Tumbler VS Horl 2 Knife Sharpeners | WHICH ONES BETTER?
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- HORL 2 VERSUS THE TUMBLER KNIFE SHARPENING SYSTEMS, WHICH ONE IS BETTER? THE HORL 2 AND TUMBER ARE BOTH ROLLING KNIFE SHARPENING SYSTEMS THAT MAKE SHARPENING VERY EASY FOR ANYONE, TODAY WE ARE GOING TO SHOW WHY WHICH ONE IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER.
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This is the first time I’ve heard of the HORL and I’m glad I did, I was about 30 minutes away from ordering the wrong one
Exact same situation here!
So glad you dived into this. Its bee bugging me seeing those shorts non-stop knowing that HORL is taking legal action.
Horl’s taking legal action against them?
@@durrburgerjosh I hope so. How is this not product piracy?
They didn‘t file for a patent in the US, only Europe (as they didn’t expect it to take off) and when their product became widely known, tumblr just patented it in the US before Horl did. (Paraphrasing a comment by one of the owners in a german thread)
I have an interview scheduled with HORL in Germany in two weeks and will be doing a follow up video on this topic for those interested.
@@Krispy96 still a rip off
It’s not the views…it’s who views. This is expanding credibility. Public service. Great job.
Good video. I talked to the Horl people at a knife fair in Albacete in Spain last year. Though I use whetstones for kitchen knives and lately the KME for folding knives, I did like their system. Of course, the angle will vary a bit on blades with a strong curve, but I felt confident enough to recommend it to a friend, he bought it and seems happy with it.
The Horl 2 is the one to get.
Never heard of Horl sharpener, thanks for the honest comparison video.
I'm glad I saw this random video. I've been planning on buying the Tumblr sharpener bcuz of all the shorts here on YT now I know that HORL is deffinetly the way to go
Thanks for doing this. I kind of assumed the results but you had a lot of insight that I didn’t consider.
Thank you for this! I just got the Tumbler sharpener and I think it's good for now but whenever I can afford to upgrade, I'll get the Horl. I just wanted to kinda dip my toe into this world of sharpening before fully committing to it
These both started popping up in my shopping algorithm. Thanks for helping me make the decision 👍
Thanks for this comparison, I’ve seen the Tumbler advertised like crazy lately on social media which is often a dead giveaway that the product isn’t great. I’ve been looking at the Horl 2 but wondered if the extra cost was worth it.
I've seen both, but have seen more tumbler. It's not bad and I've had zero issues with the magnets on the Tumbler. Just as strong as the Horl. I got the Tumbler and bro got the Horl. It's a moot point. As far as the Tumbler knife.. mine did not come with one. That said, both sharpeners will have issues with knives like that. Just place the handle on a cutting board to raise the blade up higher. I do like the Horl having options to change the stone on the reverse end. That is nice. 👍🏻
@@BadCo1999the Tumbler is just a rip off of the HORL(which came out 30 years ago). Whereas the Tumbler came out a year ago. Cheaper stones, cheaper magnets, everything is just a cheaper copy. Not worth the $100 it costs plus having to pay for the Strap
Thanks for sharing. The side by side comparison was very useful.
Into my second time using the tumbler and it’s not spinning at all ! It makes squeaking sounds and jams at one point where you have to force it to spin. I contacted tumbler and they said they don’t have a quick fix to this issue and advised me to apply for a replacement or a refund.
Thank you for diving into this ! Much appreciated.
Fantastic comparison. Thank you Jared.
You should have more likes for this video. I’m glad I came across this as I thought they were the same product. Huge help! Thanks
Thank you for demonstrating why not to buy a knock off product. Quality is what you pay for.
Appreciate the thoughts Jared.
Glad there's a video in this. I was trying to figure out why the horl cost so much more? Since I'm all about quality, I'd go with the Horl. But also, that Tumbler cost extra for the leather strap
Been waiting to see you tackle this since I started seeing those terrible shorts. Thank you!
Thanks for that disclosure about it being for chef knifes. I thought it was for pocket knifes and straight razor.
So glad I watched this review…that weak magnet would have made me go crazy… thanks
OK, I'm sold. i so nearly bought a tumbler, glad i did some research!
You could of bought a two way sharpening stone for like 30 bucks.
Thanks for that video. I’m gonna pay extra for the Horl. Just canceled my order with the competition
Glad I went to the Tube before buying the Tumbler because I didn’t even know Horl existed before this video. I thought Tumbler was the new thing. Definitely going to go the Horl route.
Great, simple video that gets things right.
Nail on the head. Thank you for the concise and informative comparison.
Thank you. I almost bought the tumbler.
Came to YT to see a tumblr review because I know nothing about knife sharpening and honestly I thought at first glance that HORL was the knock off version but really didn’t dig into it because of the price. I figured just watch a couple videos and boy am I glad I did. Thanks, looks like I will be buying the HORL system.
Tks a lot for this comparison ❤
I got a proper review and a wholesome interaction at the end. Das good
I think this would be excellent for Old hickory knives from Ontario.. and I'm so glad you actually did a video on this because I keep seeing these stupid shorts and I thought it was a gimmick lol this isn't something that I would buy personally but I do respect your unbiased opinion
@Neeves Knives: Great review, thank you! Tumbler kept showing up in my Instagram feed so I was curious. Glad I found your review! 🙇
Same here. I've got been bombarded with Tumbler adds on UA-cam over the last month 🙉
Thank you so much for this informative video. Was considering buying this system for my mother so glad you did a video to show us the difference.
Ditto!
I was trying to make a decision between those two. You just made it for me. It is going to be the Horl 2. Thanks! :-)
Glad I could help!
I saw tumbler first and thought that was the original. Im not a fan of this type of sharpener so it never really mattered to me but I hate straight up rip off brands and I'm glad it's being put out there
Thank you so much for doing this video
Cool review.. I was wondering about these
This made my decision for which one i will eventually buy my husband, we just cant afford the horl currently. Maybe next year
How does the HORL compare to the Worksharp Professional Precision Adjust? If you had to choose which one would you pick and why? I am about to buy one to sharpen my kitchen knives. I am between the HORL and the WSPPA.
Have the Horl coming in the post. Glad I made the right choice.
How're you liking it a couple months into using it?
Ty for this video I needed to know
Because of your video, I will buy a horl sharpener!
Thank you for this I was looking at which one to buy
Thanks! Will be getting the horl... you wouldn't have an international shipping link would you?. I live in Australia
Great review. Thanks.
I can't wait for Jerrod to review the new work sharp pro adjust
Thanks for sharing bud I’ll definitely get one for Grandma or mother n law but not for me lol unless I start cooking more
I have an authentical tanto that I bought in Kyoto and a genuine japanese chef knife. Will this Horl 2 works for these 2 different blades ? Thanks !
Great video, knife enthusiasts should see
This would be interesting if someone did a "Mini" size for folders. Looks super simple!
Felix Imler (I think that's how it's spelled) did a teeny little tiny one a few days ago for SAKs. If the parts needing purchased scale up I'd bet you could make one pretty inexpensive.
@@myfavoriteviewer306 Love that guy, SAK God.
JA JOM... ROEPEN!
Good to see a review about this by the way. :)
Great video. I was considering one of these but I'm a pocket knife fan and that's what I'd use the sharpener for. Is there another pocket knife sharpener you would recommend being that these are more for chef knives??
Its so worth it to learn on a whetstone just use a sharpie to mark the edge to know where you have donr
Of the two its plain to see why the Horl is better overall but can see many buying the tumbler ones just based on price alone. Personally I use either diamonds or whetstone's for my kitchen knives but can see the value in these for those who just want to do kitchen knives and the learning curve is very easy as well. Kara hinting at that infomercial was hilarious at the end lol. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Because the patent has probably expired and the horl is a riff off another design from back in the day.
@@bobbyleglocks1992 no actually it is an original idea
Thanks heaps!!
any feedback if how safe the method is? the blade is facing the person
I picked up the horl cruise wich is the cheaper option with only 20° angle and a steel honing disc. It will arrive in a few days. Maybe I cheaped out but if I like it I plan on selling it or giving it away and getting the one with ceramic honing disc and interchangeable discs.
I ordered it a few days ago and now I’m very happy the tumbler doesn’t ship to sweden wich is the reason I went with Horl :)
Would like to see something like this for straight razors.
Dude thats it u sold me.. Am sold.. I don't even need a sharpener.. I don't even cook!
What’s a good sharpener for a pocket knife ?
Appreciate it, didn’t even know the horl existed till 5 minutes ago, too many tumbler reviews
On Amazon it’s 180 for just the basic bits the tumblr has, it’s an additional $139 for the premium sharpness set and the leather strap is a separate cost as well. Just throwing that out there.
Just throwing that out there a good quality chef knife would cost around 50 bucks and a 1000 grid whetstone for another 20 bucks, so f-these garbage kits
@@Madafakapieceofshit u woke up and chose violence
Yea, its nutty expensive. Sorry but 200 for a pice of wood with a magnet and then a round stone with a bearing isn't worth it.. id need them to tell me why it's so much money..
@@Ryan-re1rs it's 3x the cost of a good quality whetstone and cheaper than some much more expensive whetstones. Good quality stones cost money, this takes two stones and puts them into a highly convenient form factor. Not only that, but things made out of solid wood with some precision (the bearing doesn't wobble and is concentric with the wood) manufacturing do cost money.
While I think Horl are making good money on this, I don't think their margins are much larger than that of the average cheapo sharpener company.
I agree but this gimmick is not worth 3 x the money.@@isfiyiywafibc6qaiiiiiiiiii570
thank you!
Can I use these products to sharpen my combat knives?
Cool video thanks.
I have the Tumbler which was given to me to test and it works but takes a very very long time on anything dull as in 450+ on the BESS scale on my edge tester. The magnets are definitely weak so I needed to hold the handle firmly. Good review. Should be noted the base HORL2 cruise is $139 v $98 for Tumbler. The HORL2 pro you showed is $429.00. I confirmed with HORL directly their legal teams are involved re: Tumbler but details are not being released (which is normal).
Tbf that’s the HORL Pro 2 - this is the HORL 2 which is a lot cheaper.
In the UK it’s £329 and £159 so a lot different
@@randomrequirements9066 $100.00 U.S. (109.00 Canadian) + 10% less discount for the HONE which has more features than Horl2 Pro. Hundreds less and great quality.
The Tumbler works great. I have one and I sharpen all my knives, including paring knives and pocketknives, with it and they come out very sharp. The Horl in your video is $429, another $139 for the Horl Premium Sharpness Set for the other disks, plus tax. This ends up being $614.86 on my check out page. This leads me to believe that you were given the set to use for making a video. It is like comparing a Geo Metro to Roll Royce pricewise and saying the Rolls is a better value.
Been hitting the gym mate 👍
Tormek does the same thing, sends you a scandi ground mora which is the least suitable knife for the system.
always
Careful, at 6:37, you've got someone making noises in the mic lol.
Thanks for the review. I got the Tumbler, and it works great. Functionally I think it will work well enough for me until it wears out, but my next purchase will be an official HORL system. I like the idea of swappable discs, and a stronger magnet.
I'm really surprised to see this receive such good reviews. I kept seeing ads for it in the buzzwordy "Pinnacle of German swiss Japanese engineering for those leading the bespoke lifestyle" type social media campaigns that usually mean it's yuppy garbage. Now I find out I was totally wrong and it may make a decent kitchen knife sharpener to keep handy.
I got the tumbler to see if I would like the rolling system and I do. now that I know I like the rolling system, I won't mind getting the more expensive option when I can.
I may not have considered the rolling system if it wasn't for the tumbler and how much less money it cost.
I have used the "pull through" system before and I hate them and would never get nor recommend them. The same cannot be said about the rolling system. There are still some things I think could be improved with the rolling system, based on my experience with the tumbler, but I have truly enjoyed the rolling system and plan to pick up a Horl when my budget allows for it.
If you ever want to know what happens to your edge with a pull through you should watch my video on them I posted a week or so ago
I wish I had seen this video before I bought the Tumber... But it's still better than what I had before.
Isnt it a problem with both of these if ypur factory edge isnt 15 or 20 degrees, you kind of need to reprofile your edge?
I would consider the Horl if I needed to sharpen kitchen knives all that much. I think I'm saving up to decide on that WS PA Pro or save more for the Kadet Pro.
The worksharp professional or whatever it's called looks great! I think it's $300 though. I believe pre-orders start next month.
Woah, thanks for this review. I think I'll rather buy quality if I'm cooking a lot.
Jerad...the new Sham-Wow guy! 😅😅😅
lol
@@NeevesKnives 👊👊👊 Very nice comparison, Jerad!
I think he’s more of the slap chop kinda guy
@@danpennella isn't that the same guy??
@@cueball981 haha I think your right! Blonde with the goofy headset and too much gel?
Worksharp precision adjust can be used by anyone with about 1 minute of instruction. DBK proved that. They had the professional version, but still it's the same deal. I still, ALWAYS, recommend the precision adjust.
From what I’ve seen on Amazon the Horl doesn’t come with extra stones for $189. All I can find is an addition kit for $139. 3:37
Jerad's face when feeling that edge😂😂
Cool idea however, I don’t see this replacing anything sharpening systems I own yet
I add my comment because I liked your video. 🤜🤛
Ok so are the planetary gears for the like 3 to 1 ratio and better build worth the extra 200? Idk I just have lots of knives and little time..... I can sharpen knives but its time and mess I already dont have time or a space for. I ordered one today and im hoping it can just speed things up because everything else other than stones is absolute garbage.
I could be wrong, but the HORL 2, which you linked, does not come with all the interchangable discs, those are.aold separately. The HORL PRO 2 may have some extra discs, but I'm unsure on that as I don't see that listed, but @$429 dollars vs $189 dollars, what else could that be!!
Thank you! I rather get the one that works than the knockoff.
I have the gen 3 wicked edge system. I will stick with that. These two systems only allow two bevel angles. Meaning you would really most likely be re-profiling your knife the first time you used this system.
The horl 2 does not come with all that included in the box...
I always thought the Tumbler just looked like a Wish version of the Horl now I am sure it is!
Great info, thanks dude! Also, I have 1000/500 sharpening stones for my kitchen knives... can I use them for my pocket knife?
I use the same 180/500/1000/3000/6000 stones for my folders, fixed blades and stainless + carbon steel kitchen knives. No problems.
These are better for large knives than fixed angle systems like kme or worksharp. Once you get to the outer limits of the pivot angle, you get unstable edge geometry
On my Lansky I have three clamps that I need to use on large knives because of that problem. Takes a bit longer to get the clamps aligned properly and of course moving from clamp to clamp when moving along the blade isn't super fast either. Still works well.
Please describy why not use with pocket knife and what is best and easiest for pocket knifes
Thank you for this! I have been looking at the tumbler for a long time. Apparently was hesitating for a reason
Doesn’t the size of the knife change the sharpening angle?
I would definitely use the money on some shaptons.
Does anyone know what knife or type of knife he was sharpening
How does the sharpness compare to freehand sharpening?
On the knives that it works best on, just as good because it puts the scratch pattern exactly how you want it, with a flat stone
Ive also heard of lots of people ordering the tumbler and not receiving their order
thats because they are on back orders now and are only doing preorders, they are trying to fill them, even mine took months to get after purchasing
Man I wished I saw this video before I bought the tumbler. I purchased my tumbler in the middle of June and sharpened 3 knives. As of today 8/26/23 the tumbler doesn't spin at all.
how does it compare with wet ceramic stones ?
Exactly... my stones cost like 30 dollars in total and it's super easy to sharpen any knife with them.
Thank you for the review I’m older now and just want good and simple,only need to sharpen folders. Was lookin at these but oh well. 👍🏻✌️peace out
So what’s the best way to sharpen your knife if the knife is too tall for the roller?
If it's to tall you just stack a book or cutting board under so you can get more height with the roller, otherwise freehand or fixed angled
How does this work for a larger or taller knife like a cleaver ?
You just use a book or cutting board like shown in video, watch my work sharp rolling sharpener