Arthur Hnatek "Out of the Grid"
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- Опубліковано 3 бер 2016
- Meinl Cymbal artist Arthur Hnatek.
"Out of the Grid" - Tigran Hamasyan.
Arthur's Meinl Cymbal set up from left to right, if sitting behind the kit, is as follows:
- Byzance 16" Dark Crash (Top Hihat)
- Byzance 16" Traditional Thin Crash (Bottom Hihat)
- Byzance 22" Vintage Pure Light Ride
- Classics 8" High Bell
- Classics Custom 12" Trash Splash (two stacked together, bottom one inverted)
- Byzance 18" Extra Dry Thin Crash (stacked on top)
- Byzance 16" Vintage Trash Crash (stacked on bottom)
- Generation X 10" Filter China (turned upside down and stacked on top)
- Byzance 10" Traditional Splash (stacked on bottom)
- Byzance 20" Jazz Series Extra Thin Ride
- Byzance 20" Extra Dry Dual Crash-Ride
Impeccable feel. Absolutely amazing drumming. Song owns.
+Misha Mansoor Do check other Tigran's songs, they are killers :)
+Misha Mansoor Why don't you collab with Tigran? His songs are really heavy, that could be made djent. Listen to 'Entertain Me' for example. This is pretty heavy too and sounds like Meshuggah at times, like at 4:30.
+Satyam Bhardwaj im sure misha's heard a lot if not all of tigran's music. but idk about a collab, the styles are verrrryyyyy different
+Octavian Malcolm Different styles when fused can sometimes lead to amazing results. Depends upon the musicians who are doing so... how flexible they are in their approach.
Satyam Bhardwaj true, I just don't see it happening though. Of course I'd listen if it did
I performed this at my recital two weeks ago, and it was by far the highlight of my setlist!
It started out as a transcription I made of this exact performance and ended up being played entirely live by me and my friends.
It was especially cool considering that it was a classical percussion recital, so you can imagine what a move-out-of-left-field was bringing 2 pianists (one played the synth parts) and a bassist for this was, I was really happy with the result.
Tigran was supposed to do a show, along with his trio including Hnatek on the day of the recital - but sadly they canceled due to Tigran catching covid. This has also led to the canceling of the masterclass with Arthur which is a real shame (they somehow convinced him to do one the day before), hope they do a round 2 in Israel real soon!
That sounds awesome man, do you have a video or anything?
If you guys haven't already, the album which this tune is off, "Mockroot", by Tigran Hamasyan, is essential listening. Arthur's playing on the album, as evidenced by this video, is meticulous and tight (as the music demands).
Arthur Hnatek is an absolutely fantastic musician. Man, this is just killer.
This guy is one of the most unique and inventive drummers I've seen in a long time.
ua-cam.com/video/zdEGDcNmwAQ/v-deo.html
Check out Yogev Gabay too, he also has played with Tigran
oh fuck yes, there is a serious lack of videos of this man playing
seriously one of the best drummers of our generation .he is right up there with Gartska
Agreed! Also check out Norwegian drummer Kenneth Kapstad. His work on the album 'The Death Defying Unicorn' by Motorpsycho and his own project Grand General is all prime drumporn.
Yes! So smooth!
my god. I'm conviced that meinl have the most talented drummers in the world! incredible!
Gabriel Moura 100% agree
People that can play like this are absolutely above and beyond talented
I hadn't had a high opinion about Meinl cymbals. This video has changed my mind. Such an excellent drummer helps!
it blows mind that people can play stuff like this..... amazing job
As expected, this is great ! Need more Tigran playtrough from him on UA-cam !
I love this man and his stupid shirt.
I love how dark and heavy the song gets in places. And of course the amazing drumming!
How can I find a band like this to play in? 😩
Exactly my thought while watching this...
+Austin Burcham Tigran Hamasyan is the guy on the piano. & Arthur is also playing with Eric Truffaz (my uncle Benoît Corboz on the piano :-)) Go check them out! By the way I love your videos!
+Michael Corboz Thanks man!
Create it
+Austin Burcham Practice your toes off;)
absolutely undescribeable... simply awesome
That C&C kit though 😍😍😍
Im loving the playing and irrationally angry at the snare tuning.
Fantastic drummer!! Keep videos like this coming, Arthur!!!
One of my favourite drummer... That's for sure!
didnt know calvin harris was this good at jazz metal
My damn brain was sweating just watching this display of genius (how's that little Caleb freak). Wow. Nice display of something called.....PRACTICE!! Lol. And SKILL! Bravo
still love it!!
Amazing on every level!
This is so good!! Love it!!
I feel like they took some djent sheet music and just adapted it to play as jazz. We'll call it djazz for all intents and purposes.
+Harry D. don't be surprised when a bunch of butthurt people reply to your comment :D
+Harry D. What Martin means by "don't be surprised when a bunch of butthurt people reply to your comment" is that well that "djenty-progy" sound came from jazz and endless experimentation with rhythm time and melody. Though this sounds more on the side of metal especially toward the end, so rad! Gives me Between The Buried And Me vibes.
+Gabe Houben I think all this is, is trying to be Mark Guilliana
+Yaniv Loven Were in the ever living hell did you get that idea? There is some very few similarities, but that can be said with every drummer. Hate when people try and say someone is trying to copy someone else.
Check out Tigran Hamasayan. He does this stuff all the time
So Dope this what music sounds like man you can actually hear the drums with the music 🔥🔥🔥🔥🍷🍾
2:39 , metal mode on
Arthur's like another version of matt garstka. Both are living rudiments
these cymbals sounds nice
Very nice
Awesome!!
Hell ye!!!! crazy good!
I love this
Please please post more of this guy playing Tigran's stuff. So good.
You are Genius!
Toller Song! Spitzendrumming! :-)
muy bueno como esta tocado y el audio de los platos saludos
Incredible
well this was refreshing
This is what math sounds like when you translate it into music (and it's so good).
Amazing, Its actually 4/4 most of the time!
Really?! The song is pretty crazy I'm surprised most of it is in 4/4 haha
Me too! The main riff is 2 bars long and its divided in 5 5 7 5 5 5 = 32 sixteenth notes.
On 3:30 you can hear it very well. There he plays the pattern with a fat back beat on three.
It´s the same pattern as in "The Grid"
You could count in 4, but it's actually subdivided in 15+17, most of the time. The B-part is in 13+12
@@simondebacker3431 Its actually 17+15
@@burnt_lamp Woops that's what I meant!
cool smooth djent playing
It's incredible how that snare has wrinkles but it sounds so awesome
Nice!
besides thy playing, the mixing is pretty awesome too :D
Gat dayum!!! 👌
#GetIt!
Seams more like a math quiz then a song.
you need to start listening to more music then
Its a math quiz AND a song. :)
You should explore Tigran's music more. He may not be for everyone's taste, but don't be mistaken. What is incredible about him is that he will churn out mind-blowing rhythm and heavy beats but then drop into beautiful armenian melodic harmony. He is neither technical masturbation devoid of feeling, nor is he too loose and purely emotional. The man's found a balance in between unlike any musician I can think of. I suggest Kars, Apple Orchard in Saghmosavanq, What the Waves Brought, Luys I Luso and Road Song as great listens to get a sense of how powerful, original, and diverse his music is.
Live performances are even more incredible.
MHP Le The untitled two-song suite on Shadow Theater "Pt. 1:The Collapse" and "Pt. 2: Alternate Universes" is my favorite Tigran song. Whoa
Massa mano✌
Amazing! Please put up Kars 1&2 with him!
Jar
Kars 1 is up brotha
Animals as Leader in Jazz Key ............. pretty cool ..................
Still revisit this and see dude playing maths effortless
There's something wrong with the video it keeps jumping around. You might want to fix it.... Im just totally kidding. Very nice stuff!. Diabolical genius!!
This Trash Splash Stack Combo is awesome. Is the bottom one bend over or did meinl made a custom one with the bell placed upside down? Or did my eyes played a joke to me and the bell is where it should be?
So the bottom cymbal in the trash splash stack is bent upwards, correct?
Виртуоз!
I`m still wondering why he took out the High 8 bell at 3:06 if he didn´t use the tom :/
I was wondering the same thing. My guess is that he just wanted the option in case wanted to add it in, but ended up not using it
What kind of snare is that and where can i get it?
anyone know what sticks he's using ?
can someone tell me the time signature for this???
By the way, what time signature is Vardavar in??
He using Jo Jo Mayers signature pedal?
I’ve been racking my brain trying to figure out 2:25. I hear the groups of 3 but the other groupings just seem to come from nowhere? Tigeran just totally understands polymeter to the point he makes meshuggah sound like beginners
oh my god you just made me drum....fuck yeah /wink
Hi I'm studying this for my drumming exam, if someone wants a pdf transcription let me know!
Yes please!!:)
I’d love too !!!
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i'd too please!
Yes me too please ssbb1fire@gmail.com !!!
i would love it ! please, melameditai@gmail.com
this anyone know what two cymbals make that stack just right of the high Tom? pure bliss!
- Byzance 16" Dark Crash (Top Hihat)
- Byzance 16" Traditional Thin Crash (Bottom Hihat)
- Byzance 22" Vintage Pure Light Ride
- Classics 8" High Bell
- Classics Custom 12" Trash Splash (two stacked together, bottom one inverted)
- Byzance 18" Extra Dry Thin Crash (stacked on top)
- Byzance 16" Vintage Trash Crash (stacked on bottom)
- Generation X 10" Filter China (turned upside down and stacked on top)
- Byzance 10" Traditional Splash (stacked on bottom)
- Byzance 20" Jazz Series Extra Thin Ride
- Byzance 20" Extra Dry Dual Crash-Ride
thanks man!
👍👍👍👍
I want to know all the time signatures for this so baf
Arthur Hnatek is awesome but have you heard of Yogev Gabay ?
The timing makes my brain hurt
Does anyone have a transcription for this?
he's using the Jojo Mayer Perfect Balance Pedal - interesting.
+Lukas T Why is that interesting?
+AquaAnim haven't seen many professional drummers using it. could get my hands on it a few weeks back and it is definitely an awesome pedal.
+Lukas T Steve Smith uses it on Bop kits, ive seen Peter Erskine use it. Florian Alexandru Zorn uses it, Adam Nussbaum, Damien Schmitt, Jack Dejohnette, Jost Nickel, Stan Bicknell :P
Got a request to play this and "The Grid" at one of my friends exam. I'm screwed to say the least.
Did you pull it off?
It's been 3 years bro, did you do it?
Ahh! Forgot about this post
Learned enough to get through it, but my friend had to cover exams for another student (thus rendering barely any time for practice). The songs were scrapped from the exam and we were both very sad...
Covid utterly destroyed any chance of performing my personal exam, which definitively shattered a lot of my inspiration and dedication to music for a while. I had been working for so long, so seeing it all fall apart was quite disheartening.
Thanks for your interest, guys! Hearing Arthur play is always inspiring, especially since I haven't listened to Tigran in about a year or more!
@@turboallen Dang bro, it was also hard for me to learn :(
WHERE IS THE ONE :)
Just like Animals as Leaders..... Tigran found their drummer
😐... 🤩
Why is there a mic pointing to his leg?
+Juan Bedón I think it's pointing at the bass drum batter, but it's hard to tell and because there is already a mic in the bass drum I don't know why they'd do that. It could be pointing at the snare side head but it seems too far away.
+handidrummed Yeah... It's definitely not pointing at the bater nor the resonant head, is too far of both, maybe +MEINL Cymbals or Arthur himself could explain.
Thanks for replying anyways :)
djazzt
Well i saw Virgil Donati with is jazz/metal stuff but this is completely new : djent/jazz ;) . DJAZZ!
Its slower than the original song I believe
Great playing. And an incredible amount of money he's playing on. Ha
Anyone know what those tom heads are?
+Plexus The snare head is definitely aquarian drumheads
+Plexus they look to all be Deep Vintage IIs.
Eden Porter the main snare has an aquarian drumhead
+Eden Porter oh yeah once the first shot rendered u can get a look. Thanks man
Aquarian vintage
That is one heavy shit soundtrack
It's so hard to follow the beat in this. For me it's kind of infuriating, but in the best way possible. This has got to require some SERIOUS subdividing. Good show.
@Caleb I mean yeah but no. It's (at least the way I transcribed it) in alternating 17 and 15 16th notes, which while does compile up to 4/4 would be complete nonsense.
The time signatures are there for a reason, it is not meant to be perceived in 4/4 (much like Vardavar). At most I could see an argument that this in 8/4, which is true but wildly misguides our perception of where the "on" and "off" beats are. You might say this is a two-bar phrase, which would be quite weird as it is so heavily asymmetrical that it becomes very cumbersome to try and count 4/4 over these nasty (extremely awesome) rhythms.
@Caleb, I learned it as well!
It was very fun to transcribe and work out everything Hnatek does in this piece and try and arrange for a smaller kit (I don't have a million stacks and crashes :p ).
By the way, it is never too late for musical discourse - and I would love for you to further articulate your opinion as to why this is 4/4.
Considering I took my time and effort to write out a proper response, I would expect a similar effort from you - given that you are trying to dismiss me for some unknown reason.
Honestly, I don't know if you are just trolling but do feel free to respond.
@Caleb well to me it seems cumbersome to count in a polyrhythmic manner over an already polyrhythmic piece with that reoccurring 5 against 3, but it obviously can be done. So do you just memorize the accents and play them on top of the 4/4?
@Caleb for the record I don't count 5,5,3,5,5,4,5 but rather long, long, short, long, long, medium, long. And practice the length difference between them. Same goes here, I feel this more along the lines of an altered 7/8 and 6/8 rather then 17/16 and 15/16, where there it goes short, short, long, short, short, short.
@Caleb well allow me to introduce you to Bulgarian folk music! Where beats are never counted...
This concept is one Tigran himself and by extension Arthur utilize in Vardavar as well, modulating parts of the rythem while keeping the overall short - medium - long concept...
(For example going from 2-2-3 to 3-3-4 to 5-5-7).
The point is to avoid having to rely on a non existent pulse, and instead play with the pulse of the music - of course I still count the difference between the beats, as you say a percussionist needs to be accurate.
Although I do believe that treating the beats as long and short is anything but immature. Perhaps it seems irrational to you, but especially when soloing over this piece, it is far more fluid to utilize this method of counting.
Will I suddenly go full poly and play the 4/4 beat? Frick yeah it sounds awesome. Playing the triplets lead to some mind bending results, especially if go and metrically modulate to the pulse of the triplet.
But over the actual song it is my preference to think about it in the light of 17/16 and 15/16.
seems like piano djent ))
Andy Dean pjent
3:30 missed a kick ?
Sgdo
Nice cymbals, but the jazz metal fusion is definitely not a thing.
+heinzie5 Personally trying to grasp the style... I don't usually understand / love dearly the crazy time signature because it's crazy hard to groove to. I appreciate the skill and brain required but it's tough to enjoy for me. But I agree. If this is the drumming style, up the energy by like 100 and bring in the guitars
Or we could just say it's music and not have labels and give actual opinions.
what... Go listen to Animals as Leader's new album, Plini, Pomegranate Tiger, Chon, Scale the Summit. those are all bands that have practically perfected the metal/jazz fusion.
+Alek Sakiewicz I also can recommend Art against Agony, wich is a band located where I live. They make a lot of Jazz-Metal and they have many Songs on UA-cam
I agree, Jazz Metal is not a thing...but this is not jazz metal. It's it's own genre, as are many other bands. If you don't like it because you think it's hard to groove to, cool. Not Everything has to be as groovy as Benny Greb. Basically everything in these songs have a very repetitive pattern that i can pick out and love to see manipulated. Don't tell this band how to improve cause clearly they're doing fine without you (while it IS okay to state a negative opinion (there's a difference). Keep it smart UA-cam community! :)
wierd timing uuiirgh
I hate the cookie cutter crap that is so popular in drumming. Either it's put the drummer in a box of zero creativity, with no give and take, or its how fast is your blast speed, or how funky can you play along to the music without actually doing anything different to advance the music to a higher level. Drumming hasn't advanced or contributed to the music in decades. It just sits behind like they say it's supposed to.
I like this. playing with the music as a part just like a real muscian, and not just a drummer.
I know exactly what youre talking about. best example of a band where the drums are a layer in the music by itself is the new stuff by opeth (heritage, pale communion)
+adam brown I totally agree. I always end up going back to watching all my drumming videos and DVDs from the 90s and 2000s, where "less is more" was still in vogue but drummers en masse were really starting to push the boundaries and find ways to be creative and think outside the box.
These days though, everything is four-on-the-floor or blast beats. Don't get me wrong, I love a good blast beat, and I'm a big fan of Nile and Fleshgod Apocalypse, but guys like Virgil Donati, Dave Weckl, Mike Portnoy and Jason Rullo have been my biggest influences for years and will probably be for years to come.
Thank you for your contribution. If you were paying attention, you'll realise that I'm not talking about those people who do actually think outside the box, but everything else.
+adam brown Can you elaborate a bit more on "Drumming hasn't advanced or contributed to the music in decades" ??
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Seriously? This is some catchy stuff
Only if you're very narrow minded
Personally I don't think he is anything really original.. he is definitely awesome at drumming!! but the style of drumming is not new at all... An example of what I consider awesome drumming style is Richard Spaven...
He isn't original? Tell me where else you've heard this style of drumming.
+Andrea Marangoni Richard spaven original? I mean I love the guy, but its a young Steve G. Just worse, of course.
+seth kukel excuse me? first you should know that you should not even name him ;) and second I don't know where you see similarities with Steve..two genres and styles completely different IMHO. Two style that you cannot even compare (always IMHO)
+Andrea Marangoni The style of drumming isn't what makes something original. Arthur is a unique, and original drummer because everyone is different and plays things their own way. You are an original drummer, just because you're not shattering the mold on the drumming scene, does not make you un-original. He phrases different than every drummer, his dynamic control in acoustic settings is very amazing to watch, his thought process that goes into matching Tigran's hits on the piano to a drum piece, without overwhelming Tigran requires a different way of thinking. If you open your ears enough to truly listen, you will find things unique, and original in almost everyones playing. Listening, is the key, and while you may not find he is original, I have found many things that say otherwise. I am sure I would find things original about your playing if i watched you, I always look for the interesting, and positive things in someones playing, makes listening to music much more enjoyable.
TO ALL DRUMMERS SEEING THIS, STOP DRUMMING IN THE FRENCH POSITION, YOU WILL GET CARPAL TUNNEL (I have no idea if I spelt that right) GERMAN AND AMERICAN POSITION ARE THE ONLY TWO POSITIONS THAT WON'T HURT YOUR WRIST!
The counterpoint is absolutely lacking. The manner of playing is predictable. However, is cut :)
The drumming is ok I guess... still boring elevator music though.
i think this sucks
still love it!!