@@goobertoober95 I want one of those, I have the 5inch fde model and it is hands down my favorite pistol out of everything I've shot. One must have upgrade is the apex trigger. Although it does take some retraining after, double taps were a pretty easy accident at first.
I finally broke down and bought my first ever handgun. I’m 58. This M&P 9 M2.0 was my choice. I really like how it felt in my hand. I’m certain I made a good choice for my first handgun.
@Zack Zack Why're you knocking the guy down? Maybe in his early years he wasn't mentally prepared to own a gun yet. For the record Shia LaBeouf probably wouldn't be such a hot mess if he thinked more about his decisions and didn't "just do it".
Just picked up a M&P9 2.0 Compact , These torture test are a lot more nerve-racking to watch when you actually own the gun! Another great video Tim, Thank you for your service.
No need to be nervous, just keep the gun clean, people actually think that just because a gun doesn't work when you shove a bunch of junk in it then it is not a good gun
Mine is on the way too! Can’t wait. I’ve shot a glock 19 and full size M&p and decided on the compact. I like the weight of it. Feels more secure and weighted down when firing (M&p full size) I have yet to shoot the compact, but based off of shooting the glock I’d say it’s slightly heavier which I like. Has better sights than the glock and a better grip.
@@dannyrbailey thanks for the info. After looking around and watching videos. I think I’m wanting the mp 2.0 subcompact. But so far no luck on finding a subcompact
hell, even bolt guns fail ridiculously easily when you get some mud into the locking lugs. Even something as basic as a musket or arquebus will fail when it gets fouled, or wet
I've been saying this for years. When people say that dumb crap about, "I haven't cleaned this gun in 10,000 rounds!" I just laugh at them. It's the dumbest crap you can do. Lube your gun properly and clean it out after every use when possible. It's not hard and it will ensure the functionality of your weapon into the future.
@@keggerous i have a cheap turkish blank gun (ekol alp) and ofc the quality is kinda terrible and in almost every test i have seen, it had a malfunktion every 2 rounds. But i cleaned it and lubed it well, and it works perfectly now. I hope it wont break untill newyear xD When im old enaugh to buy a real gun i will also always care about it
I think I have been won over by a weapon I absolutely believed in till the first time it failed. The 2.0 has brought back the interest in the M&P series again.
Hey Mac I see so many people complaining or simply just asking for more specific guns but I just wanted to say thanks for this awesome content. I've always found these test so entertaining and interesting and you do a great job at it!
I was shocked he didn't mention the shirt. I used to watch IV8888 fairly often, but ever since I found out what they charge companies to showcase their stuff, it turned me off somehow.
@@GeauxRilla nothing wrong with running a business, I'm a business owner myself. It was just the way they worded the contract, their fees, and how they went about all of it. It may be pennies to these companies and worth it for them regardless, but they seemed like major assholes about all of it.
I noticed that S&W significantly lengthened the forward rails on the 2.0 vs. the original M&P. I wonder if this caused it to be more reliant on proper lubrication to function? Regardless I think the gun did very well in this test. I also really like seeing the behind the scenes after the test to see what it takes to get the pistol back to functioning order.
FTE and FTF were likely magazine induced failures. If you breakdown the magazine, notice the follower. The follower is an anti-tilt follower that prevents rounds from nose-diving and one of the aspects of this useful implementation are the front and back follower protrusions that keep the follower level which also has the magazine follower and rounds moving mechanically upwards from spring like along a track. The dirt and grim fouling up this track movement likely is what causes the failure experienced. Usual TRB (Tap, rack, bang) malfunction drill performed will correct this as shown by Tim. The continued failures is presumably from dirty magazine as only the gun was cleaned off; notice that the magazine wasn't flushed with water like the gun after the elemental testing, none of the mags looks like they were flushed and all of them dirty. This is a common failure trait with magazines with anti-tilt followers and probably more apparent with guns like the older Berettas that either lack the magazine follower anti-tilt characteristic or have looser mechanical tolerances. You can also find this problem inherent with the M/AR platform with these types of followers and exasperated by issues with springs with either too much compression opposing strength like with new springs or too little strength from compression wear, another reason why a lot of those common FTE and FTF problems can be short-term, field-expedient fixed with magazine-based or magazine circulating malfunction drills. Lubrication is a short term field expedient fix until the magazine can be broken down and cleaned as the slide has a more positive movement flowing backwards with higher force either shaking the follower free or ejecting the shot round fast enough with enough force to also have the follower shear free upwards giving more weight to the common credence of well lubricated or having well lubricated firearms like these handguns or rifles like the M/AR platform. Just my opinion, of course, in lieu of proper scientific study.
@@joncampo1627 I own glocks and m&ps I think I prefer my m&ps at the range they shoot flatter and fit my hand better overall. Real joys to shoot. I own my glocks and they are ok they are reliable but nothing crazy but they work either way you go both M&p and glock are great guns and I’d have no problem choosing one or the other
Glock is amazing and all but noone compares to smith amd wesson everything they make is amazing and amazing customer service the m&p 15 sport 2 unbeatable
I’m so happy I bought one of these. 1000+ rounds of Tula without cleaning it and it’s still flawless. Oddly enough it doesn’t seem to carbon foul either
@@booya6437 To be honest budget guns have stepped it up in the past few years. I can understand why some may frown on them but the Taurus G series are giving some higher quality guns a run for their money. Another good example is the Taurus PT92 making Beretta fan’s heads turn. Budget guns might not be the same thing but a close second is what they’re doing. And for that price which to be honest is a factor when it comes to a lot of new gun buyers is a major factor. For the price of a Glock pre COVID-19 $550 you could’ve gotten a Taurus G2C for around $250, good Kydex iwb holster for $30, and $30 for a value box of Remington 9mm 115 jhp and be good to go. And for the remainder of cash you could even take a class or even better pay off some bills.
@@totalnewb123 Nothing wrong with starting cheap but you definitely don’t want to stay there. Like I said, it’s not like you’re buying a TV where you should be sensible with how much you’re spending. If you’re betting your life on it, why not save up a little bit more?
@@booya6437 that could be true and I wouldn’t blame someone for moving on up. But we have to remember some new gun owners might not want to do that nor care to. Nothing wrong with that but on a economically point more affordable firearms means more gun owners. But as time goes on it wouldn’t hurt to get something better.
@@booya6437 that’s just a really dumb comment. There’s several budget guns that are damn good and reliable. Also by your ridiculous theory nobody should have ever bought a Glock when they first came out. They were new and pretty damn cheap. Good God, don’t ever buy anything but a 1911! It’s the only thing that’s expensive enough and been proven!!!
This may sound dumb but in a pinch you can always your own oils to lube the gun. Pretty common in the fishing community to use the oil on your face to lube the spool, if you’re out in the bush you could use your hair or face to oil the rail.
Often overlooked is the extractor channel. That is a major player in hang ups with my findings. Debris can slightly shift the extractor away from full control of the casing, causing more drag on the gun during extraction.
Soylent Green I have no idea why it or the USP 45 haven't been ran through the test...well, cost is probably the reason. Still, I might have to send them my USP45T so we can see this. MAC, if you want to do this i will send it!
I'd like to see this done with a Smith and Wesson 686. Everyone keeps telling me revolvers are so much more reliable than semi-auto handguns and I'd like to see if that's actually the case.
They are wrong . Revolvers have more places for dirt to get into . hence the reason most handguns used in the military are semi autos . the colt 45 the 92 Beretta . sure there was revolvers issued in the past but not anymore.
I love this gun. Though I would never want to be in an extreme element situation with it for defense; it is great to know to keep it a little extra lubricated.
Mac, I have a vested interest in this handgun. So next time I need you to pause in between tests and secretly clean it so it never jams. It will be our little secret. ;)
I have the compact 2.0 and it has been 100% reliable, even after my brother in law dropped it in the river down into the sediment and gunk. Pulled it out and decided to test it, worked perfect.
Loved this gun before it was stolen in a home invasion. It really did feel so good in the hand and I had a laser and all that. Now I have a Springfield hellcat that holds 13+1 as my carry and nightstand gun. also rifles and shotguns but only one pistol. Liked it so much I will probably buy another when I see a good deal
I would guess that this test would be indicative of the performance that might be expected from an M&P Shield 45 since it's based more off of the M&P 2.0 feature set with the more aggressive grip, front serrations and better trigger(even if they won't call it the M&P 2.0 45), while the Shield 9 and 40 are based more off of the original M&P.
The reason it did so poorly might have been because of the spring. The first batch of 2.0 fulls had really tight recoil springs and people were having serious trouble with underpowered reloaded ammo. I think that just that small amount of added friction is making the slide short stroke and causes the failures to feed.
I went last week, and bought both the compact, and subcompact. Haven’t had a chance due to the weather to try them out, but after seeing this! I feel good that I bought them! I usually carry Glock, but now I have something else now!
Stitch Hall whilst Glocks are a very good durable brand, I love my subcompact S&W MP 9 shield. Working as an armed guard, I love and prefer the subcompact as it’s very concealable, and with its smaller size and profile, it’s a great deterrent for someone whom may attempt a gun grab, I also love it since two of my security contacts consists of narrow hallways and small rooms/corridors which any long gun or full sized handgun could prove to be clunky per-se and limit your freedom of movement. 💯
Thank you for these tests - so impactful on guns I’m considering purchasing immediately or in the future. I know you have a whole scroll of requests, but I’d like to add one. The CZ 09 has become a very common duty carry. I was hoping you would do this test on either the 09 Duty or Tactical. Thank you and again, I am so appreciative of your specific content.
I just got mine on 23 Feb. 2033 in Central FL and I have to say I was very impressed with the pistol! Out of the box, it was very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I also have a Glock Model 45 (9mm) and a Kimber (the Shadow and yes it works) and a Taurus Commander 1911. But that being said, I think my new carry gun will be the S&W 40. I usually carry the 1911, but for now, it will be the S&W. The ammo is also very cheap - $15.00 a box of 50- and I also used Blazer Brass and aluminum (165 gr.) and both fed just fine. The brass was only $21 a box of 50. The Tier One training 180 gr. ammo is the $15.00 a box of 50. I also used Sig Sauer V-Crown JHP 180gr. That preformed very well. It all shot very well and had great accuracy every shot. And that was another for getting back into the .40 cal. was the ammo prices. Can't beat it. I really enjoy the videos, please keep them going. The S&W 40 was $699.00 before tax. Well worth it.
Bredaxe Don't let Travis whatever see that. He'll tell you the 1911 is garbage and they rusted shut in Vietnam lmao. I love my 1911's but am far from a fanboy as I enjoy carrying it as well as my Sig's, and my new S&W M&P M2.0 FDE. But the 1911, whether it be a GI model, Sig Scorpion/ Emporer Scorpion or even a Springfield, they are great guns. I'm trying to get my hands on the ATI 1911 that has a polymer frame.
1stFallschirmjägerRgt I just bought a bob tailed Sig Emperor carry 1911. The thing is an absolute tac driver. I'd buy it again in a heart beat. It was the most expensive 1911 I have and feeds everything I've given it. Even those DRT rounds with the sharp edges, by the way, I highly recommend you try them. Check out UA-cam. A guy destroyed a hog through the shoulder and into the heart with one round. I will admit I use to be a 1911 hater, not because I hated the gun but the people that demanded it's the best firearm ever made, but that many hate on anything polymer. Ridiculous. I wanted one of those ATI's also but they went quick at that $450 price point. My next 1911 purchase will be the RIA in 10mm. 8 or 16 rounds for under a grand?! Give me two!
I'll probably have to wait on getting the Emporer Scorpion. I shot one and loved it. But when I saw a Sig Scorpion and an Emporer Scorpion next to each other at my local shop, and debated $899 vs $1100, I went for the $899 Scorpion new and it has been flawless as well as a tack driver so far. I'm not a fan of the stainless barrel, trigger and hammer, but at the $899 price I can't complain. I definitely want to get a threaded barrel for it when I get approval from the ATF for my .45 AAC Ti-Rant suppressor.
Have several of the sig 1911 love all except the classic 9mm. Had issues with heavy trigger pull and occasional trigger wouldn't reset. Cure by doing the 80 to 70 conversion
In my opinion the SD9VE and SD40VE are super solid. Super close to a glock actually. So close in fact, lost a law suit to Glock for copyright infringements. Never had a malfunction of any kind in over 1000 rds and 4 separate mag. Mags are super solid too. You may disagree but for those looking for a differing opinion... here it is 👍😊
Would love to see an unsung hero tested. The FNS 9 or 9c. These great guns are sooo overlooked and yet they perform so well. It's odd how under the radar they are - except those who have discovered them.
Just bought a M2.0 9mm. Haven't had the chance to shoot it yet, but I really like the in-hand feel, and it seems to aim very naturally for me. I've got to get to the range soon.
Just waiting to go sign the paperwork when my S&W 2.0 c 9mm comes in the shop(tomorrow?) then do the paperwork and wait 10 days. Been 20 years since I sold my 1911 45.
I have never had a single Issue with my 2.0. The only problem I had was the initial shooting out of the box it wasn’t feeding all the way while cycling. I did my usual lube on it and since over 3k rounds and not a single malfunction
One thing I have noticed watching all these videos back to back is the inconsistency of the rinsing of the gun after each of the tests. Some you rinse more then others. That would be one thing I would like to see more consistent in future tests. Love the Videos, keep up the good work.
MAC I'd love to see you test a factory Glock 19 Gen 3! I know that you carried one and so do most people including myself. I'd love to see how that stands up to the Gauntlet!!
Don't mean to be critical as I love theses videos, but I have to agree with others that you worked the slide when "rinsing" in this video and you didn't in previous tests. Thanks for the videos though, love them!
Great video! I recently purchased a shield 2.0 performance center chambered in 40 cal. Haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet. Love the gauntlet test. Thanks!
Well the lubing issue is something that can arguably affect any/all guns. Like MAC said in the video, once a gun is run dry, it can run into feeding issues. Not to mention most manufactures stress lubing already, metal against metal without lubricant can always lead to issues. Overall S&W did a good job at making a reliable pistol for EDC!
My every day is the 2.0 compact 9mm and I've owned many pistols and this is the best of every option. Grip, ergonomics, reliability, looks, mag capacity and all the extra stuff you get with it for the price.
I am no expert, but when trying to clear the slide out I have found that it's better to pull it back and let the spring bring it forward, it is a more violent return and more likely to clear anything jammed in there.
tylor hughes i think that was the mk 23 not the usp but the designs are very similar. i could be wrong about the usp though, i know for sure they did that with the mk 23.
What do you mean by, "damn thing had a purposefully placed squib and it still continued testing"? Do you mean that it had a squib and they continued to fire it without clearing it?
Jai Bronson On the MK23 (the USP's big brother) I think it was, they lodged a projectile in the barrel, then shot the bitch out with another bullet. Kept shooting afterwards with just a bulge in the barrel and it still kept good enough accuracy. I can't remember the actual accuracy measurements. Look it up, it ain't hard to find.
MAC maybe you should consider adding to the test some bone-dry pistol shooting. At the beginning of the test you get the pistol, clean it and strip it of all the lube it has from factory or previous use, and you run a few magazines in it to see if it runs well with no lube. Then you clean it, lube it and proceed with the elements test as usual. It would be interesting to see if some pistols need lube more than others!
In 5 years working as range officer for DOD ( not saying I'm an expert) , so many of the Beretta M9 came through the range and of course running 124 grain ammo. There were so many haters of the M9 but I'd say it was on the side of extremely rare that we couldn't make one run even in extreme crap weather and sand. Worst thing I saw was the slide mounted safety would sometimes engage with immediate action. ( Picture people wearing gloves and very cold hands )
After this and Garand Thumb's two torture tests on it, I am convinced this gun is magic.
Wait until they test the 5inch
I've decided that it'll be my first firearm.
@Hunter-gw4qd I love mine. It's a fantastic pistol. My friend has the full metal version and it's one of his favorite pistols too.
@@goobertoober95 I want one of those, I have the 5inch fde model and it is hands down my favorite pistol out of everything I've shot. One must have upgrade is the apex trigger. Although it does take some retraining after, double taps were a pretty easy accident at first.
If it's good enough for Nick Fury...
I finally broke down and bought my first ever handgun. I’m 58. This M&P 9 M2.0 was my choice. I really like how it felt in my hand. I’m certain I made a good choice for my first handgun.
@Zach Zach nigga it's a gun not a burger joint
This is also my first handgun! Mine has a 1911 style thumb safety and I love it!
1960Griff: Welcome. I hope you have training and carry that M2.0
@Zack Zack Why're you knocking the guy down? Maybe in his early years he wasn't mentally prepared to own a gun yet. For the record Shia LaBeouf probably wouldn't be such a hot mess if he thinked more about his decisions and didn't "just do it".
@Zach Zach is a dick.
Just picked up a M&P9 2.0 Compact , These torture test are a lot more nerve-racking to watch when you actually own the gun! Another great video Tim, Thank you for your service.
Me too! Waiting for mine!
No need to be nervous, just keep the gun clean, people actually think that just because a gun doesn't work when you shove a bunch of junk in it then it is not a good gun
How’re you liking it? I’m looking for my first firearm to conceal carry. I’ve been hearing here and there that it’s heavy?
Mine is on the way too! Can’t wait. I’ve shot a glock 19 and full size M&p and decided on the compact. I like the weight of it. Feels more secure and weighted down when firing (M&p full size) I have yet to shoot the compact, but based off of shooting the glock I’d say it’s slightly heavier which I like. Has better sights than the glock and a better grip.
@@dannyrbailey thanks for the info. After looking around and watching videos. I think I’m wanting the mp 2.0 subcompact. But so far no luck on finding a subcompact
I love my 2.0, im glad it did well in this test. Ive never had a problem with it and ive put around 2000 rounds through it.
The one consistent truth is: Never underestimate the value of keeping all firearms clean and lubed. Thanks for the vid, went well with breakfast.
hell, even bolt guns fail ridiculously easily when you get some mud into the locking lugs. Even something as basic as a musket or arquebus will fail when it gets fouled, or wet
I've been saying this for years. When people say that dumb crap about, "I haven't cleaned this gun in 10,000 rounds!" I just laugh at them. It's the dumbest crap you can do. Lube your gun properly and clean it out after every use when possible. It's not hard and it will ensure the functionality of your weapon into the future.
@@keggerous i have a cheap turkish blank gun (ekol alp) and ofc the quality is kinda terrible and in almost every test i have seen, it had a malfunktion every 2 rounds. But i cleaned it and lubed it well, and it works perfectly now. I hope it wont break untill newyear xD When im old enaugh to buy a real gun i will also always care about it
Large improvement from earlier model..well done, S&W!
I think I have been won over by a weapon I absolutely believed in till the first time it failed. The 2.0 has brought back the interest in the M&P series again.
Just picked up the tan M&P 2.0 (9mm) today.
Don't think I'm ready to toss the thing in a mud hole just yet.
Hey Mac I see so many people complaining or simply just asking for more specific guns but I just wanted to say thanks for this awesome content. I've always found these test so entertaining and interesting and you do a great job at it!
No one else mentioned the IV8888 T-shirt! Showing some support for other full30 channels, very nice!
B1ue Lobster they are friends in real life.
I was shocked he didn't mention the shirt. I used to watch IV8888 fairly often, but ever since I found out what they charge companies to showcase their stuff, it turned me off somehow.
@@brentreeve7554 why? They run a business.
@@GeauxRilla nothing wrong with running a business, I'm a business owner myself. It was just the way they worded the contract, their fees, and how they went about all of it. It may be pennies to these companies and worth it for them regardless, but they seemed like major assholes about all of it.
God is good!!!!!!!!
I noticed that S&W significantly lengthened the forward rails on the 2.0 vs. the original M&P. I wonder if this caused it to be more reliant on proper lubrication to function? Regardless I think the gun did very well in this test. I also really like seeing the behind the scenes after the test to see what it takes to get the pistol back to functioning order.
M&p 2.0 9mm has been my edc for about 2 years now. I love it
I absolutely love my M&P 2.0. From firing, accuracy, break down, etc. The entire firearm is fantastic
FTE and FTF were likely magazine induced failures. If you breakdown the magazine, notice the follower. The follower is an anti-tilt follower that prevents rounds from nose-diving and one of the aspects of this useful implementation are the front and back follower protrusions that keep the follower level which also has the magazine follower and rounds moving mechanically upwards from spring like along a track. The dirt and grim fouling up this track movement likely is what causes the failure experienced. Usual TRB (Tap, rack, bang) malfunction drill performed will correct this as shown by Tim. The continued failures is presumably from dirty magazine as only the gun was cleaned off; notice that the magazine wasn't flushed with water like the gun after the elemental testing, none of the mags looks like they were flushed and all of them dirty. This is a common failure trait with magazines with anti-tilt followers and probably more apparent with guns like the older Berettas that either lack the magazine follower anti-tilt characteristic or have looser mechanical tolerances. You can also find this problem inherent with the M/AR platform with these types of followers and exasperated by issues with springs with either too much compression opposing strength like with new springs or too little strength from compression wear, another reason why a lot of those common FTE and FTF problems can be short-term, field-expedient fixed with magazine-based or magazine circulating malfunction drills. Lubrication is a short term field expedient fix until the magazine can be broken down and cleaned as the slide has a more positive movement flowing backwards with higher force either shaking the follower free or ejecting the shot round fast enough with enough force to also have the follower shear free upwards giving more weight to the common credence of well lubricated or having well lubricated firearms like these handguns or rifles like the M/AR platform. Just my opinion, of course, in lieu of proper scientific study.
Thats what I was going to say.
It hurt to watch a beautiful gun get tortured like that but amazing to watch
If this test was done today he’d only be firing two rounds. 😂
good lord this is accurate. I am about to buy a 2.0 this weekend as a first time gun owner and i can't find any ammunition to buy with it.
@Chimps Planet I Need A Banana Ha you’d don’t shoot
@@joncampo1627 I own glocks and m&ps I think I prefer my m&ps at the range they shoot flatter and fit my hand better overall. Real joys to shoot. I own my glocks and they are ok they are reliable but nothing crazy but they work either way you go both M&p and glock are great guns and I’d have no problem choosing one or the other
Glock is amazing and all but noone compares to smith amd wesson everything they make is amazing and amazing customer service the m&p 15 sport 2 unbeatable
I think it did pretty well. Nice M&P.
great test as always
It’s tantamount to taking a Porsche GT350 off road to see if it performs as designed. These tests are absolutely pointless!
How about a Springfield torture test were you throw it in the trash and ... well just leave it there.
Working on it.
Military Arms Channel I'll give you my address, send it to me if you don't want it.
Nah I'm pretty sure we know where Texas is.
Richy is the name I would hope so. You sending me all your unwanted Springfields too? I'll take them all and give them a good home.
Military Arms Channel have an older gi spec that would be interesting to see
I’m so happy I bought one of these. 1000+ rounds of Tula without cleaning it and it’s still flawless. Oddly enough it doesn’t seem to carbon foul either
After the elemental test, I thought we might have a contender for the Rex 0-1. Ah well, it still did surprisingly well.
Keep on the great work!
Looked like some of the malfs were mag related, dirt gets in there too. GREAT VID
I think it'd be interesting to see "budget" guns such as the Canik, PT111, and SD9 go through it.
I know it’s an old comment but NEVER buy a budget gun. You’re betting your life on it, don’t skimp on firearms.
@@booya6437 To be honest budget guns have stepped it up in the past few years. I can understand why some may frown on them but the Taurus G series are giving some higher quality guns a run for their money. Another good example is the Taurus PT92 making Beretta fan’s heads turn. Budget guns might not be the same thing but a close second is what they’re doing. And for that price which to be honest is a factor when it comes to a lot of new gun buyers is a major factor. For the price of a Glock pre COVID-19 $550 you could’ve gotten a Taurus G2C for around $250, good Kydex iwb holster for $30, and $30 for a value box of Remington 9mm 115 jhp and be good to go. And for the remainder of cash you could even take a class or even better pay off some bills.
@@totalnewb123 Nothing wrong with starting cheap but you definitely don’t want to stay there. Like I said, it’s not like you’re buying a TV where you should be sensible with how much you’re spending. If you’re betting your life on it, why not save up a little bit more?
@@booya6437 that could be true and I wouldn’t blame someone for moving on up. But we have to remember some new gun owners might not want to do that nor care to. Nothing wrong with that but on a economically point more affordable firearms means more gun owners. But as time goes on it wouldn’t hurt to get something better.
@@booya6437 that’s just a really dumb comment. There’s several budget guns that are damn good and reliable. Also by your ridiculous theory nobody should have ever bought a Glock when they first came out. They were new and pretty damn cheap. Good God, don’t ever buy anything but a 1911! It’s the only thing that’s expensive enough and been proven!!!
I was pleasantly surprised by the results of this, been looking at getting one of these and now this gives me a bit more incentive. Great video MAC!
I wasn't disappointed at all for the small failures.
Great video
Thank you 👍
I suspect those errors were magazine related. It was locking back but failing to load the round.
My thoughts as well. Doesn't seem like there was any attempt to hose out the mags.
Not to mention, they're kinda finicky with the magazines in how you load the rounds.
What I was thinking
Impressive! One of the best performers. Thanks for these tests!
Makes me glad i actually bought my m&p 2.0 fde. Excellent video.
SO WE JUST GONNA ACT LIKE THE S&W M&P 2.0 IS NOT THE BEST LOOKING NEW GUN OUT???
Without a doubt
Yo it sassy . Putt some respeckt on m&p name ..ninja🤬
Fnx 45 tactical
Still Better looking than a hi point
got mine in FDE.... sooooo good
Discovered something interesting today. The recoil spring in the full size M&P is interchangeable with the one from a gen 1-3 Glock 17, 22.
This may sound dumb but in a pinch you can always your own oils to lube the gun. Pretty common in the fishing community to use the oil on your face to lube the spool, if you’re out in the bush you could use your hair or face to oil the rail.
After watching these torture videos that MAC makes , I ended up selling my Sig P320 and buying an M&P 2.0 !
Smart man 100%
Sucked it up and watched a 2 minute ad before the video started! Love the torture tests, keep them coming!
Often overlooked is the extractor channel. That is a major player in hang ups with my findings. Debris can slightly shift the extractor away from full control of the casing, causing more drag on the gun during extraction.
Anyone else wanting to see a Mark 23 go through this test?
Guido Encalada FUCK YES
Guido Encalada yes it's the 'most reliable handgun ever made' let's see.
Soylent Green I have no idea why it or the USP 45 haven't been ran through the test...well, cost is probably the reason. Still, I might have to send them my USP45T so we can see this. MAC, if you want to do this i will send it!
Jblooddrunk you would be a hero to many people if you do.
Guido Encalada I have already decided I will do it so I reckon MAC should contact me about sending it or something.
This was a good performance, it made it to the end of the gauntlet without any issues that couldn't be resolved by simply racking the slide.
I would like to see a canik tested like this pretty curious how a budget pistol would do
Am considering buying a S&W m2.0 .40 compact. I appreciate the review. The info and real life testing visuals are great. Thank you.
You are the man, Tim.
That makes me really want to try a 2.0.
if you pop open an M&P 2.0, they're surprisingly open and simple on the insides. This may be why it does well.
I'd like to see this done with a Smith and Wesson 686. Everyone keeps telling me revolvers are so much more reliable than semi-auto handguns and I'd like to see if that's actually the case.
They are wrong . Revolvers have more places for dirt to get into . hence the reason most handguns used in the military are semi autos . the colt 45 the 92 Beretta . sure there was revolvers issued in the past but not anymore.
I love this gun. Though I would never want to be in an extreme element situation with it for defense; it is great to know to keep it a little extra lubricated.
This is definitely better than the gen 5 Glock with the horrible front cutout
This is a boomer gun you pleb
Kody King. Glock was introduced to U.S. market in 1980s. M&P in 2005.
Which one is a boomer gun? 😆
AlwaysAdventurous302 Still not wrong
Lol no. Glock is better.
Put on Gunbroker the next day: " barely used, only one box of rounds through it. Safe queen ever since I bought it." lol
Mac, I have a vested interest in this handgun. So next time I need you to pause in between tests and secretly clean it so it never jams. It will be our little secret. ;)
Thank you.
Rebel Littlezero you own smith and Wesson stock?
M&p 2.0 i will function very dirty long as it's lubed like with a AR
Littlezero
I have the compact 2.0 and it has been 100% reliable, even after my brother in law dropped it in the river down into the sediment and gunk. Pulled it out and decided to test it, worked perfect.
Loved this gun before it was stolen in a home invasion. It really did feel so good in the hand and I had a laser and all that. Now I have a Springfield hellcat that holds 13+1 as my carry and nightstand gun. also rifles and shotguns but only one pistol.
Liked it so much I will probably buy another when I see a good deal
I am aproud owner of a M&P 2.0 great video keep up the good work.
Ive noticed that Tim is the only shootuber Ive seen that shows love to other shootubers with their merchandise. What a nice guy.
Being OCD as F I noticed that most of the malfunctions were around 6 or 7 shots, seems maybe a mag issue?
I would guess that this test would be indicative of the performance that might be expected from an M&P Shield 45 since it's based more off of the M&P 2.0 feature set with the more aggressive grip, front serrations and better trigger(even if they won't call it the M&P 2.0 45), while the Shield 9 and 40 are based more off of the original M&P.
The reason it did so poorly might have been because of the spring. The first batch of 2.0 fulls had really tight recoil springs and people were having serious trouble with underpowered reloaded ammo. I think that just that small amount of added friction is making the slide short stroke and causes the failures to feed.
I went last week, and bought both the compact, and subcompact. Haven’t had a chance due to the weather to try them out, but after seeing this! I feel good that I bought them! I usually carry Glock, but now I have something else now!
How much you pay?. Do you mind
Stitch Hall whilst Glocks are a very good durable brand, I love my subcompact S&W MP 9 shield. Working as an armed guard, I love and prefer the subcompact as it’s very concealable, and with its smaller size and profile, it’s a great deterrent for someone whom may attempt a gun grab, I also love it since two of my security contacts consists of narrow hallways and small rooms/corridors which any long gun or full sized handgun could prove to be clunky per-se and limit your freedom of movement. 💯
p246784 for my subcompact S&W MP 9 Shield for a very good price. I paid approximately just a bit over $400 for mine at a law enforcement wholesaler.
Thank you for these tests - so impactful on guns I’m considering purchasing immediately or in the future.
I know you have a whole scroll of requests, but I’d like to add one. The CZ 09 has become a very common duty carry. I was hoping you would do this test on either the 09 Duty or Tactical.
Thank you and again, I am so appreciative of your specific content.
Get the M&P compact review up please. Just saw pics on instagram. You are doing great as always.
It would be interesting to see the S&W Shield, Glock 26, and Springfield XDS go head to head in the gauntlet.
I just got mine on 23 Feb. 2033 in Central FL and I have to say I was very impressed with the pistol! Out of the box, it was very accurate and pleasant to shoot. I also have a Glock Model 45 (9mm) and a Kimber (the Shadow and yes it works) and a Taurus Commander 1911. But that being said, I think my new carry gun will be the S&W 40. I usually carry the 1911, but for now, it will be the S&W. The ammo is also very cheap - $15.00 a box of 50- and I also used Blazer Brass and aluminum (165 gr.) and both fed just fine. The brass was only $21 a box of 50. The Tier One training 180 gr. ammo is the $15.00 a box of 50. I also used Sig Sauer V-Crown JHP 180gr. That preformed very well. It all shot very well and had great accuracy every shot. And that was another for getting back into the .40 cal. was the ammo prices. Can't beat it. I really enjoy the videos, please keep them going. The S&W 40 was $699.00 before tax. Well worth it.
I'll be honest I'm most curious about a GI style 1911. And the fnx 45.(my home defense gun) we need some 45 love in these tests.
Soylent Green We know for sure the GI1911s work in field conditions, All over Europe, Asia and the Pacific. That 45 round is a flat out beast.
Bredaxe Don't let Travis whatever see that. He'll tell you the 1911 is garbage and they rusted shut in Vietnam lmao. I love my 1911's but am far from a fanboy as I enjoy carrying it as well as my Sig's, and my new S&W M&P M2.0 FDE. But the 1911, whether it be a GI model, Sig Scorpion/ Emporer Scorpion or even a Springfield, they are great guns. I'm trying to get my hands on the ATI 1911 that has a polymer frame.
1stFallschirmjägerRgt I just bought a bob tailed Sig Emperor carry 1911. The thing is an absolute tac driver. I'd buy it again in a heart beat. It was the most expensive 1911 I have and feeds everything I've given it. Even those DRT rounds with the sharp edges, by the way, I highly recommend you try them. Check out UA-cam. A guy destroyed a hog through the shoulder and into the heart with one round. I will admit I use to be a 1911 hater, not because I hated the gun but the people that demanded it's the best firearm ever made, but that many hate on anything polymer. Ridiculous. I wanted one of those ATI's also but they went quick at that $450 price point. My next 1911 purchase will be the RIA in 10mm. 8 or 16 rounds for under a grand?! Give me two!
I'll probably have to wait on getting the Emporer Scorpion. I shot one and loved it. But when I saw a Sig Scorpion and an Emporer Scorpion next to each other at my local shop, and debated $899 vs $1100, I went for the $899 Scorpion new and it has been flawless as well as a tack driver so far. I'm not a fan of the stainless barrel, trigger and hammer, but at the $899 price I can't complain. I definitely want to get a threaded barrel for it when I get approval from the ATF for my .45 AAC Ti-Rant suppressor.
Have several of the sig 1911 love all except the classic 9mm. Had issues with heavy trigger pull and occasional trigger wouldn't reset. Cure by doing the 80 to 70 conversion
Wearing it in its expected to run better without lube, good results. Best series of videos from gun channels, keep them coming.
I would love to see the S&W SD9VE does in comparison to the more expensive M&P line.
I second that motion.
Junk
I owned the stove for about 10 days before I knew it was junk and sold it. Picked up the shield 2.0 9mm full size a bit ago, its night and day
Juiceman i have both. Get the 2.0. Sd9 is ok. 2.0 Is better for sure
In my opinion the SD9VE and SD40VE are super solid. Super close to a glock actually. So close in fact, lost a law suit to Glock for copyright infringements. Never had a malfunction of any kind in over 1000 rds and 4 separate mag. Mags are super solid too. You may disagree but for those looking for a differing opinion... here it is 👍😊
Would love to see an unsung hero tested. The FNS 9 or 9c. These great guns are sooo overlooked and yet they perform so well. It's odd how under the radar they are - except those who have discovered them.
Test single stack carry guns. You can do a Shield vs G43 video.
Colt C and Walther PPS m2
@@dxzebeats having owned all 3, my favorite is the PPS M2. That's saying a lot considering how much I love Glock
Nice Gauntlet test, glad the series is back. Thanks for sharing MAC!
Love my full-size 2.0 M&P
Who's watching this AFTER buying the pistol and just praying it passed the first test? Lol
Can't wait to get mine, gonna be my 1st CCW.
Bass Blaster you may want to go w/ the compact one (3.1”) vs this one (4.25”)
Have to get one.
@@dxzebeats I went with the 4" barrel 👍
Just bought a M2.0 9mm. Haven't had the chance to shoot it yet, but I really like the in-hand feel, and it seems to aim very naturally for me. I've got to get to the range soon.
Just waiting to go sign the paperwork when my S&W 2.0 c 9mm comes in the shop(tomorrow?) then do the paperwork and wait 10 days.
Been 20 years since I sold my 1911 45.
Ten additional days; what state are you based, brother?
I have never had a single
Issue with my 2.0. The only problem I had was the initial shooting out of the box it wasn’t feeding all the way while cycling. I did my usual lube on it and since over 3k rounds and not a single malfunction
YAY! Warmer weather means more flying water, sand, dirt, and mud. If we are lucky maybe all 3 mixed together.
One thing I have noticed watching all these videos back to back is the inconsistency of the rinsing of the gun after each of the tests. Some you rinse more then others. That would be one thing I would like to see more consistent in future tests. Love the Videos, keep up the good work.
Nice test did pretty good... A test of the new Beretta APX 9mm would be nice. Lots of folks would like to see it put through the reliability test. tx
I had this same weak ejections from my 2.0 of a video I did a month ago. Thanks for the video MAC
MAC I'd love to see you test a factory Glock 19 Gen 3! I know that you carried one and so do most people including myself. I'd love to see how that stands up to the Gauntlet!!
Nice to see gun shows giving each other a shout out and coming together.
I liked this video even though you didn't do the "cast The gun in a solid square block of concrete and see if it fires" test.
M&P 2.0 does really well in wet conditions. The mags really need a little break in.
Bought one of these today. Haven't shot it yet, but I am curious about it. Itll be my go to firearm.
I love these videos. You gotta bring it back man.
I own this gun and love it.
The problems were 99% caused by the extractor.
Don't mean to be critical as I love theses videos, but I have to agree with others that you worked the slide when "rinsing" in this video and you didn't in previous tests. Thanks for the videos though, love them!
Looks like a winner to me!!!Great job S&W!!!!
Wow, color me impressed. Much better results this time. Thanks MAC!
FN 5 7 next
I've never shot a first gen M&P, but from the two 2.0's I own, I couldn't be happier.
wish he would have cleaned the mag before the final shooting im betting its a dirty mag issue
No.10
That's my thought also! Didn't see the mags. getting rinsed out at all. Makes me wonder if it was just a dirty mag., and not the gun!
They were never cleaned when gun was re-lubed when test was over, and then the gun worked perfectly! So it wasn’t the mags...
Great video! I recently purchased a shield 2.0 performance center chambered in 40 cal. Haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet. Love the gauntlet test. Thanks!
I wonder if polishing the feed ramp or upgrading the magazine would make a difference?
As an aerospace engineer, I must say, I would trust looking at this guy’s data analysis before presenting to the VP
M&P 2.0 is the finest USA made self defense gun made.
Just keep it lubed or it won’t work!! (As per the video test results)
Well the lubing issue is something that can arguably affect any/all guns. Like MAC said in the video, once a gun is run dry, it can run into feeding issues. Not to mention most manufactures stress lubing already, metal against metal without lubricant can always lead to issues.
Overall S&W did a good job at making a reliable pistol for EDC!
My every day is the 2.0 compact 9mm and I've owned many pistols and this is the best of every option. Grip, ergonomics, reliability, looks, mag capacity and all the extra stuff you get with it for the price.
this dude tortures handguns like he's preparing a batch of fried chicken
bitronic1 💯
Please...Beretta APX!!!!!
It'll happen, I bet.
He did it.
Done
Nice! There was a Fitbit ad in front of your video which I in turn clicked. rock on!
Love the shirt my friend. Good to see gun nuts supporting other gun nuts ("gun nut" being a term of endearment, of course).
I am no expert, but when trying to clear the slide out I have found that it's better to pull it back and let the spring bring it forward, it is a more violent return and more likely to clear anything jammed in there.
HK USP
Jblooddrunk that'd be nice to see. damn thing had a purposefully placed squib and it still continued testing.
tylor hughes i think that was the mk 23 not the usp but the designs are very similar. i could be wrong about the usp though, i know for sure they did that with the mk 23.
What do you mean by, "damn thing had a purposefully placed squib and it still continued testing"? Do you mean that it had a squib and they continued to fire it without clearing it?
Jai Bronson On the MK23 (the USP's big brother) I think it was, they lodged a projectile in the barrel, then shot the bitch out with another bullet. Kept shooting afterwards with just a bulge in the barrel and it still kept good enough accuracy. I can't remember the actual accuracy measurements. Look it up, it ain't hard to find.
Holy shit that's crazy!
The intro never gets old I dig it brother lol
HK USP and FN 5-7.
ShooterMcGavin H the FiveseveN would be interesting, I don't know if it being a concealed hammer design would make it more or less reliable.
FN 5-7!!!!
He should do a more common / cheaper gun like the S&W SD 9mm/40cal
I want to see that as well.
MAC maybe you should consider adding to the test some bone-dry pistol shooting. At the beginning of the test you get the pistol, clean it and strip it of all the lube it has from factory or previous use, and you run a few magazines in it to see if it runs well with no lube. Then you clean it, lube it and proceed with the elements test as usual. It would be interesting to see if some pistols need lube more than others!
Hi Eric!... Wait...
In 5 years working as range officer for DOD ( not saying I'm an expert) , so many of the Beretta M9 came through the range and of course running 124 grain ammo. There were so many haters of the M9 but I'd say it was on the side of extremely rare that we couldn't make one run even in extreme crap weather and sand. Worst thing I saw was the slide mounted safety would sometimes engage with immediate action. ( Picture people wearing gloves and very cold hands )