How to MAKE MORE of your ZONE 2 riding!

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  • Опубліковано 24 гру 2024

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  • @matthewlaw2110
    @matthewlaw2110 Місяць тому +2

    I've heard Pogacars trainer say that any harder efforts should be done at the end of a zone 2 ride, as it takes the body a long time to get back into Z2, or perhaps just do them on separate rides altogether.

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому

      Yes, good advice!

    • @Foxtrottangoabc
      @Foxtrottangoabc Місяць тому +1

      Yes he did recomend that . Interestingly Pogis new trainer he has been using this year has seemingly been a bit dismissive of San Milans z2 and has given Pogi much more higher intensity sessions . But who to believe and not sure if his new coach is trying to find ways to explain his amazing fitness this year 🤔. Zone 2 lower intensity training makes good sense to me

  • @Foxtrottangoabc
    @Foxtrottangoabc Місяць тому +1

    Zone 2 training or lower intensity rides I have found that my body is less inflamed the next day. I'm in my early 50s and the zone 2 talk in recent years has encouraged me to keep my heart rate lower below 150 or 140 depending on distance . Where I live there's a good few punchy hills to get up and down so going over 160 into 170s was normal every ride. I used to just go for it going up but now think I'm better off on most rides to go up hill slower and keep the HR lower .🙂

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому +1

      Hi! Yes, I think the fact that Zone 2 creates lower stress on the body is one of its main benefits. Anything higher does fatigue you more and takes longer to recover from.

    • @stevencole7331
      @stevencole7331 Місяць тому +1

      I come from the era of no pain no gain so it's been difficult to slow things down . Got into mountain biking in my late 50s . I am 63 now . I overdid it on many occasions and new this from an inflamed body . In the past you suck it up and work through the discomfort . It's a revelation to me to say take a chill pill . I have a race next week and had my final race effort a couple weeks back . In my high desert location getting a consistent zone two for 2 hours and more is close to impossible . You get a punchy bill , a sand trap or wind in you face . I have to accept my rides are basically an 80/20 at best with 80 percent zone 2 . Zone 3 may pick up the majority of that 20 percent . I think I am still getting the benefit even with the fluctuation into zone 3. I base my ride on inflammation and lactate as you suggested and I definitely know what that feels like . So as long as I am not retaining inflammation and lactate on the ride and my recovery from the ride is short I think I am in good shape for these lower intensity benefits . Another thing I look at when I finish the ride is what level my heart rate is right after and how fast it comes down at rest

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому +2

      Sounds like a good plan! Yes in reality it’s very hard to stay in Zone 2 with hills etc but if you have good recovery it’s all good miles in the bank.

    • @Foxtrottangoabc
      @Foxtrottangoabc Місяць тому +1

      A bit like me really, I got back on a bike since childhood at 38yrs . And generally I always assumed to go flat out or save me self to go flat out on a hill climb I have used for 15yrs to gauge my fitness 😅 inflammation is an issue for me , and when it's bad my eyes puff up and stuff :). I purchased a Garmin watch only last year and as you say was surprised at how long my HR was elevated after a tough ride . The other thing that really caught my notice with the garmin is how alcohol also really messes up your heart rate for several hours after a few drinks , so that's also something i am now mindful of 🙂👍

    • @stevencole7331
      @stevencole7331 Місяць тому

      @@Foxtrottangoabc I gave up alcohol some 30 years ago . I was 38 at the time and going through divorce. Best thing I ever did . Second best thing I changed my diet to fairly extreme compared to the average modern diet . The third best thing was picking up mountain biking . I picked up my first bike 20 years and became serious and got my first real bike 6 years ago . I pushed and pushed to get fit . I developed hives . I got a bit of chronic fatigue from what I believed was going to hard . You don't realize how symptoms from athletic inflammation can manifest and the importance of recovery . I have a race this Saturday and I have trained at a much easier pace . My overall body feels so much better . What opened my eyes was guys riding less than me were having better efforts and seemed to get stronger compared to me . I had a similar problem weight lifting when I was young . I had joint pain with that .
      I call my approach extreme health concienouse creating a overall stable health picture . I try to maximize what I was born with for the best possible life and health span . I don't have that high end athletic ability and I had to come to terms with that . I am mostly at the back third of my group in a cat 2 race who are mostly made up with lifelong cyclist and I accept that. It's not easy as I am competitive but I realized I was doing more harm than good with training . Acceptance was very important to my mindset . If not I may have given up as I had no chance at competing with the top dogs but that's ok

  • @socopower
    @socopower Місяць тому

    What I really find tricky about staying in Z2 outdoors is to hold back when feeling good, it’s too easy to find myself pushing hard by default!

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому

      It is… I had that today. But I’m planning a video discussing if it’s really that bad not to stick to Z2!?

    • @socopower
      @socopower Місяць тому

      According to experts in physiology, you should stick to it, otherwise you engage fast twitch muscle cells. Logic indicates this wouldn’t be a problem if you do it after your trained the Z2 though

  • @njm3211
    @njm3211 Місяць тому +1

    I have to ride my trainer to do zone 2 training. I live on a mountainous island.

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому +1

      It’s much easier on the trainer but I find it harder to do more than 1-2 hrs on mine!

  • @annforrester4734
    @annforrester4734 Місяць тому +1

    Nice views! I’ve recently heard that if you go for long walks, it’s more effort for your body if you stop occasionally. Apparently if you keep going your heart/muscles etc. get more efficient, once in a rhythm, so you don’t have to work as hard. Therefore, they were advising to stop occasionally. Would that work for cycling too, do you think?

    • @Forest_velo
      @Forest_velo  Місяць тому +1

      I don't think so. The idea is to fatigue your slow twitch fibers which is best done with long sustained rides!

  • @CycleXplorer
    @CycleXplorer Місяць тому

    Are you zone 2 on Saturday mornings?