Damn....why does Ranni's Dark Moon deflect better than that stupid piece of shit, can't be bothered to wake up in the morning and be a contributing member of society, poor excuse for a black hole substitute? Sometimes I don't understand FromSofts balancing. Edit: You know exactly what spell I'm talking about. Don't pretend you don't.
@@LonePhantom756Rocks created by Stone of Gurranq and Rock Sling count as magical projectiles and thus can be parried with Carian Retaliation or deleted entirely with Full-Moon spells.
Eh you wouldn’t e who you are today without a meme you saw 3 days ago either Nor would you be who you are tomorrow without reading this reply everything that happens just eventually shaped out who you become not really anything significant just a normal everyday occurrence
@@the_jingoYou are either trying to be funny or intelligent, of which you are neither. Usually when someone says “I wouldn’t be the ___ I am today without (person)”, it is implied that the individual was influenced enough by that outside factor that it warranted a show of praise. If you could pick up on basic social cues, which I highly doubt due to your insufferable comment, you would realize that your comment was completely irrelevant and extremely pretentious.
@@the_jingoPeople who nitpick everything and actively ignore subtext just to “correct” others are not fun people. They are annoying, and I would recommend you stop posting these types of comments if you have any respect.
@@funnynickname4005 is my job to entertain you? No I’m not required to be fun if you do not wish to read such comment then I suggest you not reading any comments
Impenetrable Thorns can be used with Endure or Grafted sword, swap Alberich helm & pants for some heavier armor... And its auto win. It does suck vs human sized enemies, because it always misses in melee, but everything else instantly melts.
It needed it honestly, Int stuff dominated the Souls games and to get anything decent for incantations you usually had to do some ridiculously annoying quests 😂
Honestly Carian Slicer could just be #1 at this point just based on fun factor. It is so quick, it feels almost like using a dagger where you can attack in between combos, which leads to a far more aggressive and fun play style. And it's the only sorcery that really lends itself to this style
you can deal much more DPS with weapons though, while also having hyperarmor. And in terms of strength, nothing comes even close to Impenetrable Thorns, thats not just best sorcery, thats strongest thing in the game by far.
Ah Microcos, or some say Microcosm, do you hear our prayers? As you once did for the master Azur, grant us damage, grant us damage. Cleanse us of our low intelligence builds (Laughs feverishly)
Fleeting Micro doesn’t just spawn under the player, it can spawn under enemies around 25-30 linear feet away and can be used on enemies below you while you’re on a ledge.
Very good list! Only thing I disagree is about Adula's Moonblade. It has very good range on the projectile, stunlocks most smaller enemies, and comes out really fast, so it's spammable, almost Carian Slicer level (at a higher cost). The damage is very high, and I feel like it's safer to use than Zamor Ice Storm. Especially in the DLC, where enemies are crazy aggressive. Adula's is just crazy. The best part is that, because it's just a bit slower than Carian Slicer, it gives enemies a bit of time to reach you, but not enough to attack you. So they get within range of the full damage, but while still being stunlocked
I might put Dark Moon a bit higher due to its use as an additional evasive option. Being able to evade and attack while punishing is hugely valuable against the DLC bosses, especially because those scenarios (twin moon, consort meteors, PK's fire, dancing lions breath + spins) wouldn't allow for a strong punish. There aren’t as many windows for big punishes, but with dark/full moon you can make those windows happen where they normally wouldn't. I'd probably swap it and microcosm (in my experience enemies usually move after taking the first instance of damage). Great list!
Dark Moon is awesome because: - applies magic defense down 10% - applies frost, which when full puts all defense down another 10% - hits kinda hard - tracks very well, and far - the part where you're a moon is a basically an evade AND counter It helped in my vid against Malenia and was my primary way to beat Sludge Horse.
99 int. Frost Hat w Ranni’s Moon chunkssss. Try this combo for fun too it creates some of the coolest visuals & hit for a lotttt of damage. Founding Rain of Stars(for protection) into Ranni’s Moon, Flame of the FellGod, Gravitational Missile, & then Fleeting Microcosm. It feels like you’re controlling all the Elements
Thanks. These are really high quality for how quickly you make them. Would really appreciate the current top of all catalysts at different int/fth levels and for split builds. For me that's still by far the hardest thing to figure out just from the visible stats as i plan a build.
Longtime occasional viewer who became a subscribed regular viewer after the dlc released here: i've really been enjoying all your new ranking lists! I appreciate how you don't waste time and always get a chuckle whenever there's a surprise joke or two. Thank you for all your hard work!!! ❤
Not gonna lie, switching from INT build I used up until NG+6 - I gotta say FTH is so much better it's not even funny... the only thing I miss is the Carian Greatsword thingy.
What's your build now? I have been INT for NG+1 and +2. Now in +3 and thinking I might try FTH. Currently I use cold infused milady and backhand blades with pretty much the spells shown in this video.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Pure damage? Pest-thread Spears & Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike outdamage pretty much anything INT can pull off on bigger bosses. On smaller bosses you can just use Catch Flame and it does similar if not better damage than Carian Slicer. As for ranged single target option, Royal Lightning Spear & Frenzied Burst are here to help, although it's hard to do better ranged single target damage than dual staff of loss night coment spam, so there is that. Don't get me started on weapon options because most if not all are outclasses by just spamming blasphemous blade weapon art. Don't' get me wrong, INT is very, very good, I had no issues with it for the most part - it's just that FTH has a different answer to everything... meanwhile INT usually ends up just spamming night comet since it's the most safe and efficient.
@@faytelan I'm using 25 str / 18 int / 80 fth right now. Any FTH spells I like/need, pretty much any weapon I may want with correct infusion... it's versatile, very much so. Still, if you want an easy mode - blasphemous blade and pest-thread spears will carry you through NG+whatever. Last night I killed Dragon-man in 3 charged heavy attacks on ng+7 using Fire Knight Greatsword, so it works even outside of just casting spells.
@@Synkhan Yeah. However, you do have to consider that the staff of loss has worse sorcery scaling than Lusats, So at 80 int, staff of loss is 7% stronger than lusats, and it dies not carry the FP penalty that lusats does. A cool thing is that staff of loss is very light, so it lets you wear heavier armor
I played this game after release and remember that Rock sling pretty much carried me through first 1/3 or half of game, just before more hitting spells like Comet shard become valid, great spell. And Terra magica plus Azur comet combo just melted so many bosses, good old times. Really solid list. Now that I beat dlc I think im gonna start second walkthrough, this time using faith build.
I hope they don't overnerf the Impenetrable Thorns spell. It's overtuned to the point of being cheese right, but just by removing the hitbox stacking and toning down the bleed buildup a bit it would already stay strong and in line with other options.
I really like that intelligence and faith get a very early game and close range spell that is able to bring them through the whole game. Feel like it lets those builds know they aren’t just forced to run and cast and that they can play the game either way while going those stats
I think ancient death rancor at late game is broken. I used it against Malenia and she was practically stunlocked for entire fight. You can use lusat staff and prince of death staff in other hand (with ng+ pod can actually be even better), and it just destroys enemies. Or, you can use bloodhound step ash of war in one hand, and staff in other, easily keeping the distance and bombarding enemy with death rancor
Ancient Death Rancor is practically my go-to spell for bosses. The damage output is sick. And now, I even have a complementary spell to use with it in Spectral Rings of Light in case I need something faster over the better tracking.
bro I think the new gravity spell is so op.. the one that pulls enemies towards it and then explodes. I noticed if you cast it on the floor it immediately explodes instead of doing the ''pulling in animation'' first AND knocks them back. always free kills when i invade or get invaded. they literally cant do nothing especially in narrow dungeon pathsi dont even feel ashamed everyone spams the ash of war of messmers spear or falx spammer, sword of night spammer. if they use 0 skill, I use less skill🤷♂
godfreys icon does not boost Fleeting Microcosm despite it being chargeable. alot of the new chargeable spells dont work with godfreys icon (likely bugged).
I did rock sling, blades of stone, meteorite spells only on all the bosses with no summon. Rock sling is almost too slow to cast in boss fight. Blue dancer charm can buff it but you need to have no armor. Arrow reach talisman works but it’s not necessary in boss fight.
I will always simp for Adulas Moonblade. Not because it is strong or has good frost buildup. But because it looks cool! Also, the shape of the spell and its properties all add up to a spell larger then each component. A large frontal cone that deals a lot of close range damage, and a good mid range option all in one is good against crowds, Zamor Icestorm might be better at closer range and deal more damage and frost buildup. But Moonblade just has the better shape, and if you are surrounded by enemies, you have larger problems then not enough frost buildup. Its better to catch a crowd in front of you then around you.
I'm running a build with 60 arcane, 25 faith and 10 intelligence. Poison mist on a bleed bloodfiend's arm, mushroom crown, offhand poison hand with rot and poison boost talismans running dragon communion seal and the albinauric staff exclusively to use impenetrable thorns. Even at the minimum faith and int, and arcane at only 60, this is my strongest spell and it costs essentially nothing from the rest of my build to run besides the weight of the staff. Think it nearly matches more optimized int arcane builds using thorns if I take a moment to poison myself before a fight and cast golden vow. Highly recommend and when thorns gets nerfed into the ground it's still otherwise a totally excellent build that you won't have to respec from. Just remove the staff and focus on incantations and your poison bleed weapon.
Finally Ranni's Dark Moon and Zamor's Icestorm are getting the recognition they deserve. Zamor's is the best AOE spell imo, there's barely any window between casts for the enemies to attack, plus it deflects small physical projectiles.
I love carian piercer. Its not the best in the world but that and adula’s moonblade help fulfill the carian knight aesthetic which is so clean alongside a magic claymore with carian sovereignty
Gravitational missile is better than fleeting microcosm imo. It has less range but it’s way easier to spam by just shooting at the ground and it has a bigger aoe.
Cheers Youwy! Appreciate your hard work and diligence, per always. For me it’s Vaati, Zio, Chase and Youwy, always, for the win as best Souls-like druid content creators. Maybe Fightin’Cowboy too when he’s not saying things that hit my que*r ears as problematic. Keep up the stellar work homie.
I got lazy and called forth my mimic tear to do double Impenetrable Thorn against PC Radahn. It almost felt like we were bullying him lol. After that I rarely used it because it is absurdly broken. But it can be your go-to if an enemy really pisses you off or makes you struggle and you just want it to die instantly, as long as they're not immune to bleed.
Great video! I think gravity missile beats microcosm since it has utility and can be instant exploded when to collides with the ground/walls, but both seem great. I heard but haven’t tested that, microcosm wins out with 40extra damage or something.
Shard spiral is absurd, even the small enemies the damage is comparable to night comet or comet for a lot less FP but multi hits so can shred groups of small enemies. It’s just slow that makes it less optimal for small enemies. And obviously huge enemies stand no chance, and since if you attack quick enough it’ll show you the number of added up damage I got as high as 100k on a furnace golem. If I was in charge of balancing I’d want to try increasing the FP cost a lot but make the spell a lot faster all around as compensation. A sort of magic Gatling gun at that point, imagine how sick it’d be if it chain cast it quick and use the unlimited FP tear. Super fun but probably would end up more OP than unlimited FP comet azur
I feel like people underrate comet azur. I carry it around to use w/o hidden tear and it's fine. Sometimes you don't mind spending a bar of fp to just (half) kill something either thru shield or just bc you don't really want to deal with it, esp since if you get hit once that'll take a crimson flask to heal up anyways. Things with shields, mini bosses standing around, that 1 fireknight on the narrow walkway, tree spirits, even crucible knights in the base game etc. Just blast a full fp bar their way. What else were you going to carry anyways?
I agree with most of the list but I do think that meteorite of astel in 99% of cases out performs comet azur (and you can use it for the albunauric rune farm)
All these are well and good, but my guiding moonlight that has been with me all along....Ancient Death Rancor. Honorable mention for me cause it never misses, insane poise damage, and npcs can't dodge it. Does it all for me.
would you do a pvp video like best stuff overall for pvp? especially invasions but invading seems unpopular in this game so won’t hold my breath for that
Comet Azur was #1 for a while for me based on my vid but, I found Thorns in time to beat Consort in my video. Damage is supreme. Use it before it gets nerfed.
I’m rune level 200 in NG+2 on my main character and just made a 40 strength/40 dex/60 faith build with just enough int and arcane to use Discus of Light and some Dragon Communion spells but this video just makes me want to try an intelligence build again lol
Surprised to see no mention of Myriam's vanishing this shit is so absurdly fast, lagless and great I frames, basically pre nerf BHS for mages (and looks so cool )
Those still cost 10 faith. There are weak versions which gives 35% protection, and then there are the more costly, higher faith requirement buffs, which gives 60% reduction
I would actually disagree upon placing Fleeting Microcosm instead of Gravitational Missile on this list. In my testing the latter just deals more damage even without any buffs (and gravity staff outdoes even both maternal staff + finger robe) with the same investment, consumes less fp with having less requirements, and has more versatility in ways it can be used in casting, with insta-explosion while cast into the ground, plus in has those smaller staggers which open windows for other spells. The things that are obviously worse are delay before the final explosion being much longer on missile (somewhat countered by ability to insta-proc) and range is just not on par, here microcosm is just better. But overall I prefer the missile.
Hey youwy where would u rank ancien death rancor in terms of good decent or bad, that spell carried me thru alot of the dlc, unless it got nerfed but it virtually made fire knights not an issue for me and it would stagger bosses also
where's gravitational missile its just a better version of fleeting microcosm also blades of stone is just a better rock sling, takes about the same time to cast but does more damage and does pure physical damage
@@youwy you can cast gravitational missile towards the ground to explode it immediately, forfeiting its delay, it does more poise damage, and it does a majority of its damage in 1 whole hit meaning enemies cannot avoid it as easily as fleeting microcosm i can get calling blades of stone worse than rock sling due to it being way more easily cancelled, but it definitely does a whole lot more damage and its easier to land on the bosses that its really good against, like rennala.
1:46 I still see many casters using this spaming over and over again with terra magica on few bosses, it's crazy. They only really use like 3 spells and nothing more...
If you're looking for an enemy that doesn't care about the Impenetrable Thorns at all, just mess around the Furnace Golems. It doesn't do a thing to them.
As a blood mage main, the DLC really upped the anti. Aberrant spells got a great spell, dragon communion got some neat toys, and blood oath got... anyway, Arcane casters are eating good.
something to note is that night comet deals way more dmg than what u showed if u have 2 staffs of loss on right and left , they stack reaching like 64% more damage. try it . its so stupid
I hope they won't nerf Impenetrable Thorns. I always wanted to have another Dark Bead in Elden Ring. Dark Bead was a much better spell than Impenetrable Thorns btw. and they never nerfed it.
Can you explain that? It’s killing me, I heard him say it and was super confused like since when is “cos” a valid pronunciation. It sounds like orphan of kos but idt that’s the joke
@@monhi64 yep! Kos is a "great one" in bloodborne. The boss micolash has a line where he yells "Kos, or some say Kosm, do you hear our prayers??" You can hear the line allot as you chase him around the boss area so it stuck in lots of our heads haha
The better no nerf the thorns. If they do it’s gonna go from great to dog shit. They aren’t that good at balancing. I also see no point in nerfing it because it’s not a bug, it’s not that good in pvp, and you can just not use it in pve if you don’t want to.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Why are you going int faith? you can still go pure int, get howl of shabriri and golden vow so you end up with 33 faith, and blast people with lusats
Even if Impenetrable Thorns gets nerfed I still hope it remains the best sorcery in the game, it should be since you get it relatively late in the DLC.
3:59 that was pretty good ngl
Poor omen got thrown into a magical washing machine
😂😂😂 I love that he always refers to other soulsborne games but we will miss it easily
3:59 got possessed by Micolash for a sec 😂
Ranni's Dark Moon also counters Radahns purple meteor shower move. When he flies, cast dark moon and those rocks will disappear.
Wait. It can do that?
Mother-F---, I could have stood to know that a LOT SOONER!
Hooly shit nice.
Damn....why does Ranni's Dark Moon deflect better than that stupid piece of shit, can't be bothered to wake up in the morning and be a contributing member of society, poor excuse for a black hole substitute? Sometimes I don't understand FromSofts balancing.
Edit: You know exactly what spell I'm talking about. Don't pretend you don't.
@@LonePhantom756Rocks created by Stone of Gurranq and Rock Sling count as magical projectiles and thus can be parried with Carian Retaliation or deleted entirely with Full-Moon spells.
@@gunsevenwhillans420 Interesting. And would that hold true for other magical projectiles used by certain bosses, like Rellana's glintblade trio?
I wouldn’t be the Elden Ring player I am today without Youwy. W video from a w creator.
Eh you wouldn’t e who you are today without a meme you saw 3 days ago either
Nor would you be who you are tomorrow without reading this reply everything that happens just eventually shaped out who you become not really anything significant just a normal everyday occurrence
@@the_jingoYou are either trying to be funny or intelligent, of which you are neither. Usually when someone says “I wouldn’t be the ___ I am today without (person)”, it is implied that the individual was influenced enough by that outside factor that it warranted a show of praise. If you could pick up on basic social cues, which I highly doubt due to your insufferable comment, you would realize that your comment was completely irrelevant and extremely pretentious.
@@the_jingoPeople who nitpick everything and actively ignore subtext just to “correct” others are not fun people. They are annoying, and I would recommend you stop posting these types of comments if you have any respect.
@@funnynickname4005 is my job to entertain you? No I’m not required to be fun if you do not wish to read such comment then I suggest you not reading any comments
@@the_jingo Actual basement dweller
Fleeting microkos, or some say kosm!🤣
"Some say"
"Some" meaning people who can pronounce words correctly lol
@@Xuhtig It was a Bloodborne reference
Ahhh thank you. I was so lost. @@MrBonQuiQui-zv1wr
@@Xuhtig You don't have enough insight.
Fine. I'll replay bloodborne for the 100th time
Imagine Miquella's face when he found his promised consort got slashed into pieces with a spell that cost 4 fp LOL
Grant us eyes 3:59
every reference to bb gives so much pain cause of sony's decision
GRANT US EYES... to cleanse our basely idiocy
A hunter is still a hunter, even in a dream...
I don't understand. What are you talking about?
@@drexalte69Bloodborne reference, responding to Youwy’s Bloodborne reference. They’re both quotes from a character named Micolash
Impenetrable Thorns can be used with Endure or Grafted sword, swap Alberich helm & pants for some heavier armor... And its auto win.
It does suck vs human sized enemies, because it always misses in melee, but everything else instantly melts.
Steve was so badass during the carian slicer section for absolutely no reason
Whose steve
steven@@rodo1252
The best sorcery being a spell that doesn't even require intelligence lol
Faith really got a lot of love in ER compared to Int
get real, basically all incantations in the dlc were ass
@@bigdaddysus8638 Nice try but no. Only a few incantations are bad in the DLC.
It needed it honestly, Int stuff dominated the Souls games and to get anything decent for incantations you usually had to do some ridiculously annoying quests 😂
@@paulodelima5705 do we watch the same youtuber bro? do we play the same game bro? you are crazy
@@CZProductions i dont know about that now
Seeing Night Comet FINALLY be dethroned feels weird even if the spell beating it does so by MILES.
i'm so happy that fleeting microcosm is good. it's such a badass spell man. i love the cosmic flavored stuff
BUFF ELDEN STARS DAMNIT
elden stars already slaps against the deathbirds tho ngl
@@adawg3032 wow the endgame spell from the final boss of the base game is just ok against one midboss. Very useful.
@@adawg3032 try holy pot
Honestly Carian Slicer could just be #1 at this point just based on fun factor. It is so quick, it feels almost like using a dagger where you can attack in between combos, which leads to a far more aggressive and fun play style. And it's the only sorcery that really lends itself to this style
Sure, if said dagger did more damage than a colossal sword charge r2 per hit
you can deal much more DPS with weapons though, while also having hyperarmor.
And in terms of strength, nothing comes even close to Impenetrable Thorns, thats not just best sorcery, thats strongest thing in the game by far.
Carian slicer is fun with the sorcery sword love running attack with the slicer into a poke
Yeah because nothing says fun mage gameplay like slashing a dagger 🙄
I wish the Sorcery Sword blade would register as a hit in addition to Carian Slicer's blade... Blue Flame used to do that.
Ah Microcos, or some say Microcosm, do you hear our prayers?
As you once did for the master Azur, grant us damage, grant us damage.
Cleanse us of our low intelligence builds
(Laughs feverishly)
Fleeting Micro doesn’t just spawn under the player, it can spawn under enemies around 25-30 linear feet away and can be used on enemies below you while you’re on a ledge.
Watch Thorns go from busted to useless overnight...
I thought it already got nerfed
Good, it's so cancerous in PvP
good
yup
Night Comet is still #1 in my heart but wow those thorns are fucking absurd
it will definitely be nerfed. but it sucks that a spell requires faith and scales with fucking arcane lol
Very good list! Only thing I disagree is about Adula's Moonblade. It has very good range on the projectile, stunlocks most smaller enemies, and comes out really fast, so it's spammable, almost Carian Slicer level (at a higher cost). The damage is very high, and I feel like it's safer to use than Zamor Ice Storm. Especially in the DLC, where enemies are crazy aggressive.
Adula's is just crazy. The best part is that, because it's just a bit slower than Carian Slicer, it gives enemies a bit of time to reach you, but not enough to attack you. So they get within range of the full damage, but while still being stunlocked
I might put Dark Moon a bit higher due to its use as an additional evasive option. Being able to evade and attack while punishing is hugely valuable against the DLC bosses, especially because those scenarios (twin moon, consort meteors, PK's fire, dancing lions breath + spins) wouldn't allow for a strong punish. There aren’t as many windows for big punishes, but with dark/full moon you can make those windows happen where they normally wouldn't.
I'd probably swap it and microcosm (in my experience enemies usually move after taking the first instance of damage).
Great list!
Dark Moon is awesome because:
- applies magic defense down 10%
- applies frost, which when full puts all defense down another 10%
- hits kinda hard
- tracks very well, and far
- the part where you're a moon is a basically an evade AND counter
It helped in my vid against Malenia and was my primary way to beat Sludge Horse.
I appreciate the consistency youwy, always waiting on your uploads 😁
99 int. Frost Hat w Ranni’s Moon chunkssss. Try this combo for fun too it creates some of the coolest visuals & hit for a lotttt of damage. Founding Rain of Stars(for protection) into Ranni’s Moon, Flame of the FellGod, Gravitational Missile, & then Fleeting Microcosm. It feels like you’re controlling all the Elements
3:59 goood one
Thanks. These are really high quality for how quickly you make them. Would really appreciate the current top of all catalysts at different int/fth levels and for split builds. For me that's still by far the hardest thing to figure out just from the visible stats as i plan a build.
Longtime occasional viewer who became a subscribed regular viewer after the dlc released here: i've really been enjoying all your new ranking lists! I appreciate how you don't waste time and always get a chuckle whenever there's a surprise joke or two. Thank you for all your hard work!!! ❤
Not gonna lie, switching from INT build I used up until NG+6 - I gotta say FTH is so much better it's not even funny... the only thing I miss is the Carian Greatsword thingy.
What's your build now? I have been INT for NG+1 and +2. Now in +3 and thinking I might try FTH. Currently I use cold infused milady and backhand blades with pretty much the spells shown in this video.
yes fth is better if you want some versatility and utility but for pure damage/pragmatic gameplay int is better .
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Pure damage? Pest-thread Spears & Ancient Dragons' Lightning Strike outdamage pretty much anything INT can pull off on bigger bosses.
On smaller bosses you can just use Catch Flame and it does similar if not better damage than Carian Slicer.
As for ranged single target option, Royal Lightning Spear & Frenzied Burst are here to help, although it's hard to do better ranged single target damage than dual staff of loss night coment spam, so there is that.
Don't get me started on weapon options because most if not all are outclasses by just spamming blasphemous blade weapon art.
Don't' get me wrong, INT is very, very good, I had no issues with it for the most part - it's just that FTH has a different answer to everything... meanwhile INT usually ends up just spamming night comet since it's the most safe and efficient.
@@faytelan I'm using 25 str / 18 int / 80 fth right now.
Any FTH spells I like/need, pretty much any weapon I may want with correct infusion... it's versatile, very much so.
Still, if you want an easy mode - blasphemous blade and pest-thread spears will carry you through NG+whatever.
Last night I killed Dragon-man in 3 charged heavy attacks on ng+7 using Fire Knight Greatsword, so it works even outside of just casting spells.
skillissue
Night Comet is even better than made out in this vid because that 30% buff can be stacked TWICE in NG+. It's the highest buff any comet spell can get.
Youre telling me 2 staff of loss = 60% buff on top of everything?? Thats insane...
@@Synkhan no, 69%. 1.3*1.3= 1.69 roughly
@@spongbobsquarepants3922 So even more damage then, even better!
@@Synkhan Yeah. However, you do have to consider that the staff of loss has worse sorcery scaling than Lusats, So at 80 int, staff of loss is 7% stronger than lusats, and it dies not carry the FP penalty that lusats does. A cool thing is that staff of loss is very light, so it lets you wear heavier armor
In NG+ you are better of with PoDS in main and Staff of Loss in of hand. You will get better results.
I played this game after release and remember that Rock sling pretty much carried me through first 1/3 or half of game, just before more hitting spells like Comet shard become valid, great spell. And Terra magica plus Azur comet combo just melted so many bosses, good old times.
Really solid list. Now that I beat dlc I think im gonna start second walkthrough, this time using faith build.
I hope they don't overnerf the Impenetrable Thorns spell. It's overtuned to the point of being cheese right, but just by removing the hitbox stacking and toning down the bleed buildup a bit it would already stay strong and in line with other options.
I really like that intelligence and faith get a very early game and close range spell that is able to bring them through the whole game. Feel like it lets those builds know they aren’t just forced to run and cast and that they can play the game either way while going those stats
Cool list! Unfortunately my 99 strength character is too stupid to use any of these
99? So many wasted points it hurts
@@medi6892 it’s a joke lmao
reminds me of Brandon sanderson's build.
@@t.t6294 LMAO yeah who thought the guy behind all those complicated maig systems would advocate for full bonk
My favorite Elden ring content creator. I can just tell you put a lot of hours into the game and know what you are talking about.
4:02 loved the bloodborne reference :)))
I think ancient death rancor at late game is broken. I used it against Malenia and she was practically stunlocked for entire fight. You can use lusat staff and prince of death staff in other hand (with ng+ pod can actually be even better), and it just destroys enemies. Or, you can use bloodhound step ash of war in one hand, and staff in other, easily keeping the distance and bombarding enemy with death rancor
Ancient Death Rancor is practically my go-to spell for bosses. The damage output is sick. And now, I even have a complementary spell to use with it in Spectral Rings of Light in case I need something faster over the better tracking.
@@Folutu ow, good idea, need to try it myself)
i love your videos, always so informative with good contextual gameplay footage in the background.
Fine I’ll try finishing a play through with an INT build. Thanks for the helpful tips Youwy 🫶🏼
bro I think the new gravity spell is so op.. the one that pulls enemies towards it and then explodes.
I noticed if you cast it on the floor it immediately explodes instead of doing the ''pulling in animation'' first AND knocks them back. always free kills when i invade or get invaded. they literally cant do nothing especially in narrow dungeon pathsi dont even feel ashamed everyone spams the ash of war of messmers spear or falx spammer, sword of night spammer. if they use 0 skill, I use less skill🤷♂
In PVE Fleeting Microcosm is just better.
@@youwyHow so?Gravity missle is broken.
Yeah bad take. Gravity Missle is broken even in PvE
@@youwy i forgot u base it around pve
godfreys icon does not boost Fleeting Microcosm despite it being chargeable.
alot of the new chargeable spells dont work with godfreys icon (likely bugged).
Whoa I’ve heard about impenetrable thorns being ridiculous but I had to see it to believe it.
I did rock sling, blades of stone, meteorite spells only on all the bosses with no summon. Rock sling is almost too slow to cast in boss fight. Blue dancer charm can buff it but you need to have no armor. Arrow reach talisman works but it’s not necessary in boss fight.
Gravitational Missile and Miriam's vanishing are goated for PVP
Duuuude look at this channels growth. Proof that being consistent pays off.
I will always simp for Adulas Moonblade.
Not because it is strong or has good frost buildup.
But because it looks cool!
Also, the shape of the spell and its properties all add up to a spell larger then each component.
A large frontal cone that deals a lot of close range damage, and a good mid range option all in one is good against crowds, Zamor Icestorm might be better at closer range and deal more damage and frost buildup. But Moonblade just has the better shape, and if you are surrounded by enemies, you have larger problems then not enough frost buildup.
Its better to catch a crowd in front of you then around you.
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I'm running a build with 60 arcane, 25 faith and 10 intelligence. Poison mist on a bleed bloodfiend's arm, mushroom crown, offhand poison hand with rot and poison boost talismans running dragon communion seal and the albinauric staff exclusively to use impenetrable thorns. Even at the minimum faith and int, and arcane at only 60, this is my strongest spell and it costs essentially nothing from the rest of my build to run besides the weight of the staff. Think it nearly matches more optimized int arcane builds using thorns if I take a moment to poison myself before a fight and cast golden vow. Highly recommend and when thorns gets nerfed into the ground it's still otherwise a totally excellent build that you won't have to respec from. Just remove the staff and focus on incantations and your poison bleed weapon.
Finally Ranni's Dark Moon and Zamor's Icestorm are getting the recognition they deserve. Zamor's is the best AOE spell imo, there's barely any window between casts for the enemies to attack, plus it deflects small physical projectiles.
I love carian piercer. Its not the best in the world but that and adula’s moonblade help fulfill the carian knight aesthetic which is so clean alongside a magic claymore with carian sovereignty
Gravitational missile is better than fleeting microcosm imo. It has less range but it’s way easier to spam by just shooting at the ground and it has a bigger aoe.
grav missile is similarly useful but has more flexibility, loses out on damage a bit, but also amazing for pvp too which Microcosm isn't
Cheers Youwy! Appreciate your hard work and diligence, per always.
For me it’s Vaati, Zio, Chase and Youwy, always, for the win as best Souls-like druid content creators. Maybe Fightin’Cowboy too when he’s not saying things that hit my que*r ears as problematic.
Keep up the stellar work homie.
I got lazy and called forth my mimic tear to do double Impenetrable Thorn against PC Radahn. It almost felt like we were bullying him lol. After that I rarely used it because it is absurdly broken. But it can be your go-to if an enemy really pisses you off or makes you struggle and you just want it to die instantly, as long as they're not immune to bleed.
Great video!
I think gravity missile beats microcosm since it has utility and can be instant exploded when to collides with the ground/walls, but both seem great. I heard but haven’t tested that, microcosm wins out with 40extra damage or something.
Fleeting Microcosm may be the most beautiful spell in any Souls game
Great vid. Are you going to update recommendations for rememberances, like choices and what to dup.? Thanks man.
Shard spiral was the MVP my first playthrough of the dlc with my magic character.
Shard spiral is absurd, even the small enemies the damage is comparable to night comet or comet for a lot less FP but multi hits so can shred groups of small enemies. It’s just slow that makes it less optimal for small enemies. And obviously huge enemies stand no chance, and since if you attack quick enough it’ll show you the number of added up damage I got as high as 100k on a furnace golem. If I was in charge of balancing I’d want to try increasing the FP cost a lot but make the spell a lot faster all around as compensation. A sort of magic Gatling gun at that point, imagine how sick it’d be if it chain cast it quick and use the unlimited FP tear. Super fun but probably would end up more OP than unlimited FP comet azur
I feel like people underrate comet azur. I carry it around to use w/o hidden tear and it's fine. Sometimes you don't mind spending a bar of fp to just (half) kill something either thru shield or just bc you don't really want to deal with it, esp since if you get hit once that'll take a crimson flask to heal up anyways.
Things with shields, mini bosses standing around, that 1 fireknight on the narrow walkway, tree spirits, even crucible knights in the base game etc. Just blast a full fp bar their way. What else were you going to carry anyways?
I just hope Impenetrable Thorns dont become totally useless when the nerf hits. There's already a lot of useless incantantions and spells
I agree with most of the list but I do think that meteorite of astel in 99% of cases out performs comet azur (and you can use it for the albunauric rune farm)
Yeah, that Fleeting Microcos or Cosm joke earned my like and sub.
Appreciate the constant quality uploads
All these are well and good, but my guiding moonlight that has been with me all along....Ancient Death Rancor. Honorable mention for me cause it never misses, insane poise damage, and npcs can't dodge it. Does it all for me.
would you do a pvp video like best stuff overall for pvp? especially invasions but invading seems unpopular in this game so won’t hold my breath for that
I don't think youwy does any pvp or cares for it much. Scott Jund has good rankings that focus on invasions :)
@@calebcantreid ty!
Comet Azur was #1 for a while for me based on my vid but, I found Thorns in time to beat Consort in my video. Damage is supreme. Use it before it gets nerfed.
I’m rune level 200 in NG+2 on my main character and just made a 40 strength/40 dex/60 faith build with just enough int and arcane to use Discus of Light and some Dragon Communion spells but this video just makes me want to try an intelligence build again lol
Surprised to see no mention of Myriam's vanishing this shit is so absurdly fast, lagless and great I frames, basically pre nerf BHS for mages (and looks so cool )
Youwny you are a hero. Remember that snow witch hat boost frost spells for 10%
Youwy the fortification incantation you talked about yesterday no longer require only 10 faith, they require alot more
Those still cost 10 faith. There are weak versions which gives 35% protection, and then there are the more costly, higher faith requirement buffs, which gives 60% reduction
I would actually disagree upon placing Fleeting Microcosm instead of Gravitational Missile on this list.
In my testing the latter just deals more damage even without any buffs (and gravity staff outdoes even both maternal staff + finger robe) with the same investment, consumes less fp with having less requirements, and has more versatility in ways it can be used in casting, with insta-explosion while cast into the ground, plus in has those smaller staggers which open windows for other spells.
The things that are obviously worse are delay before the final explosion being much longer on missile (somewhat countered by ability to insta-proc) and range is just not on par, here microcosm is just better. But overall I prefer the missile.
Hey youwy where would u rank ancien death rancor in terms of good decent or bad, that spell carried me thru alot of the dlc, unless it got nerfed but it virtually made fire knights not an issue for me and it would stagger bosses also
"Fleeting Microcos... or some say Microkosm" lmao, Youwy is in his prime right now
What are your thoughts on a rework for sleep and madness maybe even all status effects. ❤❤❤❤
where's gravitational missile its just a better version of fleeting microcosm
also blades of stone is just a better rock sling, takes about the same time to cast but does more damage and does pure physical damage
It’s actually worse by a decent margin
@@youwy you can cast gravitational missile towards the ground to explode it immediately, forfeiting its delay, it does more poise damage, and it does a majority of its damage in 1 whole hit meaning enemies cannot avoid it as easily as fleeting microcosm
i can get calling blades of stone worse than rock sling due to it being way more easily cancelled, but it definitely does a whole lot more damage and its easier to land on the bosses that its really good against, like rennala.
random question but what are the sliders for your character lol its hilarious
1:46 I still see many casters using this spaming over and over again with terra magica on few bosses, it's crazy. They only really use like 3 spells and nothing more...
Can't believe i played for so long and didn't found out night comet or spiral were that good, nice advice
i defeated consort radhan using the night comet xd i also also used moonveil with the carian regal scepter
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 def gonna use it on my next run
Been doing adullas moonblade us rannisdark moon build and it’s so so good. Moonblade should be on the list
If you're looking for an enemy that doesn't care about the Impenetrable Thorns at all, just mess around the Furnace Golems. It doesn't do a thing to them.
True. Furnace Golems require such a different approach that tier lists would be turned upside down and backwards for what's good just against them.
Just use pest threads and you are good
@@gabrielfernandes7370 It helps that impenetrable thorns is very efficient stat point wise on a pure faith build, so you have the option of both.
Surprised you didn't mention gravitational missile. It's THE best close range nuke for sorcerer's, and the cast time is ludicrous
That Micolash reference was good 😂
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Love your stuff bro ❤
Microcosm has to be one of the top 3 spells in all souls games if not one it's such a cool spell glad it's actually viable too.
As a blood mage main, the DLC really upped the anti. Aberrant spells got a great spell, dragon communion got some neat toys, and blood oath got... anyway, Arcane casters are eating good.
Replace Zamor Ice Storm with Ranni's + Freezing Pot and you get the frostbite debuff plus moon debuff.
something to note is that night comet deals way more dmg than what u showed if u have 2 staffs of loss on right and left , they stack reaching like 64% more damage. try it . its so stupid
I hope they won't nerf Impenetrable Thorns. I always wanted to have another Dark Bead in Elden Ring. Dark Bead was a much better spell than Impenetrable Thorns btw. and they never nerfed it.
A frost exultation talisman would’ve been sick
Ooooh majestic! A hunter is a hunter, even in Elden Thing.
Ok but when are you gonna rank the bear communion incantations?
I think we all knew what #1 was going to be right away
Appreciate the "cos, or some say cosm" joke 😂
Can you explain that? It’s killing me, I heard him say it and was super confused like since when is “cos” a valid pronunciation. It sounds like orphan of kos but idt that’s the joke
@@monhi64 yep! Kos is a "great one" in bloodborne. The boss micolash has a line where he yells "Kos, or some say Kosm, do you hear our prayers??" You can hear the line allot as you chase him around the boss area so it stuck in lots of our heads haha
4:00 a hunter is a hunter even in the lands between!!
The better no nerf the thorns. If they do it’s gonna go from great to dog shit. They aren’t that good at balancing. I also see no point in nerfing it because it’s not a bug, it’s not that good in pvp, and you can just not use it in pve if you don’t want to.
There's actually a bug where godfrey's icon doesn't buff a lot of dlc spells like microcosm
can you do a level 1 run top useful new items? I could really use that
“Or some say microcosm.” 😂😂
Nice bloodborne reference for fleeting microcosm
is the rykard remembrance spell still good? i remember it being able to multi hit on larger enemies
It has its uses but outside of some niche situations it’s meh. It’s good against large targets weak to fire like the ulcerated tree spirit
it is better now since you can use it with the steaff of the great beyond at 61 int/fth is also bosted by the talisman of the dread .
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Why are you going int faith? you can still go pure int, get howl of shabriri and golden vow so you end up with 33 faith, and blast people with lusats
Where do you get fleeting microcosm?
Even if Impenetrable Thorns gets nerfed I still hope it remains the best sorcery in the game, it should be since you get it relatively late in the DLC.
Now then, which is better: Terra Magicka, or Flame Grant Me Strength?
I wonder if he'll do another build ranking video
Nights comet or knights lightning spear?