The Failure of GI Joe Extreme: More Like Extreme Disappointment
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Join us as we take a deep dive into the short-lived GI Joe reboot, GI Joe Extreme, a retool that promised to take the iconic action figure line to new heights of excitement and adventure.
Unfortunately, the reality fell far short of the Extreme hype, as fans were left with a lackluster animated series that failed to capture the imagination of viewers following the success of GI Joe: A Real American Hero and GI Joe: The Movie and the even quicker failure of Sgt. Savage and His Screaming Eagles.
We'll explore the show's many shortcomings and examine how these flaws impacted the wider GI Joe toyline. Despite the best efforts of the show's creators, GI Joe Extreme failed to gain traction with audiences, and ultimately served as a cautionary tale about the dangers of trying to reinvent a beloved brand.
So if you're curious about the rise and fall of this ill-fated franchise reboot, or just want to learn more about the history of GI Joe, be sure to check out "The Failure of GI Joe Extreme: More Like Extreme Disappointment"!
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I swear. For a certain time in the 90's, it seemed that a sure sign that a series was going to fail or was running out of ideas when that "X-Treme" word showed up on the title. That damn word got stamped on almost everything it seemed.
I dunno, maybe its the exception that proves the rule, but the Extreme Ghostbusters was, in my opinion, very good.
Don't forget ECW (extreme championship wrestling)
@@marioaustin9312 They started it all. Dammed Paul Haymen !
What i think is , that many older Franchises aint fitting for the XTREME Treatment.
This approach is actually bonded by making new franchises instead making old ones look "Up to Date" .
Some old franchise can work perfectly with this XTREME make-over while others go absolutly into wrong direction .
Remember the XTREME Looney toons cartoon that came and went faster than oldschool speedy gonzales ? Yeah , i almot forgot it and nobody asked for it , except a rando like me on this comment-section about XTREME and GI-joe .
The 90s, everythjng went Extreme, Xtreme or with an X or an X in front of it. Lol.
Ahh yes, the "Extreme" era of cartoons. Back when the shading on characters was extremely emphasized and they had to have shoulder pads. You could tell that comic artists such as Jim Lee and Todd McFarland made a major impact during the early to mid 90s.
I miss that era, i'll gladly take that over ugly rancid trash like Teen Titans Go and Thundercats Roar, stuff like WILDCATS and this show might not have been the most deep but they had pretty striking visuals, nowadays it feels like kids animated shows have really taken a step back in animation quality and it feels like only adult animated shows really have stand-out 2-D animation anymore.
@@jacksonteller3973completely agree
Extreme Dinosaurs
@RBG! Wussup?
A few years back, a younger friend mentioned how he didn't like the retro look of GI Joe Renegades. I said "Oh, you'd prefer something a little more... Extreme?" and linked the opening to GI Joe Extreme. His response: "What the hell was that?!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMGDAO. I can literally picture his young face as he sees the animation and hears the EXTREMMMMMMME for the first time. crying 😂
I thought that opening was fucking badass
I do find it funny that Renegades was refer to as retro and the solution then is 90s Extreme Era. [>
You know it's extreme when the theme song says extreme back to back.
GI Joe extreme! EXTREME!
you mean, EXTREEEEEEEEEME!!!!!
@@brianjl7477 EXTREEEEEEME.
The DIC show had a better intro than this one
@@sporkwarrior9950 Yeah, the intro wasn't that good. The show was fine though - nothing too special, but decent - if I recall correctly anyway. It was better than the DIC show for the most part.
Dan's buffness had me for about a second
Made me swoon lol 😉
I ONLY just noticed after reading this 😂 I just thought he was secretly yoked
I thought it was real too. I was confused and impressed until the elbow seam came into shot.
That doesn't work for me, *BROTHER*
@@JazGalaxy lmao he looks like he's wearing a Hulk Hogan bodysuit
After seeing their appearance in the show and then Dan started talking about comics, I had a feeling Rob Liefeld's name was going to come up as the responsible party.
The show has his style all over it. And that's not a compliment.
@@alucard624 He didn't create every 90s antihero character, but he created and popularized the idea of them and that's bad enough.
@@Macrocheniaeah i hate Rob Liefeld and his narrow-minded , bad artistic , really incompetent style of "Creativity" but i think buff badass guys isnt bad . He dragged this approach through the dirt and exploited it with his bad comics.
Rob Liefeld was pushed to be a wannabe-rockstar in Comics and he took that approach while popularized bad stuff . Give Rob Liefeld all the fault but not the creative concepts that could be made waaaayyyy much better by much more competent artists and writers. Maybe oversaturation of a trend that is actually enjoyed in small doses but bad overall ? No . Definitly not by a mile .
@@Snyperwolf91 The one good thing Rob did is that he was instrumental in pushing comic book companies to paying their artists better. I've got to give him respect for that.
As someone who watches Atop the Fourth Wall, I’m more than familiar with Liefeld and his work. I even had this idea that maybe someone should do a comic with a more cleaner art style but then have a nightmare/dream sequence utilizing Liefeld’s art style. I think that would be a more effective use of that kind of art style.
I never had any of the Extreme figures as a kid, but I enjoyed watching the cartoon. It always made me wish they were still airing the original Joe cartoon.
Ah yes, the "Early Image Comic" Joes...what a time. I had The SKAR leader toy. I used him and random other figures to be bad guys for my DBZ toys. Back then you could really only get them at specialty import shops so I could only afford a few real ones.
I got that toy for Christmas when I was six. I later got the one where he has the black beret.
Wow I used to do the same thing lol.
The “mosh pit of extremity” is my favorite phrase, thank you Dan!
I remember this show. It was interesting seeing a beloved 80s cartoon try to transition into the 90s.
it work with Beast Wars
the problem with this GI Joe show was it tried to be X
It was always funny to see companies try to lean into the whole *"extreme"* aesthetic/ trend. Usually it didn't work out great. Rarely it did, usually it didn't.
@@JohnDoe-wq5eu I more compare Gi Joe Extreme to more like Jim Lee WILDC.A.T.S.
Voltron tried it after this one
@@freddyvidz the reason why Voltron works was because they a great Team of Dreamworks and Studio MIR (LEGEND OF KORRA)
I love seeing the fun that Dan and Producer Greg have behind the scenes!
Seriously, what was up with Rob Liefield's obsession with body straps and pouches? 🤷😂
He was procrastinating because he didn’t want to get to the feet
Or human shapes that were grounded in -reality- geometry
_[Captain America, crying, wheezing, and sputtering, struggling to hold body up under throbbing, disproportionate mass]:_ i am… not an ani-animal… pl-please kill me
@@RobCamp-rmc_0 to be fair a lot of animators don't like doing feet so it's not unique to Rob at all, the Simpsons animators mentioned how difficult it was to animate feet so they avoided it whenever they could, and Liefeld has actually drawn feet before, just not that often.
@@RobCamp-rmc_0 honestly I liked Liefeld's take on Captain America
Also: square guns
This was the G.I. Joe that was out when I was a kid...which probably explains why I didn't become a fan of G.I. Joe until Resolute!
I grew up with the 80s Joe and I was surprised how good Resolute was
I remember coming home from school in the 80s watching G.I. Joe. Always like the intros.
So cobra is dead in this future.
Been defeated by the joes.
So cobra commander is probably dead
Destro dead and baroness
Among other cobra guys.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 Don't be so XtreemeeEE. They probably were funding the whole Skar deal from the shadows.
That tee shirt, issue 34. Loved the dogfight between the two. And the respect they showed each other at the end was awesome.
Dan, you needed more than words to take that ending to it's hole hearted extreme to stop the world.
Nuno and Gary are crying right now.
I remember back in the 90's if you want to bring back a show/franchise you either make them kids or make them EXTREME!!!
Or repaint it some Neon Camo patterns.
There was a hilarious robot chicken sketch about GI Joe extreme and it is pure gold😂😂😂😂
Do you have the link to it?
My grandmother gave me a bunch of the extreme figures for Christmas. I didn't know what to think. I wanted the classic 3.75 oring figs so badly. I couldn't hide my disappointment. My grandmother was so gracious and returned them. I was just a bit young for the heydey of the classic little joes and my mother never wanted me to have 'army' toys...
I’ve spent the last 25 years thinking Vor-Tech was made up in my mind 😢 thanks for this!
I remember reading somewhere that Vor-Tech was supposed to be the sequel to M.A.S.K. I used to really like M.A.S.K. toys.
Love the "Shakedown" T-shirt. My favorite comic I ever owned. Read it some many times the cover fell off and I had to staple it back together.
This fits right in with Extreme Ghostbusters and for late night a little Extreme Championship Wrestling.
Totally Awesome 😄👍
ECW!
Oh my Gaaaaawd!!!!!!
Totally EXTREME!
Don't forget Extreme Dinosaurs!
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this, I was the demographic for this and it totally worked I had some figures and my older brothers who grew up with the 80s show were like what is this crap?? They may have been right…
I've found renewed interest in GI Joe Extreme because of a personal project I'm working on. I found a way to integrate Extreme into the mainline Joe team, as a Special Operations unit. 3rd Strike Team Echo, derisively called "GI Joe Extreme" because they seem to be cursed to find themselves in way over their heads more often than not. I'm still trying to flesh everything else out.
Funny She Ra Princess of Powers was an Sucess and He man got an anime and a 3D Seires why not A Reboot of GI Joe Maybe Something Adult or Serious to Tackle topics like they did with GI Joe Renegades 2010 ❤
Not watching He man or She Ra ever again. 80's music composers only make stuff for mouthbreathers
Because they're too busy remaking Transformers for a hundredth time.
They kind of did that with GI Joe: Resolute.
@@BlasterBand You don't know what I mean by that
@@BlasterBand Yeah In the Renegades Series Corba Instead of a terriorst Group then are a Multi Billionaire Dollar Corporation that Control everything Like OmiCorp from Robocop or Weyland Yutani from the Alien Franchise
It's funny how much the development of GI Joe Extreme mirrors the development of Beast Wars. Both were built as reboots after their preceding 90s toylines underperformed, and Hasbro sent toy development for both over to Kenner. The difference being that Beast Wars was enough of a success that Hasbro took back toy development after 2 years.
Also because gi joe extreme followed the fads of the time trying to be like the other "X-TREME" cartoons and comics of the time while transformers beast wars did it's own thing but kept the core themes of transformers granted that only happened because the transformers G2 comics came out long before the beast wars did soo that's why
There was another “extreme” G.I.Joe cartoon i used to love as a kid. It had a character called heavy duty who was like road block but not roadblock. I always thought that was called g.i.joe extreme “(it definitely felt extreme)
Versions of Heavy Duty were in the ‘90s cartoon by DiC, the Spy Troops and Valor vs Venom CGI movies of the early 2000s, and perhaps most prominently in the GI Joe: Sigma 6 cartoon.
man $2.99 for an action figure! I miss those days 😅😂😊
I loved the character designs for this show. I loved the high impact ink shadows!
*Extreme* impact ink shadows!
When even your shadows tend to be into Xtremity and beyond !
Better watch out for the Shadow with a gun or your Life will be short .
@@Snyperwolf91 Truth to the phrase "scared of my own shadow!" Machine gunning that B wherever she falls!! Because we're EXXXXXTREME!!
A lot of nineties toons had that thick linework and shadows look. I really liked it as well.
I was kind of into this line with its clip on armor and foam missiles. Sgt savages detonator Cannon has a clever function where the figure smashes a big button with its fist as the missile fires. Now that's extreme.
As someone who was a huge fan of GI Joe as a kid and for whom GI Joe Extreme hit just around the tail end of my "playing with action figures" days, the problem is that the toys themselves just sucked compared to the awesomeness that was ARAH. They tried to fix something that wasn't broken.
I definitely remember the power block but i cant decide if i have a vague memory of this or not. The animation style just makes me think of Spider-man Unlimited more than anything
I remember the cartoon and I also had Sgt Savage along with the VHS, thanks Dan for the memories
Oh man how I loved Rob Liefeld's art in the 90s. Those grotesquely buff and muscular Hulk-sized characters covered in belts and straps duel-wielding firearms that looked like they came from Cybertron. lol Just as my mind automatically goes to the classic Jim Lee art whenever I hear "X-Men" it goes the same for X-Force and Liefeld's art. Youngblood was a good comic series once he got that going on Image. I remember going through hell to save up and snail-mail off for my big azz MacFarlane Toys Badrock figure that I still have to this day from back in like '95 I think. I was a super fan of all those guys that started Image back in the day, I loved Spawn, the Maxx, Savage Dragon, ShadowHawk, Cyberforce, Gen 13, Pitt, WildCATS, Wetworks, and on and on. Good times. 🙂
Almost 8 minutes into the video he finally gets to the subject at hand lol. I'm a G.I. Joe lifer since the mid 80s and can appreciate educating people who didn't live it.
Kids today don't understand the silliness that was the '90s and how everything needed to be EXTREME (or "Xtreme" if you're really edgy).
i'll take that over dreck like Teen Titans Go.
2000s are better
This looks like all of Rob Liefeld's 90s comics.
A+ video!
There is so much going beyond behind the scenes for those shows.
The 80s G.I. Joe would have been a hard act to follow.
Thanks for this one.
G. I. Joe Extreme may not be as well regarded as the Marvel/Sunbow 1980s cartoon, but it worked best as a comic series as presented by Dark Horse (Frank Miller did the cover for #1). John Clancy seemed a nod to techno thriller writer Tom Clancy. Mayday and Black Dragon seemed influenced by Scarlett and Snake-Eyes and the other characters such as Frieght, Iron Klaw and Sgt. Savage were quite good. The cartoon was simply not as well executed.
“Mosh Pit of Extremity” is going _right_ on my list of ultra-cool potential band names 🤘😎
Edit: 7:10 Lol, “grab a can of *Splode!”* 😆
This Channel is most rad!! Keep up the extreme work!!
How Rob Liefeld still gets work has always baffled me.
Black shadows. Huge muscles. Big guns. Tigertron’s voice actor. Captain N’s voice actor, Matt Hill. The 90s were EXTREME… and hilarious.
The odds are a million to one: “AND THAT’S THE WAY WE LIKE IT!” 😆
Don't Forget...
Bad Girls!!
Everything about this series screamed hardKore 90s in the most eXtreme possible way.
I saw the very end of the 3.75 inch line (I actually had a fair amount of the licensed Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat figures too). I remember when Sgt. Savage came out, the figure came with a VHS tape, a short cartoon telling Savage's origins. It was kinda cool, despite the larger size of the Sgt. Savage line it still had a lot of the same articulation as the 3.75 figures. But Sgt. Savage was gone just as fast as it came, and then they moved on to GI JOE: EXTREME. I really didn't care for the DRASTIC shift in aesthetic or the style of the EXTREME figures, particularly because they didn't have as much articulation. I also had trouble becoming interested in the new characters -- not that GI JOE was ever known for nuanced storytelling or strong character development-- I just wasn't used to the new characters, I just liked the old ones because I had spent years with them on their adventures and missions. I guess I just sorta missed them, pretty much that simple.
idk but after watching some episodes I liked the edginess and "liefeld" feel of the show, its so funny to me for the wrong reasons, I honestly loved it
All things considered, I’m looking forward to seeing some “EXTREME” love in the Classified line someday.
This episode was …. Extremely cool as that 90s MTN dew !
Dan looking Extreme Shredded all of a sudden
"Rob Liefeld, patron saint of pouches and blades, tactical straps and faces that look like this (extreme anger from Dan)" that pretty much sums up my comic reading child hood.
Didn't know about this. Glad I missed it. Give me my 80's Joes anytime.
Super subtle but love the GoodtimeswithScar reference. So when is the upcoming episode about the history of Hermitcraft coming?
Just saw Dan’s t-shirt. That’s easily my favorite panel form one of the best Joes comics. Sweet.
Great issue. I always loved the vehicle duels. Larry Hama was great.
@@stevenhenry5267 Agreed.
The Extreme spirit of the 90s takes more than words
Thanks for the pictures. I needed... More Than Words
When I first saw the figures I thought "they looked lame" but then I realized something about them... I had like miniature bootleg versions of them as a kid. AND like, they were pretty high quality for bootlegs as well. BUT I also noticed there were lower quality versions as well. Also, despite how I feel about the figures, is it bad that I dig the art direction of the animated show?
Love this channel ! I usually catch as soon as they come out but it’s been a busy week for content in the HD world kudos to Dan and the crew
It would take More Than Words to describe how much I loved this video.
When I'm President, I'll make sure everyone is watching Secret Galaxy. Or they can Get the Funk Out.
@@stujm84 Mr. President, as your advisor, I recommend a federally mandated extra day off work, for the treasury-funded Blow The Roof Off™.
EXCELLENT T-shirt this time Dan, I had that issue of GIJOE.
It is an excellent issue.
Holy shit, that shirts amazing. Wow, one of my favorite stand alone Joe comics. Well played sir.
Right! That dog fight was amazing. Fact we still remember this comic shows how good it really was 👍
Now I want that t-shirt 😂
Thank god for Dan! You make my day to day way better.
I was born in 89 and my brother 92. My brothers favorite variant of all of the GI Joe we watched growing up (and we watched literally all the reruns and had the vhs’) was the Sergeant Savage vhs. He passed away from suicide last year at the age of 30 after serving as an infantry marine.
Also as an aside, I got my Snake-Eyes/Storm-Shadow Arashikage forearm tattoo as seen in my display pic when I was a teenager.
I remember after 9/11. I walked into a comic shop and there was a new GI Joe comic with the caption REINSTATED. They all looked fierce pointing guns. Snake Eye. Scarlet Now the time it takes to create a comic means this was happenstance. But boy did that comic fly off the shelves.
Iron Claw reminds me of Death's Head. And from the look of the Extreme cartoon, they remind me of X-Force
All those admissions of failure are heartfelt and “More than Words”
Sargent Savage is actually my inly connection with GI Joe. I got the action figure with the movie in VHS for Christmas ine tear, and begged my folks every year afterwards for his plane.
It was extremely lacking in buckles, belts, and pockets.
Looking forward to GIJoe Renegades. I think it was a lot better than it got credit for. It's also the last GIJoe cartoon. I'm not sure if it can work today in a world market.
Man i was the worst kind of consumer as a kid. I never cared for action figures, all i wanted were some hotwheels and video games. Committing the sin of enjoying the show and not buying the toys
If you haven't done an episode on Image comics, and the independent comics boom of the 90s, I would love to see you do an episode. I remember that whole movement quite fondly, and how it seemed like the upstarts at Image would topple the establishment of DC and Marvel once and for all. But then, if you had asked me back in 92 which character would be bigger 30 years later, Spawn, or Iron Man? I would have sworn on my grandmother's grave that Spawn would be the biggest thing in comics. And to even suggest otherwise would be a colossal joke. Thanks for what had to be your best episode yet! Yooooo Joe! EXTREME!!!!!!!!
Now I need a Extreme toy version of Dan!
I wonder where Dan would rank a figure of himself . . .
Wow...WOW. They just totally ripped off Captain America there lol. Sidenote: See you have been working the biceps bro - nice lol. And Damn - I love the shirt you are rocking. The air combat duel issue of the Marvel GI JOE comic... that's awesome,
Man, I remember a friend having a VHS tape for the pilot of Sgt. Savage... I absolutely loved it when I was a kid.
Did Sgt. Slaughter ever show up and tell him to stop stealing his act?
@@CantankerousDave sadly, no. But that would've made for a great episode
During the 90s everything was bigger, badder, faster, or simply put, more extreme. I called it decade of erring!
Always have had a soft spot for 90s animated content aimed at children - IMHO it was objectively superior to its 80s forerunners as on average 90s animated cartoons had better writing, characterization, & animation quality.
“Extremism in the promotion of action figures is no vice.” - Barry Goldwater, probably.
This video was MORE THAN WORDS could ever say.
I actually liked this show and thought the villain looked pretty radical.
Darker show and really good use of color.
Extreme always makes me think of 90s Mountain Dew and that group of bullies in the 1st Harold and Kumar 😂
Too extreme for its own good
As a child of the 80’s, the main reason GI Joe overtook Star Wars, in toy sales, was the increased level of articulation that line featured. You could do more with the GI Joe line than you could with Star Wars or He Man. Matter of fact, the GI Joe figures made the other action figure lines of the early-mid 80’s look lame by comparison. Like the difference between DVD/Blu Ray and VHS.
I still remember the epic burn Robot Chicken gave G.I.Joe Extreme.
I wasn't the biggest fan of Extreme but I was happy to see the line continue. Young me tried to get into it but I couldn't stick with it.
I also hated that some of the PSAs were word for word copies of the Sunbow ones.
The "GI JOE EXTREME!!" shout is still stuck in my head, even though I watched maybe 2 episodes?
Another great video! Thanks guys!
The issue was the toys. They were bigger then normal gi Joe's. It was odd yes but they should have had cross overs with the og. A stand alone as a new team didn't work as we had the other toys already.
My brother and I had the Sgt. Savage toy and VHS that came with it. Couldn’t even tell you how many times we watched it!
The outtakes at the end were great!
I met a guy at a toy show with a redish beard and noticed there was a Joe that looked like him and asked if it was supposed to be him and he said yes. I believe it because he worked for the toy company.
I was in a sweet spot age-wise in that I remembered watching the 80s GI Joe and was in middle school during the "EXTREME" age of kids tv. GI Joe Extreme, Extreme Dinosaurs, and Extreme Ghostbusters all tried to ride that wave. Of those, I only found Ghostbusters enjoyable and the others were simply left on because they there.
Would love a Classified Iron Klaw.😮
I see that cartoon long ago. Yeah, Radical Extreme! Sergeant Stone is my fave character.
Lova ya guys!!! Keep the awesome content coming
This video was done EXTREMEly well!!!
Great T-shirt. That iconic scene still lives with me since childhood
Love that shirt!!! Marvel GI Joe issue #34. Unfortunately I hated GI Joe Extreme.
Extremely Awesome! Great content. Thanks!
Your commitment to the bit is awesome!!
I liked the show and the toys. I was bummed when it wasn't on anymore. I miss the 90s cartoons and toys. Those were good times.
I ordered the Second Sight last week and I can't wait to see how its going to look.. I have TCM on VHS, DVD, Blu-ray and now I'm eagerly awaiting the premium 4k!!
Oh butts! That's one of my favourite GI Joes!
No, not GI Joe Extreme. Dan's shirt.
Ace vs. Wild Weasel with Lady Jaye and Baroness in the backseats