Shields all took a book out of the GIGN anti-terror operations that happened in France a few years back when they had a way worse terrorist situation: I remember seeing one of the french cops with a shield absolutely BUM RUSHING into a store that had a barricaded terrorist inside. Finally they make sense. EDIT: 9 years ago, jewish supermarket was taken over, 4 hostages dead. The video showed one of the GIGN rush in with a shield when the shooting began, while at LEAST 20 guys backed him up to provide support and they made entry shortly after one of the gunmen tried to rush them. Those guys are badass heros, may as well make the videogame versions as badass.
GIGN are scary as fuck. I think Rook is based on the front-man during the Air France 8969 raid that took seven assault riffle bullets without slowing down. He only stepped down and let someone else take point after taking a shot to the face and a grenade blast as close range.
@@oleh3415 If you search "GIGN Market" the situation I'm talking about should be one of the first results from different news sources. It's wild seeing them all bunched up in the footage.
@@NonsenseOblige The thick French lads Rook and Doc both are dressed almost exactly like the heavily armored GIGN in real life, down to the padding placement and drop-down visor. The Pathfinder operators all take a design note from their respective units: The FBI ops use an (outdated) 90's SWAT vest for all of them, just different attachments. German police are notorious for having their equipment in their vehicles and responding to situations in their civilian clothes with kit thrown on top, in particular you'll see a lot of them in pictures just wearing blue denim jeans. Glaz has a typical Russian uniform.
I really don’t know why people are scared of shields because of these changes. They’re offensively worse than ever now, they’re not gonna kill you so look out for the teammates behind them. Their ADS speed is still very slow and their melee is the same as Oryx - you get to ADS before they do. People are overreacting to these changes. I don’t think this rework is much of a buff and considering how bad shields are right now and how much it nerfs their offensive ability.
yea i guess Ubi got fed up with getting bug reports about shields so they figured that changing them into being just bad to use will make it so there will be less bug reports honestly at this point, aside from enemy team basically throwing the game, im not sure how shields are supposed to even defend themselves against 2 or more people, between melee giving someone a good look at your legs and hipfire gone you are kinda out of options, but what do i know, according to people who never play shields shield ops are op so eh
As a monty main I am worried. Hipfire was such an integral part to shielding. Even though you may not kill the person pressuring you, you prevent them from getting any closer. Im really worried about that suppression mechanic and no decrease to ads speed is crazy to me. It shouldn’t be fast but definitely should be as slow as it is.
As someone who plays a lot of shield I’m not a fan of this change . I feel like this has taken away so much lethality especially if your in a 1v2 or something. Meleee was a huge part of your kit but now it loooks so low dmg . I can see how they’ll be better as a support op but I think it limits their versatility too much . Like if you have two team mates get spawn killed or something then your so limited
The knock down animation is way too quick too so even if you get the chance to melee you're probably going to die still because they'll be aiming before you can
I mean their has to be some kind of downside to Shields considering how powerful having something that blocks all gunfire and provides pressure alongside your teammates is. Of course you'll be worse off if your whole team dies, I think that's a proper downside. Shields can't be Support/Pressure and also have high Lethality, you have to be limited somewhere or they're just overpowered lmao
@@1983Corolla ya but the slower ads , inaccurate hipfire etc all make them less lethal than a guy with a full auto gun . Especially if they have a c4 etc . I just feel like the current rework makes them too vulnerable especially in a 1v2 . Like current shields are barely chosen due to lower lethality yet the rework makes them even less lethal so . (Also super buggy so one reason they arnt chosen ) . I just feel like they need another offensive option if they lose hipfire , their shield bash does like nothing in terms of dmg . I just feel like they need something to help them get a kill if your down a teammate or something. Maybe old ads speed? I know blitz is gonna be better with this rework but I feel like Monty and fuze are gonna struggle especially when it’s a tdm meta and not a utility plant meta . Hell even some of the easier plants like coastline kitchen door have been removed so it’s a lot harder to get a plant down anyway . Border lockers and chalet garage or bank downstairs are the main Monty spots I can think of left . But osa has taken over that roll anyway so . Idk I just feel shields need a tad more lethality due to current meta
No absolutely this is garbage. No more 1v3 enemies with blitz. Ubisoft ruins everything they touch bruh. For Honor. Siege. If it weren’t for my buddy starting to play siege for the first time because of jynxzi I probably wouldn’t have done Bach to this shit show
@@Tonis197 i think almost every elite skin is bugged atp. But cavs was a problem that lasted for atleast 2 years which annoyed me since i loved the design on the silencer.
The suppression mechanic on shield seems to be what most people have been asking for years. I would say that i would want it to go further with LMGs pushing back shields after sustain fire. But happy to finally able to see something like this in game.
Wow, with these shield changes you NEED coordiation with the team more than ever now. This is assuming if this goes through as its in the test server currently
They literally made them useless and defend less in 1v1s. I don't see how this changes the teamplay dynamic, but that's gonna be what you'll rely on if you want to shield...
@@Soliye.The only thing that's really buffs is if a shield player wants to go in and plant and not planning on surviving literally just helping their team planted a diffuser then die on the spot. A legit strategy that I use sometimes but it's not useful for a shield character always to do that because there's a lot of times where you can survive and get back to controlling the area. And with the melee damage you will no longer be threatening at all so everyone on the enemy team can easily rush you hit you and kill you and the only thing you can do is aim down sights to try to stop them which everyone will be prepared for and seeing how you can only push a person over if two people rush you you have nothing you can do because if you push both of them down by the time you're ready to aim at one of them the other ones already pointing their gun at you
Monty will actually get a buff with this. Everyone else is nerfed. Blitz is hurt the most because he already had sprint protection. And now he can’t blind and melee. He has to ADS and shoot. Only Monty is viable
@@superjlk_9538 I've been a Monty man for 5 years not being able to stop 2 or more people from running up to you and hitting you and all you can do is look at them or push them and then let them shoot your feet or head when you try to ADS... I don't see that as a buff. you hitting them is no longer threatening if they have a teammate at all nearby
@@Soliye.shields aren’t for being aggressive in a 1v1. Look ate real world ballistic shields and tell be that people are sprinting into a room filled with people with guns and explosives and expecting to “melee” people with said shield. This is a great change and the community needs to get over it. SMH
Personal take, without blitz’s insta kill melee hits, he should gain a passive resistance or complete immunity to the shield slowdown effect, in line with his “blitz” rush strategy
@@killerlamas3532As fun as bonking is you're definitely better off just shooting people lmao. Either flash and get them while they're panicking or shoot them in the back while they run away since they're faster than you.
@kirbyis4ever We won't, if you look at the blitz model in the beta test server a chunk of his feet and face was cut off. I think varsity did a vid on this
I’d like if they utilized the left and right arrow keys on controller for the leaning seeing as they are only otherwise utilized with gadgets. That would also allow people to remap it to fit their play style more seamless
Yeah i've been waiting for years for that cav silencer skin to actually work. Hopefully it's actually fixes. Maybe one day they'll even fix interrogation not having a knife...
The melee change is horrible. Shields now basically have 0 offensive power and are a guaranteed 1v1 loss. The melee pushing people down literally is a death sentence as now it will be even easier for your enemies to shoot your feet.
@@g8x2keeper These changes mean that when you melee someone as a shield operator before you can even aim down your sights, they are already aimed down theirs and shooting at your legs? They get to shoot you first, no matter how good you are at one tapping, they shoot first.
This makes no sense.. Why do they nerf Monty and Blitz of all operators, totally stupid changes which they should revert. They could have easily just added sights onto their pistols and made them be able to throw smokes from behind their shield but no they have to nerf hip firing, meleeing with shields and the time it takes to ADS.
They added smoke throwing behind the shield, ross showed it in the video. It's not a nerf or buff, the core mechanics were changed and it's better described as a rework. Sighted pistols sucks, they do less damage to compensate for the better sight picture. Shields are supporting ops, the Melee and hip fire mechanics promoted a 50/50 play style where either person could die and the outplay mechanics were boring and unfun. A shield should thrive with a teammate and suffer alone, these changes push that play style more. Hip lean is good I guess but I don't play console not my area of expertise.
@@drjamaymay405 getting to throw smokes from behind shield is in no way a fair tradeoff for losing melee kills, hipfire, and ability to sprint while being shot at. calling this a rework is outrageous when its almost a flat out hard nerf to blitz at least
@@uktt2426 blitz is nerfed by proxy because the Monty and fuze are getting buffed. I have a bias and really like Monty, I think he is the ideal shield and his playsty benefits the most from these changes. I do admit that blitz loses a lot because of his aggressive nature. The blitz play style feels degenerate in the fact that blitz dies trying to close the distance or he gets close and blinds then kills the enemy. This is why I am okay with him losing out while the sit tight and give info style of Monty gets buffed. I believe it will benefit the game more.
I think that holding a gadget button (even if you dont have one) should allow you to hipfire lean. The ads one is still a step in the right direction though.
Shields nerfed, G36 nerfed, Fenrir, Solis and Tubarao unchanged but look guys you can finally change the colour of Cavs silencer. I used to be really excited for test server and the changes that came with it but honestly I’m so disincentivised to play Rainbow Six these days. I really hope invite will bring some sort of spark back but I’m not holding my breath.
Overall shields have been heavy nerfed including Blitz worst of all. Their offense is practically gone now as their hit is only a knockdown which means they can shoot back while you're still ADSing. Wish this game died already
Shields are not meant to get kills directly. They are a supporting role who gather information and force the enemy to fight at a disadvantage. Hip fire gunfighting behind a shield was hoping for a lucky headshot, not good gameplay.
@drjamaymay405 Supports in siege have a form of reliable offense so your arguement is void. Shield ops were made with different tactics in mind. Monty is pure support and pressure with little offense which is fine. Blitz was made to be pure offense with a blind to encourage gunplay from blitz. Hes also effectively a roam clearer. *No one thinks the hip fire was good except a knock down into a hip
@@Emilio-lz5ux I agree that blitz suffers the most. It's much better for Monty and I believe his play style is better for the game then blitz. I never liked blitz, ying, or glaz when he had no movement penalty. They all promoted a degenerate play style of hyper aggressive rush. I prefer the game slower and more focused on utility, and this change slows down the shields while giving them more utility for the team. Blitz has his place as a pocket pick but he should never be great.
There are multiple elite skins that refuse to show the swap, like Cav's luison suppressor always being the default one even if you swap to the elite one
As a Shield player this looks like overall a nerf. Gonna get worse down more without hip fire range. Now when you get close you don’t even down and get shot back knocking defenders. Nah. 😂
Shields can gather info better, their Melee doesn't expose their body as much, making it great to stun an opponent and give a teammate a pick. They can't fight at range alone but with a teammate, they gain an advantage. I believe the rework will promote a more engaging play style as and against shields.
@@drjamaymay405why not just run ying at that point? Or run operators with flash grenades? Really no point in picking blitz when monty is just a better version of him now that he can sprint like him
@@Sanelav Yng & Monty isn't a blitz replacement. Ying Monty double smoke is a plant based execute. Blitz is effective against isolated targets, better for a roam clear and remove flex players caught out. Ying and Monty taking 2 slots forces the play to be a site hit and blitz can be fused into many different attacks.
@@drjamaymay405 You cant roam clear as effectively with blitz now. The reason it was so good before was because you can do it quickly and surprise people. Now they can slow you down by shooting your shield and ask for help from their teammates or just simply run away. A large amount of my roam clear kills with blitz were finding people in random corners and just 1 tap melee them without even flashing sometimes. Instead of that i have to spend 3.5 seconds melee him 4 times or expose my body and ads him with the slowest ads speed in the game. Blitz is also supposed to be good at taking site which now is a lot harder now. You cant kill enemies nearly as quick as before. You have to spend so much time committing to one guy it leaves you exposed to other enemies. I only play blitz unless hes banned or picked already so trust me when i say its a massive nerf
I am already so sick of getting headshot while looking directly at someone with a shield as blitz, so now that they are also going to be slowing me down when I try to chase someone for sure makes me not want to play shields anymore, this feels like a MEGA NERF for already bad shields.
I think that the should take damage if it remains underfired for a certain time (force shields to take cover) and I'm not saying that it should stay like that but if you have the whole team shooting at you you should take damage to every 5 or 6 bullets .
Ubisoft is just such an L right now. Siege is such a good game and literally the only one they make that people care about yet they barely work on it, instead making tons of other games that fail over and over.
I hope they're ready to change the suppression mechanic at the beginning of year 9, cuz it currently feels like it's gonna be fairly weak rn, but I haven't really played w it. It seems like the perfect nob to balance shields w tho.
I think a slight damage buff up to 45 and it’s perfect. Don’t know how they could add lean without ads without removing a button, unless if it was another interaction, perhaps replace left and right on the d pad, and move drone and camera to aim+Left Click and aim+Right Click? It’s a bit unintuitive but I can’t think of any other way
@@jPlanerv2 I'm assuming you mean 3-armors because 35 damage will already 3-hit 3-speeds but 45 would be just enough to 3-hit 3-armor where it would require 4 with 35
I think shields doing any damage at all is more than fair given that they keep themselves far safer now (both during their melee animation and during sprint) and have airjab knockdowns. Shields should be enabling kills for their teammates, not doing the killing themselves. I'd argue that this version of shields shouldn't do any melee damage at all tbh. I love the rework outside of that aspect
Nope. Not a good take. Two shields hunting roamers can both charge them at once and it will only take 3 hits between both to down that's not going to be balanced at all for defending roamers let alone 3 shields sprinting and hunting roamers
@@Sean_Connery yeah, 2 shield ops should be able to take down 1 guy, and 3 hits means the one can still fight back, but it will prove challenging if you don't play it well, as should be the case. I mean, in the live build Blitz can do exactly what you are saying by himself and it is an insta-down so I genuinely don't get what your point is.
That rework of shield is so shit like its bad nobody was using shield and after this nobody will play shield at all they might as well get em out of the game. The rework feels like u have a bullet prof carboard in front of u. the melee is dumb af. in my opinion the shields shouldn't be touched just like drones and other stuff that is core of the game. And they keep adding shit to the game which nobody asked and keep nerfing the stuff than nobody asked to be nerfed. And instead of all the bullshit they are doing now they can fix the servers and the broken maps people ban as well as a whole bunch of unbalanced operators which deserve a buff or a rework like Clash where she is of the chart from how bad she is - > AND THEY ARE NERFING HER!!!! like why . and Blackbeard... Instead of ubi bullshit we should get a health operation to fix the broken shit and rework to shit which needs fixing.
You are hallucinating, clash is a good operator when you 5 stack and coordinate, and this rework with shields is great, makes a lot of operators playable in different ways to be creative, from going to a support role, to an entry role with the barricade interaction
People do use shields, it's just the average player hates shields. The shield player can't shoot a gun, which is the main reason one plays an fps, to shoot bullets at people. And when you face a shield you can't kill them, which sucks because you play an fps to kill other people with bullets. These changes are great, the hip fire and current melee insta-down are unfun 50/50 mechanics. It feels like every fight against a shield is a die roll and I could stagger them and kill them, or they Melee first and I go down. Shields are meant to be supporting ops and these changes push them into that play style more. Stop complaining about other issues when 1 change is being tested. Just because shields are getting touched up doesn't mean they are ignoring other issues. Game balance and server outages are handled by two different teams, working on one is not pulling resources from the other.
@@drjamaymay405 ap doasnt hate shields its the pro league who complains about the fun of the game and they wana take it away rainbow was never meant to be like cs or val its always been on the fun side and by them making these bullshit changes like the frags who tf asked for that or nokk nerf... what am getting at they wana 5op meta and to change it once a year. That is gona kill this game
If its op as people say. Make Aruni a direct counter(if shes not already) to shields. Like ONE Melee from Her to shields should push them down like shield melee knockback but not full shiled Monty
Why's everyone saying the new shields are trash they are so much better than before. Old shield problems: - can shoot legs and shoulders - slow - vulnerable reload - vulnerable ads - easy to walk up to and melee - easy to c4 because slow - cant deploy grenades without revealing themselves New shield problems: - easy to shoot legs and shoulders - can't hipfire - can be slowed by constant gunfire - melee doesnt down people instantly Thats it. If the new shield melee sucks, then so does oryx and nomads abilities. Hipfire was a blight on shield gameplay as it was not fun for anybody. Sure they can be slowed by gunfire, at which point your opponent reloads and you shoot them in the face. People complain that they're just as easy to kill as before with teamwork, but then take teamwork out of the equation for the shield operator. Shield operators were never meant to be solo operators.
Actually it is, but I think it's good, since blitz doesn't has a lot of room to punish, just if the blitz is braindead, but yeah, is kinda nice to see the new shields
I would love hip lean on console but with Xim still being a thing it’s gonna be even worse cause Hip lean on MnK is so much better. I feel like they should wait with this one until they fixed Mousetrap or not implement it at all
having to ads to hip lean is just as bad as only leaning while ads. the whole point of un-ads leaning is to have full movement speed while quick peeking and face checking. it’s gonna be *better* swinging around corners pre leaned so you can have better vision before aiming but still it seems useless 90% of the time but i could be wrong.
Why should I have to waste my time filling out a feedback survey for someone who will not even consider my individual opinion anyway? It’s a chore. I’ll finally admit it, Ubisoft is actually running the game into the ground now….
shields lost their insta kill on melee a long time ago, for quite some time now the melee just downs you, now if the changes go into effect it will slightly tickle you and give you a nice angle at their legs
I think they're really low count on development team, they're not spending any additional money to the development.. - these changes are very vague and it will be re-discussed once this patch is online..
a 5 stack of shields wont be a problem at all cause they basically need someone supporting them now. maybe you could get away with 4 shields and 1 gun but even that's a stretch
The whole lean thing on console is what's gonna bother me, now we'll have m&k players that will be able to hide it even more with that change coming, ubisoft clearly don't give a damn about console
The console community wants hip lean. Unless this is a situation of a vocal minority, they have been very supportive of adding hip lean for years. Ubisoft adding hip leaning would suggest that they do care. I am not aware of how mouse trap catches cheaters, but i dont think that adding hip lean would make it harder to detect. I believe that adding a new mechanic would give mouse trap one more metric to track. This would allow a cheater and regular player to differ even more,albeit very minorly, and increase the efficacy of mouse trap.
They are the same size, the first person model just has them seen from a different perspective (further from the camera) which would make the shield appear to be smaller from your end
I'm glad they reworked shields so that they're just as trash, but differently. No but seriously, wtf... 1. Gun down the shield while he walks or runs toward you, knock his shield away, shoot & kill. 2. If he melees first, just melee back once you're up (since he can't get you back down right away) and shoot to kill. 3. While running, you can slow him down while an ally shoots his legs. 4. You can just stand in his line of sight and not be afraid of randomly getting shot by him, so just aim at their head and wait, or push and melee since there's really nothing he can do because if he melees first, just do step 2. This encourages teamplay, as they're not any good in 1v1 situations. Thing is, they already played almost the exact same way if they two or three stack push using one shield. So basically all this does is make your day a living nightmare if you're the last one standing and have a basic shield. Downing in one melee & being able to randomly shoot, to me, made it a lot more hazardous for enemies. Now if you're alone, they can push you with no fear.
the interaction with clash is not a nerf lol, if a shield player could get into that situation before, clash would just die instantly instead of being tossed around
I wish they just made low-mid recoil for every gun. That shit affects the op more than their gadget does and inturn can ruin an operator like ela or zofia because they become unreliable in gunfights
@@kakapip1366 ikr like lion does it for example, n it looks so odd, i think the only one it works on is solis because its like she is mimicking her visor turning on
Ngl the gun behind the shield... I don't think that'll have a big impact. Whenever I play shield people easily kill me by shooting my legs, or when I'm crouched walking either my feet or my head. This might be different on console but on PC it's just too easy to snipe the few parts of you that aren't covered by the shield, and since you are so incredibly slow they have all the time in the world to just tick you down while you waddle on with no way to defend yourself
I mean, they could add auto sprint on console, use the melee like the destiny and halo one, and pull your gadget and grenade on the empty dpad slot, that could fix a lot
@irishgaming1651 Right on dpad is to throw or use drone so that wouldn’t work and left on dpad is to switch ability modes and drop defuser. Like i said you can’t swap anything out, every button slot is taken up already with essential things
@@drazven2785yes an auto sprint would be good but then comes the problem on how far do i push the stick to slow walk, normal walk, then run. Also does auto sprint take you out of crouch or prone when analog is pushed fully forward… this whole leaning thing will just a new mechanic to learn n im ok with that
Nerfing g36 is just braindead the weapon it self is far from op the dmg is under average and fire rate is average. The reason everyone is playing the G36 is because ash can’t equipe 1.5 on rc and ianna second weapon has legit better stats but has 10 bullets Les Ubisoft is so braindead
Basic features being added years later lmao.
Game died mid year 4
@@mrautismo420 i started velvet shell and stopped when that solis girl came out. Got tired of the terrible balancing .
@@grph1t3z then why are you even watching siege content still if you don't play the game anymore
Yea, sure. A basic feature that was not basic on console you goofball. Stfu
@@morce6163 lmao found the ubi and siege shill. I can keep myself informed on a game I used to play lmao.
as a monty main back in year 1. I am happy to see a sprint monty.
that or taking the tachanka glitch to have a 3 speed monty.
damn the tachanka glitch, what a callback
Shields all took a book out of the GIGN anti-terror operations that happened in France a few years back when they had a way worse terrorist situation: I remember seeing one of the french cops with a shield absolutely BUM RUSHING into a store that had a barricaded terrorist inside. Finally they make sense.
EDIT: 9 years ago, jewish supermarket was taken over, 4 hostages dead. The video showed one of the GIGN rush in with a shield when the shooting began, while at LEAST 20 guys backed him up to provide support and they made entry shortly after one of the gunmen tried to rush them. Those guys are badass heros, may as well make the videogame versions as badass.
where can i watch the footage
GIGN are scary as fuck. I think Rook is based on the front-man during the Air France 8969 raid that took seven assault riffle bullets without slowing down. He only stepped down and let someone else take point after taking a shot to the face and a grenade blast as close range.
@@oleh3415 If you search "GIGN Market" the situation I'm talking about should be one of the first results from different news sources. It's wild seeing them all bunched up in the footage.
@@NonsenseOblige The thick French lads Rook and Doc both are dressed almost exactly like the heavily armored GIGN in real life, down to the padding placement and drop-down visor. The Pathfinder operators all take a design note from their respective units: The FBI ops use an (outdated) 90's SWAT vest for all of them, just different attachments. German police are notorious for having their equipment in their vehicles and responding to situations in their civilian clothes with kit thrown on top, in particular you'll see a lot of them in pictures just wearing blue denim jeans. Glaz has a typical Russian uniform.
I really don’t know why people are scared of shields because of these changes. They’re offensively worse than ever now, they’re not gonna kill you so look out for the teammates behind them. Their ADS speed is still very slow and their melee is the same as Oryx - you get to ADS before they do. People are overreacting to these changes. I don’t think this rework is much of a buff and considering how bad shields are right now and how much it nerfs their offensive ability.
theyre like a drone except you can kill them
yea i guess Ubi got fed up with getting bug reports about shields so they figured that changing them into being just bad to use will make it so there will be less bug reports
honestly at this point, aside from enemy team basically throwing the game, im not sure how shields are supposed to even defend themselves against 2 or more people, between melee giving someone a good look at your legs and hipfire gone you are kinda out of options, but what do i know, according to people who never play shields shield ops are op so eh
As a monty main I am worried. Hipfire was such an integral part to shielding. Even though you may not kill the person pressuring you, you prevent them from getting any closer. Im really worried about that suppression mechanic and no decrease to ads speed is crazy to me. It shouldn’t be fast but definitely should be as slow as it is.
If you relied on hipfire and melee as a shield user then I'm gonna have to say skill issue.
@@Zalazaar am I not supposed to use those two crucial aspects of shielding? Lol
As someone who plays a lot of shield I’m not a fan of this change . I feel like this has taken away so much lethality especially if your in a 1v2 or something. Meleee was a huge part of your kit but now it loooks so low dmg . I can see how they’ll be better as a support op but I think it limits their versatility too much . Like if you have two team mates get spawn killed or something then your so limited
The knock down animation is way too quick too so even if you get the chance to melee you're probably going to die still because they'll be aiming before you can
I mean their has to be some kind of downside to Shields considering how powerful having something that blocks all gunfire and provides pressure alongside your teammates is. Of course you'll be worse off if your whole team dies, I think that's a proper downside. Shields can't be Support/Pressure and also have high Lethality, you have to be limited somewhere or they're just overpowered lmao
@@1983Corolla ya but the slower ads , inaccurate hipfire etc all make them less lethal than a guy with a full auto gun . Especially if they have a c4 etc . I just feel like the current rework makes them too vulnerable especially in a 1v2 . Like current shields are barely chosen due to lower lethality yet the rework makes them even less lethal so . (Also super buggy so one reason they arnt chosen ) . I just feel like they need another offensive option if they lose hipfire , their shield bash does like nothing in terms of dmg . I just feel like they need something to help them get a kill if your down a teammate or something. Maybe old ads speed? I know blitz is gonna be better with this rework but I feel like Monty and fuze are gonna struggle especially when it’s a tdm meta and not a utility plant meta . Hell even some of the easier plants like coastline kitchen door have been removed so it’s a lot harder to get a plant down anyway . Border lockers and chalet garage or bank downstairs are the main Monty spots I can think of left . But osa has taken over that roll anyway so . Idk I just feel shields need a tad more lethality due to current meta
No absolutely this is garbage. No more 1v3 enemies with blitz. Ubisoft ruins everything they touch bruh. For Honor. Siege. If it weren’t for my buddy starting to play siege for the first time because of jynxzi I probably wouldn’t have done Bach to this shit show
Amen. I liked playing Monty but now he seems not very good.
THEY FINALLY FIXED CAVS SILENCER THANK GOD.
was wondering if this would ever get fixed
thunder bird also has a glitched gadget skin
@@Tonis197 i think almost every elite skin is bugged atp. But cavs was a problem that lasted for atleast 2 years which annoyed me since i loved the design on the silencer.
It's crazy how it never occurred to any of you to show the new shield empty reloads
The suppression mechanic on shield seems to be what most people have been asking for years. I would say that i would want it to go further with LMGs pushing back shields after sustain fire. But happy to finally able to see something like this in game.
Wow, with these shield changes you NEED coordiation with the team more than ever now.
This is assuming if this goes through as its in the test server currently
They literally made them useless and defend less in 1v1s.
I don't see how this changes the teamplay dynamic, but that's gonna be what you'll rely on if you want to shield...
@@Soliye.The only thing that's really buffs is if a shield player wants to go in and plant and not planning on surviving literally just helping their team planted a diffuser then die on the spot. A legit strategy that I use sometimes but it's not useful for a shield character always to do that because there's a lot of times where you can survive and get back to controlling the area. And with the melee damage you will no longer be threatening at all so everyone on the enemy team can easily rush you hit you and kill you and the only thing you can do is aim down sights to try to stop them which everyone will be prepared for and seeing how you can only push a person over if two people rush you you have nothing you can do because if you push both of them down by the time you're ready to aim at one of them the other ones already pointing their gun at you
Monty will actually get a buff with this. Everyone else is nerfed. Blitz is hurt the most because he already had sprint protection. And now he can’t blind and melee. He has to ADS and shoot. Only Monty is viable
@@superjlk_9538 I've been a Monty man for 5 years not being able to stop 2 or more people from running up to you and hitting you and all you can do is look at them or push them and then let them shoot your feet or head when you try to ADS... I don't see that as a buff. you hitting them is no longer threatening if they have a teammate at all nearby
@@Soliye.shields aren’t for being aggressive in a 1v1. Look ate real world ballistic shields and tell be that people are sprinting into a room filled with people with guns and explosives and expecting to “melee” people with said shield. This is a great change and the community needs to get over it. SMH
The devs solution to shields being bad is to... make them worthless?
Ubisoft never changes.
The Ace nerf is not a good change when Tubs has just been released. Hes got 48 seconds of wall denial. Even more combined with Bandit
Considering Ace was basically a soft counter to Bandit, I'm honestly really not bothered by this change. Ace was just too fast.
Ban Tub
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Personal take, without blitz’s insta kill melee hits, he should gain a passive resistance or complete immunity to the shield slowdown effect, in line with his “blitz” rush strategy
shooting has always been a better way to get kill w/ blitz anyway
@@killerlamas3532As fun as bonking is you're definitely better off just shooting people lmao. Either flash and get them while they're panicking or shoot them in the back while they run away since they're faster than you.
Meleeing in high ranks as blitz is very dangerous anyway
@@i_love_oily_black_men Hopefully with the rework we don't get shot in the head while having a big slab in front of our face. A safe smack
@kirbyis4ever We won't, if you look at the blitz model in the beta test server a chunk of his feet and face was cut off. I think varsity did a vid on this
I’d like if they utilized the left and right arrow keys on controller for the leaning seeing as they are only otherwise utilized with gadgets. That would also allow people to remap it to fit their play style more seamless
Yeah i've been waiting for years for that cav silencer skin to actually work. Hopefully it's actually fixes. Maybe one day they'll even fix interrogation not having a knife...
The melee change is horrible. Shields now basically have 0 offensive power and are a guaranteed 1v1 loss. The melee pushing people down literally is a death sentence as now it will be even easier for your enemies to shoot your feet.
It's actually the worst thing to happen to shields in this games history lol
They have offensive power because you can melee and shoot them. In a 1v1 it’s more sheild sided. The weakness of shields is supposed to be teamwork
@@g8x2keeper These changes mean that when you melee someone as a shield operator before you can even aim down your sights, they are already aimed down theirs and shooting at your legs? They get to shoot you first, no matter how good you are at one tapping, they shoot first.
@@HolyBingus you can shoot first???
This makes no sense..
Why do they nerf Monty and Blitz of all operators, totally stupid changes which they should revert. They could have easily just added sights onto their pistols and made them be able to throw smokes from behind their shield but no they have to nerf hip firing, meleeing with shields and the time it takes to ADS.
They added smoke throwing behind the shield, ross showed it in the video.
It's not a nerf or buff, the core mechanics were changed and it's better described as a rework.
Sighted pistols sucks, they do less damage to compensate for the better sight picture.
Shields are supporting ops, the Melee and hip fire mechanics promoted a 50/50 play style where either person could die and the outplay mechanics were boring and unfun. A shield should thrive with a teammate and suffer alone, these changes push that play style more.
Hip lean is good I guess but I don't play console not my area of expertise.
@@drjamaymay405 getting to throw smokes from behind shield is in no way a fair tradeoff for losing melee kills, hipfire, and ability to sprint while being shot at. calling this a rework is outrageous when its almost a flat out hard nerf to blitz at least
@@uktt2426 blitz is nerfed by proxy because the Monty and fuze are getting buffed.
I have a bias and really like Monty, I think he is the ideal shield and his playsty benefits the most from these changes. I do admit that blitz loses a lot because of his aggressive nature.
The blitz play style feels degenerate in the fact that blitz dies trying to close the distance or he gets close and blinds then kills the enemy. This is why I am okay with him losing out while the sit tight and give info style of Monty gets buffed. I believe it will benefit the game more.
Lion's Elites watch is also bugged like Cav's pistol elite.
I think that the suppression mechanic should make the shield ops slower since presumably they will be adding it to more ops or even creating new ones
I think that holding a gadget button (even if you dont have one) should allow you to hipfire lean. The ads one is still a step in the right direction though.
Shields nerfed, G36 nerfed, Fenrir, Solis and Tubarao unchanged but look guys you can finally change the colour of Cavs silencer.
I used to be really excited for test server and the changes that came with it but honestly I’m so disincentivised to play Rainbow Six these days. I really hope invite will bring some sort of spark back but I’m not holding my breath.
These recoil nerfs are just making it harder for controller players to compete against mnk and strike packs. Ubi is whack
Shields needed the "Nerf"
Overall shields have been heavy nerfed including Blitz worst of all.
Their offense is practically gone now as their hit is only a knockdown which means they can shoot back while you're still ADSing. Wish this game died already
Shields are not meant to get kills directly. They are a supporting role who gather information and force the enemy to fight at a disadvantage.
Hip fire gunfighting behind a shield was hoping for a lucky headshot, not good gameplay.
@drjamaymay405 Supports in siege have a form of reliable offense so your arguement is void. Shield ops were made with different tactics in mind. Monty is pure support and pressure with little offense which is fine. Blitz was made to be pure offense with a blind to encourage gunplay from blitz. Hes also effectively a roam clearer.
*No one thinks the hip fire was good except a knock down into a hip
@@Emilio-lz5ux I agree that blitz suffers the most. It's much better for Monty and I believe his play style is better for the game then blitz.
I never liked blitz, ying, or glaz when he had no movement penalty. They all promoted a degenerate play style of hyper aggressive rush.
I prefer the game slower and more focused on utility, and this change slows down the shields while giving them more utility for the team.
Blitz has his place as a pocket pick but he should never be great.
They haven’t fixed hibana’s pellets to turn white on the elite skin….its been years. 😩
There are multiple elite skins that refuse to show the swap, like Cav's luison suppressor always being the default one even if you swap to the elite one
The biggest and best change in this patch is the Cav elite fix.
Good change but I still need a FAVORITE system so I don’t have to go through 500+ charms and skins.
I want the ability to completely unbind melee.
Shields being able to charge through wooden barridaces is an indirect buff to most, if not all, trappers.
*Happy Kapkan main noises* :D
They should make it to where you can click or hold the sticks for different inputs so you can click them for leaning and hold for melee and sprint
As a Shield player this looks like overall a nerf. Gonna get worse down more without hip fire range. Now when you get close you don’t even down and get shot back knocking defenders. Nah. 😂
Shields can gather info better, their Melee doesn't expose their body as much, making it great to stun an opponent and give a teammate a pick.
They can't fight at range alone but with a teammate, they gain an advantage.
I believe the rework will promote a more engaging play style as and against shields.
What is the purpose of blitz then? Damn.
To flash. He isn't the only one who can run with a shield up, but he is still faster being a 2 speed.
@@drjamaymay405why not just run ying at that point? Or run operators with flash grenades? Really no point in picking blitz when monty is just a better version of him now that he can sprint like him
@@Sanelav Yng & Monty isn't a blitz replacement. Ying Monty double smoke is a plant based execute. Blitz is effective against isolated targets, better for a roam clear and remove flex players caught out. Ying and Monty taking 2 slots forces the play to be a site hit and blitz can be fused into many different attacks.
@@drjamaymay405 that is a verty smart expplanation
@@drjamaymay405 You cant roam clear as effectively with blitz now. The reason it was so good before was because you can do it quickly and surprise people. Now they can slow you down by shooting your shield and ask for help from their teammates or just simply run away. A large amount of my roam clear kills with blitz were finding people in random corners and just 1 tap melee them without even flashing sometimes. Instead of that i have to spend 3.5 seconds melee him 4 times or expose my body and ads him with the slowest ads speed in the game. Blitz is also supposed to be good at taking site which now is a lot harder now. You cant kill enemies nearly as quick as before. You have to spend so much time committing to one guy it leaves you exposed to other enemies. I only play blitz unless hes banned or picked already so trust me when i say its a massive nerf
I think shields should counter clash by pushing her down. It just feels right. Clash counters shields and shields counter Clash.
The missing blur VFX from taking damage was a bug as it turns out and they’re adding it back. That’s too bad actually
I am already so sick of getting headshot while looking directly at someone with a shield as blitz, so now that they are also going to be slowing me down when I try to chase someone for sure makes me not want to play shields anymore, this feels like a MEGA NERF for already bad shields.
I'd like them to copy Battlefields leaning, Hold A/X (whatever mantle/jump is) then use left joystick to lean either left or right
They've got controller remapping now so let's hope.
@@kirbyis4ever Something we might see as simple is complex to a Ubisoft Employee. Like reverting the "Quick Match" and "Standard" changes
@@cssib what are your complaints with the current matchmaking?
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I think that the should take damage if it remains underfired for a certain time (force shields to take cover) and I'm not saying that it should stay like that but if you have the whole team shooting at you you should take damage to every 5 or 6 bullets .
Ubisoft is just such an L right now. Siege is such a good game and literally the only one they make that people care about yet they barely work on it, instead making tons of other games that fail over and over.
I hope they're ready to change the suppression mechanic at the beginning of year 9, cuz it currently feels like it's gonna be fairly weak rn, but I haven't really played w it. It seems like the perfect nob to balance shields w tho.
I think a slight damage buff up to 45 and it’s perfect.
Don’t know how they could add lean without ads without removing a button, unless if it was another interaction, perhaps replace left and right on the d pad, and move drone and camera to aim+Left Click and aim+Right Click? It’s a bit unintuitive but I can’t think of any other way
agree 45 would be perfect 3 hits and you kill 3 speeds
@@jPlanerv2 I'm assuming you mean 3-armors because 35 damage will already 3-hit 3-speeds but 45 would be just enough to 3-hit 3-armor where it would require 4 with 35
I think shields doing any damage at all is more than fair given that they keep themselves far safer now (both during their melee animation and during sprint) and have airjab knockdowns. Shields should be enabling kills for their teammates, not doing the killing themselves. I'd argue that this version of shields shouldn't do any melee damage at all tbh. I love the rework outside of that aspect
Nope. Not a good take. Two shields hunting roamers can both charge them at once and it will only take 3 hits between both to down that's not going to be balanced at all for defending roamers let alone 3 shields sprinting and hunting roamers
@@Sean_Connery yeah, 2 shield ops should be able to take down 1 guy, and 3 hits means the one can still fight back, but it will prove challenging if you don't play it well, as should be the case. I mean, in the live build Blitz can do exactly what you are saying by himself and it is an insta-down so I genuinely don't get what your point is.
Yea that shield change can’t be staying
Twitch, gridlock, lion, zofia, sledge, thermite, should get shields. They don't need shields, but I think it would be fun on them specifically.
I hope there's operation health 2
I hope they add back thunt and get an anticheat
That rework of shield is so shit like its bad nobody was using shield and after this nobody will play shield at all they might as well get em out of the game. The rework feels like u have a bullet prof carboard in front of u. the melee is dumb af. in my opinion the shields shouldn't be touched just like drones and other stuff that is core of the game. And they keep adding shit to the game which nobody asked and keep nerfing the stuff than nobody asked to be nerfed. And instead of all the bullshit they are doing now they can fix the servers and the broken maps people ban as well as a whole bunch of unbalanced operators which deserve a buff or a rework like Clash where she is of the chart from how bad she is - > AND THEY ARE NERFING HER!!!! like why . and Blackbeard...
Instead of ubi bullshit we should get a health operation to fix the broken shit and rework to shit which needs fixing.
You are hallucinating, clash is a good operator when you 5 stack and coordinate, and this rework with shields is great, makes a lot of operators playable in different ways to be creative, from going to a support role, to an entry role with the barricade interaction
Tf is blud waffling about 😂
People do use shields, it's just the average player hates shields.
The shield player can't shoot a gun, which is the main reason one plays an fps, to shoot bullets at people. And when you face a shield you can't kill them, which sucks because you play an fps to kill other people with bullets.
These changes are great, the hip fire and current melee insta-down are unfun 50/50 mechanics. It feels like every fight against a shield is a die roll and I could stagger them and kill them, or they Melee first and I go down.
Shields are meant to be supporting ops and these changes push them into that play style more.
Stop complaining about other issues when 1 change is being tested. Just because shields are getting touched up doesn't mean they are ignoring other issues. Game balance and server outages are handled by two different teams, working on one is not pulling resources from the other.
yup shields were weak before now completely useless
@@drjamaymay405 ap doasnt hate shields its the pro league who complains about the fun of the game and they wana take it away rainbow was never meant to be like cs or val its always been on the fun side and by them making these bullshit changes like the frags who tf asked for that or nokk nerf... what am getting at they wana 5op meta and to change it once a year. That is gona kill this game
If its op as people say. Make Aruni a direct counter(if shes not already) to shields. Like ONE Melee from Her to shields should push them down like shield melee knockback but not full shiled Monty
Her surya gates are a direct counter.
Oryx is what you are looking for, he can knock down a shield with his rhema dash.
Why's everyone saying the new shields are trash they are so much better than before.
Old shield problems:
- can shoot legs and shoulders
- slow
- vulnerable reload
- vulnerable ads
- easy to walk up to and melee
- easy to c4 because slow
- cant deploy grenades without revealing themselves
New shield problems:
- easy to shoot legs and shoulders
- can't hipfire
- can be slowed by constant gunfire
- melee doesnt down people instantly
Thats it. If the new shield melee sucks, then so does oryx and nomads abilities. Hipfire was a blight on shield gameplay as it was not fun for anybody. Sure they can be slowed by gunfire, at which point your opponent reloads and you shoot them in the face. People complain that they're just as easy to kill as before with teamwork, but then take teamwork out of the equation for the shield operator. Shield operators were never meant to be solo operators.
TESTING LEANN 💜💜💜😈😈👾💟✝️☔️☔️🟣🪻🪻
I like the new rework because it encourages team play when using a shield instead of being a killing machine
That’s a major blitz nerf
Actually it is, but I think it's good, since blitz doesn't has a lot of room to punish, just if the blitz is braindead, but yeah, is kinda nice to see the new shields
Just blind and shoot, silly
@@Lorentz_Drivergoodluck doing that in a 1v2
@@drazven2785 I like that your hand is protected now but that’s about it
@@Lorentz_Driver that's kinda easier, you just blind the first one and then focus the one that didn't get flashed
I dont think the surpression mechanic should work on blitz imo but all other shield ops cause i feel like that negates tho whole rush aspect of blitz
I would love hip lean on console but with Xim still being a thing it’s gonna be even worse cause Hip lean on MnK is so much better. I feel like they should wait with this one until they fixed Mousetrap or not implement it at all
Man the new leaning without adsing isnt bad at all. I think Y9 will see a part 2 of this but yeah. 7/10 update for me 👍
I would like if you would Click L3 or R3 it would lean. And just set your knife to a seperate button.
Glad to see that they haven’t gotten any more creative with gun nerfs. Gun gets too many kills? Just nerf the recoil to shit
having to ads to hip lean is just as bad as only leaning while ads. the whole point of un-ads leaning is to have full movement speed while quick peeking and face checking. it’s gonna be *better* swinging around corners pre leaned so you can have better vision before aiming but still it seems useless 90% of the time but i could be wrong.
The shield bash is hilarious and scary at the same time
Why should I have to waste my time filling out a feedback survey for someone who will not even consider my individual opinion anyway? It’s a chore. I’ll finally admit it, Ubisoft is actually running the game into the ground now….
It's getting to the point of me quitting siege. after this many years idk anymore. Already lowkey quit bc of this cheater issue
So shields doesnt kill insta knife anymore?
shields lost their insta kill on melee a long time ago, for quite some time now the melee just downs you, now if the changes go into effect it will slightly tickle you and give you a nice angle at their legs
I think they're really low count on development team, they're not spending any additional money to the development.. - these changes are very vague and it will be re-discussed once this patch is online..
CAV Buff.. and Controller Hip Lean… AMAZING
a 5 stack of shields wont be a problem at all cause they basically need someone supporting them now. maybe you could get away with 4 shields and 1 gun but even that's a stretch
Almost a decade, ubisoft decided to add this leaning feature!!! 10 years after LMAOAOAOA!!
The whole lean thing on console is what's gonna bother me, now we'll have m&k players that will be able to hide it even more with that change coming, ubisoft clearly don't give a damn about console
The console community wants hip lean. Unless this is a situation of a vocal minority, they have been very supportive of adding hip lean for years. Ubisoft adding hip leaning would suggest that they do care.
I am not aware of how mouse trap catches cheaters, but i dont think that adding hip lean would make it harder to detect. I believe that adding a new mechanic would give mouse trap one more metric to track. This would allow a cheater and regular player to differ even more,albeit very minorly, and increase the efficacy of mouse trap.
Is it me or the shields are smaller?
They are the same size, the first person model just has them seen from a different perspective (further from the camera) which would make the shield appear to be smaller from your end
i was pretty worried about the shield thing but ig it makes sense with the suppression thing
7:12 I perfer the ads reloading to be old one than new one
I'm glad they reworked shields so that they're just as trash, but differently.
No but seriously, wtf...
1. Gun down the shield while he walks or runs toward you, knock his shield away, shoot & kill.
2. If he melees first, just melee back once you're up (since he can't get you back down right away) and shoot to kill.
3. While running, you can slow him down while an ally shoots his legs.
4. You can just stand in his line of sight and not be afraid of randomly getting shot by him, so just aim at their head and wait, or push and melee since there's really nothing he can do because if he melees first, just do step 2.
This encourages teamplay, as they're not any good in 1v1 situations. Thing is, they already played almost the exact same way if they two or three stack push using one shield.
So basically all this does is make your day a living nightmare if you're the last one standing and have a basic shield.
Downing in one melee & being able to randomly shoot, to me, made it a lot more hazardous for enemies. Now if you're alone, they can push you with no fear.
the interaction with clash is not a nerf lol, if a shield player could get into that situation before, clash would just die instantly instead of being tossed around
aaaaaaand i paused to type my comment the literal exact moment before he mentions it. ah wel
I wish they just made low-mid recoil for every gun. That shit affects the op more than their gadget does and inturn can ruin an operator like ela or zofia because they become unreliable in gunfights
Perhaps they should make recoil worse for everyone else. Gunfighting has become trivial with weapons like the mpx and g36c.
@@drjamaymay405 imagine 😭💀
@@drjamaymay405 only problem that brings is it being too hard for casual/ less skillful players. Plat and under
Thanks rb6, its like if you added jumping to cod 10 years after it came out
yep. thats why ppl who like milsim and semi realism left this game long time ago. they prefer adding lgbtq operators
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it look a fat white right wing
Yea, because lgbtq operators are real????? The realism arguement is stupid af because the game was never realistic.
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2itstay mad
The suppression should NOT affect blitz huge nerf what’s the point of using blitz now?
Are they gonna fix certain operators doing osa’s pose when you view them from main menu?
OMG THAT HAPPENS SOOOO MUCH ITS KINDA STRANGE THAT MALE OPERATORS DO OSAS ZESTY TRANS AHHH POSE
@@kakapip1366 ikr like lion does it for example, n it looks so odd, i think the only one it works on is solis because its like she is mimicking her visor turning on
and the Tubarao unlocking animation that comes out every time you launch the game 💀
@@D.Wapheryeah ikr that too! Tf is going on mannn, they were down at the start of the year too which wasn’t great
Ngl the gun behind the shield... I don't think that'll have a big impact.
Whenever I play shield people easily kill me by shooting my legs, or when I'm crouched walking either my feet or my head.
This might be different on console but on PC it's just too easy to snipe the few parts of you that aren't covered by the shield, and since you are so incredibly slow they have all the time in the world to just tick you down while you waddle on with no way to defend yourself
You'd have to get rid of 2 functions if you want lean without ads. And i dont know which 2 functions im willing to get rid of.
They said they would give full controller binding since Y4. We're in the 9th year if siege officially. I have no hope for the company
it took them this long to add quick leaning and all they had to do was do an aim-lean-unaim toggle 💀
To be fair, coreross makes it look very fluid
My poor poor blitz.. r.i.p.
Thing is tho there is literally no 2 buttons you could swap for hip leaning
I mean, they could add auto sprint on console, use the melee like the destiny and halo one, and pull your gadget and grenade on the empty dpad slot, that could fix a lot
Left and right on dpad
@@irishgaming1651 change fire mode on launch type ammo, and entering drones
@irishgaming1651 Right on dpad is to throw or use drone so that wouldn’t work and left on dpad is to switch ability modes and drop defuser. Like i said you can’t swap anything out, every button slot is taken up already with essential things
@@drazven2785yes an auto sprint would be good but then comes the problem on how far do i push the stick to slow walk, normal walk, then run. Also does auto sprint take you out of crouch or prone when analog is pushed fully forward… this whole leaning thing will just a new mechanic to learn n im ok with that
You don't have to give any buttons for the leaning behaviour, if you have an elite series 2
i was going to reinstall on Xbox but these 2 changes aren't live yet sadly.
sadly shields seem completely useless now. Unlimited counters very little pros
Watch everyone start complaining about the shield rework then Ubisoft will nerf mark my words
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Shield
Escorting the hostage with ur sheild out is gonna be a thing now..interesting
@@user-oo8zz1dq8l some ppl do..just not most
i hope this limits the shield meta in standard or casual, idm shields in ranked our 5 stack can handle it but casual its bit tougher
ace being nerfed again is criminal
i’ve already lowered the amount that i play hardbreach and this takes it even further
Omg I’m so excited for this broo also love ur content Ross
I wonder if the game will let me assign the leaning without aiming option on its own button in the dualsense pro controller.
Nerfing g36 is just braindead the weapon it self is far from op the dmg is under average and fire rate is average. The reason everyone is playing the G36 is because ash can’t equipe 1.5 on rc and ianna second weapon has legit better stats but has 10 bullets Les Ubisoft is so braindead
Im not surprised they copied the Hell let loose leaning mechanic. It is the better solution rather than changing inputs
About time shields needed a major rework.
Testing lean, as in the game mechanic, or a shot sample?
Call me crazy but i cant wait to play Shield Fuze now^^
You have always been able to lean with primary (if applicable) and secondary gadgets (Nitro cell, impact, barbed wire etc)
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@@redmist6630 think he means if you have a gu mine or a valid cam in hand you could lean etc.
hip leaning as a shield on controller is going to be hell
It's the same lean style as hell let loose
No melee downs and no hipfire....tragic
This is a massive nerf for shields anywhere below emerald/diamond. I'm really glad I'm stopping playing this game
Weren’t these features supposed to come out Q4 last year?
I thought I was supposed to quit Siege?
I thought console already had the lean, isnt it rb and lb?
HUGE