@@chips493 Well the death of ser Rodrik, the death of Luwin and the sack of winterfell was the peak for the brutal fact that the starks children don't have home, family or allies anymore.
Luwin was right at this point in time magic was reduced to a wisp of smoke, but then three dragons were born and magic came flooding back into the world. If he tried those spells in S7 they may have worked.
Beerbottles123 If they Honestly have that conspiracy, and he thinks Bran is magic, he was given the perfect opportunity to let him Die. Instead, he saved him. He was protecting him.
+monokhem They only kept these occult items around to prove to their apprentices that Sorcery is a waste of time, there is no such thing as magic. Infact a lot of the senior Maesters were alarmingly disturbed when someone actually lit the 'Glass Candle' with their mind. It signifies magic has returned and all their work of poisoning the last dragon and assassinating Aegon the Unlikely was for nothing.
@DarkAvatar I mean you do. They said that the first men randomly got some of the children of the forests magical abilities. It's pretty random, just less random for some families
"The Dragons have gone. The Giants are dead. And the Children of the Forest forgotten."- Maestr Luwin. **SPOILERS** They're Dragons are back. Few Giants live among the free folk. And the Children of the Forest are remembered by few.
+Tyler Beckett also isn't weird that within Bran's journey he comes across all of those things *SPOILERS* He himself is a Warg, so Wargs do exist Hodor is "theorized" to be decended from a Giant Bran meets a Child of the Forest in Season 4 the only thing that he hasn't been in contact with are Dragons of course there's the Blood Raven that told him he will "fly" ....unless the theory of Bran warging into a Dragon occurs, then the Maestr's words are the biggest foreshadowing ever.
Magic became a strong force in the world again once Bran returned from beyond the wall. He used his magic to influence many events that ultimately saw him become King. So much for Maester Luwin's words now lol.
Valyrian steel and dragonglass arrows would be a very bad idea. You'll only be able to use it once, on one White Walker. Swords can be used time and time again.
Imagine what a different world it would've been when young Maester Luwin and a bunch of others experimented, threw a piece of meat or some live animals into a fire, it turned blue, a Voice came out, the Maester asked its name, and the Voice answered.
well he wasn't entirely wrong, magic was gone from the most part of the world in that time, but it came back when the dragons and the white walkers returned.
Well, no, the dragons Were long gone, as far as he knew the giants Were all dead, and the Children of the Forest Were forgotten. So it was pretty much accurate at this point in the story.
The dragons *were* infact gone. Giants, not even the Night's Watch knew they existed. Children of the forest *forgotten* , by the end of the show Bran and Meera were the last to see them before their extinction.
In the books we know for sure that apart from Bran, Jon and Arya are wargs.. There are rumors that Robb was turning to a direwolf and kill the enemies in the battles(just stories), but we know that Greywind fight with him and he had a special link with his direwolf.. There are more thing that Greywind did to understand this special link to Robb.. So I think Robb is a warg too.. Maybe he didn't practise his "magical" power(we don't know because he wasn't a POV character) but maybe if he had the time he could... Sansa had also a special relationship with her direwolf, Lady, but unfortunately Lady died too early.. And now Rickon.. The fact that he saw the same dream with Bran(his father dead) and his realationship with his direwolf are the only proof we have about him being a warg.. Unfortunately Shaggydog is dead..
One more thing.. Bran isn't just a warg, he is a greenseer.. Like the Three-Eyed Raven.. One in a thousand humans is born a warg and one in a thousand wargs is born a greenseer. Bran is now the Last Greenseer
Oh okay, I just read that GRRM said all of Stark children have warg ability at some point. Its been a while when I finished the books, thanks for reply
Each and every Stark child is capable of warging. Robb's direwolf was very loyal to its master, seeing as how he was used in battle. Unfortunately Robb did not embrace his nature as a Warg seeing as how he locked the direwolf for the convenience of others. Bran is obviously a warg / greenseer. I don't recall Sansa having been exposed to any of the direwolves gifts both in the show and books. Arya has taken her first steps towards learning the ways of the Warg in the books. Jon is even worse that Robb, as he saw the real Wargs amongst the Wildings, but was not curious enough to try his skills on his own direwolf. Difficult to say what Rickon is capable as he is not the main character in the book and been missing for quite a bit in the show. It is known however that his direwolf is very wild, meaning it is either too difficult to control him or Rickon is just not powerful enough yet due to his young age.
What Luwin said was based on his knowledge (which was considerable) and his desire for Bran to accept what he was now and not live in what Luwin saw as a fantasy world. It was done out of love and for all the right reasons. Luwin couldn't have know it, but he just happened to be wrong.
Well the Giants and the children of the forest are alive. But why would Maester Lewin say that knowing that one in every thousand northerner is a warg?
Wargs have a special connection to the creatures they warg into. They cannot simply jump into random living things.So Bran would need to tame a dragon before warging into one.
I always had a spft spot for Bran. His story held a lot of the elements of Game of Thrones I considered to be the most mysterious as they dealt with a lot of the magic and ancient lore the world of Westeros would be built on. I'd like to read the books one day cause it seems to me his story was one big waste of time in the show. Totally uninteresting and boring.
Meghann Cruz It wouldn't be warging, if he did. Even though the show uses it as a catch-all phrase, warging is specific to wolves and dogs. It would be skin-changing. I don't know if anyone has ever skin-changed into a dragon. It's a daunting prospect. Magical creatures or not, dragons are said to be as intelligent as men. With the exception of Hodor, men will fight a skin-changer, even go as far as killing themselves to ward them off. I question whether a dragon would accept a skin-changer.
it is he went from being a cripple to someone who can now see the past present and future he survived being thrown out of his home did he have help yes but few could have survived what he survived even the night king himself wanted bran dead more then any other thats how important he was
Did it never occur to this old man that something which was lost could make a comeback? He couldn't make so much as a spark when he tried casting spells, but how long ago was that?
In ASOIAF, the ages of magic and non-magic are implied to be great swathes or time apart. It’s reasonable for Luwin to think that magic is not as strong now as it was fifty years ago, that’d be like thinking you were living through an Ice Age because a kid said he had a dream that it was true.
i think all the magic rituals and blood magic is the same as praying. you can pray for anything but its up to God to grant it. in this universe case seems to be Lord of Light
For such a supposedly rational man, what he’s saying makes no sense at all. If magic once existed (the last dragon died only a few generations ago), there’s absolutely no reason it couldn’t come back. How stupid.
The night Robb leaves, Rickon comes into Bran's room and pretty much says that none of them will return. Also there is a scene where Rickon is smashing walnuts?! with a rock at the table and Bran tells him to stop (it's a reference to him warging with shaggydog and becoming a little primitive).
Luwin wasn't wrong... magic stopped working when dragons went extinct and white Walkers went to sleep But it returned when dragon's started flying and white Walkers...well they started walking I guess...
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I seriously miss Maester Luwin. He was such a good soul.
Definitely, has to b the most liked Maester on GoT. Was a good caring man. Then u have Pycelle on the other hand a scheming pedophile.
His death was so gratuitous and useless. I can't believe GRR Martin wrote it like that.
@@chips493 Well the death of ser Rodrik, the death of Luwin and the sack of winterfell was the peak for the brutal fact that the starks children don't have home, family or allies anymore.
Until the amazons got to him
Good people die horribly in such a world 😢
Luwin was right at this point in time magic was reduced to a wisp of smoke, but then three dragons were born and magic came flooding back into the world. If he tried those spells in S7 they may have worked.
The WW were around before the dragons were born.
"Damn! NOW you tell me!"
@@cecejk The dragons probably existed back then too. But in the show White Walkers are a product of magic, not magic.
@@balabanasireti In the show.
maybe that's why Qyburn successfully turned The Mountain into that creature
Bran was so cute when he was little :(
those British genes have no mercy
tHeWasTeDYouTh now he has a strong receding hairline...
A good head of hair to a thin head of hair.
RIP
Sick burn
"Puberty is a ladder. Sometilmes it brings to chaos."
@@tHeWasTeDYouTh Das raycis
The grandfather vibes from Luwin is just overflowing here. He's such a good soul
Something about the way he spoke tells me that he was lying for Bran's own good.
That's what it feels like to me.
Considering the Citadel has policy to destroy all magic, I wouldn't be surprised if Luwin is on the conspiracy.
He was. Trying to protect him.
Beerbottles123 If they Honestly have that conspiracy, and he thinks Bran is magic, he was given the perfect opportunity to let him Die.
Instead, he saved him.
He was protecting him.
+monokhem
They only kept these occult items around to prove to their apprentices that Sorcery is a waste of time, there is no such thing as magic. Infact a lot of the senior Maesters were alarmingly disturbed when someone actually lit the 'Glass Candle' with their mind. It signifies magic has returned and all their work of poisoning the last dragon and assassinating Aegon the Unlikely was for nothing.
I enjoy how he awoke looking into Summer's eyes. Looking into the eyes of a wolf or even a fox, has a sense of mystery and yes a type of magic to it.
The interesting part is if at that time he was warging through Summer then it means he just saw himself sleeping through Summer's eyes and woke up
What an amazing actor this little guy...you can sense despair , belief and disbelief through his eyes...all at once
I think deep down Maeter Luwin know that Bran could be a warg but chose not to tell him.
He probably knew it, the Starks have a history of warging abilities
Oh for sure.
monokhem They do actually.
Starks have a long history of being wargs.
@DarkAvatar I mean you do. They said that the first men randomly got some of the children of the forests magical abilities. It's pretty random, just less random for some families
How weird would it be to live in a castle with wolves just running around
+Amusement73 you wouldn't if you read the books
It would be fascinating.
That's basically my living room (we have an Alaskan Malamute)
@Anteiku Yagami Fucking books that the show is based on. It is said in the intro. Are you mental?
and not just any wolves
wolves that shouldnt exist, specially south of the wall. much like giants, dragons, Children... ;-)
This scene should remind us that, no matter what we think we know, and no matter how wise we think we are, we can still be totally and utterly wrong.
Luwin is a highly intelligent and respected Maester of the Citadel. It is known.
Unlike Pycelle and Qyburn
FORREST GUMP i think it’s bloodraven
@@Da_Homie12 Qyburn just isn't respected but definitely highly intelligent. I liked him a lot.
it is known It is known
@@Da_Homie12 Pycelle is probably also respected, otherwise, how can he work in the capital. All he does is for surviving.
"The Dragons have gone. The Giants are dead. And the Children of the Forest forgotten."- Maestr Luwin.
**SPOILERS**
They're Dragons are back. Few Giants live among the free folk. And the Children of the Forest are remembered by few.
+Tyler Beckett also isn't weird that within Bran's journey he comes across all of those things
*SPOILERS*
He himself is a Warg, so Wargs do exist
Hodor is "theorized" to be decended from a Giant
Bran meets a Child of the Forest in Season 4
the only thing that he hasn't been in contact with are Dragons
of course there's the Blood Raven that told him he will "fly"
....unless the theory of Bran warging into a Dragon occurs, then the Maestr's words are the biggest foreshadowing ever.
+Luckykuku Hodor is theorized to be the son of Duncan the tall, who had a relationship with his grandmother old nan.
+Graphite (FZ-07) Ser Duncan The Tall would be Hodor's grandfather
John Castillo Yes that is what i meant.
then its possible that he avenged his own cousin Brienne's attempted rape and murder-via bear pit
The way Hodor greet Summer 🥰
The Dragons have gone. The Giants are dead. And the Children of the Forest forgotten."
Bran: OK Boomer
Maester Luwin always struck me as a kind grandfather figure to the Bran and Rickon.
The way summer is just staring at Bran when he wakes up..."U Gucci buddy?"
You know nothing Maester Luwin .
Or Does he?
Luwin was wrong but he was a sweet old guy. Not to mention the fact that 99% of us would say the same thing to a kid telling us about his dreams.
:37 in and you are at .25 speed, you can see a little glimpse of him coming back from his warging.
Nah I don't think that was on purpose
@@nc6379 the white Warging eyes!! Its was definitely on purpose
I give this scene four Hodors.
I give the finale minus two Hodors...
i get goose bumbs everytime i see this scene
Maester Luwins line around 2:30 is basically saying boy a grew up wishing to be super hero's so true Maester Luwin so true
So, I want an Old Nan prequel where we see how she came to know even more than Maester Luwin!
Magic became a strong force in the world again once Bran returned from beyond the wall. He used his magic to influence many events that ultimately saw him become King. So much for Maester Luwin's words now lol.
0:38 _"nice eyes , buddy"_ said the wolf.
Maester Luwin was a summer child
I love Bran!
Brand is so cute!!!
rip summer
..and hodor :c
And Rickon. Who was also prophesied to die in this clip.
and the dragon that was killed by the nights king
VISERON i think its name is
Did he say valerian steel? Find them. Find all of them. Turn them into sharp objects. Hang them on long sticks.Make Meera use them for arrows.
Valyrian steel and dragonglass arrows would be a very bad idea. You'll only be able to use it once, on one White Walker. Swords can be used time and time again.
If only he knew what Bran would turn out to be.
Man who would've thought, Bran the King
Aw I miss Summer.
Imagine what a different world it would've been when young Maester Luwin and a bunch of others experimented, threw a piece of meat or some live animals into a fire, it turned blue, a Voice came out, the Maester asked its name, and the Voice answered.
Bran's story had the potential to be great, but they ruined it.
He is king now
Bran's story turned out great.
Yep, ruined. And I mean it. Such a waste of a character.
I know right.Bran was always meant to be the king,but DD ruined the development
Whatd’ya mean? “Who has a greater story than Bran The Broken?” - Tyrion, but actually D&D
Bran was def warging into summer in this scene
0:47 Every night is the same I´m wargin
I miss the cheap looking seasons of GOT they were the best
I always felt like Hodor recognized that Bran was the wolf
Sam is going to be a wizard... and fulfill his title as "sam the slayer".
eli dennison more like "Sam the Stealer".
eli dennison and he became king!!!
Stay awhile, and listen!
Luwin had the Valyrian link?! Why didn't I know that
Bring out your Hodor! *clang*
Bring out your Hodor! *clang*
Bring out your Hodor! *clang*
Bring out your Hodor! *clang*
Bran the Warg!!!
so basically everything this maester said was wrong?
Some of it was probably 'wrong' on purpose.
well he wasn't entirely wrong, magic was gone from the most part of the world in that time, but it came back when the dragons and the white walkers returned.
Well, no, the dragons Were long gone, as far as he knew the giants Were all dead, and the Children of the Forest Were forgotten. So it was pretty much accurate at this point in the story.
The dragons *were* infact gone. Giants, not even the Night's Watch knew they existed. Children of the forest *forgotten* , by the end of the show Bran and Meera were the last to see them before their extinction.
@@jonathansenile4396 the current nights watch knew giants existed even before jon encountered them.
The most versatile substance on the planet, and they used it to make a chain link.
Hold the door
So Rickon had the same dream even he is 3, does it mean hes a warg too?
In the books we know for sure that apart from Bran, Jon and Arya are wargs.. There are rumors that Robb was turning to a direwolf and kill the enemies in the battles(just stories), but we know that Greywind fight with him and he had a special link with his direwolf.. There are more thing that Greywind did to understand this special link to Robb.. So I think Robb is a warg too.. Maybe he didn't practise his "magical" power(we don't know because he wasn't a POV character) but maybe if he had the time he could... Sansa had also a special relationship with her direwolf, Lady, but unfortunately Lady died too early.. And now Rickon.. The fact that he saw the same dream with Bran(his father dead) and his realationship with his direwolf are the only proof we have about him being a warg.. Unfortunately Shaggydog is dead..
One more thing.. Bran isn't just a warg, he is a greenseer.. Like the Three-Eyed Raven.. One in a thousand humans is born a warg and one in a thousand wargs is born a greenseer. Bran is now the Last Greenseer
Oh okay, I just read that GRRM said all of Stark children have warg ability at some point. Its been a while when I finished the books, thanks for reply
+yahuniye You are welcome- sorry for the really long comments
Each and every Stark child is capable of warging. Robb's direwolf was very loyal to its master, seeing as how he was used in battle. Unfortunately Robb did not embrace his nature as a Warg seeing as how he locked the direwolf for the convenience of others. Bran is obviously a warg / greenseer. I don't recall Sansa having been exposed to any of the direwolves gifts both in the show and books. Arya has taken her first steps towards learning the ways of the Warg in the books. Jon is even worse that Robb, as he saw the real Wargs amongst the Wildings, but was not curious enough to try his skills on his own direwolf. Difficult to say what Rickon is capable as he is not the main character in the book and been missing for quite a bit in the show. It is known however that his direwolf is very wild, meaning it is either too difficult to control him or Rickon is just not powerful enough yet due to his young age.
What Luwin said was based on his knowledge (which was considerable) and his desire for Bran to accept what he was now and not live in what Luwin saw as a fantasy world. It was done out of love and for all the right reasons. Luwin couldn't have know it, but he just happened to be wrong.
I can't wait for Samuel Tarly to try spells
Cullen Harris samuel...
little did he know, plot twist!
Well the Giants and the children of the forest are alive. But why would Maester Lewin say that knowing that one in every thousand northerner is a warg?
is maester luwins line about the valyrian steel link the same in the book? If yes, can anyone tell me the chapter it is in?
Yea it's true, I don't remember what chapter.
Maester Luwin is the Thufir Hawat of Game of Thrones.
when i hover over the progress bary I see a wavy line, what is that?
Just because the thousand and first boy failed at magic doesn’t mean the thousand and second boy will fail. Insanely unlikely but there is a chance.
so if bran can warg into a dragon will he be able to meet daenerys?
Wargs have a special connection to the creatures they warg into. They cannot simply jump into random living things.So Bran would need to tame a dragon before warging into one.
Izaslanik Sotone thats a myth.
Paper Please he is a greenseer
It would have been so cool, if he casted a lightning at Theon and burned his co... oh wait. Something else then :D
So did Luwin light a black candle?
Wunwun enters the chat
All hail Bran the Broken!
Not as badly broken as the script for the finale was, but still....
@@maskedmarvyl4774 True. That writing broke a whole series and the fans hearts.
The system tells us a lot of things in order to keep us from becoming players instead of slaves.
He is Brandon the Warg and soon he will be Brandon the Builder too (going in the past to do it)!
Fook off.
In the world of maesters there is no place for magic.
I always had a spft spot for Bran. His story held a lot of the elements of Game of Thrones I considered to be the most mysterious as they dealt with a lot of the magic and ancient lore the world of Westeros would be built on. I'd like to read the books one day cause it seems to me his story was one big waste of time in the show. Totally uninteresting and boring.
so if bran can warg into a dragon then will he be able to daenaerys
no shit sherlock
He will be able TO FRY everyone including the "ice-cream" KING =)
Dragons are creatures of magic, I don't think you can warg into one. I may be wrong though.
Meghann Dela Cruz Even if he can't warg into one he can drive it mad I even kill it by trying
Meghann Cruz It wouldn't be warging, if he did. Even though the show uses it as a catch-all phrase, warging is specific to wolves and dogs.
It would be skin-changing.
I don't know if anyone has ever skin-changed into a dragon.
It's a daunting prospect.
Magical creatures or not, dragons are said to be as intelligent as men. With the exception of Hodor, men will fight a skin-changer, even go as far as killing themselves to ward them off.
I question whether a dragon would accept a skin-changer.
Bran's story is so boring after he leaves Winterfell lol. In fact it was so bad they skipped a season. And yet Tyrion thinks his is the best.
it is he went from being a cripple to someone who can now see the past present and future he survived being thrown out of his home did he have help yes but few could have survived what he survived even the night king himself wanted bran dead more then any other thats how important he was
I thought they skipped a season because his story had caught up with the books?
Did it never occur to this old man that something which was lost could make a comeback? He couldn't make so much as a spark when he tried casting spells, but how long ago was that?
In ASOIAF, the ages of magic and non-magic are implied to be great swathes or time apart. It’s reasonable for Luwin to think that magic is not as strong now as it was fifty years ago, that’d be like thinking you were living through an Ice Age because a kid said he had a dream that it was true.
@@lewiskazinsky7334 To be fair, the last ice age happened significantly more than fifty years ago. Though I get your point.
what the hell is that chain. in the book it was damn necklace
+Darth Boss In the book it was more of a choker that Luwin pulled at all the time. Most maester's chains are far bigger than his.
How many eyes does Bloodraven have a thousand and one
i think all the magic rituals and blood magic is the same as praying. you can pray for anything but its up to God to grant it. in this universe case seems to be Lord of Light
The old Gods too. It's complicated.
@@GetYourPull18 the old gods seem to me low rank gods (small "g"). Or everyone pray to them same God but call Him different names.
For such a supposedly rational man, what he’s saying makes no sense at all. If magic once existed (the last dragon died only a few generations ago), there’s absolutely no reason it couldn’t come back. How stupid.
Only a moron like you would view magic that way. How stupid.
... Rickon had these future-sight dreams too? A shame we never got to see more of his character
The night Robb leaves, Rickon comes into Bran's room and pretty much says that none of them will return. Also there is a scene where Rickon is smashing walnuts?! with a rock at the table and Bran tells him to stop (it's a reference to him warging with shaggydog and becoming a little primitive).
I cringe so hard when he was lying about evertything
You know nothing maester luwin
wrong on all counts
Man, Winterfell sucks.
Luwin wasn't wrong... magic stopped working when dragons went extinct and white Walkers went to sleep
But it returned when dragon's started flying and white Walkers...well they started walking I guess...