Shadow of the Erdtree - New Best HIGHEST DAMAGE Sorcery in Game Tier List Ranked Guide - Elden Ring!

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  • @KindDmoN
    @KindDmoN 4 місяці тому +29

    Rannis dark moon should be higher given it also applies a giant chunk of frost buildup double dipping into a debuff from the spell itself and the extra damage from a frosted enemies

    • @SD-kx9jj
      @SD-kx9jj 4 місяці тому +1

      and it has when you are in the moon

    • @Digbigbombig
      @Digbigbombig 3 місяці тому

      My thoughts exactly, literally a better version of renallas full moon with a lower int requirement since the main purpose as he mentioned is to debuff.

  • @samboistedu93
    @samboistedu93 4 місяці тому +5

    One additional tip for for carian slicer :
    all successive attack talismans work with it !

  • @someguyperson
    @someguyperson 4 місяці тому +12

    Everyone has been sleeping on Ancient Death Rancor far too much. I used that single spell to beat just about every single enemy & boss in the DLC. You just cast it whenever you have an opening and then dodge the enemy until they die. It homes in on the enemy & the AI seems to not quite work with just how long this spell lasts in the air on the way to the target. It also gets a damage boost with the Prince of Death staff, which has the highest scaling potential of any staff when you get to 80 Int & 80 Faith. You really have to try it, it just melts bosses.

    • @SD-kx9jj
      @SD-kx9jj 4 місяці тому +2

      Ancient Death Rancor is a nasty spell and has a good stance damage every single hits.

    • @lacasadelorobarcelona4621
      @lacasadelorobarcelona4621 4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed. It is very useful against small humanoid enemies due to the staggering on every hit. I dont use it that much against big ones though.

    • @premeviews
      @premeviews 3 місяці тому

      You not lying at all. People really be sleep on it. It hits heavy and staggers

    • @premeviews
      @premeviews 3 місяці тому

      ​@@lacasadelorobarcelona4621staggers big emenies

    • @amadhollow635
      @amadhollow635 3 місяці тому +1

      No one can afford the stat spread for it. Even just to cast it, much less to use the death staff.
      I’ve been trying to make it work since launch. Sure you have plenty of fp to win a fight, but that’s not saying much, and in pvp it’s useless unless you’re using all the homing spells and the omen charm.
      And at that point just feed yourself to rykard because that’s his gimic

  • @Not____Applicable
    @Not____Applicable 4 місяці тому +10

    Adulas moonblade should be here in S. Great frost buildup, not too slow to cast, fires a midrange projectile slash and has stance damage. I use it after a rannis dark moon all the time.

    • @GR8Trollio
      @GR8Trollio Місяць тому

      It also hits through walls so if you suspect an ambush, it’ll delete the problem

  • @afrokoku-jin5161
    @afrokoku-jin5161 4 місяці тому +2

    Shard spiral also makes quick work of the Furnace Golems. You can stun them before they can get any attacks off.

  • @labadier4510
    @labadier4510 4 місяці тому +3

    No one is talking about GRAVITATIONAL MISSILE but It's super good, if you cast it at your feet or against a wall it trigger the explosion without the pull part. The aoe is great, fast , it hit like a truck. In addition it makes humanoids fly so you can stunlock some bosses.

  • @johnmcwick1
    @johnmcwick1 4 місяці тому +3

    One additional tip for the rock sling.
    The enemy AI confuses the long casting time so they dodge well before the rocks are sent off. I’ve almost never seen an enemy dodge a rock sling intentionally. Perfect for enemy’s that dodge a lot.

  • @vanessaboyko1582
    @vanessaboyko1582 4 місяці тому +2

    I still relied heavily on Stars of Ruin and Adula’s Moonblade for my astrologer in the DLC. Found Stars of Ruin to still have better stagger damage, tracking and ranger than the new nails spells.

  • @cdchai
    @cdchai 4 місяці тому +2

    What's everyone's PvE loadout look like? Mine is:
    - Carian Phalanx
    - Glinstone Pebble
    - Shard Spiral
    - Night Comet
    - Rock Sling
    - Loretta's Greatbow
    - Adula's Moonblade
    - Stars of Ruin / Ranni's Dark Moon / Zamor Ice Storm
    - Terra Magica / Golden Vow
    - Blessing's Boon + Blue Dew Talisman = free 720HP, no flask usage while wandering around
    I've only found 3 of the new spells in the DLC but the only one I'm looking forward to is Blades of Stone. Glinstone Pebble is still putting in work being great dmg/fp and both Night Comet and Shard Spiral deal with everything in the DLC from humanoids to big bodies. Loretta's Greatbow is for sniping and Rock Sling for chucking rocks at crowds or just being a fairly wide spell with good area coverage. If you're exploring castles or dungeons just put Carian Phalanx up and never get ambushed again. Moonblade goes thru walls and is my close quarters spell. Stars of Ruin requires only 1 slot and can be a boss killer. What's used in this and the other 2 slots depends on if I'm stuck on a boss. Blessing's Boon is on my rotation because of the Blue Dew Talisman as it's basically a free flask for 90 seconds of your time (costs 30FP but you get 45FP in the time it takes to heal). Golden Vow is good for horseback combat while Terra Magica is good for grounded combat, can always use them both if you wanted.
    I don't do PvP so don't have a loadout for that.

    • @TruelyDangerousGuy
      @TruelyDangerousGuy 4 місяці тому +2

      My usual build is : Ancient death rancor (after you intelligence get around 70+ it is a beastly spell ), Loretta Greatbow, Adula moonblade, ranni dark moon, carian slicer, night comet , optionally rock sling (it takes too long to cast). Recently I also started using ice spells mentioned in this video, with cold infused weapon, to get quick frostbite.

    • @TruelyDangerousGuy
      @TruelyDangerousGuy 4 місяці тому

      And yes golden vow for the boost

  • @Frostphorus-gg
    @Frostphorus-gg 4 місяці тому +10

    Feel like people are sleeping on multilayered rings. Long range stagger is great

  • @Griever_Plats2021
    @Griever_Plats2021 4 місяці тому +3

    Adulas moonblade still does good damage close range plus stagger damage and frost buildup, will always be s+ in my heart lol

    • @GR8Trollio
      @GR8Trollio Місяць тому

      You don’t need a UA-camr’s approval 😂 It’s one of the top tier spells and it’s always on me

  • @tengkuhafiz4174
    @tengkuhafiz4174 4 місяці тому +6

    Watching this while on my way to work hollow

  • @Realdrlipschitz
    @Realdrlipschitz 4 місяці тому +12

    Disappointed we didn’t get more sorceries/staves

    • @babGss
      @babGss 3 місяці тому

      Noob who uses magic😂

    • @Realdrlipschitz
      @Realdrlipschitz 3 місяці тому +4

      @@babGss the dude who cares🤣 but let’s watch a video on spells and then talk shit. Dork

    • @GassedFEIN
      @GassedFEIN 2 місяці тому

      I use intelligence too, the DLC is super disappointing with pure int builds. The best spell is a faith spell, a couple spells are nice, the vanish spell, glinstone nails, fleeting microgasm, renallas twin moons, only 4 good pure int spells, 0 pure int weapons that scale with int. Which sucks guess l’ll stick with moonlight great-sword, and moonville katana till hopefully a third expansion.

  • @ivanvoloder8114
    @ivanvoloder8114 26 днів тому

    I realy like the new Finger Sorceries, especialy the Glinstone Nails. Good dmg, can be charged, can be buffed with couple of items and has good poise damage.

  • @Alfreduss
    @Alfreduss 4 місяці тому +2

    I beat like 90% of the dlc with shard spiral sorcery, only with talisman and the potion for magic potion. Even radahn had no chance against it.

    • @chaosinfernoid9008
      @chaosinfernoid9008 4 місяці тому +1

      That sounds very sad tbh. 💀💀💀 How is such a hard hitting thing so spammable while other things are either utter trash or nerfed to the ground. ICANT.

  • @pupkid8613
    @pupkid8613 4 місяці тому

    Adula's Moonblade every time for me even though it's been nerfed somewhat - not as quick as Carian Slicer but hits hard + frost build up. Shard Spiral also super useful - made the Furnace Golems trivial too.

  • @MitsuDragonGel
    @MitsuDragonGel 4 місяці тому

    iv found gravity missile to be very usefull as a decently strong cc spell, may not be the best for bosses but for clearing out area's and hard to hit enemies it is a fun choice

  • @isaacwade7381
    @isaacwade7381 4 місяці тому

    I noticed this during your footage, but Magma Shot is spreading magma on a hit! If I remember properly, Magma Shot used to no spread magma if it collided with its target, meaning you can only get the magma if you intentionally spiked it into the ground. That makes it way more viable!

  • @Azg4l0R1
    @Azg4l0R1 4 місяці тому +3

    Ranni's dark moon dmg is not great? well you are not geared for it so ofc it doesnt do dmg, you can cast it 2 times before any boss does anything and thats 1/3 of its life gone. There is even a streamer who trivialized the dlc with this spell as did i. Dark moon and ancient rancor, and the Dancing lion, Rellana and Bayle died 1st try all the while i read comments about how hard they are.

  • @pengc6538
    @pengc6538 4 місяці тому +1

    Spiral is really good against furnace golems.

  • @grizzlytimes7299
    @grizzlytimes7299 4 місяці тому

    Fleeting microcosm is great for sneak kills because it doesn't aggro enemies until the explosion

  • @zacharyboswell5263
    @zacharyboswell5263 4 місяці тому

    I’ve been destroying people in PVP with Mass of Putresence and Vortex of Putresence. The fire can be hard to dodge and the damage is good in PVP

  • @joshyguerrilla
    @joshyguerrilla 4 місяці тому +2

    Comet and adulas moonblade are op. I'm sad to not see them here

    • @GR8Trollio
      @GR8Trollio Місяць тому

      He mentioned comet though😂 He was talking about how it’s a good stand on for Night Comet if you don’t have two staves of Loss

  • @TruelyDangerousGuy
    @TruelyDangerousGuy 4 місяці тому +2

    No Ancient death rancor? Come on! It should be at least A , as with high level it just destroys ar paralyze enemies. Also, meteorite of Astel have to be at least B tear. It is really nice option for big enemies. And, well Loretta Greatbow can easily be c rank, as it is perfect sniper spell with enough power and extremely long reach

    • @GR8Trollio
      @GR8Trollio Місяць тому +1

      Loretta’s Mastery is always on me, it’s a longer range delete key

  • @jakersni9499
    @jakersni9499 9 днів тому

    Night Comet has been my faithful friend.

  • @NeroNORirl
    @NeroNORirl 3 місяці тому

    Stars of Ruin and all spells like that also always hit npc mobs. if you want something different than night comet

  • @MFD00MTR33
    @MFD00MTR33 4 місяці тому +86

    Why are your thumbnails always misleading? The placement in the actual list is different and sometimes it even has something thats not even on the list? Is it just for click bait? I enjoy your videos, but things like that are kinda annoying

    • @felipeverdade10
      @felipeverdade10 4 місяці тому +5

      Agreed

    • @BeyondTrash-xe1vs
      @BeyondTrash-xe1vs 4 місяці тому +11

      The entire point is to watch the video lol.

    • @nam6282
      @nam6282 4 місяці тому +2

      It’s literally every single tier list video on any topic tbh. You’d be lucky to find any tier list video without a misleading thumbnail

    • @patjcoan
      @patjcoan 4 місяці тому +2

      Your kinda annoying

    • @christiannickell-pr9wb
      @christiannickell-pr9wb 4 місяці тому +1

      It’s just for click bIt

  • @GR8Trollio
    @GR8Trollio Місяць тому

    Interesting list. I’ve tried the thorn spell (after nerf) and it’s terrible, like all thorn spells. I tried using it on trash mobs and it literally did NO damage, because of a 0.5% incline. 😂 Just garbage and yes I’ve tried it on various bosses: no dice. It’s mid tier even if I’m buffing with full Albrecht’s armor and offhand Staff of the Guilty, casting with maxed Maternal staff. Overrated. Nerfed into oblivion. I’d rate it D tier at best because if there is ANY slight incline, the tracking is wrecked. I can’t afford that in a boss fight.
    Some of my favorites I’ve been using in the DLC:
    - Great Oracular Bubble (stance damage, splash damage, chargeable so biddable by Godfrey’s Icon)
    - Loretta’s Mastery
    - Adula’s Moonblade, easy S tier
    - Nightmaiden’s Mist (helped me delete the Mother of Fingers along with rot breath, Serpent’s Bow for deadly poison…add NMM and watch the HP drop)
    - Ancient Death Rancor
    - Explosive Ghostflame (goated)
    Oh, and a niche one:
    - Rockblaster (amazing stagger damage, stun lock effect, then explosion; deletes the Black Knights! Even the mounted ones cannot stand the “dentist drill”)

  • @jasondavis2945
    @jasondavis2945 3 місяці тому

    Comet Azure literally carried me through the DLC.

  • @jeraldwarwick1499
    @jeraldwarwick1499 4 місяці тому

    Thank you 😊

  • @zephn2245
    @zephn2245 4 місяці тому

    Really surprised to see glintstone nails lower than some of the others on this list, its fairly spammable and gets up to 24 stance damage in a category with few existing sources of stance damage, figured it'd be equal with rock sling. Tier lists are subjective though so i get it

    • @GR8Trollio
      @GR8Trollio Місяць тому

      The range is hot garbage.

  • @vanessaboyko1582
    @vanessaboyko1582 4 місяці тому

    Also, I think Eternal Darkness doesn’t get enough love - especially for some of this DLC’s bosses.

  • @AustinB415
    @AustinB415 3 місяці тому

    You can hit up to 4k with Rannis darkmoon and that’s before the frost.

  • @nori484
    @nori484 4 місяці тому +1

    What about crystal release?

  • @JMW10o0o
    @JMW10o0o Місяць тому

    What armor are you wearing?

  • @GunsGamesMonsters
    @GunsGamesMonsters 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome

  • @DarknessGu1deMe
    @DarknessGu1deMe 2 місяці тому

    0:07 what's this armor set?

  • @fkbuki
    @fkbuki 4 місяці тому

    Damn, sorcerer's really got shat on in this dlc

  • @noobteabag5795
    @noobteabag5795 4 місяці тому

    How are you always facing all the bosses without Ng+?

  • @VileHearts
    @VileHearts 4 місяці тому

    Does anyone know what the best stave to use is as a sorcerer? I'm doing a fresh magic build. Currently main handing carian regal scepter and I switch between meteor and staff of loss in my offhand depending on the type of magic I'm using. Any suggestions are much appreciated!

    • @paulogo3482
      @paulogo3482 3 місяці тому +1

      Carian
      Lusat (hits hard but cost more fp)
      Prince of death(strongest staff in game for ng+)
      Matanal (thorns)
      Great beyond (does incant)

    • @VileHearts
      @VileHearts 3 місяці тому

      @@paulogo3482 thank you! I haven't found prince of death yet but I'll be on the lookout for it

  • @kareemdida4417
    @kareemdida4417 4 місяці тому

    This is from your perspective and only you

  • @th3-jwalk3r43
    @th3-jwalk3r43 3 місяці тому

    No Explosive Ghostflame?

  • @brutallyhonestunfiltered
    @brutallyhonestunfiltered 3 місяці тому

    Welp we need a new video after this patch 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @dylanmartin6267
      @dylanmartin6267 3 місяці тому

      They didn't mess with spells and infants too much

    • @AndrewAung1992
      @AndrewAung1992 3 місяці тому

      Not really the only difference is Thorns is now A tier instead of S plus.

  • @riulbrintik5143
    @riulbrintik5143 4 місяці тому

    Death rancour... death staff

  • @amadhollow635
    @amadhollow635 3 місяці тому

    It’s sad that all of the legendary spells are garbage now
    Especially the ones that were already garbage like founding rain

  • @slaskiemocne
    @slaskiemocne 4 місяці тому

    ancient death rancor didnt even made this list? lol

  • @kierangillatt2892
    @kierangillatt2892 4 місяці тому +2

    Comet azur c 😂😂

    • @demiurge3153
      @demiurge3153 4 місяці тому

      I tried it against mohg on ng+5. Still deletes him

    • @JF-vz1ju
      @JF-vz1ju 4 місяці тому

      It's not a very good spell. All it's good for is memeing on the few bosses that don't get out of the way.

    • @scalu730
      @scalu730 4 місяці тому

      Any boss that moves a bit can dodge it, and there goes your entire FP bar.

  • @smittyDXPS3
    @smittyDXPS3 4 місяці тому +5

    - Any list without Adula's Moonblade is not an accurate list, it is hands down the best spell in the game with high damage and versatility, it can do pretty much everything.
    - Icecrag is a rather pointless, rarely good, awful spammable spell, just use Adula's Moonblade or Dark Moon instead.
    - Ranni's Dark Moon being that low is also just wrong, its one of the best spells for boss fights in the game.
    - Carian Slicer and Piecer are good, but there aren't many instances where they are better than Adula's Moonblade. Moonblade is just better.
    - Comet Azur should be higher than C teir, it's still a great spell for many bosses and tough enemies.
    - Sorry but Blades of Stone and Fleeting Microcasm are just terrible, inconsistent spells, I've tested them extensively and I have no idea how you can include them on this list, they don't seem to even hit the target 80% of the time.
    - Ancient Death Rancor is a far better spammable than Night Comet, despite its high requirements.
    - Explosive Ghostflame is far better than Ice Storm, it does more damage, lasts longer, has more range, and still applies Frostbite.

    • @TrilogyDavis
      @TrilogyDavis 4 місяці тому +1

      moonblasde helped me with melania

    • @chaosinfernoid9008
      @chaosinfernoid9008 4 місяці тому

      They nerved Adulas thoug. Back then it was super strong. Now it's just okay tbh. The New Bird Spell is much better for Frost after a Ranni Darkmoon. Comet Azur is very specific to Bosses i guess. Depends. Idk how such a boring Spell even ever existed it makes no sense. Rest i agree.
      Honestly i wanna make a Death Build i been thinking how to make it broken or what to use with Int and Faith. It's such a shame that the only weapons scaling on that have abilities that only scale with one or the other. Thanks Miyazaki. Not. I guess there are more Weapons now with Innate Faith that we can put to Int but im not sure what i can make of it in any capacity.

    • @smittyDXPS3
      @smittyDXPS3 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@chaosinfernoid9008 Doesn't really matter though, Adula's is still nuts, I hadn't even noticed the nerf. You don't just use Dark Moon for the frost though, it's the damage, range, and spell debuff it applies all together is hard to match. Azur is only okay now but it's still good I think.
      Death build is the best honestly, that 448 scaling on the death staff plus the 10% damage buff is cracked.

    • @chaosinfernoid9008
      @chaosinfernoid9008 4 місяці тому

      @@smittyDXPS3
      Pretty sure Adulas locks you in animation and for that high cost of 22 fp doesnt seem worth at all tbh when you can just use Glintstone Icecrag that you can spam even though its range is lower i believe. (For Aoe or Big Enemy Adula still can be okay i guess) Or you use the New Bird one called Rings of Spectral Light. For some reason its not boosted by Prince Death Staff, even though its a Death Sorcery fitting the Theme really well. Prolly Miyazaki just forgot... for the cost of a bit more then Glintstone Icecrag it has insane range almost infinite it seems, has a bit lower Frostbite but also even without a Boost to Death Sorcery deals crazy damage. The only thing i found also working with this is the Cepter of All Knowing since a Unique Debuff. But yea of course 2 Prince is crazy good. The Explosion doesnt seem worth it at all though just Rancor. i do have a ton of stats at my level cauz i overleveled for the dlc but i believe this finger talisman i also included makes this build deal together so much damage while beeing ultra fast no dex needed (except 18 for cepter) cauz of the talisman. i suppose its a classcanon. but aside from that and that i miss a weapon personaly i think its broken (literally) and has so much range. Ranni can also Dodge Stuff i read such as Magic. i really wanna make it even better.

    • @scalu730
      @scalu730 4 місяці тому

      There's no situation Ancient Death Rancor is better than Night Comet, specially because it's slow and multi projectiles are horrible in early game. Zamor Icestorm is the best AoE spell in the entire game, there's no window between casts for the enemy to attack, even when you only cast fully charged, while Explosive GF will lock you in an animation that leaves you vulnerable, knock back enemies and If they don't Step on the Ghostflame they'll not get frostbitten on the first cast, but Zamor's will. Also, the time you spend using one Adula'sMB you can use 2 slicers with 20% fp consumption of one Adula's, so slicer is far superior.

  • @I_mn9u
    @I_mn9u 3 місяці тому

    u sound like yura

  • @zachmiller4575
    @zachmiller4575 4 місяці тому

    Comment Azur is still S tier you just cant open with it at the start of the fight like you’re brain dead lol

  • @Thirstyplane55
    @Thirstyplane55 4 місяці тому

    This channel is so f’ing desperate with the thumbnails and the advice is rarely accurate. They’re just trying to suck every last drop of content out of the dlc. That being said. I do like the guys in video. Commentary is entertaining for me

  • @chaosinfernoid9008
    @chaosinfernoid9008 4 місяці тому +1

    Bro cant be serious, Ranni Moon in B and Terra and Ice Spell in S+ and S? Very funny. Also Zamor Range is Dogwater, im not sure if Hyperarmor is a thing now or not with it and theres better ways for Frost...
    Some of these dont even deserve a Top 15 Spot and those who do arent even on.

  • @gedoplanet
    @gedoplanet 4 місяці тому

    Ayo this list sucks!

  • @HailDarkseid
    @HailDarkseid 4 місяці тому +1

    Give us weapons and skills WITHOUT the 15 buffs . That’s why you get “new broken this /that & the 3rd” you’re using like 25 buffs. It’s crazy

    • @Shupao77
      @Shupao77 4 місяці тому +1

      R u newbie or what?

    • @pc574
      @pc574 4 місяці тому

      You should see the buff routine Titus uses

    • @HailDarkseid
      @HailDarkseid 4 місяці тому

      @@Shupao77 hOw old r u

    • @Shupao77
      @Shupao77 4 місяці тому +1

      @@HailDarkseid old enough to be ur daddy

  • @BoBoThePyro
    @BoBoThePyro 4 місяці тому

    Terrible list

  • @ZeNN.47
    @ZeNN.47 3 місяці тому

    How early can you get Rock Sling and the range damage and posture break it has I would call it THE best spell in the game. And one of my favourites also very good for posture break mage build.