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Fury's phone call with the president built up tension, then it was immediately released by his conversation with Varra. Having had time to think about it, I wish the convo with Varra had been a post-credits scene since it was basically just setting up the next part of the story.
For me I didn’t mind the former. From the beginning I could tell he was fully evil tbh, I wasn’t surprised when he started killing his allies. As Honest Trailers put it, usually Marvel or whoever will have their villains who have points do something really evil just to make sure you don’t agree with them and remove the nuance of them. But with Gravik he was fully genocidal from the start so killing his underlings was not a stretch, at least to me. And he also owned his genocidal ways, he didn’t try to say he was out for the betterment of everyone or anything.
I mentioned this on a different reaction vid but...Did the fight between Gravik and "Nick" not remind anyone else of that scene in What If? of Evil Hank Pym fighting "Nick"? Fury really likes the idea of a good Ol' switcheroo.
Imagine a few days later a small spaceship enters Earth's atmosphere and video starts transmitting of a very unamused-looking racoon in the cockpit with a growling dog behind him: "Now when you say 'off-world born species'..."
@@TboneUSA07 GotG Vol. 3 Spoilers!!! Did they confirm whether Rocket was born on Earth or not? If not, what was with that scene of Rocket freeing all of those baby raccoons from North America?
@@klimmr People seem to be assuming that those baby raccoons were born on Earth and are Rocket's siblings, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The High Evolutionary clearly visited Earth in the 80's and hasn't likely returned, and raccoons don't live more than a decade or two. It makes more sense that all the live animals on the ship are cloned from DNA samples collected on Earth and stored, so Rocket was technically born in the High Evolutionary's lab, but Earth is still his planet of origin in the sense that that's where his species evolved, and is where his individual genome was conceived.
I feel like this is the new marvel formula: 1. strong opening 2. make the character seem wise but old/frail 3. make the villains 1-dimensional somehow 4. let the supporting characters shine 5. nonsensical kaiju fight 6. insert sequel potential I'm not saying it can't work (it absolutely can) but don't just follow a checklist, have respect for your other IP's.
I really liked the parts of the show that covered Fury's past and his relationships, but the main plot about the modern-day Skrulls wanting war just didn't capture my interest the same way.
I thought the writing in She-Hulk was pretty smart as they were pretty accurately able to predict how people would feel about She-Hulk’s character even though other male hero’s such as Tony Stark have done way worse things then say things she doesn’t actually mean when she’s angry.
She-Hulk is my favorite show actually. The humor and 4th wall break and meta jokes were AMAZING and I really hope we get more because I looked forward to it every week!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I hate to be insulting but I'm going to insult you. If you think SH is better than WV or Loki you are better off watching the Minions franchise tbh
Super Skrulls are more like Kevin Eleven, when he first took on the hybrid monster form. They can't use all of the stolen powers as effectively as the original, their danger is in the diversity of the power kit.
@@TheJerbol comic Super Skrull usually uses Ben Grimms arm for his powers so I guess you have beef with Jack Kirby and Stan Lee LOL. (Don’t get me wrong. Baby drax arm looked fucking stupid and I hated it)
The thing is... GOT was bad for seasons, people just weren't willing to see it or listen to complaints: "No, no, everything will make sense in the end"... It's the exact same with Secret Invasion, it was bland, mediocre and badly written from the start.
@@allisonwoody24601Uh, were we watching the same show? I saw inconsistent and ridiculous character behavior, no tension, no thrills, and completely boring story writing. This show failed on every level. Not only was it terrible MCU but it was just flat out bad as any kind of show.
I see the using super skrull abilities, as part being intuitive. And part knowing what the characters are capable of. Gravik being the collector and working with fury likely had a base level idea of what they could do. His usage was more basic and straight forward mostly sticking to the bruisers. G'iah I think might have gotten a primer from fury giving her ideas of who can do what and why that might be useful and with that was more creative in her uses. I also expect if we see G'iah again that each individual power isn't as strong as the original. A little diluted , . So she has great variety but not as much raw power
If I had a nickel for every time Emilia Clarke was in a high budget finale for a huge franchise that was a complete and utter disappointment, I would have 2 nickels…which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
I think the issue is the finale is decent for what the show is, it just builds off 2 previous episodes that weren’t good and completely got rid of any of the interesting spy stuff from secret invasion. This finale wraps up the series well, it’s just the series is the issue. What a let down from the first 2 episodes
Im with Eric on this one. I dont regret watching it or anything and i enjoyed it while i did watch it. But its definitely mid tier stuff. Not everything gonna be the best shit out there. But the performances were still so god damn good here at least.
So, the Skrull compound was so Radioactive that G'hia had to really act sick to sell Nick as being there, and yet all the people the Skrulls were keeping in the basement were fine? All those people should be REAL sick.
I loved the part where Gravik just remained in a chokehold instead of using ghost's power to phase out. Also, ghost needs quantum energy to stabilize her condition temporarily. So, how does that work with G'iah? Is she dying or does the extremis heal her splitting cells.
Ever since Civil War, Rhodey has always had leg braces to walk for him in every appearance he's made, except this show. He couldn't walk after being freed because they took them away. He's also in a hospital gown because the Skrull impersonating him would've needed his clothes with all his accolades. He was replaced after Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
@@krishcharan He didn't really confirm anything, though. He basically said "he thinks" it was after Civil War, like it's just his opinion. Either way, I'm sure Armor Wars will answer this question. I would personally prefer it wasn't after Civil War since it would cheapen the end of his and Stark's friendship. Marvel can do some stupid things, but they're not THAT stupid.
I wonder if they will introduce the Skrull kill crew if they continue this story line in the MCU? They were people who ate hamburger meat made from Skrulls tricked into becoming cows by Mr. Fantastic. He then used a device to hypnotized them into thinking they were cows.
Because Rhodey has extensive physical issues and he probably needed to visit the hospital for a checkup after all that punishment during the end game fight. Would have been very possible to switch him out.
@@grimbane6092 fair point but he was in the hospital in civil war too but either way, i guess it might be worth going back and watching things after civil war, try spot when he stopped using a brace to walk but you made good points :)
@@ruks-yl4ut if you watch Endgame, Rhodey actually crawls like his legs aren't functioning after the Avengers HQ gets exploded by Thanos in the 3rd act.
I dont know how they came up with this finale AFTER mocking generic CGI fight finales in She-Hulk not long ago. Its like the irony is flying right over their heads.
she hulk and secret invasion were too close to eachother in release dates. I'm convinced they don't communicate between teams of two different shows, they don't know what's going on in an another project until its official release. as long as overall continuity is kept it's alright. if secret invasion and she hulk had a bigger gap maybe it would be in time to influence the writers
Yeah, every species born off-world... so that'd include; - The Skrulls. - Thor and the Asgardians, as well as any other species living with them (light elves, Kronans like Korg, etc). - Technically the Eternals? If people were made aware of them. - Almost all of the Guardians of the Galaxy and any of their friends, allies, and relatives. - Technically it might include Hulk's son Skaar? So yeah, if they actually decide to pursue this plot line going forward (rather than just in The Marvels), we might get a World War Hulk type storyline, a more serious Thor movie (Hemsworth said he wanted a swith-up to the character again if he's to come back), and ***GOTG3 SPOILERS BELOW*** Maybe even some sort of Star-Lord involvement? Plus of course if they go with a plot where anti-superhuman sentiment in general is rising, connected to the anti-alien stuff, it could lead directly into X-Men and their situation (we've already had some "mutant" namedrops).
If they made it 2 movies or 10-16eps it would be good such a bugger story than they made basically just a nick fury show Childs show avengers earth mightiest heroes done a much much better secret invasion
I can look past that skrulls are compatible with any alien there is, but how could they copy something like Carol Danvers' power which is Infinity-Stone-magic-mumbo-jumbo and not genetic. Where would they even get the energy? Or Ghost, whose power/disability is not cellular, it might as well function on atomic level or lower. I could get how they copy a sorcerer, as it's a skill that basically anyone could hypothetically acquire, but non-DNA-altering energy-infusion-thingamajigs that cannot be unlocked with just skill? Whatever, because comics. Like, even if they can replicate the effects of the Infinity Stone or the Quantum Realm, just "HOW?", and why is it not mentioned? It seems important enough as it has some huge implications like "could they copy all the Infinity Stones, if someone biological were to fuse with them?". AGHhh.!. Comics-mumbo-jumbo-baloney. I don't know whether or not MCU Carol has infinite supply of energy in her, but if Infinity Stones are literally infinite, then even the smallest fraction of their energy would be ..well at least a life supply.
I see this as a stepping stone to The Marvel's. I'm okay with the ending of the show since none of it really ends it just flows to the next. I enjoyed it and I enjoy y'all.
I was concerned when I heard that they were making this series for precisely the point made in the Rhodey discussion. A doppelgänger plot twist can work, but you have to make up for the fact that you are taking away from the original character. Maybe if we had an episode of fake Rhodey going through moments in time since they took it. I would have it that the longer they stay in one particular mask the Skrull begin to truly adopt that identity. Might help with Gravik’s frustration if living in disguise for so long on Earth is literally erasing his people’s own identity. Its just a shame because there’s potential work with ideas of individual and collective identity.
Just because Rhodey had stated that his last memories were of going into surgery, one shouldn't automatically assume he had been snatched and replaced since the end of "Civil War". This is impossible, especially since the series had made it clear that Gravik didn't set his plans in motion until sometime after the Blip, which occurred at the end of "Endgame". And chances are Rhodey was going into surgery some time after the events of "Endgame". C'mon people, think. As for the series itself, it didn't live up to my expectations, so I found it a little disappointing. But I still preferred it over the likes of "Loki", "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier", "Ms. Marvel" and "Moon Knight" - all of which I found very disappointing.
Eh, we don't know that yet. You don't think he has occasional checkups or medical examinations? The doctor examining him was probably the skrull that kidnapped him or something.
That was a big hole, and it eliminated all of Gravik's viscera as well as the solar plexus which controls all heart/lung functions, and a significant section of Gravik's thoracic and lumbar vertebrae. I do not think even Extremis can recover from that.
I feel like the President has no idea how terrifying humans are when they are scared and paranoid. Biggest bonehead play of all time right after Gravik putting the Skrulls in the world's crosshairs.
For a show called secret invasion… sure wasn’t any invasion like at all. I’ll never understand why they thought making solely nick fury the only person to “prevent” this invasion a thing… when he wasn’t even the person to actually stop anything 💀 such a rushed & fast paced waste of potential. Only interesting thing that came from this show was rhodey being a skrull and even THAT was pretty dumb. The mcu is getting so repetitive and boring and lack luster. It puzzles me that ppl Wait YEARS and hype up this stuff still. This universe died with endgame and tony
I was so hoping somehow for a Terrence Howard cameo, it would have been funny Also.. still miffed that in all of Fury's (and others) wisdom why did they put *everyone's* DNA in a single tiny vial? Also miffed at the middling Super fight... and just.. all the powers.. like Giah is now just the best option for any issue lol even if she isn't at powerful as the originals.. having like Hulk, Abomination, Cull Obsidian, etc. collective super strength at once should still be equal-ish lol and the other powers just make her even more effective.. like sure she can't fly as fast as Carol or has as powerful lasers but.. she has durability from other powers.. so she could last just as long to do the same amount of damage Gravik being killed so fast both is kinda refreshing not to have a dragged on fight but also.. for once.. the fight needed to be longer to show off various shifting to other powers lol If Rhodey has been trapped since Civil War (doubt personally) who.. is gonna fill him in on.. umm.. various deaths? Like Tony was his friend and he just woke up to not only it being.. how many years past what he thought but also he was impersonated and his friend is dead.. and has been for a bit And that doesn't even account for the various other randos who now have to learn their families were none the wiser they were replaced, how many parents missed their babies first steps and words? How many people are not going to recognize their own kids because they grew up without them? How many people are not gonna relate to their spouse after they came back since the replacement was there for all of that and the real ones weren't?
I will die on the hill that Rowdy was taken after endgame. This takes place in the year of 2025 and endgame takes place in 2023 so a long time could mean 1 or 2 years
It's okay to say a show is garbage with trash writing decisions. it's how we get better quality of shows and movies by openly saying when something is terrible.
The President's response to the Skull Invasion was a surprise and a rather extreme one at that. At the same time, what else can you do after an alien race of shapeshifters conspired to start a nuclear war to wipe out Humanity and claim the ashes? Now I'm curious if the US has just declared war on New Asgard (a new country established by technical aliens) and, given that New Asgard is in Norwegian territory, if New Asgard inherited membership in NATO. Someone get me out of this rabbit hole, please? What might have helped better understand the Skrulls is going more into what happened prior to Captain Marvel. In the comics, the Skrulls were as imperialistic as the Kree, their ancient rivals.
@@jamescallanan2443i dont think many people cared about her personal issues. Fury is who everyone wanted to know about, now we dont even know what he thought of it all.
12:37 "give Nick fury powers" that's what I thought too but I thought about comics (the little bit I saw with Nick fury in (that was marvel zombies) he don't have powers
Since Gravik was on Fury’s side during the events of Endgame it is extremely unlikely that Rhodey was kidnapped and switched out during that time or before. New Asgard is in Norway and there is no way very liberal Norway (or Western Europe) would agree with the US’s hateful stance.
Hear me out...Sonya is creating her own team of super powered individuals to protect the United Kingdom....called Excalibur. Brings in Captain Britain, his sister Betsy Braddock aka Psylocke, Black Knight, Wolfsbane. Lockheed...
I’m very happy if someone really enjoyed this show, that’s great. Me personally I was underwhelmed and disappointed. Graviks arc went downhill after getting aggressive to his own team. Talos and Maria Hill’s death wasn’t impactful enough for me. They both deserved better. Too many questions were left up in the air. G’iah is suddenly the most powerful person/Skrull in the universe. The conversation with Gravik and Fury felt undercut when it turned out it was G’iah the whole time. No info was given about how long Everett Ross and Rhodey were kidnapped. If Rhodey was out since Civil War, that completely undermines the emotional moments he went through. But if it happened after Endgame that would be fine for me. Sonya Falsworth was my favorite character and i hope we get more appearances. Let’s not forget about New Asgard and who lives there now that President Ritsin suddenly declared war on all aliens. Overall grade: C+. Worst among the shows IMO. But Im still for the journey in the future and continue to read more comic books. Sorry to sound bitter, I wish I liked this show more.
Im fine with that for you. I love the comic book Super hero world of properties such as DC and Marvel. It’s where I go to escape from reality. There are 2 Secret Invasion stories I read that are WAY better than the show and highly recommend: Secret Invasion (2008) Secret Invasion (2022)
14:03 it’s funny seeing the guys just squee in excitement when that shot has been one of the major sources of criticism on the internet. So refreshing to see someone reacting positively!
[gasp] A video with people saying both good AND bad things about Secret Invasion, acknowledging its’ major problems but also acknowledging its’ positive elements?!? What is this madness?!?
Thats blind wave. Actually fair about things. Acknowledge the good and the bad and dont just bitch and moan. And they can make it clear that it's their own personal opinions and not be assholes who think their views are objectively correct
Ive been so disappointed with what Marvel has been putting out. WandaVision and Loki in my opinion were the only 2 good disney+ shows. Im praying Loki season 2 delivers
@@kaenopi hawkeye has one of my favourite mcu moments. When Clint is on the phone to his son and he can't hear him because he doesn't have his hearing aid and Kate helps him 🥺
I don’t care what anyone says I liked how this ended nothing got fully resolved and Nick can’t fix it lol it’s realistic with its politic shit. How you expect Nick to fix all that politic shit by himself ? He can’t
I thought that this episode was pretty good. I probably like it more than most other people, but it was still probably my least favorite out of all the episodes. I think that as a whole this episode was pretty good. It had a lot of really great moments and scenes, but unfortunately some of the negatives outweigh the positives. For starters I will say I was hoping that this one would be longer if not the longest seeing as how it’s the last episode of the show. And it makes it even sadder to say that I didn’t enjoy this episode as much because I felt like this episode almost had everything going for it, but it needed some big tweaks to make it as good as some of the other earlier episodes. But I will say, as a whole this show still had incredible writing, fantastic acting, a great and dramatic tone, and some very (underrated) dramatic and emotional music. And since this is the last episode, I will say what I have been saying all season, I feel like I just cannot say enough just how great all the performances were in this episode. Each actor was giving an incredible performance and I felt like they were all doing an amazing job. And despite some of this episode’s issues, I still feel like the writing was pretty amazing in this episode. It felt like every interaction scene or dialogue scene was fully fleshed out. They each had great dramatic moments and moments of tension and emotion. And it was all made even better through the actors incredible performances during these scenes. I honestly just loved getting to listen to the dialogue between the characters. Each of them just had great chemistry with one another which made simple dialogue scenes feel so much more engaging and impactful. And speaking of the actors fantastic preferences, I’m so glad that Kingsley Ben-Adir got to finally shine as Gravik in this episode. Everything about his performance in this episode was so amazing, you could really feel all the emotion in his voice and in his actions. And I think that the whole dialogue scene he had between he and Fury was just so amazing, you were able to hear and feel his hatred and betrayal that had built up inside him over all these years. I also thought that Fury had a great dialog scene right after Gravik’s, it was really deep and dramatic and kind of added to Fury’s motivations in this show. But then it gets kind of muddled when we find out that this is actually G’iah pretending to be Fury. Like it becomes kind of weird and a little confusing that G’iah would be the one to say these very specific and personal things about Fury. And the fight scene between G’iah and Gravik was really cool, I really liked getting to see all the different characters power’s being displayed at once. The choreography and the use of the different powers were awesome and just made the fight a lot cooler. But I will say, it kind of ended abruptly with Gravik’s death. And speaking of Gravik’s death, it was kind of underwhelming, I mean he was the main villain, and a very compelling one at that, and he just sort of gets killed. I wish that he had a more ceremonious conclusion. Whether it be his actual death or what he did/said before that, I just wish that the final scene/moment had a little bit more to it to make his death feel more impactful to both the audience and the other characters. Also I felt like Sonya Falsworth was a great addition to this show and the MCU as a whole and I always loved her performance throughout the series, it was just so amazing every time she was on screen and I hope that she comes back in a future Marvel property. And getting to see Fury and Priscilla have a happy ending was really nice, I think that their relationship was really well fleshed out and very well written and I hope that we get to see them together again someday. I’d honestly be surprised if Priscilla/Varra didn’t at least make an appearance in The Marvels. Over all I really liked this show a lot, I think that at its highest it had some of the best writing and acting out of any other Marvel movie or show. I can’t believe that this series is already over. I think that despite its flaws I will still look back on this show and love everything about it. And I can’t wait to see where this story will tie into the rest of the MCU and where this will take some of the characters. I’m still so glad that we finally got a MCU project that followed Nick Fury, this just feels like something we’ve all wanted for a very long time and I think this show was able to deliver on that. I also loved being able to watch all your guys reactions to this show and it was great to get to hear your thoughts and reviews to this show too and I can’t wait to watch more down the line. Also it was cool to see Everett Ross again.
I don't dislike this series like some do (acting from most of the leads was great, some of the action was great and I liked the exploration of some of the themes). One of the harshest things I will say is that a trio of Doctor Who episodes from almost 10 years ago (Day of the Doctor, The Zygon Invasion, and The Zygon Inversion) told the almost the exact same story of a shape-shifting alien race settling on Earth because of diplomacy of an all powerful/loving hero only for faction of the shape shifters to start rebelling and wanting to use their ability to conquer the planet. Thing is though Doctor Who did the storyline a lot better than Secret Invasion did.
Pretty sure Rhodes was replaced after Endgame, he probably needed another reconstructive surgery for his legs and they snatched him in the hospital he was in. Because he still had an exoskeleton in Endgame and I found it weird he seemed completely fine in this or recovered so quickly when it clearly looked like the life changing type of injury.
@@jamescallanan2443 But it wouldn't make sense for him to be a Skrull in Infinity War and Endgame though, completely ruins Tony's funeral too. Also, Gravik's plan seems to have been set in motion when Fury came back only to go on S.A.B.E.R and leaving the Skrull refugees to fend for themselves and breaking his promise. We're told the cleanup of the Avengers compound was carrier out by a few Skrull agents so they were still helping Fury then, it must've been after Endgame because of that otherwise they would've had the Avengers DNA samples way earlier.
@@Shinransa that's the very concept of Secret Invasion. Revealing that characters have been imposters for years and adding new context to previous events. If Skrull-Rhodey wasn't involved in anything important, than replacing Rhodey is almost pointless. It doesn't ruin Tony's funeral, it creates a new dilemma for Rhodey in Armour Wars. It'd be meaningless if Rhodey didn't have any thing to adapt to.
@@Shinransa the Skrulls weren't entirely on Fury's side. Otherwise they would have told him the truth about how many Skrulls there are on Earth. I personally feel that Gravik turned against Fury because of Fury using him as a hitman
@IceMetalPunk when did they get frost heast DNA? They've not been to earth ever. And it's not like the skrulls spent time in asgard. Does new asgard have access to them?
@@ryuhitsuya21 Don't know, but it was listed on the computer as having been collected, when Gaiah was sneaking around behind Gravik's back. *Edit* Strike that, @ryanbrodsky5488 is right. The second post credits scene from Dark World shows a frost beast jumping around on Earth.
This is where i feel the MCU dipped into DCCU level of quality. Like the BvS of Marvel. I know they had to do reshoots and whatever, so i would like to see the original vision, but they still could've not given us... dumb super arms from a CGI bank. People ham on She-Hulk... but they basically called this kinda stuff out before it was even made. I can't really blame the CGI/FX departments to being overworked. Idk... just feels like a missed opportunity to do something really cool. It didn't need to be "evil skrulls," but still. I get why people left with a sour taste.
If you want to watch what Secret Invasion should've, and realistically could've, been, watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 4, specifically latter ⅔s of it. The paranoia, intrigue, and suspense is all there where there was none here.
I dont know how anyone like this finale man. Fury didn't want to call in the Avengers for a lame excuse, but his plan depended on Giah gaining the powers of all the Avengers, and still rooting for her to win the fight.
cuoldn't agree more. this show had such potential and basically fell on it's arse, which is especially disappointing considering the comic it's based on is pretty good and NOTHING like this show.
@@jamescallanan2443 But it makes totally no sense if he was changed during Civil War. Why Skrulls wanted him in that time? They had no reason because they started invasion because of Fury. Gravik was mad on him after his disappearing. So it means he was changed during 5 years gap after Infinity War/early on Endgame or during years after Endgame/before Secret Invasion. They want us to think like that but for me it's too easy and it's contrary to the script of the Secret Invasion. Ok, it could have been during Civil War but it will be another prove that MCU is falling more and more...
take brodie form and not just the president?th secret service rotates, right? take them when theyre off duty, until theyre all skrulls, and they can take the president without a bother and tadaa.
I wish the Guys would Cap off this Reaction by Reacting to the Honest Trailer and Pitch Meeting for this Series .. I found them MUCH funnier than the show itself.
Imo, since they didn’t plan for Rhodey to be a skrull in Endgame and TFATWS, he shouldn’t have been a skrull for that long. And it could make since in the context of the show if Gravok decided to replace Rhodey after the blip, because that’s when Fury abandoned them, right? That’s what I thought the show would go for, but it seems like they’re trying to say Rhodey has been a skrull for a long time because they saw theories about that.
Generally I really enjoyed this show I'm quite happy to take things as they are generally and enjoy them as much as possible though I did find the finale a bit anticlimactic and it fell a bit flat. I didn't like that the big conversation between Gravik and Fury wasn't actually with Fury. Gravik died super easily and it was fun seeing the different powers but they just mastered them all immediately? It was kind of boring as a fight. Fury arguably left a bigger mess than what he came back to in the first place! Plus Talos dying saving the president not even being brought up to counter him declaring full war on all aliens just Fury like "well that was stupid...some still wanted to help us..guess you're losing next election" like eeh. These shows do struggle a bit with pacing and landing the finale and balancing storylines. I actually think Hawkeye did it best so far 😂
At the start of the episode, after Nick called his wife he walked toward a car which I think is the same one going to the Skrull compound. If so, does that mean it was G’iah and not Nick who called her? Was she getting into character? Seeing if she would pass as Nick?
@@TorIverWilhelmsen I'm fine with that. I never needed a comic accurate Secret Invasion. What I'm frustrated with is them fucking up the Super Skrulls when it's such a simple concept.
@@johnnymittle It's a straightforward concept, Super Skrulls trade their shape-shifting powers for up to four other powers. They don't get to pick and choose from a well of powers while maintaining their shape-shifting.
@@eevee9111 Depends - the old Super Skrull was tied to FF4 who aren't in the MCU yet (May 2025 is the current release window). What they did with the concept works within the constraints of and changes othwerwise in the MCU (like making Thor a lovable goof)
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🙋🏼♂️ _"Um, excuse me, Mr. Fury…_ _I know of a planet the skrulls can inhabit: The one Thanos initially retired to. Have you tried that?"_ 🤷🏼♂️
SHHHHH.. I'm trying to spend quality time with my wife!
That would be kinda mean. Remember it has no resources. Might as well put them on our moon.
@@jinxie712 that's not true, the planet Thanos retired to was lush and he was farming, and had a small hut before Thor cut his head off
You have already put more thought into this show than everyone behind it.
Dont' worry, Harrison Ford will beat him in the next election.
Fury's phone call with the president built up tension, then it was immediately released by his conversation with Varra. Having had time to think about it, I wish the convo with Varra had been a post-credits scene since it was basically just setting up the next part of the story.
I liked Gravik character, the actor and his chat with Fury, but since he started killing allies and his death was an absolute dissapointment
I think that describes the show too: Towards the end it got dissapointing
And the fact that they pretty much killed him off like that just further ruins the whole thing for me
Ya I really liked his final speech but then it just became pointless with the reveal
For me I didn’t mind the former. From the beginning I could tell he was fully evil tbh, I wasn’t surprised when he started killing his allies. As Honest Trailers put it, usually Marvel or whoever will have their villains who have points do something really evil just to make sure you don’t agree with them and remove the nuance of them. But with Gravik he was fully genocidal from the start so killing his underlings was not a stretch, at least to me. And he also owned his genocidal ways, he didn’t try to say he was out for the betterment of everyone or anything.
I did become a fan of the actor tho, that man can act
I mentioned this on a different reaction vid but...Did the fight between Gravik and "Nick" not remind anyone else of that scene in What If? of Evil Hank Pym fighting "Nick"? Fury really likes the idea of a good Ol' switcheroo.
Yes. But it's sad that it's not Fury to hear Gravik's anger and complaints in this episode
@@yudhazacharias9377 True
@@randomotakunerd it's when we feel for the antagonist. But the main protagonist isn't there to hear it
Man don't remind me of such a massively superior product
“Wow what a hole!” I’m dying 😂 was not expecting the home alone reference
Imagine a few days later a small spaceship enters Earth's atmosphere and video starts transmitting of a very unamused-looking racoon in the cockpit with a growling dog behind him:
"Now when you say 'off-world born species'..."
Ooh I would love that! Rocket and Cosmo talking down Ritsin would be gold.
@@TboneUSA07 GotG Vol. 3 Spoilers!!! Did they confirm whether Rocket was born on Earth or not? If not, what was with that scene of Rocket freeing all of those baby raccoons from North America?
@@klimmr People seem to be assuming that those baby raccoons were born on Earth and are Rocket's siblings, but that doesn't make any sense to me. The High Evolutionary clearly visited Earth in the 80's and hasn't likely returned, and raccoons don't live more than a decade or two. It makes more sense that all the live animals on the ship are cloned from DNA samples collected on Earth and stored, so Rocket was technically born in the High Evolutionary's lab, but Earth is still his planet of origin in the sense that that's where his species evolved, and is where his individual genome was conceived.
I feel like this is the new marvel formula:
1. strong opening
2. make the character seem wise but old/frail
3. make the villains 1-dimensional somehow
4. let the supporting characters shine
5. nonsensical kaiju fight
6. insert sequel potential
I'm not saying it can't work (it absolutely can) but don't just follow a checklist, have respect for your other IP's.
I saw no sequel potential inserted. The reverse if anything.
@@flaggerify you don't wanna know what happened to all the Skrulls? Or what Fury went back for? Or what all the pods mean?
@@iamzedv1914 It looked rushed. As if they decided there wasn't going to be a second season.
@@flaggerify you're not wrong there... But there's still enough to make up a story probably
Calvin’s laugh is literally HAHAHAHA 😂😂😂
🤣
I really liked the parts of the show that covered Fury's past and his relationships, but the main plot about the modern-day Skrulls wanting war just didn't capture my interest the same way.
The show is the epitome of what She-Hulk was making fun of in their own finale.
I thought the writing in She-Hulk was pretty smart as they were pretty accurately able to predict how people would feel about She-Hulk’s character even though other male hero’s such as Tony Stark have done way worse things then say things she doesn’t actually mean when she’s angry.
She-Hulk is my favorite show actually. The humor and 4th wall break and meta jokes were AMAZING and I really hope we get more because I looked forward to it every week!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395you are why natural selection exists
The fact they are and always will be garbage shows?
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I hate to be insulting but I'm going to insult you. If you think SH is better than WV or Loki you are better off watching the Minions franchise tbh
I think the finale needed a longer runtime because after Gravik dies it goes through a bunch of plot beats super quick.
It always does, and they never allow it, I don't understand...
this show needed an entire phase lol
I think the six episode run was a Bob Chapek dictate.
she needed a longer drax arm, that was some sloppy cgi
It have way too many problems beyond that.
Super Skrulls are more like Kevin Eleven, when he first took on the hybrid monster form. They can't use all of the stolen powers as effectively as the original, their danger is in the diversity of the power kit.
@@TheJerbolman you must not be a comic book fan and just a casual MCU movie fan because a lot of comics are dumb and goofy as hell.
@@TheJerbol comic Super Skrull usually uses Ben Grimms arm for his powers so I guess you have beef with Jack Kirby and Stan Lee LOL.
(Don’t get me wrong. Baby drax arm looked fucking stupid and I hated it)
Haven’t had such a good show take such a sharp nosedive at the end like this since Game of Thrones. 😂
What nosedive are you referring too?
What good show are you referring to?
@@Easy_Skanking the three to four episodes that had for the most part consistent writing and great character moments. Lol 😂
The thing is... GOT was bad for seasons, people just weren't willing to see it or listen to complaints: "No, no, everything will make sense in the end"... It's the exact same with Secret Invasion, it was bland, mediocre and badly written from the start.
@@allisonwoody24601Uh, were we watching the same show?
I saw inconsistent and ridiculous character behavior, no tension, no thrills, and completely boring story writing. This show failed on every level. Not only was it terrible MCU but it was just flat out bad as any kind of show.
I see the using super skrull abilities, as part being intuitive. And part knowing what the characters are capable of. Gravik being the collector and working with fury likely had a base level idea of what they could do. His usage was more basic and straight forward mostly sticking to the bruisers. G'iah I think might have gotten a primer from fury giving her ideas of who can do what and why that might be useful and with that was more creative in her uses. I also expect if we see G'iah again that each individual power isn't as strong as the original. A little diluted , . So she has great variety but not as much raw power
Emilia Clarke in Bad Finales for high budget shows is going to become something normal???
Calling this finale “bad” is an over simplification. It needed a longer run time
It's not a bad finale just finale should be an HR runtime
If I had a nickel for every time Emilia Clarke was in a high budget finale for a huge franchise that was a complete and utter disappointment, I would have 2 nickels…which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
@@Aryansh_11 it IS bad. It could've been good if it was an hour I agree with you. But it wasnt, so it was bad, for many other reasons as well
I think the issue is the finale is decent for what the show is, it just builds off 2 previous episodes that weren’t good and completely got rid of any of the interesting spy stuff from secret invasion. This finale wraps up the series well, it’s just the series is the issue. What a let down from the first 2 episodes
I suppose they can say the info transfer goes both ways. That is, those in stasis helplessly see what's happening to their skrull counterpart. 🤷🏼♂️
Not even how the memory absorption works, they just learn their lives from their memories, they don't see real time lol
Fury couldn't find a planet for them, I believe Thanos has a whole planet called the Garden 🤣
Im with Eric on this one. I dont regret watching it or anything and i enjoyed it while i did watch it. But its definitely mid tier stuff. Not everything gonna be the best shit out there. But the performances were still so god damn good here at least.
I wish more people were acting like you about this. Keeping a level head and not screaming about the MCU dying. As if this show is worse the Inhumans
Disney+ Mid Tier: First half of WandaVision
Disney+ Garbage Tier: Everything else
@@thedoor43 Spot on.
So, the Skrull compound was so Radioactive that G'hia had to really act sick to sell Nick as being there, and yet all the people the Skrulls were keeping in the basement were fine? All those people should be REAL sick.
Yeah, she acted sick even when no one was watching lmao
I loved the part where Gravik just remained in a chokehold instead of using ghost's power to phase out. Also, ghost needs quantum energy to stabilize her condition temporarily. So, how does that work with G'iah? Is she dying or does the extremis heal her splitting cells.
Harvest isn't just the people at the Endgame battle. SHIELD was there when the Frost Beast was in London. Ghost was a SHIELD assassin.
When the screen was flashing between everyone's DNA it also listed Abomination as well.
Yeah i just imagined fury put the ones from the final battle with what they already had collected from previous conflicts.
Ever since Civil War, Rhodey has always had leg braces to walk for him in every appearance he's made, except this show. He couldn't walk after being freed because they took them away. He's also in a hospital gown because the Skrull impersonating him would've needed his clothes with all his accolades. He was replaced after Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
Pretty sure the showrunner or director confirmed it was after Civil War lol
He did "wear" it under his suits
@@krishcharanfalcon and winter soldier is after civil war lol
@@sandrosliske nice brain
@@krishcharan He didn't really confirm anything, though. He basically said "he thinks" it was after Civil War, like it's just his opinion. Either way, I'm sure Armor Wars will answer this question. I would personally prefer it wasn't after Civil War since it would cheapen the end of his and Stark's friendship. Marvel can do some stupid things, but they're not THAT stupid.
I wonder if they will introduce the Skrull kill crew if they continue this story line in the MCU? They were people who ate hamburger meat made from Skrulls tricked into becoming cows by Mr. Fantastic. He then used a device to hypnotized them into thinking they were cows.
I heard a theory that The Thunderbolts are going to be hunting Skrulls as a joint American-Russian operation
They'd better drop this plotline asap, they've already created the most idiotically strong character in the MCU so of course they didn't think ahead
@@TheJerbol Who? Gaia or Captain Marvel?
Mr fantastic is crazy, that is some crazy shit to do to someone lmao
The last time you see Rhodey with his leg braces is in Endgame. I'm sure he went to the hospital after that. 🖖😎👍
I heard Aaron drop the little "WOW WHAT A HOLE" from Home Alone 2!!!! Love that part of Home Alone haha
Rhodey becoming a skrull in civil war doesn’t add up in the long run. Makes more sense if it happened after endgame
why would that make more sense? im not agreeing or disagreeing, just wondering why you think that
Because Rhodey has extensive physical issues and he probably needed to visit the hospital for a checkup after all that punishment during the end game fight. Would have been very possible to switch him out.
@@grimbane6092 fair point but he was in the hospital in civil war too but either way, i guess it might be worth going back and watching things after civil war, try spot when he stopped using a brace to walk but you made good points :)
@@ruks-yl4ut if you watch Endgame, Rhodey actually crawls like his legs aren't functioning after the Avengers HQ gets exploded by Thanos in the 3rd act.
@@ruks-yl4utand on top of what grimbane said already, Rhodey was bleeding red in endgame
Finally you guys are back
It had the potential to be a well executed spy thriller Marvel show, but there was no tension
And the goals were not met
Should have just been a show called Fury. Dealing with him losing his touch. And the Skrull plot being a surprise reveal.
@j.aghoul3147as mj once said, “expect disappointment and you will never be disappointed”
I dont know how they came up with this finale AFTER mocking generic CGI fight finales in She-Hulk not long ago. Its like the irony is flying right over their heads.
you don't get it, it's funny and clever because they are mocking themselves
she hulk and secret invasion were too close to eachother in release dates. I'm convinced they don't communicate between teams of two different shows, they don't know what's going on in an another project until its official release. as long as overall continuity is kept it's alright. if secret invasion and she hulk had a bigger gap maybe it would be in time to influence the writers
20:38 Calvin: "YOUR planet?"
THANK YOU. I literally just said it, my mans came through and said it too
All off world species enemy combatants!!! I wonder how the Asgardians in Norway are going to react to that
Yeah, every species born off-world... so that'd include;
- The Skrulls.
- Thor and the Asgardians, as well as any other species living with them (light elves, Kronans like Korg, etc).
- Technically the Eternals? If people were made aware of them.
- Almost all of the Guardians of the Galaxy and any of their friends, allies, and relatives.
- Technically it might include Hulk's son Skaar?
So yeah, if they actually decide to pursue this plot line going forward (rather than just in The Marvels), we might get a World War Hulk type storyline, a more serious Thor movie (Hemsworth said he wanted a swith-up to the character again if he's to come back), and ***GOTG3 SPOILERS BELOW***
Maybe even some sort of Star-Lord involvement?
Plus of course if they go with a plot where anti-superhuman sentiment in general is rising, connected to the anti-alien stuff, it could lead directly into X-Men and their situation (we've already had some "mutant" namedrops).
President “eh you look human enough”
As famous quote goes "Writers kinda forgot about New Asgard"
@@MrDarkSidius💀
Don't worry, Harrison Ford will beat him in the next election.
If they made it 2 movies or 10-16eps it would be good such a bugger story than they made basically just a nick fury show Childs show avengers earth mightiest heroes done a much much better secret invasion
At 27:40 when you guys were mentioned Frost, I was thinking Killer frost because I’m watching your guys reaction to the flash as well 😂
I can look past that skrulls are compatible with any alien there is, but how could they copy something like Carol Danvers' power which is Infinity-Stone-magic-mumbo-jumbo and not genetic. Where would they even get the energy? Or Ghost, whose power/disability is not cellular, it might as well function on atomic level or lower. I could get how they copy a sorcerer, as it's a skill that basically anyone could hypothetically acquire, but non-DNA-altering energy-infusion-thingamajigs that cannot be unlocked with just skill? Whatever, because comics.
Like, even if they can replicate the effects of the Infinity Stone or the Quantum Realm, just "HOW?", and why is it not mentioned? It seems important enough as it has some huge implications like "could they copy all the Infinity Stones, if someone biological were to fuse with them?". AGHhh.!. Comics-mumbo-jumbo-baloney.
I don't know whether or not MCU Carol has infinite supply of energy in her, but if Infinity Stones are literally infinite, then even the smallest fraction of their energy would be ..well at least a life supply.
they can't copy sorcers since its just a skill you can learn and they would have to instead learn it.
They got Rhodey after Endgame because in Endgame he had Red blood
I see this as a stepping stone to The Marvel's. I'm okay with the ending of the show since none of it really ends it just flows to the next. I enjoyed it and I enjoy y'all.
14:20 Iceman I believe (I don't know who else have ice powers either I do and I just forgot or I just forgot because my memory is a goldfish)
I was concerned when I heard that they were making this series for precisely the point made in the Rhodey discussion.
A doppelgänger plot twist can work, but you have to make up for the fact that you are taking away from the original character. Maybe if we had an episode of fake Rhodey going through moments in time since they took it. I would have it that the longer they stay in one particular mask the Skrull begin to truly adopt that identity. Might help with Gravik’s frustration if living in disguise for so long on Earth is literally erasing his people’s own identity. Its just a shame because there’s potential work with ideas of individual and collective identity.
It also showed that we could never truly know who to trust
Just because Rhodey had stated that his last memories were of going into surgery, one shouldn't automatically assume he had been snatched and replaced since the end of "Civil War". This is impossible, especially since the series had made it clear that Gravik didn't set his plans in motion until sometime after the Blip, which occurred at the end of "Endgame". And chances are Rhodey was going into surgery some time after the events of "Endgame". C'mon people, think.
As for the series itself, it didn't live up to my expectations, so I found it a little disappointing. But I still preferred it over the likes of "Loki", "The Falcon and the Winter Soldier", "Ms. Marvel" and "Moon Knight" - all of which I found very disappointing.
Just like she-hulk, the show peaked too early
loki is incredible, i recommend rewatching it
I could’ve sworn this video came out more then 3 days ago
LOVED the Home Alone 2 reference
Thank you. I've been racking my brain trying to remember who and where that line was said like that.
So with the hospital gown and trouble walking, Rhodey has been a skrull since Civil War meaning he doesn't even know his best friend Tony is dead!🤯
By far the most interesting thing in this show is what it meant for other shows XD The consequences here will be buried so far deep
9 years in a hospital gown? Damn thats some resilient and breathable fabric... Must be cold too.
Eh, we don't know that yet.
You don't think he has occasional checkups or medical examinations?
The doctor examining him was probably the skrull that kidnapped him or something.
Bit of a letdown to be honest, slightly confused what else they have in store after this...
Great finale for me
major let down for me. especially considering the expectations attached to it.
A bit?
nothing hopefully
They have no plan
That was a big hole, and it eliminated all of Gravik's viscera as well as the solar plexus which controls all heart/lung functions, and a significant section of Gravik's thoracic and lumbar vertebrae. I do not think even Extremis can recover from that.
I feel like the President has no idea how terrifying humans are when they are scared and paranoid. Biggest bonehead play of all time right after Gravik putting the Skrulls in the world's crosshairs.
For a show called secret invasion… sure wasn’t any invasion like at all. I’ll never understand why they thought making solely nick fury the only person to “prevent” this invasion a thing… when he wasn’t even the person to actually stop anything 💀 such a rushed & fast paced waste of potential. Only interesting thing that came from this show was rhodey being a skrull and even THAT was pretty dumb. The mcu is getting so repetitive and boring and lack luster. It puzzles me that ppl Wait YEARS and hype up this stuff still. This universe died with endgame and tony
I was so hoping somehow for a Terrence Howard cameo, it would have been funny
Also.. still miffed that in all of Fury's (and others) wisdom why did they put *everyone's* DNA in a single tiny vial?
Also miffed at the middling Super fight... and just.. all the powers.. like Giah is now just the best option for any issue lol even if she isn't at powerful as the originals.. having like Hulk, Abomination, Cull Obsidian, etc. collective super strength at once should still be equal-ish lol and the other powers just make her even more effective.. like sure she can't fly as fast as Carol or has as powerful lasers but.. she has durability from other powers.. so she could last just as long to do the same amount of damage
Gravik being killed so fast both is kinda refreshing not to have a dragged on fight but also.. for once.. the fight needed to be longer to show off various shifting to other powers lol
If Rhodey has been trapped since Civil War (doubt personally) who.. is gonna fill him in on.. umm.. various deaths? Like Tony was his friend and he just woke up to not only it being.. how many years past what he thought but also he was impersonated and his friend is dead.. and has been for a bit
And that doesn't even account for the various other randos who now have to learn their families were none the wiser they were replaced, how many parents missed their babies first steps and words? How many people are not going to recognize their own kids because they grew up without them? How many people are not gonna relate to their spouse after they came back since the replacement was there for all of that and the real ones weren't?
I will die on the hill that Rowdy was taken after endgame. This takes place in the year of 2025 and endgame takes place in 2023 so a long time could mean 1 or 2 years
Phase 5 Projects Ranked
1. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
2. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
3. Secret Invasion
This is phase 5?
@@NPJuve16 yes
@@NPJuve16black panther was the end of phase 4 I believe.
It's okay to say a show is garbage with trash writing decisions. it's how we get better quality of shows and movies by openly saying when something is terrible.
The President's response to the Skull Invasion was a surprise and a rather extreme one at that. At the same time, what else can you do after an alien race of shapeshifters conspired to start a nuclear war to wipe out Humanity and claim the ashes? Now I'm curious if the US has just declared war on New Asgard (a new country established by technical aliens) and, given that New Asgard is in Norwegian territory, if New Asgard inherited membership in NATO. Someone get me out of this rabbit hole, please?
What might have helped better understand the Skrulls is going more into what happened prior to Captain Marvel. In the comics, the Skrulls were as imperialistic as the Kree, their ancient rivals.
The scene between gravik and fury was so good but it was meaningless as it was not even fury
Gravik killed Giahs dad. You don't think that makes it personal?
@@jamescallanan2443i dont think many people cared about her personal issues. Fury is who everyone wanted to know about, now we dont even know what he thought of it all.
@@jamescallanan2443 he wasn't taking to Giah now was he. Everything he said it was for fury
It was obvious it was not Fury.
44:00 I imagine they will make Tony's daughter a suit at some point.
Maybe not. We already have iron heart and I'm pretty sure that kid from iron man 3 who was also at tony's funeral will probably become Iron lad
12:37 "give Nick fury powers" that's what I thought too but I thought about comics (the little bit I saw with Nick fury in (that was marvel zombies) he don't have powers
Since Gravik was on Fury’s side during the events of Endgame it is extremely unlikely that Rhodey was kidnapped and switched out during that time or before. New Asgard is in Norway and there is no way very liberal Norway (or Western Europe) would agree with the US’s hateful stance.
Hear me out...Sonya is creating her own team of super powered individuals to protect the United Kingdom....called Excalibur. Brings in Captain Britain, his sister Betsy Braddock aka Psylocke, Black Knight, Wolfsbane. Lockheed...
Yeah, we haven't seen Black Knight since Eternals... mostly because the Blade reboot is still not out.
I'm actually looking forward to that team the most
Another pair of Game of Thrones reunion? Bring Ikarus back too why not.
Alright I'm going to rewatch Peace Maker to wash this one off
I’m very happy if someone really enjoyed this show, that’s great.
Me personally I was underwhelmed and disappointed.
Graviks arc went downhill after getting aggressive to his own team.
Talos and Maria Hill’s death wasn’t impactful enough for me. They both deserved better.
Too many questions were left up in the air.
G’iah is suddenly the most powerful person/Skrull in the universe. The conversation with Gravik and Fury felt undercut when it turned out it was G’iah the whole time.
No info was given about how long Everett Ross and Rhodey were kidnapped. If Rhodey was out since Civil War, that completely undermines the emotional moments he went through. But if it happened after Endgame that would be fine for me.
Sonya Falsworth was my favorite character and i hope we get more appearances.
Let’s not forget about New Asgard and who lives there now that President Ritsin suddenly declared war on all aliens.
Overall grade: C+. Worst among the shows IMO. But Im still for the journey in the future and continue to read more comic books.
Sorry to sound bitter, I wish I liked this show more.
Good on you bud, I’ve given up on franchise entirely. It just hurts too much to see so much wasted potential.
Im fine with that for you. I love the comic book Super hero world of properties such as DC and Marvel. It’s where I go to escape from reality. There are 2 Secret Invasion stories I read that are WAY better than the show and highly recommend:
Secret Invasion (2008)
Secret Invasion (2022)
Why would you say sorry for sounding bitter? There's nothing wrong with being honest and recognizing stupid shit. I hate this toxic positivity shit.
If someone could enjoy this show, they could enjoy anything lol.
It's ironic that in one of the MCU's more grounded shows, it ends with a CGI fight scene, which She-Hulk made fun of.
Which is why their never should have been a Super Skrull.
@roxtechs I feel like the most they should have done with that was tease it for the future. Have like a file or something, "Super Skrull Project".
Episode 1 or 2 should have ended with the montage of people killing skrulls and the president's speech.
I hope you guys watch Across the Spider Verse for the crew members who haven't watched it 🙏
They reacted to Guardians 3 already
@@mr.manguy3692 Didn't know that, awesome!
14:03 it’s funny seeing the guys just squee in excitement when that shot has been one of the major sources of criticism on the internet. So refreshing to see someone reacting positively!
[gasp] A video with people saying both good AND bad things about Secret Invasion, acknowledging its’ major problems but also acknowledging its’ positive elements?!? What is this madness?!?
Thats blind wave. Actually fair about things. Acknowledge the good and the bad and dont just bitch and moan.
And they can make it clear that it's their own personal opinions and not be assholes who think their views are objectively correct
The true blind wave way. They always try to give everything there due even if some things are pretty bad about it.
Ive been so disappointed with what Marvel has been putting out. WandaVision and Loki in my opinion were the only 2 good disney+ shows. Im praying Loki season 2 delivers
Ms Marvel and Moon Knight (up till the finale) were also great
What if was really good personally
What if and Moon Knight were good
Hawkeye was fun! Low-stakes, holiday cheer, I liked it
@@kaenopi hawkeye has one of my favourite mcu moments. When Clint is on the phone to his son and he can't hear him because he doesn't have his hearing aid and Kate helps him 🥺
Calvin looking cute in his Dipper Pines hat
Very good question, since civil war?
I don’t care what anyone says I liked how this ended nothing got fully resolved and Nick can’t fix it lol it’s realistic with its politic shit. How you expect Nick to fix all that politic shit by himself ? He can’t
I thought that this episode was pretty good. I probably like it more than most other people, but it was still probably my least favorite out of all the episodes. I think that as a whole this episode was pretty good. It had a lot of really great moments and scenes, but unfortunately some of the negatives outweigh the positives. For starters I will say I was hoping that this one would be longer if not the longest seeing as how it’s the last episode of the show. And it makes it even sadder to say that I didn’t enjoy this episode as much because I felt like this episode almost had everything going for it, but it needed some big tweaks to make it as good as some of the other earlier episodes. But I will say, as a whole this show still had incredible writing, fantastic acting, a great and dramatic tone, and some very (underrated) dramatic and emotional music. And since this is the last episode, I will say what I have been saying all season, I feel like I just cannot say enough just how great all the performances were in this episode. Each actor was giving an incredible performance and I felt like they were all doing an amazing job. And despite some of this episode’s issues, I still feel like the writing was pretty amazing in this episode. It felt like every interaction scene or dialogue scene was fully fleshed out. They each had great dramatic moments and moments of tension and emotion. And it was all made even better through the actors incredible performances during these scenes. I honestly just loved getting to listen to the dialogue between the characters. Each of them just had great chemistry with one another which made simple dialogue scenes feel so much more engaging and impactful. And speaking of the actors fantastic preferences, I’m so glad that Kingsley Ben-Adir got to finally shine as Gravik in this episode. Everything about his performance in this episode was so amazing, you could really feel all the emotion in his voice and in his actions. And I think that the whole dialogue scene he had between he and Fury was just so amazing, you were able to hear and feel his hatred and betrayal that had built up inside him over all these years. I also thought that Fury had a great dialog scene right after Gravik’s, it was really deep and dramatic and kind of added to Fury’s motivations in this show. But then it gets kind of muddled when we find out that this is actually G’iah pretending to be Fury. Like it becomes kind of weird and a little confusing that G’iah would be the one to say these very specific and personal things about Fury. And the fight scene between G’iah and Gravik was really cool, I really liked getting to see all the different characters power’s being displayed at once. The choreography and the use of the different powers were awesome and just made the fight a lot cooler. But I will say, it kind of ended abruptly with Gravik’s death. And speaking of Gravik’s death, it was kind of underwhelming, I mean he was the main villain, and a very compelling one at that, and he just sort of gets killed. I wish that he had a more ceremonious conclusion. Whether it be his actual death or what he did/said before that, I just wish that the final scene/moment had a little bit more to it to make his death feel more impactful to both the audience and the other characters. Also I felt like Sonya Falsworth was a great addition to this show and the MCU as a whole and I always loved her performance throughout the series, it was just so amazing every time she was on screen and I hope that she comes back in a future Marvel property. And getting to see Fury and Priscilla have a happy ending was really nice, I think that their relationship was really well fleshed out and very well written and I hope that we get to see them together again someday. I’d honestly be surprised if Priscilla/Varra didn’t at least make an appearance in The Marvels. Over all I really liked this show a lot, I think that at its highest it had some of the best writing and acting out of any other Marvel movie or show. I can’t believe that this series is already over. I think that despite its flaws I will still look back on this show and love everything about it. And I can’t wait to see where this story will tie into the rest of the MCU and where this will take some of the characters. I’m still so glad that we finally got a MCU project that followed Nick Fury, this just feels like something we’ve all wanted for a very long time and I think this show was able to deliver on that. I also loved being able to watch all your guys reactions to this show and it was great to get to hear your thoughts and reviews to this show too and I can’t wait to watch more down the line. Also it was cool to see Everett Ross again.
I don't dislike this series like some do (acting from most of the leads was great, some of the action was great and I liked the exploration of some of the themes).
One of the harshest things I will say is that a trio of Doctor Who episodes from almost 10 years ago (Day of the Doctor, The Zygon Invasion, and The Zygon Inversion) told the almost the exact same story of a shape-shifting alien race settling on Earth because of diplomacy of an all powerful/loving hero only for faction of the shape shifters to start rebelling and wanting to use their ability to conquer the planet. Thing is though Doctor Who did the storyline a lot better than Secret Invasion did.
"He's not Christopher Walken" i just realized that Chistopher Walken is white Sam Jackson. my mind. it blew.
Nice
I must be on my own as I liked the show
Why is Gravik a weird mix of Welsh and Scouse? The accent seems off for Marvel haha
As someone who loves MCU stuff, this wasn't it man.
Yeah same, this was my personal first true disappointment in the MCU.
@@FiggityJones she hulk?
@@chroniccosmonaut5599 Y'know, some people actually enjoyed that.
@@PerovNigma wow some people liked it, let’s green light season 2 and waist another 200 milli.
@@chroniccosmonaut5599what are you talking about? what 200 million. Except loki, all other shows were made for one season only
Pretty sure Rhodes was replaced after Endgame, he probably needed another reconstructive surgery for his legs and they snatched him in the hospital he was in. Because he still had an exoskeleton in Endgame and I found it weird he seemed completely fine in this or recovered so quickly when it clearly looked like the life changing type of injury.
Rhodey hasn't done anything major since Endgame. Having the switch be from Civil War has much more impact
@@jamescallanan2443 But it wouldn't make sense for him to be a Skrull in Infinity War and Endgame though, completely ruins Tony's funeral too.
Also, Gravik's plan seems to have been set in motion when Fury came back only to go on S.A.B.E.R and leaving the Skrull refugees to fend for themselves and breaking his promise. We're told the cleanup of the Avengers compound was carrier out by a few Skrull agents so they were still helping Fury then, it must've been after Endgame because of that otherwise they would've had the Avengers DNA samples way earlier.
@@Shinransa that's the very concept of Secret Invasion. Revealing that characters have been imposters for years and adding new context to previous events. If Skrull-Rhodey wasn't involved in anything important, than replacing Rhodey is almost pointless. It doesn't ruin Tony's funeral, it creates a new dilemma for Rhodey in Armour Wars. It'd be meaningless if Rhodey didn't have any thing to adapt to.
@@Shinransa the Skrulls weren't entirely on Fury's side. Otherwise they would have told him the truth about how many Skrulls there are on Earth. I personally feel that Gravik turned against Fury because of Fury using him as a hitman
My biggest issue with this is that it's pretty rushed like the Mando S3 finale (though I personally enjoyed both)
It was like they rushed it because they knew there wouldn't be another season.
The ice sword looks like one of Nebula's upgrades in GotG3, but those would be mechanical not in her blood...
It's frost beast.
@IceMetalPunk when did they get frost heast DNA? They've not been to earth ever. And it's not like the skrulls spent time in asgard. Does new asgard have access to them?
@@ryuhitsuya21 One is left on earth during Thor: The Dark World. You can see it in the post credits scene.
@@ryuhitsuya21 Don't know, but it was listed on the computer as having been collected, when Gaiah was sneaking around behind Gravik's back.
*Edit* Strike that, @ryanbrodsky5488 is right. The second post credits scene from Dark World shows a frost beast jumping around on Earth.
Fury was also an idiot in the series for having ALL the DNA in one location instead of spreading it around the world.
i hope rhodey was taken after endgmame ,if its before he never got to say goodbye to tony
what about rhodes went for his yearly leg check so he had to remove his leg things
wouldnt the thing designating them enemy combatants thing only be applicable in the US and maybe other NATO countries.
People stay criticizing the show like their out here making masterpieces of shows that top it 🤣🤣🤣
Yes
This is where i feel the MCU dipped into DCCU level of quality. Like the BvS of Marvel.
I know they had to do reshoots and whatever, so i would like to see the original vision, but they still could've not given us... dumb super arms from a CGI bank.
People ham on She-Hulk... but they basically called this kinda stuff out before it was even made. I can't really blame the CGI/FX departments to being overworked.
Idk... just feels like a missed opportunity to do something really cool. It didn't need to be "evil skrulls," but still. I get why people left with a sour taste.
agents of shield s4 is what secret invasion should have been
If you want to watch what Secret Invasion should've, and realistically could've, been, watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 4, specifically latter ⅔s of it. The paranoia, intrigue, and suspense is all there where there was none here.
Facts
Isn't there a frost/diamond guy among the Ravager leaders?
thats who i thought of when i saw it originally but theres no point where fury would have been able to get that guys dna that we have been shown
Ravagers did join the fight against Thanos@@mcdotterson4103
I dont know how anyone like this finale man. Fury didn't want to call in the Avengers for a lame excuse, but his plan depended on Giah gaining the powers of all the Avengers, and still rooting for her to win the fight.
cuoldn't agree more. this show had such potential and basically fell on it's arse, which is especially disappointing considering the comic it's based on is pretty good and NOTHING like this show.
Each person is different and your opinion is only that, an opinion.
@@marshsundeen u mean just like this is only your opinion?
@@novaprime3647 what, that an opinion is just one person*'s view, while others can think differently? Yes.
@@marshsundeen exactly!
Rhodey being changed after CW makes no sense. He was likely changed sometime between the end of Endgame and when the show started.
But that would be almost meaningless since he hasn't done anything important since Endgame. It's a much bigger impact the father back it goes
@@jamescallanan2443 But it makes totally no sense if he was changed during Civil War. Why Skrulls wanted him in that time? They had no reason because they started invasion because of Fury. Gravik was mad on him after his disappearing. So it means he was changed during 5 years gap after Infinity War/early on Endgame or during years after Endgame/before Secret Invasion.
They want us to think like that but for me it's too easy and it's contrary to the script of the Secret Invasion. Ok, it could have been during Civil War but it will be another prove that MCU is falling more and more...
When’s the guardians 3 reaction!!
I think two weeks later. Next reaction is ford v ferrari(only rick and calvin). and after that its guardians 3 (everyone except rick)
All off world born species includes Thor, and all asguardians.
The Asgardians live on Earth now. Is the USA going to declare war on Asgard?
Hey guys are you gonna be watching good omen's season 2?. It needs as many views as it can get so we get a season 3.🤞 Xx
they said they will watch sometime in the future. The schedule is packed now
take brodie form and not just the president?th secret service rotates, right? take them when theyre off duty, until theyre all skrulls, and they can take the president without a bother and tadaa.
I wish the Guys would Cap off this Reaction by Reacting to the Honest Trailer and Pitch Meeting for this Series .. I found them MUCH funnier than the show itself.
to be fair those are meant to be funny. this show had a pretty serious tone with some jokes sprinkled in here and there.
Imo, since they didn’t plan for Rhodey to be a skrull in Endgame and TFATWS, he shouldn’t have been a skrull for that long. And it could make since in the context of the show if Gravok decided to replace Rhodey after the blip, because that’s when Fury abandoned them, right? That’s what I thought the show would go for, but it seems like they’re trying to say Rhodey has been a skrull for a long time because they saw theories about that.
It took me 3 whole minutes to decipher TFATWS!
Apparently he has been a skrull since civil war
Feige said that Don Cheadle has known the character has been a Skrull for a while.
Generally I really enjoyed this show I'm quite happy to take things as they are generally and enjoy them as much as possible though I did find the finale a bit anticlimactic and it fell a bit flat. I didn't like that the big conversation between Gravik and Fury wasn't actually with Fury. Gravik died super easily and it was fun seeing the different powers but they just mastered them all immediately? It was kind of boring as a fight. Fury arguably left a bigger mess than what he came back to in the first place! Plus Talos dying saving the president not even being brought up to counter him declaring full war on all aliens just Fury like "well that was stupid...some still wanted to help us..guess you're losing next election" like eeh. These shows do struggle a bit with pacing and landing the finale and balancing storylines. I actually think Hawkeye did it best so far 😂
Not deep Blue Sea. A mother fucking shark ate him!
New Asgard is not in America. So, they're safe.
At the start of the episode, after Nick called his wife he walked toward a car which I think is the same one going to the Skrull compound. If so, does that mean it was G’iah and not Nick who called her? Was she getting into character? Seeing if she would pass as Nick?
You’re thinking too much about something that clearly no one who made it cared for 💀this whole show was bad
How did they fuck up Super Skrulls this badly?
You were never going to get the comic-book Secret Invasion anyway.
@@TorIverWilhelmsen I'm fine with that. I never needed a comic accurate Secret Invasion. What I'm frustrated with is them fucking up the Super Skrulls when it's such a simple concept.
@@eevee9111 It's not really that great a concept to start.
@@johnnymittle It's a straightforward concept, Super Skrulls trade their shape-shifting powers for up to four other powers. They don't get to pick and choose from a well of powers while maintaining their shape-shifting.
@@eevee9111 Depends - the old Super Skrull was tied to FF4 who aren't in the MCU yet (May 2025 is the current release window). What they did with the concept works within the constraints of and changes othwerwise in the MCU (like making Thor a lovable goof)