The Failure of GI Joe: Sigma 6 (Or Sigma Six if ya nasty)
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More than anything GI Joe exists as a series of reboots and nowhere in it's history is that more illustrated than in the time between GI Joe: A Real American Hero and the first GI Joe live action movie where it seemed like Hasbro was rebooting GI Joe every few years.
One of those reboots was called GI Joe: Sigma 6 and it was an attempt to move away from war as entertainment and go in a more anime direction with a smaller team.
Did GI Joe: Sigma 6 succeed? What do you think...
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And remember; rebooting is half the battle
Worked for transformers (canon to original gi Joe)
Disney took that personally
*GI JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE!*
😂
Crazy that Hollywood never understands this loll
Sigma 6 may have been a failure, but it did give us the most kick ass Snake-Eyes figure of all time, so there's that
yep....
versatile swords, the SMG, zip line....oh and interchangeable mask/visor....
and the whole web gear harness looked cool too lol
EW... I'm a Snake Eyes collector. I've always loved the Arashikage Ninja part of GI Joe the most. I have nearly EVERY Snake Eyes figure ( and Storm Shadow ), and after displaying nearly all of them, I gotta say that the aesthetically BEST figure ( not accessories, just the figure ) ever made was the Sigma 6 Snake Eyes that had a helicopter backpack. The helicopter part was absurd, but if you look up "Sigma 6 Snake Eyes V6 Windblade" that figure looked amazing.
Fun fact: The actress that voiced Lady Jay in the original series was also the original voice of GM’s OnStar for years.
My sister stuck the suction cups from the Snake Eyes figure on my head while I was sleeping and I had to go to school for a week straight with beet red circles on my forehead. Fond memories of Sigma 6!
This dates me horribly, but my brother did this to me with the cover to an Atari joystick with the same result. My teacher sent me to the nurse which resulted in a call to my mom and utter mortification on my part.
Ha ha! I did that to myself with the suction cup from a Nerf hoop type thing. I stuck it to my head for a whiel and it left a hickey!
G.I. JOE would retaliate, what did you do to get back at your sister?
LMFAO!!!! that's hilarious....
I was ehhh late 20's when Sigma 6 was new? I bought a couple figures for old times sake....
I dig the figures actually, for one they can actually hold their weapons and for seconds just more detail lol and they look cool, not that the other versions didn't....
i still have a bunch of the 80's versions though just none of my faves like Dusty and Salvo and Alley Viper, I have an alley viper but it's a repro, not as good, different coor scheme, if you've seen the classified figures look up alley viper from that lineup, that's exactly like the one I had in like 89-90 or so....
I liked Salvo vus he had a shirt with the slogan "the right of might" on it and a quad rocket launcher, and Dusty was cool cus at the time the desert camo was unique plus he had that fabric helmet flap in the back and he was cool in the show lol
Should have done the figures as 3.4 inch figures instead of the to big fingers they made
Ahh Sigma 6, I have a soft spot for this, mainly because it was the only GI joe media my country got and it was one of my earliest shows i watched and remembered
This show along with TMNT(2003), & the Transformers Unicron Trilogy were a huge impact on my childhood.
Should be noted, but it’s batted around online that Sigma Six was originally going to be something of a continuation of Valor Vs. Venom, based on the plot points of Cobra Commander being imprisoned at the start and General Hawk recovering from something. In fact, I remember reading that parts of Sigma Six heavily drew upon elements of the scrapped Vvs.V follow-up “Robot Rebellion”.
If you can find the "First Strike" DVD they explicitly reference the events of Valor Vs. Venom when the Sigma Duke meets Hawk for the very first time. They also make it explicitly clear that outside of Snake-eyes, Jinx, Kamakura, & High-Tech, that the Sigma 6 Joes are not the original members, only members using those codenames.
Man, Marc Thompson really built himself up quite a filmography of 80's icons over the years. He was Cobra Commander in this, Megatron in Transformers Cyberverse, and last but certainly not least, Casey Jones in TMNT 2003. Guy must have a lot of fun in the booth.
He was so good as that Megatron!
Not quite an 80s icon, but he’s also narrated a lot of Star Wars audiobooks. His Billy Dee Williams impression is way better than any white guy should be able to pull off.
Karate Kid did it right! No reboot, no reimagining, no BS. Just continue the story, keep the same tone, be respectful of the source material and the original audience, create new stories that the new audiences can get into. That’s it. That’s the formula.
Why is that so hard for people to grasp?😂
I actually agree. I think what they should really be doing with G.I. Joe is to set it today with all new characters. The ARAH stuff happened in the 80's, and maybe one of them is the General Hawk of today. You know, have some file card last names that indicate they are someon's kid or whatever. Other than that, all new, and a new enemy tha tis not Cobra. You can always have soem references of course. Use a modern military aesthetic, though with that G.I. Joe flair, and run with that for a while.
Wouldn't the Jaden Smith movie technically be a reboot?
@@brianjl7477Yes, that is the biggest problem with the GI Joe franchise.
From the 60s to the 90s, you regularly got new teams and characters that told an ongoing story (whether they meant to or not) about how the GI Joe legacy adapts to the times. But in the 21st century, we just get rehash after rehash after rehash of the 80s characters forced into molds they don’t always fit instead of just telling new stories that fit whatever’s popular at the time.
If they wanted to keep popular characters like Duke and Scarlett around, they should’ve promoted them to leadership positions but let the stories focus on the new characters in the field.
@@AdamYJ I think maybe it was supposed to be, but the new movie I believe is supposed to have Jackie Chan's character, but some of th elegacy characters too, indicating that it is actaully in series with the others.
i love the way Baroness,Scarlett and jinx looked my subjects of cosplay as Gi joe Sigma six
of course i wish Lady Jaye was in this animation.
When i moved to the USA with my husband i was happy to see this animation
you could just do a sigma 6 version of lady jay based on the other characters?? I mean based omn the designs we know it shouldn't be too terribly much harder to come up with something?
personally I liked all the female characters on Gi Joe but I always liked Zarana a bit more....I have a thing for punks and goths lol
I want to see your cosplay
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e i have a deviant art page and i’m trying to get my youtube channel going
One thing I will applaud with this series, character design. Everyone, with the exception of one or two, looked amazing.
Do a video on Renegades. I F'ing loved Renegades!
I second the motion!
Renegades was the shit, until the final season that is...
Renegards is probably my favorite of all the cartoon versions.
Renegades was really good like Transformers Prime
@@iron-thorne It only had the one season.
The main problem was introducing kids to project management best practices via a toy line…
Every time I've been in a corporate meeting and Six Sigma comes up, I have to resist making a GI Joe reference because I know absolutely nobody will get it.
@@iwasakikoji6969
My hope is like with most things there's always that one person who totally gets it and you've made a friend for life.
We'll all be doomed if they try to make Agile Joe and the sinister new villain, Scrum Master.
@@Belgandtrigging PTSD in everyone who was unfortunate to work with shitty Project Managers and Management that knew the buzz words but no idea wtf Scrum and Agile actually are.
“We’re only a reboot away from the next reboot” is a very telling statement on the day they announce the next reboot with the Transformers and GI Joe movie.
My favorite part of the cartoon was the crazy voice direction. Scarlett's accent was so bad that you couldn't tell if she was supposed to be Southern or Australian!
I missed all of the figures, they were long gone by the time I learned about the show. Too bad, the toys look pretty cool.
A little off topic, but CGI Duke from "Valor vs Venom" kind of reminds me of Chip Hazard from "Small Soldiers"
So like zoids , thundercats, gi joe it keeps rebooting but it struggling to find it's foot holding in the west .... Sadness but a hidden gem in the GI Joe universe of tv shows ❤❤❤ and knowing is half the Battle
Wait... Zoids had a reboot? I only know of zoids from their mid 2000's version.
Man I will never forget the 2011 thunder cats series. So good.
@@phabiorules yes and zoids wild on Netflix usa years ago in 2020 though now delisted in from Netflix in 2022 due to their ad tier without telling their japan partners… sadness but that’s life with cancelled shows “looks at Yugioh GX , 5Ds , Megaman nt Warrior and doraemon 2005”
The best reboots since the 80’s has been Resolute and Renegades. Resolute was freaking amazing and Renegades was good also. I’d love to see a video on both of those.
Resolute was awesome, I remember thinking that's what Metal Gear would look like as an anime.
renegades was a series I caught the full run of - meaning I kept coming back. was good, but they didn't have a base/were on the run (if I remember). no gear or vehicle(s) either..
I call bullshit. And I know a lot of that.
Notice how *none* of the G.I.JOE cartoon reboots worked? That's because the first was the exact right thing, at the exact right time. It had a quality that could not be reproduced. 1980s America was riding a wave of Jingoist Cold War-era patriotism and the original G.I.JOE series was "America *FUCK* yeah!" in cartoon form.
agreed.
i loved every second.
good or bad, no generation will experience childhood the same way again.
you just need to find the right combo...
sadly renegades worked but we're dealing with a company primarly bent on seling toys so when the show succeeds but the toys fail they kill the show....
when the show fails and the tory fail they kill everything and no lessons are learned
as I've pointed out this is hardly the worst fate we could get, it could be a games IP on the live service route or a dead woke comics series...oh wait, IDW? eesh
it could be a series of really bad shows and movies....oh wait lol
well to be fair on the last one that's not my real intent, sigma & renegades are a decent and great show but I mean it could be handed over to netflix to be wokified which is an option....
I think the fans will work things out in that the true fans won't bother themselves with bad shows....most haven't bothered themselves with the good shows lol
the reason i like Sigma is well I also like anime so the use of that style doesn't bother me...eh
@@judgedrekk2981 Renegades had the misfortune of being among the MLP casualties. It, Transformers Prime, and all the other revival shows in that group on what used to be "The Hub" were sacrificed so MLP could get as many seasons as possible.
@@SomeOrangeCatCitation needed
Same with the Transformers!
Not to be confused with 6 Sigma, another US / Japan collaboration that the manufacturing industry is undoubtedly familiar with.
While the character designs were good, the lack of success for the figure line was likely due to the deviation from the 3 3/4" standard. The Sigma 6 series turned the anime up a bit too much I think, but they dialed it back just a touch for Resolute - which in my opinion is peak modern GI Joe.
Every time I see Sigma 6 I think of it's industry process related term 'cousin' 😄
Every time I see Sigma 6 I think of it's industry process related term 'cousin' 😄
Eh I liked the show but I stopped playing with toys. I was more into Video games by the time I was 14 - 17. The biggest issue is that video games came to take the lunch money of action figures. I collect now as an adult but back then Why play with a Duke when I could basically be Duke in COD? Same with He-man, TMNT and The Thundercats reboot( my brother was still a bit younger and got the toys). I was locked it on a weekly basis but I didn't feel compelled to buy toys. I was also old enough to know the video game tie ins were trash(not my brother so I would always be playing the TMNT games that came out on XBOX with him).
Today's kids also find different things cool. I tried showing my Nephew the 80s TMNT, Transformers , Gi Joe and he goes meh( he did love him some trucks though). The 80s and 90s were a different time in child marketing. Even me as someone born in the 90s look at the aesthetic of 80s figures and say that does not look cool at all(looking at the anatomy of He-man figures specifically)
@@lewisgraham4174 Why be Duke in CoD when you can be Duke in real life? 2A all day. Get a Glock 17 or somethin' and hit the range.
@@Shin_LonaLOL I live in NYC not so simple haha.
The Helldivers 2 mania is going to lead to the G.I. JOE reboot we always wanted getting greenlit.
I don't think Hasbro would be willing to do any of the satire though so I'm not sure it can possibly be good. But I also have no brand attachment to this video except secret galaxy so maybe not.
GI Joe Resolute was my favorite modern reboot. That would make an awesome video.
I love Sigma 6... HEAR ME OUT. If you're falling asleep, or working and you just want positive background noise, the Sigma 6 show is PERFECTION. There's really no space between people yelling stuff. No one talks, everyone is shouting. There's no scenes where it's just lasers and sound effects or music like 80's GI Joe.
It's just good guys on a team, yelling affirmative, positive shit at each other. It can all be summed up as "OH MAN, HERE'S A NEW PROBLEM - TIME TO BUCK UP, MAKE A PLAN AND KICK ASS". It's never a bummer, it's just "positive go-getter" attitude all the time.
And I love it. I treat that show like mood music.
Juxtapose that against "GI Joe Resolute" ( which I also love ), but that movie is going for "harsh, gritty and mean" the whole time. Everyone in the movie has a bad attitude 100% of the time, and the Joes are always being A-holes to each other. Just say'n.
G.I. JOE SIGMA 6 has seriously lacking Porkchop Sandwiches.
The vehicles were awesome, the figures should have been at least as good as Mask figures. The sigma 6 Firebat airplane would have been amazing as a 3 3/4 toy.
I guess X-Men the animated series is a 90’s show, but I think X-Men ‘97 is the shining example of a return to a franchise that capitalizes on nostalgia and tries to advance the narrative for a new and old audience.
I was not a fan of the scale changes, but I really did like the design of the characters and vehicles. I felt that it was about time Hasbro did something different yet familiar and I felt Sigma 6 did that in spades. I have always loved GI Joe, yet I've always been a huge Sci Fi fan, so the look and feel of Sigma 6 played right into my hands except for the stupid issue of scaling. It frustrated me, yet my wallet was happy.
Despite the scale, I still couldn't help buying a couple of the 8" figures. Sigma 6, IMHO, gave us the coolest versions of both Snake Eyes and Firefly. I had to get those two. The 2.5" scale was more appealing to me for the vehicles. I hated how the figures were mostly static. I did buy some of the vehicles, but mainly after the show had been cancelled, and the toys went on clearance.
With all of this talk about the scale, I believe that is what truly put the nail in the coffin for this reboot. Most toys for kids are purchased or allowed to be purchased by the parents/adults. I believe the scale changes made it alien to the actual people who would purchase the toys. Not being 3-3/4" or even 12" turned everyone off. Parents probably connected more with the Transformers at the time and would convince their kids to get those instead. But that is my theory.
I think the only reason why the current 6" GI Joe are doing somewhat okay is because the figures retain the nostalgia of the 80s and early 90s, but with a modern twist. I can't bring myself to buy them now, because I can't stand the scale and they are too darn expensive.
Gi joe multiverse would be fun crossover. Could even bring in the old 50s version
Man, I loved Sigma 6. I was a TF and TMNT kid, Joe never really clicked with me so this was the first version I really got into.
Still an amazing toyline. I hope they start bringing some of these character designs into Classifieds, especially Long Rang. I loved his toy
I didn't enjoy this version of GI Joe.
Now that I am much older and have experienced NUMEROUS reboots, reimaginings, and restarted franchises (live-action, animated, and gaming) I can appreciate that Sigma 6 a little more for its uniqueness.
I still don't like the show. I just dislike it less.
Maturity Achievement... UNLOCKED
I still remember being on a message board when we heard “GI Joe anime” and then realizing what we were getting wasn’t going to be on Toonami or the like. It was especially weird since it was the same time Devil’s Due relaunched the Joe comic, so being overly naive we thought “that, but anime” which sounds like it would be awesome on Toonami after G Gundam.
We were not so lucky.
Hasn't joe always been a Saturday morning affair though?
@@bluebaron6858 The comics have always steered older, going back to the Marvel days.
I do remember kinda digging what I saw of that series, but definitely sounded like it wound up having a similar fate to the 2011 thundercats reboot, which I also loved.
I remember getting mad this didn’t get more love. Back then tho we were not encouraged to hold on to our childhood favorites like we are now
"how dare they turn GI joe into an anime?!" Is what I sadly saw in some circles
same thing happened to renegades....
truth is I think Sigma did okay but the toys never sold....if the toys sold more then the show woulda lasted....
remember, the reason the shows keep getting cancelled is cus this is a toy company trying to sell toys....
but this is a better situation to have cus if it was anything else it's be worse off
games, overmonetized live service like Destiny
comics, DEAD! woke trash, look at IDW? we've been down that road
movies/TV depending on the network stored in the vault, bad movies/shows or another being utterly destroyed [Duke & roadblock are gay for each other for example]
a company wasting their money on new show ideas doesn't really hurt things as much, we still have the 80's?
The trick to good reboots is... good writing. When we saw these franchises as kids that wasn't very important because children are not that discerning, and we were limited to what was on certain channels at certain times. But even by the time of Sigma 6 most Americans had cable to give more options, and now with streaming that's even more true, so we need plots and characters that we can get invested in and will actively seek out. That's one of the reasons almost every time companies try reboots that are more kid-friendly and less serious they fail terribly, and the same goes for reboots that don't grow but just use a gimmick like in space, in the future, in the past, in a computer, etc..
I was at a convention some time ago where, one of the dub voice actors Tom Wayland was talking about how excited he was to be doing voicework for a G. I Joe cartoon, as he was a fan, but was disappointed he had to deliver typical anime dub dialogue for his character, Storm Shadow. I blame this on 4Kids just trying too hard to get another successful franchise like TMNT and Yu-Gi-Oh, since they just lost the rights to Pokemon. Plus, even if it was made for the North American/Western market in mind, there were several Japanese Transformers series by then, and it was the first and only attempt at a Japanese G.I. Joe series. I don't know how popular that franchise was in Japan, but far from the embrace of Transformers. That's for sure. Also, Marc Thompson was the voice of Destro and Cobra Commander for this series. Years later, he'd be the voice of Megatron in Transformers Cyberverse. Strange that he wasn't Starscream.
Im surprised he would say that since there is no Japanese version at all correct? Yet they still dubbed and didn't do pre lay for this show?
@@bluebaron6858 I honestly don't know if there was a Japanese version of the show, or at least one that aired. There were 2 other cases of anime companies making new seasons of shows for 4Kids. Sonic X's third season was made in Japanese and all the way back when Hulu was free, they had the original Japanese version of that season alongside the dub, but apparently it did not air on Japanese television. There was also the case of Ultimate Muscle where 4Kids funded the Choujin Olympics arc, as the original series wasn't popular in Japan and ended on a filler arc. Those new episodes did air in Japan, but split off into two seasons and aired years after each other on a death slot. So they did air that one, but it wasn't popular.
Holy sh** a Suikoden moment! Mind blowing. You’ve earned my forever loyalty w this one, Secret Galaxy
When I worked a corpo job we all had to go to sigma six training to become black belts or something like that
I remember that corporate training. Too green a hire to try out for it and a round of layoffs ended that daydream.
Six Sigma certification. It's available to me at work, but I don't care enough.
I have been watching every era of GI Joe with my 7 yr old and he loves them all. Sigma Six, Renegades, and Resolute were new to me, but I enjoy them in their own way. I am also so happy my mother saved all my of 1980s action figures which I have rebuilt and he takes them with him everywhere. Such a (fun) trip.
It should be mentioned that Sigma 6 also sorta tied into the "Direct to Consumer" continuation of the 3.75" line that followed Valor vs Venom (working title was something like "Robot Rebellion"). Some of those vehicles and figures (Ice Sabre, BAT) seen in the show were available in the DTC line...
I keep thinking "is this the one Warren Ellis wrote that was actually pretty good?" and IT KEEPS BEING SOMETHING ELSE! How many spin-offs does this toyline have?!
Great vid! I really liked Sigma 6 and agree with you would love to see these design in the Classified series.
Or: "The Transformers Unicron Trilogy: GI Joe Edition".
Gonzo only animated Transformers Cybertron and they thery were hapy to do takes on American properties they did the Witchblade anime and S1 of Strike Witches.
@@JeffreyPiattOh yeah. The second Witchblade show. I forgot that was even a thing.
Unicron Trilogy ended up better than Sigma 6 for the most part though, mostly because 4kids wasn't involved and the Japanese took the story material more seriously than before.
Grew up in the 80's so obviously had loads of the OG GI JOE figures and toys (not easy to aquire since I lived in Greece and initially had to rely on friends at the American bases there and distant relatives in the USA). Later once I'd 'grown up' and years after I'd finished my Bsc in Product Design I started collecting all the Sigma Six figures and vehicles and I still own them 20 years later! I just love their design in form and function, it's a shame they never did a Baroness or Scarlet etc.. I think I own every version of each SS figure made and quite a few duplicates too. All the OG stuff was sold in the early 90's to fund building a custom BMX.
Please do videos on Jackie Chan Adventures, Megaman the animated series, Ozzy & Drix, & Max Steel
What made Original Transformers and G.I.JOE: A Real American Hero so great and awesome was the first few releases of the toy and shows we're most grounded in current technology and vehicles with a small amount of possible future tech mixed in.
That is what has been lacking ever since is everyone wants to remove the grounding and turn the future tech up to 11 on a scale of 1 to 10. The funny thing is being creative within a set of limitations tends to creations that seem to last longer. When the limitations are removed then we quickly get the turbo stupid and that rarely lasts for any period of time.
Ah, the "current technology and vehicles" G1 Transformers... just the small amount of possible future tech of giant shape-shifting mechanoid aliens in a centuries long interplanetary war... ;)
@beipiaosaurus - Yeah, way to miss the point of they looked like regular trucks, cars, planes, boom boxes, cassette tapes.... etc., that transformed into sentient robots aliens. But being and they are sentient robots that have evolved without organic creatures do they really count as technology or simply a radically different species being as they are metal based instead of carbon/organic based?
Honestly, maybe Secret Galaxy should cover G.I. Joe Renegade one single season show where G.I. Joe goes the A-Team route.
I'm fairly certain the main problem with gi joe Is no matter what they do to refresh it it's going to still be associated with the us military, which is why the toy line in the modern age has had a tough sell.
DUDE, yall's cut-ins are the best! I lost it at the hang glider announcement reaction!
funny enough studio Gonzo animated both Transformers Cybertron and G.I.Joe Sigma 6 thus missed opportunity for another crossover in animation form.
Sigma 6 was pretty cool IMHO. The cartoon was meh, but the figures were awesome, especially the packaging that turned into a locker for their accessories.
Ah yes, Sigma 6… that was indeed a thing that happened 🙂
[Pulls blankets back over head until _Resolute_ video drops]
Is GI JOE a franchise grounded in military reality, as typified by much of the 1982-1984 toy line and the Marvel comics written by Vietnam combat vet Larry Hama? Or is it Naruto-running ninjas and robot dinosaurs and sharks with lasers?
Yes
Zartan, hair or hood? Watching old episodes most of the time it's animated as hair but it's clearly a hood in comics and toys.
Loved the series and have Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow figures
This is what introduced me to G.I. Joe. It sucks that it was a failure.
You liked this?
@@bluebaron6858 I did. Problem?
@@AngelPerez-tu1nk just curious why you like it
@@bluebaron6858 Well, first media bias I guess. Didn't know anything about G.I. Joe before hand.
I only saw a few Sigma 6 episodes when it came out. I remember the action figures. I thought Hasbro was taking a page out of Hideo Kojima with the designs of the armor as it looked like some MGS2 stuff. I did like the designs, Lt. Stone, Tunnel Rat, and High Tech were my favorite. I would love to see this in some form to the Classified, same with the designs from Renegades.
Ah Gi Joe Sigma 6. My first introduction to the franchise.
Despite it flaws, I have fond memories with the anime.
Could you please do a video for Gundam Seed? The Gundam Seed Freedom movie hits US theatres on May 7th. So, it would both be cool and relevant. The Big O would be a good contender for a video as well.
Maybe we will get an edgy G.I Joe anime in the future. 😁
Cool video, guys! S6 had a great toy line, but it wasn't without its flaws. The 8 inch figures were great with all the articulation, accessories, and cloth clothes one could want. The way they were packaged practically screamed "buy me" when they were hanging on the pegs. The two inch companion scale is where a lot of the trouble arose. The figures were lacking in articulation and many were fused to base stands, making them incompatible with the vehicles. Additionally, many of the vehicles were simply retools of the 3 3/4 scale ones from previous lines, so the 2 inch figures tended to rattle around in them like little kids messing around in their parents camper. There were some awesome samples, like the Dragonhawk, but also a lot of failures like the ROCC.
The show was kind of goofy at times, but watchable, and was one of those that actually made Cobra Commander appear as a real threat.
For years, this was my GI Joe fix until Classified brought the Yo Joe magic back into the world. I'll always have a soft spot for S6. Heck, to this day I still use S6 Duke's line : "Note to self- don't try that again!"
Of course they screamed "buy me", they even included a blinking LED in the package that was only there to catch your eye on the shelves! Actually one of my favorite aspects of the toys is the packaging: the plastic top and bottom are able to snap together and form a little footlocker for the figure's accessories to store in. That's just clever!
This was my GI Joe. I had a ton of the toys, and remember really loving how many accesories they had and how detailed they were.
And now we have the official announcement of a true Transformers & GI Joe crossover movie coming soon. I'm sure we'll all hate it lol.
I hope one day soon you do a video on the 89 series as I’ve been really curious about it.
This show was my introduction to the franchise. Suck it got canceled.
The Delta 6 suits in the GI Joe movie are a reference to this series.
The only incarnations of GI Joe I ever cared about were certain runs of the comics (specifically the original Larry Hama stuff), GI Joe Extreme, SIGMA 6, & Renegades.
Also, Sigma 6 is the ONLY time in the entire Franchise where Cobra Commander was actually cool and intimidating.
As an anime guy I watched it years after it aired. I has some weird decisions and I cant figure out if it would have been better as more anime with a silly side or more serious.
My 2 favorite characters in GI Joe were in the show (Baroness and Jinx).....neither got a figure.
A comic series about the stuff that didn't make it into the 87 GIJoe film (deleted scenes, side plots, etc.) needs to be written.
Sigma 6 was underrated, I think it was unfortunate it never got more attention
Good stuff! Can't wait until you do Renegades, which is either the next reboot or the previous one, I can't remember anymore. I actually enjoyed that one!
I wish to aay something about Sigma 6. The DIC fiasco was so hard to get through, that the idea that anyone was at least trying to better, was much needed relief.
Besides the original, I love this version of gi joe.
Tunnel rat was my favorite character!!
It’s no G.I. Joe Extreme but it’ll do I guess.
EXTREEEEEEEEEEEEME!
I never even heard of this before. The one I recall that I did mostly enjoy was GI Joe Renegades though it was a bit heavy handed.
My boys loved G.I. Joe when the anniversary action figures. Hayden Liked Snake Eyes, Hunter liked Storm Shadow he swore up and down that he was a good guy.
Never even heard of this show, but then again I was in college at the time. From the clips I see here it looks like the 2003 animation style of Masters of the Universe and honestly looks pretty awesome. Love some of the new looks for the characters and man would I have loved to get my hands on an 8" Snake Eyes figure to put on my shelf. I'd love a Skarlet figure too...but apparently they never made one. Sad. I have new like 9" or something figures of He-man and Skeletor that I love.
The only Scarlet figure in the line was vehicle scale, and in only one toy package with the helicopter.
Man, I was maaaad about that.
I watched this in college and I was learning about the management concept of Six Sigma at the same time
I wonder if this started as a Six Sigma project
I'm looking forward to watching the complete show.
The best part of this show was the introduction of the Rhino. I loved being able to finally get it in 3.75 scale as I believe a Target exclusive for one of the live action movies.
I hope you guys do the history of The Silver Surfer animated series. I remember loving it, but I also vaguely remember them messing with the time slot, so I missed a bunch of episodes. Definitely deserved more seasons like X-Men and Spider-Man got.
Loved the series for what it was. It could have fit nicely with TRANSFORMERS ENERGON or TRANSFORMERS ARMADA. It's still nowhere as impactful as G.I. JOE RESOLUTE. But it was a fun G.I. JOE anime styled series.
Both the cartoon & toys were pretty dang awesome!
I'm trying to remember how many years it was from this show which came and went like a fart in the wind to the much better totally awesome GI Joe retaliation. (I think that's what it was called and not the second live-action movie) But the true anime GI Joe we all wanted with all the violence intact that someone who loved the 80s show would want but way better.
They have never and I doubt they ever will make a better version of GI Joe after that. It was short and sweet and freaking awesome.
I feel like Turtles gets the backlash every few years since they reboot so frequently compared to other properties. I saw someone trying to dunk on Mutant Mayhem the other day in an attempt to show their love for Rise and couldn’t help but feel like time is a flat circle.
I feel like I don’t see it as much in transformers, but that might be because they’ve had to survive so many drastic shifts that RUINED FOREVER is a wiki page.
I always wanted to watch it as a kid but I never knew where it was airing. I even had that big helicopter for the 2 inch figures.
Maybe it's because I'm older now, but I'm much more nostalgic for G.I. Joe being marketed towards kids, even if it's not for me who grew up with ARAH. I miss the early 2000s when Joe versus Cobra and the subsequent toy lines were in stores. There were repaints of vintage even o-ring figures in those.
Super Joe and Sigma 6 could play together…
I always loved the designs from this series. I just wished the toys scaled with literally any of the other toys I had at the time.
They should do an X-Men '97 style continuation of the original gi joe toon.
That's kinda what Resolute was. I know I'm int eh minority, but I think Resolute was a bit too gritty. Cartoons don't need to be.
I only remember this show cos it basically Gi Joe but Anime!
I will never not love this show. It is a part of my childhood, half of my gate to anime, and it was just plain fun to watch the supertech in action, giving me my enduring fondness for various combat tropes, especially missile spam.
It was interesting they picked up the plot threads from the two previous direct to DVD animated films including General Hawk recovering from his super mutation
a great awsome cartoon, with the best designed joe vehicules ever but a very bad main toyline that was not compatible with what came before or after. Most vehicules were released afterwards in DTC and they were awsome.
The other problem was the toys they did were not size compatible. With the rest of the G.I. Joe 1/18 scale line that was also out at the time.
They had three vehicle toys that were released that appeared in the cartoon. One being mentioned in the introduction about the first episode of the cartoon. One being a mobile command centre. With the third being the R.H.I.N.O., my personal favourite. A troop carrier with missiles you fire, by pushing the missiles with your figures and a helicopter that appears from within the vehicle. What else can you ask for. 😊
I think a good chunk of the fandom have a *rational* fear of change. Because, when you enjoy something, making that something into a different thing kind defeats the purpose.
Then again, I'm the weirdo who would like Hasbro to unify most the IPs they own into a single line, with different scales/play patterns used to highlight specific IPs.
The credits for this show suggest it was originally produced in Japanese (like its Transformers contemporaries) but to this day, that version has never seen the light of day. It's also been claimed there's a separate dub (maybe a pilot?) featuring the Vancouver voice cast of the DTV CGI movies. Unfortunately, the documentation for that has been lost to time.
I watched most of Sigma 6 when I stumbled across it, but I definitely wasn't a dedicated fan. From my perspective it just disappeared from TV one day, and I never questioned what happened to it until now. The most I ever got into GI Joe were the two "GI Joe vs Cobra" CG movies when they aired on Toonami.
Off topic, but have you done a video about that 3D TERMINATOR 2 show that was around for a short time in the 90's? I'd like to know more about that.