Sig X Compact First Shots & Impressions
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2020
- The new compact version of the P320 has lots of features out of the box, and a great size for almost everything, but its it reliable?
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I've put about 2,000 rounds through my P320 X Compact since I bought the gun in June and have yet to have a malfunction. I've used 115, 124 and 147 FMJ and also 124 and 147 JHP. No issues with any of them.
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I spent the whole of last week in MN shooting every other day, didn't have a single stovepipe or malfunction at all with 115 grain, through my x Carry, my buddy didn't have a single malfunction in his x Compact with 124 grain. all FMJ.
did he say 95gr ? 9mm sig recommends 115gr minimum for proper cycle. in my Handbook for my P320
Also said he shot a ton of that stuff and had no issues in any other gun. Gr shouldn’t matter in terms of cycling as long as it’s not some weak load like a subsonic. Only had 1 issue so it’s not that big of a deal as long as it’s not his carry ammo.
Love my xc! Have had it about two weeks now with 250 rounds115 grainers with no fails..it loves to run fast! Good carry gun!
I made my P320 Subcompact into (almost) one of these. Don’t have the optic cut or X-Ray sights (it has the old night sights). Hooray for modularity! Bought the X-Compact grip and X trigger and I was off to the races. This is, without a doubt, the grip size that fits my hand best and feels terrific shooting. My son has slightly larger hands and it’s his favorite, too.
Since I got my X-Carry in ‘18 I’ve retrofitted all my P320’s to X grips and X triggers and the improvement in feel and shooting is amazing. I think improved geometry and slight reduction in circumference high on the grip have helped reduce that “rocking horse” recoil effect you mentioned in the Best $500 Gun video from the other day. I know you’re right, I started calling it “rocking horse” when I got a P229 in ‘08, much more pronounced there than the original P320 and even less with the X grip so I think Sig has been working to mitigate the problem. And, with 4 P320s in different sizes (full, compact, X-Carry and X-Compact) I still have yet to have a malfunction I can blame strictly on the guns; and only a couple with my potentially problematic handloads. 🤷🏻♂️
Anyway, fun video on a great gun!
I bought this gun last year and I love it. So glad you are getting time with this gun
had the same problem with mine shoting a little low so ordered a shorter front sight from night fizion and it sloved the issue.Their sight is also easier to see.You definitely do the best reviews out there and do a lot of them.Keep up the good work
I got one about a year ago, cant remember any problems, one of my favorite guns, accurate, never even knew it had thingie in the way. I think the sights are very good. Course I haven't noticed thingie in the way, hope I don't start seeing it all of a sudden. I liked it better before I finally bought another PPQ after several years just about a month ago, now the PPQ is very good also. Just bought a P-07 two months ago because of your love for it and a few other reviewers as well. It's different, I shoot real accurate, sometimes, but usually have to put 15 expensive rounds through it before I start getting accurate. Not so with the PPQ and Sig. Keep up the great reviews. Maybe you can file off that thingie and like the gun as much as the rest of us do.
I've had zero issues with my Romeo1 since 2017. I have the Romeo1 Pro on another Sig since May and so far no issues eith it either.
Finally just purchased a Canik TP9SF with venom red dot combo. Went ahead and purchased an Olight BALDR Mini for it. Really enjoy your reviews.
Great review again Outlaw! Didnt really think about the tactile round check being in the sight line. Stipe!!!
Thank you for your review. I just bought one with the Romeo 1 attached with a rear site as well and I'm really liking this gun. This one has been very reliable.
Is that the one with the suppressor height sights? I’ve been wanting that model. How does it shoot
This one? www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/246407/320xc9bxr3rxp/sig-sauer-p320-rxp-x-compact-9mm-pistol-with-romeo1-pro-optic
This exact pistol was what I had decided on for my first purchase, about 5 months ago. Then Covid happened. I could find one seller, with a red dot that I didn't want, pre-installed for $900. That was it. Glad to see some inventory trickling back out on to the market.
Great review....i have all of the sig P 320's and I can tell you this using the extended mags for the full size P 320, the X Compact dont like them every time I use those mags in the X Compact it dose the same thing to me but overall its a very good shooter once you get use to it. Thanks for the review and look forward to see your 1000 round review.👍👍🇺🇸
Nice review brother. This was the last 9mm I bought. The RX Compact, came with the sig Romeo 1 pro. Love it. I still kinda prefer my G19, but variety is the spice of life!
I just can’t shoot a sig! Proceeds to hit everything.
Haha no shit. His “I can’t shoot Sig 320’s...” would be my “wow, I’m hitting everything today!”
By volume..
Really enjoy the Channel! I know you hate them, but I bought this pistol today and mine had 3 magazines, and a holster. Now granted the, the holster is crap, but it’s there.
Absolutely love my X-Compact.
I have a the p320 RXP X Compact with Romeo 1 Pro and learned very quickly not to have a +1 or else it would jam (but it’s most likely my error since I didn’t read the manual right away). I like it better than the Springfield XD9-Mod.2 that I used to have and can shoot a little more accurately with the red dot, plus it teaches me to align the sights a little faster by finding the dot. Great review, btw. You got a new subscriber in me.
I have a p 320 sub compact. Bought the x5 compact grip mod, and now I have the same gun as the x5 compact without the loaded chamber indicator and the removable plate. And it has standard sig night sites. Love it. My favorite cary gun now. And I can always make it shorter in the grip by putting the sub compact grip module back on. But it only holds 12 in the mag in that configuration. But the x5 compact grip mod feels great in the hand. And I like the 15+1.
I love the Sig 320x5 . Great sights , ergos and flat face trigger . Never once had a failure to feed . Shoots spot on , no low left . I have not shot a Xcompact but , i would expect similar performance .
I just bought the X Carry today. Put right around 400 rounds through it without any failures. As far as the sightes mine seems to be right on as long as I do my part. Deffinetly liking the beaver tail and flat trigger. Great review outlaw, keep up the good work !!!
Where the hell did you find 400 rounds thesedays
@@GrippinTheGauge206 I got about 3,000 rounds stock piled. Had to take it out and make sure it was gunna run with no issues. I won't shoot anymore till ammo starts to come back around.
I think that's a fair assessment, I run the XCarry with the older full barrel and now the notched barrel and I'd take those over the raised LCI used on the XCompact. I also noticed that Sig changed the recoil spring design as well, but I'll need to see how the newer spring handles over the long haul. Great content as always!
Like the humor I have 3 P320's including xcompact and love them all never any issues with failures. But ergos make a difference to everyone. That said I run mostly 124 gr nato and 147 gr. HP no issues at all.
When I picked that gun up I wanted to like it. I liked the sights, liked the grip and the trigger was excellent for a polymer gun. My groups mimicked yours. No matter what I tried, I could never tighten those groups up. Mine was very reliable but I just couldn’t get used to the high bore axis which slowed me down and my lack of ability to shoot it accurately. Wound up selling it. Good review.
I’m a big Sig Sauer and Honest Outlaw fan, and own a p365, p220, p226, p229 and Had a p320 compact (my very first gun). I liked the 320 and thought it shot fine, but I sold it after buying my first Legion (220 in .45). After shooting these Legions I can’t go back to p320, and only keep the 365 as a carry option. So I carry 365 and 229. No more plastic even with the FCU options. Thanks for another good one.
I agree. I have a 229 Elite and it's my favorite pistol in the stable. I just don't shoot composites as well. I know that doesn't really make sense, maybe it's a mental thing. I just prefer metal bodied pistols. Which sucks because though I love the 229, she's a tank.
Over a 1000 rds through mine of S&B and not one stove pipe.
well hes using light 94 grain ammo... so its going to hit in weird places and have less cycle momentum. ammo's fault, not the gun.
Maximus Joseppi yeah I think the p320 line wasn’t really designed with that light of a round, I think 115 is about as light as it was expected to deal with
My wife's P320 runs great even with steel cased russian junk. And she's five foot tall and under 110 pounds, so I'm pretty sure she limp wrists it at least once in a while. She's completed the 4 day handgun course at FrontSite twice with it. No stoppages.
Maximus Joseppi yeah idk why he did that???
@@SoccerVJ2011 cause the ammo was free. he shilled out in the middle for them.. as they cause a gun to fail haha
Thanks for the reviews. This is one of the most popular pandemic pistols around. Excellent choice.
Ya to my detriment lol. Turned 21 a week ago, shot it at a range and fell in love. Unfortunately there aren't any in stock lol
I have the rxp and love it. It has ran flawlessly.
Sweet gun. Can’t wait for the Sig-X vs M18 vid!
Nice review, looking forward to the 1k review and how it handles the other ammo!
I made an X Compact from my full size P320 (trigger group with a Gray Guns flat trigger), and the barrel/slide assembly from P320 sub compact, ordered the X Compact grip module. It’s more accurate than I am, and it’s in my EDC rotation. I’ve had zero malfunctions.
Outlaw, I always appreciate your videos! It is good to see and hear you say that it is you and not the gun. However, I have about 600 rounds through my Compact, with NO FTE's(Extract), FTE's(Eject) or FTF's(Feed) for those who don't kno the acronyms. I only shoot 115gr. or higher though, and also only shoot standard pressure ammo as well. I have always found with any Sig I shoot, it has always been much more beneficial to use 115gr. with standard or a little higher pressure loadings. Just my experience, keep rocking awesome vids Brother.
How many people commented with "Honeth Outlaw" Are you related to Mike Tyson? I'm kidding bro, been a huge fan of your channel for a while now. Really awesome to see how your channel has grown.
I'm so used you to you ringing steel, I thought you were missing when you switched to the paper target. Silly me.
He doesn't miss.
@@stevenbobbybills he does sometimes, but rarely.
@@Genesis23OPB nah, he doesn't miss, the target moves.
I have a M18 and it have work perfectly, over 1500 and no malfunctions. But I have to clarify. I been using only NATO specs rounds (124g +P FMJ) or 136g. Take in consideration that the P320 (M17/18) series was made as a weapon system for the military, and the key word is system in the military that demand all parts work as a whole. I understand if is not desirable for civilian use but is how the military is been working for decades and for a reason . About accuracy it’s pretty consistent. My shooting group is very consistent and yes the weapon is not zeroed out of the box but is workable. I saw several friend having your same malfunction problems with M17/18 and P320 of all sorts, but after a good break in the gun works great and supper reliable. Still great review and work.
That 1911esque grip angle!! Gotta love it.
I bought one of these when they first came out..Loved how it felt in my hand but wasnt wowed by it..I got rid of it..I just bought a new one one and its quite a bit different then the first one..Some of the problems,like the loaded chamber indicator have been removed..Also,you can now mount a red dot and KEEP the rear sights..I have the Romeo 1 pro on mine..Came with it..The sights are different as well being raised you can easily co-witness..I love the new one and will keep it..Good job out of Sig to rectify some of the negatives in this gun..Peace
Am I the only one counting days until Sig releases p320 X Carry Tac-ops? Good review as always!
Thank you for posting, for I have been intermittently seeking a compact pistol under $500.00.
Traded my p320 compact for a m&p compact. Very glad I did, I shoot it much better.
I had the same experience. My 2.0 shoots tighter and my Sig p320 tacops shot low left. Why adjust your point of aim when there’s other guns that shoot dead on
Low left...never heard of anyone missing low left....
From a physics perspective, it's the angle of the dangle along with mental perception and dissonance proportionately misaligned with visual acuity of percieved target acquisition....
@@mntmn4228 "this gun shoots low-left", like the range-master or instructors equivalent of a dad joke.
@@mntmn4228
Pushing and not enough pad on the trigger.
I have a P320 X Full-size with Romeo1Pro. Over 1,000 rounds and zero malfunctions. I still wouldn't carry it though until concerns of uncommanded discharge for the 320 are resolved or addressed. It still makes a perfect backup home defense gun.
I’m not a big Sig guy, myself. The 365 is the only one which I own (and I love it). But if I were to grab a 320 this would probably be it. I love the way that they look and the ergos seem great from when I’ve picked them up.
as an asian, I love my 365 XL. But when I picked up a P320, I realized that full size guns are meant to be held by those with size L hands. I have Size M. I can never hold a full size gun. Which makes me want to cry. I almost wanted to cry at the store when I held it. (I can hold it but I'm not confident I'll be able to shoot well)
drakke125
Hi!! I’m Asian too and I’m able to comfortable shoot a full sized 320. The xcompact is much smaller and easier to handle then a full 320. It’s very similar in size to the 365xl. I prefer the 320 bc it has a lot more aftermarket support and I can customize it more.
drakke125 you must have small hands not medium. I can easily grip a full-size gun with my medium glove sized hands. You know they also offer smaller grip modules.
Hell yeah brother! Been wanting one of these for a minute now
I was waiting for you to do this review. I must say I have this gun myself and I had the same stove pipe issue. However, after wiping off the thick lube sig puts on the and oiling it the gun ran perfect. Also I did see myself grouping to the left as well i think its just a characteristics of the gun.
I just received mine a week ago after a months long wait for it to be shipped to me and for the background check to clear. Haven’t found any ammo for it yet because everything is sold out or expensive as hell lol. Eagerly awaiting your 1000 round review, hoping I made the right purchase.
I agree with you on the sights 😢. I wanted to love the p365 when I rent it out and I was having a hard time with the sights, perhaps I’m accustomed to the Ameriglo sights on my Glock. I’ll definitely will be renting out again in hopes that I will adjust and perform better with a sig.
You’re good man, keep up your outstanding reviews!
I have the RXP version of this with the red dot, and it's the pistol I'm most accurate with. Way more than my beretta 92x
Picking mine up tuesday !!!!
Thanks for doing a review on this gun. Its my every day carry and I love it. Its nice to know what your opinion is. Thanks
Got a 320 with the 3.9 barrel applied the xcompact frame, i like the undercut & beavertail better on the xseries, included some truglo sights & a go gun pedal ,feels good but as you had said it shooting liw left helped me @ the range my first go with it, befir i did the tru glo , its better than before & i still haven't ysed a bore sight on it a yet, the slide on mine doesnt come with the raised loaded chamber indicator, a good looking setup, confortable, now i'd like a slide where i can try a red dot ... if its legal in my country, love the videos keep up the good work
RXP X Comp also. Perfect!
Also have several Glocks and 1911s. I pick this and the 1911s over all the rest.
Love your videos, best reviewer out there
I also picked this up recently and mounted a Trijicon RMR on it. My only complaint is how easy it is for me to accidentally press the slide release and prevent a last round hold open. I shoot 1911s often and my position on the thumb safety is habitual.
Sigs come packed with a lot of grease and you have to clean and lube them prior to shooting. I've had zero stoppages with my P320RX, which I have owned and competed with since 2017.
I bought the Xcarry then swapped into the xcompact grip module, just had to buy the smaller mag. Compact grip is so much better comfort and concealment
My conceal carry weapon 👌🏼 went from a G48 to this one and I'm not looking back.
Picked up an XCompact around Feb and haven’t had any stovepipe issues. As far as accuracy goes it’s a handgun that your new to so I can only assume there will be more issues with the shooter than the gun. I know when I went from a Glock to my Sig I had to adjust how I shot due to the grip angle difference.
Man these are just tough looking pistols best looking handgun ever no question
Thanks for another great review.....honest and unbiased.
I have one of these and I hace no problem hitting anything with it. In fact I shoot this gun better than all of my handguns except my m&p shield 1.0.
Looking forward to seeing you run some more appropriate ammo through it. Our closest range only had frangible 9mm for a little bit, chopped something like 7 rounds in a glock17, maybe 4 in a 229 legion, always stops the fun cold.
I got the M18 for my first carry weapon. My accuracy was really poor until someone pointed out that Sig utilizes combat 3 dot alignment instead of traditional 3 post alignment.
I own this gun and have had zero issues. I don't have any problems with the sights & the loaded chamber indicator has never gotten in my way. Mine shoots exactly where I aim. If Im off, its shooter error not the gun. I primarily shoot 115 gr S&B because that's whats available to me right now.
Don't get the version with the chamber indicator.....lol. I personally LOVE Sigs but didn't care for the trigger on my new P320 XFive Legion at all. MUSHY!! So I sent it off to The Sig Armorer and got a competition trigger job and BAM! This is now one of the best, if not the best, trigger I've ever worked. And to say that is a lot, been shooting professionally for over 30yrs starting in the Marines through police departments, the FAMs, and other unmentionable contracting gigs. I just got a Sub Compact slide, XCompact frame, and made my XFive Legion into a SubCompact...lovin' it!
Your shooting is great!
this has been my favorite sig
have you tried the 226 sao? Bc you should its so damn awesome
Honest Outlaw I don’t know how you feel about the 226 scorpion but I can’t wait till mine shows up. Also picked up a 229 the other day. Thanks for the great content man. Much appreciated!
This gun is the bomb diggity. Yes sir!! One of the best guns out there!!
I have my p320 rxp x compact for about three months. The iron sights shoot low but the red dot makes it fun. In the summer I feel it is too large to carry with the red dot on it. Maybe when it gets colder I will carry it more? It is a very nice pistol though. I have not had any malfunction with about 700 rounds of 115/124 gr blazer brass. My p320 x5 legion had great iron sights and was very accurate. Recently put a romeo 1 pro red dot on it which is fun but I sure do miss the adjustable dawson precision rear sight I took off to install the optic.
Get your sight pusher out and move the back site to the right. All my sigs are off until I shoot and adjust them. So are the colts smiths rugers etc.
I really wanted this to be perfect. Looks like they need to refine a couple of things first before I consider it. Thanks for sharing!
he was running 95grn ammo. Never had a problem with mine.
I put a Wilson combat grip module on my m18. Great improvement. I honestly believe the WC grips are comparable to the x series grips from sig if not maybe even better
"We have about a 15 mile per hour cross wind so it shouldn't be an issue. Maybe it will."
Yeah, Sigs and I run hot and cold accuracy wise by model.
Same here. I'm deadeye with the old metal frame models like the 229. But I can't hit shit with the 320s. Some guns just lend themselves better to my shooting style than others.
One of my favorite weapons. Only reason I no longer have it is that I wanted my brother to have a solid defense weapon!
This is my go to carry. Love everything about it. More comfortable for me than the Glock 19.
Hey man I'm a big supporter of your channel here in Canada. question I have is I'm looking to buy a 1911 in a 9 mm and I don't want to spend an arm and a leg maybe around a thousand what would you recommend keep up all the good content
Not my kind of gun but one of the best shooting instructors out there.
This is a great model. Prob my fave of all times.
Got to shoot one of these at a indoor gun range and loved it. But I'm going with the p320 m17 for my 21st bday in less than a month.
Same here. Turned 21 a week ago. Word of warning, I can't find one anywhere. If I were you in about a week have someone of age order it. And if you haven't already get your new ID ordered as your pre 21 one won't register correctly.
Sincerely you from the future
Good review. I had a P250 and sold it because I shot high right all the time. Thought it was the DAO trigger. Tested a P320 and same results. Really hoping the cuts on the 320xc would change it up but I dunno now. This is the only family of guns I have had this issue with lol.
I’m grabbing the X-Carry, love my X5 Legion
If you watch the video with subtitles it auto generates the gunfire as applause and the ringing steel as music. I 100% approve.
I love my P320 X carry with full grip
I run a p320 subcompact In the xcompact frame. I don’t have that annoying indicator. I also tried the flat trigger and curved. Much better accuracy with the curved.
I sent my p320 to PMM, and had the slide milled for better iron sights, and an RMR instead of the DPP.
I always appreciate your reviews. You seem to have really shitty luck with SIGs. The X Compact is my edc and I’ve never had a failure with it, and it hits where I aim it. Same situation with the M17 and M18. No problems for me with either gun. I look forward to your 1000rd review.
Am all in with my m18 but that x compact grip mod with a 15 round mag sounds good
You had the same problem with the Canik TP9 Elite. Use some Nato type loads and you issues will go away. Have seen many other reviews of Canik with zero issues.
I know just what you're saying I don't shoot as well as you do but I'm getting that left & low as well, do you think the chassis has a little movement while the bullets leaving the barrel, did you experience that with the beretta apx ? , I only have 300 rds in it, haven't had a stove pipe but keeping my finger crossed, I like how it shoots , but I'm regulated to one gun in Jamaica, we haven't been able to get the flat triggers or grip modules here as yet, but for us is hitting center mass
It shoots quite flat given its high bore axis, did you perhaps shoot non frangible ammo? Like 115gr or 124gr? If so how was the recoil impulse
I like the M-18 myself. However, the X Compact is just out of stock for around $545 or seen one in stock for $728. That's a bit too crazy, even during these times. Can't find 9mm ammo anywhere also.. Much less other ammo
Love my x compact!
Looks awesome !
I shoot the Sig P320 well, but I have bad luck with their suppressor height iron sights. They slowly move while shooting. First it was the front sight, then I brought a new slide and new sights and now it’s the back sight. I’ve never had any stove pipes though.
You're the only YT I see having problems with sigs
great review Boss
It’s common to have a few failures during the break in. Be interested in seeing the 1000 round review an get an update. My 365 XL shoots low an to the left, and I agree the sights are not my favorite (only 100 rounds through it). My P220’s have no such issues. 😬