon, same face and same hair/glasses, attire and interpretation. A missed opportunity, so. Or something like Rocksteady and Bebop, staged at prior and later changed in the script thanks the no no by Peter on some characters. Of course, just my idea.. i suppose that... I've never seen a special on the secrets of the movie itself, beside this.. So maybe all is possible, in the end.
True. They also missed using Krang.
Interesting...
“Shredder! You got to listen to reason. You’re going to destroy us all!”
*So be itttttt!*
Don’t Forget where are turtles 🐢
I’m 38. I 100% agree that - growing up - the second version was my favorite but as an adult I like the first version more. Both are excellent, though. If either is on TV you can guarantee I am stopping what I’m doing to watch it.
From this day forward, he shall forever be known as "Vanilla Rice"...
Voniller
Hollywood criticizes anyone who they think should not make any money. They were pissed because all of their movies were not making the margins that this series did.
By the time Secret of the Ooze came out "Vaniller Ice" was already a has-been and a complete joke.
Just thinking about the fact my fiancee and I were 4 and 7 when part 1 came out and went together (we were neighbors and really good friends for that age) to now being engaged and part 2 came out 31 years ago is pretty insane
That's awesome!
@@thedarkknight51 yes! She moved away 4 years later and other than talking once every few years we didnt have a lot of contact. Both got married to other people and year before last i messaged her to ask about something we did as kids and 2 years later the conversation never ended. Last march she took me to my favorite beach and proposed to me on the beach at sunset. I think fate played a huge role in it
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 That's so beautiful glad you both found each other after all these years it was definitely fate.
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 thats a feel good story yo!!
wow that's a really interesting story a true love story
No matter how many times I heard him say vanilla rice I found myself just wanting him to say vanilla rice one more time
oh good it wasn't just me hearing vanilla rice
lmfao
Vaniller Rice. LOL
😁🤣🤣🤣
"The word NINJA was too violence."
Bruh
And parents complain about the violence in the first Teenage mutant ninja turtles movie like what
The first movie was actually mainly based off of the original comics.
Everyone knows that.
I swear some of these stories about the people complaining about the violence makes me cringe everytime
Thirty years later this has only gotten worse thanks to social media.
@@SumDumGy so true
This one was always my favorite as a kid because it felt more like the cartoon.
Yeah, I liked the second TMNT movie even more than the first one at the time because I was 7 and loved the 80s cartoon. I used to wake up every Saturday morning just to watch that cartoon lol. As the years went on though I appreciate the first TMNT movie much more than the second. I loved the boldness and grittiness of it. The lighting and puppets looked amazing. The music and soundtrack was epic asf! Shredder's had one of the best intro themes I think for a villain ever in any movie. Remember the scene where he talks to the foot clan and he gives his speech? Badass. The guy who played Shredder in the first TMNT did a wonderful job I thought. I loved how he spoke/read his lines.
Being a Brit, I remember as a kid seeing the sausage-nunchuck scene on vhs, though it was a long time ago, I'm sure I've seen that scene
same here
Likewise. It must only of been cut on certain home video releases or something? I know it wasn't ever cut out of the film when it was shown on Sky movies cos that's how I used to watch it regularly from recording it off one of the sky movie channels.
@@shockz16 I had on vhs..but i remember that scene
You have... It was never edited out of the UK version, he's wrong 👍
Same here. Maybe it was edited out of the cinema release but added for the VHS release
I always enjoy your videos. This one particularly! I didn't know a lot of these! I don't know if it was my excitement, but... Did I hear you say "Vanilla Rice"?
Ninja Turtles II was the first Turtles movie I saw in the cinema - my parents actually let me and my sister go to a cinema and watch it, which was surprising, given the more adult tone of the first movie - I guess they didn't know anything about it. I was very disappointed by the ending - super Shredder killing himself was a terrible way to end it. I also didn't like vanilla ice and the dance number. I loved pretty much everything else - especially Ernie Reyes Jr. and that is because I was a huge fan of Sidekicks TV show, which he co stared - I immediately recognized his credit in the opening of the movie and I got excited - I love all of his scenes, he has more fight scenes than Turtles have in the movie, and he also has a great plot of sneaking into the ranks of the foot clan. Back then I didn't notice the toned down violence, but it was immediately obvious as soon as I re-watched the original movie on VHS - and this basically killed the sequel for me - I never watched it again, while I re-watched the original probably couple of dozens of times. I never saw the 3rd movie - I just lost interest in TMNT franchise altogether. The mid 90s were a terrible time for sequels - everything was made kid friendly, pg13 and devoid of any excitement. Such a waste.
3rd movie was the worst movie of the franchise...until the remake 😂😅
@@eliashuapilla I never saw any of them - as soon as I saw the terrible designs and humor - It was enough for me to not waste my time. But I very much liked the TMNT 2007 movie - it was pretty cool.
@mateuszkwietowicz2470 some of my little cousins wanted to see it, so we watched it. But I agree with the 2007 movie. That was good
Ah yes. Vanillar Ice.
Secret of the Oourrze. Lol.
Ninjer rap
I unsubbed, I can't take his extra R's anymore
Ultroms
@@greenrobot5 dorn't you think that to be a bit harsh?
@@greenrobot5 So you have a problem with UK and Australian accents? Alrighty then, if that's the hill you want to die on. 🤷♂️
*Thank you for doing a top 10 on this Minty*
"Karens" have been around a long time Minty.
No quads were blown out in the filming of the Super Shredder scene.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not many will understand that but i LOVE IT! 😂😂😂😂
I just found your channel and I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work!
The scene where the turtles find their new layer, the abandoned subway, is classic
I wanted to live there too 😆
Lair. Writing it as “layer” threw me off.
The word classic gets thrown around a little too often these days.
You think even an idiot could find a place down here. But, nooooo...
I hear the sewers in connecticut are really nice
FUN FACT: the Pizza boy was also the boy-prince in RED SONJA, where you can also see him doing martial arts.... Please do RED SONJA.
Red Sonja is so terrible. I love it so much.
Pizza also played in a movie called “the last dragon” he’s a little kid in the movie doing more martial arts and even some break dancing.
Also in Surf ninja
His name is Ernie Reyes Jr, his dad choroegraphed the fights in Surf Ninjas, he was also on Surf Ninjas and The Rundown with The Rock and Sean William Scott. Theh said he has cancer now but haven't heard about hkm in a while, also I am not sure about this but I think he might have been in a movie in mid 1980s called "The Last Dragon" About a Chinese teacher teaching Bruce Leroy a guy who is at the last of a circle of trainging and a medallion supposedly from Bruce Lee. He is a little kid but when he is showing his Ki almost at the end of the movie.
@@SK-jd6gg I have The Last Dragon on dvd
I caught one of the fake pizzas they tossed into the audience at the Concertt😎
Probably would be worth a small fortune now
April trying to Chuck in front of Kino with Mikey sighing is easily one of the 100 things I 💘 in this movie!🎥
This is one of the 30 plus years of TMNT DVD's on my shelf along with an original (complete) party wagon and figures. That party wagon is a hell of a centerpiece, and TMNT Pops make wicked book ends. Also...I flippin WANT that Mars Attacks figure you got haha
"I feel old now" - that's a MOOD.
Lol....all I hear is Vanilla Rice 🤣
Man, I can't say Vanilla Ice anymore, this guy totally changed it for me😂😂😂😂
"...when the evil Shredder attacks." those Turtles Boys dont cut him no slack! Ha. cant believe i still remember that line from the cartoon's theme song
By the laws of English they DO in fact cut him slack, which explains why they never just kill him like in the comics.
@@darrylhamlin7475 okay. I didn't write the theme song. Take it up with Chuck Lorre.
🎶They're the world's most fiersome fighting team,
They're heroes in a half-shell and they're green 🎶
@@aprox23 I think that's why i still remember the lyrics to the theme song; you heard it on the tv and you came running. It was like programming.
@@AlsoCuteAndFLUFFY oh man you aren’t kidding. That song used to really excite me lol
31 y/o here, watched it a couple of months ago. I had to skip through certain parts of dialogue and story development but it was still fantastic to watch.
I really love the analysis towards the end, and throughout, that they missed the mark by toning down the violence. As someone who was born in '89 and grew up with a ton of 80s influences since I have a sister who is 6 years older than me, and a brother who is 4 years older than me, I got a lot of the hand me downs. And growing up I never could distinguish what it was that was particularly different about them(the 1st and 2nd TMNT live action movies), since the internet was still in development and the times were just different from the flow of instant access to endless information we have available today. But it really was the dark tone from the first one that keeps it relevant today. The Turtle's even went through existential crisis' and battled depression in the first movie when they lost Splinter like he was already dead. Raph goes looking for a fight as is his coping mechanism and stumbles across Casey Jones who easily had the popularity to return to this movie and could have played a relavant role to Keno and played the double agent line getting caught up by The Foot.
The second one obviously paces better, but that doesn't always make it a better movie, just easier to watch and digest. The second one has a lot of fantastic elements, but I'm left to wonder at 18:46 just how fucking cool that fight scene would have been, and just all the fight scenes and the overall intensity of the movie if it followed the first movie more thematically. When you said you should do right by your fans and ignore your critics, the example you gave is the one that has ever made the most sense to me. Its still a gem in my eyes, but I was also like ~5 the first time I watched it, but when I did watch it again I really enjoyed it for what it was, a well put together film that predates CGI and does fantastic with this element that was pretty much entirely experimental. But the lack of grit, violence, and a real sense of danger and possible defeat were missing from the second film. Because just about everything else was fantastic. Even April got so much cuter.
Fantastic analysis
Jesus. All that for TMNT?
Hi mark, big fan! I've been watching your videos for a long time now! Really enjoy them! I'm from liverpool, and spent my youth absolutely loving everything about the 80s! Keep up the good work squire!!!👍👍👍😁😁
30 years ago? I saw that in the theater. I feel old now too, thanks Minty.
me too and i saw it the day before easter in theaters, which is today
It’s actually a myth that Ninja was considered too violent a word in the UK. It was changed as Yardley had a men’s fragrance range named Ninja and when the comics came out they sued as they owned a trademark. As the publisher couldn’t afford to fight the case they switched to hero.
As for nunchucks a kid strangled a friend with homemade ones after seeing Bruce Lee in the 70s. There was a blanket ban till ‘97.
This makes more sense
Got to love the idea that you can trademark a concept like "ninja"
Thanks for shedding light on this. Makes much more sense now knowing this context.
Never knew that, can't believe they banned blankets too.
Whatever the UK thing was it had wider influence, I remember that some products here in Finland had Hero too but some still had Ninja and always thought that violence was the reason.
Actually I have more info on the subplot on the revelation of the Ooze, yes we were going to get the Utrom but here's the rest of it.
You remember the end fight in which Kino kicks the canister of Ooze away from Shredder and Professor Jordan Perry just gets it and leaves? Well it was going to reveal in a scene in which he's in the restroom and he opens up his shirt and a brain creature is inside his chest cavity, revealing that Jordan Perry is actually a Utrom from Dimension X.
Heck when the Turtles are in TGRI (instead of TCRI from the comics) if you pay attention to the entire lab specifically the center piece that is a glass pyramid, you can already see a Utrom in there.
It's a shame that the subplot was not further explored because they thought it was "too weird", if you want to watch a video on the subject The Old Turtle Den did a video on the deleted subplot.
Yes this is accurate. I heard about that sometime ago but I'd forgotten till you just reminded me. I really wish they would have taken the time and made it the way they originally planned! How great that would have been!
@@jayfonz5765 Right?! Kids would be talking about that ending and would convince their friends to tell their parents to see this movie, that means a sequel with the Turtles in space would've been epic.
Thank you for the information. I’ll check that video out.
Hey Minty, could you please please please do Idiocracy? Super relevant to the current era. Scarily so in fact!
I love that movie. And you're so right.
I remember growing up and loving Ninja Turtles including the live action.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze s my all-time favorite TMT movie.
Let’s hope the costumes make a long-awaited comeback! 🐢
The professor was supposed to be an Utrom and I *think* they even filmed a scene revealing this.
As far as I know they never filmed the scene. But it was scripted and storyboarded.
@@orinanime Thanks. I wasn't sure how far they went into production with that plot point. Would definitely have added some weight to a pretty thin storyline.
@@Awesoman Part of the reason the revel of Professor Jordan being an Utrom was never filmed was due to the fact that Krang from the Fred Wolf cartoon is visually based on the Utroms(despite his race being a different one) from the Mirage comic books, and the filmmakers did not want to confuse children viewing the film.
i used to have the Rahzar figure. But it was a different one then you showed. It could aslo transform to a "normal" looking wolf
Is this the same Vanillar Rice that guest starred on Lar and Order?
😂😂
Vanilla Rice?!
The first movie is brilliant. Even as a kid seeing all these new, I couldn’t stomach either sequel. I’ve never seen either of them more than once.
Haha I keep hearing "Vaniller ice"
Minty I too feel old knowing it's been 30 years since TMNT 2 come out especially seeing I saw it in the cinema
I was like 12yrs old
@@robd1329 i was 8
yeah and i'm about to be 30 years old
@@marlonclark1896 ha you're a youngen lol
@@badtouch7340 i'll take it as a compliment
I remember reading that the original April O'Neil actress got replaced in the sequel because she asked for more money.
Hey, it's Vaniller Ice!
haha i had fun watching this man, you nailed it at the end when you talked about just staying true to your core fans instead of trying to please everyone. This same rationale could be applied to video games as well when they make sequels or changes/updates. Anyways good stuff me :D
Love your Judge Judy tee!
The way u say “verniller” ice is like nails on a chalkboard lol.
vanilla rice
vanilla rice
It's funny that Krang wasn't in the sequel. There was a similar brain like villain in THE BRAIN in 1988.
@Tyrone Kinard Yup, and Krang was not an Utrom. In the cartoon Krang was a different alien race, but his look was based on the Utroms.
It was lighter and goofier but somehow still felt cool and still in-line enough with the first film, pretty much still a continuation and feeling like a big change in tone.
love the vids man! I always send them to my dad to watch since he was an 80s kid and I just watched a lot of the same shows he did and I was a huge Thundercats fan!
I still say that the first one is the only good Turtles movie to date.
You’re correct for doing so. At 43, I own the first film. I saw the sequels new and never bothered watching either of them more than once. I’ve never even considered watching the Bay films.
I'd say you're being awfully nice even calling the first one good. The movie shat all over what the Turtles were meant to be.
Jeff Spain, That might make it a bad adaptation. It doesn’t make it a bad movie. For those who have no experience with the source material, it doesn’t matter.
Is it intentional, that you call Vanilla Ice - "Vanilla Rise"?
I think its Vaniller Rice. Two "R's"
I thought he was saying Vaniler Ice lol.
Vanilla rice
@@revilo304 rice rice gravy
Vaniller ice
I’m from London and can vouch for the censorship of mikeys nunchuku in the show
But I remember the movie channel on sky showing the scene with the “combat cold cuts”
The scene was in
I'm from the UK, and I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the Michelangelo scene with the salami nunchucks when I was a kid on both TV and VHS. Me and my friends used to joke about it a lot
Same here, I had the VHS and the nunchucks scene is definitely in there. Same for the cartoon, although it is called hero turtles, it has the nunchucks.
It is remember michelangelo shouting COMBAT COLD CUTS!!!😆😆
Go ninja go ninja go ninja go was the jam back in the day.