Just watch a couple other videos on this. That was clearly intentional. She wound up and shot right at the face. Then simply turns around and walks away while her former teammate is injured and in shock on the ground. She could have easily broken her nose, and she just walks away. Then, t-spoon is laughing with her on the sideline WHILE they are reviewing the play. Did she reign her in? No. It was like she was saying good job, that's exactly what you should have done. Obviously condoning dangerous and unsportsmanlike behavior that is a really bad look for both their team and the WNBA. Eventually Carter is going to seriously injure someone.
Agreed. It was nice to see an objective analysis. I gotta disagree with you on Kennedy's charge foul, though. That was the textbook definition of a charge. Carrington's feet had been in place so long they were growing roots.
@@ReadR00ster1 Then she needs to get herself into a position to stop the play, not smack someone in the face with what is, at best, an egregiously reckless challenge.
Carter needs to be suspended and ultimately banned if she doesn't stop. She also seems to go after ex ND players and ones that get more attention than her. She's jealous and mean spirited, which is a pity, because she does have talent... but she needs to go if she is going to play like a thug
I don't like how Tspoon is coaching these young ladies. This aggressive style of play from CC in nerve recking, also for coach to entertain that was poor sportsmanship and immaturity
It should have been an automatic ejection, automatic suspension and a minimum 10k dollar fine.. well that would have been what happened during the NBA Bad Boyz era. Leading with the elbow is a no-no.
This is blind speculation. T Spoon is not ordering hits. As far as Mabrey goes, she is an overpaid role player. Sky need to rebuild around Reese, Carter, MO and Cardoso. The rest are basically scrubs. Sky need a rebuild.
I just feel like the sky have had a weird mentality at times this season. Angel’s double double streak was a genuine goal and it got in the way of winning. Even Carter was ready for that streak to end. It doesn’t surprise me that marina felt disconnected from that kind of mentality.
I also thought Carter was not into the stat padding. She has problems, but wants to win, and plays hard all the time - just needs to get herself under control.
I am surprised you do not have more subs. Your takes are very level headed, and clearly you are a long time fan/observer of the game. Can you do a video on the Fever roster, and what moves might happen off season?
Lol B2S.. I'm not *clutching my pearls* either. Man. I love how spicy the W is. It's takimg me back to those golden late 80s/early 90s NBA years. When players and teams genuinely, didn't like each other. Now we got dudes shaking hands, cracking jokes, and helping dudes from the opposing team up. During actual playoff games. They need to take notes from their sister league on how to have a competitive edge.
The sky give me bad boy piston vibes people hated them but as time went on started to love them. People complain if your too "soft" they complain if you're physical there's no pleasing people if they always wanted to hate you. I don't think that marina dislikes the sky or anything but she didn't want the responsibility and work load totally understandable.
@@RichardIILionheart The NBA back then was much more exciting to watch than now. Makes one appreciate the physical play in the WNBA. I guess the NBA now is perfect for you soft rainbow flag boys.
@@pushinp157 If you did not live in Detroit, you never liked the Pistons of that period. By the way, punctuation is your friend. Use it to help communicate.
I will be very surprised if Carter gets suspended, because that would undercut the WNBA’s inanity about physicality and how physicality is in its DNA and how the league thinks physicality is somehow good for the game. By my count that is the fourth clear cheap shot that Carter has made this season; there could be more.
U R right. I got that as well from broadcast of sky Vs aces game. Don't think WNBA wants to touch this with 10 foot pole. I think they are hoping that she does not break someone nose with a fifth flagrant. If she does - they will get crushed.
*I thought your previous take on why Mabrey left was on point. It didn't help that T-Spoon called Chennedy "she our star player" when Mabrey came to the Sky to be the star player.*
There is Lot of restructering to be done in the wnba.I QUIT WATCHING MOST ALL OF BASEBALL BECAUSE PLATE UMPIRES CALL SRIKES BALLS AND BALLS STRIKES. DONT PISS OFF THE OPORTUNITY YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW TO GROW.
Lol gang.. you don't think the Ump's plate positioning may need to be looked at? Commissioner Munford has tried to change the game for the better, as much as he can. I just hated that the Ump's always tried to show up the players. And be the actual stars of the diamonds, over the actual players.
Mabrey got karma that’s all she’s been in situations like this before only she threw the cheap shot 😂 fact is the wnba as whole does this every day don’t single out one player or team for it when they all do it 😂😂😂 if angel wasn’t on this team y’all wouldn’t care
Giving the historical context of the word “thug”, I would suggest not using it to refer to a team of predominantly black women. It’s racially insensitive and offensive.
The word "thug" comes from the Hindi word ṭhag, which means "thief", "rogue", or "cheat". Ṭhag comes from the Sanskrit word sthaga, which means "scoundrel" and comes from the verb sthagati, which means "to conceal" and also " The earliest known use of the word "thug" is in 1356, when it was used to describe loosely organized groups of men who robbed travelers." Both taken from Google just now. The way I see it, Mabrey was robbed of a shot in a F2 manner by Carter while Carter's team (gang) cheered and laughed. Groups of people do not own words.
- I take Ur point and U R right. The intent with the use of the language was to say what the narrative would be by talking heads & that is due in large part because in real time - teams that are aggressive and push boundaries on physical play cause emotive reactions and the use of words like thug get used but then over time a team that was described as a bunch of thugs becomes beloved and re described as renegades or bad boys. Much like how muhammad Ali was big mouth draft dodger at the time but history has him now as conscientious objector and is beloved.
It’s so annoying when I hear people call a badass team or player a thug lol. I do think she went hard on her though. Always couldn’t stand Mabrey when she played against UConn so unfortunately I didn’t feel that bad 🤷🏻♀️ Interesting that now she plays for CT. Another great video.
It is in this case, Sky are 0-6 dysfunctional and in danger of missing the playoffs. Sun are favorites to make the finals and Mabry is averaging about 20/game
The coach gives out an award after each game, her pick of best player. Her award is a full-size boxing glove.😮 Thug move by thug coach teaching thugness to her players.
Chicago Sky is overcompensating for a lack of talent with cheap shots. Seeing it time and time again, especially Carter. Get some skills ladies. No one likes a dirty team.
Couldn't disagree with you more that only Carter herself "knows" whether she intentionally tried to hurt Mabrey. It is super obvious that she intended to break Mabrey's nose or worse. Just look at her actions immediately after the hit. Her cold stare showed her intention in a way that removes all doubt. Thuggery is not a good look for the league.
I believe add Reese and Carter and Cardosa are the foundation of a great team in two or three years yes they move they need to move a few more of those older players out I'm bringing a couple of more Young guns what they have the foundation of something special going on
Forget what you or anyone else thinks. What do the rules say. Play by the rules and forget all this immature mentality that some of these players have. The refs are there to enforce the rule while the game is being played. The whole thing looks unprofessional. I say play be the rule a of the game or you have to go!!!
It's funny that talking heads and casuals think Chicago is the dirty team when it's the Sun who are the goon squad of the wnba (I say that as a compliment). I agree it's like a bully against a bully in general, but I still question if Angel is a dirty player per se. She fights hard in the paint and has a potty mouth (on the court), but she doesn't seem one for dirty or cheap shots. I don't think she slapped Caitlin on the face on purpose, her eyes were on the ball the whole time. I love Chennedy, but she has a problem with this arm swipe thing. A lot assume it's dirty and intentional, maybe it is, but it could also be a bad habit, because she brings her arms down fast after she shoots too. Either way, she needs to work on it because she is too good for that. She's so important for women's basketball, earning comparisons to AI, but this is taking away from how good she is.
@@RichardIILionheart it's just that in the NBA it's the flashy guards that get highlights and bring in a lot of fans. Women's basketball doesn't have a lot of interesting highlights (to casuals), that's why Caitlin's logo 3s brought so much attention. The W is dominated by power forwards and post play, not guard play right now. That's all I'm saying.
Reese is a dirty player, not because of that specific foul against CC, but because she has a pattern of playing dirty. Besides cheering for Carter's flagrant on CC, Reese often flails her arms back into opponents neck & head or repeatedly jabs them in the chest with her elbows to get more space. I also saw both her & Carter try to trip players in a game against Seattle. And in the SEC championship, she pulled Cardosa's hair twice. As for Carter, though no one can say exactly what she was thinking at the moment she fouled Mabrey, she never even looked at the ball before she karate chopped Mabrey despite the fact that Mabrey hadn't even started lifting the ball up to go for a shot & Carter also kneed her in the stomach along with the karate chop to the face. And I am someone who actually enjoys watching the Sky games. For the most part, they are a fun to watch play & not boring like many of the other WNBA teams. But their dirty play really bothers me. Its hard to cheer for a team that you know could seriously injure someone at any moment.
Caitlin just smacked Jordan Canada in the face. Let's see if you guys keep the same energy. Is Caitlin a thug? Is there going to be a video on Caitlin bullying players? Or are we just finding new creatives ways to hate Angel Reese. I already know the answer to those questions.
Yep saw that. Sure will give it a shout out. Was wondering how long until got a comment on it. Less then 3 hours. Pretty good. Clark head hunts Canada!
@@GeorgeSTEVENS-s7l doesn't matter anytime a player is hit in the head it's supposed to be reviewed everytime. It wasn't they treated like a normal foul. And when Angel did the same thing earlier in the season they upgraded to a flagrant and all of Caitlin Clark fans said it was intentional and wanted her suspended. We have to keep the same energy on both sides.
@@back2sports Yea especially when a white Australian man calls black women thugs and call them loose change and say they have questionable characters for things they do on the basket ball court. There's video of Caitlin in college and the pros blatantly pushing her opponents that I'm sure you've seen. Where's the post on that? Why isn't she a thug? Isn't that questionable character? KEEP the SAME ENERGY
I don't understand chennedy she's fast shoots good but she tries to hurt others maybe she needs to quit basketball and go to the ufc and see if she can take what she dishes out
I think we need to completely retire the use of the word "thug" when talking about the W. it's clearly racially motivated and it doesn't even make sense.
I know thugs that are white. Please don’t start that shi- Thug definition a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal. "he was attacked by a gang of thugs" Quit trying to change the language!
A thug is a “a violent, aggressive person”….the shoe fits where it fits. Instead of saying it’s racially motivated to label someone an accurate definition, we should wonder if some of these flagrant fouls are racially motivated No need to blame people for calling out dangerous behavior
U dont retaliate w violence. U win the gsme This is a very immature position. Who wants to play for chicago thugs? Even chicago fighting w chicago in their own locker room w everyone listening.
Thomas grabbed Reese out of the air and threw her back down on the court.Did you make a video about that?she wasn't suspended which she should have been.Reese wore her out in the second half and she got frustrated.
Who cares. This kind of stuff is applauded in Hockey and baseball. And it happens in women's basketball too. But because Carter retaliated to getting elbowed in the face by Caitlin Clark, all of Caitlin Clark's soft fans got all hot and bothered and put Carter on a list where everything she does in not hyper scrutinized. It's so lame. It's not really newsworthy.
I thought the same but then saw the shots she layed on diggins-smith & Jewell loyd - she needs to get rid of the swinging arm as that can do some damage.
@@back2sports I am looking at all these fouls. Yeah, they are fouls, pretty hard the fouled person is always embelshing making it look worse than it is. I have more of problem with the flopping. It's why can't stand to watch soccer.
@@rebauer2000 I am telling her good play, because if you know you are beat you are supposed to foul hard so that they don't get an And-1. That is just a well coached player.
I personally think what is a little bit too much overreaction from the way I said I don't really even see her hitting her in the head I was not at the game all I see are the UA-cam pictures I just seem like a good hard foul since I got to file you're going to file you hard you're not going to get a three-pointer
No . She pouted on bench and Courtney Williams told her to cheer her teammates. Then they got into it. That is what happened. Later in the season a video came out which had Courtney involved in a fight and she left team. Overall ATL was a tire fire in 2021. Coach quit prior to start of season and owner of team did not like players and vice versa
It’s amazing that the women in the league spent the first half of the season trying to humble Caitlin Clark but not one player has the energy to humble C. Carter.
The league humbled her by kicking her off multiple teams for her attitude, most recently suspended from the ATL dream for conduct detrimental to the team.
@@wishfulthinking2371Chennedy was only kicked from one team. That same ATL team also had numerous other players kicked from the team for fighting. Including Courtney who was the reason Chennedy had issues in ATL. It's crazy to me Chennedy gets all the blame when Courtney proved to be an actual issue.
Half of them can't Play-Doh so we will not miss thim when they leave make room for better players Cater, Reese and Cardosa are the making of a great team
The intent with the use of the language was to say what the narrative would be by talking heads & that is due in large part because in real time - teams that are aggressive and push boundaries on physical play cause emotive reactions and the use of words like thug get used but then over time a team that was described as a bunch of thugs becomes beloved and re described as renegades or bad boys. Much like how muhammad Ali was big mouth draft dodger at the time but history has him now as conscientious objector and is beloved.
You think it's okay for the sky just to beat the s*** out of everybody they play against. You don't think it's okay for a Marina not want to play for a bunch of thugs. A team that worries more about double doubles then not too winning. What kind of sports guy are you. Not too smart are you That's why you don't got much of a following. Did you see what happened in the locker room afterwards did you hear about that. They destroyed it, screaming yelling fighting with each other. Chicago's a real class act aren't they. You're a real winner aren't you.
People tired of her double doubles she's not doing nothing spectacular for scoring points to help her team win the game she just getting her own personal stuff
Lmao... Do you even know basketball? You're mad because Angel Reese is amongst the only 4 players in the entire league who averages a double-double. Stay butt-hurt.
@@Bangs_Theory Here is the issue, if almost all of Reese's offensive rebounds are just her multiple attempts to either make one shot or get fouled, they are just empty stats that are not helping the team win or even score more. The point of getting those rebounds is to give your team more opportunities to score, but Reese never passes the ball to her teammates when she gets an offensive rebound. She just keeps chucking the ball up despite the fact that the defense is collapsing on her with each attempt until she either scores, gets fouled, or someone else gets the rebound. In the last game against the Aces, Reese only passed one offensive rebound to a teammate & that was only because she had to chase the ball down & therefore was no longer right under the basket where she is used to chucking it up. Now there is an argument to be made that she is still producing points despite the offensive rebounds being empty stats. Since these offensive rebounds happen in bunches within a few seconds, there is no way the team could convert all of her offensive rebounds into points in the seconds that exist between her getting each one. And sometimes her repeated rebound & chucking shots result in either her eventually making the 2pt shot or a foul shots. You would need to have statistics on how often Reese's multiple attempts at making a shot result in her actually either eventually making the 2pt shot or making foul shots versus how often they just end with someone else finally getting the rebound. And this is not on Reese. Reese is a phenomenal rebounder. What I do not understand is why opposing players don't try to defend against this. Yes, Reese has had more of her shots blocked than any other players in the league, but they never seem to try to block her out. If you know there is only about a 25% chance she will even make her shot, why not just focus on blocking her out as soon as she takes a shot vs trying to defend her original shot attempt?
Guys as mabrey say there levels to this shit😂😂 she an Carter as a situationship and we all know carter as a bad attitude that's just her jot saying it's acceptable but when leave it between the 2😂😂😂
Just watch a couple other videos on this. That was clearly intentional. She wound up and shot right at the face. Then simply turns around and walks away while her former teammate is injured and in shock on the ground. She could have easily broken her nose, and she just walks away. Then, t-spoon is laughing with her on the sideline WHILE they are reviewing the play. Did she reign her in? No. It was like she was saying good job, that's exactly what you should have done. Obviously condoning dangerous and unsportsmanlike behavior that is a really bad look for both their team and the WNBA. Eventually Carter is going to seriously injure someone.
Chennedy Carter is looking more like Kermit Washington every game
Weatherspoon is definitely complicit in Carter's behavior
This must be a new fusion sport between karate and basketball.
Thought this was gonna be propaganda tbh. Nice to see somebody just talking about hoop when it comes to womens basketball.
I plan to check out more.
Thanks - fyi some get the channel and like it and other hate it.
Agreed. It was nice to see an objective analysis. I gotta disagree with you on Kennedy's charge foul, though. That was the textbook definition of a charge. Carrington's feet had been in place so long they were growing roots.
@@chrisbritt-rogers8569 yep but i hate the charge with a passion. so i admit i am biased on that one!
She has a history and a pattern. When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.
Coach approval of fouls shows she is to blame.
Carter can ball, but she is under the microscope for physical play. She has gotta be aware of that. Sometimes you just have to concede a lay up.
Yep - she needs to lose the swinging arm
Not, if I am her coach, she is not concedng the lay up. I am trying to win a game and conceding layups don't help with that.
@@ReadR00ster1 Then she needs to get herself into a position to stop the play, not smack someone in the face with what is, at best, an egregiously reckless challenge.
Sky is falling. 1 and 3 since the break
Sky is good they are not falling because Angel just spoke about it and I seen it
@@Prettygirlraven Ok. Thank you.
Almost at 10k man. It's all happening!
Yea big milestone - slow & steady wins the race!
Carter needs to be suspended and ultimately banned if she doesn't stop. She also seems to go after ex ND players and ones that get more attention than her. She's jealous and mean spirited, which is a pity, because she does have talent... but she needs to go if she is going to play like a thug
You’re just racist
I don't like how Tspoon is coaching these young ladies. This aggressive style of play from CC in nerve recking, also for coach to entertain that was poor sportsmanship and immaturity
It should have been an automatic ejection, automatic suspension and a minimum 10k dollar fine.. well that would have been what happened during the NBA Bad Boyz era. Leading with the elbow is a no-no.
This is blind speculation. T Spoon is not ordering hits. As far as Mabrey goes, she is an overpaid role player. Sky need to rebuild around Reese, Carter, MO and Cardoso. The rest are basically scrubs. Sky need a rebuild.
I just feel like the sky have had a weird mentality at times this season. Angel’s double double streak was a genuine goal and it got in the way of winning. Even Carter was ready for that streak to end. It doesn’t surprise me that marina felt disconnected from that kind of mentality.
Reese B S stats are a distraction, she cares more about HER numbers and Barbie B S than her team
I also thought Carter was not into the stat padding. She has problems, but wants to win, and plays hard all the time - just needs to get herself under control.
@@stevenvox6549 She's been kicked off of 3 teams. If she doesn't get herself under control soon, she may find herself out of chances.
Blame the media
I am surprised you do not have more subs. Your takes are very level headed, and clearly you are a long time fan/observer of the game. Can you do a video on the Fever roster, and what moves might happen off season?
I tend to piss people off with views. Some get it but most don't .
Carrington is nuts.
Definitely intentional. Reese and Carter are prison basketball players and TSpoon is the warden.
Carter rocking nothing but black air forces. She be hooping but her mental ain’t right
Lol B2S.. I'm not *clutching my pearls* either. Man. I love how spicy the W is. It's takimg me back to those golden late 80s/early 90s NBA years. When players and teams genuinely, didn't like each other. Now we got dudes shaking hands, cracking jokes, and helping dudes from the opposing team up. During actual playoff games. They need to take notes from their sister league on how to have a competitive edge.
100% right - but we old! or at least I am!
Stupid episode because all these cheapshots are obviously intentional. History of these players in question are prone to violent cheating.
How do you violently cheat?
The sky give me bad boy piston vibes people hated them but as time went on started to love them. People complain if your too "soft" they complain if you're physical there's no pleasing people if they always wanted to hate you. I don't think that marina dislikes the sky or anything but she didn't want the responsibility and work load totally understandable.
No way. The Bad Boys were an all time great team that won 2 titles.
The Pistons back then were thugs on the court. In truth so were several other teams, just less so than the Pistons.
@@RichardIILionheart The NBA back then was much more exciting to watch than now. Makes one appreciate the physical play in the WNBA. I guess the NBA now is perfect for you soft rainbow flag boys.
@@Bangs_Theory
You can prefer the NBA of those days when the Pistons tried to turn basketball into mixed martial arts. I do not.
@@pushinp157
If you did not live in Detroit, you never liked the Pistons of that period.
By the way, punctuation is your friend. Use it to help communicate.
lol. They losing
Enjoyed your editing, new sub👍
Thanks for the sub!
I will be very surprised if Carter gets suspended, because that would undercut the WNBA’s inanity about physicality and how physicality is in its DNA and how the league thinks physicality is somehow good for the game. By my count that is the fourth clear cheap shot that Carter has made this season; there could be more.
U R right. I got that as well from broadcast of sky Vs aces game. Don't think WNBA wants to touch this with 10 foot pole. I think they are hoping that she does not break someone nose with a fifth flagrant. If she does - they will get crushed.
*I thought your previous take on why Mabrey left was on point. It didn't help that T-Spoon called Chennedy "she our star player" when Mabrey came to the Sky to be the star player.*
There is Lot of restructering to be done in the wnba.I QUIT WATCHING MOST ALL OF BASEBALL BECAUSE
PLATE UMPIRES CALL SRIKES BALLS AND BALLS STRIKES.
DONT PISS OFF THE OPORTUNITY YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW TO GROW.
Lol gang.. you don't think the Ump's plate positioning may need to be looked at? Commissioner Munford has tried to change the game for the better, as much as he can. I just hated that the Ump's always tried to show up the players. And be the actual stars of the diamonds, over the actual players.
Mabrey got karma that’s all she’s been in situations like this before only she threw the cheap shot 😂 fact is the wnba as whole does this every day don’t single out one player or team for it when they all do it 😂😂😂 if angel wasn’t on this team y’all wouldn’t care
Weatherspoon needs to tell Angel to stop shooting.
Carter is a dirty player.
So you say I think I think she's just a good hard-nosed player
Giving the historical context of the word “thug”, I would suggest not using it to refer to a team of predominantly black women. It’s racially insensitive and offensive.
How come Chicago acting like criminals though? Where’s the accountability?
100 people a weekend are shot in Chicago so I guess this is normalized , don’t want to offend anyone after all.
The word "thug" comes from the Hindi word ṭhag, which means "thief", "rogue", or "cheat". Ṭhag comes from the Sanskrit word sthaga, which means "scoundrel" and comes from the verb sthagati, which means "to conceal" and also " The earliest known use of the word "thug" is in 1356, when it was used to describe loosely organized groups of men who robbed travelers." Both taken from Google just now. The way I see it, Mabrey was robbed of a shot in a F2 manner by Carter while Carter's team (gang) cheered and laughed. Groups of people do not own words.
- I take Ur point and U R right. The intent with the use of the language was to say what the narrative would be by talking heads & that is due in large part because in real time - teams that are aggressive and push boundaries on physical play cause emotive reactions and the use of words like thug get used but then over time a team that was described as a bunch of thugs becomes beloved and re described as renegades or bad boys. Much like how muhammad Ali was big mouth draft dodger at the time but history has him now as conscientious objector and is beloved.
@@back2sports People who use that language to refer to women playing basketball are nothing but cowards.
It's Simple: Marina Mabrey ain't Felling it with Chicago no more.
It’s so annoying when I hear people call a badass team or player a thug lol. I do think she went hard on her though. Always couldn’t stand Mabrey when she played against UConn so unfortunately I didn’t feel that bad 🤷🏻♀️ Interesting that now she plays for CT.
Another great video.
Thanks for that. Cheers
Grass ain't always greener
Who won the game? Who had 24 points off the bench?
It is in this case, Sky are 0-6 dysfunctional and in danger of missing the playoffs. Sun are favorites to make the finals and Mabry is averaging about 20/game
Just win baby. The Raiders did, the Sky doesn't often enough so far. Let's see what they do in the playoffs....if they make it.
The coach gives out an award after each game, her pick of best player. Her award is a full-size boxing glove.😮 Thug move by thug coach teaching thugness to her players.
Chicago Sky is overcompensating for a lack of talent with cheap shots. Seeing it time and time again, especially Carter. Get some skills ladies. No one likes a dirty team.
Couldn't disagree with you more that only Carter herself "knows" whether she intentionally tried to hurt Mabrey. It is super obvious that she intended to break Mabrey's nose or worse. Just look at her actions immediately after the hit. Her cold stare showed her intention in a way that removes all doubt. Thuggery is not a good look for the league.
Fair enough
Chennedy is not right in the head.
Reese and Carter are cancers to every team. The Sky will wake up or continue to blow up.
The Sky are the Cobra Kai of the WNBA.
Sweep the leg Mr Lawernce. Do you have a problem with that?
I believe add Reese and Carter and Cardosa are the foundation of a great team in two or three years yes they move they need to move a few more of those older players out I'm bringing a couple of more Young guns what they have the foundation of something special going on
Forget what you or anyone else thinks. What do the rules say. Play by the rules and forget all this immature mentality that some of these players have. The refs are there to enforce the rule while the game is being played. The whole thing looks unprofessional. I say play be the rule a of the game or you have to go!!!
It's funny that talking heads and casuals think Chicago is the dirty team when it's the Sun who are the goon squad of the wnba (I say that as a compliment). I agree it's like a bully against a bully in general, but I still question if Angel is a dirty player per se. She fights hard in the paint and has a potty mouth (on the court), but she doesn't seem one for dirty or cheap shots. I don't think she slapped Caitlin on the face on purpose, her eyes were on the ball the whole time.
I love Chennedy, but she has a problem with this arm swipe thing. A lot assume it's dirty and intentional, maybe it is, but it could also be a bad habit, because she brings her arms down fast after she shoots too. Either way, she needs to work on it because she is too good for that. She's so important for women's basketball, earning comparisons to AI, but this is taking away from how good she is.
If Carter never played another WNBA game, basketball would barely notice.
I think women's basketball and the WNBA would be better off without Carter.
@amanda0artist great comment. 100% agree. Not fair to call Angel a dirty player and yes Carter needs to get rid of the arm swipe
@@RichardIILionheart it's just that in the NBA it's the flashy guards that get highlights and bring in a lot of fans. Women's basketball doesn't have a lot of interesting highlights (to casuals), that's why Caitlin's logo 3s brought so much attention. The W is dominated by power forwards and post play, not guard play right now. That's all I'm saying.
Reese is a dirty player, not because of that specific foul against CC, but because she has a pattern of playing dirty. Besides cheering for Carter's flagrant on CC, Reese often flails her arms back into opponents neck & head or repeatedly jabs them in the chest with her elbows to get more space. I also saw both her & Carter try to trip players in a game against Seattle. And in the SEC championship, she pulled Cardosa's hair twice.
As for Carter, though no one can say exactly what she was thinking at the moment she fouled Mabrey, she never even looked at the ball before she karate chopped Mabrey despite the fact that Mabrey hadn't even started lifting the ball up to go for a shot & Carter also kneed her in the stomach along with the karate chop to the face.
And I am someone who actually enjoys watching the Sky games. For the most part, they are a fun to watch play & not boring like many of the other WNBA teams. But their dirty play really bothers me. Its hard to cheer for a team that you know could seriously injure someone at any moment.
Connecticut and Chicago are the two dirtiest teams in the league.
Caitlin just smacked Jordan Canada in the face. Let's see if you guys keep the same energy. Is Caitlin a thug? Is there going to be a video on Caitlin bullying players? Or are we just finding new creatives ways to hate Angel Reese. I already know the answer to those questions.
Yep saw that. Sure will give it a shout out. Was wondering how long until got a comment on it. Less then 3 hours. Pretty good. Clark head hunts Canada!
Caitlin got beat and should have pulled up instead of hitting her I don't think it was intentional but it was a flagrant and she is why I watch wnba
@@GeorgeSTEVENS-s7l doesn't matter anytime a player is hit in the head it's supposed to be reviewed everytime. It wasn't they treated like a normal foul. And when Angel did the same thing earlier in the season they upgraded to a flagrant and all of Caitlin Clark fans said it was intentional and wanted her suspended. We have to keep the same energy on both sides.
@@back2sports Yea especially when a white Australian man calls black women thugs and call them loose change and say they have questionable characters for things they do on the basket ball court. There's video of Caitlin in college and the pros blatantly pushing her opponents that I'm sure you've seen. Where's the post on that? Why isn't she a thug? Isn't that questionable character? KEEP the SAME ENERGY
I don't understand chennedy she's fast shoots good but she tries to hurt others maybe she needs to quit basketball and go to the ufc and see if she can take what she dishes out
Anybody that play ball know that this on purpose and easy 2 do. We literally can it "playin it off"
I think we need to completely retire the use of the word "thug" when talking about the W. it's clearly racially motivated and it doesn't even make sense.
Carter acting way out of line , it’s dangerous
I know thugs that are white. Please don’t start that shi-
Thug definition
a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"
Quit trying to change the language!
A thug is a “a violent, aggressive person”….the shoe fits where it fits. Instead of saying it’s racially motivated to label someone an accurate definition, we should wonder if some of these flagrant fouls are racially motivated
No need to blame people for calling out dangerous behavior
That is only because of a misinterrpretation and people who misinterrpet things should not be appeased.
Carter is a thug - a racist thug. Reece is a thug. thug, thug thug.
U dont retaliate w violence. U win the gsme
This is a very immature position.
Who wants to play for chicago thugs? Even chicago fighting w chicago in their own locker room w everyone listening.
Thomas grabbed Reese out of the air and threw her back down on the court.Did you make a video about that?she wasn't suspended which she should have been.Reese wore her out in the second half and she got frustrated.
It was in the video - so yes I did make a video about thomas
Geno win every thing stop being a baby for Paige
If you call your former team a bunch of losers in the media and then have to play them in few days, what do you expect? Those are fighting words.
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It is a game, not cage fighting.
You don’t expect assault in the middle of the game.
She definitely didn't call them a bunch of losers.
Hummmm Hummmm hahahaha Hahahaha this is what in next, practice and play harder🎉
Chicago is a thug team and nobody is celebrating the Raiders.lol....
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Who cares. This kind of stuff is applauded in Hockey and baseball. And it happens in women's basketball too. But because Carter retaliated to getting elbowed in the face by Caitlin Clark, all of Caitlin Clark's soft fans got all hot and bothered and put Carter on a list where everything she does in not hyper scrutinized. It's so lame. It's not really newsworthy.
I thought the same but then saw the shots she layed on diggins-smith & Jewell loyd - she needs to get rid of the swinging arm as that can do some damage.
Carter is a thug. It shows what kind of person you are to support a thug like Carter.
@@back2sports I am looking at all these fouls. Yeah, they are fouls, pretty hard the fouled person is always embelshing making it look worse than it is. I have more of problem with the flopping. It's why can't stand to watch soccer.
@@rebauer2000 I am telling her good play, because if you know you are beat you are supposed to foul hard so that they don't get an And-1. That is just a well coached player.
Carter has four or five shots like this. CC actually got off easy. 😮
I personally think what is a little bit too much overreaction from the way I said I don't really even see her hitting her in the head I was not at the game all I see are the UA-cam pictures I just seem like a good hard foul since I got to file you're going to file you hard you're not going to get a three-pointer
Didn't Carter threaten teammates a couple of years ago. Carter has some serious issues
No . She pouted on bench and Courtney Williams told her to cheer her teammates. Then they got into it. That is what happened. Later in the season a video came out which had Courtney involved in a fight and she left team. Overall ATL was a tire fire in 2021. Coach quit prior to start of season and owner of team did not like players and vice versa
It’s amazing that the women in the league spent the first half of the season trying to humble Caitlin Clark but not one player has the energy to humble C. Carter.
because it's a non issue not worth anyone's time or energy.
The league humbled her by kicking her off multiple teams for her attitude, most recently suspended from the ATL dream for conduct detrimental to the team.
@@wishfulthinking2371Chennedy was only kicked from one team. That same ATL team also had numerous other players kicked from the team for fighting. Including Courtney who was the reason Chennedy had issues in ATL. It's crazy to me Chennedy gets all the blame when Courtney proved to be an actual issue.
Lmao go try it
The WNBA is becoming minor league football. No one wants to see that. It's not good basketball.
And then the sky showed why any self respecting player wants out, childish antics are a poor substitute discipline
Half of them can't Play-Doh so we will not miss thim when they leave make room for better players Cater, Reese and Cardosa are the making of a great team
@@Thomas-lc3hi NO GOOD PLAYERS WILL WANT TO PLAY WITH THEM
wtf was that thug word ????
Yes, fits Carter very well. She is a thug.
The intent with the use of the language was to say what the narrative would be by talking heads & that is due in large part because in real time - teams that are aggressive and push boundaries on physical play cause emotive reactions and the use of words like thug get used but then over time a team that was described as a bunch of thugs becomes beloved and re described as renegades or bad boys. Much like how muhammad Ali was big mouth draft dodger at the time but history has him now as conscientious objector and is beloved.
You think it's okay for the sky just to beat the s*** out of everybody they play against. You don't think it's okay for a Marina not want to play for a bunch of thugs. A team that worries more about double doubles then not too winning. What kind of sports guy are you. Not too smart are you That's why you don't got much of a following. Did you see what happened in the locker room afterwards did you hear about that. They destroyed it, screaming yelling fighting with each other. Chicago's a real class act aren't they. You're a real winner aren't you.
Yes
@@back2sports Lol if you don't got class just don't got class.
Lindsey allen is the worst starting PG in the league so she cant say much.
Hence why she needs to keep mouth shut and just be happy that she is in the league.
People tired of her double doubles she's not doing nothing spectacular for scoring points to help her team win the game she just getting her own personal stuff
Lmao... Do you even know basketball? You're mad because Angel Reese is amongst the only 4 players in the entire league who averages a double-double. Stay butt-hurt.
@@Bangs_Theory Here is the issue, if almost all of Reese's offensive rebounds are just her multiple attempts to either make one shot or get fouled, they are just empty stats that are not helping the team win or even score more. The point of getting those rebounds is to give your team more opportunities to score, but Reese never passes the ball to her teammates when she gets an offensive rebound. She just keeps chucking the ball up despite the fact that the defense is collapsing on her with each attempt until she either scores, gets fouled, or someone else gets the rebound. In the last game against the Aces, Reese only passed one offensive rebound to a teammate & that was only because she had to chase the ball down & therefore was no longer right under the basket where she is used to chucking it up.
Now there is an argument to be made that she is still producing points despite the offensive rebounds being empty stats. Since these offensive rebounds happen in bunches within a few seconds, there is no way the team could convert all of her offensive rebounds into points in the seconds that exist between her getting each one. And sometimes her repeated rebound & chucking shots result in either her eventually making the 2pt shot or a foul shots. You would need to have statistics on how often Reese's multiple attempts at making a shot result in her actually either eventually making the 2pt shot or making foul shots versus how often they just end with someone else finally getting the rebound.
And this is not on Reese. Reese is a phenomenal rebounder. What I do not understand is why opposing players don't try to defend against this. Yes, Reese has had more of her shots blocked than any other players in the league, but they never seem to try to block her out. If you know there is only about a 25% chance she will even make her shot, why not just focus on blocking her out as soon as she takes a shot vs trying to defend her original shot attempt?
Guys as mabrey say there levels to this shit😂😂 she an Carter as a situationship and we all know carter as a bad attitude that's just her jot saying it's acceptable but when leave it between the 2😂😂😂