@@andzc9230 Fake sales of Chinese EVs Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD Sep 10 2022 In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why? Because of over government subsidies.
Depends on your locale though. Wouldn't MG be an absolute bugbear to ever repair because they use shitty imperial measurements for parts? Rover and Mini were infamous for that.
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
@@michellet2890 Fake sales of Chinese EVs Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD Sep 10 2022 In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why? Because of over government subsidies.
You have become my favorite EV reviewer, and it's fantastic that you happen to be a local reviewer as well. Thank you so much for the insightful comparison.
At last! Someone who genuinely knows about the mechanics of cars! So many EV reviews are done by people who know absolutely nothing. I'm an avid fan of EVs, I own a 2022 MG ZS EV as it was the only EV in the UK that came anywhere near my budget. When I showed it to my colleagues at work, one of them went out and bought the MG 5! The BYD does look fantastic, I hear that they're coming to the UK in 2023. I've got three children, 11, 10 and 7. I use to have an MPV which fitted the children perfectly. I'm desperate to get another MPV, but I'm making do until they're reasonably priced and not based on a van.
Well, they're there now as the EU and UK rollout is simultaneous. The problem is the UK government put a huge 25% tariff on them to sabotage the competition and increase prices, so the value-for-money ratio is entirely distorted by government meddling.
Charging port location is a localized preference. Australians might love to forward park, but there are many Asian cars that prefers reverse parking. Some locations also require reverse parking only for safety reasons. therefore a side-mounted charging caters for both forward and reverse charge.
In the BYD it helps in the daytime if you switch the screen to daytime mode, then you can easily see the numbers etc on the screen. You seem to drive around with the screen in night mode, not a good idea if you want to read it.
The Byd regen braking is also used with the brake pedal, if you look at the regen value whilst pushing on the break peddle it increases the negative value
Thanks for answering this to me. I saw alot of people, reviewers, saying this is not one pedal driving and they wish for the car to have more regen when not pressing the "gas" pedals. What you have said, means, this might come in a next firmware update or this is just as it is. I need to have more regen when braking from a big cliff, not wasting the brakes and loss that regen.
I really enjoy your reviews, keep up the good work. However one of my gripes about EV reviews in general is that battery chemistry is rarely discussed and virtually never mentioned as a reason to buy a particular model. Here we have the BYD Atto 3 with an LFP battery. The benefits from this chemistry over Lithium ion are considerable - no rare metals being extracted using child labour - 3 times the cycle life - lower degredation with use - likes to be charged to 100% - no issues with thermal runaway so it won't catch fire I can't help but feel that these advantages need to be mentioned. If we are buying EV's to lower our carbon footprint then a battery that lasts 3 times as long makes a huge difference to the carbon footprint of the vehicle over its lifetime.
i ve test driven both recently. BYD feels more like an electric car. kinda more grounded. probably becus it is heavier too. but really feels like a different kind of machine. MG seems more spacious inside and seems to have slightly quicker response. maybe byd has some traction control going on. MG dealers dont really care to sell it , its like if you wont buy someone else will. but BYD guy spent a lot of time explaining each and every thing about the car.
I am from Costa Rica and having talked to the guys at MG, noticed exactly the same and that worries me as I want a great customer service but that attitude does not help.
I can relate to that. i nearly was willing to spend 50k for MG Phev. anyway i went for a different type of vehicle and brand later. very happy with it.@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834
This is one of the best and funniest review videos ever. I already knew I wanted the ATTO3, but I watched your video to the end, because it was so engaging and funny. Well done!
Hi Gavin, ove the show. The problem you're having with the Byd's cruise control is it's set at 30 automatically. If you click up, it starts at 30kph. However, if you click down, it will start at the speed you're travelling at. As with you, I was quite nervous every time I set it. A comment on a phone call to BYD (about tyres) set me straight. A big relief. P.S. any chance of doing a piece on EV tyres. I'm finding it impossible to find out choices in OZ (the Atlas tyres on my Atto 3 seem fine, however a named brand might be quieter,more comfortable and give me more confidence when we get to winter). 10 different tyre retailers and not a single informed reply. It seems that no-one in OZ knows. NZ seems much further advanced in EV's than us... so maybe you'll have better luck.
I would go for a set of Michelin Primacy s on the Atto. They are not a dedicated EV tyre but you won't be losing much range and gain a lot over the Batmans. I am trashing the Atto to wear out the tyres as soon as possible 😂 (joking)
I've seen "EV tyres" advertised but they are only for bigger wheels, could go for a bigger rim with smaller sidewall but unsure how that would affect comfort
I think there is a misconception with the BYD regen braking. I test drove a BYD and it appears the regen increases with the brake pedal. It is set up to add more regen when you press the pedal and far before it engages the actual brakes. I might be totally wrong on this but I think this is just the way they designed it to integrate with the brakes and not be set up for single pedal driving. You can see the regen amount increase as you touch the brake pedal to test this.
@@blueosaka2553 BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs . BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative. BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂 My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
For me, the BYD was available while the MG not (in Thailand). But besides, one advantage of BYD is that you can disconnect it from the internet in you want (good against hacking and big brother).
own an mg and we absolutely love it. would have greatly considered byd if the price point for nz is the same as oz but they opt not to match it unlike mg
we don't have much rebate, 3k in South Australia, but other states have withdrawn theirs, as it was 'costing to much' . Don't believe that, more likely that the Fossil fuel lobby got influence.
Been looking forward to this one! You're fantastically entertanining, to the point i'm not allowed to watch these until the gf is here (even if we arent getting an ev yet. Keep up the awesome videos :)
Champion report! Wish Aussies could do such a quality report. I mean, details like measuring width of rear seat. NOBODY does that here across the ditch.
I like your review so much. Looking forward to your next video. There is one thing I want to correct, though it is not very important. Brake plate stop doesn't It means they're more efficient. You can try driving BYD, braking, and not braking on the same road. The energy recovery shown on the dashboard is different. So being able to stop the car by releasing the brakes doesn't mean they're more efficient.
Fake sales of Chinese EVs Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD Sep 10 2022 In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why? Because of over government subsidies. BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs . BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative. BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂 My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
Another brilliant review. Already subscribed, can't wait for the next vid. Best wishes Gav. Been waiting since March 2022 for our MG LR Trophy for the wife, its Dec 24th 2022!! I already own a Kona EV so we will be all electric when it arrives.
With the mg, instead of going through the screen to turn the lane tracing on, you can just pull the cruise control stalk quickly towards for autonomous steering you twice to enable mg pilot, as I think the lane cantering in the screen is just to assist the driver. Don’t quote me but I think there’s a difference. Great review!
Pilot software is illegal in the entire EU though. If you ever have an accident that way you'll face full liability, if you're unlucky criminal charges as not being in control of the vehicle equals reckless driving.
@@therealkrisjenner If you want to get killed by idiots smashing uncontrolled cars into you then that's your business, obviously. I don't much feel like dying, or having my kids murdered because some corporation wants to make money off of broken beta software.
I enjoyed this video, great gags. I am more excited for the next vechicals from these two manufacturers MG M4 and the BYD Seal which are much more drivers cars and less family cars. I will also give the Dolphin a test drive.
Best review of any EV I’ve seen anywhere! Wish all the reviewers here in the UK had a fraction of your enthusiasm, passion, and humour in their reviews! Now to go through your other videos and find a review of the ioniq 5 I’m considering or whether to save some quids and go for atto
Best comparison ever !! Thank you. And you measure width of the backseat, which i have been looking for, but never done by anyone else ! Requesting comparison Atto 3 vs Omoda E5 please 🙏 These are the 2 top picks for me
I loved the review. I have had MG ZS EV for 18 months now and really love it. Was a little worried about the range and was tempted to trade up to BYD but the interior of BYD is a deal breaker for me. I must be old fashioned but interior makes me feel uncomfortable.
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
Atto3 high regen mode seems to take a little while to kick in after you toggle it. Your stop test may have still been using standard. It is reasonably weak though but brakes peddle also uses regen.
In Sweden, by price, the BYD Atto 3 should be compared to the MG Marvel R, the Marvel R is cheaper though…so interesting that the price point differs so much between countries
good video and covers everything ya need to know before deciding, ya dont half rattle on a bit, but none of it boring and ya get all points across well, many thanks
Nice review. In The Netherlands however I would compare the BYD to the ZS EV Long range. That would tip the scales a bit. Looking at affordability I would go for the MG, when purely looking at design I would take the BYD.
Another great video, thanks Gavin. Just one comment, I'd love to know a little more on the battery specs of each car - kWh and battery chemistry. Doesn't the Atto 3 have LFP blade batteries with 100% depth of discharge? A great feature. I'm not sure what the MG has. It would be good to include this info as part of future reviews.
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
@@AegisHyperon BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs . BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative. BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂 My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
Good video, but the MG lane keep assist is not required for MG Pilot to work, if you set up MGP correctly you just need to pull the stalk to you twice to start it, after you have switched on ACC.
Really loving these videos, interesting detail about the MG's battery warranty, although I like the BYD better. I wonder if the BYD would give more forgiving handling with a better set of tyres than the stock ones
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
@@badchefi You can copy the date and address plus BYD keywords to search 1月26日上海 1月28日福建三明 2月13日广州中山 3月23日浙江杭州 3月25日上海 4月2日广州韶关 4月15日海南三亚 5月28日广州深圳 5月31日上海 6月6日广西贵港 6月6日广东佛山 6月12日广东珠海 6月14日上海 6月26日深圳平湖 7月9日广西南宁 7月21日汉中西乡 8月1日深圳龙岗大道 8月16日四川 9月29日成都碧桂园 11月15日河南南阳
This was a lively and informative car review. Thanks for the details and looking forward to a proper charging comparison on these cars. Just subed. Keep on driving!!!
There is no one pedal driving mode in BYD, but your regen still works. Theres is an electrical braking system which uses both regen and traditional brakes to stop/slow the car, and the system itself decides when to use each of them) Many people still prefer two pedal driving, so its normal for new EV drivers)
Thanks, fo an excellent review - very well done. The Kiwis are so much further ahead in EV's than Hicksville Aust. Thanks to 9 years of an EV-hating Liberal Govt here. Id go for the BYD Atto even though I prefer the interior of the MG. Driving range is very important in Aust. which is why Id go for BYD. Id like a spare tyre though.
You should have put real-world range not WLTP range. The Atto 3 is getting AA/AC VERY soon within 1-2 weeks. I'd dispute the charge port winner, the front means a front end collision and your charge port is out of action totally that goes for any EV with it in the front the side is a better position particularly as many fender benders are front or back not side. Should have added efficiency to your ratings, based on ev-database figures the MG is: 181 Wh/km (real world range 270km), BYD is: 188 Wh/km (real world range 320km) currently these are estimates for both.
yea that's what i thought as well when i test driven the MG. not sure what they're thinking putting it there, any common frontal impact will see the car unable to charge. most EVs have it on the side in higher position just like ICE car fuel doors that rarely gets hit.
in a front end collision the battery+motor is probably damaged and airbags deployed... not going to be able to drive in any car with a front motor might as well put the charging port in a convenient location so you don't need to take up 3 car parks to charge
@@AegisHyperon You make no sense. front end collisions don't always end with catastrophic damage. my Tesla charging from the back side doesn't take 3 car parks to charge. wtf you on about??
Thanks for your videos, in relation to adaptive cruise control, how the byd atto 3 works with slow traffic, let's stop and start by itself, I know the Mg works very well. Thanks again.
Good video and comparison. I also like your presentation style a lot. I am on the waiting list for a Toyota Prius Prime so I am going on the Plug In Hybrid route.
Actually, adaptive cruise in BYD is working well if you know how. Lean assist warning is good, but to let it take over partly the lane assist, feels scary.
Well organized review. Cover pretty much all aspects. Subscribed. Continue great work. We in North America has very little choice and need to wait for 18 months or more for an EV or hybrid vehicle. Sad. What I want is "take my dollars and give me the Atto 3".
BYD are just about to launch in the UK (March 2023). The "cheapest" UK Atto 3 is reported to be £36,990 for the mid range Comfort & £38,990 for the top spec Design model. A "cheaper" Active model comes later this year at £36,490. All three are too expensive & even the base model is some £3,500 more than the top spec MG ZS EV 1 year old second hand versions of which are now available at £25k. However, MG changed the spec of the ZS last year which no longer comes with a Pano roof which is standard on the UK Atto 3. Personally I prefer the look of the Atto 3 which has safer LFP Blade batteries. In comparison the ZS looks top heavy & a bit goofy with it's undersized wheels. BYD need a smaller 5 door hatch EV in their range (MG4 size). Not everyone wants or needs an SUV.
Neither vehicle has "one pedal driving". They are not designed or able to come to a complete stop on lift off, and in the case of the BYD it really just coasts when you lift off. Vehicles which DO have one pedal driving (Google search) include: Audi e-tron | Cadillac Lyriq. Chevrolet Bolt EV/EUV | Ford F-150 Lightning. Ford Mustang Mach-E | Hyundai Kona EV. Kia EV6 | Nissan Leaf. Tesla Model S | Volvo XC40. Polestar 2.
One pedal drive is dangerous to over 50’s. People easily get confused with a break pedal and it will cause car accident. People need to have two option to choose before getting used to have one pedal driving.
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The MG is an overwhelming value. Especially with the unlimited mileage warranty. Well done Gavin.
we own one and we loving it
@@andzc9230 Fake sales of Chinese EVs
Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD
Sep 10 2022
In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why?
Because of over government subsidies.
Depends on your locale though. Wouldn't MG be an absolute bugbear to ever repair because they use shitty imperial measurements for parts?
Rover and Mini were infamous for that.
Both are horrific
The mg is crap and the warranty not worth the paper it’s written on.
What a great review. You kiwis are so far ahead in the EV race compared to Australia
I do see a lot these cars on aus qld roads. A lot of good reviews for BYD
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
But Australia already has apple CarPlay instead of us 😭
@@michellet2890 Fake sales of Chinese EVs
Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD
Sep 10 2022
In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why?
Because of over government subsidies.
How many charging piles are there in your city?
You have become my favorite EV reviewer, and it's fantastic that you happen to be a local reviewer as well. Thank you so much for the insightful comparison.
At last! Someone who genuinely knows about the mechanics of cars! So many EV reviews are done by people who know absolutely nothing. I'm an avid fan of EVs, I own a 2022 MG ZS EV as it was the only EV in the UK that came anywhere near my budget.
When I showed it to my colleagues at work, one of them went out and bought the MG 5!
The BYD does look fantastic, I hear that they're coming to the UK in 2023.
I've got three children, 11, 10 and 7. I use to have an MPV which fitted the children perfectly. I'm desperate to get another MPV, but I'm making do until they're reasonably priced and not based on a van.
Well, they're there now as the EU and UK rollout is simultaneous. The problem is the UK government put a huge 25% tariff on them to sabotage the competition and increase prices, so the value-for-money ratio is entirely distorted by government meddling.
Didn't mention byd bursting into fire all over china.
Love the Potato test! Game changer in car reviews. Thanks for this. 👌
BYD is the winner , it just looks so much better especially the interior. A bit more expensive, but a whole lot more value.
I went through the same process myself in Australia and I agree, and bought the Atto 3.
Charging port location is a localized preference. Australians might love to forward park, but there are many Asian cars that prefers reverse parking. Some locations also require reverse parking only for safety reasons. therefore a side-mounted charging caters for both forward and reverse charge.
Off the bat I like the BYD best , but choosing between them isn’t easy at all .
if you dont care about the Chinese taste of design just go for the byd, but if you like more the VW and UK design go for the MG.
In the BYD it helps in the daytime if you switch the screen to daytime mode, then you can easily see the numbers etc on the screen. You seem to drive around with the screen in night mode, not a good idea if you want to read it.
Boring as car brands.
@andreasl4507 what's as boring as car brands? What does that even mean lol how are car brands boring?
What a great review. I think BYD is best with all features and it gives the best mileage.
The Byd regen braking is also used with the brake pedal, if you look at the regen value whilst pushing on the break peddle it increases the negative value
Thanks for answering this to me. I saw alot of people, reviewers, saying this is not one pedal driving and they wish for the car to have more regen when not pressing the "gas" pedals.
What you have said, means, this might come in a next firmware update or this is just as it is. I need to have more regen when braking from a big cliff, not wasting the brakes and loss that regen.
Everywhere else in the world the MG ZS EV has 470 liters..with the floor at the lowest point 👌
colour me impressed by the BYD but I think I still stick with the MG - the price wins it for me
I really enjoy your reviews, keep up the good work. However one of my gripes about EV reviews in general is that battery chemistry is rarely discussed and virtually never mentioned as a reason to buy a particular model. Here we have the BYD Atto 3 with an LFP battery. The benefits from this chemistry over Lithium ion are considerable
- no rare metals being extracted using child labour
- 3 times the cycle life
- lower degredation with use
- likes to be charged to 100%
- no issues with thermal runaway so it won't catch fire
I can't help but feel that these advantages need to be mentioned. If we are buying EV's to lower our carbon footprint then a battery that lasts 3 times as long makes a huge difference to the carbon footprint of the vehicle over its lifetime.
These are all good things, but the current version of the MG ZS has a (50.3kWh) LFP battery too, so it's not a point of difference.
i ve test driven both recently. BYD feels more like an electric car. kinda more grounded. probably becus it is heavier too. but really feels like a different kind of machine. MG seems more spacious inside and seems to have slightly quicker response. maybe byd has some traction control going on. MG dealers dont really care to sell it , its like if you wont buy someone else will. but BYD guy spent a lot of time explaining each and every thing about the car.
I am from Costa Rica and having talked to the guys at MG, noticed exactly the same and that worries me as I want a great customer service but that attitude does not help.
We know someone who has bought a ZS EV, and was totally disgusted with the 'bimbo's' salesperson, and they told the car can do 400km plus.
I can relate to that. i nearly was willing to spend 50k for MG Phev. anyway i went for a different type of vehicle and brand later. very happy with it.@@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834
Chose the MG for its great value. A well balanced comparison. Kudos!
This is one of the best and funniest review videos ever. I already knew I wanted the ATTO3, but I watched your video to the end, because it was so engaging and funny. Well done!
Thanks mate! You rock! -Gav
Hi Gavin, ove the show. The problem you're having with the Byd's cruise control is it's set at 30 automatically. If you click up, it starts at 30kph. However, if you click down, it will start at the speed you're travelling at. As with you, I was quite nervous every time I set it. A comment on a phone call to BYD (about tyres) set me straight. A big relief.
P.S. any chance of doing a piece on EV tyres. I'm finding it impossible to find out choices in OZ (the Atlas tyres on my Atto 3 seem fine, however a named brand might be quieter,more comfortable and give me more confidence when we get to winter). 10 different tyre retailers and not a single informed reply. It seems that no-one in OZ knows. NZ seems much further advanced in EV's than us... so maybe you'll have better luck.
Actually, I "love" the show, I'm not sure, I "ove" the show :):
I would go for a set of Michelin Primacy s on the Atto. They are not a dedicated EV tyre but you won't be losing much range and gain a lot over the Batmans. I am trashing the Atto to wear out the tyres as soon as possible 😂 (joking)
@@fakejake8965 those are the ones the MG uses
I've seen "EV tyres" advertised but they are only for bigger wheels, could go for a bigger rim with smaller sidewall but unsure how that would affect comfort
@@AegisHyperon ta @AegisHypeeon
I think there is a misconception with the BYD regen braking. I test drove a BYD and it appears the regen increases with the brake pedal. It is set up to add more regen when you press the pedal and far before it engages the actual brakes. I might be totally wrong on this but I think this is just the way they designed it to integrate with the brakes and not be set up for single pedal driving.
You can see the regen amount increase as you touch the brake pedal to test this.
Correct. Think it will be easier for ICE car users to switch to an EV. Not sure if BYD did it because of that. I think it is a good idea.
@@blueosaka2553 BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs .
BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative.
BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂
My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
One I believe, has a heat pump, the other does not. The absence can significantly reduce range in cold weather conditions.
I like your “seated heats” comment. Great review.
For me, the BYD was available while the MG not (in Thailand). But besides, one advantage of BYD is that you can disconnect it from the internet in you want (good against hacking and big brother).
Looking forward to seeing the BYD in the UK
own an mg and we absolutely love it. would have greatly considered byd if the price point for nz is the same as oz but they opt not to match it unlike mg
Range in full charge??
we don't have much rebate, 3k in South Australia, but other states have withdrawn theirs, as it was 'costing to much' . Don't believe that, more likely that the Fossil fuel lobby got influence.
I like the BYD with blade batteries and the peace of mind that it won't set my garage and house on fire.
Your reviews are awesome, the dashes of humor are mega refreshing
I'm not in New Zealand and not really looking for an EV but wow... What a great review.
Great video Gavin, a lot of effort clearly. The BYD seems a winner.
That interior size comparison was exactly what i was looking for. Youre a king
Been looking forward to this one! You're fantastically entertanining, to the point i'm not allowed to watch these until the gf is here (even if we arent getting an ev yet. Keep up the awesome videos :)
Thanks mate. You've made a happy man old. -Gav
Champion report! Wish Aussies could do such a quality report. I mean, details like measuring width of rear seat. NOBODY does that here across the ditch.
Wayne, you've made a happy man very old. Thanks mate. :) -Gav
I like your review so much. Looking forward to your next video. There is one thing I want to correct, though it is not very important. Brake plate stop doesn't It means they're more efficient. You can try driving BYD, braking, and not braking on the same road. The energy recovery shown on the dashboard is different. So being able to stop the car by releasing the brakes doesn't mean they're more efficient.
Great review! Have my Atto 3 on order. You guys in NZ are lucky vs us in Australia. EVdirect our distributor is pretty terrible.
Fake sales of Chinese EVs
Asia's largest new energy automaker goes bankrupt, Why? Warren Buffett reduces stake in China's BYD
Sep 10 2022
In the nearly 30 years of domestic auto industry development, China hasn't been able to overcome the core technical issues of automobiles in the era of internal combustion engines. The rise of the new energy vehicle industry, represented by electric vehicles, had prompted the CCP's top brass to plan to seize the high ground in the new energy auto industry and supply chain and to dominate the production and sales of this industry by taking drastic steps to "overtake" its competitors. But now China's star new energy automaker went bankrupt and Warren Buffett reduces his stake in BYD. Why?
Because of over government subsidies. BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs .
BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative.
BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂
My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
BYD is better looking but we're not set to get it here in Ireland. Interior is quirky but I could live with it.
Another brilliant review. Already subscribed, can't wait for the next vid. Best wishes Gav. Been waiting since March 2022 for our MG LR Trophy for the wife, its Dec 24th 2022!! I already own a Kona EV so we will be all electric when it arrives.
Thanks for the video. I've been searching for a good breakdown of the regen breaking, and nothing was good enough until this video. Thanks.
With the mg, instead of going through the screen to turn the lane tracing on, you can just pull the cruise control stalk quickly towards for autonomous steering you twice to enable mg pilot, as I think the lane cantering in the screen is just to assist the driver. Don’t quote me but I think there’s a difference. Great review!
Pilot software is illegal in the entire EU though. If you ever have an accident that way you'll face full liability, if you're unlucky criminal charges as not being in control of the vehicle equals reckless driving.
@@SanderSA-ny3lh good thing I'm not in Europe
@@therealkrisjenner
If you want to get killed by idiots smashing uncontrolled cars into you then that's your business, obviously.
I don't much feel like dying, or having my kids murdered because some corporation wants to make money off of broken beta software.
I enjoyed this video, great gags. I am more excited for the next vechicals from these two manufacturers MG M4 and the BYD Seal which are much more drivers cars and less family cars. I will also give the Dolphin a test drive.
Best review of any EV I’ve seen anywhere! Wish all the reviewers here in the UK had a fraction of your enthusiasm, passion, and humour in their reviews! Now to go through your other videos and find a review of the ioniq 5 I’m considering or whether to save some quids and go for atto
‘Seated heats’ was the feature I was looking for 😩
I've checked and am positive no other cars have seated heats 😁
Best comparison ever !! Thank you.
And you measure width of the backseat, which i have been looking for, but never done by anyone else !
Requesting comparison Atto 3 vs Omoda E5 please 🙏
These are the 2 top picks for me
I loved the review. I have had MG ZS EV for 18 months now and really love it. Was a little worried about the range and was tempted to trade up to BYD but the interior of BYD is a deal breaker for me. I must be old fashioned but interior makes me feel uncomfortable.
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
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Same here, too radical😂
Range in full charge??
What real world range are you seeing from your ZS?
Excellent review! Really good video, really enjoyed that
Atto3 high regen mode seems to take a little while to kick in after you toggle it. Your stop test may have still been using standard. It is reasonably weak though but brakes peddle also uses regen.
2 minutes in and already a fan of your content,
great work dude
BYD has blended regen braking. If you press the brake pedal it still uses regen.
Hilarious comparison with real value as well. Fantastic video!
In Sweden, by price, the BYD Atto 3 should be compared to the MG Marvel R, the Marvel R is cheaper though…so interesting that the price point differs so much between countries
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Gotta love some "seated heats" :)
Great video though
Absolutely slammed reviews ✨🙌 Extra attached of emotions ✨💯
good video and covers everything ya need to know before deciding, ya dont half rattle on a bit, but none of it boring and ya get all points across well, many thanks
User experience review is what everyone need. Best review ❤
Nice review. In The Netherlands however I would compare the BYD to the ZS EV Long range. That would tip the scales a bit. Looking at affordability I would go for the MG, when purely looking at design I would take the BYD.
Another great video, thanks Gavin. Just one comment, I'd love to know a little more on the battery specs of each car - kWh and battery chemistry. Doesn't the Atto 3 have LFP blade batteries with 100% depth of discharge? A great feature. I'm not sure what the MG has. It would be good to include this info as part of future reviews.
i don't know why he didn't mention about that and v2L
They both use LFP batteries, ever since Tesla opened in China all manufacturers use their tech
@@davosam1968 both have v2l as well
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
@@AegisHyperon BYD is a joke. They sold mostly hybrids, not EVs .
BYD is playing the same playbook as the CCP; copying and stealing other companies' technology. And then manipulating data to exaggerate their narrative.
BYD is on top of the list as having the most repairs in China 😂 🤡 😂
My friend has been working in BYD for over 20 years now . He saw how BYD would disassemble other popular cars like Toyota and Tesla, and then copy them .
Great prices over there. EU is like 20% more in €. Funny comparison points you use.
Fresh and clear test!
Nice review mate 👍 easy to make a decision after watching your review. Thanks !
Good video, but the MG lane keep assist is not required for MG Pilot to work, if you set up MGP correctly you just need to pull the stalk to you twice to start it, after you have switched on ACC.
Starting video from prices - priceless ‼️
Very comprehensive and helpful video. Thanks for all the great info 👍
2:55 man of culture.. had to comb the desert for that one
Really loving these videos, interesting detail about the MG's battery warranty, although I like the BYD better. I wonder if the BYD would give more forgiving handling with a better set of tyres than the stock ones
Of course it would. All standard EVs benefit hugely if sticky tires are fitted. At the cost of a little range though.
BYD is the vehicle with the most spontaneous combustion in my country. In 2022, it will spontaneously ignite at least 48 times in China! Vehicles of this brand are very dangerous!
@@silverblade1654 so from over a million cars delivered you had 48 fires? Can you confirm your claim with a link or are you just trolling?
@@badchefi You can copy the date and address plus BYD keywords to search
1月26日上海
1月28日福建三明
2月13日广州中山
3月23日浙江杭州
3月25日上海
4月2日广州韶关
4月15日海南三亚
5月28日广州深圳
5月31日上海
6月6日广西贵港
6月6日广东佛山
6月12日广东珠海
6月14日上海
6月26日深圳平湖
7月9日广西南宁
7月21日汉中西乡
8月1日深圳龙岗大道
8月16日四川
9月29日成都碧桂园
11月15日河南南阳
@@badchefi I will only tell you part of it, I have seen official more detailed reports before
Has to be one of the best reviews I have seen. I'm thinking of getting an ev and this may have made my mind up thanks heaps😁👍
You got the USB port comparison wrong. MG has an additional USB port next to IRVM for the dash cam making it a total of 5 USB ports in the ZS EV.
The design of the BYD is my fav thing
This was a lively and informative car review. Thanks for the details and looking forward to a proper charging comparison on these cars. Just subed. Keep on driving!!!
BYD for the win imo
There is no one pedal driving mode in BYD, but your regen still works. Theres is an electrical braking system which uses both regen and traditional brakes to stop/slow the car, and the system itself decides when to use each of them) Many people still prefer two pedal driving, so its normal for new EV drivers)
You never activated Mg pilot 2 pulls on the cruse Control stock agenst you and its fully activated. and it works like a charm!
Well done mate!
I just feel weird with the interior design of byd and I agree about the price.
I love these cars! Please bring them to US asap👍👍
Not sure Biden will allow its entry or not😢
I did reviews myself and i know how hard ir is. Very well done!
Thanks, fo an excellent review - very well done. The Kiwis are so much further ahead in EV's than Hicksville Aust. Thanks to 9 years of an EV-hating Liberal Govt here. Id go for the BYD Atto even though I prefer the interior of the MG. Driving range is very important in Aust. which is why Id go for BYD. Id like a spare tyre though.
Thanks for impartial comparison. Great work
Great review. Loved how you did and presented the comparison :)
You should have put real-world range not WLTP range. The Atto 3 is getting AA/AC VERY soon within 1-2 weeks. I'd dispute the charge port winner, the front means a front end collision and your charge port is out of action totally that goes for any EV with it in the front the side is a better position particularly as many fender benders are front or back not side. Should have added efficiency to your ratings, based on ev-database figures the MG is: 181 Wh/km (real world range 270km), BYD is: 188 Wh/km (real world range 320km) currently these are estimates for both.
yea that's what i thought as well when i test driven the MG. not sure what they're thinking putting it there, any common frontal impact will see the car unable to charge. most EVs have it on the side in higher position just like ICE car fuel doors that rarely gets hit.
Yes you are dead right about the position of the charging port.
in a front end collision the battery+motor is probably damaged and airbags deployed... not going to be able to drive in any car with a front motor might as well put the charging port in a convenient location so you don't need to take up 3 car parks to charge
@@AegisHyperon You make no sense. front end collisions don't always end with catastrophic damage. my Tesla charging from the back side doesn't take 3 car parks to charge. wtf you on about??
@@davec110 the port is on the front side, it's both "in a vulnerable location" and hard enough to get to that I see people park sideways to charge it
This is the comparison video that I am looking for 👍👍👍
Great video Gavin. My olds are considering both. I'll send them a link.
Thanks for your videos, in relation to adaptive cruise control, how the byd atto 3 works with slow traffic, let's stop and start by itself, I know the Mg works very well. Thanks again.
BYD has start stop as well
what a great review! just what i needed. would have appreciated a comparison in instrument cluster + infotainment screen too.
Nice review Gavin!
Awesome video!! Kept me engaged throughout and definitely a great help in deciding which way I’m going 🙂 thank you Gavin
Good video and comparison. I also like your presentation style a lot. I am on the waiting list for a Toyota Prius Prime so I am going on the Plug In Hybrid route.
Actually, adaptive cruise in BYD is working well if you know how. Lean assist warning is good, but to let it take over partly the lane assist, feels scary.
Excellent real-world review, entertaining also :)
New Zealand's driving view looks beautiful
Good review- I love the BYD, it is an amazing car, comfort, safety, range everything is better
Well organized review. Cover pretty much all aspects. Subscribed. Continue great work. We in North America has very little choice and need to wait for 18 months or more for an EV or hybrid vehicle. Sad. What I want is "take my dollars and give me the Atto 3".
Another great review of two value vehicles.
Great review thanks but also well done on the video/audio quality.
Goede uitleg van de verschillen !
Echt goede video
Looking forward to the MG4 Vs BYD Dolphin comparison video!
BYD are just about to launch in the UK (March 2023). The "cheapest" UK Atto 3 is reported to be £36,990 for the mid range Comfort & £38,990 for the top spec Design model. A "cheaper" Active model comes later this year at £36,490. All three are too expensive & even the base model is some £3,500 more than the top spec MG ZS EV 1 year old second hand versions of which are now available at £25k. However, MG changed the spec of the ZS last year which no longer comes with a Pano roof which is standard on the UK Atto 3. Personally I prefer the look of the Atto 3 which has safer LFP Blade batteries. In comparison the ZS looks top heavy & a bit goofy with it's undersized wheels. BYD need a smaller 5 door hatch EV in their range (MG4 size). Not everyone wants or needs an SUV.
The handling difference at the limit probably comes down to Michelin vs. Batman tyres.
I think most of the good cornering and handling behaviour comes from the low centre of gravity from the floor mounted battery.
BYD is the winner because of the Blade Battery
Super good video! Thanks for your work 👍🏻
we canadian brothers don't get either of these beautiful, affordable EV's. cheers
Important to note that the BYD does not claim to have 1 pedal driving. It only regenerates when you press the brake.
Doesn't claim to have one pedal driving but does regens on lift off and even during adaptive cruise. Also regens on braking.
that last sentence is of course not true.
Neither vehicle has "one pedal driving". They are not designed or able to come to a complete stop on lift off, and in the case of the BYD it really just coasts when you lift off.
Vehicles which DO have one pedal driving (Google search) include:
Audi e-tron | Cadillac Lyriq.
Chevrolet Bolt EV/EUV | Ford F-150 Lightning.
Ford Mustang Mach-E | Hyundai Kona EV.
Kia EV6 | Nissan Leaf.
Tesla Model S | Volvo XC40.
Polestar 2.
One pedal drive is dangerous to over 50’s. People easily get confused with a break pedal and it will cause car accident. People need to have two option to choose before getting used to have one pedal driving.
@@David34981..... it is. Uses aggressive regen when you press brake pedal
Nice one you Kiwi dude, I like your style, you are direct funny & quirky, keep it up......