What did you mean by "energy bars do not last as long" ? Both canned food and energy bars just replenish health and that is all they do and they do it the same? same for the liquids, water and soda do the same exact thing as each other. the only things that are different is the medicine vs pills, medicine does last longer than pills.
Well here's a long winded answer to explain it well. But It's a matter of how long the buff is vs the cooldown. Pills/Medicine are a bit different so I will roll them up on the end. TL:DR, soda and candybars have a shorter duration vs cooldown. Canned food and water have a duration that is equal to the consumable cooldown. All consumables (exception being medicine) have the same cooldown. So in the end, you get constant "buff" from consumables if you keep eating/drinking the "good" ones. You have the "good" and "bad" version of food and drink. All of them have the same cooldown to use another one. If I remember right, each of the food/drink items have a 240 second (4 minute) cooldown on use. The "better" food and drink are Canned Food and Water, those have a full 240 second duration. The "bad" food and drink are Energy Bars and Soda, which have a 60 second duration. So, regardless of which type of food/drink you use, it will be 240 seconds until you can use another one. If you use an Energy Bar or Soda, you have a 180 second (3 minute) gap where you have no buff and cannot use another item. Drinking a soda vs a water isn't as bad, since it's just better highlighting items on the ground and not critical for survival, but you should still prioritize water over sodas. Food on the other hand, it can make a big difference if you get into a fight and your food is on cooldown and you ate a candy bar so have no healing buff. Typically, I only use a candy bar if I need to heal and don't have a canned food. If I engage NPCs at a landmark, those can last longer than 60 seconds on non-GE weeks. So before you know it you can be without a food buff and still taking damage from NPCs. Your best bet if you need a heal and are good at avoiding NPCs, find the nearest safehouse as when you enter it will heal you to 100% even if you do not have a food consumption buff. Now to medicine, since it's a bit different. Medicine has an initial duration of 360 seconds (6 minutes) and Painkillers have 180 seconds (3 minutes) as a duration. The way the infection buffs work, it stalls the timer. But each time you take the next medicine, the duration decreases. I don't know the exact numbers but your medicine would be 360, then 355, then 350, etc. Eventually when you have long games you'll notice medicine and painkillers can last seconds. The difference with medicine/painkillers is that their cooldown is the same time as their duration. Once they are up, you can consume another. So really, you should be consuming more painkillers in the long run over medicine. Typically, my priority list for using medicine is whichever is closer to the 3 item limit, that way if I find another one I can always pick it up. If I don't have 3, I'll just typically pop pills because I know I will consume another one sooner and have more inventory space to fill up ones I find.
Just a lot of research and testing really. I don't even know how many Survival runs I have under my belt at this point. I really enjoy the game mode, I just wish they would put in true random loot spawns. As shown by this video, once you run things enough you start to memorize loot locations and NPC spawns, which turns into a "go here, collect this, rinse/repeat" type actions. I'm pretty envious of players who are just starting out with their first games of Survival. Such a great experience when you have no idea where things are, you don't recognize areas or loot spawns.
I totally agree! Great mode and i play it a real lot myself, It would be awesome if every game had new loot locations like you mentioned and maybe a options selections at the start because then every game would be fresh and have diversity. I would love to see difficulty tiers added.
You make it look so easy very smooth play I need a partner like that to play this game on I try to do it by myself but I'm always dying if you don't mind I would like to have a friend request and Playstation 4 division
There's not really a place to find times. This was a pretty quick run, helped by the global event. The video I put up was more a response to a Reddit post where I said you could do 6 caches in 30 minutes with a global event. Depending what you want to do, there are a few things you can time. Hope these details below help, but you can always just try to push personal best times. The longest time to be in game is I think 2:17? I haven't really found someone making that, it's just been an estimate based on getting all the spawns and walking from location to location popping pills and syringes. I've personally done a 2:15 and that's getting on the helicopter with seconds remining on my sepsis timer. 1. Fastest to extract. That's done by IamChappie in 9 minutes and at this point, I don't think it can be beat. His route and spawns had been adjusted so I don't think it's possible to beat it. But if you can get under 15 minutes for a speed run, you're doing good. Just over 10 minutes is really good. You skip getting your anti-virals since all you need is a div-tech to make your flare gun and you get this from a div tech crate 1. Fastest to extract with anti-virals. I don't know of a "world record" or time for this. But I'd put it in that sub 15 minutes is good to do if you get lucky on cache spawns. 2. Fastest 6 Survival caches. This means clearing out 6 landmarks (guaranteed caches) but you can get lucky to get one with a Hunter. So in theory, the fastest time is 5 landmarks and extraction with the Hunter for your 6th. Could do it under 30 minutes with the 5+1 but on a non-GE week, this is more a 45 minute run. 3. Fastest all DZ landmark clear. You can skip the LZ for the most part, ideally you want some green weapon parts for extended mags, but not required. Can do this in under an hour if you're quick, but most games like this casually push 90-120 minutes if you have access to medicine. 4. Fastest all LZ/DZ landmarks. I've done this before solo, but needed a global even to do this in under 2 hours. This one is a BIG one to do by yourself and can get thrown off if anyone clears a landmark before you. It's easier to do this in PvP with less people in the game, but you just need to hope to be in a game by yourself. The easier way to get this is to do it with a 2-4 player group, do it in PvP as there's barely, if anyone, playing group PvP queues. So real easy to get games by yourself as PvP is split between solo and group queues. PvE queue is going to mix solo and group queues.
What did you mean by "energy bars do not last as long" ?
Both canned food and energy bars just replenish health and that is all they do and they do it the same? same for the liquids, water and soda do the same exact thing as each other. the only things that are different is the medicine vs pills, medicine does last longer than pills.
Well here's a long winded answer to explain it well. But It's a matter of how long the buff is vs the cooldown. Pills/Medicine are a bit different so I will roll them up on the end. TL:DR, soda and candybars have a shorter duration vs cooldown. Canned food and water have a duration that is equal to the consumable cooldown. All consumables (exception being medicine) have the same cooldown. So in the end, you get constant "buff" from consumables if you keep eating/drinking the "good" ones.
You have the "good" and "bad" version of food and drink. All of them have the same cooldown to use another one. If I remember right, each of the food/drink items have a 240 second (4 minute) cooldown on use. The "better" food and drink are Canned Food and Water, those have a full 240 second duration. The "bad" food and drink are Energy Bars and Soda, which have a 60 second duration. So, regardless of which type of food/drink you use, it will be 240 seconds until you can use another one. If you use an Energy Bar or Soda, you have a 180 second (3 minute) gap where you have no buff and cannot use another item.
Drinking a soda vs a water isn't as bad, since it's just better highlighting items on the ground and not critical for survival, but you should still prioritize water over sodas. Food on the other hand, it can make a big difference if you get into a fight and your food is on cooldown and you ate a candy bar so have no healing buff. Typically, I only use a candy bar if I need to heal and don't have a canned food. If I engage NPCs at a landmark, those can last longer than 60 seconds on non-GE weeks. So before you know it you can be without a food buff and still taking damage from NPCs. Your best bet if you need a heal and are good at avoiding NPCs, find the nearest safehouse as when you enter it will heal you to 100% even if you do not have a food consumption buff.
Now to medicine, since it's a bit different. Medicine has an initial duration of 360 seconds (6 minutes) and Painkillers have 180 seconds (3 minutes) as a duration. The way the infection buffs work, it stalls the timer. But each time you take the next medicine, the duration decreases. I don't know the exact numbers but your medicine would be 360, then 355, then 350, etc. Eventually when you have long games you'll notice medicine and painkillers can last seconds. The difference with medicine/painkillers is that their cooldown is the same time as their duration. Once they are up, you can consume another. So really, you should be consuming more painkillers in the long run over medicine. Typically, my priority list for using medicine is whichever is closer to the 3 item limit, that way if I find another one I can always pick it up. If I don't have 3, I'll just typically pop pills because I know I will consume another one sooner and have more inventory space to fill up ones I find.
Damn did you co create this game? LOL! How the hell do you know all of that about those things? LOL
Just a lot of research and testing really. I don't even know how many Survival runs I have under my belt at this point. I really enjoy the game mode, I just wish they would put in true random loot spawns. As shown by this video, once you run things enough you start to memorize loot locations and NPC spawns, which turns into a "go here, collect this, rinse/repeat" type actions. I'm pretty envious of players who are just starting out with their first games of Survival. Such a great experience when you have no idea where things are, you don't recognize areas or loot spawns.
I totally agree! Great mode and i play it a real lot myself, It would be awesome if every game had new loot locations like you mentioned and maybe a options selections at the start because then every game would be fresh and have diversity. I would love to see difficulty tiers added.
You make it look so easy very smooth play I need a partner like that to play this game on I try to do it by myself but I'm always dying if you don't mind I would like to have a friend request and Playstation 4 division
This is old I know. But where can I find link for best times ?37 is average time these days
There's not really a place to find times. This was a pretty quick run, helped by the global event. The video I put up was more a response to a Reddit post where I said you could do 6 caches in 30 minutes with a global event. Depending what you want to do, there are a few things you can time. Hope these details below help, but you can always just try to push personal best times. The longest time to be in game is I think 2:17? I haven't really found someone making that, it's just been an estimate based on getting all the spawns and walking from location to location popping pills and syringes. I've personally done a 2:15 and that's getting on the helicopter with seconds remining on my sepsis timer.
1. Fastest to extract. That's done by IamChappie in 9 minutes and at this point, I don't think it can be beat. His route and spawns had been adjusted so I don't think it's possible to beat it. But if you can get under 15 minutes for a speed run, you're doing good. Just over 10 minutes is really good. You skip getting your anti-virals since all you need is a div-tech to make your flare gun and you get this from a div tech crate
1. Fastest to extract with anti-virals. I don't know of a "world record" or time for this. But I'd put it in that sub 15 minutes is good to do if you get lucky on cache spawns.
2. Fastest 6 Survival caches. This means clearing out 6 landmarks (guaranteed caches) but you can get lucky to get one with a Hunter. So in theory, the fastest time is 5 landmarks and extraction with the Hunter for your 6th. Could do it under 30 minutes with the 5+1 but on a non-GE week, this is more a 45 minute run.
3. Fastest all DZ landmark clear. You can skip the LZ for the most part, ideally you want some green weapon parts for extended mags, but not required. Can do this in under an hour if you're quick, but most games like this casually push 90-120 minutes if you have access to medicine.
4. Fastest all LZ/DZ landmarks. I've done this before solo, but needed a global even to do this in under 2 hours. This one is a BIG one to do by yourself and can get thrown off if anyone clears a landmark before you. It's easier to do this in PvP with less people in the game, but you just need to hope to be in a game by yourself. The easier way to get this is to do it with a 2-4 player group, do it in PvP as there's barely, if anyone, playing group PvP queues. So real easy to get games by yourself as PvP is split between solo and group queues. PvE queue is going to mix solo and group queues.