Suzuki GSX-S1000GX | The Ultimate OLD Man Sports Bike??
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I've been lucky enough to have been riding the new Suzuki GSX-S1000GX on the Portugal launch. I have high hopes for this machine, could it be the ultimate old man sport motorcycle? Join me for a ride to find out!!
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I really think it's cool that the Suzuki engineers come to these events and actually take notes and try to learn and adjust. It's hard to find that kind of pride anymore.
Yes absolutely, they love and believe in the bike. They are also super interested in everyone's feedback too 👍
@@LambChopRides hopefully they fixed myspin. I am loving the new Suzuki's
I can buy a Suzuki for just this reason. Also, I did
This is something that every brand should do. :) I agree on that. Drop by, you may like my content.
I’d imagine that the Japanese bikes aren’t lacking as such as they are excellent in their own right, it’s just when you compare them to their European counterparts that have poured a different kind of passion, philosophy (and money) in the last ten years or so you get this ever expanding difference. It’s the same with the cars.
Enjoyed that John, and great to see Neevesy on the channel too - looking forward to seeing Mr Hargreaves on the next one….my two favourite journos (not that I’ve ever met either alas!)….
Thanks Andy! Was great to finally meet Michael he's an absolute legend! Simon is also fantastic but we've met previously 👍
Must say Suzuki have done a great job with this bike.. I like the design, anti dive on braking and the engine is awesome and gearbox.. well done Suzuki.. great review as always Chops. :) Pete
Yes absolutely and thanks 👍👍
Not just the GX and Hayabusa has an IMU... My 2018 V-Strom 1000 had one.
"Why would one buy a GT"?! Because some would say the GT looks a lot nicer.... some people don't really care much about electronic suspension... just one more electronic component to fail on a ride. I set up my adjustable suspension once and done. I'm good for twists and long rides. The GT comes with side cases and is about 15 pounds lighter than the GX but, the biggest thing is, I find the look of the GT a lot better. Sleek!
Great vid by the way!
Can you educate me...
Is the IMU really needed?
I was looking at buying a used 1000GT. They're around 5k cheaper than a new GX.. i know an IMU offers more safety, but is it really worth it over used GT? Will it always save you in the rain mid corner?
All I've read on comments comparing the GT to the Ninja is IMU this, IMU that...
@@inked-96 Don't get me wrong, an IMU is definitely a great safety measure / tool to have BUT, we should never rely on these electronics to save our bacon and/or more importantly, replace riding skills, bike suspension set-up and a great set of tires.... people need to stop being cheap with rubber!
I put Michelin Road 6's on my bike and it made a world of a difference with traction. I also went from the stock rear size of 190/50/17 to 190/55/17 to help lean better in the twisties.
People need to learn how to properly approach corners to dampen the front suspension to get ultimate grip, learn to trail break, LOOK at where you want to go and then when to accelerate out of the corner and you should be all good.
Stay away from the inside corners because it's where the gravel and sand is because of stupid drivers but mostly large trucks hitting the shoulders.
So in short, there's no cons of having an IMU and there is a benefit for sure but do I think it's all that necessary? No.
Shame for the higher pegs and not having the side cases as standard, but overall a great machine. It was time for Suzuki to introduce something like this. Overall a lot of riders were expecting it, but it still feels a surprise. It also has a center stand as an option and this is just cool. Got my like here. Keep it up bro.
Thanks buddy 👍
I turn 58 next month and this bike excites me like the RM250Z release did in 1982. I WANT IT
It's really interesting to see the town where I live being shown on a Chopsy video!
Right at the beginning (around the 2:00 min mark) I can see that you were all around Guincho (the specific place also called Quinta da Marinha) in Cascais. I live an odd 9 kms away from there by car/bike (between the road in 2:49 and the roundabout in 10:00, the roundabout being like 3 mins away from me). Sad that I couldn't see any of you all on the road, even if just for a good old biker greeting.
It is nice to see other people from abroad enjoy, what essentially are, my local roads. Have a good one Chopsy, maybe one day I won't miss such an opportunity.
Oh brilliant Manuel! Watch out for part 2 then buddy 👍
@@LambChopRides Most definitely will!
If you ever come back here and see the odd Triumph Trident 660 (silver ice/diablo red) around the Cascais area, it's probably mine. I don't think there's any other around these parts for whatever reason.
First decent review at this bike launch but I can see why TMF doesn't bother going. I look forward to the real world road tests. Suzuki have made the best gearboxes since the GS750 of the '70's.😊
TMF doesn’t exceed 12 mph anyway
Nice vid but a few things; I get a bit fed up with constantly wanting more Bhp or ‘aggressive engine characteristics’; not everyone wants that.
If the pegs were lower then someone shorter would just complain they’re too low, so you’ll never win.
The last time I bought a GS it never came with vario panniers but I’ve never seen anyone complain about that.
It just kind of feels like extreme nitpicking; it’ll be super reliable, I like the looks and it’s cheap for what it is. Nice vid Chopsy but just a few things that get to me after a while.
Top review. Good to see you helping Mossey out, and I see Neevesy was saying nice things about you on his own channel.
Yes both absolutely fantastic fellas 👏
Nice Machine ! Would love to have it.
Great first ride video as usual! Appreciate the ergos for taller gent comments. I’m a past vstrom owner but long time sportbike rider. The ergos on a adv bike definitely life changing BUT when picking up the speed and dealing with wind the taller bike doesn’t work. And if the pegs aren’t lower then what’s the point? For me then the GT makes a lot more sense. 🤓
I wish that Suzuki would use the same electronic setup on V-strom.
Great vid 👍. This made me think of a head to head idea for you from this category....BMW s1000xr vs KTM 1290 superduke gt
Thanks for the idea! 😁👍
As a Kawasaki Ninja SXSE owner, I love the Suzuki GT. But now I am definitely impressed by the Suzuki GX! Could be my next one. If Suzuki does upgrade soon the GT with all the GX etra's. Greetings from BE.
In addition to the SX, or replace? SX would be my next, but not spending $$$ if I can get something like this for a 1/3rd less, and riders preferring over the SX
Great scenery chops , from your description it’s a vanilla kind of bike but I did enjoy the ride that’s a nice helmet you have Ride Safe
You elaborated on the awesome tech that this bike has, more so than the other reviews I saw. Well done Chops!
I appreciate that! Thanks 👍
Suzuki, surf, sand and Neevesey. Well done buddy. Look forward to day 2👍🏻
Thanks Mike 👍
Brilliant first ride review again chops......looking forward to part 2. 😊👏
Thanks Dean 👍
Interesting review. Sounds like the bike needs more development. Im not a tracer fan but suzuki has away to catch up. The panniers should have been included at the price.
I have a Tracer 9 and I just agree with you. They put the center stand as an option already and what they could is to at least put the panniers as standard. :) Drop by, you may like my content.
Great review chopsy , your living the dream mate .👍👍 looks great out there for the bikes .😁
Thanks Wattie, yeah I'm sure there are some fantastic roads out there... we didn't find many though 😆
Good first video Lamb Chop and to see you talking to other reviewers.
Thanks Lyn 👍
Surf looking fun in the background 😊
Great work Chopsy, been thinking about this bike since it was introduced at EICMA. Would love for you to compare and contrast the GX and GT.
Noted! 😜👍
This 150/152hp engine based on the legendary K5 engine and used in every 1000cc 4 cylinder Suzuki (except for the GSX-R1000) is without a doubt amazing, however since you commented that it doesn't have a lot of bottom end it got me thinking what if Suzuki makes a GSX-S1300GX (or GSX-S1340GX) using obviously the Hayabusa engine. It would be stronger everywhere.
Portugal sounds like heaven when it’s December and there is a foot of snow outside. Put that katana motor in it. Plenty of pull in that. 😂surfboards wot ever.❤
but it is the katana motor? isn't it?
Good review as always . Was planning on trying one but don’t think I’ll bother as I can’t see it beating my Tracer GT+
It will have a ton more power. Better for 2 up and fully loaded. The Suzi also looks far nicer than the Yam.
@@fyorbane I don’t agree . The GT+ has much more midrange which is where you need it . Top end power is useless . And IMHO the Yamaha looks better and is finished better . Hence Simon saying at the end that the GX will have a fight to better the opposition
The Suzi has more midrange. That K5 motor is legendary . You need to ride one. Top end power is very useful. You use it for tremendous acceleration which is always great fun which is one of the main reasons for owning and riding a bike. The Suzi is much nicer looking. The fit and finish looks very good too. You would need to park them side by side to see which is the better finished.@@magaudion
@@fyorbane I owned a GSXR K5 thanks . You need to watch the video and also others such as MCN where they state that the GX is lacking midrange . It’s only your opinion that the GX is nicer looking . Opinions are like arseholes-everybody has one . Enjoy your GX when you get it . Maybe wait a year until they need to drop the price 🤔
It sounds like they have strangled [or overly strangled] the midrange to get it through emmissions. That can easily be sorted with a decent exhaust and ECU remap. Bang ,and your good to go. I may look at one and test it myself when they arrive. In the meantime I'll continue having fun with my '22' Aprilia Tuono 1100 V4. @@magaudion
Probably summed up by being an
‘Effective’ bike…. It does what it does within its brief but nothing more nor less. Not unusual for Suzuki. Still, in the same way it ticks all the boxes it ticks for the money. They’ll sell loads. Thanks Chops, good work 👍
Great vid Chops I was hoping this bike would be epic - have they made another vanilla bike?
Unfortunately the route and the tyres didn't show off the bike to its best ability. It has the capability to be a do everything motorcycle I'm sure!
Another one tries to do battle with the BMW S1000XR - I will watch with interest :)
Nice one Chopsy! I find these multis always a bit flat down low, my R1250R doesn't have that issue. Looks comfortable, but maybe a bit boring..?!
I think Suzuki will sell quite a few of these.
It's just disappointing that they still don't fit good tyres.
Welcome to Portugal Chopsy!
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Thanks John, great vid as always. I was thinking about waiting for this bike but after your review along with others and as I'm not intending to tour any more i'm ordering a Z H2 😁even though i'm old!!
I just turned 63 and I love my '20 ZH2 with the flashed ECU. (It out HPs my gen3 busa)
It's not my only bike, but I have taken some 3 day road trips on it. (I bought it ASAP in '20, so it's pre SE version.) You will love it.
Seems like a perfectly good bike with a lot of good tech but its just missing a little bit of refinement and the wow factor. Having owned a few Suzukis they really know how to make a lovely motor. Like you I love a bit more excitement and I don’t mind a few vibes and bit of a lively throttle when it translates into smiles per hour. I’d really like to give it a test ride but it’d have to be special to replace the XR. Looking forward to prt2 and seeing if you can wind it up a bit! 😎 👌
A ECU flash and exhaust transforms that engine especially at the bottom and mid range euro 5/6 😢
Thanks Mat 👍
Call me a cheap bastard but I’d just buy a set of Shad fittings and move those boxes over. Add some handlebar risers and it seems like the bike I should have.
Man, Suzuki is really putting out good models atm.
I was really excited by the idea of this bike, genuinely thought it would be replacing my s1000xr...... not so sure now.....
Still try one, I'm looking forward to testing it back in the UK with some better rubber and routes I know! Unfortunately think they shot themselves in the foot a little with the routes
@LambChopRides unfortunately, bar bmw, getting test rides on new bikes here in Ireland doesn't happen, we rely on you guys to know what bikes are really like. Looking forward to more of your reviews.
I only came here to see if I was in it, and John's given me about a second at the end, the git. I'm never talking to him again.
Good vid tho mate 😍
Haha, hello Simon, Part 2 buddy, don't you worry! 😁👍
Ah, the sequel!
Not jealous at all of a sunny test ride in Portugal 🤣🤣
Everyone seems to rave about that K5 engine but the Ninja 1000sx (which doesn't get much love) beats it everywhere, except if you're over 9000rpm. The did a back to back of the GT v Ninja 1000sx on a dyno and the Ninja whooped it for everyday riding and made so much more power from 3000-9000rpm.
So versys 1000 will be faster? It doesn't look like it even though versys has even more power on this rev range. Best engine for the GX bike would be the Bandit's 1250 engine. 4 cylinders and alot of torgue low revs
@@gerokatseros Probably not the Versys as they "re-tune" the engine for the bigger/heavier bike but the Ninja 1000sx should be in real world riding.
I've noticed for the most part you tend to drive the bike at the "wrong" rev range .
These engines want to be revved and thats where they are happy and their owners :)
Nice review. Looking forward to part 2. Seems decent & typical Suzuki. A few compromises & corners cut but mechanically bulletproof & they give you what you need if not always what you want. Speaking of which why not just put some decent tyres on it as standard as the cost is minimal & would make a huge difference. As for the GX v GT, I guess the difference is the GT is analog, cheaper & sportier than the GX. Personally if I wanted a sports tourer, I''d go for the GT for those reasons.
Take it that was a fatal at 22.30? Telsa turning left with a Smart car behind and a truck going into that bend at 50mph?
As a former Tracer900 owner,prices have went up 100% with this in only 5yrs,my new Tracer was £7500 OTR...crazy! Like every other strangled motor, it needs a de-cat link pipe,airfilter and a flash, get the 150bhp out of it(restricted to 130bhp out of the showroom),might improve the low end pull? I would have one,just not at £15+k...I'll wait for an ex-demo and save the vat!
Chopsie - watched your review as well as Neevsey’s on MCN. Suspension sounds trick, and getting feel on electronic suspension is a challenge (I bought a non-electronic 17 S1000R as the electronic version was very numb when you are “full sized” chap with body mass in the three digits). Wish Suzuki would provide brakes with feel, as BMW, Ducati, Aprilia and KTM seem to be able to do. Suzuki also tends to put “ok” rubber as OEM - a set of Rosso IV would make a world of difference. To fix those issues you close the gap to an XR
Yes absolutely! It's a great bike it's just let down by the rubber. It's not as sporty as the XR but it's more comfortable, so depends what your looking for 👍
I really hope Suzuki take the Gsxs-1000 and throw the suspension and dash from the GX on to it, I really think that would sell really well, i’d definitely buy one!
Nice to see Neevsey and Mosey. Studs.
Still love the hjcRPHA 1 ,MINE IS THE KYLO REN RPHA 1.so light and great wind resistance ❤mmmmm love the bike non adjustable screen mmm would have to change that
I think I’ll stick to my GT. Good to see Suzuki bring out new bikes though.
Just like before, you better make a comparo between this bike vs. S1000 XR, Versys SE, Tracer 900GT+ V100 Mandello, NT1100, and Turismo Veloce(the underrated crossover from MV Agusta).
Forgot sdgt
If only they made a premium equivalent with a Busa motor to give it the bottom end shove.
But as it is, would you choose this or a GS 1300 for bitumin touring? Im guessing this would be smoother but the GS low end go is desirable... How about comfort wise?
The new Vstrom 1050 has the IMU as well in the Suzuki range.
But lacks top end power. I test rode one and was left completely underwhelmed.
Can some experienced riders educate me.
Is the IMU really needed?
I was looking at buying a used 1000GT. They're around 5k cheaper than a new GX.. i know an IMU offers more safety, but is it really worth it over used GT? Will it always save you in the rain mid corner?
This looked like quite a sedated lunch, compared with some other more crazy ones. Have you had a chance to open it up?
Yeah it was 👍
So should I part with my GSX-S1000F which has bugger all electronic trickery to break, got the simplest LCD dash, could do with a better seat, has a Yoshimura exhaust. No I'll stick with it.
What's with the bot comments on this video. Weird!! Anyhow, nice vid Chops.. Keep it up lad :)
Bots.. didn't notice any..
Beautiful part 1 .. can't wait for part 2 ... i am between this bike , VSTORM 1050 (street version) and TRACER 9 ... I wish in your next video you will point out where each bike is better or worse than the GX . I have alway wanted a bike like this but with the engine of a BANDIT 1250S than i own... thanks alot
Great bike, I mean the GX, but also others you mentioned are cool. For the Tracer 9 stuff... just drop by, have plenty of its content. Yesterday my ADV videos started... :)
@@RRRRefuelRideRace I will drop by, the question is how does the gx compare to Tracer 9. I don't like to have a bike to rev high to get the torgue. I found the tracer 9 having little torgue in low revs
@@gerokatseros Thanks mate. It is a lot about your previous bike. I rode many bikes, even some very powerful and extremely torqy, but the Tracer 9 has just enough torque. At least for me. Recently I rode the latest Guzzi and Ducati, but I didn't notice a huge difference in torque among all of them. To be honest, I rode them "normally". The difference is evident if you compare it to the BMW latest 1250 and 1300 cc boxer. There the Tracer is not inline, evidently. You have to try the GX. I am also interested to try it.
Hi Chopsy, great review. I just wish wish wish Suzuki would've made this bike with the new Hayabusa motor in it. . . . .
Now that would have been something wouldn't it!! 👊✊️
Absolutely Chopsy, abso bloody lutely 😁😁👍👍🏍🏍🤣🤣 See then Chopsy, the bike could be competing against the new BMW M1000XR no? Ahh well. Cheers mate.
these are the love child of the GT and the VSTROM. They look ok but I wouldn’t pick one over the gt or the VSTROM!
the nailed the looks. a little more low end torque would be nice but i’m sure this will sell well for suzuki
It’s not the only bike in the Suzuki range that has an IMU. The Vstrom DL1050 does too.
C'mon Suzuki, give us the ESA option on the Busa.
Follow Kawi's lead with the standard and SE options, guess which version will get dropped for being outsold?
Nice review.. between this bike and the vstrom 1050 which one do you prefer more?
I would take this for sure 👍
Suzuki hit the spot with the K5 engine
however
I'd like to see a new, cool looking cruiser from Suzuki with the V-Strom 1050 engine
Full exhaust and an ecu flash and the bike gains 15hp and is a lot more thrilling.
Yeah absolutely it would! 👍
I see why they have done this. however, I think it will struggle. I can't understand why some of that tech isn't on the vstrom 1050 it would still come in cheaper than say an Africa Twin.
Hi
At 25:14
When you are discussing the A riding mode, why was the suspension manually set up for "pillion" or "passenger"?
I like this channel, but problem with these launches, is the reviews tend to be always favourable. I think MCN review was good here, as they weren’t so complying in their feedback
I am really interested in this bike in a couple of years when I where down my kawasaki
Great assesment,thks.
Something 'just' dawned on me. The passion that the Brits have for motorcycling. Where does it come from?
I have a GSX-S1000GT. I am 69 years old. I am very happy and don't really think I need to get the GX.
How does it feel in low revs?
@@gerokatseros It pulls nicely from 2500 RPM and gets exciting above 5000.
As a Suzuki guy, I had such high hopes for this one, but it seems they've neutered the K5 engine even further from the other already-neutered models. I'll pass...
The engine does seem a bit underwhelming tbh.
That's due to the European union emissions meddling.
Yeah I think euro5/6 is the issue.. pipe and tune!! 👊✊️
@@LambChopRides Yup, that'll fix it. But the pipe needs to be a Yoshimura, it is a Suzuki after all, leave the Akras for the rest 😄. Throw in a Moore Mafia tune and it should come alive!
The GT also has an IMU, just not a 6 axis one.
9:39 is the BB outtake!
Kinda a blue slower version of mu superduke gt
Like the weight 500lbs wet if it's real (I'm a Ducati guy and they tend to exaggerate sometimes)... don't see any power numbers but for a bike to meet the "superbike on stilts" metric IMO it needs more than 160hp (and a 160hp bike better have TORQUE because it'll be competing with 200hp bikes like the M1000XR - the SBoS king of the hill by a wide margin currently IMO).
Even if it doesn't quite hit the superbike level... it looks like what I'd describe as a REAL sport tourer (most bikes people think of as ST's are way too fat IMO... I'd say that 650lb bikes are not "sport" anything).
Well… if the bike is still “OK” good on a road that doesn’t fit the bike.. is is just a great bike.. 🤷🏻♂️ can’t wait to see the first tuned versions on a good road😏 I know a tuner in the Netherlands “Hoegee” can pull out 185hp out of those engines 😏
Absolutely!! It would be an absolute rocket ship and be more comfortable than the XR 👍
Struggling to think where Suzuki’s designers found their inspiration for this one 😂 Tracer GT anyone? 😂
I think GT looks better and probably quicker. Need to make a GTR 200bhp ! This bike looks good for off road or adventure. I don't like the look of the tracer 9 as well. It's probably because I own a GT.
Suzuki are doing much better is the screen any better on this bike etc (myspin)
Is the clutch lever span adjustable ?😄
Chopsey, would love to hear how it compares to the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello S. The MG has just 115 hp, but better low end grunt I would think. Rider triangle (peg distance) similar or better with GX?
Difference being the Suzuki won't break down every now and then lol
Would say rider triangle similar, certainly in the leg. More upper body comfort perhaps on the GX 👍
Gives MG owners solid reasoning for having a second bike for back-up ;-) @@dantton1987
Shame there is no top box available.
Available, bus as an option.
Love this bike and k5 engine but just don’t want electronic frippery
About time !! 😜
You can now buy the Suzuki gt for 9..5k low mileage with panniers! How much is this new?
Bargain!!
How bad is the headlight? The headlight on my '23 V-Strom 800DE is so bad the bike shouldn't be street legal.
Unfortunately didn't get the opportunity to ride it in the dark sorry
@@LambChopRides Thank you. I'll check owner reviews for this information.
Flat at the bottom goes away after a ECU flash night and day difference low down
Yeah I can imagine 👍👍
any suggestions?
Do you know when you will get the GSX-8R, Chopsy?
Launch is January, I've not been invited yet though..
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Would you rather own one of these or the new 1300 GS John?
Good question... would need to spend a bit more time on the GS.. Probably this as want more focus on performance 👍
Still waiting for the V-strom 800 SE. 😊
Which engine will take more abuse kawasaki 1000sx or suzuki gsx s1000gx? (Durability)?
Both excellent!! I don't think you could choose between them on that front 👍
This might be the first review I've seen were you've not been mega excited and said you might buy one. That fella you spoke to wasn't arsed either. Suppose suzuki have made a Versys 1000 which imo is it's competition. Decent bike, does everything well but just dull.
No don't think that, I've actually asked if I could have a long termer. I want to try some sticky tyres and a few mods to perfect it! I'm sure there is possibility there for it to be the class leader
10:42 same in the US as well.
Is there a model available without the electronic suspension?
No. On that matter, Suzuki never introduce basic amenities as optional, but as a standard.
Yes it's called the GT 😜
@LambChopRides plot twist: Suzuki update the GT with electronic suspension.
😂
Bet your looking forward to testing the new BEAST!! #ktmftw :)
Yes received the launch invitation today! 🤗
ii suppose it's not a good replacement for gs 1250 comfort?
Not quite as much comfort as the GS, but one of the most comfortable cross over machines
thx man@@LambChopRides
Unfortunately, Suzuki has added far too much tech, in my opinion. Why spend thousands of pounds on tall lanky/flash electronic suspension and other wizardry but then leave off an important thing like a centre stand it beggers belief. This bike might be appreciated by folk who are tall with long legs, but bang for buck the GT version is the one I would buy, especially as it would suit my shorter inside leg and save quite a few thousand pounds at the same time.
17” inch front wheel seems an odd choice? I thought they’d gone out of fashion.
No it's the best size 😜👍
When we getting part 2 chopsy
Soon, hopefully Wedsnesday 👍
Katana looks cooler to be honest and seems just as comfortable for the gramps.