When Alec Baldwin said that he felt no guilt, he lost me. I thought to myself, even if I had taken every precaution, done everything right, I would still feel guilty for the rest of my life.
Every cowboy movie I've ever seen.They're constantly pointing guns at each other and pulling the trigger with Blanks... But alec baldwin removed his blank and put a live round in it 🤔.. 😂
@@xtraflo They military runs a pretty tight ship when it comes to firearms safety for the most part. I've had a few small ranges where there were a few logistical issues and the only real accident was from our combat engineer platoon. Every now and then you get the occasional trigger happy idiot that shoots too soon They were doing bounding drills and someone slipped and ended up hitting his buddy in the back of the head just under the helmet. Accidents do happen even if everything was done right but I wouldn't even remotely equate that to the negligence of Alec Baldwins fuck up. I'll never forget sitting in church and seeing all his close friends crying, a real tragedy.
What I love about this is that it shows VERY clearly EXACTLY how the firing mechanism on that model of gun works, you can be vague or make up something all you want but that is a hands on demonstration that shows what is what, its hard to really argue with that. It's a shame Alec is so deluded about what really happened, imagine if all these years and all this energy he spent being anti gun, he had just taken 1 gun safety course from a qualified instructor...someone would still be alive today.
The usual tenants of firearm safety don't apply at all on a movie set. Completely different world. All firearms handling and safety should be conducted by the armorer and the AD. When you start handing out responsibility for these things to actors or people with other jobs, you fuck with something called LIABILITY
@Doug Upah anti gun, then why did they order over 500 rounds to just shoot while on set? Nowadays, everyone says whatever won't get them canceled or attacked. If you think being gay is wrong, do you think any famous person would ld have the balls to say it🤔🤣 NOPE .... he probably has a gun in his home for protection. And remember you better agree with the group you surround yourself with because if not you will get blk listed. I don't believe a word famous people say because 99% of them are fake and could give two shits about you.... Hence, he why he says he doesn't feel any guilt. Stright scumbag rich pompous ass that should and would be in jail if they were a regular citizen.
It’s good to see someone in show business, a seasoned member, calling out the nonsense that most of Hollywood wants to push as truth. God bless you Mr. Schneider.
@BayMac If you’ve never really heard of him then he’s well known from the TV show “The Dukes of Hazard” from the early 1980’s and “Smallville” from the early 2000’s.
The problem is John is extremely partisan. If Alec was a republican this video would never be made. I lean right, love the Dukes, and I'm not a fan of Alex's politics but this just reeks of kicking someone when they are down because they don't subscribe to your politics.
@@christopherflynn Bull, George Clooney said basically the same thing. I know many experienced and responsible gun owners, all are livid over this, no matter the party. Same when Republican Dick Chaney shot his hunting partner. My very conservative father never stopped saying he should have been charged!!
Thanks John for standing up and speaking the truth when “other” Celebrities won’t! What’s even more disgusting was in the Interview on ABC Alec Baldwin stated he did NOT feel responsible for the shooting. Very disturbing to me that he feels NOTHING was his fault.
Has an autopsy been preformed? Was that poor lady pregnant? Do you see where I'm going with this? Pure speculation on my part, but I remember what Ted Kennedy did.🤔
It sounds like the prop people were out playing with guns the weekend before, Alec and nobody checked gun before scene. Are you thinking something else. Like what? Intentional murder.. maybe a secret government setup? C'mon. It was just a parade of irresponsible actions.
The usual tenants of firearm safety don't apply at all on a movie set. Completely different world. All firearms handling and safety should be conducted by the armorer and the AD. When you start handing out responsibility for these things to actors or people with other jobs, you fuck with something called LIABILITY
I hear people taking Alec Baldwin's side in this matter, speaking about how _"he didn't, or couldn't know"_ that there was a live round in the chamber, or how it's the responsibility of the Armorer on-set to ensure that the _"prop gun is safe."_ What John just demonstrated perfectly is what every gun safety course teaches as one of the (if not THE) most important things that you can teach someone who purchases a firearm: *_"When you're given a weapon, your first responsibility is to CLEAR THE WEAPON!"_* That means, you need to make certain that there are no rounds of any sort that are chambered, or loaded for use in the magazine/cylinder. That includes dummy rounds, blanks, live rounds, or anything else that could obstruct the chamber and/or barrel. Nevermind the fact that live rounds should never be on the set! That's an entirely separate matter, which is likely the responsibility of the Armorer; and she should face her day in court for her neglect of duty. What matters is that it's obvious that Alec *DID NOT* clear the weapon, because had he done so, he wouldn't have killed someone with that weapon. The responsibility for clearing the weapon lay 100% on the shoulders of the person to whom the weapon is being handed. That was Alec; and *HE DIDN'T CLEAR THE WEAPON!* Regardless of anything else that people want to say, someone is dead, because someone grossly neglected his safety responsibilities. As for the notion that it was a _"prop gun:"_ Folks, an actual _"prop gun"_ is something that may look and/or sound like a gun, but it can't fire live rounds. It isn't an actual gun. It lacks either a proper firing mechanism, barrel, or even a proper working chambering mechanism. What Alec had in his hands was an actual single action revolver, which was built to fire live rounds. Even had he confirmed that there were blanks in the weapon, he should *NEVER* have pointed the weapon at someone, while fooling around on the set like some comic book hero. Baldwin has been acting like an immature teenager. Even if he isn't found guilty of manslaughter, he should never be allowed to go near a firearm, replica, or prop gun for the rest of his life. He has demonstrated no accountability for his actions, which means that he's a high risk for this happening to some other unsuspecting victims.
Actually the term "prop" is for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING on set, ie "property". It does NOT mean it isn't a real one. A real gun used on set IS properly called a prop gun.
John this is an excellent demonstration of how the gun operates and why gun safety is paramount. When you have people walking off the set because of safety concerns you know there’s serious issues. A gun doesn’t just shoot by itself. The trigger was pulled by Alec and he needs to answer why the gun was loaded, why wasn’t it sufficiently checked and why there wasn’t proper gun safety on set.
Perfect description and explanation, down to why there would be a reason to point the weapon. It all plays out to the same reasoning as when you ask a child with chocolate all over their face "Did you eat the chocolate", and they answer "No I didn't eat the chocolate". They don't want to be responsible or admit what they have done.
@@kristopherbeer5422 I in no way say that a loss of life is even comparable to chocolate, more the situation him trying to avoid his roll in it. If that's what you drew from it you are sadly mistaken.
I've shot single action revolvers for over 50 years and everything you have stated John is 100 percent correct. Sadly it is apparent Alec failed to double check his weapon. If a firearm is passed around a room and 12 people handle the weapon there should be 12 separate inspections.
What Baldwin is going to go for is a defective product angle, and his narrative the other day was coached by his lawyers. And actually what he's going to say is feasible, if you remember from day one it was established that he was practicing quick draws, if his finger was off the trigger and the pistol had a defective trigger mechanism than it is feasible that it could have happened the way he said, if he drew it and "fanned" the trigger, or cocked it any other style associated with a quick draw, expecting it to stay cocked then it could very well have gone off, a defective trigger mechanism could even bypass the half cock safety feature of an exposed hammer type firearm like a single action revolver or even a lever action rifle. Now as we all know that's not what happened which brings me to the next point, and that has to do with everyone through all the comments sections of all these videos addressing this tragedy from day one, the subject of firearms safety, everyone keeps ragging on Baldwin as if he was a shooter at a range or even handling a firearm at home, those rules don't apply here, this is a Hollywood movie set and the people handling these firearms are not shooters, collectors or someone at the range, they're actors, there's armorers on these sets that are responsible for these firearms and their safety, ie there never should have been live ammo on the set much less in a firearm that was handed to an actor who was assured it was safe, ie a "cold gun". Actor's are not by their nature people who are into firearms, that's exactly why they have people to coach them on how to handle them in a realistic fashion, and sitting around on a movie set practicing quick draws is something that's even expected of an actor so they give a realistic performance, just the other night I watched a Gregory Peck movie where the premise is he's the fastest gun in the west and has a reputation that causes him problems everywhere he goes from some young punks always wanted to challenge him, you can bet that in between takes Mr Peck was sitting around practicing quick draws for the sake of not looking stupid on screen, you can even bet John Wayne did it in between takes on the movies he starred in. As far as checking to see if it's loaded that's also a mute point, once again we're not at the range or at home, this is a movie set and inert "dummy" bullets are loaded in movie guns all the time for the sake of realism, the same exact people who are ragging on Baldwin for not checking to see if it was loaded are the same people that would rag all over the movie for someone brandishing a revolver that is obviously unloaded, once again that's why these armorers are on these movie sets, one of their responsibilities is to make sure that the ammo in a firearm is inert dummy ammo and not live ammunition, how exactly would the actor know the difference? Which brings things full circle here, Baldwin has to play the defective product angle, because even though it's not his responsibility as an actor to make sure that firearm was safe but it was his responsibility as a producer to make sure it was a safe movie set via having hired a competent armorer to make 100% sure that when a firearm is placed in an actors hand and they're told it's a "cold gun" (meaning it's safe) that it is indeed safe. Now I want to be clear on something, I'm in no way shape or form an Alec Baldwin fan, the fact is I can't stand him, nor am I defending him but I'm just being realistic about how things are run on a movie set concerning firearms safety, you can't realistically expect an anti gun leftist Hollywood flake to know basic firearms safety, and once again these firearms aren't on a shooting range nor are they being handled in someone's home which are both environments that basic firearms safety rules are meant for, a movie set is an entirely different story. All that being said yes, Alec Baldwin is responsible for her death, but not because he himself was handling that firearm, he's responsible because as the producer it was on him to make sure that a competent armorer was hired to run the show with those firearms, he'd be just as responsible as if it was another actor who shot her under the same circumstances and he was the producer.
@@tonytorres8062 That's exactly the point, there never should have been live ammo on that set, think about it, how can you as the actor handling the firearm tell if it's live ammo or the inert dummy ammo that's loaded in guns in movies for the sake of realism? Which is what makes it so stupid when all these people are saying "He didn't follow basic firearms safety and check to see if the gun was loaded". And here's another news flash for everyone who's saying "He pointed it at her, why'd he do that?" Watch any movie that has a lot of gun action in it, it's very common for actors to point a firearm at the camera, it's called dramatic effect, and the director and camera man are standing right there. John Wayne did it, Clint Eastwood has done it, Keanu Reeves has done it, it's called cinematography, pointing the gun at the camera for getting that dramatic shot on film, it's a common practice in the movies to do it.
Hey John, long time no see; I worked with you on Dukes at the Burbank Studios ages ago. You are displaying common sense gun handling that we are lacking in modern filmmaking when producers hire none professional, none union personnel. As a union propman I have handed hundreds of weapons to actors without one incident, not one injury. The plain and simple truth is she died because of extremely unprofessional gun handling on so many levels. Nobody but the gun handlers, prop people, and actors should ever touch any weapon on a set and there should never be any live (real) ammunition anywhere near the set. Thanks for posting this video.
Are you people nuts real guns have no place on a movie set it's make believe not real so why would you need to check a gun that's being used for make believe on a movie set? the person in charged of the PLAY GUNS IS RESPONSIBLE NOT THE ACTOR! I'M A GUNSMITH and if I was on a movie set play acting in a movie the last thing I would do would be to check to see if a play gun on a movie set was loaded ! Do you check your child's gun before you give it to them OF COURSE NOT BECAUSE IT'S A NONE LETHAL GUN ON A MOVIE SET and how many people knew that real firearms were used in movies not me I was shocked I was a block from the movie set in Wilmington NC when Brandon Lee was killed by a movie prop gun So I guess Hollywood has not learned from past mistakes
@@kennethlong2280 I’ve handled weapons on sets for thirty-five years and the vast majority of them were real guns. The only time we used fake replicas on set was for background actors who didn’t need to fire a weapon on camera. As I see it the main issues are unqualified people handling guns and the lack of safety training. Anyone who touches the weapons has a responsibility to make sure they are safe. The only people who should ever touch the weapons are the armorer, the prop master and prop assistants, and the actors/ stunt people. All guns, at all times should be handled as if they are real and loaded until proven otherwise. As I said, the vast majority of weapons on sets are real; there are some that have had baffles put in the barrels in order to create enough back pressure to chamber the next round. As far as being NUTS; if being nuts means never having anyone hurt by one of my prop weapons in three decades because I followed strict safety rules, than I’m as nuts as it gets.
@@kennethlong2280 I understand what you're saying, especially with the technology we have today it's easy to make a toy gun look authentic enough for the movies there is no need for real guns on sets anymore. But in saying that many movie sets have used real guns before and through their own safety measures no one was hurt. This is not an argument for or against, it's a plea to those who wish to use real guns apply the correct safety measures every other movie that has used real guns without any fatalities used. The simple fact of the matter is that an incredible lack of gun safety was missing on that set. Why? We could argue about if they only used toys, it would never happen, but as was said before countless movies have been made with real guns without fatalities. At the end of the day those in charge choose real guns but failed to ensure proper safety measures were being used, the end result being the loss of lives.
Hi John, I just gotta say,, "Book'em Dano!". LOL...Thank you for an interesting and candid video involving firearm functionality, etiquette, and responsible firearm ownership. As an owner of a true 1873 Colt Single Action Army (thank you Great Grand-Dad Charlee) and some earlier Italian Made Replicas, which used the original patented design, got me to thinking about this issue. "There's gonna be a hang'n!". These models had "fixed" firing pins, held in place with the "firing pin rivet". Both original patented and replica actions operate with the pulling back of a serrated hammer with a "fixed in-place" firing pin; the hammer's 1st click position WAS the safety feature "of the day", preventing the firing pin from resting on a live cylinder, but only if the handler of the gun utilized this feature. From the 2nd click position, the loading gate is operable; if you were to load six rounds, you'd end up resting the firing pin on the primer of one cartridge in the cylinder, if the hammer did not rest in the 1st click/safety position. Danger, Danger Mr. Ranger there, for all the city slickers. And it wouldn't have been so uncommon for a careless hand or gun owner to somehow drop, bump, smack or strike the hammer somehow, resulting in an accidental discharge. Instead of being stupid is as stupid does, and with the hammer in the 2nd position, with the loading gate open, is the practice of loading 1 cylinder, skip the 2nd cylinder, then load the rest of 4 more, close the loading gate, then complete the cocking action from the 1/2 cocked position, still readily holding the hammer, as the cylinder rotates to the empty one you skipped and slowly depress the trigger, which allows for the gunman to gently release the hammer, resulting in the firing pin at rest on the empty cylinder that was skipped over, during the loading process. The Spring loaded firing pins of today were more recently introduced and designed as an additional safety feature, preventing accidental discharges of the firearm without the hammer being fully cocked, in the 4th click position. The reason for this updated feature is that it didn't take much at all to discharge a cartridge, if the hammer had the firing pin resting on a live chamber. Getting bumped or snagged we will say, while riding, sitting in a chair, in a saloon brawl or the snagging of the hammer on a piece of clothing or a shrub, as you rode by on your horse was and is probable, but still, not very likely. If a single action firearm with a fixed firing pin is partially cocked, right up to the point "before" the hammer engages the 1st click of 4, and/or the "safety" position, and the hammer is suddenly released on a loaded cylinder, there most certainly is enough spring tension on the hammer, that when released or flicked in such a way along with having a fixed/riveted firing pin, a cartridge can, most likely would not, but there is an undeniable risk of a discharge. Another related feature of these Single Action Colts is the off-set of the trigger, as to its position within the trigger guard. The trigger location favors the left side of guard well in such a way, that a left-handed shooter wearing gloves or with fat fingers could unknowingly/accidentally depress the trigger with the fat of the forward left index finger, while gripping around the guns guard and cocking it using the thumb. The same type of firing could be induced when fanning the gun, but the depression of the trigger in fanning cannot ever be seen as unintentional. Lastly, even with a worn or broken hammer spring/sear, this model firearm doesn't usually discharge without depression of the trigger. Anyway, I wanted to share my experience with and thoughts about the patented Colt 1873 Single Action Revolver and the Replicas of yester-year and today. At the very least, I call "Manslaughter". Merry Christmas and I wish you a great upcoming year in 2022. Respectfully, JP
Most modern SAAs today are called "three click" actions. I have never been 100% sure why the action should change because of the receding pin. Certainly there was some fear of liability that made them switch to the receding pin though but I've never had a direct answer why the three clicks instead of four. The last one I bought from Uberti came with a three-click receding pin so I purchased an aftermarket hammer/trigger/latch kit that comes with a fixed pin and a classic four-click action. Also on classic four-click actions if you watch and listen very closely there is actually a "fifth" click at the very top of the action again idk why. I think it is the trigger sear falling into the notch and then pressing upward against it, I don't really know. At any rate, none of this should impact the gun going off unless it was dropped or something. The only way the gun could fire without pulling the trigger is if the notch on the hammer or the trigger latch literally broke off in that exact moment he was holding it. Which is not technically impossible in my opinion but so unlikely as to be basically impossible.
John, I truly appreciate you not letting this go. Especially with your decades of experience and perspective being in the film industry. Alec needs to be held accountable for the tragic death of Halyna Hutchins. Not only as the person who shot her, but as it was his production company that was responsible as well for the gross negligence of firearms use on the set and chain of custody of the firearm in question. Thank you!!!
The gun that John used looks like a Taylor's 45 Colt stage coach pistol. However a real traditional Colt 45 made by Colt does not have a transfer bar safety and to carry one safe only 5 rounds are loaded with the hammer down on an empty chamber. Once the hammer is cocked or even fanned the cylinder is going to turn to a loaded chamber...... Bang!!
I can't wait for the moment in court when the prosecutor hands Baldwin THE ACTUAL REVOLVER AND SAYS....ok....show us what you did to make this gun fire without pulling the trigger.....THAT will be a CLASSIC moment!
@@carrollsanders9376 And if it was in perfect mechanical condition? I am sure the prosecutor will want to put him on the spot....whether he is stupid enough to take the stand is another question.....but considering he was dumb enough to give that interview....I wouldn't put it past him....would you?
@@bobbygzzz7116 ummmm.....no. As you start pulling back the hammer on a revolver the cylinder starts to rotate.....even in the unlikely event that the hammer was pulled back a small amount before it went into half cock position....and slipped.....and assuming again that the hammer had enough inertia to detonate a primer....the primer would not be under the hammer any more as the cylinder has rotated a partial cycle.
Thank you , John Schneider for teaching the non firearms people how a single action Colt works..I am so happy you, sir, are knowledgeable in firearms safety. Stay safe and don't go near Alec. lol
Excellent advice -- don't go near someone who demonstrates ignorance or disdain for the most basic safety measures. But...how does someone who's also ignorant know that the person holding the gun is an accident waiting to happen? If for no other reason than to protect yourself from the Baldwins of the world, EVERYONE should have a basic understanding of what is safe and what is unsafe. Apparently, the camera crew that walked off the set knew enough to realize that their workplace was hazardous to their health...and that knowledge may have saved their lives.
next witness for the prosecution in the trial of ........ and watch the view and MSN rally round their boy - the justice for thee but not for me crowd - wonder how many prisoners have had sex with a hollywood star - standby we might find out - rough house no lube
It is already (well-documented), but a certain (very) well known actor, once called his daughter “a *#%cow”. Very sad, as in pathetic, that Baldwin refuses to admit the truth.
I think everything points to Baldwin already holding down the trigger when he was fanning it. When he remembers it he might legitimately think he did not hold down the trigger, when really he was holding it down the entire time.
I hadn't heard that before... that's an interesting possibility. The way I understood it, he wasn't fanning it in that scene, but they mentioned that the gun had been fanned to point out that the fanning could have damaged the action, which then failed. Since he claimed that once they got the angle right, the director had him cock the hammer and when he took his thumb off, the hammer supposedly fell without him pulling the trigger, then he could claim that he didn't do it on purpose. The problem with that theory is that fanning doesn't damage the catches between the trigger and hammer, it damages the "bolt" that locks the cylinder in place. Either way, the armorer should have checked the gun for both being unloaded AND for any faults in the action before handing Baldwin the gun... and he should have checked it as well. It's understandable that he wouldn't know enough to check the action for proper operation, but he should at least have known how to check if it was loaded knowing he was going to be pointing it at people. It may very well have been an accident, but he's still responsible for it since he could have prevented it.
I once handed a rifle to my then 14 yr old son. The first thing he did was to open the bolt to check if it was empty. Gun safety 101! It was a proud moment for me.
I watched my son put one down in front of my then THREE YEAR OLD grandson and he knew at that age; don't touch. He's almost 15 now and knows his stuff.
A few years ago of two men videoed their session at a shooting range. The 10-year-old daughter of one was also at the shooting range. The other man handed the girl's father a pistol without locking the slide back and ensuring it was not loaded. The ten year-old girl immediately scolded the man for handing her father a gun without ensuring it was not loaded. The other man humbly apologized to the girl, told her she was correct, and promised to never do that again. The look of pride on the girl's father's face was obvious. (The video might still be on UA-cam.)
I love seeing Pa Kent teaching me about gun safety! What a Good Ole' Boy! Great seeing John again, you are like a long lost friend showing up in my UA-cam feed.
The sad thing is, is that even after watching this extraordinary demonstration, people who support Alec will completely ignore the facts solely based on his political leanings. That is sick imo.
This makes me so happy to see other celebrities calling out Baldwin's blatant lie. It was his fault no matter what he says. The first thing any smart gun owner does is check to see if its empty
@country There you go, equating Alec Baldwin with being smart!!! He’s smart alright, smart enough to kill in broad daylight in front of multiple witnesses and claim absolutely no responsibility for it!!!
This just proves what we all knew. The good old boys are a heck of a lot smarter than city boys. Especially the pompous ones. Much Love and Respect to you and yours!
@@carrollsanders9376 - How often have you taken the time to hang out with country folks? I'm betting you never have! You'd know better otherwise! You're just a typical Progressive who can't wait to progress backwards!
Mr. Schneider I'm so glad you are a true American! I grew up watching you and I always looked up to you and Tom Wopat. And so many other's I watched growing up I found out later in life are really terrible people. Happy knowing that you are genuine and hope I get to meet you someday and thank you for all the great childhood memories.
Much respect to you sir. I couldn't stomach watching Baldwin's entire interview, but from the bits and pieces I caught on youtube, he shifted the blame to every other person even Halyna herself, yet never once accepted ANY responsibility or apologized. He is a narcissistic egomaniac without an ounce of humility or grace. I pray he answers for this crime despite his wealth and fame. She had her whole life ahead of her, and a 9 y/o child is left without a mother.
Baldwin is a Socialpath and never feels guilt for anything much less this shooting. People like him never take responsibility for anything, always blaming someone else.
Great job John! You covered every angle on how the gun can be fired and why it can't be accidently fired unless you actually pull the trigger. I imagine the only possibility of the gun going off accidently, without the trigger being pulled, is if it is dropped and lands on the end of the hammer, and there is a round in that chamber but since the gun wasn't dropped that disqualifies that possibility. Baldwin had to have squeezed the trigger for that gun to fire. There are no two ways about it. Thanks for the demonstration.
Most of the general public, and specifically, non-gun owners that have never handled a firearm, let alone a single action revolver, would never know how to manipulate the action. The interview appeared to be a clear attempt by Alec Baldwin and his legal team to shift blame from him to an inanimate object in the hopes of influencing any potential jury members in future litigation. What a tragic event that could have been completely avoided by basic firearm safety measures. Mr. Baldwin and multiple others inability to keep live ammunition off a movie set and to practice basic firearm safety resulted is loss of life and injury. Mr. Baldwin, take responsibility for your part and own up to your mistake as well as the Armorer and other members of that crew.
alec's interview was for city idiots like me who never fired a gun. thing is, I have common sense and I know better than to assume a gun is unloaded, I also know never to point a gun at anyone unless I want to shoot em, and never rest your trigger finger on the trigger. But, if I know this is because my dad taught me. I also know a gun is NOT a toy. Alec saw the gun as a prop and not a real gun, so he thought he could do anything without consequences.
@@shouygui4955 Call and get an accidental shooting with a prop gun on the 911 call. You’ve got to wonder how long did they think with their statement should be before they picked up the phone and actually made that call.
Well done, John. There are a whole lot of responsible shooters who are also lovers of film, who appreciate your efforts to expose the lack of firearm safety on the 'Rust' set. The anti-gun crowd needs to understand that it wasn't the gun that caused this tragedy. It was simple disregard for safety protocols. Thank you for using your platform to spread the word.
I’m pretty sure that this is where this tragedy is going.. It’s the guns fault and therefor they are going to try and push gun control. It’s coming you watch🙄AnyOne with slight knowledge of guns know that Mr. Baldwin’s story just does NOT Add up or make sense whatsoever... Definitely missing pieces
@@since1876 it’s not murder. It was negligence!!! His negligence will get him a manslaughter charge. Please educate yourself what that means and understand the difference
Gun use and safety needs to be taught in grade school. I grew up with loaded guns behind every door and was taught gun use/safety by the time I could walk and it was also taught in Jr. High School. A completely safe environment.
I know many older folk who say that many of the students pickup trucks parked at school had rifle racks wifh weapons on them and there was never a thought of a school shooting. The times haven't changed, the general level of public idiocy has.
@@ant88310 I am Canadian, and even though our firearms laws are tighter than the USA, there was a time in the late ‘70s when I had a gun rack in my truck rear window with a couple of rifles and a shotgun. Unloaded of course. Never locked the truck, parked at high school. Me and my buddies would hunt or go drink beer and plink after school. Times sure have changed.
there were loaded weapons all over my house growing up. my dad took us to the range at 5 yrs old. responsibility and respect is 100% needed at all times.
Alex needs to admit he screwed up big time and mishandled the weapon, I’m with you John in that gun can’t discharge by itself unless there was a huge malfunction. The bottom line is the chain of responsibility and safety was severely broken, God bless the Families of the victims and I hope they get a true honest outcome.
Baldwin is a malignant narcissist, and is thus unable to accept responsibility for nearly anything he does. Furthermore he will continue to talk about the incident against his attorneys express orders to his own detriment. He literally can't help himself.
He doesn’t appear to be trained. If he was trained he would not be pointing at the camera man and he would be keeping his finger off the trigger. Trigger discipline is the most basic of all handgun safety.
He claimed in the interview that he was slowly cocking it back with no finger on the trigger...and apparently the hammer slipped from his thumb and moved forward on its own, causing the firing pin to strike the bullet. However, when the director was interviewed by police, he said Baldwin was practicing a cross draw.
Sheered lead in the trigger mechanism, could have caused the trigger to jam back, when he released the hammer at full draw he experienced the Phenomenon Notch effect and the hammer did not contact any of the Catches on the trigger.
Except it's impossible for the hammer to "slip". There are stopping points (as John clearly demonstrated) that prevent the hammer from accidentally striking the round. The first position would have stopped it. And Alec has claimed he never pulled the trigger...which is actually impossible given that the hammer DID engage the round. Alec lied. Period. To be fair, although he absolutely did NOT practice ANY weapon safety, someone else was responsible for there even being a live round in the weapon. Personal opinion: Negligent homicide on the part of the armorer, the person who handed Alec the weapon and Alec himself.
If he was pulling back the hammer and letting it go it would stop and lock at the first catch on the hammer. It wont go all the way forward unless u have the trigger pulled.
Commendation to you for having someone on, who clearly knows what he’s talking about. Having ten years as a gun and rifle totter and an armourer in the military, I’ve witnessed so many self taught experts handle weapons in a way that makes me cringe. I also hear people talk about how the military accepts less safety in battle conditions. Nothing can be further from the truth. The crazier things get, the smarter at handling weapons you need to be. You can be submissive in your role when your responsible for a weapon. You must assertively stop anyone from mis handling a weapon your responsible for as well as stopping someone taking on your role when they have no authority to do so. Although an AD have more authority than an armourer, safety trumps everything and an armourer does not allow an AD to determine the status of a weapon or to remove a weapon from the cart. I hate to say this but as a young woman with little experience the armourer might not have been able to have complete control. The AD had a reputation for being reckless so on the first day she should have met with the director and AD in question to lay down the ground rules and stop filming when the AD acted outside those rule with the agreed support of the director or you walk away from the job. All sorts of people in every life situation do things they shouldn’t so if you can’t deal with that find a less dangerous job. There, I said my peace.
Great demonstration. As far as being a “pain in the butt” goes, people in all kinds of fields (including myself) have to go through time consuming safety protocol everyday and that’s without firearms being present. Thanks John for not letting this blow over. It needs to be addressed.
The issue is that actors are not firearm experts and they don't have any control over most of the process. Physically checking at that point just serves to increase the likelihood of an accident happening. The Crow was a great example, an actor would not have found that bit of material lodged in the revolver as an actor wouldn't expect to look for it there. Similarly, there wasn't supposed to be a live round on the set and they're still trying to figure out where it came from. It's not about being a "pain in the butt" it's about the fact that entertainment productions like this have different needs from what typical use of a firearm would permit, and it's not fair to hold them to the same set of rules. It would literally make filming impossible.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade First off, how does physically verifying that a gun is empty/safe after it’s been cleared and handed to you increase the likelihood of an accident.?? That idea goes against logic. Second, if the gun used on the Crow set had been physically checked/ cleared (as John just demonstrated) then the barrel blockage most definitely would have been found and Brandon Lee would not have died that day. Third, your idea that movie sets shouldn’t be held to the same safety standards that any other situation/job involving firearms would be held to is insane. I quote you “it’s not fair to hold them to the same set of rules” Also, just so you know, it has been standard practice/protocol on movie sets for decades to have every hand that touches a firearm confirm it’s condition ie loaded/unloaded, prop-gun/real-firearm etc. In this situation Alec Baldwin had over 30 years experience and training using firearms on set in movies and television. The safety protocols have been drilled into his head for years. He did not follow protocol, period. This is the reason for this accident, which killed one person and wounded another. He is at fault. There’s no way around it. It’s not murder, as many are calling it, but it is definitely manslaughter, probably “Criminally negligent manslaughter” or “Involuntary manslaughter “. He is guilty. This doesn’t mean that he should or will go to prison. I don’t believe he should. It does however mean that he will face consequences both monetary and other. Your statement sounds as if you’re trying to wash away responsibility because they are movie makers/actors. Laws and regulations do not work that way. There’s not a different set for “special people” ie actors & celebrities. Bottom line is, He fucked-up. He fucked-up bad and he’s going to have to pay for it. So will anyone else that touched and cleared that weapon that day. Anyone who cleared that weapon on that day failed at their job and contributed to the situation including Alec. Alec was the last link in the safety chain ( the most important one because it’s your last chance to get it right)and he failed. Now someone is dead and there must be consequences.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I don't understand how you can make this claim when even George Clooney said that he checks EVERY gun he's handed EVERY time it's handed to him. Not only that, but Baldwin was also one of the producers of this western (a genre that is obviously going to involve a firearm in many scenes) on top of being an actor, therefore I would argue that his need for knowledge on proper gun safety procedure would be even greater than it would be if he was just an actor for the film in question. Also I don't understand how an actor checking a gun increases the likelihood of an accident occurring. Guns aren't complicated, and proper gun safety for any specific firearm could be taught to literally anybody, yet you make it sound like it's some complicated process that would go over an actor's head.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade you are wrong about everything you just said. But it doesn’t matter now, because John just proved Alec lied. Just like he said. A single action revolver will not fire. Unless you pull the trigger. He killed her. Then lied about his being responsible for it.
That is the most important thing that people who don't understand the subject get a very solid understanding of the core subject. Certainly a great video.
@@gmathis4829 the great thing about tv interviews is there are no consequences for lying. In fact its highly encouraged as long as your politics are their politics.
@@user-ic9qm8mb4t I am going to take a guess here - you are a libtard aren't you. John is doing a great job in explaining the facts about the gun. Kind of retorting what Libtard Alec rehearsed and did an interview with another Libard Georgie Stepaluphugus. John is a bigger and better man and movie star than Alec ever was.
@@airwolf36 That's why the usual (and competition) way of loading a Colt is with 5 bullets. Put one in, skip a chamber and load the other 4. When you're done you'll be over an empty chamber.
I'm from the UK but have handled live weapons in the past, short time in the RAF, it was great to watch someone who knows how to handle a firearm. There are no excuses.
Mic the primer. The depth of strike tells the tail. Even if hindered by a thumb but even half cock will change the strike force. Gee people be smart and figure the facts.
And yall really got no guns over there no defense???...what happens pre say if your government went completely insane tyrannical and authoritarian on yall how would you guys stop them???..no trying to be a prick either like I'm genuinely interested..do you guys even plan for such an issue??? Would it be like the great English knife or ball bat war or like hows it break down over there...I'm sure you could see why Americans keep them and want them around if put in perspective...of course look at our current president dude can hardly form a sentence in the pocket of China and is insanely dangerous for our nation here and on the world scale..but theres a line american Democrats are dying to cross but know they cant...or they atleast should know we coming off these guns and our 2nd amendment and the constitution in general over our dead bodies...idk America maybe on it way there now...but what about England and the other nations over there...do ppl even try to game plan for such a situation..they all think it's not possible but I agrue this bullshit is some evil human instinct
That was my initial response to hearing about the whole thing. And I thought the same thing Wayyyy back in the day when Brandon Lee got shot on the set of the crow.. There's absolutely positively no excuse for that happening ....ever. The only excuse would be murder.
I've been impressed with John Schneider ever since the 70's when he starred in "The Dukes of Hazzard". Imo He's always been a down to earth kind of guy. Loved him in Smallville too. Knowledgeable, humble, and I'd like to think, honest. His demonstration here just shows how someone with training, vs someone who is obviously untrained, would use a firearm or prop. Nice work sir.
THANK YOU! Every American citizen who wants to own weapons (other than those who have rendered owning them illegal) should own as many as they want and “Congress shall not infringe”. The responsibility of EVERY owner is to ALWAYS consider a gun to be loaded and to NEVER point a gun at another human. Alec is guilty. Appreciate your example, John. Thanks again.
Love John Schneider! And really appreciate this detailed explanation & look at how to check a pistol. Also really nice that you gave us a valid reason for how the gun could have been pointed at the director. I agree 100% that there is so much about this that doesn’t add up. A woman is dead & a little boy is without his mom. This could have absolutely been avoided.
Just a good ol boy… showing how a Colt works. On a side note I went through a lot of toy cars because of the Dukes of Hazard. Keanu Reeves spent months of training and shooting 1,000’s of rds for each of his John Wick movies and I’m sure gun safety is a major priority for him.
and he never shot anybody....but...even if there was a situation where he did, he would own up to it...by all accounts, keanu reeves is good guy, not at all like baldwin, with his temper and anger
Having owned firearms my whole life and taught by my father how to use them, and now owning his own Colt revolver - what you said is 100% accurate. If they showed this video, John, in court there would be zero doubt from the jury either.
@@sladetheblade9349 John told it tottally correctly!!! None of what he said was wrong. I spent 26 yrs in the U.S. Army, am a Combat Vet Hon.retired and some of my jobs was: ammo and explosives and taught bio-weapons and nuke warfare and was a Drill Sargent for seven years.
@@colecole3352 Oh ...I guess you'er a big fan of Balwin, eh? Balwin could have placed live rounds mixed in with the other rounds so he could place blame on others. I spent 26 yrs in the U.S. Army, a Combat Vet Hon.retired and was a Drill Sargent for seven years. Some of my jobs was ammo and explosives and taught bio-weapons and nuke warfare.
the person who made this video does not have access to the revolver that was involved in the fatal accident on the movie set. He can play around with the one he has in the video, and take it apart and pull the hammer back all he wants to impress people like you But he does not know what the revolver that went off on the movie set would do, because HE DOESNT HAVE IT - and HE HAS NEVER TOUCHED IT the revolver on the movie set was not suppose to have live rounds in it - it was not suppose to have blanks in it at the time - it was suppose to have been rendered safe by a gun expert and was then handed to an ACTOR what part of this do you not understand - the actor was never going to fire it with live rounds, he is not trained to handle live weapons - that is why they are called ACTORS get over yourself and your self righteousness
I don't know about the specific weapon that was used on the set of the film, but certain early examples of single action revolvers lacked the safety mechanism that prevented someone from accidentally "fanning" the hammer and igniting the cap. That's why people in the 19th century would often only load 5 of the six chambers, so that the chamber aligned with the barrel would always be empty. Of course, it would be bizarre to use such a weapon on the set of a film.
to "accidently Fan" the Revolver you need to hold the trigger, the Revolvers has so heavy spring on Hammer that you won't release the hammer UNLESS you pull the Trigger :)
@@triamaria Yeah, this video and my comment predate that information becoming public. At the time, we did not know what kind of revolver was used on the set.
Thank you for being a responsible firearm owner, knowing what you are doing while handling it and telling the TRUTH yet again. Your channel is awesome!
“. . .this is a pain in the butt. . .” - exactly why every film needs a weapons master (armorer, weapons specialist, weapons handler, weapons wrangler, or weapons coordinator) with a rigorous chain of custody for the weapons. Excellent demonstration on checking a gun. Thank you.
John, I grew during the 80’s watching Dukes of Hazard , and I am so proud of the person your are. Very profesional and your videos are great ! We are enjoying a time where a communication like this can happen! Thanks for your contribution and As a 48 year old man that grew watching the series I admire you very much !
Same here! Daisy Duke ( Catherine Bach ) was my first crush... My second, unfortunately, was Samantha Micelli ( Alyssa Milano ) from "Who's the Boss"... But, John Schneider is completely wonderful in allowing himself to think things through with logic and purpose...
@@ghostcityshelton9378 We know he can sing... He can also act... He knows his Constitusional rights, so he is highly intelligent... What can't the guy do? LOL
Beautiful piece. A buddy of mine is a collector and has every colt revolver made from 1865-1900. His gun collection is worth more than the 2 houses he owns. Addendum: My apologies to the people who couldn’t infer that I obviously didn’t mean every, single revolver manufactured by Colt in the late 19th century, but rather “one of each model”.
Dude knows guns. I have no idea what happened on set since I wasn't there and a witness. What I do know, having used guns since I was under the age of 10 and now in my 50s, is that when you verify a gun is unloaded...it's still loaded.
Thanks John for the demo. I didn’t know there were those safety catches on the hammer. I was under the impression the hammer could be fanned and could spring back and fire the round without pulling the trigger. I’m a little smarter today.
Single action colts have 4 “catches” it can be remembered because the first catch = C second catch = O third catch = L and fourth catch = T so all together it has four catches which equal COLT.
Typical on all 1873 Colts and clones. Uberti , Pietta, and many, many others. 1st click “safety” notch, second is half cock or loading position, third is bolt release, and fourth is full cock. Properly timed they are 4 distinct clicks. Many copies have early , late, or mushy clicks .
Awesome john great job explaining how a single action revolver works and verifying that there is no way it would fire by hitting the hammer thank you john keep spreading common sense
Let’s just take a moment, and appreciate how gorgeous that beautiful COLT is!!! An absolute classic, great video, John! A lesson that everyone should know, for sure. Merry Christmas! 🎄🎁
Some people probably are saying, why check the barrel if you've noted the cylinder is empty? It's simple. If "anything" is in the barrel and a blank is fired, that item becomes a projectile.
@@carrollsanders9376 There was nothing accidental about what happened nor a phantom notch! He’s guilty of negligent homicide and isn’t man enough to own up to murdering her! Good job schilling for a murderer!
There's a hole in his story John. Those that have knowledge know logistically is not plausible for a revolver to go off unless you pull the trigger. Thank you for sharing this video with us. God Bless you.
God bless you gurl. May you bear many fruits. God knows: we need more like you!!! And bless you again: God bless you gurl and all the fruit you bear. SCOTUS will keep you fruitful and out of the workforce; where men belong! And may God bless you with a man that will never ask to divorce or you become wayward to ask him. May God bless.
Yes it could have gone off if it had a defective trigger mechanism, one that's defective could even bypass the half cock safety feature of an exposed hammer weapon like a single action revolver, a lever action rifle or even a Model 97 Winchester pump shotgun. And the narrative that he should have checked to see if it was loaded makes no sense, inert dummy ammo is used in movies all the time for the sake of realism, the very same gun experts who are claiming he was irresponsible for not checking to see if it was loaded are the same exact people who will rag all over a movie where someone pulls a revolver out and points it at the camera and it's obviously unloaded, that's exactly why they have dummy ammo on movie sets, because of all the gun experts that'll rag on the movie makers over that detail, everyone keeps saying he should have checked to see if it was loaded but how could he have been able to tell it was live ammo? The subject with this tragedy isn't basic firearms safety, this is a movie set not the shooting range or someone's home, that's exactly why there's armorers on the sets, to make 100% sure that when an actor is handed a firearm and they're told it's a "cold gun" that it's not something that'll shoot someone. I can't stand Alec Baldwin, he's your typical anti gun leftist Hollywood flake, and he's responsible for her death but not because he was handling that firearm, it's because as the producer it's his responsibility to make sure the production has hired a competent armorer that's going to be 100% certain that a firearm on a set isn't capable of killing someone. But basic firearms safety doesn't apply on a movie set like it does at a shooting range or at someone's house where you can bet there's live ammo and a very slim chance there's inert dummy ammunition around to get mixed up. And here's a news flash for everyone, drawing a firearm and pointing it at a camera that has a director and a cinematographer standing right there is a common practice when shooting a movie, John Wayne did it, Clint Eastwood has done it, Keanu Reeves has done it and so on and so forth, all your favorite stars have, that's exactly why an armorer is on the set, to make sure a firearm isn't capable of shooting the director or the cameraman. Alec Baldwin is going after a defective product angle because even though it's not his fault for being the one that was handling the firearm it's his fault as the producer for not having a competent armorer running the firearms end of things on that set, a defective product is his only out.
@@dukecraig2402 After Brandon Lee's death basic gun safety, as John demonstrated, was the procedure to be followed. John even said it in a previous video. Alec could have easily looked in the open end of the chamber to see if a round was present, and if there was a bullet attached to it. Many things will come out of this trial to hopefully prevent another tragedy like this. I believe there will be a lot of blame to go around. Very sad for everyone involved.
My double action revolver hangs on the wall loaded and in all these years has yet to fire itself. Same with my semi autos, my rifles, and my shotguns. Not once in 40+ years have they jumped down or out and fired a single shot by them self.
I had a friend let us stay with him for a while and he would tell us stories of him and his army buddies loading every ordinance they could get their hands on and throw them over a high wall to see if they could get them to fire. Not a one went off by itself.
I stand behind Alec, because there’s no way I’m standing in front of him.
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Made me giggle.
When Alec Baldwin said that he felt no guilt, he lost me. I thought to myself, even if I had taken every precaution, done everything right, I would still feel guilty for the rest of my life.
He was instructed to say this. It's a loaded question. Guilt implies responsibility. Responsibility in this scenario means imprisonment.
He's a left-wing nutjob and an entitled celebrity. What did you expect? Two levels of sociopathy on top of one another.
Absolutely. Anyone would feel guilty.
You noticed it also? When Brandon Lee was shot by Michael Massee, Massee quit acting from a year and even until his death, was haunted by it.
@@Teppest33 exactly. Meanwhile Alec Baldwin was literally shopping at Ralph Lauren going about his celebrity life.
Good job John, I was an armorer in the Army during my first deployment to Iraq, thank you for sharing this informative video.
I was an Infantryman in the Army and there was never an accident that I was aware of the entire time I was in.
@@xtraflo
Working for big guns and there is always something that will cause an incident with ammunition.
Safety first.....
Every cowboy movie I've ever seen.They're constantly pointing guns at each other and pulling the trigger with Blanks... But alec baldwin removed his blank and put a live round in it 🤔.. 😂
Do you know how stupid you sound john..😅
@@xtraflo They military runs a pretty tight ship when it comes to firearms safety for the most part. I've had a few small ranges where there were a few logistical issues and the only real accident was from our combat engineer platoon. Every now and then you get the occasional trigger happy idiot that shoots too soon They were doing bounding drills and someone slipped and ended up hitting his buddy in the back of the head just under the helmet. Accidents do happen even if everything was done right but I wouldn't even remotely equate that to the negligence of Alec Baldwins fuck up. I'll never forget sitting in church and seeing all his close friends crying, a real tragedy.
What I love about this is that it shows VERY clearly EXACTLY how the firing mechanism on that model of gun works, you can be vague or make up something all you want but that is a hands on demonstration that shows what is what, its hard to really argue with that. It's a shame Alec is so deluded about what really happened, imagine if all these years and all this energy he spent being anti gun, he had just taken 1 gun safety course from a qualified instructor...someone would still be alive today.
Exactly, even if you're anti gun, which is ok, if you're going to handle a gun then at least know how to handle it.
@@dougupah8778 I am anti sword and anti halberd myself
Alec Baldwin is an anti Gun, anti Gun Safety, pro hypocrite pro Gun murderer. Only some ass in Hollywood could achieve that.
The usual tenants of firearm safety don't apply at all on a movie set. Completely different world. All firearms handling and safety should be conducted by the armorer and the AD. When you start handing out responsibility for these things to actors or people with other jobs, you fuck with something called LIABILITY
@Doug Upah anti gun, then why did they order over 500 rounds to just shoot while on set? Nowadays, everyone says whatever won't get them canceled or attacked. If you think being gay is wrong, do you think any famous person would ld have the balls to say it🤔🤣 NOPE .... he probably has a gun in his home for protection. And remember you better agree with the group you surround yourself with because if not you will get blk listed. I don't believe a word famous people say because 99% of them are fake and could give two shits about you.... Hence, he why he says he doesn't feel any guilt. Stright scumbag rich pompous ass that should and would be in jail if they were a regular citizen.
It’s good to see someone in show business, a seasoned member, calling out the nonsense that most of Hollywood wants to push as truth. God bless you Mr. Schneider.
@BayMac If you’ve never really heard of him then he’s well known from the TV show “The Dukes of Hazard” from the early 1980’s and “Smallville” from the early 2000’s.
@@marcelo6707 Never heard of him,🤔
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You must be very young.
The problem is John is extremely partisan. If Alec was a republican this video would never be made. I lean right, love the Dukes, and I'm not a fan of Alex's politics but this just reeks of kicking someone when they are down because they don't subscribe to your politics.
@@christopherflynn Bull, George Clooney said basically the same thing. I know many experienced and responsible gun owners, all are livid over this, no matter the party. Same when Republican Dick Chaney shot his hunting partner. My very conservative father never stopped saying he should have been charged!!
Thanks John for standing up and speaking the truth when “other” Celebrities won’t!
What’s even more disgusting was in the Interview on ABC Alec Baldwin stated he did NOT feel responsible for the shooting. Very disturbing to me that he feels NOTHING was his fault.
Has an autopsy been preformed?
Was that poor lady pregnant?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Pure speculation on my part, but I remember what Ted Kennedy did.🤔
Evil has no conscience. Alec Baldwin is a leftist with no conscience and his past behavior proves he is a evil person.
@Strum Bum He's a narcissist, that's why - classic traits of one!
well what do you expect narcissist's don't think they're wrong on anything or anything bad is ever their fault!!
Baldwin is a nut job to start with !
John is a down to earth guy and has my respect for his candid example on this subject. Hope to see him in a movie soon.
Thank you John for keeping it real. I believe there is wayyyyyyy more to this story than we will ever know.
Which reminds me of another tragedy from Las Vegas
It sounds like the prop people were out playing with guns the weekend before, Alec and nobody checked gun before scene.
Are you thinking something else. Like what? Intentional murder.. maybe a secret government setup? C'mon. It was just a parade of irresponsible actions.
@@Horizontreecare It's suspicious but I haven't been able to find a good source on how the lady killed was gonna be part of a Hollywood exposé
Huh.i hadn't heard that. He seems like a guy who wouldnt do that. Or needs to. His wife is nutters but ... Oh wait maybe
@@Horizontreecare Like what? Intentional murder.. Hmm, could be, kinda like, a hush move? At this point, you can't rule out anything..........
I worked with John on a movie that included firearms. He and everyone else treated them with respect and caution. Super nice guy too!
Sure you did
@@JMRabil675 I did
I believe you. There is always a Karen in UA-cam comments. 🤷🏼♀️
The usual tenants of firearm safety don't apply at all on a movie set. Completely different world. All firearms handling and safety should be conducted by the armorer and the AD. When you start handing out responsibility for these things to actors or people with other jobs, you fuck with something called LIABILITY
I like to hear that. He clearly knows the ins and outs of this single action.
I hear people taking Alec Baldwin's side in this matter, speaking about how _"he didn't, or couldn't know"_ that there was a live round in the chamber, or how it's the responsibility of the Armorer on-set to ensure that the _"prop gun is safe."_
What John just demonstrated perfectly is what every gun safety course teaches as one of the (if not THE) most important things that you can teach someone who purchases a firearm:
*_"When you're given a weapon, your first responsibility is to CLEAR THE WEAPON!"_*
That means, you need to make certain that there are no rounds of any sort that are chambered, or loaded for use in the magazine/cylinder. That includes dummy rounds, blanks, live rounds, or anything else that could obstruct the chamber and/or barrel.
Nevermind the fact that live rounds should never be on the set! That's an entirely separate matter, which is likely the responsibility of the Armorer; and she should face her day in court for her neglect of duty.
What matters is that it's obvious that Alec *DID NOT* clear the weapon, because had he done so, he wouldn't have killed someone with that weapon. The responsibility for clearing the weapon lay 100% on the shoulders of the person to whom the weapon is being handed. That was Alec; and *HE DIDN'T CLEAR THE WEAPON!* Regardless of anything else that people want to say, someone is dead, because someone grossly neglected his safety responsibilities.
As for the notion that it was a _"prop gun:"_ Folks, an actual _"prop gun"_ is something that may look and/or sound like a gun, but it can't fire live rounds. It isn't an actual gun. It lacks either a proper firing mechanism, barrel, or even a proper working chambering mechanism. What Alec had in his hands was an actual single action revolver, which was built to fire live rounds. Even had he confirmed that there were blanks in the weapon, he should *NEVER* have pointed the weapon at someone, while fooling around on the set like some comic book hero.
Baldwin has been acting like an immature teenager. Even if he isn't found guilty of manslaughter, he should never be allowed to go near a firearm, replica, or prop gun for the rest of his life. He has demonstrated no accountability for his actions, which means that he's a high risk for this happening to some other unsuspecting victims.
They should pay you for that response.👍👍👍
Well said
It Proves Baldwin is a LIAR
That would require that AB have integrity and own up to him messing up...
But his ego can't handle that hit at all...
Actually the term "prop" is for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING on set, ie "property". It does NOT mean it isn't a real one. A real gun used on set IS properly called a prop gun.
He looks like he's done this a time or two - he's no stranger to owning and using firearms. I like John Schneider more and more every day.
John this is an excellent demonstration of how the gun operates and why gun safety is paramount. When you have people walking off the set because of safety concerns you know there’s serious issues. A gun doesn’t just shoot by itself. The trigger was pulled by Alec and he needs to answer why the gun was loaded, why wasn’t it sufficiently checked and why there wasn’t proper gun safety on set.
Perfect description and explanation, down to why there would be a reason to point the weapon. It all plays out to the same reasoning as when you ask a child with chocolate all over their face "Did you eat the chocolate", and they answer "No I didn't eat the chocolate". They don't want to be responsible or admit what they have done.
Right right so what you're saying is Alec Baldwin is a little kid with chocolate all over his face? Lol but not really!
@@kristopherbeer5422 I in no way say that a loss of life is even comparable to chocolate, more the situation him trying to avoid his roll in it. If that's what you drew from it you are sadly mistaken.
I didn't eat the chocolate, it tried to eat me...
Stupid comparison!!
@@enricomandragona163 Excellent rebuttal !!!
I've shot single action revolvers for over 50 years and everything you have stated John is 100 percent correct. Sadly it is apparent Alec failed to double check his weapon. If a firearm is passed around a room and 12 people handle the weapon there should be 12 separate inspections.
What Baldwin is going to go for is a defective product angle, and his narrative the other day was coached by his lawyers.
And actually what he's going to say is feasible, if you remember from day one it was established that he was practicing quick draws, if his finger was off the trigger and the pistol had a defective trigger mechanism than it is feasible that it could have happened the way he said, if he drew it and "fanned" the trigger, or cocked it any other style associated with a quick draw, expecting it to stay cocked then it could very well have gone off, a defective trigger mechanism could even bypass the half cock safety feature of an exposed hammer type firearm like a single action revolver or even a lever action rifle.
Now as we all know that's not what happened which brings me to the next point, and that has to do with everyone through all the comments sections of all these videos addressing this tragedy from day one, the subject of firearms safety, everyone keeps ragging on Baldwin as if he was a shooter at a range or even handling a firearm at home, those rules don't apply here, this is a Hollywood movie set and the people handling these firearms are not shooters, collectors or someone at the range, they're actors, there's armorers on these sets that are responsible for these firearms and their safety, ie there never should have been live ammo on the set much less in a firearm that was handed to an actor who was assured it was safe, ie a "cold gun".
Actor's are not by their nature people who are into firearms, that's exactly why they have people to coach them on how to handle them in a realistic fashion, and sitting around on a movie set practicing quick draws is something that's even expected of an actor so they give a realistic performance, just the other night I watched a Gregory Peck movie where the premise is he's the fastest gun in the west and has a reputation that causes him problems everywhere he goes from some young punks always wanted to challenge him, you can bet that in between takes Mr Peck was sitting around practicing quick draws for the sake of not looking stupid on screen, you can even bet John Wayne did it in between takes on the movies he starred in.
As far as checking to see if it's loaded that's also a mute point, once again we're not at the range or at home, this is a movie set and inert "dummy" bullets are loaded in movie guns all the time for the sake of realism, the same exact people who are ragging on Baldwin for not checking to see if it was loaded are the same people that would rag all over the movie for someone brandishing a revolver that is obviously unloaded, once again that's why these armorers are on these movie sets, one of their responsibilities is to make sure that the ammo in a firearm is inert dummy ammo and not live ammunition, how exactly would the actor know the difference?
Which brings things full circle here, Baldwin has to play the defective product angle, because even though it's not his responsibility as an actor to make sure that firearm was safe but it was his responsibility as a producer to make sure it was a safe movie set via having hired a competent armorer to make 100% sure that when a firearm is placed in an actors hand and they're told it's a "cold gun" (meaning it's safe) that it is indeed safe.
Now I want to be clear on something, I'm in no way shape or form an Alec Baldwin fan, the fact is I can't stand him, nor am I defending him but I'm just being realistic about how things are run on a movie set concerning firearms safety, you can't realistically expect an anti gun leftist Hollywood flake to know basic firearms safety, and once again these firearms aren't on a shooting range nor are they being handled in someone's home which are both environments that basic firearms safety rules are meant for, a movie set is an entirely different story.
All that being said yes, Alec Baldwin is responsible for her death, but not because he himself was handling that firearm, he's responsible because as the producer it was on him to make sure that a competent armorer was hired to run the show with those firearms, he'd be just as responsible as if it was another actor who shot her under the same circumstances and he was the producer.
but why in the hell did someone hand him a weapon with REAL ammunition on a set?
@@tonytorres8062 yep. And possibly he is totally gun illiterate. Still you never point a weapon at someone.
@@tonytorres8062 why was there real ammo on a set to be in a gun?
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That's exactly the point, there never should have been live ammo on that set, think about it, how can you as the actor handling the firearm tell if it's live ammo or the inert dummy ammo that's loaded in guns in movies for the sake of realism?
Which is what makes it so stupid when all these people are saying "He didn't follow basic firearms safety and check to see if the gun was loaded".
And here's another news flash for everyone who's saying "He pointed it at her, why'd he do that?"
Watch any movie that has a lot of gun action in it, it's very common for actors to point a firearm at the camera, it's called dramatic effect, and the director and camera man are standing right there.
John Wayne did it, Clint Eastwood has done it, Keanu Reeves has done it, it's called cinematography, pointing the gun at the camera for getting that dramatic shot on film, it's a common practice in the movies to do it.
Hey John, long time no see; I worked with you on Dukes at the Burbank Studios ages ago. You are displaying common sense gun handling that we are lacking in modern filmmaking when producers hire none professional, none union personnel. As a union propman I have handed hundreds of weapons to actors without one incident, not one injury. The plain and simple truth is she died because of extremely unprofessional gun handling on so many levels. Nobody but the gun handlers, prop people, and actors should ever touch any weapon on a set and there should never be any live (real) ammunition anywhere near the set. Thanks for posting this video.
Are you people nuts real guns have no place on a movie set it's make believe not real so why would you need to check a gun that's being used for make believe on a movie set? the person in charged of the PLAY GUNS IS RESPONSIBLE NOT THE ACTOR! I'M A GUNSMITH and if I was on a movie set play acting in a movie the last thing I would do would be to check to see if a play gun on a movie set was loaded ! Do you check your child's gun before you give it to them OF COURSE NOT BECAUSE IT'S A NONE LETHAL GUN ON A MOVIE SET and how many people knew that real firearms were used in movies not me I was shocked I was a block from the movie set in Wilmington NC when Brandon Lee was killed by a movie prop gun So I guess Hollywood has not learned from past mistakes
@@kennethlong2280 I’ve handled weapons on sets for thirty-five years and the vast majority of them were real guns. The only time we used fake replicas on set was for background actors who didn’t need to fire a weapon on camera. As I see it the main issues are unqualified people handling guns and the lack of safety training. Anyone who touches the weapons has a responsibility to make sure they are safe. The only people who should ever touch the weapons are the armorer, the prop master and prop assistants, and the actors/ stunt people. All guns, at all times should be handled as if they are real and loaded until proven otherwise. As I said, the vast majority of weapons on sets are real; there are some that have had baffles put in the barrels in order to create enough back pressure to chamber the next round. As far as being NUTS; if being nuts means never having anyone hurt by one of my prop weapons in three decades because I followed strict safety rules, than I’m as nuts as it gets.
@@kennethlong2280 I understand what you're saying, especially with the technology we have today it's easy to make a toy gun look authentic enough for the movies there is no need for real guns on sets anymore. But in saying that many movie sets have used real guns before and through their own safety measures no one was hurt. This is not an argument for or against, it's a plea to those who wish to use real guns apply the correct safety measures every other movie that has used real guns without any fatalities used. The simple fact of the matter is that an incredible lack of gun safety was missing on that set. Why? We could argue about if they only used toys, it would never happen, but as was said before countless movies have been made with real guns without fatalities. At the end of the day those in charge choose real guns but failed to ensure proper safety measures were being used, the end result being the loss of lives.
@@StanslaMichael They actually have them and that's what should have been used, this was just a rehearsal.
@kennethlong2280 thank you for getting to the point most people are missing
Hi John,
I just gotta say,, "Book'em Dano!". LOL...Thank you for an interesting and candid video involving firearm functionality, etiquette, and responsible firearm ownership. As an owner of a true 1873 Colt Single Action Army (thank you Great Grand-Dad Charlee) and some earlier Italian Made Replicas, which used the original patented design, got me to thinking about this issue. "There's gonna be a hang'n!". These models had "fixed" firing pins, held in place with the "firing pin rivet". Both original patented and replica actions operate with the pulling back of a serrated hammer with a "fixed in-place" firing pin; the hammer's 1st click position WAS the safety feature "of the day", preventing the firing pin from resting on a live cylinder, but only if the handler of the gun utilized this feature. From the 2nd click position, the loading gate is operable; if you were to load six rounds, you'd end up resting the firing pin on the primer of one cartridge in the cylinder, if the hammer did not rest in the 1st click/safety position. Danger, Danger Mr. Ranger there, for all the city slickers. And it wouldn't have been so uncommon for a careless hand or gun owner to somehow drop, bump, smack or strike the hammer somehow, resulting in an accidental discharge. Instead of being stupid is as stupid does, and with the hammer in the 2nd position, with the loading gate open, is the practice of loading 1 cylinder, skip the 2nd cylinder, then load the rest of 4 more, close the loading gate, then complete the cocking action from the 1/2 cocked position, still readily holding the hammer, as the cylinder rotates to the empty one you skipped and slowly depress the trigger, which allows for the gunman to gently release the hammer, resulting in the firing pin at rest on the empty cylinder that was skipped over, during the loading process. The Spring loaded firing pins of today were more recently introduced and designed as an additional safety feature, preventing accidental discharges of the firearm without the hammer being fully cocked, in the 4th click position. The reason for this updated feature is that it didn't take much at all to discharge a cartridge, if the hammer had the firing pin resting on a live chamber. Getting bumped or snagged we will say, while riding, sitting in a chair, in a saloon brawl or the snagging of the hammer on a piece of clothing or a shrub, as you rode by on your horse was and is probable, but still, not very likely. If a single action firearm with a fixed firing pin is partially cocked, right up to the point "before" the hammer engages the 1st click of 4, and/or the "safety" position, and the hammer is suddenly released on a loaded cylinder, there most certainly is enough spring tension on the hammer, that when released or flicked in such a way along with having a fixed/riveted firing pin, a cartridge can, most likely would not, but there is an undeniable risk of a discharge. Another related feature of these Single Action Colts is the off-set of the trigger, as to its position within the trigger guard. The trigger location favors the left side of guard well in such a way, that a left-handed shooter wearing gloves or with fat fingers could unknowingly/accidentally depress the trigger with the fat of the forward left index finger, while gripping around the guns guard and cocking it using the thumb. The same type of firing could be induced when fanning the gun, but the depression of the trigger in fanning cannot ever be seen as unintentional. Lastly, even with a worn or broken hammer spring/sear, this model firearm doesn't usually discharge without depression of the trigger. Anyway, I wanted to share my experience with and thoughts about the patented Colt 1873 Single Action Revolver and the Replicas of yester-year and today. At the very least, I call "Manslaughter". Merry Christmas and I wish you a great upcoming year in 2022.
Respectfully,
JP
Most modern SAAs today are called "three click" actions. I have never been 100% sure why the action should change because of the receding pin. Certainly there was some fear of liability that made them switch to the receding pin though but I've never had a direct answer why the three clicks instead of four. The last one I bought from Uberti came with a three-click receding pin so I purchased an aftermarket hammer/trigger/latch kit that comes with a fixed pin and a classic four-click action. Also on classic four-click actions if you watch and listen very closely there is actually a "fifth" click at the very top of the action again idk why. I think it is the trigger sear falling into the notch and then pressing upward against it, I don't really know.
At any rate, none of this should impact the gun going off unless it was dropped or something. The only way the gun could fire without pulling the trigger is if the notch on the hammer or the trigger latch literally broke off in that exact moment he was holding it. Which is not technically impossible in my opinion but so unlikely as to be basically impossible.
John, I truly appreciate you not letting this go. Especially with your decades of experience and perspective being in the film industry. Alec needs to be held accountable for the tragic death of Halyna Hutchins. Not only as the person who shot her, but as it was his production company that was responsible as well for the gross negligence of firearms use on the set and chain of custody of the firearm in question. Thank you!!!
The gun that John used looks like a Taylor's 45 Colt stage coach pistol. However a real traditional Colt 45 made by Colt does not have a transfer bar safety and to carry one safe only 5 rounds are loaded with the hammer down on an empty chamber. Once the hammer is cocked or even fanned the cylinder is going to turn to a loaded chamber...... Bang!!
He'll never be charged, sued yes, but never charged with a crime!!!
@@mikep5695 Evidently New Mexico isn't Hollywood 😉
I can't wait for the moment in court when the prosecutor hands Baldwin THE ACTUAL REVOLVER AND SAYS....ok....show us what you did to make this
gun fire without pulling the trigger.....THAT will be a CLASSIC moment!
Hopefully he doesn't pull a 'Binger'.
Will not happen a gun Smith will examine it if the trigger mechanism jammed it will show.
@@carrollsanders9376 And if it was in perfect mechanical condition? I am sure the prosecutor will want to put him on the spot....whether he is stupid enough to take the stand is another question.....but considering he was dumb enough to give that interview....I wouldn't
put it past him....would you?
Remember u dont have to pull the trigger to make gun go off..just the hammer enuff to slam firing pin will hit primer on bullet shell..
@@bobbygzzz7116 ummmm.....no. As you start pulling back the hammer on a revolver the cylinder starts to rotate.....even in the unlikely event
that the hammer was pulled back a small amount before it went into half cock position....and slipped.....and assuming again that the
hammer had enough inertia to detonate a primer....the primer would not be under the hammer any more as the cylinder has rotated a partial cycle.
John, you are the voice of sanity! Thank you! 👍 Still one of my favorite people, actors and awesome dude!
Man, I love the sound of a single action Colt when turning the cylinder. Those clicks are so cathartic.
I stand behind Alec, because I would never stand in front of him.
I still wouldn't trust him. He managed to shoot two persons with one bullet.
@@Ulvetann Isn't that a dream come true for snipers? One bullet two hits?
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hahahahaha, Alec lied and got away with murder. No one hand him a nuclear missile please.
Thank you , John Schneider for teaching the non firearms people how a single action Colt works..I am so happy you, sir, are knowledgeable in firearms safety.
Stay safe and don't go near Alec. lol
Excellent advice -- don't go near someone who demonstrates ignorance or disdain for the most basic safety measures. But...how does someone who's also ignorant know that the person holding the gun is an accident waiting to happen? If for no other reason than to protect yourself from the Baldwins of the world, EVERYONE should have a basic understanding of what is safe and what is unsafe. Apparently, the camera crew that walked off the set knew enough to realize that their workplace was hazardous to their health...and that knowledge may have saved their lives.
who'd want to go near that pos in the first place??
next witness for the prosecution in the trial of ........ and watch the view and MSN rally round their boy - the justice for thee but not for me crowd - wonder how many prisoners have had sex with a hollywood star - standby we might find out - rough house no lube
It is already (well-documented), but a certain (very) well known actor, once called his daughter “a *#%cow”. Very sad, as in pathetic, that Baldwin refuses to admit the truth.
@Miraak AB is a Jackass Mr. Schneider is just too classy to say that.
I think everything points to Baldwin already holding down the trigger when he was fanning it. When he remembers it he might legitimately think he did not hold down the trigger, when really he was holding it down the entire time.
I hadn't heard that before... that's an interesting possibility. The way I understood it, he wasn't fanning it in that scene, but they mentioned that the gun had been fanned to point out that the fanning could have damaged the action, which then failed. Since he claimed that once they got the angle right, the director had him cock the hammer and when he took his thumb off, the hammer supposedly fell without him pulling the trigger, then he could claim that he didn't do it on purpose. The problem with that theory is that fanning doesn't damage the catches between the trigger and hammer, it damages the "bolt" that locks the cylinder in place. Either way, the armorer should have checked the gun for both being unloaded AND for any faults in the action before handing Baldwin the gun... and he should have checked it as well. It's understandable that he wouldn't know enough to check the action for proper operation, but he should at least have known how to check if it was loaded knowing he was going to be pointing it at people. It may very well have been an accident, but he's still responsible for it since he could have prevented it.
Excellent information presented in a clear, easy to understand manner. Good job!
I once handed a rifle to my then 14 yr old son. The first thing he did was to open the bolt to check if it was empty. Gun safety 101! It was a proud moment for me.
I watched my son put one down in front of my then THREE YEAR OLD grandson and he knew at that age; don't touch. He's almost 15 now and knows his stuff.
A few years ago of two men videoed their session at a shooting range. The 10-year-old daughter of one was also at the shooting range. The other man handed the girl's father a pistol without locking the slide back and ensuring it was not loaded. The ten year-old girl immediately scolded the man for handing her father a gun without ensuring it was not loaded. The other man humbly apologized to the girl, told her she was correct, and promised to never do that again. The look of pride on the girl's father's face was obvious. (The video might still be on UA-cam.)
You handled that firearm safely and thoughtfully.
Except putting his finger on the trigger before verifying it was empty.
@@Gregwing good eye he certainly did at the start
No he didn't
@@Gregwing literally came here to say that. Starts the video out and immediately shows no trigger discipline lol
@@professorneturman2249 yes he did...approx 12 sec . mark
Muzzle control was fine , but his finger went to trigger.
Thank you so much John for explaining this. God bless. ❤️🇱🇷
After reading your comment on my fan page, I realized how much you like and follow my page . Thanks for your support and positive vibe 💖💖💖
I love seeing Pa Kent teaching me about gun safety! What a Good Ole' Boy! Great seeing John again, you are like a long lost friend showing up in my UA-cam feed.
The sad thing is, is that even after watching this extraordinary demonstration, people who support Alec will completely ignore the facts solely based on his political leanings. That is sick imo.
worse than sick...it is downright dangerous.
He's a liar because he's an actor and a Liberal....plus he's guilty.
@D Legionnaire Balwin could have planted live rounds to cover his tracks to blame others for what he did to try to save his own hide.
Alec Baldwin will unfortunately most likely go unpunished because of his LIBERAL PRIVALGE.
and that stupid interview he did where he admitted to pulling the hammer back without admitting to having his finger on the trigger.
This makes me so happy to see other celebrities calling out Baldwin's blatant lie. It was his fault no matter what he says. The first thing any smart gun owner does is check to see if its empty
Even a gun novice knows that pointing a gun and pulling the trigger is not something to take lightly when you yourself didn't secure it.
@country
There you go, equating Alec Baldwin with being smart!!!
He’s smart alright, smart enough to kill in broad daylight in front of multiple witnesses and claim absolutely no responsibility for it!!!
John you the man !!! Love the Christmas song that you guys just dropped !!!!
Thank you so much for showing me about the gun how to take it apart and explaining about the functions of the gun. It's been very helpful!
This just proves what we all knew. The good old boys are a heck of a lot smarter than city boys. Especially the pompous ones.
Much Love and Respect to you and yours!
NOT really John just pointing fingers and condemned someone he failed miserably!
@@carrollsanders9376 - ok Alec
I believe the word your looking for is capable! Country boys/girls are more capable!
@@carrollsanders9376 - How often have you taken the time to hang out with country folks? I'm betting you never have! You'd know better otherwise! You're just a typical Progressive who can't wait to progress backwards!
@@aarongoodwin4845 I stand corrected 🙂
Mr. Schneider I'm so glad you are a true American! I grew up watching you and I always looked up to you and Tom Wopat. And so many other's I watched growing up I found out later in life are really terrible people. Happy knowing that you are genuine and hope I get to meet you someday and thank you for all the great childhood memories.
Hey there John,
AWESOME VIDEO AND YOU SHOWING US BOUT SAFETY OF THE COLT.. THANKS SO MUCH.
Thank you Bo. Great demonstration.
"Just the good old boys....never meanin' no harm...."
One of the greatest TV shows of all time. Thanks for the memories Mr. Schneider!
Sadly the Woke crowd made it go away in syndication,but they can’t take our memories.
Much respect to you sir. I couldn't stomach watching Baldwin's entire interview, but from the bits and pieces I caught on youtube, he shifted the blame to every other person even Halyna herself, yet never once accepted ANY responsibility or apologized. He is a narcissistic egomaniac without an ounce of humility or grace. I pray he answers for this crime despite his wealth and fame. She had her whole life ahead of her, and a 9 y/o child is left without a mother.
Baldwin is a Socialpath and never feels guilt for anything much less this shooting. People like him never take responsibility for anything, always blaming someone else.
Great job John! You covered every angle on how the gun can be fired and why it can't be accidently fired unless you actually pull the trigger. I imagine the only possibility of the gun going off accidently, without the trigger being pulled, is if it is dropped and lands on the end of the hammer, and there is a round in that chamber but since the gun wasn't dropped that disqualifies that possibility. Baldwin had to have squeezed the trigger for that gun to fire. There are no two ways about it. Thanks for the demonstration.
Thanks for your commitment to safety and for the clear and consistent explanation of what would be involved on set.
Great demo... also clearly shows how guns do not fire themselves . Thanks.
Most of the general public, and specifically, non-gun owners that have never handled a firearm, let alone a single action revolver, would never know how to manipulate the action. The interview appeared to be a clear attempt by Alec Baldwin and his legal team to shift blame from him to an inanimate object in the hopes of influencing any potential jury members in future litigation. What a tragic event that could have been completely avoided by basic firearm safety measures. Mr. Baldwin and multiple others inability to keep live ammunition off a movie set and to practice basic firearm safety resulted is loss of life and injury. Mr. Baldwin, take responsibility for your part and own up to your mistake as well as the Armorer and other members of that crew.
alec's interview was for city idiots like me who never fired a gun. thing is, I have common sense and I know better than to assume a gun is unloaded, I also know never to point a gun at anyone unless I want to shoot em, and never rest your trigger finger on the trigger. But, if I know this is because my dad taught me. I also know a gun is NOT a toy. Alec saw the gun as a prop and not a real gun, so he thought he could do anything without consequences.
The only reason you think it was an "accident" is because his PR team had the media call it an "accident"
@@shouygui4955 Call and get an accidental shooting with a prop gun on the 911 call. You’ve got to wonder how long did they think with their statement should be before they picked up the phone and actually made that call.
I get called for jury duty every time I'm eligible, it's always a wasted day but I'd love to serve on Alec's jury.
Yeah seriously! Hell he's got enough money to buy his way out of it!
Love the lesson and love you John. God bless you ❤❤❤
I just discovered your channel and I really enjoy the videos. Thanks you and keep up the good work.
Well done, John. There are a whole lot of responsible shooters who are also lovers of film, who appreciate your efforts to expose the lack of firearm safety on the 'Rust' set. The anti-gun crowd needs to understand that it wasn't the gun that caused this tragedy. It was simple disregard for safety protocols. Thank you for using your platform to spread the word.
I haven't ruled out murder as a possibility. But probably just lack of understanding safety.
I’m pretty sure that this is where this tragedy is going.. It’s the guns fault and therefor they are going to try and push gun control. It’s coming you watch🙄AnyOne with slight knowledge of guns know that Mr. Baldwin’s story just does NOT Add up or make sense whatsoever...
Definitely missing pieces
@@since1876 it’s not murder. It was negligence!!! His negligence will get him a manslaughter charge. Please educate yourself what that means and understand the difference
LARRY im in total agreement with you sir
@@accesstotheredcarpet Since you DON'T know what was in his mind, you CAN'T know if it was murder or not...
Gun use and safety needs to be taught in grade school. I grew up with loaded guns behind every door and was taught gun use/safety by the time I could walk and it was also taught in Jr. High School. A completely safe environment.
I know many older folk who say that many of the students pickup trucks parked at school had rifle racks wifh weapons on them and there was never a thought of a school shooting.
The times haven't changed, the general level of public idiocy has.
@@ant88310 Exactly. Guns is a tool like the wheel that has been around hundreds of years. Gun don't kill people. People kill people.
@@ant88310 I am Canadian, and even though our firearms laws are tighter than the USA, there was a time in the late ‘70s when I had a gun rack in my truck rear window with a couple of rifles and a shotgun. Unloaded of course. Never locked the truck, parked at high school. Me and my buddies would hunt or go drink beer and plink after school. Times sure have changed.
@Mills Rickman Amen brother.
there were loaded weapons all over my house growing up. my dad took us to the range at 5 yrs old. responsibility and respect is 100% needed at all times.
Alec is guilty for firing and the Armorer is guilty for not checking to make sure blanks were loaded.
John. Absolutely on pointe and well said. Thank you for explaining it so very well.
Alex needs to admit he screwed up big time and mishandled the weapon, I’m with you John in that gun can’t discharge by itself unless there was a huge malfunction.
The bottom line is the chain of responsibility and safety was severely broken, God bless the Families of the victims and I hope they get a true honest outcome.
That would mean he’s financially and criminally responsible for her murder
Admitting you are in error does not happen with the perfect and all knowing left crowd. Their actions have no consequence.
@@dfb1111 That also applies to the right crowd also.
@@dfb1111 Pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if the left would want to ban the word "facts" from the vocabulary.
Baldwin is a malignant narcissist, and is thus unable to accept responsibility for nearly anything he does. Furthermore he will continue to talk about the incident against his attorneys express orders to his own detriment. He literally can't help himself.
That was one of the best safety and function checks I have seen. Job well done. Great knowledge of the single action you have.
Great demo on single action safety process.
Thank you for clearing this up. John.
You are clearly trained with firearms. You just informed a lot of people how to properly check a weapon to see if it's CLEAR, Thanks John.
With this new generation it's a must
Dead on demonstration. The empty chamber myth is for older guns ànd usually from horseback
He did a lot of the firearms checks on Smallville as well, if I recall correctly, especially in the few scenes he had a gun.
He was overkill, but through
He doesn’t appear to be trained. If he was trained he would not be pointing at the camera man and he would be keeping his finger off the trigger. Trigger discipline is the most basic of all handgun safety.
He claimed in the interview that he was slowly cocking it back with no finger on the trigger...and apparently the hammer slipped from his thumb and moved forward on its own, causing the firing pin to strike the bullet. However, when the director was interviewed by police, he said Baldwin was practicing a cross draw.
Sheered lead in the trigger mechanism, could have caused the trigger to jam back, when he released the hammer at full draw he experienced the Phenomenon Notch effect and the hammer did not contact any of the Catches on the trigger.
Except it's impossible for the hammer to "slip". There are stopping points (as John clearly demonstrated) that prevent the hammer from accidentally striking the round. The first position would have stopped it. And Alec has claimed he never pulled the trigger...which is actually impossible given that the hammer DID engage the round. Alec lied. Period. To be fair, although he absolutely did NOT practice ANY weapon safety, someone else was responsible for there even being a live round in the weapon. Personal opinion: Negligent homicide on the part of the armorer, the person who handed Alec the weapon and Alec himself.
If he was pulling back the hammer and letting it go it would stop and lock at the first catch on the hammer. It wont go all the way forward unless u have the trigger pulled.
@@carrollsanders9376 Nope.
@@robosteveo Had it happen to me on a 45 Colt Army!
Commendation to you for having someone on, who clearly knows what he’s talking about. Having ten years as a gun and rifle totter and an armourer in the military, I’ve witnessed so many self taught experts handle weapons in a way that makes me cringe. I also hear people talk about how the military accepts less safety in battle conditions. Nothing can be further from the truth. The crazier things get, the smarter at handling weapons you need to be. You can be submissive in your role when your responsible for a weapon. You must assertively stop anyone from mis handling a weapon your responsible for as well as stopping someone taking on your role when they have no authority to do so. Although an AD have more authority than an armourer, safety trumps everything and an armourer does not allow an AD to determine the status of a weapon or to remove a weapon from the cart. I hate to say this but as a young woman with little experience the armourer might not have been able to have complete control. The AD had a reputation for being reckless so on the first day she should have met with the director and AD in question to lay down the ground rules and stop filming when the AD acted outside those rule with the agreed support of the director or you walk away from the job. All sorts of people in every life situation do things they shouldn’t so if you can’t deal with that find a less dangerous job. There, I said my peace.
I love John's explanation of a single action pistol.
Great demonstration. As far as being a “pain in the butt” goes, people in all kinds of fields (including myself) have to go through time consuming safety protocol everyday and that’s without firearms being present. Thanks John for not letting this blow over. It needs to be addressed.
The issue is that actors are not firearm experts and they don't have any control over most of the process. Physically checking at that point just serves to increase the likelihood of an accident happening. The Crow was a great example, an actor would not have found that bit of material lodged in the revolver as an actor wouldn't expect to look for it there. Similarly, there wasn't supposed to be a live round on the set and they're still trying to figure out where it came from.
It's not about being a "pain in the butt" it's about the fact that entertainment productions like this have different needs from what typical use of a firearm would permit, and it's not fair to hold them to the same set of rules. It would literally make filming impossible.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade First off, how does physically verifying that a gun is empty/safe after it’s been cleared and handed to you increase the likelihood of an accident.?? That idea goes against logic.
Second, if the gun used on the Crow set had been physically checked/ cleared (as John just demonstrated) then the barrel blockage most definitely would have been found and Brandon Lee would not have died that day.
Third, your idea that movie sets shouldn’t be held to the same safety standards that any other situation/job involving firearms would be held to is insane. I quote you “it’s not fair to hold them to the same set of rules”
Also, just so you know, it has been standard practice/protocol on movie sets for decades to have every hand that touches a firearm confirm it’s condition ie loaded/unloaded, prop-gun/real-firearm etc. In this situation Alec Baldwin had over 30 years experience and training using firearms on set in movies and television. The safety protocols have been drilled into his head for years. He did not follow protocol, period. This is the reason for this accident, which killed one person and wounded another. He is at fault. There’s no way around it. It’s not murder, as many are calling it, but it is definitely manslaughter, probably “Criminally negligent manslaughter” or “Involuntary manslaughter “. He is guilty. This doesn’t mean that he should or will go to prison. I don’t believe he should. It does however mean that he will face consequences both monetary and other.
Your statement sounds as if you’re trying to wash away responsibility because they are movie makers/actors. Laws and regulations do not work that way. There’s not a different set for “special people” ie actors & celebrities. Bottom line is, He fucked-up. He fucked-up bad and he’s going to have to pay for it. So will anyone else that touched and cleared that weapon that day. Anyone who cleared that weapon on that day failed at their job and contributed to the situation including Alec. Alec was the last link in the safety chain ( the most important one because it’s your last chance to get it right)and he failed. Now someone is dead and there must be consequences.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade
You really don't know what you're talking about......
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I don't understand how you can make this claim when even George Clooney said that he checks EVERY gun he's handed EVERY time it's handed to him. Not only that, but Baldwin was also one of the producers of this western (a genre that is obviously going to involve a firearm in many scenes) on top of being an actor, therefore I would argue that his need for knowledge on proper gun safety procedure would be even greater than it would be if he was just an actor for the film in question.
Also I don't understand how an actor checking a gun increases the likelihood of an accident occurring. Guns aren't complicated, and proper gun safety for any specific firearm could be taught to literally anybody, yet you make it sound like it's some complicated process that would go over an actor's head.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade you are wrong about everything you just said. But it doesn’t matter now, because John just proved Alec lied. Just like he said. A single action revolver will not fire. Unless you pull the trigger. He killed her. Then lied about his being responsible for it.
I'm not a gun person, and have never taken a gun safety course. That said, everything in this video seems very clear to me. Thank you John.
That is the most important thing that people who don't understand the subject get a very solid understanding of the core subject. Certainly a great video.
Second that
Alec Baldwin get a chance to watch this Tutorial?
@@gmathis4829 the great thing about tv interviews is there are no consequences for lying. In fact its highly encouraged as long as your politics are their politics.
@@Sixstringman Birds of a Feather..... Flock Together, IMHO.
Excellent As Always, John👍🏾👏🏾
Professional as always Big John.
well done John, so nice to see a 'Movie Star' who appreciates a fine pistol, best wishes from Florida, Paul
an he is smart to know his guns ,,,
@@Monza62000 Movie Star?? In What??
@@user-ic9qm8mb4t I am going to take a guess here - you are a libtard aren't you. John is doing a great job in explaining the facts about the gun. Kind of retorting what Libtard Alec rehearsed and did an interview with another Libard Georgie Stepaluphugus. John is a bigger and better man and movie star than Alec ever was.
John is a Legend, not just a star. No matter his amount screen time in Hollywood. I took up Archery because of the Duke boys.
Always did like you now I know why you have a lot of common sense you need to go teach them mother scratchers in Hollywood common sense
"This is the greatest hand gun ever made: The Colt Single Action Army. Six bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves."
-Revolver Ocelot
You're pretty good! 🤠
@@dvaunt3516 activate dead eye bro it's that easy
but with the firing pin on the hammer, you only load 5 and keep the hammer down on the empty chamber.
@@dvaunt3516 there's a 🐻 bear in a mission of metal gear 5 that definitely doesn't die in 6 shots. Gotta use the tranquilizer rifle.
@@airwolf36 That's why the usual (and competition) way of loading a Colt is with 5 bullets. Put one in, skip a chamber and load the other 4. When you're done you'll be over an empty chamber.
Good job on the video, very informative and to the point.
Thank you for going into details about how a pistol works.
I'm from the UK but have handled live weapons in the past, short time in the RAF, it was great to watch someone who knows how to handle a firearm. There are no excuses.
Mic the primer. The depth of strike tells the tail. Even if hindered by a thumb but even half cock will change the strike force. Gee people be smart and figure the facts.
RAF regiment walty cnuts
And yall really got no guns over there no defense???...what happens pre say if your government went completely insane tyrannical and authoritarian on yall how would you guys stop them???..no trying to be a prick either like I'm genuinely interested..do you guys even plan for such an issue??? Would it be like the great English knife or ball bat war or like hows it break down over there...I'm sure you could see why Americans keep them and want them around if put in perspective...of course look at our current president dude can hardly form a sentence in the pocket of China and is insanely dangerous for our nation here and on the world scale..but theres a line american Democrats are dying to cross but know they cant...or they atleast should know we coming off these guns and our 2nd amendment and the constitution in general over our dead bodies...idk America maybe on it way there now...but what about England and the other nations over there...do ppl even try to game plan for such a situation..they all think it's not possible but I agrue this bullshit is some evil human instinct
That was my initial response to hearing about the whole thing. And I thought the same thing Wayyyy back in the day when Brandon Lee got shot on the set of the crow.. There's absolutely positively no excuse for that happening ....ever. The only excuse would be murder.
@@stephanierummel5066 yeah ikr what would the Brits do if Russia invaded too?
I've been impressed with John Schneider ever since the 70's when he starred in "The Dukes of Hazzard". Imo He's always been a down to earth kind of guy. Loved him in Smallville too. Knowledgeable, humble, and I'd like to think, honest. His demonstration here just shows how someone with training, vs someone who is obviously untrained, would use a firearm or prop. Nice work sir.
Except he's wrong and he has limited knowledge. Revolvers absolutely can malfunction and have NDs for a variety of reasons.
The trigger would have to be cooked, Baldwin is a lieing little coward
Didnt even know who this guy was, other than a gun expert. When I saw your comment I thought 'Shit yeah, he is Bo Duke'. He has aged well.
First season was aired in 1979 but it’s really am 80’s show.
No way! I had no idea that was Bo Duke!
THANK YOU! Every American citizen who wants to own weapons (other than those who have rendered owning them illegal) should own as many as they want and “Congress shall not infringe”. The responsibility of EVERY owner is to ALWAYS consider a gun to be loaded and to NEVER point a gun at another human. Alec is guilty. Appreciate your example, John. Thanks again.
“This is wat fire arms safety is all about” proseeds to look down barrel
Love John Schneider! And really appreciate this detailed explanation & look at how to check a pistol. Also really nice that you gave us a valid reason for how the gun could have been pointed at the director. I agree 100% that there is so much about this that doesn’t add up. A woman is dead & a little boy is without his mom. This could have absolutely been avoided.
After reading your comment on my fan page, I realized how much you like and follow my page . Thanks for your support and positive vibe 💖💖💖
Just a good ol boy… showing how a Colt works.
On a side note I went through a lot of toy cars because of the Dukes of Hazard.
Keanu Reeves spent months of training and shooting 1,000’s of rds for each of his John Wick movies and I’m sure gun safety is a major priority for him.
and he never shot anybody....but...even if there was a situation where he did, he would own up to it...by all accounts, keanu reeves is good guy, not at all like baldwin, with his temper and anger
I love that you are pursuing this issue. Thank you so much for speaking the truth.
Great explanation!! I know nothing about guns and I understood everything you said!
Having owned firearms my whole life and taught by my father how to use them, and now owning his own Colt revolver - what you said is 100% accurate. If they showed this video, John, in court there would be zero doubt from the jury either.
WRONG!
@@colecole3352 What about proper gun safety is wrong?
@@sladetheblade9349 John told it tottally correctly!!! None of what he said was wrong.
I spent 26 yrs in the U.S. Army, am a Combat Vet Hon.retired and some of my jobs was: ammo and explosives and taught bio-weapons and nuke warfare and was a Drill Sargent for seven years.
@@colecole3352 Oh ...I guess you'er a big fan of Balwin, eh?
Balwin could have placed live rounds mixed in with the other rounds so he could place blame on others.
I spent 26 yrs in the U.S. Army, a Combat Vet Hon.retired and was a Drill Sargent for seven years. Some of my jobs was ammo and explosives and taught bio-weapons and nuke warfare.
the person who made this video does not have access to the revolver that was involved in the fatal accident on the movie set.
He can play around with the one he has in the video, and take it apart and pull the hammer back all he wants to impress people like you
But he does not know what the revolver that went off on the movie set would do, because HE DOESNT HAVE IT - and HE HAS NEVER TOUCHED IT
the revolver on the movie set was not suppose to have live rounds in it - it was not suppose to have blanks in it at the time - it was suppose to have been rendered safe by a gun expert and was then handed to an ACTOR
what part of this do you not understand - the actor was never going to fire it with live rounds, he is not trained to handle live weapons - that is why they are called ACTORS
get over yourself and your self righteousness
I dont think there ever has been a case where the person was not guilty claiming the gun fired itself
different instance
that was a prop gun
@@roverwaters3875 that wasn't a prop gun.
@@roverwaters3875 Prop guns don't take live ammunition
He's a Democrat. He'll walk. The whole thing is a Clinton Operation. The message: We own the court. We can do whatever we want.
@@roverwaters3875
I’m pretty sure it was a real gun used as a “prop” gun
I don't know about the specific weapon that was used on the set of the film, but certain early examples of single action revolvers lacked the safety mechanism that prevented someone from accidentally "fanning" the hammer and igniting the cap. That's why people in the 19th century would often only load 5 of the six chambers, so that the chamber aligned with the barrel would always be empty. Of course, it would be bizarre to use such a weapon on the set of a film.
to "accidently Fan" the Revolver you need to hold the trigger, the Revolvers has so heavy spring on Hammer that you won't release the hammer UNLESS you pull the Trigger :)
@@John_Raynor Again, that's true of modern revolvers, but early revolvers were not constructed the same way modern revolvers are.
@@GregoriusTheBrown FBI lab proved using the very same gun the trigger had to be pulled for it to fire.
@@triamaria Yeah, this video and my comment predate that information becoming public. At the time, we did not know what kind of revolver was used on the set.
Also have to say, big fan of John, awesome channel :)
Thank you, John! As a gunsmith, sport shooter, and firearms safety instructor, your video is as informative as it is (unfortunately) necessary.
Thank you for being a responsible firearm owner, knowing what you are doing while handling it and telling the TRUTH yet again. Your channel is awesome!
Hello John. Your presentation here is 100% correct. Thanks ...!!
“. . .this is a pain in the butt. . .” - exactly why every film needs a weapons master (armorer, weapons specialist, weapons handler, weapons wrangler, or weapons coordinator) with a rigorous chain of custody for the weapons. Excellent demonstration on checking a gun. Thank you.
John, I grew during the 80’s watching Dukes of Hazard , and I am so proud of the person your are. Very profesional and your videos are great ! We are enjoying a time where a communication like this can happen! Thanks for your contribution and As a 48 year old man that grew watching the series I admire you very much !
Same here! Daisy Duke ( Catherine Bach ) was my first crush... My second, unfortunately, was Samantha Micelli ( Alyssa Milano ) from "Who's the Boss"...
But, John Schneider is completely wonderful in allowing himself to think things through with logic and purpose...
@@billstephens396 John played the Navy Officer in a version of the Sound of Music. Great performance.
@@ghostcityshelton9378 We know he can sing... He can also act... He knows his Constitusional rights, so he is highly intelligent... What can't the guy do? LOL
I remember him from Smallville. Such a good actor!
Beautiful piece. A buddy of mine is a collector and has every colt revolver made from 1865-1900. His gun collection is worth more than the 2 houses he owns.
Addendum:
My apologies to the people who couldn’t infer that I obviously didn’t mean every, single revolver manufactured by Colt in the late 19th century, but rather “one of each model”.
@DanOfTheWild 🤣
Dang. I'd love to see that.
A well crafted fire arm especially a historic piece is far more beautiful to me than a DaVinci paint
@DanOfTheWild You asked the wrong question.... It should have been where is this collection? lol
How did home ownership get weaved into the conversation?
Dude knows guns. I have no idea what happened on set since I wasn't there and a witness. What I do know, having used guns since I was under the age of 10 and now in my 50s, is that when you verify a gun is unloaded...it's still loaded.
I was taught that the stove is always hot and the gun is always loaded. Don't ever point a stove at someone unless you intend to cook.
@@Earthneedsado-over177 Yup, even toy guns my brothers weren't allowed to point at anyone, or the animals
Look,.... this is Bo Duke. He can jump a Dodge Charger full of moonshine! I believe him.
John has always seemed so much more “real” to me than the vast, vast majority of Hollywood.
Thanks John!👍🏻👍🏻
👍And I love that he’s giving ‘the shooting actor’ a run for his money!🤣
Thanks John for the demo. I didn’t know there were those safety catches on the hammer. I was under the impression the hammer could be fanned and could spring back and fire the round without pulling the trigger. I’m a little smarter today.
Single action colts have 4 “catches” it can be remembered because the first catch = C second catch = O third catch = L and fourth catch = T so all together it has four catches which equal COLT.
Typical on all 1873 Colts and clones. Uberti , Pietta, and many, many others. 1st click “safety” notch, second is half cock or loading position, third is bolt release, and fourth is full cock. Properly timed they are 4 distinct clicks. Many copies have early , late, or mushy clicks .
A re-enactment guy I'm friends with said that his late model Pietta has the safety transfer bar whereas my early model Uberti does not.
Awesome demo!
very accurate presentation of the function of this weapon.
Awesome john great job explaining how a single action revolver works and verifying that there is no way it would fire by hitting the hammer thank you john keep spreading common sense
Let’s just take a moment, and appreciate how gorgeous that beautiful COLT is!!! An absolute classic, great video, John! A lesson that everyone should know, for sure.
Merry Christmas! 🎄🎁
It is a beauty! 😍
It is a replica.
He is misleading. It is a .357. Not made until 1930ish.
You are being fooled by a fool.
The sound of the mechanisms is sweet music
Good informative video. No BS. I appreciate that 🙂
Some people probably are saying, why check the barrel if you've noted the cylinder is empty? It's simple. If "anything" is in the barrel and a blank is fired, that item becomes a projectile.
I'm glad that you're continuing to explain everything to everyone because there's so much confusion around this accident
Nothing accidental about it.
Trigger Jams hammer released gun fires, Malfunction known as Phantom Notch!
"Accident "
There is absolutely no confusion about the accident … the trigger had to be pulled for the gun to fire
@@carrollsanders9376 There was nothing accidental about what happened nor a phantom notch! He’s guilty of negligent homicide and isn’t man enough to own up to murdering her! Good job schilling for a murderer!
There's a hole in his story John. Those that have knowledge know logistically is not plausible for a revolver to go off unless you pull the trigger. Thank you for sharing this video with us. God Bless you.
There's a hole in his cinematographer too
Has anyone inquired if that poor lady was pregnant?
See where I'm going with this?
God bless you gurl. May you bear many fruits. God knows: we need more like you!!!
And bless you again:
God bless you gurl and all the fruit you bear.
SCOTUS will keep you fruitful and out of the workforce; where men belong!
And may God bless you with a man that will never ask to divorce or you become wayward to ask him.
May God bless.
Yes it could have gone off if it had a defective trigger mechanism, one that's defective could even bypass the half cock safety feature of an exposed hammer weapon like a single action revolver, a lever action rifle or even a Model 97 Winchester pump shotgun.
And the narrative that he should have checked to see if it was loaded makes no sense, inert dummy ammo is used in movies all the time for the sake of realism, the very same gun experts who are claiming he was irresponsible for not checking to see if it was loaded are the same exact people who will rag all over a movie where someone pulls a revolver out and points it at the camera and it's obviously unloaded, that's exactly why they have dummy ammo on movie sets, because of all the gun experts that'll rag on the movie makers over that detail, everyone keeps saying he should have checked to see if it was loaded but how could he have been able to tell it was live ammo?
The subject with this tragedy isn't basic firearms safety, this is a movie set not the shooting range or someone's home, that's exactly why there's armorers on the sets, to make 100% sure that when an actor is handed a firearm and they're told it's a "cold gun" that it's not something that'll shoot someone.
I can't stand Alec Baldwin, he's your typical anti gun leftist Hollywood flake, and he's responsible for her death but not because he was handling that firearm, it's because as the producer it's his responsibility to make sure the production has hired a competent armorer that's going to be 100% certain that a firearm on a set isn't capable of killing someone.
But basic firearms safety doesn't apply on a movie set like it does at a shooting range or at someone's house where you can bet there's live ammo and a very slim chance there's inert dummy ammunition around to get mixed up.
And here's a news flash for everyone, drawing a firearm and pointing it at a camera that has a director and a cinematographer standing right there is a common practice when shooting a movie, John Wayne did it, Clint Eastwood has done it, Keanu Reeves has done it and so on and so forth, all your favorite stars have, that's exactly why an armorer is on the set, to make sure a firearm isn't capable of shooting the director or the cameraman.
Alec Baldwin is going after a defective product angle because even though it's not his fault for being the one that was handling the firearm it's his fault as the producer for not having a competent armorer running the firearms end of things on that set, a defective product is his only out.
@@dukecraig2402 After Brandon Lee's death basic gun safety, as John demonstrated, was the procedure to be followed. John even said it in a previous video. Alec could have easily looked in the open end of the chamber to see if a round was present, and if there was a bullet attached to it. Many things will come out of this trial to hopefully prevent another tragedy like this. I believe there will be a lot of blame to go around. Very sad for everyone involved.
Love these videos John
such a fine professional, really smooth too
Yep, guns will not shoot by itself. It takes a person to make it happen...🤠👍🇺🇸
My double action revolver hangs on the wall loaded and in all these years has yet to fire itself. Same with my semi autos, my rifles, and my shotguns. Not once in 40+ years have they jumped down or out and fired a single shot by them self.
Baldwin has magical powers . . . so keep him OUT of your house!
I had an old 16 gauge pump with a hammer and if you ram bajamb it on that hammer would follow and that baby would go off.
@@karenkatmom3635 he come on my property he would find out first hand what hot lead feels like
To be fair, you don't know what they're doing while you sleep. They might be sneaking out and going to Baldwin movie sets.
I had a friend let us stay with him for a while and he would tell us stories of him and his army buddies loading every ordinance they could get their hands on and throw them over a high wall to see if they could get them to fire. Not a one went off by itself.
"I understand that this is a pain in the butt."
But the maximum people are alive.
John is still just as cool now as he was back in the 80s.