I have a lot of issues with Russell Brand but I admire the fact that a big star would be willing to collaborate with this small-ish channel and discuss serious issues with someone. Nice.
I saw this after after another debate with Mr Andrews and I have to say, I unironically believe he is a dangerous man. The fact that a person with such selective, on-sided and often plainly wrong reading of history can be an academic and have an entire department dedicated to promoting his ideas is at least worrying. There are so many ridiculous statements in this talk that it would take an essay to debunk them. China is now part of white-supremacy? Blacks in America have it worse than before MLK? Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out? Trump is better than Obama for the black community? And ofc, everyone is complicit it this mythological white-supremacy except for Kehinde (and supposedly his merry band of fellow activists) XD I chuckled when Russel was compared the "the spear of white supremacy". I have tremendous sympathy for him as a comedian, commentator and media personality, but calling his participation in this discussion an "interrogation" is laughable given how little he pushed back against Kehinde's nonsense.
“Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out?” I am a South African. I am the first of the born free generation. My mother is white from Kings Norton Birmingham. My father is South African of Indian descent. I grew up celebrating both Eid and Christmas. I am South African middle class. Before my birth my father spent years in jail for his part in the struggle to end Apartheid. Fighting under the banner of the ANC. My mixed race parentage was to the state legitimised, my basic human birthright won, by my fathers sacrifice. A national election took place the year I turned 18. I so wished I could vote for the ANC. The party that, even within it’s current ranks, held leaders who fought and sacrificed more fiercely than even my own father for my right to liberty. I could not. With 18 years past I could now see, despite all that was sacrificed for that very right, freedom did not start but ended at the ballot box. The very existence of my cultural ethnicity is an ode to the idea of the rainbow nation identity. Madiba’s spiritual dream of celebrating diversity. That at my core is absolutely not only much of what I fundamentally believe but is the very essence of what I believe it means to be born free. To be born me. To be born free was a right bestowed by the freedom of those around me. Born in Johannesburg I only had to open my eyes, quite literally, to a nightmarish inequality and realise that it was only a dream. As a romantic at heart who would far rather defend the position in which I fall asleep. I do not mean to argue or prove a point. A tact I would attempt to try is not to justify this statement as a truth but rather to argue the notion that nothing about the statement is at all outlandish. As a South African I simply wish to repeat - Appartheid never ended and Mandela sold out. At 18, as one of the few of a disillusioned youth who actually showed up to vote, I could only go as far as to emancipate a spoilt ballot.
Short version: because whites are under represented in the hospitality and manufacturing industries, the global free market is racist. I’ll read the book but I’ll be very annoyed if it fails to calibrate its data for non whites being over represented in developing countries who rely on those jobs. And fails to mention any example of where countries have booked white contractors who were or were not the best incoming offer.
@@Laura-sg6ss the bottom line is always standards of education that developed in the respective geographies. we need to look at why certain countries pulled ahead hundreds of years ago in the world stage. philosophy, curiousity, enlightenment
You have misunderstood this. Not your fault as the history slavery and colonialism as well as genocide by Europe is not in any school curriculum. It should be in my opinion.
@@heytony4162 You'd have to make your case. I've read his book. It's a string of angry fallacies bookended with virtue signalling and void of forward facing suggestions.
@@robbyduffy1 >we need to look at why certain countries pulled ahead hundreds of years ago in the world stage. philosophy, curiousity, enlightenment I'd say it's a combination of geography and culture, where the former was by far the most influential. Europe was just lucky and then was able to use that luck to pull ahead.
To address Mr. Brand's query and contrary to Malcolm X’s exclusionary statements, there will always be exceptions in all relationships. There are good folks in EVERY ethnic group. However, it is essential for the non-Black communities who wish to join a humane approach towards the rest of the world to realize that they can work within their own cultural paradigms and collaborate by employing their privileges to move the marker towards health and civilized change. They don't have to wait to prove anything to be welcomed into the ranks of the Black Diaspora. Unfortunately, most of the European Diaspora will chose to quietly maintain the status quo...It's about ratios.
“Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out?” I am a South African. I am the first of the born free generation. My mother is white from Kings Norton Birmingham. My father is South African of Indian descent. I grew up celebrating both Eid and Christmas. I am South African middle class. Before my birth my father spent years in jail for his part in the struggle to end Apartheid. Fighting under the banner of the ANC. My mixed race parentage was to the state legitimised, my basic human birthright won, by my fathers sacrifice. A national election took place the year I turned 18. I so wished I could vote for the ANC. The party that, even within it’s current ranks, held leaders who fought and sacrificed more fiercely than even my own father for my right to liberty. I could not. With 18 years past I could now see, despite all that was sacrificed for that very right, freedom did not start but ended at the ballot box. The very existence of my cultural ethnicity is an ode to the idea of the rainbow nation identity. Madiba’s spiritual dream of celebrating diversity. That at my core is absolutely not only much of what I fundamentally believe but is the very essence of what I believe it means to be born free. To be born me. To be born free was a right bestowed by the freedom of those around me. Born in Johannesburg I only had to open my eyes, quite literally, to a nightmarish inequality and realise that it was only a dream. As a romantic at heart who would far rather defend the position in which I fall asleep. I do not mean to argue or prove a point. A tact I would attempt to try is not to justify this statement as a truth but rather to argue the notion that nothing about the statement is at all outlandish. As a South African I simply wish to repeat - Appartheid never ended and Mandela sold out. At 18, as one of the few of a disillusioned youth who actually showed up to vote, I could only go as far as to emancipate a spoilt ballot.
I reckon I could resolve this this problem out with a single act .and I'm shocked really no person has ever mention it and get that race candle burning to the ground
Racism came before race. If you didn't know that... I suggest you pick a book up about it and read it. "Get that racism* candle burning to the ground."
@@Laura-sg6ss pretty sure he says it's all the white people that's race discrimination don't have to look it up .my son ain't responsible I'm not so now it's a race candle
Why do we tolerate people like him? Aren't there limits to the amount of racism he's exporting from his so called " Black studies" position? Shouldn't his post be scrapped? And if he wants he can leave.
And go where? Jamaica? Africa? We “tolerate” him because if we are British, we simply have to recognise firstly that this disorder exists, and then do our utmost to battle it and win out. Hearing painful truths that deconstruct everything that you thought you were is incredibly difficult, but what’s the alternative? Cowardice, that’s the alternative. Ever since the Second World War, we’ve told anybody who will listen that we’re a brave and great nation, yet we can’t even stomach uncomfortable history, much less make inroads towards repairing the damage done. Instead, we talk about acts of “racism” being perpetrated against us as white people. Bravery eh? We need to do better.
Indeed. All about hierarchy, keeping people down and the people with the more resources as Black and Brown. So by extension, yes! That is exactly why they had to be dehumanised first.
I have a lot of issues with Russell Brand but I admire the fact that a big star would be willing to collaborate with this small-ish channel and discuss serious issues with someone. Nice.
I wish this Kehinde Andrews would move to a different country.
Yes he hates white people but you are right he is in a while majority country, don't make sense
I saw this after after another debate with Mr Andrews and I have to say, I unironically believe he is a dangerous man. The fact that a person with such selective, on-sided and often plainly wrong reading of history can be an academic and have an entire department dedicated to promoting his ideas is at least worrying.
There are so many ridiculous statements in this talk that it would take an essay to debunk them. China is now part of white-supremacy? Blacks in America have it worse than before MLK? Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out? Trump is better than Obama for the black community? And ofc, everyone is complicit it this mythological white-supremacy except for Kehinde (and supposedly his merry band of fellow activists) XD
I chuckled when Russel was compared the "the spear of white supremacy". I have tremendous sympathy for him as a comedian, commentator and media personality, but calling his participation in this discussion an "interrogation" is laughable given how little he pushed back against Kehinde's nonsense.
“Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out?”
I am a South African.
I am the first of the born free generation. My mother is white from Kings Norton Birmingham. My father is South African of Indian descent. I grew up celebrating both Eid and Christmas. I am South African middle class.
Before my birth my father spent years in jail for his part in the struggle to end Apartheid. Fighting under the banner of the ANC. My mixed race parentage was to the state legitimised, my basic human birthright won, by my fathers sacrifice.
A national election took place the year I turned 18. I so wished I could vote for the ANC. The party that, even within it’s current ranks, held leaders who fought and sacrificed more fiercely than even my own father for my right to liberty.
I could not.
With 18 years past I could now see, despite all that was sacrificed for that very right, freedom did not start but ended at the ballot box.
The very existence of my cultural ethnicity is an ode to the idea of the rainbow nation identity. Madiba’s spiritual dream of celebrating diversity. That at my core is absolutely not only much of what I fundamentally believe but is the very essence of what I believe it means to be born free. To be born me. To be born free was a right bestowed by the freedom of those around me.
Born in Johannesburg I only had to open my eyes, quite literally, to a nightmarish inequality and realise that it was only a dream.
As a romantic at heart who would far rather defend the position in which I fall asleep. I do not mean to argue or prove a point. A tact I would attempt to try is not to justify this statement as a truth but rather to argue the notion that nothing about the statement is at all outlandish.
As a South African I simply wish to repeat - Appartheid never ended and Mandela sold out.
At 18, as one of the few of a disillusioned youth who actually showed up to vote, I could only go as far as to emancipate a spoilt ballot.
Short version: because whites are under represented in the hospitality and manufacturing industries, the global free market is racist.
I’ll read the book but I’ll be very annoyed if it fails to calibrate its data for non whites being over represented in developing countries who rely on those jobs. And fails to mention any example of where countries have booked white contractors who were or were not the best incoming offer.
Okay you definitely missed it... the question to ask is why are they underrepresented?? Answer that please. And give a short version first.
@@Laura-sg6ss the bottom line is always standards of education that developed in the respective geographies. we need to look at why certain countries pulled ahead hundreds of years ago in the world stage. philosophy, curiousity, enlightenment
You have misunderstood this. Not your fault as the history slavery and colonialism as well as genocide by Europe is not in any school curriculum. It should be in my opinion.
@@heytony4162 You'd have to make your case. I've read his book. It's a string of angry fallacies bookended with virtue signalling and void of forward facing suggestions.
@@robbyduffy1 >we need to look at why certain countries pulled ahead hundreds of years ago in the world stage. philosophy, curiousity, enlightenment
I'd say it's a combination of geography and culture, where the former was by far the most influential. Europe was just lucky and then was able to use that luck to pull ahead.
What is this music at the start?
So much sense spoken in one conversation. I keep coming back
Arab slave trade involved castration and infanticide. Is he really saying it wasn’t as bad because they didn’t make money?
To address Mr. Brand's query and contrary to Malcolm X’s exclusionary statements, there will always be exceptions in all relationships. There are good folks in EVERY ethnic group. However, it is essential for the non-Black communities who wish to join a humane approach towards the rest of the world to realize that they can work within their own cultural paradigms and collaborate by employing their privileges to move the marker towards health and civilized change. They don't have to wait to prove anything to be welcomed into the ranks of the Black Diaspora. Unfortunately, most of the European Diaspora will chose to quietly maintain the status quo...It's about ratios.
“Apartheid never ended and Mandela sold out?”
I am a South African.
I am the first of the born free generation. My mother is white from Kings Norton Birmingham. My father is South African of Indian descent. I grew up celebrating both Eid and Christmas. I am South African middle class.
Before my birth my father spent years in jail for his part in the struggle to end Apartheid. Fighting under the banner of the ANC. My mixed race parentage was to the state legitimised, my basic human birthright won, by my fathers sacrifice.
A national election took place the year I turned 18. I so wished I could vote for the ANC. The party that, even within it’s current ranks, held leaders who fought and sacrificed more fiercely than even my own father for my right to liberty.
I could not.
With 18 years past I could now see, despite all that was sacrificed for that very right, freedom did not start but ended at the ballot box.
The very existence of my cultural ethnicity is an ode to the idea of the rainbow nation identity. Madiba’s spiritual dream of celebrating diversity. That at my core is absolutely not only much of what I fundamentally believe but is the very essence of what I believe it means to be born free. To be born me. To be born free was a right bestowed by the freedom of those around me.
Born in Johannesburg I only had to open my eyes, quite literally, to a nightmarish inequality and realise that it was only a dream.
As a romantic at heart who would far rather defend the position in which I fall asleep. I do not mean to argue or prove a point. A tact I would attempt to try is not to justify this statement as a truth but rather to argue the notion that nothing about the statement is at all outlandish.
As a South African I simply wish to repeat - Appartheid never ended and Mandela sold out.
At 18, as one of the few of a disillusioned youth who actually showed up to vote, I could only go as far as to emancipate a spoilt ballot.
what a beautiful thought proving educating programme. kudos Russel n the panel
I reckon I could resolve this this problem out with a single act .and I'm shocked really no person has ever mention it and get that race candle burning to the ground
Racism came before race. If you didn't know that... I suggest you pick a book up about it and read it. "Get that racism* candle burning to the ground."
@@Laura-sg6ss pretty sure he says it's all the white people that's race discrimination don't have to look it up .my son ain't responsible I'm not so now it's a race candle
So is fine with people being in Slade as long as they're not making money that's what I'll get from the part when they talk about the Arab slave trade
Why do we tolerate people like him? Aren't there limits to the amount of racism he's exporting from his so called " Black studies" position? Shouldn't his post be scrapped? And if he wants he can leave.
And go where? Jamaica? Africa?
We “tolerate” him because if we are British, we simply have to recognise firstly that this disorder exists, and then do our utmost to battle it and win out.
Hearing painful truths that deconstruct everything that you thought you were is incredibly difficult, but what’s the alternative? Cowardice, that’s the alternative.
Ever since the Second World War, we’ve told anybody who will listen that we’re a brave and great nation, yet we can’t even stomach uncomfortable history, much less make inroads towards repairing the damage done.
Instead, we talk about acts of “racism” being perpetrated against us as white people. Bravery eh?
We need to do better.
No more talking want action
What absolute nonsense.
That’s what I love about critiques of Andrews, always so thorough.
@Michael Davidson well done on the big word!
This is my go to sleep video..thanks guys👍
Funniest comment I have ever seen this is such nonsense like most of what comes out of andrew’s rectum oh sorry mouth
37: 16 Capitalism is racism. That's so true, but this is the first time someone says it loudly.
Indeed. All about hierarchy, keeping people down and the people with the more resources as Black and Brown. So by extension, yes! That is exactly why they had to be dehumanised first.
If Capitalism was racism then Kehinde Andrews would still be wwiping his boatum on uh wahbuma tree.
Reality... this world is a test for mankind....God has a plan for all his creation....nothing stays the same forever....
I reckon I could with help but single handedly almost sort this race problem out
I’ve seen Kehinde Andrews has two English flags flying from his car while Euro 2020 is on.
Proof?
@@Laura-sg6ss you might be waiting a while
@@wofutokerati ikr 💀💀💀💀 what a clown
Kehinde Andrews is such a crying grifter
Boring