I've been looking for an EV for some time and yesterday took the plunge. We put the $1000 down on a BYD Seal. Every day I look there seems to be a better option just around the corner but sooner or later you just need to commit. I think the Seal ticks a lot of boxes so fingers crossed on buying a car sight unseen. Enjoy your channel especially being from Perth myself. Cheers.
Thank you! The infrastructure is moving rapidly in Australia. In fact around the world hundreds of EV Charging stations are being built every week. Coupled with the billions of dollars annually going into battery research, and the improvement of new EVS in general, it's a no brainer to choose an EV in all but those who live in the most remote of places
There's a video out about a woman who went from Perth to Sydney in an Atto3. I was silly enough to take mine from Brisbane to Adelaide and back via Melbourne. I made a video without showing any scenery. When we went to get the Ampol app on our phone, it wouldn't work because our android version was too new. I hope they have fixed that, but Ampol was generous enough to not leave us stranded, and gave us a free charge. Kudos to Ampol. Next trip to Sydney soon, so I will have to try the app before I go. I would never use a granny charger, not even at home. Disappointed that my Zappi has an eco+ feature that the BYD can't use because when it cuts out due to solar drops, the BYD won't let it automatically restart. It means you have to not use the feature and pay more from the grid on the eco mode. I hope BYD can rectify this with an OTA instead of just giving us things like karaoke.
9:25 so with 52% battery and 252 kms of range the total range for this trip since fill up is 500 kms not bad considering most of it is highway driving.
Tq for the guidance video. I saw you used Michelin tyres on your ATTO3, is it the best tyres for ATTO3, does the tyre helps in ensuring long last batt or would you recommend other brands?
The jury is out on the Tyre. As I changed the tyres immediately after buying, I have no reference for economy. But I suspect there is little difference, as it seems to be the same as my wife when I'm driving without a trailer. Honestly they are a little disappointing! I still have some wheel spin. When I upgrade I would go something different. My brother has Hankook's on his Tesla and he says they are great, but his is an AWD so who knows?
Great video, the green looks very nice, a soft green. If I configure the car online the green looks darker. Is it as soft as it looks in the video? I need a light color because I'm moving to sunny Spain soon.
the wall charger has not only to change the amps as you called it but also to add the other 2 phases cause in the beginning you were charging single phase only. That automatic switch of a wall charger is usually needed in surplus charging environments where your car should only be charged with surplus power from the roof and nothing or close to nohting from the grid. And then there are modes required where you only use a single phase when the sun is going down. The lowest charging speed at 1,2 kW is usually too low and can only be achieved by using 1 phase of your 3 phase installation which the charger showed as L1 to L3. If you charge with 1,2 kW only 1 phase is running at a very low AMP setting and usually it is not that beneficial cause you have to take into consideration that the car is alive while charging and draining the battery . The idle consumption while charging can be up to 500 W or 0,5 kW so your 1,2 kW charging is in reality after losses a 0,7 kW charging which does not make any sense cause you loose already 50% considering the additional charging losses. We try to avoid that and only charge above 3 kW in surplus mode when we charge only using solar power from the roof. Otherwise after 1 year or so and doing the accounting you will cover a 20 kWh / hkm consumption figure while the car was only showing 15 kWh. And those 5 kWh are caused by the slow charging at home which many people tend to forget. If your charger shows you 20 kWh charged in 5 hours that would mean, thtat 2,5 kWh could have been needed for car in idle mode charging and then 10% losses which you can recognice as heat near to the engine and inverter , which would mean 2 kWh lost (cause the DC from the panels are converted to AC by the home inverter and then goes through your wallbox as AC into the cars inverter that is converting that into DC to charge the battery via the charge controller, which all heat up and are causing losses. And that is the reason why the home charger is showing a gross charging only cause it can not count the losses while the fast charging is a dc fast charging without any inverter and transformation, only running through the charger. Therefore you nearly pay only what you got into the battery while fast charging due to far less losses. But at home you will have used 20 kWh (from the pov of the wallbox) and gotten 15,5 kWh into the battery and therefore range increased only by 100 km from that home charging session. We track the full consumption of the EV based on what the wallbox feeds in and the fastchargers cause only then you can compare those figures with ICE bills from the gas station. Therefore try to limit your wallbox to charge the car only with 3 kW or more cause you can save losses and use the saved kWh somewhere else.
It has some ground clearance so a gravel / dirt road is fine. Wouldn't want to be too muddy though! An AWD drive version would be good, but that will probably be a different vehicle
gas stations are the worst spots for charging. Who wants to hang out at a crappy 7/11 for an hour. Chargers need to be at the beach, or by cafes or at swimming pools and train stations etc but of course they're only really supplementary to home charging.
Nice video... got my BYD Seal on order , can't wait to do a roadtrip as well : P
That's a great car too! Enjoy!
👍one of my dream car but pricey in Australian market (if tick all the options)😞
@@MsLw6621 compared to the model 3, the seal price is actually pretty competitive
I've been looking for an EV for some time and yesterday took the plunge. We put the $1000 down on a BYD Seal. Every day I look there seems to be a better option just around the corner but sooner or later you just need to commit. I think the Seal ticks a lot of boxes so fingers crossed on buying a car sight unseen. Enjoy your channel especially being from Perth myself. Cheers.
Thanks! Agree there reaches a tipping point when you just have to commit. For me it was the EV highway stations opening up!@@stevelaw-davis4043
Excellet video. Who said that EVs cannot go anywhere! Amazing that you took the Atto3 to all these places.
Whoever said that are foo ls . Ev only for me. Hindustan south.
Thank you! The infrastructure is moving rapidly in Australia. In fact around the world hundreds of EV Charging stations are being built every week. Coupled with the billions of dollars annually going into battery research, and the improvement of new EVS in general, it's a no brainer to choose an EV in all but those who live in the most remote of places
Thanks for the video - enjoy the Atto! The security/charging lock is configurable in the settings.
Thanks!
Great video. Thanks so much. Earned a sub
Awesome, thank you!
There's a video out about a woman who went from Perth to Sydney in an Atto3. I was silly enough to take mine from Brisbane to Adelaide and back via Melbourne. I made a video without showing any scenery. When we went to get the Ampol app on our phone, it wouldn't work because our android version was too new. I hope they have fixed that, but Ampol was generous enough to not leave us stranded, and gave us a free charge. Kudos to Ampol. Next trip to Sydney soon, so I will have to try the app before I go. I would never use a granny charger, not even at home. Disappointed that my Zappi has an eco+ feature that the BYD can't use because when it cuts out due to solar drops, the BYD won't let it automatically restart. It means you have to not use the feature and pay more from the grid on the eco mode. I hope BYD can rectify this with an OTA instead of just giving us things like karaoke.
Your initial leg you say you had travelled about 100km / 61 miles and it took 30% of your battery. that suggests a total range of 180 miles/ 360km
9:25 so with 52% battery and 252 kms of range the total range for this trip since fill up is 500 kms not bad considering most of it is highway driving.
Good on you thanks
Thanks!
Tq for the guidance video. I saw you used Michelin tyres on your ATTO3, is it the best tyres for ATTO3, does the tyre helps in ensuring long last batt or would you recommend other brands?
The jury is out on the Tyre. As I changed the tyres immediately after buying, I have no reference for economy. But I suspect there is little difference, as it seems to be the same as my wife when I'm driving without a trailer. Honestly they are a little disappointing! I still have some wheel spin. When I upgrade I would go something different. My brother has Hankook's on his Tesla and he says they are great, but his is an AWD so who knows?
Nice ev.
Thank you!
Great video, the green looks very nice, a soft green. If I configure the car online the green looks darker. Is it as soft as it looks in the video? I need a light color because I'm moving to sunny Spain soon.
Thank you! It's not that dark the green, in real life you can see that. Otherwise White is good in a hot climate. Good luck!
the wall charger has not only to change the amps as you called it but also to add the other 2 phases cause in the beginning you were charging single phase only.
That automatic switch of a wall charger is usually needed in surplus charging environments where your car should only be charged with surplus power from the roof and nothing or close to nohting from the grid. And then there are modes required where you only use a single phase when the sun is going down. The lowest charging speed at 1,2 kW is usually too low and can only be achieved by using 1 phase of your 3 phase installation which the charger showed as L1 to L3. If you charge with 1,2 kW only 1 phase is running at a very low AMP setting and usually it is not that beneficial cause you have to take into consideration that the car is alive while charging and draining the battery .
The idle consumption while charging can be up to 500 W or 0,5 kW so your 1,2 kW charging is in reality after losses a 0,7 kW charging which does not make any sense cause you loose already 50% considering the additional charging losses.
We try to avoid that and only charge above 3 kW in surplus mode when we charge only using solar power from the roof.
Otherwise after 1 year or so and doing the accounting you will cover a 20 kWh / hkm consumption figure while the car was only showing 15 kWh.
And those 5 kWh are caused by the slow charging at home which many people tend to forget.
If your charger shows you 20 kWh charged in 5 hours that would mean, thtat 2,5 kWh could have been needed for car in idle mode charging and then 10% losses which you can recognice as heat near to the engine and inverter , which would mean 2 kWh lost (cause the DC from the panels are converted to AC by the home inverter and then goes through your wallbox as AC into the cars inverter that is converting that into DC to charge the battery via the charge controller, which all heat up and are causing losses.
And that is the reason why the home charger is showing a gross charging only cause it can not count the losses while the fast charging is a dc fast charging without any inverter and transformation, only running through the charger. Therefore you nearly pay only what you got into the battery while fast charging due to far less losses.
But at home you will have used 20 kWh (from the pov of the wallbox) and gotten 15,5 kWh into the battery and therefore range increased only by 100 km from that home charging session. We track the full consumption of the EV based on what the wallbox feeds in and the fastchargers cause only then you can compare those figures with ICE bills from the gas station.
Therefore try to limit your wallbox to charge the car only with 3 kW or more cause you can save losses and use the saved kWh somewhere else.
Great trip, and good to see some of the places along the way. How is it driving the BYD around Kalgoorlie? Does it handle the bush tracks alright?
It has some ground clearance so a gravel / dirt road is fine. Wouldn't want to be too muddy though! An AWD drive version would be good, but that will probably be a different vehicle
@@findinggspots6441 Ah cool. Thanks for the response. Might have to look into the atto 3 for the future
It's normal for the DC charger cable to lock to the car, in fact my Tesla HPWC locks to the car as well.
Yep, but I pointed out it doesn't lock on my car- which is a Mitsubishi PHEV, and what I am used to
Is that because it's a PHEV and not an EV? @@findinggspots6441
Please dubbing in HINDI LANGUAGE 😂
If your Eski is strapped to the passenger seat, where's the wife?
My wife had to get back to work so she flew home a couple of days before!
👍All good. Green color look very nice ! maybe much sought after. How much is your Atto3 drive away? look forward to a 0-100 test next video. Thanks.😬
So my wife had window tinting done as well, so I think it was around $55k DA. Will get 3500 back on EV rebate
I'll wait til I get mine before doing a 0 to 100..😂. I'm getting one too....very soon!
Well done.
Cheers!
Can't wait for the days every gas station throughout Australia has EV chargers then I may consider buying an EV for the family.
Doesn't bother me, I charge 99% at home using solar😂
gas stations are the worst spots for charging. Who wants to hang out at a crappy 7/11 for an hour. Chargers need to be at the beach, or by cafes or at swimming pools and train stations etc but of course they're only really supplementary to home charging.
The reason to get an EV is to not go to a gas station in the first place!
I like this car a lot. Your wife has good taste.
Well she married me...😁