Electric Honda Beat Conversion - Episode 11 - Dropping the Engine

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  • Опубліковано 27 лис 2024

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  • @NewZeroland
    @NewZeroland  Рік тому +12

    From all the comments, it sounds like I should make NewZeroland branded socks. Watcha think?

    • @nieledwardmckeeable
      @nieledwardmckeeable Рік тому

      I'd buy a pair lol 😆

    • @TheRealAlpha2
      @TheRealAlpha2 Рік тому

      I'm kinda surprised you spend some much time messing with multiple dozens of kilos stuff, in socks. I would fear just dropping a bolt on my toe without some protection. Can you get socks made out of Kevlar?

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      @@TheRealAlpha2 ehh I've had worse fall on my foot haha. I really wonder if you can get kevlar socks. Surely.

    • @user1user1user1user
      @user1user1user1user Рік тому +1

      Seems like your shirts are getting around, the guys from Australian electric motorcycles are wearing them while selling Energicas…

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      @@user1user1user1user whoa awesome!!

  • @raymutch
    @raymutch Рік тому +4

    Welcome to the world of bashed knuckles and sore muscles you didnt know you had ! Glad to see the cat giving approval!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      😂 Thanks Ray haha. I'm determined to have my cat in as many videos as possible.

  • @ZeroFun
    @ZeroFun Рік тому +5

    Ooooh yeah! Watching Sam drop the beat!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Bout time, huh?? Why is this taking me so long?

    • @ZeroFun
      @ZeroFun Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland Rome wasn’t burnt to the ground in a day. No rush.

  • @andrewmorgan1819
    @andrewmorgan1819 Рік тому +1

    It was Jens idea to put the R3 in the front room? Cooool 😎
    I was genuinely excited to imagine you having a "Christmas R3", decorated with lights and baubles for Christmas 😂
    You've made some serious progress there Sam.
    Those bolts were easy to access. I remember tightening retaining bolt in a De Havilland Victor undercarriage, yes I am that old, and I had to pull the shortened spanner a few millimetres, then flip the spanner over to pull another few mm and carry on doing this until it was tight enough to get a small torque wrench in to finish it off. I'd put my hand through a small hole and, due to my hand swelling, I couldn't pull my hand back through.
    I finally got it out through the enthusiastic and liberal application of Swarfega, so liberal it was running down my arm into my armpit, combined with a "freezer spray" to cool my hand and reduce the swelling. Did I mention that the Aircraft was on jacks?
    That I was stood atop an A-frame ladder?
    That my Chief decided to lower the Aircraft while the team tried to free the idiot apprentice that had managed to get stuck?
    Needless to say, I did not volunteer my tiny hands for any other stupid stunts 🤣

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Holy cow hahaha. These are the crazy moments that make the best stories! Thanks for sharing that 😁 More dismantling to come soon.

    • @andrewmorgan1819
      @andrewmorgan1819 Рік тому +1

      @@NewZeroland It was a tense time 🤣

  • @ericdraven798
    @ericdraven798 Рік тому +2

    Hey Sam,
    I should try that with my wife: parking the motorcycle in the living room!
    This is actually only possible if you are single.
    Thumbs up for Jen!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +3

      Hey if you're cold they're cold. Bring the bikes inside!

  • @coryschramm6667
    @coryschramm6667 Рік тому +2

    How does this dude only have 11k subscribers?

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli90 Рік тому

    Sorry for the late message 🙏 That was cool taking it apart & getting the fellas to help out👌 This is going to be a fantastic project 🤟

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Cheers man! Glad ya liked it. The next episode is taking forever to edit but should be fun too.

  • @ronaldb479
    @ronaldb479 Рік тому

    The car purred one last time for you before you took out the guts. It was so satisfying to see it come out and man I forgot that it had that many bolts and liquids and wires!!! Great stuff brother!!!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Thanks man!! Such an exciting time. Now the real fun can begin 😁

  • @gloom7351
    @gloom7351 Рік тому +1

    Cat at 1:36

  • @AntonyvanIersel
    @AntonyvanIersel Рік тому

    I believe it, I believe. Time flies, and is filled in with watching you tube videos about electric bikes and gas conversions that is a motorbike conversion, no - its a car. No.... Its a....... Motorcar. Carbike, bikecar - I don't know, does it need a type. It's a conversion - and one less gas doing gassing. I am happy. Good video, thank you.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Haha thank YOU! Lots of people swap Hayabusa engines into little cars like these, so I chose a different kind of motorcycle powertrain to use :D

  • @PaulWayper
    @PaulWayper Рік тому

    "That was the wrong bolt". 🤣 Oh man have we all been there!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Haha I mean, it had to come out eventually

  • @Magic_Toaster
    @Magic_Toaster Рік тому +3

    I think it's going to sound a lot better with the energica drivetrain in there. The whine of the reduction gear sounds wonderful to me now, pure music

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Meeeee too!! I much prefer the sound of a jet turbine than a raspy Honda exhaust.

    • @twrcrew8852
      @twrcrew8852 Рік тому

      at least once its moving. they all sound pretty lame in the first few mph

    • @Magic_Toaster
      @Magic_Toaster Рік тому

      @twrcrew8852 all the more reason to get above those speeds as fast as you can 😀

    • @twrcrew8852
      @twrcrew8852 Рік тому

      ​@@Magic_Toaster lol true. I do like how sam is a genius in that motorcycle engines have been used in cars before, and his will be the first that can actually drive like one with REVERSE!
      Has anyone found any info on how dendrite build up affects long term ownership and range in the energica cells? since these bikes are used like.. well, bikes. as contrast to EV packs in 4 wheel cars where manufacturers tell you explicitly to take it easy off the line, since fast discharge and fast charge are the main source of dendrite formation in lithium packs.

  • @score-graffix5694
    @score-graffix5694 Рік тому +2

    AWESOME!!! I'm wishing/hoping for you to succeed - and I'll follow every episode on this!
    If you haven't found him already, possibly get in touch with Richard ("Moggy") from "Electric Classic Cars" - he just might have ideas on e-replacement auxilaries (vacuum pumps, heater units, differential gearing header/adapter, etc) - they have converted a few beetles & minis before.
    X-ing my fingers for your project!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Thanks man! Yeah I love Electric Classic Cars. They do amazing work. This project will be different. Definitely not as clean as their builds, but it'll be fun.

  • @sergiorelvas
    @sergiorelvas Рік тому +1

    Waiting for the next episodes... Great work...

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Cheers!

    • @sergiorelvas
      @sergiorelvas Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland in Portugal you have big big fans when you think visit us give me a warning...

    • @sergiorelvas
      @sergiorelvas Рік тому

      Is the other side of the world, it is very accurate... Lol...

  • @dr3wize
    @dr3wize Рік тому +1

    Loving the Beat videos, super interesting project!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Cheers man! Glad you're liking it so far.

  • @Tothefloor
    @Tothefloor Рік тому +1

    Come back to the states!!! GA and NC are nice places to be.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      GA just banned kei cars hahaha, so I'm definitely not going there. NC is on the list though. I'd love to ride on the Tail of the Dragon!

  • @ricefield
    @ricefield Рік тому

    I've been waiting for sooo long. absolutely brilliant videos though

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Haha cheers! It's all finally happening 😁

  • @MatyasLemberTutorials
    @MatyasLemberTutorials 10 місяців тому

    These videos are so much fun to watch! Love them :D
    A bit behind schedule watching them, but at least I have more hihi

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks man! I haven't made much progress so it's good that you're behind 😂

  • @DaReapa
    @DaReapa Рік тому

    Exciting to see this being worked on, curious to see if it evolves as things continue. You may consider still using the Tesla charger if you want to use the exisitng and use the adapter. Theres a good chance Tesla port will become standard with more manufacturers starting to tap into the Tesla network.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Good point. I'm not sure if the rest of the world will adopt that too, but maybe. It would definitely make my conversion cleaner. I'm still thinking of putting the charging port behind the license plate though. That would get it closer to the station.

  • @spike_spencer
    @spike_spencer Рік тому

    Ah, the joys of working on cars. I hope you can get something a little better setup, even with that lightweight car and an engine and trans I can bench press I would have wanted to take everything apart while it was on or near the gorund then raise it in the air and just let the engine stay on the ground. It's little enough weight I almost thing you could build a small lift out of ladders or hook up some hoists to the garage ceiling. Personally I went with the QuickJack to lift all of my vehicles as it's the only way to safely jack up a Porsche 911 or a Viper, and I'd imagine the Beat is similar. Was one of the best investments in an automotive tool I've ever made and they keep their value very well.
    Looking forward to seeing more progress now you've got it indoors!
    ....Side note on the stolen Zero drama, they found it a couple of weeks ago, so now I have to patiently wait to see if I can get it from the insurance auction in the coming months whenever they finally activate the auction. Trying to get used to the Energica and even DC fast charged in 20 minutes last week while getting out of the rain, which was cool but I also dropped it as I knew I would at some point though was hoping it would be after I figured out frame sliders for it. So now I have a broken turn signal and a broken fairing and it took two people to lift it back up. I knew it was going to be heavy but I truly had no idea how heavy it was going to be and how high the CG was going to be unlike every other electric motorcycle out there. If I was a lot taller maybe I would enjoy it more but honestly I want my Zero back with the much better range and easy lightweight maneuverability.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Aw man! You got an older 13.4 bike huh? You're right, they're crazy heavy and at slow speeds they're pretty awkward to maneuver. The new ones are still heavy but sooo much easier to ride. Will your insurance company offer to sell back the Zero to you at a lower price? I looked into the QuickJack and it's definitely the ultimate. That's what dudeman in Japan used, and he lifted the car off the engine, like you said. I couldn't justify spending $3k NZD on one though. This project is already over budget 😂 and I'd only use it that one time. All good though. It's been fun so far! Thanks for watching 😁

    • @spike_spencer
      @spike_spencer Рік тому

      Yeah I've been enjoying the build quite a bit. I got my QJ for $700 locally from a guy who used it once so honestly I didn't have to waste any time assembling it or even buying the fluid for it. You'd find uses for it. It's awesome for me because every vehicle I own has had the entire suspension gone through on there, I use it to spray off the 5KG of mud I come back with from rally races, etc.
      It's kind of hard to think of the newest vehicle I own now as a 2019 an "old" model but yes it's the 13.4, I really want to like it but it's just not what I was hoping for I guess. I really wanted to get a Harley Livewire, which despite being naked is still my favorite electric to ride. However, their resale keeps them out of my reach even used. So I hope to get the Zero back. I would have preferred to buy it back from insurance, I've done that with other vehicles but once they gave me the check for twice what I paid for the Zero it was too late, so now I have to take my chances at a salvage vehicle auction, which I'm no stranger to thankfully, but it's with a different company than I usually go through with a much higher membership cost of $200 just to be allowed to bid, then whatever I get it for I'll have to pay winning bid fees, lot fees, administrative fees, title fees, 10% sales tax, license plate technology fees, inspection fees, and registration fees. So probably about $1,500 on top of whatever I get it for, which I hope because of it's described condition is going to only be a couple thousand.

  • @TheRealAlpha2
    @TheRealAlpha2 Рік тому

    At this rate it might be ready in time for SEMA! 😄You're ripping through this thing at a great speed. The removal of the engine is probably the easiest part as long as you don't need a lift. You clearly only needed a couple of friends, some Tacos, and some Band-aids. It's fabricating all the stuff that makes the motor work that might be a struggle. I also wonder if it's not going to require some sound deadening. Electric motor will be a lot quieter, but you're still inches away from it inside a metal echo chamber.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      SEMA 2030 maybe haha. And oh yeah it'll be a challenge, for sure. I have an idea of how to mount everything, but it's a tight space in there. You're right about the noise. It might even be louder than the engine was. Not even kidding!

  • @devonbrinn1299
    @devonbrinn1299 Рік тому

    stoked to see more content on the Beat, as a fellow Kiwi Beat owner I'm considering doing a swap similar to this in the future, either an electric swap or a busa swap so I'm Gonna be following along religiously :)

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Whoa nice!! Where are you at? I'm actually selling the engine to a Beat owner in Napier. When I finish this project we should meet up.

  • @twrcrew8852
    @twrcrew8852 Рік тому

    Converting a gas car to electric (especially from the 90s) is always a lot lighter than anything a modern company could have possibly created and sold with modern safety standards. Structurally, this Kei car is made of very thin sheet metal as well, with no monolithium to support under any of it. There will be structural issues that cannot be present in a ground-up EV compliant with regulations. that's a large part of what contributes to the car weighing a whole lot less than it would have. The modified community also learns this when they take a car to triple the power and then crash it. When a company is at fault, they need to brace the braces and reinforce the reinforcements to ensure the battery has as little a chance of mating with the rest of the car in a crash and staying out of the drivers compartment while not meddling with cabin structure nor crumple zones outside of this, etc, etc, etc.

    • @twrcrew8852
      @twrcrew8852 Рік тому

      perhaps not in the case of a 107kw motor, but in the extreme power (torque) examples, that extra power also gives rise to structural concerns in general operation as well. High power production can create torsion and tension far above the intended specs of a chassis and begin to bend and twist at the structure of the vehicle itself and distort it over time. At the very least it accelerates structural fatigue (though this phenomenon is unavoidable. the rate of degradation is directly correlated to the extremity of use)

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      @@twrcrew8852 I'll talk to an engineer before designing mounts for all this, for sure. I have ideas but they'll be able to tell me how possible it is. I'm not adding that much more weight to it, so the stock mounts should be able to handle it all. If I die in a firey crash, remember this comment where I said it should be fine lol.

  • @willyd-adv
    @willyd-adv Рік тому

    This is why I have a 3 car garage 😂
    Great video yet again.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      I'm so jealous of your garage man!!

    • @willyd-adv
      @willyd-adv Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland yeah it's good..... but wait until you see the new one. It's even bigger but hay i have 26 vehicles now 🤣

  • @RedBatteryHead
    @RedBatteryHead Рік тому +1

    You can sell the remaining petrol for crazy money these days 😜
    Nice safety socks 👍

  • @dmain6735
    @dmain6735 Рік тому

    Sweet

  • @Causemoi
    @Causemoi Рік тому

    I'm impatient!

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      You can play the video on 2x speed if you want haha

  • @berttroubleyn3475
    @berttroubleyn3475 Рік тому

    I was one of the people commenting on your dodgy jack stands and now I'm here to tell you I was holding my breath when I saw the heavy engine being dumped on the floor right next to those socked feet.
    How more obvious can I make it that I'm a dad? ;)

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      😂😂😂 ahhh what are a few missing toes?

    • @berttroubleyn3475
      @berttroubleyn3475 Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland You're right. You've ditched your last bikes with a shifter and electric bikes have regen braking, so you don't really need your toes anymore ;)

  • @moestrei
    @moestrei Рік тому

    It's the other way round: Tesla was first with DC fast charging and the what is now called NACS connector. The CCS1 and CCS2 standards came later. Interestingly CCS1 is now on its way out in the US and NACS becomes the new de facto standard.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      That's not how I heard it, but I wonder if NACS will replace CCS2 around the world, or just stay in North America. It's a way nicer unit.

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland Well a new DC only bidirectional standard would be best as there is no point for the vehicle to carry AC/DC and DC/AC conversion equipment. In many countries you have 3 phase in your home and NACS does not support 3 phase. Most people don't get it that for home single phase 32A (7.8kW) is quite sufficient for home charge....plus most euro manufacturers are too arrogant to accept Tesla tech.

    • @gasdive
      @gasdive Рік тому

      You're both right.
      The Menekes type 2 connector dates from 2009, but was AC only. So pre Tesla.
      The extension, CCS 2 that added DC is after Tesla. In fact Tesla used to use a variation of the Menekes plug that did both AC and DC without the two extra DC pins from CCS

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      @@gasdive true! There are still some of those Mennekes DC plugs on Superchargers here for older Teslas.

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei Рік тому +1

      @@gasdive
      Yes I have such an older Tesla: When DC charging L1 and L2 gets switched parallel for DC+ and N and L3 for DC-.
      They did that because the CCS inlet did not fit physically at the charge port location for classic S and X. Before the CCS conversion kit there was a Chademo adapter also. My car can charge 22kW AC, 50kW Chademo and 100kWp on CCS. Has been very handy now that many fast chargers can load share with the otherwise useless Chademo cable.
      Fun fact: The V1 SuC were made out of 11 Tesla AC chargers operated in parallel.

  • @stevenb7319
    @stevenb7319 Рік тому

    Nice. Are you going to put the rear wheels and suspension back on so you have a rolling frame. If not I’d suggest getting a movers dolly to put the back of the car on. Some times you need to move the thing on the jacks just a few inches and can’t.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Oooo great idea! I'm almost done under the car so it might be a good time to put the wheels back on. Then I could roll it outside and buy more bikes lol.

    • @stevenb7319
      @stevenb7319 Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland 🤣

  • @nieledwardmckeeable
    @nieledwardmckeeable Рік тому

    Loving this so far, where can i get a pair of safety socks from?

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      You have to special order them but they're worth every penny.

  • @tipenelee
    @tipenelee Рік тому

    Choooooooice bro

  • @MrSnowMen
    @MrSnowMen Рік тому

    Your not in England where it was the wettest July on record (using records since 1891), Thats our summer.
    AVATAR for the Win. Put the car fuel in the bike (Doh, it's gone)
    Garage fun with your Flintstone car and no limit on day/night/rain/SNOW?
    Enjoying that your binging us on ya ride on car conversion.
    Good Luck

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Thanks man! Haha I love the commentary. Glad you're liking the series so far! Hopefully I can put it together in the end.

  • @ZoneKei
    @ZoneKei Рік тому

    I am very happy to not be smelling what you're smelling. Doing fuel stuff is the second worst, after gearbox fluid stuff.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      Oh man, yeah. I pulled the axles.out and my garage smells like grease now. And leaking coolant haha.

  • @samusaran7317
    @samusaran7317 Рік тому

    Are you going to mount the battery pack underneath where it should be? If not... Why?

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      There is no underneath lol. I'll mount it right where the engine was, behind the cabin, but as far forward as possible.

    • @samusaran7317
      @samusaran7317 Рік тому

      @@NewZeroland Same thing with my car that was originally gas but they figured it out.

  • @antmoto6668
    @antmoto6668 Рік тому

    'don't do anything I do' ...haha! yeah ok.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      That goes double for wearing socks

  • @NoLimitHd92
    @NoLimitHd92 Рік тому

    Its gonna be so fast with the bike engine 😅

  • @RandysRides
    @RandysRides Рік тому

    They sure packed a lot of stuff into a small place. Kinda sad for you, getting rid of your track bikes...... sigh. But, sometimes sacrifices pay off. This car is gonna be cool.

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +2

      It's ok.. the rental bikes at the track are a blast. I think we'll downsize and save money for a while before deciding what bikes to buy next.

  • @jonwebb9261
    @jonwebb9261 Рік тому

    I feel a large 3D scan coming up..........

  • @pinaero
    @pinaero Рік тому

    First to Drop the Beat!

    • @MrSnowMen
      @MrSnowMen Рік тому

      @pinaero I't only just dropped, Dang

    • @motoriderj6448
      @motoriderj6448 Рік тому +1

      🙄 for cheating and also 👏 for word play.

  • @jonwebb9261
    @jonwebb9261 Рік тому

    Why are only 1 in 3 engine removers wearing shoes🤣

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Two entered through the house and one came in through the garage haha. I never expected to get so many comments about our socks.

  • @captaincph3954
    @captaincph3954 Рік тому

    Rate your safety 😅 Dropping a 100kg engine in your socks 😮
    Good videos though. 👍

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому +1

      Those are steel toe reinforced kevlar safety socks!

    • @moestrei
      @moestrei Рік тому

      Easy access for medics in case something goes wrong. Can you imagine the pain of getting an injured foot out of a laced up safety boot?

    • @NewZeroland
      @NewZeroland  Рік тому

      @@moestrei I can! I have. I had a 5000lb container roll over my boot and the steel toe part of it curved into my foot.

  • @gebo1808
    @gebo1808 Рік тому

    For the love of God PLEASE WEAR SHOES!!!