Any ayaneo device you buy becomes old in a week, kun is old now, slide is up for prebook, by 1st quarter slide is old flip dual screen is in line. Retailers dont even invest they say by the time the device is imported next thing falls in line and customer cancel prebook even if they are denied refund of booking amount of approx 20$
Great list Joey. I disagree with your RP3+ experience (I didn’t like the metal as well but LOVE the plastic one). Everything else was spot on! You’ve been killing it lately, keep up the amazing work.
Retroid changed the metal cutouts that were the problem in his review video almost immediately afterwards so I feel like his whole experience with the device isn't representative of the plasic OR the metal device. Pretty sure the device Russ from RGC tested was the updated shell.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds I don't even watch his channel anymore. Anyway, I got myself a RP Flip a few weeks ago. Just one handheld console is enough for me. Reasons for choosing: Flip to prevent scratches + Android because Android Emulators allow cheat codes to be used.
Good list! I've heard nothing but praise for the AYN Odin 2, so can't say I'm surprised. I agree that it will be a tough act to follow, so it will be interesting to see what handhelds are released in 2024!
I'm happy to see the Retroid Pocket Flip getting so much praise. It seems to have been a pretty divisive device among reviewers depending on how people feel about the form factor, clamshell, sliders/sticks, and the angle of the screen. While I'm not the biggest fan of the buttons and D-pad, I generally quite like mine and I'm a big fan of the clamshell and easy Android setup.
The problem is the hinge build quality is very loose and poor kinda just flops open loosely if the hinge was was more study it would actually be a cool device to own
Glad to see the Miyoo Mini Plus getting love. As someone on a budget, it's a good feeling getting a handheld like the Mini Plus that can handle so much and can potentially cost so little. (I bought mine for $65)
my rog is my favourite thing ever 😢❤. i’ve never loved a handheld device more, and i have a considerable collection ! can play everything on it and it always works great.
I knew 2023 was going to be the year of the Steam Deck competitors, and we got the Ayn Loki, The ROG Ally, the Lenovo Legion Go, as well as about 100 devices from Ayaneo, and then a Steam Deck OLED refresh. I think 2024 will be the year of the Odin 2 competitors, so more Snapdragon android devices and maybe we will see ports of CEMU to Android, so we can get even more emulation on android. It would be very interesting to see if any more "AAA" games get released straight to android because of devices like the Odin 2 which are insanely powerful
I want Anbernic to make a version of the RGB30 with generally better everything, a metal shell, premium build and that square screen. I have a Powkiddy and it’s good; high resolution enough to upscale games, large enough to not be tiny, tall enough to not cramp my hands, goodies like Bluetooth/WiFi/video out, a proven chipset with excellent CFW (I like ArkOS). Plus, don’t forget, pico-8, pico-eight, Pico-Eight, PICO-8, PICO-EIGHT!!!
+1 to your Anbernic RGB30 version description! That'd be perfect and I'd buy one right now if they built it. @JoeysRetroHandhelds - I think the RGB30 is better suited for folks with larger hands. Its ergonomics is one of the best for my 3XL sized hands over the 10+ other retro handhelds I own or built.
Miyoo Mini Plus is the dark horse!! It was my first retro handheld and probably still my most used… and I own the Ally, Loki mini pro, Rg353PS, and the Odin 2. 😂
The PlayStation portal definitely would’ve been on the bottom of my list. It’s just the most anti-consumer product Sony has come out with since their proprietary SD cards for the PSP.
Ayaneo Pocket Air is actually a really great device, more than capable for GC/Wii/PS2 upscaled, but it just got overshadowed by the Odin 2. That OLED screen looks real nice and it feels really quality. But yeah obviously the Odin 2 is a much better buy currently.
Thanks for putting RG-ARC in number 10. If there any revision regarding CPU and added analog stick, this device would be perfect. For now, it still amazing.
My number one is Loki Max. I absolutely love that thing! Switch sized 6800u handheld with best ergonomic possible, front firing speakers, fantastic buttons and full sized sticks. I kinda want Odin 2 in same form factor, I really miss Loki’s controls on it. From the day I got Loki - my Steam Deck just collects dust on the shelf.
The list was really informative and honestly a lot of them I almost pulled the trigger on. But I think I'll hold out and save up for the Odin 2. In the meantime, I'll play with my hacked 2DS and Vita
This year has been my intro to retro hand held collecting and it seemed that the hype and shipping times from China as well as back to back releases made every handheld a must buy. I think the power kiddy x55 that has a functioning screen for about 2 or 3 months was pretty great. But as we climb this list saving that hundred dollars and waiting for a $150 or $200 device would get you more cost effective, better controls and better pocket ability with the exception of the miyoo mini plus which has always been good with current garlic OS.
Maybe you should get a Retroid Pocket 3+ just to see if your opinion changes on it? You could always return it. I actually bought the 3+ non metal edition (purple transparent) and I actually enjoy it. I'm not a fan of the button placement either but it doesn't bother me as much as I first thought it would. I take it with me on long communutes and it's pocketable to fit in my jacket. As for your list I think you did an outstanding job rating them and honestly I'm looking forward to what 2024 handhelds bring us!
I’m glad the 405m made it so high on the list and the mm+ I play my 405m a lot and I have all the consoles and a steam still the form factor is a joy for me . The mm+ is the most portable and imo the easiest to setup with onion . Great list man .
I've had an absolute BLAST tinkering with this software for for the SF2000... More importantly, I've played SOO many older retro games that I've never played before. It was easy to buy($9+shipping), and forced me to play systems I don't normally play, NES/SNES/GBA/GB/GBC. And it plays those systems really well! Again, I understand the humor, but there are communities behind these "e-waste" machines that are having a blast tinkering... I don't think it's cool to dunk on them. - peace brah
It wasn't humor, the device is one of the worst I've ever used. There's communities around anything and everything in the world, my opinions won't stop them from liking whatever they like.
I love my Odin 2. I'll fully admit I'm not one to get enjoyment from tweaking every setting on every game to get the best performance so the fact the Odin 2 pretty much just works with stock settings for pretty much everything there is an andorid emulator for is just awesome. Really looking forward to how the software matures and especially to finally get WiiU running on Android - Windwaker HD is one of my all time favorites. I'm still waiting for a company to do a modern version of a DS/3DS with twin high quality screens and upscaling. That's my grail
@@Flank.Sinatra.I backed on IGG for the super early bird. Had it about 3-4 weeks now. They smashed their production out way ahead of schedule. I think they have shipped all the IGG backers now or are in the process of shipping the final ones and are now also shipping their website orders. I went with the Pro in white. I love the white but kinda wish I got cold grey (I have the original Odin in cold grey). Hope you can get one soon!
That same Odin 2 is on its way to my workplace Monday, can't wait to see it on my toolbox when I come in. I got a 1 TB micro SD card for it when its here :D
Thanks for all your work man, it’s nice to have you and RGC as resources for us noobs who are operating on zero experience with this stuff. I went from having no handhelds or experience to owning 3 within a year
I bloody love my X55, so there. It does everything I want it to, really really well. The JelOS updates transformed it completely. They fixed the periodic freezing, got the wifi and bluetooth working - the scraping works perfectly now. Its a testament to the autistic fussiness of nerds that the clickiness is a deal breaker for them. Bear in mind that the clicky buttons are neither the D-pad nor face buttons, so they don't get used much. An injustice has been done to this great piece of kit!
I feel the Steam Deck OLED is a big enough update to be more than just a revision so really curious how you would end up ranking it against the devices listed here.
@@joelcave1500I agree that it gets a LOT of love from the community. I bought one in the 11.11 sale for a good price and I am enjoying it; I like that it's taller than a typical 3.5" 4:3 device so my hands aren't cramped and squished, the black bars don't bother me, but it feels rather cheap, dinky and toy-like. It's a Powkiddy device after all. I'd like Anbernic or Retroid to use that screen/form factor and make a more premium, quality device.
Bummed to see the metal RP3+ down so low, but as an owner of one, and someone critical of the unfinished details on the shell, I'm not about to say you have to forgive it on performance alone. I actually bought an RP2S for my little brother for christmas this year instead of an RP3+ as I think that form factor is better plus its got great value with the black friday sales meaning 100$ gets you the extra storage built-in with the same chipset as the RP3+. That said, I hope Retroid does keep trying with the metal shells, but instead of making it a limited run "special edition", they just reduce their color offerings of plastic shells and focus on the fit and finish of their devices. I think offering 3 or 4 colors for plastic shells and then one metal shell from launch will help ensure they offer a quality product. Again, I love my metal RP3+, but there are certainly improvements to do for the future. Hopefully they listen and knock it out of the park next time?
My 405m experience was terrible. Sticky shoulder and abxy buttons, a stripped back screw, a dead pixel and a corrupted sd card on delivery. I returned it after a week of trying to make it work. I bought a retroid 3+ and I’m not looking back. Couldn’t be happier.
Thanks for the great video, man :) I guessed what 7 of the top 8 would be lol 👍 I bought a RP2S as my first retro handheld, and it's been great so far. I probably went for it because of its immense, & potentially best-in-class, value proposition. As I tend to do a lot of research & narrowing down. Only minor caveat or qualm I really have is it could be a 0.5-1.0 inch bigger 4:3 screen, trading some portability... that's really it though. Besides maybe some more power for GC & PS2, but that pretty much goes for most all of these handhelds except Odin 2 😁
I 100% agree with your opinion on the Powkiddy RGB30. Whenever recommendations for a budget handheld capable of handling PS1 and older systems are brought up on SBCGaming, there's a widespread suggestion to get the RGB30. However, the device lacks proper screen scaling for a majority of the systems it plays, has poor ergonomics, and subpar buttons. I can guarantee that those recommending the RGB30 will always struggle to highlight any standout features that differentiate it from other budget handhelds, except for its 1:1 screen aspect ratio. If you want a good handheld for the price that won't break the bank I'd suggest a retroid pocket 2s or the new rg35xx plus.
We seem to have similar opinions on many things! The RGB20S (so hated but actually good) much better than its clones, the sudden love for Pico 8 games soon after the RGB30 was released, things I had always thought too. And I also love the Retroid Pocket Flip, my fav retro device, and the Miyoo Mini Plus!
Great video, thanks! Feedback for next year; keep the name of each device visible during the full video, when scrolling between parts I lose the name and need to search for it, which is annoying.
I rarely say that, but I completely agree with your list, in all the ways! I wish AYN make Odin 2 Flip. So it would be dream come true situation for me ☺
Pico 8 is really cool once you have the real thing with the splore feature. Every week you get new retro-style games and a couple of them might be great. But the kicker is: you can just do it on the Miyoo Mini+ You don't need a mediocre powkiddy device with a lackluster dpad for it.
I had so much fun watching you destroy certain devices, even ones I personnally like 😂 Just a little disappointed to not see the Powkiddy X28 even on the honorable mention/destroy list as it’s my personal fav along the MM+, but I know I’m an outliner with this one :)
I thought i was not gona like the transparent blue odin but once i turned on the lights i realised i was super WRONG. The way it diffuses on the shell is just amazing.
recently ordered my odin 2, very eagerly waiting for it to arrive! I wonder how fricking awesome a odin 3 will be. Maybe we will be able to see that in 1 or 2 years.
Some purrdy controversial opinions there, but a good overview of all the handheld releases this year! Looking ahead to next year, I'd like to see Powkiddy release an RK2023 with a more traditional D-pad, an X55 with the D-pad on top, and a V90 refresh with a better chipset! ^_^
@@JoeysRetroHandheldslove it. We can’t all be happy gamers all the time. We should also know that the truth rarely, if ever, comes from China…or from UA-cam. Trash talk can be refreshing and I appreciate it.
The powkiddy x55 is a piece of junk . The system stops booting up after about a month of play. It just happened to me yesterday. I looked it up and it turns out it happens to alot of people...unbelievable
Great list, even though I disagree with much of it lol. I like that my AYANEO 2S doesn't fry sd cards like the Rog Ally. But that Rog screen is killer, hope they actually fix the issues of the device someday.
Good list, and it seems like the rankings are warranted. I wish there was a decent large handheld with relatively low power but focused on a good D-pad experience. Something like the X55, but good and with the controls rearranged to make sense. The ODROID GO Super or the RGB10 Max 2 with decent inputs and like a 6 inch display. I guess the closest is the RGB30 but the 1:1 display results in a smaller 4:3 image than the X55, even. The Retroid Pocket 3 Plus is close, I guess, but the screen is just too small for what I want. RG505 display is a weird resolution for anything but PSP. I'm about to give up and play retro games on a Steam Deck. LOL
i'm a powkiddy fan boi but what you said was absolutely right i could not recommend powkiddy to people over anbernic , anbarnic is more stable, powkiddy still has lots of bugs , yes i found ways around them but not something the average person is gonna wanna deal with, but im still rooting for pow kiddy their designs are good
I actually really like my Ampown XU10 more than my R36S overall. The R36S has a slightly better screen with more saturated colours, but the XU10 has a better d-pad, the buttons feel better, and the triggers are much more quiet, with the L2/R2 raised up, making them less likely for the wrong trigger to be pressed. The only thing that sucks is the very limiting OS, but that can be fixed.
I get what you're saying about the odin 2 but I still just want a handheld that isn't huge that can play 2d and low power 3d games from my steam library natively and costs
Pocket flip is a controversial one, always wanted a clamshell emulator but after hearing all the news of people easily cracking/breaking the hinge it made me be extremely careful and slow when opening and closing it. To be honest I'll probably end up selling it. I bought 5 emulators in 2023 and I'd rank them - 1) Odin Pro 2 2) Pimax Portal 3) Odin Pro 4) Anbernic RG405M 5) Retroid Pocket Flip Thanks for your countdown though, enjoyed the video :D
I still think the ktr1 can succeed lol (I think it's still basically in beta). I was also curious about the x55 for streaming purposes. I heard it's really comfortable to hold. Then just using moonlight
it's got the front facing speakers which is great. that should really be standard. downward facing speakers make no sense for retro handhelds. these games have great music. I.e. Chrono Trigger
Great video as always. I dont own many of these devices at all but from reviews it seems very fair. Out of what I don't own the RG35XX Plus seems cool, depending on how CFW goes. The PowKiddy RGB30 has its appeal with the screen but the dpad especially is a worry to me, also already have devices with that chipset. The Retroid Pocket Flip looks awesome, I like clamshell devices and it covers a lot of great systems. The thing that worries me is Android. I'm not a fan of Android for Retro Handhelds.
The factor that the Anbernic RG405M was #5 I'm not mad it for being as low as it is? I mean, it has so much capability to make so many opportunities to gaming it. It was hard to put down, being it was my first non-concole experience to game on any other machine that I could take on the go.
I was so close to ordering an Odin 2 Pro, until I learned about the input lag. It's even clear in the clips you put in this video. It might not bother some people, but the input lag alone is a dealbreaker for me. Also the shitshow of having to re-setup the controls every time you connect a bluetooth controller is ridiculous. I also would want a 120 Hz screen (preferably OLED) in my endgame handheld. Basically a smaller Ally with an OLED would be perfect. Maybe someday...
The Loki Max for 550$ was actually a pretty amazing buy for me, is like a smaller ROG Ally, the form factor is pretty cool if you want a handheld PC but with the size of a Switch Mini
respect for just basically ignoring Aya neo. company just constantly releases broken handhelds and ignores their customers.
Any ayaneo device you buy becomes old in a week, kun is old now, slide is up for prebook, by 1st quarter slide is old flip dual screen is in line. Retailers dont even invest they say by the time the device is imported next thing falls in line and customer cancel prebook even if they are denied refund of booking amount of approx 20$
Agree. I totally lost any interest in this company after they released a device every 3 hours.
@@hassanger8128 good thing retroid stopped doing that
Yep, picked up the pocket air and it is the last Aya Neo device I’m getting. It is great hardware, but the software blows and they lack support
So in other words it sucks?
Great list Joey. I disagree with your RP3+ experience (I didn’t like the metal as well but LOVE the plastic one). Everything else was spot on! You’ve been killing it lately, keep up the amazing work.
Retroid changed the metal cutouts that were the problem in his review video almost immediately afterwards so I feel like his whole experience with the device isn't representative of the plasic OR the metal device. Pretty sure the device Russ from RGC tested was the updated shell.
Russ got his three weeks before I did, so nope. Mine was retail, his was review.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds I don't even watch his channel anymore.
Anyway, I got myself a RP Flip a few weeks ago.
Just one handheld console is enough for me.
Reasons for choosing:
Flip to prevent scratches
+ Android because Android Emulators allow cheat codes to be used.
@theminimalisttrainer1288 Why don't you watch his channel anymore? Is there any specific reason? I'm just curious.
@@rosemartellaro802who’s Russ
Good list! I've heard nothing but praise for the AYN Odin 2, so can't say I'm surprised. I agree that it will be a tough act to follow, so it will be interesting to see what handhelds are released in 2024!
no one is really competing with the odin 2. The odin 2 is at least $330.
I'm happy to see the Retroid Pocket Flip getting so much praise. It seems to have been a pretty divisive device among reviewers depending on how people feel about the form factor, clamshell, sliders/sticks, and the angle of the screen. While I'm not the biggest fan of the buttons and D-pad, I generally quite like mine and I'm a big fan of the clamshell and easy Android setup.
The problem is the hinge build quality is very loose and poor kinda just flops open loosely if the hinge was was more study it would actually be a cool device to own
i just wish the flip had front facing speakers
Glad to see the Miyoo Mini Plus getting love. As someone on a budget, it's a good feeling getting a handheld like the Mini Plus that can handle so much and can potentially cost so little. (I bought mine for $65)
It’s a device that’s easy to come back to after buying and playing and fiddling with all sorts of other devices
The community support for it really makes it shine.
Now with moonlight on it, it can pretty much do anything @@starmorpheus
my rog is my favourite thing ever 😢❤. i’ve never loved a handheld device more, and i have a considerable collection ! can play everything on it and it always works great.
I knew 2023 was going to be the year of the Steam Deck competitors, and we got the Ayn Loki, The ROG Ally, the Lenovo Legion Go, as well as about 100 devices from Ayaneo, and then a Steam Deck OLED refresh. I think 2024 will be the year of the Odin 2 competitors, so more Snapdragon android devices and maybe we will see ports of CEMU to Android, so we can get even more emulation on android. It would be very interesting to see if any more "AAA" games get released straight to android because of devices like the Odin 2 which are insanely powerful
Completely agree!
I would love to see one price reasonably that can be used as a phone too.
I want Anbernic to make a version of the RGB30 with generally better everything, a metal shell, premium build and that square screen.
I have a Powkiddy and it’s good; high resolution enough to upscale games, large enough to not be tiny, tall enough to not cramp my hands, goodies like Bluetooth/WiFi/video out, a proven chipset with excellent CFW (I like ArkOS).
Plus, don’t forget, pico-8, pico-eight, Pico-Eight, PICO-8, PICO-EIGHT!!!
+1 to your Anbernic RGB30 version description! That'd be perfect and I'd buy one right now if they built it.
@JoeysRetroHandhelds - I think the RGB30 is better suited for folks with larger hands. Its ergonomics is one of the best for my 3XL sized hands over the 10+ other retro handhelds I own or built.
Miyoo Mini Plus is the dark horse!! It was my first retro handheld and probably still my most used… and I own the Ally, Loki mini pro, Rg353PS, and the Odin 2. 😂
The PlayStation portal definitely would’ve been on the bottom of my list. It’s just the most anti-consumer product Sony has come out with since their proprietary SD cards for the PSP.
Ayaneo Pocket Air is actually a really great device, more than capable for GC/Wii/PS2 upscaled, but it just got overshadowed by the Odin 2. That OLED screen looks real nice and it feels really quality. But yeah obviously the Odin 2 is a much better buy currently.
Yeah but it's Aya
....I Have A Powkiddy X55 And A Powkiddy RGB30 Arriving Saturday 1.27.24 .
....I Can't Wait To Check Them Out , Especially The Powkiddy RGB30 .
Fantastic list! Respect ! I’d get the Odin 2 but I just got a steam deck OLED.
Will prolly pick up a retroid soon!
I think my top 3 (in no particular order) would be the Miyoo Mini Plus, the ROG Ally, and the Steam Deck OLED
Thanks for putting RG-ARC in number 10. If there any revision regarding CPU and added analog stick, this device would be perfect. For now, it still amazing.
analog stick would defeat the purpose since it's supposed to be a sega genesis/saturn controller.
My number one is Loki Max. I absolutely love that thing! Switch sized 6800u handheld with best ergonomic possible, front firing speakers, fantastic buttons and full sized sticks. I kinda want Odin 2 in same form factor, I really miss Loki’s controls on it. From the day I got Loki - my Steam Deck just collects dust on the shelf.
The list was really informative and honestly a lot of them I almost pulled the trigger on. But I think I'll hold out and save up for the Odin 2. In the meantime, I'll play with my hacked 2DS and Vita
My two that show up in my bag are the miyoo mini+ and the OLED Steamdeck. With those 2 devices you have all of your needs met.
This year has been my intro to retro hand held collecting and it seemed that the hype and shipping times from China as well as back to back releases made every handheld a must buy. I think the power kiddy x55 that has a functioning screen for about 2 or 3 months was pretty great. But as we climb this list saving that hundred dollars and waiting for a $150 or $200 device would get you more cost effective, better controls and better pocket ability with the exception of the miyoo mini plus which has always been good with current garlic OS.
Maybe you should get a Retroid Pocket 3+ just to see if your opinion changes on it? You could always return it. I actually bought the 3+ non metal edition (purple transparent) and I actually enjoy it. I'm not a fan of the button placement either but it doesn't bother me as much as I first thought it would. I take it with me on long communutes and it's pocketable to fit in my jacket. As for your list I think you did an outstanding job rating them and honestly I'm looking forward to what 2024 handhelds bring us!
I’m glad the 405m made it so high on the list and the mm+ I play my 405m a lot and I have all the consoles and a steam still the form factor is a joy for me . The mm+ is the most portable and imo the easiest to setup with onion . Great list man .
This gave me a few good laughs.
2S and Odin 2 is all I’ll be using for the foreseeable future.
I've had an absolute BLAST tinkering with this software for for the SF2000... More importantly, I've played SOO many older retro games that I've never played before. It was easy to buy($9+shipping), and forced me to play systems I don't normally play, NES/SNES/GBA/GB/GBC. And it plays those systems really well! Again, I understand the humor, but there are communities behind these "e-waste" machines that are having a blast tinkering... I don't think it's cool to dunk on them. - peace brah
It wasn't humor, the device is one of the worst I've ever used.
There's communities around anything and everything in the world, my opinions won't stop them from liking whatever they like.
I love my Odin 2. I'll fully admit I'm not one to get enjoyment from tweaking every setting on every game to get the best performance so the fact the Odin 2 pretty much just works with stock settings for pretty much everything there is an andorid emulator for is just awesome. Really looking forward to how the software matures and especially to finally get WiiU running on Android - Windwaker HD is one of my all time favorites.
I'm still waiting for a company to do a modern version of a DS/3DS with twin high quality screens and upscaling. That's my grail
how did u get it so early?
@@Flank.Sinatra.I backed on IGG for the super early bird. Had it about 3-4 weeks now. They smashed their production out way ahead of schedule. I think they have shipped all the IGG backers now or are in the process of shipping the final ones and are now also shipping their website orders. I went with the Pro in white. I love the white but kinda wish I got cold grey (I have the original Odin in cold grey). Hope you can get one soon!
Got mine off eBay 3 days shipping for 380
This really showed me how many of these I've bought. I really need to slow down going into 2024 haha
Never!
That same Odin 2 is on its way to my workplace Monday, can't wait to see it on my toolbox when I come in. I got a 1 TB micro SD card for it when its here :D
Thanks for all your work man, it’s nice to have you and RGC as resources for us noobs who are operating on zero experience with this stuff. I went from having no handhelds or experience to owning 3 within a year
Love your honesty. Not jumping on every bandwaggon is a nice change...
I bloody love my X55, so there. It does everything I want it to, really really well. The JelOS updates transformed it completely. They fixed the periodic freezing, got the wifi and bluetooth working - the scraping works perfectly now. Its a testament to the autistic fussiness of nerds that the clickiness is a deal breaker for them. Bear in mind that the clicky buttons are neither the D-pad nor face buttons, so they don't get used much. An injustice has been done to this great piece of kit!
I feel the Steam Deck OLED is a big enough update to be more than just a revision so really curious how you would end up ranking it against the devices listed here.
It'd likely be first.
So glad someone is finally real about the rgb30, the most overhyped handheld of the year
It’s not a homer but it’s a rare double or triple from Powkiddy when they usually strike out.
@@Mister_Phafanapolis probably great for its use case, but the SBC Reddit recommends to everyone all the time
@@joelcave1500I agree that it gets a LOT of love from the community.
I bought one in the 11.11 sale for a good price and I am enjoying it; I like that it's taller than a typical 3.5" 4:3 device so my hands aren't cramped and squished, the black bars don't bother me, but it feels rather cheap, dinky and toy-like. It's a Powkiddy device after all.
I'd like Anbernic or Retroid to use that screen/form factor and make a more premium, quality device.
Bummed to see the metal RP3+ down so low, but as an owner of one, and someone critical of the unfinished details on the shell, I'm not about to say you have to forgive it on performance alone. I actually bought an RP2S for my little brother for christmas this year instead of an RP3+ as I think that form factor is better plus its got great value with the black friday sales meaning 100$ gets you the extra storage built-in with the same chipset as the RP3+. That said, I hope Retroid does keep trying with the metal shells, but instead of making it a limited run "special edition", they just reduce their color offerings of plastic shells and focus on the fit and finish of their devices. I think offering 3 or 4 colors for plastic shells and then one metal shell from launch will help ensure they offer a quality product. Again, I love my metal RP3+, but there are certainly improvements to do for the future. Hopefully they listen and knock it out of the park next time?
My 405m experience was terrible. Sticky shoulder and abxy buttons, a stripped back screw, a dead pixel and a corrupted sd card on delivery. I returned it after a week of trying to make it work. I bought a retroid 3+ and I’m not looking back. Couldn’t be happier.
Thanks for the great video, man :) I guessed what 7 of the top 8 would be lol 👍
I bought a RP2S as my first retro handheld, and it's been great so far. I probably went for it because of its immense, & potentially best-in-class, value proposition. As I tend to do a lot of research & narrowing down. Only minor caveat or qualm I really have is it could be a 0.5-1.0 inch bigger 4:3 screen, trading some portability... that's really it though. Besides maybe some more power for GC & PS2, but that pretty much goes for most all of these handhelds except Odin 2 😁
I appreciate you calling things as you see them.
You’re going to make a lot of enemies with this list. Good on ya. Always good to have some healthy debate!
Just a normal Wednesday for me!
Great video Joey, just in time for the holidays for those of us looking to purchase a handheld for themselves or a loved one.
Another banger Joey! Thanks for this roundup!
I 100% agree with your opinion on the Powkiddy RGB30. Whenever recommendations for a budget handheld capable of handling PS1 and older systems are brought up on SBCGaming, there's a widespread suggestion to get the RGB30. However, the device lacks proper screen scaling for a majority of the systems it plays, has poor ergonomics, and subpar buttons. I can guarantee that those recommending the RGB30 will always struggle to highlight any standout features that differentiate it from other budget handhelds, except for its 1:1 screen aspect ratio. If you want a good handheld for the price that won't break the bank I'd suggest a retroid pocket 2s or the new rg35xx plus.
“The biggest pass of history of passes “ 😂😂 savvge 8:07
We seem to have similar opinions on many things! The RGB20S (so hated but actually good) much better than its clones, the sudden love for Pico 8 games soon after the RGB30 was released, things I had always thought too. And I also love the Retroid Pocket Flip, my fav retro device, and the Miyoo Mini Plus!
Another banger of a video! A ton of strong well thought out opinions.
Nice, i just got the rg405m on sale and im loving it. Top 5 is a good ranking
Still a month to go Joey! In retro handheld terms that's approximately six decades.
Plan on taking some time off during Christmas!
Great video, thanks!
Feedback for next year; keep the name of each device visible during the full video, when scrolling between parts I lose the name and need to search for it, which is annoying.
Good point!
I rarely say that, but I completely agree with your list, in all the ways!
I wish AYN make Odin 2 Flip. So it would be dream come true situation for me ☺
I always enjoy watching your vids even if i dont agree on some things which us the sign of good videos
Great video Joey! I'm glad 2 of my devices are in your top 5! Still mad about the RGB30 though! :P (I'll never let it go!)
Pico 8 is really cool once you have the real thing with the splore feature. Every week you get new retro-style games and a couple of them might be great. But the kicker is: you can just do it on the Miyoo Mini+ You don't need a mediocre powkiddy device with a lackluster dpad for it.
I had so much fun watching you destroy certain devices, even ones I personnally like 😂
Just a little disappointed to not see the Powkiddy X28 even on the honorable mention/destroy list as it’s my personal fav along the MM+, but I know I’m an outliner with this one :)
Completely forgot about this one lol no one ever offered it to me, and I had no interest in it, and also forgot it existed lol
I thought i was not gona like the transparent blue odin but once i turned on the lights i realised i was super WRONG. The way it diffuses on the shell is just amazing.
Right? Looks like it's pulsing! It's awesome.
Hi Joey. I think this has been your best video so far. Keep it up!
recently ordered my odin 2, very eagerly waiting for it to arrive! I wonder how fricking awesome a odin 3 will be. Maybe we will be able to see that in 1 or 2 years.
It sounds like looking at your guinea pigs was a better idea than showing the handheld that you were talking about. And your guinea pigs are so cute
I got a Retroid Pocket 2S, considering selling my Steam Deck since I don't use it. I rather be playing modern PC games on my PC.
I really love your emphasis on comfort and feel. I wish you reviewed game controllers and accessories as well.
Noted!
Some purrdy controversial opinions there, but a good overview of all the handheld releases this year! Looking ahead to next year, I'd like to see Powkiddy release an RK2023 with a more traditional D-pad, an X55 with the D-pad on top, and a V90 refresh with a better chipset! ^_^
Controversial Joey creates cash! Him shit talking devices/manufacturers is one of my favorite bits on the channel.
Someone has to!
@@JoeysRetroHandheldslove it. We can’t all be happy gamers all the time. We should also know that the truth rarely, if ever, comes from China…or from UA-cam. Trash talk can be refreshing and I appreciate it.
I love my rp2s I use it for GameCube mainly and I have got to play windwaker fully.
The powkiddy x55 is a piece of junk . The system stops booting up after about a month of play. It just happened to me yesterday. I looked it up and it turns out it happens to alot of people...unbelievable
Great list, even though I disagree with much of it lol. I like that my AYANEO 2S doesn't fry sd cards like the Rog Ally. But that Rog screen is killer, hope they actually fix the issues of the device someday.
My man is brutal. I like it! This is a very good list and an honest review.
Good list, and it seems like the rankings are warranted.
I wish there was a decent large handheld with relatively low power but focused on a good D-pad experience. Something like the X55, but good and with the controls rearranged to make sense. The ODROID GO Super or the RGB10 Max 2 with decent inputs and like a 6 inch display. I guess the closest is the RGB30 but the 1:1 display results in a smaller 4:3 image than the X55, even. The Retroid Pocket 3 Plus is close, I guess, but the screen is just too small for what I want. RG505 display is a weird resolution for anything but PSP. I'm about to give up and play retro games on a Steam Deck. LOL
powkiddy x28 and trimui smart pro seem like your best options
Actually really enjoyed this tier list, great work bud! 🍻🤘🏼
I'm hoping there's gonna be a community OS for the Odin 2 like there is for the Miyoo+ with Onion OS
How?
Where is that community?
First time on your page love it! RG3 flip is great my best handheld...
my favorite part was when the RG353V made a cameo appearance. your first video iirc 🤔
Someone caught it! Yeah, small little tribute to my first UA-cam video :)
i'm a powkiddy fan boi but what you said was absolutely right i could not recommend powkiddy to people over anbernic , anbarnic is more stable, powkiddy still has lots of bugs , yes i found ways around them but not something the average person is gonna wanna deal with, but im still rooting for pow kiddy their designs are good
I actually really like my Ampown XU10 more than my R36S overall. The R36S has a slightly better screen with more saturated colours, but the XU10 has a better d-pad, the buttons feel better, and the triggers are much more quiet, with the L2/R2 raised up, making them less likely for the wrong trigger to be pressed. The only thing that sucks is the very limiting OS, but that can be fixed.
I just started with the 353ps but will be looking to buy the AYN Odin during tax season!
Your top 2 picks are in my possession and almost always in my hands 😂
My miyoo mini is just on the self and my everyday device is a modded r36s... Hahah i love this little powerfull thing!
Joey you got to put some translucent blue buttons and D-pad on your blue miyoo mini if its going to be your show piece. Well worth it!
Ahhhh I should
0:32 I like the set up and the video
I really hope the next Ayn Odin will have a bigger screen/smaller bezels.
I get what you're saying about the odin 2 but I still just want a handheld that isn't huge that can play 2d and low power 3d games from my steam library natively and costs
I would also like this, but I just don't see it for a while. Steam Deck OLED has been covering that need though nicely.
Just got a notification my Odin 2 shipped 😌
Just started but assume #1 Odin2, #2 Flip
Welp I was just barely off.
Close! In my heart, the Flip is probably number 2.
Retroid pocket 2s top 4 is good. I got 3ds running smooth
I was waiting on the Trimui Brick, but got the PowKiddy RGB30 Purple Edition instead.
Other than the 3DS, I'm new to handheld consoles. I didn't realize that there were so many, so thank you for making an informative list.
Pocket flip is a controversial one, always wanted a clamshell emulator but after hearing all the news of people easily cracking/breaking the hinge it made me be extremely careful and slow when opening and closing it. To be honest I'll probably end up selling it.
I bought 5 emulators in 2023 and I'd rank them -
1) Odin Pro 2
2) Pimax Portal
3) Odin Pro
4) Anbernic RG405M
5) Retroid Pocket Flip
Thanks for your countdown though, enjoyed the video :D
what systems did u enjoy most on the flip?
I guarantee if u try the official RP3 grip, that device moves up at least 5 spots. Game changer.
I'm not a fan of extruding grips like that, removes the portability of the device. Honestly, I love the Flip instead.
Rp2s+ with the grip is amazing
I still think the ktr1 can succeed lol (I think it's still basically in beta). I was also curious about the x55 for streaming purposes. I heard it's really comfortable to hold. Then just using moonlight
it's got the front facing speakers which is great. that should really be standard. downward facing speakers make no sense for retro handhelds. these games have great music. I.e. Chrono Trigger
Awesome list.
My top 3 this year has been
Steam deck OLED
G cloud (can’t seem to forget about it)
Miyo mini plus
Seems to have good opinion will consider thanks for feedback
Great video as always. I dont own many of these devices at all but from reviews it seems very fair.
Out of what I don't own the RG35XX Plus seems cool, depending on how CFW goes.
The PowKiddy RGB30 has its appeal with the screen but the dpad especially is a worry to me, also already have devices with that chipset.
The Retroid Pocket Flip looks awesome, I like clamshell devices and it covers a lot of great systems. The thing that worries me is Android. I'm not a fan of Android for Retro Handhelds.
The factor that the Anbernic RG405M was #5 I'm not mad it for being as low as it is? I mean, it has so much capability to make so many opportunities to gaming it. It was hard to put down, being it was my first non-concole experience to game on any other machine that I could take on the go.
I love your channel and your crazy honest opinion. Subbed.
Just saw this video right after buying a miyoo mini + and a odin2 xD. Great content btw
I love the retroid pocket flip
Very lovely upload men! Been enjoying my mini miyo + so much, i,m tempted to buy a analog pocket it looks amazing and don,t think it,s that exspensive
Came for the top 10, rewatching for the guinea pigs
Peegs!
you opene my eyes sir thank you! also thank you for links
I was so close to ordering an Odin 2 Pro, until I learned about the input lag. It's even clear in the clips you put in this video. It might not bother some people, but the input lag alone is a dealbreaker for me. Also the shitshow of having to re-setup the controls every time you connect a bluetooth controller is ridiculous. I also would want a 120 Hz screen (preferably OLED) in my endgame handheld. Basically a smaller Ally with an OLED would be perfect. Maybe someday...
Where does Anbernic RG353V and RG353VS sit on your list? What are your thoughts on those devices?
Great video thanks buddy! 🙂
i have an rg nano, its so much fun for rpg games. one handed games. action 2 handed games suuuck for it though..
The Loki Max for 550$ was actually a pretty amazing buy for me, is like a smaller ROG Ally, the form factor is pretty cool if you want a handheld PC but with the size of a Switch Mini
I believe that the R35 and R36 were made by DataFrog. Or at least, resold by them.