Land Rover Discovery 3 - How to diagnose the low pressure fuel pump - Diesel filter change
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Did you ever get a very high estimate from your service shop? Do you think you can trust them?
Replacing the high pressure fuel pump on this LR3 was estimated to be a 4000€ repair with body off.
We show you how we got it fixed for 40€ and some good luck.
Enjoy the video.
Vera & Christian
Robbie's Guide To The Low Pressure Fuel System of the Discovery 3 / LR3
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Another great video by you both. Sending you good health Christian & Vera. Looking forward to the next one.
We really can't trust dealers. Nothing like knowing how to do it.
A hug from Portugal
This is true in Australia too. Better choose your local mechanic carefully too.
I know someone who went off-roading on a discovery and discovered hiking cause it brook down Land Rovers are very needy
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Land rover Werkstätten sind einfach nur wahnsinnig
Well done Christian and Vera great work! I have the a similar issue and now I'm going to change my filter after following Robbies advice page!
Lovely video. I want to hear more from Vera!
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So kind of you!!!!!
Awesome vid
I had the same problem with 125.000kms. It was de fuel pump. I changed it, 500€, and never again....
I have no interest in Land Rovers. but I enjoyed this video, so here, have a ew subscription.
👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
I'm not quite sure what the conclusion of this video was (I watched it twice). The new filter made no difference to the measurements but it solved the issue?
No, it did not. It did only increase the time between failures. In videos down the road, you can see that a new high pressure fuel pump was required and solved the problem. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian Thanks Christian - I just found that video actually. I'm getting the low fuel rail pressure low error and limp mode so will start with the filter and go from there. It had a new HPFP last year so seems unlikely to be that.
Hello All!I bypass the relay and I do not hear the pump running.Is it dead?I replaced the fuse and nothing.Any tips?I did not have any problems before.not the car is not starting.Thanks and sorry for my bad English.
Land Rover Dealership, Service, minor or major, at least £1,000. Local private dealer full service £250. Discovery(s) owner for 20 years.
Where are you based?
another great video . Christian I think the service of this car was made mostly by pen not by tools
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@@Vera_and_Christian $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
When the option allows I am moving next door to you Christian as anyone with a Land Rover needs a good friend like you and every man needs a Vera to keep them in place great video and as always good advice
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Your friend is lucky to know both of you, great job on the repair of his Discovery. Your channel deserves a huge lift in subscriber numbers👌
That is what we hope for the future. We could provide so much more content if the subscribers, but most importantly views would increase. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
There is a drain fitting on the filter, put a pipe on it and slacken it to drain filter, did it make a mess when you took the filter off?
Most of us know where to look to do this, but your videos save us the time and gives us all entertainment along the way! Great stuff as always keep it coming...
Was always told look for the simple things first 90% of the time it is the simple things showing big issues.
Another great and very interesting video, love it when Vera drifts off subject and we're watching the dog in the garden while Christian explain about fuel filter problems.
You can buy complete rebuild kits for the pump. I sell injector repair kits for the TDV6 also :D
Stealerships are the worst place to get repairs, in 45 years I've never had a good experience, they're just parts changers.
Obviously some don’t even change all the parts when required!
One thumbs down from the dealership?
In the future, I think if we get any warning related to fuel, I'm going to change the filter first up.
I never use a K&N air filter. It makes all my cars run ruff.
The only thing a K&N will achieve is more faults and problems . These kind of upgrades are only fit for racing on tracks . With finely tuned race engines . That are rebuilt regularly for optimum performance . If these kind of products offered better running for normal everyday cars wouldn't every car manufacturer definitely fit these as standard . There is a reason they don't period!
Where did the previous owner get that thing serviced?! France? I can't imagine a German technician doing such shoddy work! 😂
Hello Waldo, it really was LR maintained but mods got done in other shops. It is a truly well build vehicle with good and expensive components. It was also driven all over the world. A good buy from my point of view. It even has the rear air and electric steering wheel adjustment. I think LR just missed the filter...👍😳 But running issues did push the price on it...
@@Vera_and_Christian It does have some cool mods!
Excellent video Christian. I think all dealers are on the make. Here in the UK I have a Mercedes and am lucky to have a very good mechanic, works for himself so only does the work that is necessary to keep the car in good order and safe.
The L/R dealerships are crap, I had a good one in Stoke on Trent, until we fell out, after warranty ran out by 67 days, and was told you need a new alternator? £700 please I said YCFO.
I needed alternator they came back with £440 for good relations, don't blame service manager he works for some else. However it goes to a proper service company who do what they have told you have done.
Just shows full dealership service history in reality can be meaning less I know this from my own experience.
"Fabion"?
Tell the truth.
That's obviously Sebastian Vettel.
Sebastian Vettel is your neighbour! :O
😅 I am sure he will be flattered. Actually, Sebastian Vettel was kind of our neighbour. His hometown is barely 20 km away from us 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
Hi guys 👋🏻 Really enjoyed the video. Main dealerships are bug pants 🩲 The just like taking your dosh 💰 🙀 Cheers Stevie 😎🏴
Love you guys and girls, thank you for all that you are doing
Just happened on this by accident, found myself completely mesmerised 👀. Love ❤️ Land Rover, hate the bills 💰😡!!......Every L/R owner should subscribe to this channel. You made DIY repair look so simple!!....Keep them coming....Excellent!!
😀👊🙋♀️ Vera
awesome video i think the main dealer needs to see this and stop ripping people off
The dealer knows this already and that’s why he’s ripping people off!
You'll be amazed how many persistent car problems are caused by the simplest cheapest thing.
You're right 👍🙋♀️ Vera
one of the most unreliable vehicles ever made
Christian thank you for the reply decent of you and much appreciated - yes I saw your postings of your camera on the middle prop shaft bearing - I will give it a try
As usual Awesome info!
Love the side decal on Fabian's Disco, Any tip from where to find it :)
It was done by the previous owner, for sure by professionals in a foil shop. Now we are trying to put foil on our car, and once we are successful, we publish a video about it. But that might take a while 😅. 🙋♀️Vera
I live in Madrid and I only had the fault when I went to the coast. In Madrid the fault didnt apeare. If you have the fault in the same place change the fuel pump
Hi Christian and the lovely Vera, lm in rural France and soon as the nearest decent “all marques” garage look at my LR3 you can see the Euro signs in there eyes, lm disabled now so, l can’t do anything for myself, my vehicle has only done 140k l now have sounds like a diff or diff lock grabbing clonk when l try and climb steeply and put the power on to go up - l was hoping it was the drive shaft - runs fine on the flat lv even taken it too the main LR garage they said they don’t know - they use another garage for repairs and bill accordingly! Any suggestions?
Always difficult to remote diagnose a driveline noise. But my approach would be to mount a camera with Bluetooth and sound below the vehicle at different spots. Best with a external microphone which can be glued to the various gear boxes below the vehicle. Hope you find someone honest to fix this. Thanks. 👍
Great video. Thank you. I like the concealed winch. Do you know which brand he has?
No I don't actually, I will ask him when he comes by today. But I might not find your comment again. Please ask me again in the comments and I let you know then, hopefully. We do however post another video this evening with a link to a winch. And I believe it might be the same one. 😅🙋♀️ Vera
Love your videos: always learn something, always have a giggle. Thank you from the UK!
Christian and Vera great video and presentation from over the pond,,))))) 🇬🇧 fabian Christian will point you in the right direction))))
😅👍🙋♀️ Vera
I love this video. Especially the support and enthusiasm of the wife. I also love the candid narrative of this video. Keep ut up guys! Stay safe and healthy!
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
Had my high presser go £670 for the parts 😠
O Vera what happened to my sticker .....
John😁🇬🇧👍
😃 I've got so many requests and writing them all took me a little longer than planed 😅. They are coming for sure. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
As I might have said, we have a 2000 D2 TD5 which we love, but watching your videos is beginning to make me think I've been too worried about maintaining a D3 if we had to replace ours. I don't like K&N filters either, cheap and nasty but very expensive to buy.
We have a Luna too, ours is a mini schnauzer girl... we have three, two girls and a boy 🐺❤️
Great video, nice and clean explanations. My 2006 Disco 2.7 TDV6 HSE ran for years. Biggest issue I ever had was a bad battery that caused a million dashboard faults. Changed battery and it has ran faultless since. These cars are very solid, and easy to work on. Good job!
Had the same year and model cost me a fortune while I had it. 3 compressors, 2 handbrake modules, multiple bushes in the suspension. Brake servo and master cylinder. Scrapped it at 10 years old when the main stealer wanted 6000 to replace the brake system. Biggest bag of crap ever.
You and your wife made me smile, thank you . Top guy.
Brilliant job, keep up the good work, thank you! :)
That underside needs a good blast of chain saw bar oil thinned with white spirit. It's an excellent rust stopper and its very cheap.
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I’m a first time viewer and really enjoyed your video. I do think owning a LR is akin to self-flagellation but love the resilience of their owners. I of course don’t have such intestinal fortitude and therefore drive a V8 Landcruiser TD. I shall subscribe for more masochism. 😊
I think you found the right channel for that one. Welcome, and I do also really like the V8 Landcruiser, anything V8 is great 😃🙋♀️ Vera
They don’t call them the “ Stealership” for nothing 🎰🎰🎰😉. Ps bought a genuine Delphi fuel water sensor last week for a Ssan Yong. Cost £ 17 the identical part is fitted on Jaguar and probably some LR ‘s List main dealer £ 82 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
If got the same fault, but my problem was realy the pump. It's important to know that i was a campaing to reamplace the pump in guarantee when there was new
Yes, you are right. We might have to change to pump too in the long run. But lets hope not. When it is not clearly obvious what causes the fault, we always go step by step work our way through an elimination process. And we, of course do not offer any guarantee, but Fabian knows this. We just try to help. 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I love my 2010 discovery 4 2.7 tdv6 mostly because of your fantastic videos. I love the way you explained the correlation of the low pressure fuel system to the high pressure system. That explains the sensor thinking the rail pressure is too high because of the difference between the two systems.
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Hey Christian, what could cause my LR3 to smell like petrol, I keep smelling strong peteol smell while parked, LR3 HSE V8 2009
I have a question Lr time, why is 0.4l per minute ok for you fuel flow when on Robbie's Guide he says you need 1.7 -3 L per minute? I am scratching my head with this one
Eres un crack , me alegra que haya una persona como tu en youtube , muchas gracias por tus videos , los que tenemos un discovery3 te lo agradecemos de corazon, porque nos enseñas cosas que nos costarian muchos euros .1000000 thanks. Saludos desde Marbella ESPAÑA
I'll answer in English, thank you for your comment 😃👍🙏. Thankfully Google Translate exists. 🙋♀️ Vera
9:59 Christian, how come you didn't pre-fill the fuel filter with Diesel fuel? Or did I miss it?
11:40 Ok, I see what you did.
Yeah I told him so 😅🙋♀️ Vera
£800 to do the EGR valve, no attempt to clean the valve just replaced with a new one.
That's dealerships for you
We replaced them too, both sides. One side was 70€ and the other 140€ I believe. That was the first job we did on the car. 🙋♀️ Vera
Hi Christian
I really need help with my 2007 discovery 3 2.7 Lt. diesel am having a issue with fuel pressure very high and code am getting is p0088 and p0091-11
I have replaced high pressure pump following your instructions in video
Also replaced rail sensor, injector, fuel filter, still no luck any advise or any suggestions will be much appreciated please and I have no idea what to do next please help 🙏
Changed my lpfp with a new OEM unit from LRDirect; 1.35Liters pr minute, 4psi at the scradervalve at idle, 1psi at 2000rpm. This is with a new original LR fuelfilter and filterbracket also. Pump is running at 2.7-3.0Amps.
So.. still not working. I’m losing pressure AFTER the filter. :/
@@iknutis You need 1.7lts pier minutes. Good pump go to up 3.0Lts pier minutes.
@@Carlostrowbridge Aye, thats what they tell me. I’ve tried 3 different pumps now, all OEM. None draws more than 3.5 amps, none deliver more than 6.5psi at the filter, 4psi at the schrader and around 1.3-1.5liters pr minute.
Hi I'm having limp mode and list of messages. Trans fault. Park brake fault. Hdc fault. Engine fault. Turn on and off car can go between 20 yards and 10miles before happens again. Fault code on engine range between p117d p2290 p191 23 fuel pressure related. Is there way to properly diagnose if its high pressure pump thanks
I'm geting the dreaded ''system engin fault'' and goes into limp mode for 30/40 seconds, fuel filter ordered Disco 3...2.7 hopefully that fixes the job, i tried to put oodles of WD40 in the turbo actuator but it looks OK, when i turn ignition on the actuator is bobbing back and forward ?? any ideas ?
Thanks, learned a lot! Very funny that yawning emogi.
Helas Discovery has lots of issues. But then again, this one has many miles / km's on it. That's good. I truely think the older cars are way way better, than the new ones.
Christian great to see you helping another Discovery owner. I always change the diesel filter yearly along with the front and rear diff oil. Another great video.
We do that too, especially the differential oil. 👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Was für Differenzial Öl nimmst du ?? Und für die mittlere sperrdiffernzial ???
Hi guys i have discovery 3. Checked Lower fuel pump. She was delivery 1.8lt pier minutes. I guesses she is ok. but she still with problem. When i put throttle dawn she cut off before 2000 rpm. I guesses the High pressure pump have a problem but not sure. She all ways in lumpy model.
Never go to the stealer ship
My MY 11 Discovery 4 2.7 Ltd was coming up with Gearbox error and causing the vehicle to stop and it needed to be restarted to clear the fault which would come back intermittently In the end we replaced the fuel filter Housing as well as the fuel filter The fuel filter had been replaced many times previously nut not the housing. This solved a problem that had been causing problems since new. The housing was very cheap to replace with the fuel filter. I will replace it every second time I replace the fuel filter.
Found it! The video with the clickbaity title. 😂 Now I’m positive I need another and better new lpfp from island4x4.
Hope one day a can find a mechanic for my Range as honest and easy going like you man.
👍😃🙋♀️ Vera
Had the a similar experience in the 90's with an Austin Montego! Had it serviced at the local dealership, marked the relevant filters and none had been changed when I checked the next day. Seems this kind of practise never went away.
Land Rover is garbage, always was. Brits never built a decent car. Land Rover is fabulous for mechanics, keeps them busy all year long.
Great video and so nice you help your friends. Careful vera doesn't leave you for her new friend Luna.. lol
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I know people working at JLR, and from their stories of the manufacturing means I would never by a Jaguar Land Rover vehicle
Once again, your brilliant analysis and attention to detail has delivered a wonderful result for Fabian and an entertaining video for us. Thank you Christian and Vera.
A friend of mine had an early Discovery which developed a throttle response problem .The main dealer said it needed a new injection system that would cost £2000.I fixed it with a tie wrap.
😅👍That's a good one, unbelievable🙋♀️Vera
@@Vera_and_Christian The bottom of the carbon track on the throttle potentiometer had worn out so the engine would cut out unless slight pressure was maintained on the accelerator pedal..The tie wrap stopped the movement of the throttle on to the worn out part .It meant that it ticked over a bit faster that's all.A new potentiometer (10 years ago) cost over £800 and many owners who had this problem scrapped the vehicle ! Eventually a second hand potentiometer was sourced for £150.
The best mechanics run local shops that depend on their hard won good reputation. They don't recommend unnecessary work because they need to keep their good name. Big franchised dealers dont give a ** and in any case they'll just swap boxes - at the customers expense of course.
So that's how the dealer makes money - do a sloppy job and then charge big bucks when the vehicle is out of warranty. Grr!!
Same problem at my LR dealer in uk , cannot trust they have done the claimed work , cannot trust what they claim needs doing , finally gave up and after many years bought a different make . By all accounts they employ the cheapest labour mechanics .
One of the very best videos I have seen on car maintenance amusing informative with brave presentations thank you merci beaucoup!
😊👍🙋♀️ Vera
Dealers ha!! Great vid nice saving 👍👨🏻🏭🇬🇧
I see you have a Chinese knock off ‘Mikita’ impact driver, do you like? AwE tested one and liked it.
I service my wifes Sclass for less than £100, Mercedes want about £350 for same service.
Clever man, good job
I had same problem with my Range Rover 3.6 v8 changed fuel filter and solved it
What halfwit at LR decided to install a fuel filter there (?)
Sir you should face a criminal charge for that & be banned for ever from any car plant.
You guys and dolls are FANTASTIC. Enjoyed it again all tha way. Very interesting, i’m going to change my dieselfilter along with the oil change next time (i followed your advise and i’ve also ordered a spare one)
Christian, of course did not order the spare one. So I have to do that again. 😃👍🙋♀️ Vera
What a "" Totally stupid""place for a diesel filter.. Stupid landrover should be ashamed.
Who said the Germans don't have a sense of humour - and self deprecating humour as well! A very interesting video, even though I have no interest whatsoever in Landies!
I would say that looks like the original filter. Another good video 👍
We believe so too 👍🙋♀️ Vera
I bought a Range Rover Classic 3.5l at 10 years old with a full LR service history, there was no oil in the swivels, the diffs had never had the oil changed. Shocking.
I am English and grew up with the original solid workhorse Land Rovers on every farm and construction site. Modern LR’s are nothing like those older ones. I am sad to see this.
Are you in Germany ?
Your English is perfect and your accent is wonderful.
A very good vid. I enjoy seeing how LR has evolved.
Yes, we are in Germany, thanks for the compliment 😀👍🙋♀️ Vera
We have driven our D3 to 42 countries on two expeditions. London to Cape Town and London to Melbourne. We have been to many LR dealerships. I have been cheated in two countries by LR dealerships. 1. London Battersea and 2. Melbourne City Land Rover. 🥲In London I paid for a diffs and transmission fluid service on early maintenance cycle. They never did any of them and that is an expensive service. It also possibly cost me a torque converter later on. In Melbourne they changed the high pressure pump when the low pressure pump was the fault. Zero confidence in LR dealerships to maintain these vehicles. Both times I thought I can trust these dealerships rather than do it myself. Big mistake. Great video, keep it up. 👍👍
Wow, so cool that you did this with a D3. Thanks for sharing. 💪👍🙋♀️ Vera
It will cost considerably more to fix that problem of actually owning a Land Rover.
Why do people keep buying JLR Range Rover, Discovery, Free Landers when they have such a bad reputation for reliability ; they are always in the top 5 of " the most unreliable car" lists
Excellent work and video I love the way you keep so calm. Shame on the Land Rover dealership
I really like watching your blogs but you baffle me with all the technical stuff I had a Discovery 3 for ten years
So that's why they call it a Discovery. You never know what you are gong to Discover. Gpx
The only dislike 👎🏿 is from the old fuel filter that get ripped at the end of the video 😂. Great video, bytheway!
Very rusty underneath they must use a load of salt on the roads there. That filter is a better flow and works by electrostatic attraction to the oil that catches it.
You find a vehicle in such a cleaning and its owner says he still has a lot of trouble ... You are so used to comfort, You really do not deserve to live like this. I don't have a word to the friend trying to fix it
OMG I literally just had this fixed last week. Apparently the solenoids were sticking and they replaced the whole pump (LR4). $2200AUD for the part, plus rear timing belt which they replace at the same time. Ouch!
I saw many such cases during my research. The meeting valve of the pump can act up. This was actually captured by a guy named “French collection” on Disco3.Co.uk. He used a GapIId to graph the command and response values. It is not replaceable and a new pump is required... Christian