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Sorry for the late upload everyone!
Spent 3 hours battling with UA-cam to get the video through processing.
Still don’t know what the issue was for certain, however, I’ve got some ideas to keep this from happening in the future.
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worth the wait
Thanks Garrett!
100% worth the wait, thanks Chris!
We all know the hard work you're doing. Especially with those end of video images. Keep those coming please.
We wait!
Pogi is such a showman. he said "it was just an attack for fun, as we do with friends". i love this guy, he 's like a kid enjoying cycling. so refreshing !
Super entertaining 😘❤️😘😍🥰🦋👊
Love him!
Wasting energy. A 3 week race and he wants to race the TdF as well. He could have sat in the wheels and rested. Love that he lights the race up but he has pink. He can sit back and let others have some glory
@@markrushton1516 you said it yourself. It's a 3 week race. There's still plenty of sprint and breakaway stages for him to rest. lol
Don't think he'll be doing that on the regular + it was Thomas that started rotating first. 😂
@ChrisHornerCycling modern day Hainault from 1986
Pog doesn't seem to have read the rulebook and is not a great believer in conventional wisdom, obviously. But then, "Are you not entertained?"
The "W" of Tim Merlier was in memory of Wouter Weylandt who died on stage 3 in the Giro d'Italia in 2011. #108 is no more attributed.
Thanks, I didn't know that.
Who’s refreshing the page every minute
100%. Even told my wife it’s odd Chris hasn’t posted. She said who’s Chris lol!
I almost fell asleep on the chesterfield waiting for this video 😂
Me
Wasn’t all my fault. UA-cam just wouldn’t upload the video. Enjoy. 😬🥲🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling it's was worth it, we are used to instant gratification
Girmay sighting! If he's on the podium with pure sprinters he must be in good form. I hope he can keep it up, win a stage and compete for the points jersey.
Great race recap again! Nice to see Thomas forgetting he's 37... and Pogi clearly remembering Thomas is ... 37. I was kind of hoping Pogi would just keep pushing for the line and see if Thomas can follow. He might have pulled off a win on a sprinter's stage. That would have been funny.
Please make some knucklehead t-shirts for each of the grand tours. Pink yellow and red, then my wardrobe will be complete 😊
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Actually a great idea i need three
Then we need a super knucklehead who will win the knucklehead competition and be in the shirt.
Knucklehead cc
Chris can present one to the most knucklehead rider after each tour - I’m pretty sure these will actually be quite sought after in the Pro peloton 😀
So, you're saying; you're G; your teammate gets you to safety at the 3km mark, but when you get there, the guy you need to beat blows by you, and you stay put?? Once your hand gets forced and you go after him, just not to lose more time, you find yourself in a situation where now you could get time on your competitors, and you do not try? Hindsight is 20/20, but for a period there, I thought they were going to pull it off, and I was like 😱amazing! And YES, G's chances are most likely dependent on a Tadej's mishap! So he needs to be there! Or anyone else for that matter! If it would have ended today, he would have beaten Martinez by a second, when yesterday that wasn't the case. If he had come in 2nd on the stage, he would have had taken more time on Martinez. That wasn't his plan; that's what Tadej dealt! All of the above, butterfly effect!
this
I agree completely. Unfortunately Chris feels the need to wheel out his little catchphrase "knucklehead" rather too often for my liking.
A compromise would be that Thomas should not have taken any pulls and just stayed on Tadej's wheel. They both then get wrapped up sooner. This is not a day where GCs expect any time to really change and all Thomas should be doing is making sure Tadej does not get more time on him. I agree though in the moment why wouldn't he follow the attack?
@@goatbloat8233 this was my thought exactly. It’s a 50/50 decision whether or not to follow and from then on hold the wheel and nothing more. But it was fun to watch 😎
@@goatbloat8233Totally agree. The knucklehead move wasn't bridging up to Pog it was giving him a turn. You could tell her was on his limit even bridging across so just sit on his wheel. To be fair to G though he probably took the turn to try and make sure Pog didn't go to the front and start putting the hammer down and making it even tougher, hence why Pog decided 100m was enough and came past to be on the front, so maybe he's not to blame that much.
I'm conflicted...
Pogi was also super entertaining in the 2022 TdF. The man was winning stages left and right, picking up time bonuses, showing off his athletic genius all over the place, chasing down attacks... Right until he got smoked on the Granon and lost the race in week 3 while he was arguably the strongest man in the race.
The man was back to his brilliant best in 2023 TdF. Multiple stage wins, seemingly at will. Extravagant displays where he won time bonuses, while riding at the front with loads of panache and style. Aaaaaand then in week 3 on the road to Courchevel, he got his ass whooped on the Col de la Loze and (in that ridiculous TT). Again, 3 stage wins, Podium finish, Final jersey, strongest man, lost the race.
I get that the weather is more to his liking and that his biggest rival is a 30 something year old veteran racer, with no Primoz, Jonas or Remco to race against...BUT, Pogi is riding close to the sun himself...He might get burned- If not in Livigno, then in France this summer...
His team is weak. Stages 1 and 2 ended with him in splendid isolation and he is depending on a 30 something year old veteran racer as his last man, the team sprinter (and HIS leadout man) is not even in the picture on today's obvious sprint stage and when he had that minor crash yesterday he had to sweat to get back on because his pacers were not top shelf quality
He is in the jersey. This means that every race day, he gets 1+ hour LESS recovery than any of his rivals (podium, doping, interviews). Pogi's powers of recovery are extraordinary, but that's 7+ less hours of recovery a week and maybe up to 21+ less hours of recovery for the entire Giro- That adds up and his body WILL pay this price at some point.
I love his enthusiasm and respect the hell out of his ability, but if he truly wants to do the Double, I'm not sure that this will work. I get the sprint for the intermediate time bonuses and the cheeky dig at the end as well was brilliant! But this man wants to race 6000+km and climb what? 100,000metres on his bicycle, at the front, for the win, in 12 weeks? I mean, even The Incomparable Tadej Pogacar has got to preserve some energy somewhere, and he is not doing that... His legs are great and the man is clearly flying, but that attack on stage 2 only netted him 27 seconds when its clear that he wanted much more...
I still say that this man can podium on any stage that he wants, and can win most of those. He loves the cold weather, his rivals here are not peak Nibali, Contador or Basso and the TT km's plays in his favor, as do the long climbs in the absence of a pure, pure super climber and GC threat like Jonas ....
But we all want to be entertained in July as well and I fear that unless he learns to ride at the slowest reasonable speed that is guaranteed to win the jersey in Rome, he risks losing it all- If not now, then in July....
But I can't lie, the man is a brilliant racer and we are very lucky to see this level of performance and pure enjoyment on the bike...
Since the last 2 stages weren't attrition stages I dont think it matters too much + he gets no crash risks in the final metres. He is recovered from a 5 min interval in about 10 minutes. I think where he really needs to show his eco mode is on the long attrition stages.
@@melf5057 Sure... But all those unnecessary efforts add up in a 3 week bike race, especially when you have the jersey...
@@doctornrsfnly You're right
Nice observation, and I think you’re right. He’s gonna blow it.
@@doctornrsfnlyexcept at giro there's no team that can even remotely offer the kind of competition JV did. It's hard to think of a scenario where any rival can put real pressure on him
Damn, Chris! I watched stage 3 this morning, and your recap is wayyy more entertaining and exciting than seeing it live. Keep up the good work.
Seeing G.Thomas and pogacar pulling together reminded me the one crazy tour de france stage ( was it 2022?) when Wout van Aert staged a 100 km solo in the yellow jersey :) Crazy good Entertainment.
2022 TdF stage 6. It still tops, and I mean the very very Top on my list of Knuckleheads attacking moves. Unbelievable and still grow with every year. Three rider break Quin, Fuglsang, and Wout. Fuglsang quickly realized it was a worthless effort and drop backed early but wished Wout luck. Quin kept going 100% all in and then blew up on the first rise in the road. Wout still kept going and lost the yellow jersey along with opening the door for Pogi to win the stage and take bonus seconds. 1st on the list possibly for ever. 😱😂👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling Notice how no one complains about riders racing like robots under the control of their DS when they do things like this? I don't expect a DS to be able to manage the final kilometers of a sprint stage like yesterday, but if you are in a extended dopey break that makes no sense, I feel like a good DS should get on the radio and do some coaching/play-calling.
My favorite band is Tudors Down.
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I'm 68 but I caught it 🙃
Hey Chris, the production value on these videos are great. Really appreciate your hard work.
Pogadcar is an entertainer, this giro will be much fun than last year for sure
"The 37 year old knucklehead Geraint Thomas" 🤣😂
You aint lyin.......racing for second place
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What's wrong with that at age 37.
@ChrisHornerCycling distance everyone else though, leaves the race between pogi and Thomas, he could easily wait for a bad day for pogi, and take advantage.
@@jcoul1sc that bad day needs to be fascilitated by Thomas. If he wants any chance of winning, he needs to risk everything to force that bad day. It may create a significantly worse day that loses him 10min instead, or he can play it safe for second or third.
Robbie McEwen has been an important part of the Australian commentary team on SBS for a few years now, mostly at the TdF. Obviously he's never been a GC guy, but I would never doubt his point of view when it comes to sprinting.
Yep. It very hard to find a mistake from Robbie. Only problem I had today from Robbie was him letting Adam say that these guys should rotate and work together. 😱🦋👊
Wish we could listen to Robbie here in Australia!
@@hardtailheaven4060 we aren't giving him back!!!
poggie is the most exciting rider to watch period. and always with a smile. he is the best!
Thomas said it was firstly about staying out of trouble on greasy road with tight bend. But the final suggestion that it makes sense for Thomas to make the race a 1st for Pog, a 2nd for him, and the rest looking for 3rd as early as possible and wait to see if Pog has a problem, eg crash or illness. At this stage in his career, Thomas getting 1st is a bonus but keeping his high finish record is nice as it is 'best of the rest' in an era of four superstar GT riders in Pog, Vin, Ev, Rog. A certain CH did something similar in Vuelta a few years ago and ended up winning
Never leave your wingmen!!
The title of today's stage is SPRINTERS GONE WILD.
U KNOW it's gonna be a great show when there's a 'CATASTROPHIC Knucklehead Move' going down!!!🤣
I like the show of Pog and G mixing it up, it makes it more interesting. I was shouting at G nooo, don’t pull, let Pog burn his matches. It’s a 3 week race. I know loosing a few seconds here and there isn’t good but Pog is capable of getting minutes if unchecked. G’s team needs to mark Pog all the time. It’s great fun but time will tell.
I guess Pog always makes for an exciting stage because you just never know exactly what to expect. GT definitely suffered more than Tadej as a result. At this point, Pog needs to let his team do most of the work and conserve for the steeps.
One thing about Gerraint Thomas, he's not stupid. And at 37, he's been around to know his strengths and limitations. So whatever he was doing with Tadej I'm sure had a plan.
You can say that, yet he the day prior he went along and defended the plan that they rode for the pink jersey of Narvaez and took their responsibility. Which wasn't a smart move at all.
@@Legionarivss There's a difference between being a team player and being stupid. We can't say Gerraint devised that plan, surely it came from the DS.
#1 Rule is…..don’t be a knucklehead??
Don't cooperate with Pogacar.
Exactly 😂👊🦋
Great show Chris, love it
Wonderful analysis Chris! Keep it coming!
Sitting on the chesterfield waiting for all the knucklehead moves
Great stage. Love your show.
Good job Chris. Great explanation for us new comers
I've been waiting for this all day so we could all say what a knucklehead Pog is.
Fantastic stage. Interesting dynamic. Great coverrage.
Awesome, Chris! Thank you!
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Such an exciting race! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Chris and others, Pog went not because he wanted to pull Thomas, but because he thought the third rider can work with him and Pog either can beat him or hand him the stage.
When the third guy wilted, there was a hésitation and Pog said..Geraint you want to gain bonus and another 10 sec on your rivales, then work with me. And Thomas sort of did..for 20% of the 2km that they rode. It was Ok and gave them both a shot, except had they worked equally they could have gotten it
They had a shot for sure, but G looked a little too old for those monster pulls. I like it that he tried and I doubt it was too bad in terms of exhaustion going hard for the last 3 km of a flat stage.
G had to cover that move, his very short pull had little effect on anything but maybe had given them a chance to win or put time on others. Pogcar attack is what I didn't understand, but at least it's entertaining.
My god I had to do my morning stretch to the sound of the silence.
Hope you got the stretching in. UA-cam wouldn’t upload. 🥲🦋👍
I loved every minute of G and Tadej antics. I was hoping for a TdF 2016 stage 11 scenario.
Great summary
Thanks 👊🦋
Wow, for a GC guy, you can really breakdown a bunch sprint. Thanks Chris.
Thank you
Soo what's the likelihood the top 3 finishers of Stage 3 will also podium Stage 4? It certainly seems like we'll see another stacked drag race like today's Stage 3. Will Olav Koolj be ready for the gunshow shootout on Stage 4??
Perfect stage- allowed me to have a nap when it was boring. Thankfully was up when things kicked off, best of both worlds.😂
True that 💤🦋👊💥
Maybe Jonathan Milan forgot that his teammate Juan Pedro Lopez had won this year's Tour of the Alps.
So Good 👍
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The best breakdowns PERIOD! 🦋
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Arensman's dad was attacking his coach who Arensman insisted on bringing with him from DSM!
Phew. Thought for a moment you went up the road without us.
UA-cam let us down with upload problems. Then Garrett found a way 🥲🦋😂
The 37yo Knucklehead 😂 couple more years and he'll figure it out right?
I wasn't going to watch this stage. But damm, I'm glad i did!
That was one of the best boring stages I've ever watched.
It was Sprinters gone wild.
And Pog attacking just for fun was just that just for fun. And for G-MAN, going with him was just as nuts. Well, im up at 0100, getting ready to watch stage 4. Great analysis, as always, Chris.
Thanks a lot for youe words ...thats the problem with peloton ...no rules at all 😅😅
Pog said he wasn`t full gas in the final! Crazy...absolutely crazy !
This Giro keeps throwing sutprises and drama. Fantastico
Tadej won't take a day off. Every race this season, including sprint favorable routes like this, he's been up front and twitchy. I kind of wish he'd of done the classics this year. He's the best he's ever been and that's amazing. Sprint stage? Tadej: "hold my beer......"😂
Podacar World Biggest Knuckelhead!
Only age make him the best rider.
Burning his Light in both ends.
Nice to see Honore, nice try!
Can't remember 🇩🇰 Denmark had
Another good Finish Sprinter than
Mads P. Tobias Lund promising👍
Should be Milan Lidl-Trek Today.
Merlier bullseye yesterday👍😜🔝
I had to look Tobi up. He was good today. 👊🦋💪
@@ChrisHornerCycling If You're will
Check up on Danes Albert Philipsen
Former Junior World Champion is
Incredible good Biggest talent last
30 -40 years Ole Ritter Style he will
Be next rising star Lund won 3 stages
Recently tour of Turkey👍
Bounasera!
Good night 💤😘 🦋👊
My man Chris Horner we have been waiting all day. Thanks Brother
UA-cam wouldn’t upload it. Garrett finally got it thru. 🥲🦋👊
Biniam. Well done . . . almost?
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I see Pogacar do this, and my immediate thought is why doesn’t UAE have a better team to stay around their race leader until he tries the break away. Even more to the point, if one UAE domestique could stay with him at the beginning of the break away it may have worked. Instead he’s dangling out there on his own in the wind. He needs a better team that is focused on his success.
Johnny Milan! My favorite giant 👍
Lots of rules broken but it was fun. I think Geraint is riding a bit more freely as he's on his last knockings. I think Pog should be sitting in until the third week (except TTs) as he's got 6 weeks of being a top dog. Maybe Geraint and Pog were riding safely, out of a raging bunch but that's about the only plus. It could've been a real dull stage to watch though so I'm happy about that. :)
As always good perspective Chris. I don't understand why Pogi don't play it safe. He still have the Tour
Exactly 🤷🏼♂️😱🦋👍
Thanks, Chris, and tho' I am cheering for him to win this double, I thought this was a little greedy and messy for him to toy with the sprinters on one of their big days. Others say it was exciting and maybe so, but why not save some matches and play it cool and regal instead. Same with G. Thomas, why not toy with Tadej by getting on his wheel, if he must, and saying tow me like we tow you for a little levity. And whatever, all fascinating and sometimes amusing, you know, knuckleheads. 😀
We love them all equally. 😂👊🦋
@@ChrisHornerCyclingthey entertaining me though they’ll knuckleheads G and P
Why this broadcast is so late today ? Missed you. 😇😂
UA-cam issues with the upload. Hopefully you enjoy the video. 🥲🦋👊
Knuckleheads make entertainment racing though! 🦋👊💥
The best. 😂👊🦋💃🕺🪩
Chris unfortunately giro is not the same without Campeaaaarts
Your videos much better when you say ,, Ma maaaan .... Vikkkktoooor Caaampeeeeenharrrtssss hahaha
Thanks for the entertainment and great insights 😊
Thanks Chris , always looking forward to your videos .
You and the Lance Armstrong crew are the only ones that really know what you're talking about
Lance has too many ads. Johan B. also worth listening to.
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@@peterwilliams1119 exactly it's more like the Advertisement videos have some Lance in them ,😅
I would be careful going after G. Thomas for riding the Giro at age 37. I seem to remember a 41-year old who won a grand tour.
At 37, GT isn't building his resume anymore and he's not looking to negotiate a new contract. Maybe he's just looking for the euphoria that comes from pushing yourself to the limit one more time.
I realized long ago that the hardest I will ever push myself is when I've been able to catch a draft from someone who is clearly stronger than me and then I take pulls, however brief, to return the favor. Friendship and respect in its basic form.
Watching the stage, I thought Fiorelli was a knucklehead for trying to go off the front of the sprinter group after the intermediate sprint, and making them all follow away from the peloton. I also thought Tadej was a knucklehead for chasing Honore just before the finish line, but I wasn’t surprised he did it because he loves to win no matter how. But I thought Geraint was a bigger knucklehead for trying to stay on his wheel and not just let the sprinters, or Ineos, pull Tadej back.
😂😂😂 nbc frienemies!
Adam Blythe loves a break, bless him. Don't be too hard on him
Merlier in his post-race interview seems to support the No. 1 rule, saying basically that when in that break, there were only two from Soudal so they rode to slow the break and that in the end 'it was the right decision'. Baffled by Caleb Ewan riding as he did, the Australian coverage is similar to most, non too critical or aware of what you discuss here.
I just noticed: Chris has a natural clown face. Call me Jane 😀
You could say if everyone broke the no.1 rule , the no.1 rule no longer exists lol
Pogi is so refreshing for cycling fans.....thank god the stagnant boring racing of the 2000's to 2020 has gone......full gas pooowwweeerrr
🎉the first like, love your content
Bam, and podium 💥 thanks 👊🦋🙏🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
We want a chesterfield video
Chesterfield! Chesterfield!🎉🛋️🍿🎥
Take a shot every time Chris says pogi's name
Every one broke the rules, but Pog's Pink Panther tactics may cost him the pink jersey. He would be calm for some days he said. That was wise. Not even Pog. should run like the pink panther with a peloton for sprint behind him! He shouldn't have done so... That's no tactic!
I thought Cipolini retired over a decade ago? Piano, piano, bang! 80kph in the last km
😂😂😂 totally looked like that the first half of the racing. 👊🦋🇮🇹
I was checking the whole time where is Chris😃
UA-cam wouldn’t upload. Hope you enjoy it. 🥲🦋👊
I think G is enjoying mixing it with the youngster. Remember everyone wrote G off a couple of years ago and now his Ineos team mates are nowhere to be seen.
Knucklehead riders or knucklehead DSs? What was the plan?
GT mostly sat on Tade’s wheel and barely took a turn? You’re talking like it’s a massive mistake for the entire day. He couldn’t have let Tade go solo. I don’t see it. 🤷♂️
Ya I’m on the same boat I think G actually did a good one forcing poggi to keep pulling
He pulled Pogi. If Pogi wins Pogi gets more time. 🤔🦋👍
No doubt in my mind Geraint Thomas is racing for second, as Chris suggests. And I hate to be negative, but given all the high-speed crashes these days, it isn't a bad strategy to be ready to take over the lead.
Chesterfield occupied?
What was Pogi doing? Is he getting too greedy? If he blows in the third week of the Tour, will we look back at today and ask this again?
He’s racing 😊
@@alwaysglamorous8941 Racing like a knucklehead... Or did he use this stage finale to get an interval workout in because the stage itself was a snoozer, so he'd lose form by just riding easy to the line in the peleton?
Only just watched it so this comment probably won't be read by anyone, but i think Ineos are just here for stage wins and a podium position so G isn't thinking about beating Pog but putting time into his other rivals for the remaining 2 podium positions, sad as that sounds. Also, i don't think anyone is going home with COVID, but Pog could crash out at some stage, it has been known to happen, especially on wet roads.
Finally someone who can see cycling the way i see it. And lance has something, when he says the peloton is one big friendzone. Is that really why they use 8 months away from family to ride like idiots. Thanks again Chris Horner.
Biniam behaves as if they're paying him to lose!
Traffic issues. 🚙🚗🏎️🚕🚓🚘🚖🚡🚠🦋😱💪
Knucklehead count: 10
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Brad Friedel, is that you?
I lost some weight 😂🦋👊
Brad has no idea about cycling 🚴 but soccer 🥅
it was knuckleheadism, but entertaining after a total snoozefest.
The biggest knuckle head is poguie he blew up in the last grand tours at some point and now wants to win a sprint stage ... at least he will make the Race interesting
He wasn’t trying to win the sprint though
Right? As much as I loved watching it I have no idea why you'd want to waste a drop of energy but as you said this wouldnt be the first time he's done too much and paid for it down the road.
@@NeilHMohamed man yall want to be in control of that kid so bad. Let him ride how he wants
@@Murda2615 “I loved watching it”
No reason to do that attack when you got a sprinter on the team. Especially because it will just make the race even faster for Molano 🤷🏼♂️🦋🤔👍
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@@ChrisHornerCycling sorry Chris, this was a snafu on my part but,
Love and look forward to your daily commentary.
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3ATGL for another 1st. More than Pogi. 🏆 🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
I thought #1 rule was to try not be a knucklehead