If I had a nickel for every time a Doctor Who story was resolved by a cat sacrificing itself to save the TARDIS team, I'd have two nickels. Which doesn't sound like a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
You left out the worst part of Leela's imprisonment: she's carrying a virus that is deadly to the Z'nai which she's been carrying since she last encountered them on her travels with the Doctor. Her Z'nai captors die a short time into her imprisonment, but she remains hooked up to the torture machine that they put her in and, since the machine is designed to prevent its victims from dying during the torture, she just remains in the machine for an indeterminate period of time before K9 (somehow) shows up helps her pass on peacefully.
Maybe K9 just eventually decided to go and put down everyone doomed to an eternal cursed life. Just rolls up to Tim Shaw, the Family of Blood and Rassilon's tomb and just blasts them.
@@DayOldMeat That Time Vampire is one of the most confusing Doctor Who Stories that I've ever listened to. I can't make any sense of it, nor have I been able to find anyone who can. In terms of complexity of plot it makes Ghost Light look like a children's novel, by comparison.
I really would like a Three and Twelve story. One respects military authority, the other does...not. Could be fun. Also, one copied the other's fashion, minus the cape.
I mean, he himself needs to have a soul. Because his regenerations and body snatching as well as Professor yanna's watch from utopia all required the master to have some type of Essence of bing
Tbf, 10, 1 and 2 rock up later and Bernice just goes 'Nope, sorry, we already have enough, fuck off' and so they sadly leave while 2 has a joyful time getting to hit the console with a hammer
Can I just say that I am INCREDIBLY happy I've found this series? I've wanted a sort of chill exploration of doctor who lore to sleep to and my god. I've found it. Now I just need something similar with star trek, just exploring the weird ass beta canon lore like the fact that the entire reason First Contact happened is due to the Borg meeting the Eleventh Doctor and getting really into time travel for a while
The Eight Doctors was my first experience of expanded Doctor Who media, and it almost put me off it forever. You bringing it up now is triggering something akin to PTSD. I am hurt and shaking, and I can't feel my legs. Great Video!
There isn't really a line between science fiction and fantasy, it's more like a shower curtain, so many science fiction things have magical elements in them and I find that fascinating. Like, Star Trek also has the soul (called Katra by the Vulcans) as a physical thing that is used to explain a few things.
Aaaaaaaaaah. But. What does a shower curtain do? It doesn't just divide. It keeps wet splashes in and conceals nakedness on one side, and helps weirdos and serial killers do sneaking-up on the other. Which of these is science-fiction,.and which of these is fantasy? Well, hopefully the naked person in the shower is the fantasy, because the loony with the knife would be an unwholesome fantasy io have. But you see my point (and not because I'm in the shower).
@@petersvillage7447 I was thinking more along the lines that one side gets messy, so it goes to other side of the curtain to (hopefully) clean the mess (like the problem "We need a way to bring Spock back" was answered with "Well, Vulcan mysticism makes it so that Spock can transfer his soul into McCoy until it can be put back into his body"), but I like this train of thought.
Davis, you always say that all stories in all mediums are valid. Even grim, tragic stories. Not everything needs a happy ending. I talked to people who say happy stories bum them out, and by reading something sad and tragic they finally feel like someone understands their pain and gain some sort of catharsis. Stories about a hero wasting away in a prison are valid.
This is so strange. I haven't watched this yet, but the thumbnail corresponds to the current theme of Doctor Who stories I'm going thru: singularly powerful enemies (Fenric, the Eminence, Sutekh the Destroyer, etc.)
DAVIS really out here calling me out on my fear of the un-existence after death and my hopes that advancing medical technology will sustain me long enough to become immortal by digitizing my conscious
"The creature became extinct as the TARDIS moved into the future" By that logic wouldn't every companion age and die whenever they travel to the future? Or turn into a fetus when the TARDIS travels to the past?
Damn right I'm back for more. Trivia me up, Daddy DAVIS. Edit- sounds like soul is just shorthand for the phantasmagoric sense of consciousness we have that presumably dissipates when we die. I'm down with them being analogues.
Collision Course is rather funny as Doctors 3 - 8 team up to save the day and then 10 shows up accompanied by 1 & 2 and Bernice Summerfield is like: "Nope. Too many Doctors. Get out of here." and they're like: "Okay."
9:50 i mean wasn't it stated that when two Doctors meet, only the oldest version remembers? that's why War and 10 don't remember meeting 11, and 11 doesn't remember saving Gallifrey cause 12 was there too? so basicly 12 can tell 11 whatever he wants, cause after 11 leaves he won't remember anything anyway?
Tip? Uh… what about the long list of random UNIT people? Storm of the Horrofax reveals the entirely of the 3rd doctor’s era had a UNIT Major retconned out of it, Shadow of the Past revealed the Sergeant who had Benton’s job before Benton re-showed up, there’s the Unit Teams from UNIT Dominion and those three multi Doctor episodes…
I know you don't talk about fan stuff on this series but I'm surprised you didn't at least mention The Twelfth Day, which has 6 or 7 doctors actively participating in the story
As this channel is for people who love the DR WHO deep dive i have a question about old WHO. I have a vague memory of the Doctor killing a cyberman by rubbing a gold ring into its chest piece and for some reason i think it happend on steps in London? Did i just dream that as a child?
I think this I think you're mixing up two different episodes Because I remember the fifth doctor doing something Like that But the cyberman in lendon was with the second doctor
@@plantainsame2049 I know Adrics badge was used but i seem to remember it happening on some stone steps. Guess will have to watch them all again lol Decent excuse.
“Tissa”? I like that ship name but I’ve never shipped Tegan and Nyssa (watched all of 5’s era and there was no romantic chemistry between them) never shipped 9/10 and Rose also 13 and Yaz either. The way they are written comes off as “old people don’t know about love” (yes, my words) and cringe. If a younger writer came on board for 14’s era and developed Ncut’s incarnation + their companion/s also their romance, I’d be up for it
Tegan and Nyssa are canonically together my dude. Nyssa somehow gets back to 20th century Earth after many years on Terminus, reunites with Tegan (presumably shortly after Tegan left the TARDIS) and they fall in love and marry. They would later show up to Sarah Jane Smith's funeral and participate in the final battle against the Trickster.
@@elise205 Good for you, but I don’t count non-TV (books/comics, audios, internet-only stuff etc.) material as canon. Canon in this show is flexible (literally what “Broke Canon” is about) you can count whatever as canon or not, I can do the same.
If I had a nickel for every time a Doctor Who story was resolved by a cat sacrificing itself to save the TARDIS team, I'd have two nickels. Which doesn't sound like a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
This happened more than once what was the first time?
@@tykamen5588 Nekromanteia
Statistically for doctor who it’s a batting average for how often things overlap and are done again
Wow that middle bit got deep lol
1:29 new ringtone juat dropped
You left out the worst part of Leela's imprisonment: she's carrying a virus that is deadly to the Z'nai which she's been carrying since she last encountered them on her travels with the Doctor. Her Z'nai captors die a short time into her imprisonment, but she remains hooked up to the torture machine that they put her in and, since the machine is designed to prevent its victims from dying during the torture, she just remains in the machine for an indeterminate period of time before K9 (somehow) shows up helps her pass on peacefully.
Kind of like the fate of Mel in He Jests at Scars. Conscious but unable to move, essentially forever...
Maybe K9 just eventually decided to go and put down everyone doomed to an eternal cursed life. Just rolls up to Tim Shaw, the Family of Blood and Rassilon's tomb and just blasts them.
@@DayOldMeat That Time Vampire is one of the most confusing Doctor Who Stories that I've ever listened to. I can't make any sense of it, nor have I been able to find anyone who can. In terms of complexity of plot it makes Ghost Light look like a children's novel, by comparison.
Not me having a near existential crisis watching Broke Canon
I would like to thank you for giving me an existential crisis about whether or not I have a soul
I really would like a Three and Twelve story. One respects military authority, the other does...not. Could be fun. Also, one copied the other's fashion, minus the cape.
I'm sure Capaldi would have tried on or mentioned a cape, at least once.
''I wish he'd shoot me with his ray gun.'' - A random Dalek.
the double doctor stories are good but hard to do as Steven Moffat said.that is why we should look forward to what Russel T Davis is going to do
"The soul is an outmoded concept." according to the Master in "The Daemons". Still, you cannot always trust what he says.
I mean, he himself needs to have a soul. Because his regenerations and body snatching as well as Professor yanna's watch from utopia all required the master to have some type of Essence of bing
Tbf, 10, 1 and 2 rock up later and Bernice just goes 'Nope, sorry, we already have enough, fuck off' and so they sadly leave while 2 has a joyful time getting to hit the console with a hammer
Can I just say that I am INCREDIBLY happy I've found this series? I've wanted a sort of chill exploration of doctor who lore to sleep to and my god. I've found it. Now I just need something similar with star trek, just exploring the weird ass beta canon lore like the fact that the entire reason First Contact happened is due to the Borg meeting the Eleventh Doctor and getting really into time travel for a while
I was not prepared to have an existential crisis while watching a Doctor Who Broke Canon video...
The Eight Doctors was my first experience of expanded Doctor Who media, and it almost put me off it forever. You bringing it up now is triggering something akin to PTSD. I am hurt and shaking, and I can't feel my legs. Great Video!
Somehow read the title as "Doctor Who's Gay Run"
We sort of just had that on the show
*Fitz has entered the chat*
I love how this can either be about the Doctor running gay, or a particular run of the show being gay, and yet both are completely applicable.
I had a copy of Eight Doctors as a kid and LOVED it. All these years later I can't think why.
Oh I would've adored it at age 11 in fairness
There isn't really a line between science fiction and fantasy, it's more like a shower curtain, so many science fiction things have magical elements in them and I find that fascinating. Like, Star Trek also has the soul (called Katra by the Vulcans) as a physical thing that is used to explain a few things.
Aaaaaaaaaah. But. What does a shower curtain do? It doesn't just divide. It keeps wet splashes in and conceals nakedness on one side, and helps weirdos and serial killers do sneaking-up on the other. Which of these is science-fiction,.and which of these is fantasy? Well, hopefully the naked person in the shower is the fantasy, because the loony with the knife would be an unwholesome fantasy io have. But you see my point (and not because I'm in the shower).
@@petersvillage7447 I was thinking more along the lines that one side gets messy, so it goes to other side of the curtain to (hopefully) clean the mess (like the problem "We need a way to bring Spock back" was answered with "Well, Vulcan mysticism makes it so that Spock can transfer his soul into McCoy until it can be put back into his body"), but I like this train of thought.
No mention of that bizzare short with the zoom call between every Doctor?
Oh yeah, the one where Thirteen says “Ok boomer” to Six.
@@Chubby_Bub "Fam? Fam?!"
Davis, you always say that all stories in all mediums are valid. Even grim, tragic stories. Not everything needs a happy ending.
I talked to people who say happy stories bum them out, and by reading something sad and tragic they finally feel like someone understands their pain and gain some sort of catharsis.
Stories about a hero wasting away in a prison are valid.
I'm not debating it's validity, just hammering in how brutal some of these can get.
@@SamyulDavis I think Zoe's fate is more brutal. She gets sent to a mental institution because of her memories of the Doctor.
@@HiperPivociarz isn't that dodo?
@@resiseven7407 Maybe it's both?
This is so strange. I haven't watched this yet, but the thumbnail corresponds to the current theme of Doctor Who stories I'm going thru: singularly powerful enemies (Fenric, the Eminence, Sutekh the Destroyer, etc.)
0:55 seriously? The one time no word is more appropriate than exterminate?
Fuck you're pumping these out a minute
DAVIS really out here calling me out on my fear of the un-existence after death and my hopes that advancing medical technology will sustain me long enough to become immortal by digitizing my conscious
For a writer he sure does love taking things ridiculously literal, like with the "Soul" thing.
Sam: "How can you just sit there, and think the inevitably justifies your ignorance"
Me in my head: "Donut"
"The creature became extinct as the TARDIS moved into the future"
By that logic wouldn't every companion age and die whenever they travel to the future? Or turn into a fetus when the TARDIS travels to the past?
Leela also died in the first volume of the Short Trips, I believe.
I don't mind 10 showing up at the end of legacy of time because the classic doctors tell them that they don't need him and to go away.
Your multi-doctor song was musical perfection lol.
I’m very annoyed i missed this I was lost in a graveyard.
New broke canon aesthetic goes hard
Damn right I'm back for more. Trivia me up, Daddy DAVIS. Edit- sounds like soul is just shorthand for the phantasmagoric sense of consciousness we have that presumably dissipates when we die. I'm down with them being analogues.
Collision Course is rather funny as Doctors 3 - 8 team up to save the day and then 10 shows up accompanied by 1 & 2 and Bernice Summerfield is like: "Nope. Too many Doctors. Get out of here." and they're like: "Okay."
Zed’nai. Also, that cat’s a Singapura. My favourite breed.
Does the soul moon fact contribute to a similar way when Sokka from TLA said my first girlfriend turned into the moon.
you know, in the grand scheme of things us humans have just arrived, but we have no real idea how we got here.
9:50 i mean wasn't it stated that when two Doctors meet, only the oldest version remembers?
that's why War and 10 don't remember meeting 11, and 11 doesn't remember saving Gallifrey cause 12 was there too?
so basicly 12 can tell 11 whatever he wants, cause after 11 leaves he won't remember anything anyway?
sometimes you just gotta set up a joke
Fun fact: The Time Vampire was the first BF story I listened to. Bad idea.
Tip? Uh… what about the long list of random UNIT people? Storm of the Horrofax reveals the entirely of the 3rd doctor’s era had a UNIT Major retconned out of it, Shadow of the Past revealed the Sergeant who had Benton’s job before Benton re-showed up, there’s the Unit Teams from UNIT Dominion and those three multi Doctor episodes…
I know you don't talk about fan stuff on this series but I'm surprised you didn't at least mention The Twelfth Day, which has 6 or 7 doctors actively participating in the story
A tip? Uhh... Get a lot of sleep, sleep is important; but not too much, or else you might end up missing out on life.
Noice intro!
Why did I enjoy this video so much? DAVIS, are you nuts? :D
Dose that mean the doctor doesn’t have a soul
As this channel is for people who love the DR WHO deep dive i have a question about old WHO. I have a vague memory of the Doctor killing a cyberman by rubbing a gold ring into its chest piece and for some reason i think it happend on steps in London? Did i just dream that as a child?
I think this I think you're mixing up two different episodes
Because I remember the fifth doctor doing something Like that
But the cyberman in lendon was with the second doctor
@@plantainsame2049 I know Adrics badge was used but i seem to remember it happening on some stone steps. Guess will have to watch them all again lol Decent excuse.
@@Azphreal Yeah I think you're combining the invasion with earthshock
You conflated the titles of Echoes of the Future and Echoes of War.
“Tissa”? I like that ship name but I’ve never shipped Tegan and Nyssa (watched all of 5’s era and there was no romantic chemistry between them) never shipped 9/10 and Rose also 13 and Yaz either. The way they are written comes off as “old people don’t know about love” (yes, my words) and cringe. If a younger writer came on board for 14’s era and developed Ncut’s incarnation + their companion/s also their romance, I’d be up for it
Tegan and Nyssa are canonically together my dude. Nyssa somehow gets back to 20th century Earth after many years on Terminus, reunites with Tegan (presumably shortly after Tegan left the TARDIS) and they fall in love and marry. They would later show up to Sarah Jane Smith's funeral and participate in the final battle against the Trickster.
@@elise205 Good for you, but I don’t count non-TV (books/comics, audios,
internet-only stuff etc.) material as canon. Canon in this show is flexible (literally what “Broke Canon” is about) you can count whatever as canon or not, I can do the same.
@@tokublwhovian Ok but this seems like you're trying to find an excuse to say "these characters aren't gay" when they are.
@@elise205 I’m gay myself… I just don’t like Doctor and Companion relationships. Especially, ones that don’t have chemistry in the first place.
@@tokublwhovian Neither Nyssa nor Teagan are the Doctor my guy
Yo Essex boi, I would love to talk doctor who sometime. I'm in Southend. Link Me.
*_The Eight Doctors.._*
Me: _"Oh? Never heard of this one. Written by Terrence Dicks, too. Go on..."_
*_is a garbage book!_*
_Oh..._