7 HOURS to find a 5-AMP Draw?! (Lincoln MKC - Part 2)
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Get out your wiring diagrams, scope, and notebook...we're in for the long haul!
Josiah of Blue Skies Mobile Auto Repair and I continue the epic parasitic draw marathon.
How do we determine which of the 30 modules on this Lincoln is keeping the others awake??
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Parasitic draws caused by network faults are the most challeging and time consuming faults to find. But you nailed it like a boss! 👏
Dan that really means a lot coming from a professional like yourself! At least it wasn't a BMW! 😅
Getting a comment from DD is wowser for sure.
Excellent video as always Ivan! There is always something to learn from your content. Oh, and nobody can deny... You da man Dan!!
Hi Dan! Happy New Year!
My favourite technicians, Dan and Ivan!!
The really interesting twist here is that the parasitic draw was cased by a component that uses hardly any energy itself - the draw was from keeping all the other things awake. Fascinating.
Exactly 👌
Not really, looking for fob commands from the owner.
It’s not too fascinating, I bet its as simple as not using a resistance spark plug.
My pappy said, "Son, you're gonna' drive me to drinkin'
If you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln"
- Commander Cody
Wow - that was an epic diagnosis! It would be nice if brands implemented a 'force sleep' mode as a two way test so you don't have to wait 20 minutes to continue diagnosis. Thanks, Ivan.
Excellent point. Maybe if the scan tool had that in the software...you as the tech could invoke the command with the scan tool and execute the command to GO TO SLEEP.
They could ask Locutus. He's done it on a complex network.
Call it Ambien mode
Awesome job!
"Force sleep mode"....disconnect battery.
Navy aircraft design..specifically the P3A orion. Systems were designed to make sure FLIGHT ESSENTIAL ELECTRONICS were able to survive in case of damage or fire. Crew members had to memorize all the circuit breakers inside the " tube" or interior fuselage. We had to know how to disable systems that were shorting the main bus bars or in case any electronic equipment was smoking or on fire. Very complicated indeed..but the engineers made sure we could keep the engines turning and get the landing gear down with catastrophic electronic failures. I wish car engineers would think like that.
The rtm seems like an essential control, it should not have been buried like it was, and its loss should not disable the car. All that money spent on 30 modules, and they couldn't build in one more redundant back up to ensure the car could limp somewhere
As far as starting it, there is a backup fob slot. To start car when battery in fob is dead. The FOB still incorporates an RFID circuit. When placed in the backup slot, it energizes the fob rfid cicuit and you "SHOULD" be able to start the vehicle.
Still, way too much electronics for my liking.
@@Joetechlincolns I saw that slot when Watch Wes Work programmed an extra key to a Ford. It's in the center console.
@@erik_dk842 not always, but sometimes yeah. In most nissans it's to the left of the steering wheel on the dash. it differs by manufacturer
@T.J. Kong but they can unlock the doors from space.. go figure.
It's getting to the point where I'm starting to believe that manufacturers want people helpless and stranded, so they'll rush right back to the dealership for another one. The other half of it is all the low-bidder absolute junk components sourced to build these vehicles, and the way they're carelessly thrown together in the name of speed. The source is greed either way. Imagine paying $70k for a vehicle and having this happen! That's what I owe on my friggin mortgage right now! Downright criminal ...
You are so patient and thorough in your diagnosis. I'm 63 and have learned so much from your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I have been in the business for many years (retired now) and after watching the whole video parts 1 and 2 I am glad I am retired. You are amazing , more important is your flawless diagnostic process. Impressed to say the least. My last Parasitic draw was on a BMW 530d and after that I retired, yes I found it .Boy do I wish I had a scope in my day , thank you sir
This diag made me appreciate my own older cars with ONE computer and no networks haha 😅
Ditto, got out of automotive repair 30 yrs ago. Even back then it was a rat race with book values for jobs. Cars are very complex today, my hats off to the mechanics of today and would say still underpaid as we were 30 yrs ago. Ivan can I borrow your scope ?
I have a blown fuse somewhere on my 74 MGB 😊
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I love my 92 accord it's so simple.
it was like a 15 round boxing match against that car , a real technical knock out you had to do to win , great job Ivan !
That was a complicated parasitic draw diagnosis Ivan! It's crazy how these newer vehicles are too dependent on modules that you literally wont be able to start it if one of the modules were bypassed. Looking forward to the last video for this vehicle.. thanks for again taking us along the process. Cheers!
if you look at the big picture the parasitic draw was the symptom, the CAN network fault was the real problem. thats what I would record on records as the diagnosis. it will help customers understand that it was just not something staying on. they must understand that the highly complicated on board computer system had a MAJOR malfunction that rendered it inoperative. then maybe next time they buy a vehicle they will think twice abt getting all of the tech bling.
a car is supposed to be for transportation, not a mobile entertainment center.
Unbelievable diagnosis. The thing about diagnosing vehicles is you have to have persistence. Many just don't have the will power to keep thinking and moving forward so they give up and usually fire the parts cannon. There are pressures on technicians to make hours and they can't win on a scenario like this so they give up and move on or order parts to move the vehicle out of the shop. But each time you find and fix one of these, it adds to your knowledge bank and helps you on the next one. Even Josiah learned a ton during this one and he will be better the next time he has a similar situation.
yep its called getting tempered in the fire . it takes courage, patience, determination. everybody is watching the clock, and the bill is adding up by the minute. you start wondering if they are wondering if you know what the heck you are doing.. they start asking hows it coming, making any progress? or say I think I might trade it in.., lol
Huge learning experience. We'll recap in Part 3 👍
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics Ivan maybe start doing an after action review as bonus footage discussing in hindsight what possible other paths could have been taken to help in the diagnosis. looking back, we see that the entertainment center was staying on when it should be off. could possibly starting there, then work BACKWARDS to the modules have been a less arduous path to the diagnosis.
also the manufacturers should be pressed to provide a detailed description of the order of operation that takes place on the CAN bus systems. an electrical schematic does not suffice, because you do not know what the order of processor commands are. all of this really comes down to high tech computer repair and unless the manufacturer provides the specifics of what the processor does, and when it does it, also with basically no onboard troubleshooting in the CAN bus system, OF the can Bus system these cars will be a nightmare for a long time to come. A law passed several years ago that mandates manufacturers shall provide any and all information needed to repair a vehicle yourself but the manufacturers arent complying. they are hiding behind that processor.
But wouldn't just pulling the fuses have found this faster? It's crazy, fuse 32 had no voltage drop but that was the issue?
@@Walczyk you have to modify your electrical troubleshooting train of thought now.. its no longer fuse , circuit , component. its FUSES, PROCESSOR OR PROCESSORS, MODULES, CIRCUITS, COMPONENTS. some modules indirectly control other modules . The engineers that built the network designed it for things that they believe were important in order of function. being it seems that the alarm system is on the medium speed network , that is likely activated partially all the time. also the key proximity monitoring is there. part of the job of the same module may be to signal other modules to turn on and activate other modules or send commands thru the can bus network once certain criteria are met. but if it malfunctions, or gets corrupted, it can send errant signals to other modules, that activate other circuits at the wrong time.
I imagine in the very near future, if its not happening already, manufacturers will be sending wireless updates and software changes to the onboard computers. it will be like Windows,, plz do not turn off your vehicles, we are installing updates.. the manufacturers will try to make you addicted to a vehicles, just like a phone.
I have to say. I feel that electrical diagnostics ending up with a problematic, yet still functioning control module, can be some of the toughest electrical problems to find. This case study was a perfect example of that. The module in question here, for the most part, is still functioning. Just not exactly as intended. The shop I work for, everything is fast paced. So, it's pretty rare that I get the time to really dig deep into jobs like this. Plus, I usually don't have access to some of the tech I would need. So, it's a real pleasure for me to watch people like Ivan, roll up his steeves and get busy. Amazing detective work there Ivan! I can't wait to see the conclusion.
Wow. What a saga. Insane that a corrupted module keeps a series of modules awake and drawing some amperage. This is why you’re the master Ivan. You’re a blessing to so many diagnosticians my man. Sharing your wisdom an experience has exponential impact.
Thanks TJ, this was a massive learning experience for all :)
I like my (reliable) 20 year old Toyota more every day. Thanks for the reminder as to why.
Glad i am retired from working on cars for a living, they are getting more & more complicated with the amount of electrical crap they fit on them, but total respect to you for your patience & determination to not be defeated by it.
Be careful when reprogramming the new module, as a tech at Mercedes i've seen a few times where the scanner wants the old module installed first and it copies the bad programming which winds up causing the same issue on the new module. sometimes we are able to get away with performing an Initial Startup of the faulty module and it fixes the problem without having to be replaced. Great Diag!
There is no better channel IMHO on automotive diagnostics then pine hollow. Thank you for these well informed documentative videos Ivan.
At 16:03 mark you said " too many modules, is your head spinning?" YES..IT WAS ALREADY SPINNING IN PART ONE.
this is job is for advanced electrical troubleshooters only.
Mine too.
Yes, advanced electrical troublemakers need advanced electrical troubleshooters to figure them out!
Your supreme confidence in your method and determination to see the job through served you well yet again in this brutal case study.
whats right is whats left when everything else you do is wrong, great notes you never got lost or going in circles, a problem solving template for all
Incredible work Ivan , well done
Wow!, well diagnosed and traced down to the faulty component. Top work Ivan!.
Great diagnosis very thorough! These videos have taught me a lot about looking into electrical issues and i just found your channel a month ago.
Definitely a tough nut Ivan, great work 👌.
Excellent diagnosis and prognosis, thanks for sharing.
Have to say.. great job Ivan! So interesting watching your diagnosis path.. and finally nail it. Nice job!
Determination and methodical procedures writing things down to keep your mind focussed all comes to fruition in the end . Another awesome case study looking forward to part 3.
Ivan, your patience is astounding! Not my brand of choice...
glad you confirmed it. Happy New Year!
Really amazing diagnostics Ivan, I applaud your persistence! :-)
Yes! Part 2,,, Thanks!!! Your are one of the Best at auto diagnostics!!! Love your content & skill!!!
I need a nap after watching that marathon
🤣🤣🤣 great video 👍👍
Bernie would be proud of you two! Fascinating case study. Thanks guys!
The hardest parasidic draw you've ever done and the best one we've seen, diagnosis was great to watch!
Awesome Ivan you definitely earned
your diagnostic time on that one and
you collected tons of notes so if you
ever come across anything remotely
close to this problem on another Ford you will be ahead of the game!!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome diag, you're setting the standard for these types of diag/repairs. I can only imagine what the dealership would have done. Thanks for the video.
What a diagnosis. Hats off Ivan
Ditto to many of these comments. Great video. Your content never ceases to deliver.I pretty much drop everything every time a new one drops. This one was fantastic!
I know from my time at bmw when individual modules all connected by can networks peaked at 68 (a lot of current every time you wake the car up), it was a fun time chasing current draws. Fibre optic, can high, can low, byte flight, i-can, lin bus, k-can, MOST etc etc lol.
We found that in most cases for bmw. It was a control unit waking up and trying to communicate, causing a draw. Even better than this, everything would work faultlessly. Then they would often do it in the middle of the night. So we would have to set up long term oscilloscope track over night to catch it.
I know your method is usually the most effective. We found that with absolutely everything interconnected and monitoring. Our trusted way was to trace the communication as you did but then (with the luxury of the cars full spec and factory wiring diagrams at our disposal) disconnect directly at the module one at a time methodically. If you pulled power (cutting it off at the head) as you did. Often the tail would wag and cause other parts of the car to react. Where as if you isolate the module, it would log a code but just be lost to the network. Not affecting anything else.
Except the MOST obviously because it is a fiber optic loop in series. We would have to install a fiber optic loop out of the chosen module before putting the car to sleep.
The real kicker is when you move into the module that you found at fault. You would actually find no physical fault. But with the advent of key-less ignition and entry, meant owners in the habit of leaving their car secure in their garage/house but unlocked. So because of software. The car would take 45min to and hour to go to sleep but then realise hours later, "hey, I'm still unlocked. Maybe I should stay ready". Wake up to look for the key. Or worse, the customer would leave their keys near the door or in their pocket and walk past the garage. Then because of proximity, constantly pinging each other. "Wake up, they're back!". Haha
So then we had to re-educate our customers to yet another function, that they must lock their car always, even in their own garage.
I will also say. As soon as this era haled in. We recommended that owners buy a quality smart charger accross the board due to the power demand and most people only driving small trips.
As always, love the content Ivan!
Wow sounds like a BIG NIGHTMARE haha
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics this was at the peak of ridiculous mind you. E65 V12 fully spec'd down to night vision cameras to alert you of wildlife etc.
Just before I left, they went to the new F-series of cars which was SO much easier. With essentially everything being condensed into a front module and a rear module. That's it.
Very cool!
Fantastic how you bite in these kind of problems🤙🏼
Fantastic to see
Regards from Holland Europe😎
This is crazy. The future of electrical diagnosis looks like it'll be an expensive endeavour for the customer. I can see now why it's taking such a long time to diagnose. Great vid Ivan. You did have my head spinning a couple of times with all the module interactions. Lots of folks entertaining the purchase of new cars might want to watch this and they'll have a better sence of what a technician goes through and why it's so expensive.
What an over complicated monster. Do vehicles really need to be that elaborate? That was a mind bender Ivan, you are the man! Great Job!😊
Had the same type of issue recently on a 2012 Dodge Journey SXT. Draw from the BCM, Took me forever to figure out! It ended up being the intelligent battery sensor(which in my case was a LIN style sensor) it was somehow waking up the BCM and subsequently several other modules in the car. Great Video!
Awesome!!...as usual...you're diagnostics are cool!!👍😎
WOW!! This just solidifies my line of thinking that I will never buy another vehicle built after 2006 (preferably none after '72, lol) for as long as I live! If this were mine I probably would've lost it and tossed a map torch inside with the flame locked on! MAN, what a nightmare! They've got modules for modules, lol! Ridiculous engineering here. They go through all this complexity, and STILL use low-bidder garbage components. Just mind-blowing!!
Impressive willpower, Ivan. I don't think I could've succeeded on this one without quitting in utter frustration! Nice work!
It was good to see you struggle a little for once. And thanks to you we all learned something here. Cheerz
Your the man!! Great job! Love your dedication to finding the root cause. Learning so much from you.
Great video Ivan ! A current draw caused by active modules makes diagnosis much deeper and more time consuming when the initial approach is to look for a static current draw from component failure or shorted wiring. Enjoyed that. Thanks for sharing. 😄
well done, the pair of you looked shell-shocked😆.. Excellent work Ivan, i hope he fead you well..👍🏻
Fantastic process and very inspiring to hold on. Think clear and work it step by step.
This was totally awesome! I think it would be accurate to say few would have hung in there long enough to get to the answer! Way to be tenacious and follow through!
That list of modules in your notebook was jaw dropping-makes me glad I drive a 92 Ford OBS with a mechanical diesel!
Nice to see you and Josiah working together again and I am very much looking forward to part 3!
Awesome job and video as always!
Yet again - excellent troubleshooting methodology example.. Many thanks & great work
You da man Ivan !! I bet it was awesome feeling to go through that and finally find it !!
Nice work. Even if the programming procedure worked on the old module I would have replaced it. Working with micro controllers I have found that corruption is a sign of decay and future failure is most likely. I enjoyed parts one and two and look forward to three. Also I appreciate you explaining how you bill for your work in the past. It appears that cars and trucks are continuing to subdivide into specialties like the people movers I work on which require five highly skilled crafts on site to keep them running with an additional group off site for support. Even in my craft we have specialists for subsystems. One thing is given, it is never boring. Frustrating at times but never boring. Cheers.
Wow great diagnosis bro, I see that many of us technicians and mechanics are still learning from you. And this is the first time I see a parasitic draw from a bus module like you diagnose.thanks a lot Ivan.
My pleasure! This one was a big learning experience for me as well! 👍
Ivan. We, your followers, are tired of giving you these accolade's - BUT! You've earned ALL of them and many more. Thanks for the ride - I don't know how you push on like you do. My hat is off once again, to you. Thanks
Honestly Ivan. I really enjoy watching you work. Your methodical, logical, knowledgeable aptitude is superb. Folks are very fortunate to have your services available in your trade area. I`m not a tech, but I have learned a lot from watching you. Thank you.
thank you for improving our diagnoses great job
Wow, this’s really cool diagnostic 👍🏼
Absolutely brilliant diagnosis!!
That fault does have a name, I work for a controls company and play with CAN type busses. Its called a babbling node, it grabs the wire and wont let go increasing network traffic and causing lots of headaches. It does usually mean a bad part. The fact it wont allow a firmware flash again usually means the part is bad. Nice job on the troubleshooting, you hung in there on that one. Network issues are always a pain! :)
"Babbling node"...I'll add that to my diagnostic vocabulary haha
Good solid daigs.
Nice to see positive tenacity at work :)
I haven't seen you get stumped yet.. it is fascinating to watch you work..
I can say I've learned a few things from you.. thanks
Insane! Great diagnosis Ivan.
This is just amazing...! Ivan, absolute insanity...
I am recalling a good friend of mine whom was a factory trained GM technician..., telling me (1980-90’s time frame) that most of the vehicle(s) that came in for a problem was an electrical related issue...
He referred to them as a “F.R.E.D.,” (f’ing ridiculous electrical device) problem...
He also made not that GM had, at one point (to cut down on weight=fuel economy & overhead=the almighty dollar), gone to aluminum wiring in their autos..., for a couple of years, but then went back to copper..., as they were having some many problems related to using the aluminum wiring...
Great video series,
Thank you sir.
It's very amazing the idiotic cycles companies go through with newer generations of employees who simply do not learn the history of aluminum wiring. Residential home builders tried all of that in the 1970's through early 80's and found out that power cycles would expand and contract aluminum to the point that it would destroy itself and work just about every termination loose. They stopped and went back to copper right about the same time "drywall" got invented.
How and why these engineers fail to recall the past and then try again forcing the public into overly expensive design and material flaws should be unlawful.
@@Garth2011
they don't care about the past....they live in today...problem with lots today....is the lack of interest in anything beyond a few years....and being educated isn't the same as Intelligent.....it is why the best inventors weren't programmed to not think...they had free minds and interest in what they do.... younger generations think nothing happened before today...but they are living in past technology....it was invented way before they were born....
@@garymallard4699
Wheeeew...!
Nicely “put”..., spot on my friend..., spot on...
GM at one point bought Hughes Aircraft, and put a version of their heads-up display in their cars. They went to electronics and robotic assembly lines early, then backed out for awhile.
Very good diagnosis. Gotta love a scope.
Holy mackerel, 37 fuses linked to the BCM?, nuts I tell 'ya!, no way the dealership would have anyone on staff able to do this type of diagnosis!.
The 37 fuses will be on the outputs of the BCM, for each circuit that it controls. This isn't unusual on modern cars, the BCM eliminates high current switches and wiring on the dashboard and stalk controls.
@@ferrumignis Give me switches, any day.
Impressive determination, both showing patience and courage! Professional diagnostics. Lucky it wasn't a intermittent fault in the module.
Fantastic job there Ivan!
Very nice, Ivan. Very nice. Perseverance, determination, and careful documentation pay off! Another well done, series. I wonder how long it would have taken the dealership to solve--sorry, I meant how many modules would the dealership swap out before finally getting lucky.
I was thinking the same...the bill/cost would have been nuts potentially.
John, I agree with almost all you have said. But....it is not fixed untill part 3...lol. Go Ivan Go!
Very interesting diagnosis. Something you may want to add to your diagnostic kit for these new cars with key fobs that do presence detection is a faraday bag or box so you can quickly switch the fob from nearby (out of the bag/box) to far away (inside the closed bag/box). A simple metal box (such as a toolbox) would work, or a repurposed ESD-safe bag (like toll transponders or some PC parts come in). And of course you can buy something online specifically for key fobs
Awesome job, great video production as well as diagnosing :)
Amazing work glad you got to the bottom of it a total master class in diagnostic and the obd scanner in this case was a minor help
Ivan, that was really interesting diagnosis!! It sure did hurt my brain lol. Car goes cray cray when you pull 1 fuse lol. Too many damn modules!! I'm so glad I'm staying with what I have!! Lol. RTM bad? I was for sure thought the rear liftgate module. But you got there in the end!!! Let's see what part 3 brings! Awesome video! 👌
Wow! That was incredible!
Loved this diag. Thanks for sharing!
My taking here with this many module. First look at the networks if still activity after good 30 min. Attack that problem. If module wont go sleep final result is current draw. Good approach. Newer cars getting more complicated to fix specially this one.
Great end result keep the amazing content coming 👏 👍 👌
Hope you were not too stressed out with this job. Crazy problem! Looking forward to part 3.
That is impressive Ivan, very impressive!
Once again proves the need of a good scope to diagnose today's cars thoroughly.
So happy to see that now you zero the amp clamp using the recommended procedure.
I have experimented with clamp orientation and drift ;)
Wow. Very impressive diagnosis.
once again your the man to get er done. thank you.
I'm so happy I just got my new to me 1988 GMC pickup on the road. It had a parasitic draw that was found with a pair of pliers pulling fuses, very low tech.
There’s a hidden place in the glove box, center console or under the cup holder rubber that you can put the fob and the car will start. It’s incase the battery is dead in the fob :)
I'll keep that in mind lol
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics it looks like a little tray or it’s indented like a key fob
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics WatchWesWork programming a Ford key, placing it in that slot ua-cam.com/video/hSjYu6DrTFs/v-deo.html
Awesome job Ivan!
Awesome!! Pretty cool they way you methodically got to the problem. The dealership I work for (not Ford) our cars are much easier to get to modules so I can have them all unplugged one at a time in under an hour so kudos to you for being persistent on this turd.
Well done Ivan, That was like hunting a wide animal in the woods.
Absolute epic diagnosis! Very interesting that the surrounding lights of the FCIM would flash when the bus flattened. Maybe internally the proximity sensor in the RTM kept waking up because of the internal short, or for whatever reason commanded on? I’m not sure on that year make and model but usually every car with a “push to start” should have a location that you can place the transponder “key” that will override the RTM in an event that the battery in the fob goes dead, every year make and model has a different location to place it, but usually there is always a place to place it. But this is an absolutely epic diagnosis and I’m glad the machine didn’t defeat you!! lol
That is why this channel is a must have. U will never get this kind of guidance anywhere else. The hot shot Ford techs will know how to fix this car, maybe. But they will know because the dealer hotline told them we have a high failure rate on these modules, not because they got their scopes out and did the proper analysis. And that will only b at dealers that have the really good techs. Not many have them. I wonder if Brian at Ford tech makeuloco has seen this. Thank u Ivan for making this content possible!!!
Not all dealer techs are dumb. There's smart guys still there. It's just easier to see the bad as no one praises the dealer when they get it right.
@@Joetechlincolns I whole heartedly agree. Had this happen at the dealer, I bet the customer would be online the next day complaining about how long it took, now much it cost him and how incompetent the tech was 🙄
@@Joetechlincolns I am sorry. I didn’t mean to say or imply anything negative about dealer techs. I should have said that maybe they aren’t all up to the latest in the module dominated world. Once again, sorry!!!!
You may have just edged out Eric O as the master troubleshooter. Impressive!
Man that's a crazy case study these car manufacturers doing everything they can to make a more complicated there's something else good job
only Ivan.. thx for depinning instead of cutting. More importantly, thanks for all the teaching, never give up!
I used to wonder why you took copious notes on each case study, now I know why😣 Excellent diagnosis
They train you at BMW STEP for those type of draws. Apparently the doors keyless entry would keep the vehicles awake since they know which door you are approching and the touch sensitive handles would mess up. These complicated security systems are why carjacking is way up, because thieves can't steal them when your away. There's a great investigative report from Michael K Williams on vice that you can watch on UA-cam. He also reports on illegal guns and similar street crimes by talking to the criminals.
So. Many. Modules. Unreal. I am convinced to keep my 2004 Highlander forever, I don't want anything more complex, ever.
Some of these draws in these new cars can get crazy. A couple of years ago I had a Chrysler van that had a small pinch in the rear sliding door harness that went pretty much just like this diagnosis. You’d think their programming would have some kind of pattern recognition to ignore something keeping everything awake after a certain point.
At least your not a quitter, I wonder how many shops that would of went to before someone figured it out great job ivan
That electrical system is way too complex! I mean seriously, if it takes that long to diagnose the issue, the car isn't worth it! Whatever happened to putting the key in the ignition and turning it to start the vehicle? It's all about adding enough crap and tying it together to make repair (after the warranty has expired) unrealistic! If you ask me, it's a nice looking piece of garbage! And I know the FORD isn't the only manufacturer that ties multiple modules together! Amazing diagnosis, Ivan! 👍
Welcome to modern cars. It will only get worse.
Are you kidding me? This is what makes it fun to be a diagnostician.
I'm not Worthy!!, I'm not Worthy!!.Your Awesome!! I enjoy very much your videos. Keep it up. ✌👍!!
Ivan your determination and focus to find this little monster paid off. I would of put that car a sleep with my 45 magnum. Have a great on Ivan.
Not exactly related but Ford for years had parasitic draws from amps and phone transeivers when they were first installed from the factory (not aftermarket insall). very little info available at the time. Great job Ivan.