Gary Hale An inline-Triple is naturally “ crossplane,” having its three crankpins in three different planes, spaced at 120 degrees to each other. It's Yamaha marketing ploy calling it a CP3 to link it to the CP4 engine. That is a genuine crossplane as the firing order makes it a Big Bang engine. Yams Triple is no different to my old 675 Street Triple or my current Daytona!
@@exuptoy yes it's the cross plane engine concept. Says CP3 on side case. Yamaha got those motors down brother. I have 2015 FZ. not newr MT. meat and potatoes- no restrictions
Good overall test on a great bike. One small comment I would correct you on was when you said that the bike making about 80 lbs of torque. Not a chance, and it would need to be about 1000 cc to do that. Yamaha claim high sixties for it which results in 63lbs at the rear wheel in most Dyno tests. Its still plenty for such a light bike and it kicks in early with that engine design.
If it is the same as my Tracer you can remove the throttle free play easily. Follow the cable from the throttle and there is a rubber sleeve. Roll the sleeve back to reveal the adjusting screw. Nice vid as usual.
Test rode mt09 and mt10 SP, quickshifter was unuseable unless really gunning it. Throttle still really snatchy to the point it was dangerous in slow traffic. Power of MT10 was insanely fun, so much power! And you could really sling it about in corners and that sound!!!! If that throttle was smoother it would be a dynamite bike. Test rode the speed triple RS straight after the MT10 and the refinement was on a different level. The all out mentalness was not there but more torque and just beautifully useable power. Throttle is do look smooth and felt more planted in corners
Bought this bike, test rode new street triple, Z900, xsr900 and BMW f800r. All great bikes but I found the MT09 just made me smile and laugh the most in my helmet, made me feel comfortable and inspired confidence, it just sparked something inside me. My mate stiffened the front and rear suspension for me, feels nice and firm now where it was feeling soft in the front. Only gripe is the seat hurts my bum after an hour or two. Great bike if you choose it, she won't disappoint. Ride safe
Agreed its a fun bike indeed and good value! Im looking forward to trying the new KTM 790 as that is its new direct competitor. May have to do a back to back test..
Ive had this for 6 weeks now and you can realy work with the stock suspension quite well even if your are around 95-100 kg like me. It has a wery soft set upp from factory. For me this is a beast off a bike. Much faster and more fun than the Kawasaki Z900 I had last year. My bike is 5.5 kg lighter than stock and around 5 hp more with full exhaust. 187.5 kg and 120hp is not bad esp with that torque.
I took the MT9 out for a test ride before a bought the GSX-S 750,they are both about the same power the only reason i didn't buy the MT was due to seat size been only 4ft and a peanut i my self bow leg on it and found it hard to get feet down at traffic light ect.But that said it's a awesome bike to ride and i might when it comes time to chance the Suzuki get MT10...
16:05 I think lifting the back up could make the bike maybe dangerously unstable though. As you mentioned it is already very 'flickable' due to the short wheelbase and low steering rake. Out of the factory it already has a rake of 25 degrees, which is relatively extreme (sportsbikes generally have 25 degrees, but have a longer wheelbase which improves stability somewhat). I have read some people already getting wobbles with the stock setup. Rising the rear would only make this angle smaller, so I think if you do that you'd better also get a steering damper for highway speeds. Either that, or you have to lift up the front as well to retain the same caster angle.
you can adjust the "wobbly throttle"' check further up the throttle cable. I have the xsr900 and had the same issue, same engine. Yamaha did good with that 3-cyl. Every time I roll on the throttle I still get that feeling - I get giddy.
kalel33 The ride-by-wire throttle (cable) controls an electrical/electronic servo which adjusts the throttle bodies. That is different from the mechanical adjustability of the throttle free play.
Yeah, I thought you were of a larger statue. I'm gonna have to check it out. I'm 6'2" pushing 290. Thx for the response. I can't wait to test ride this bike!
I just paid off my 2017, and I’m at the point where I’d normally be looking for new bike... but I just can’t. It’s like a bad romance. We’re gonna kill each other.
That bike looks quite tame, but when I tried it, I having a hard time to front tire om the ground, thats what keeping me from considering it for my next bike.
+Psycho Paul yeah maybe it's now euro 4 strangled .. I'm sure power commander and an exhaust and filter would transform it. I couldn't even clutch it up in third!
The thing I liked about older models like 2014-2015s were that the front wheel would come up as soon as you roll on the throttle which isn’t the case with these newer models I guess due to traction control and wheelie control.Many people would prefer it this way but I personally like a bike that’s wild and loves to wheelie and back flip on me as soon as I roll the throttle..
Yes sir - my 3rd season on my 2015 FZ09 not MT09. all meat and potatoes. No ABS traction control etc. Have to get used to snappy throttle yes but the 14 - 15 models also have the quickest 0 - 60. Less than 3 seconds mate. Some people dont believe that but I'm telling you . Look it up. I never really wheelie on my older motorcycle but now I've done HUNDREDS of 1st and 2nd gear wheelies on this Just little ones. It takes some talent to roll on and on but it will hold up the tire gear after gear if your brave and talented. And can afford one to practice and drop. I've ridden from Ohio to Massachusetts - to PA - W.VA- Blue ridge parkway etc. Padded seat velcro additionl on and I ride fine all damn day. Never gonna sell. Iconic bike. I'm 52 this year and I tell you speed is exhilarating but torque is more fun and keeps me young!
Sweet review for a sweet bike. I love these things. & because I know you've got Super bike & Supermoto experience, your opinion only makes me love them all the more. Definitely a main contender for a future step up.
+Bimble thanks Bimble, it's a great do it all bike for the money and I think with an exhaust and power commander would transform the throttle response and unlock a fair amount of power and torque! Defo a contender for the best affordable bike out there!
I have no trouble driving a rear wheel with traction control 1. You just need to be a bit softer on the gas :). I like your videos keep it up!. Greetings for Sweden :)
+Enduro Gav yes absolutely for the money it's very impressive! Also a great all rounder which don't look half bad. Need to try the updated street triple next to compare.. want to try the rs if I can 😉
I dont have money for ducati hyper and i want a tall bike should i buy this i m very carefull and capable but never before riden anythig except bycicle that i can drive big speed without hands in very sharp corrners :) and yes im 189
Don't like the rear wheel guard, and those yellow wheel turn me off. The front end looks unfinished. Apart from that I enjoyed your review and watched until the end.
You can get a screen, that helps a bit with the front, I'm still unsure about the number plate mount/guard but it cleans up the tail. I am a big fan of the MT range. I'm hoping to do some lessons on the MT-07 soon, knowing my luck I'll get the FJ6, still be fun though.
It's weird. I rode this at the Yam test day at Boxhill last year and hated it. That seat was unbearable for me after 40mins, it crushed my plums so much! I found the MT10 and absolute joy to ride however, comfy, smooth and mental when you wanted it. Great vid as always sir!
These were £7300 in 2015 with a free Akrapovic worth £1000 & now they're £8542 in my local dealer so it isn't a cheap bike anymore just like the MT 10 was less than 10k & now 12k otr
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about, I totally agree with you. A quickshifter is not designed to turn your bike into an automatic, it's meant for when you are gunning it and your engine is in it's peak powerband in which you are supposed to shift, it then let's you slide in your gear without realeasing the throttle. = quick shift. Not slow shift
I have the first year 2014 with the original programming. Yes it's a brute! The throttle is something to get used to, but when you do it is brilliant! The 2017 seems docile, slow to respond to throttle input, hard to wheelie. Mine is hard to keep the front down! The 2017 front end looks horrible! Traction control? I bought mine because it's a dumb bike. No ABS, No traction control, just pure bike! I have made needed suspension upgrades that make the bike a cornering beast by replacing the fork internals with a brilliant kit from Stoltec and the rear shock from a Suzuki Hyabusa that's nearly a direct fit. It's not a long distance bike, it's stiff, the seat is a sheet of plywood, a butt buster! As a canyon carver, track day bike and drag racer it's damned good at all of them now! Predictable. I do want to add the quick shifter that would better my ET's and lap times to finish it as about the best all around bike with probably the best tripe motor I know of.
2008 and earlier GSXR and Hyabusa are nearly a direct fit. The swing arm bushing and bolt are a different size, but by using the Yamaha bolt and bushing in the Suzuki shock fixes that. The Suzuki spring is too stiff, I reused the stock Yamaha spring. To fit the external reservoir, you'll need to trim out the plastic pan under the seat and move the harnesses aside.
I have a Stoltec Moto valve and shim stack kit, along with stiffer springs that evens out rebound and compression quite nicely! I have a lot more confidence in its handling now and can canyon carve it well!
corbin luster I’ll answer. Been riding for a few years. Had a liter as my first bike, it depends on your patience level if you’re new. If you’re not then it depends on power. 09 will outperform low end but gsxr will always win high end. If you want to go 180. Go for gsxr if you like 0-60 go 09
@@allsportfreak23 i bought new 2020 yamaha mt09 SP and its fucking awsome bike also over 150 km/h have very good aerodinamic for naked bike...im surprised how smooth is gear box and how good bike is going into corner's
did you talk about the updated suspension on the bike, few updates done into the 2018 bike generally same as new 2017 but you should be able to change TC as you ride. please do review the z900 and XSR900
Think you had fun there!!....Agree about the looks bud, nicer than its bigger brother...have to change the bars though, don't get this trend for bolt upright riding position on the latest crop of nakeds, it's wank..lose all feeling for the front end, get twatted more by the wind and it's uncomfortable on the ass!...needs lots more lean - ride with the core and stop putting all the weight through the wrists...
sadly mt-09 is not a budget bike for me in denmark. 8000 pound is 80.000 danish kroner but with tax +other crap it costs 130.000 in denmark. that is 13.000 pounds :(
So it's basically the taxes that hikes up the price difference that much? That sucks. I actually thought Denmark would be a lot better about bikes than Sweden. We seem to hate everything that isn't taking the bus or walking. But yeah, looking at the danish Yamaha prices right now and I'm shocked. The MT-07 is OK priced though.
Hey men, mt 09 vs ktm 690 smc or husqvarna 701 SM, all brand new. What would you chose and why? Just wondering. Great videos by the way. Keep it up bro :)
+Sebastião well I can answer that one honestly as I did buy the 701 😀 liked it over the 690 as was a new design, preferred the looks better steering lock. Mt09 is great but wanted an SM, if it was an only bike the MT probably better choice..
690 is get round town and twisties but i literally just sold my ktm with the idea to buy a mt09 i was just sick of hanging on for dear life and having my handles vibrating so much. and riding longer distance isnt fun on the ktm.
I've looked at MT09 dyno charts and typically they appear to give a max torque figure of around 64-65lb/ft (at around 8400rpm). Below 6000rpm there's less than 57lb/ft so I'm always surprised when it's called a wheelie monster as low-down torque isn't that high. Maybe the gearing helps???
Good review. I have to say it's like a Z1000 wannabe.....but that's probably a bit harsh... I should probably say I can't understand why companies are producing bikes that are literally 100cc apart..!
+Comfy Sofa yes true but it's 100 cc and missing a cylinder 😀 it's a long way off in powet compared to the mt-10 completely different animal, don't let the capacity fool you into thinking it must be similar.. now the mt07 that could be a different story.. may have to try one and find out
But thats the thing isnt it.....if its a long way off then why bother...? you may as well go for the mt07. None of them are for me (the mt range) its definately subjective but for me they look awful, but then, the next person may think theyre the best looking bikes ever. But, its a good thing otherwise there'd be no variety! Im hoping to get to Loomies a couple of times this year (live is Bristol) so if i do ill send you a tweet...you may be free for a meet up... :) One thing i must say which was refreshing to see from your review was that pretty well all of the mainstream reviewers, fast bikes, performance bikes etc etc didnt mention the shitty qs and some of the other stuff you were critical of, which is how a review should be...ive found that these days from a mainstream reviewers angle everything is great - theres never really a bad review as they wouldnt get asked to fly half way round the world on these things..... The thing i always find funny is the year after when the current one is old news then theres always things wrong with it...i always remember watching a panigale review with Al Fagan and he talked about the previous years model as being a "scaffold bar with wheels"...
+Comfy Sofa yes defo up for a meet up if your down buddy sounds good. Sunday mornings or weds evenings on bike night at loomies are always good for me 👍 it's very true what you say about reviews, I will tell it how I see it, what's the point otherwise.. and your absolutely right about last year's models all of a sudden being rubbish when they were the best thing since sliced bread 6 months ago! 😀
Heh - yeah....not just me that sees that then.... Loomies: yep - sunday morning is the time i/we would go. For the last couple of years some of us on the af1 forum have had an RSV4 meetup....(just about to get this years meetup thread going). Ironically my work takes me to Worthing once a month and i travel along the A27 (and past Freestyle Yamaha) and think one day i might see him!! so if some bloke in a middle management company car tries to pull you over theyre not going to lamp you! :)
Hey CHOPS.... Big Ed, from the States... really interested in this bike,but I might be to big for it...was wondering about your height and weight.... and what your recommended limits are ...for accommodating this bike?
Hey brother! I'm from America too. MERCA!!!!!! LOL. I have the fj 09 and I'm 6 foot 4 inches 270 lbs. Fits me fantastic. I look good on it too. Now the fz 09 looks a little small on me. Not terrible but I don't like looking to big for my bike. As far as feel, it feels fine for my size. But again it looks a little small for me. Check out the fj 09 same engine, bigger bike and I think it's better looking.
+Rad “BigBadRad” hmm could be a little to much for a first bike but I guess with the electronics... but in the UK you can't as it's not A2 legal not sure elsewhere.. the mt07 may be a better first big bike option
Which naked bike is best for having fun and carry gf lol on back from Aprilia , BMW , Yamaha , ktm , Suzie? I'm looking at going down more up right bike I got gsxr600 but for health reasons I might be more happy on up right bike instead of be hunched over the bars . Keep up great vids
+Tattofear Fear I think if you need to take passengers regularly than perhaps the GSX-S 750 or 1000 would be a good choice. Super duke or tuono are front wheel light anyway without extra weight over the rear! S1000r might be good for passengers perhaps but have a feeling rear seat is quiet small..
That fast reply only just done it lol cool thanks I'll have look about for test ride c what I think 👍 .so mt09 not as good as some of your other naked bikes then ?
Hahaha hell yeah we got some sun at last might have go test ride some bikes on weekendI have say I do like look of s1000r but it's bit of my price range as most of bikes out there lol I'm still having fun on my gsxr but be bit more easier on upright I think lol really u need test ride bike for more then couple hours wish I could have one for weekend lol
I think it's a pointless upgrade unless you take it to a track, at least here where I live with the current road quality and traffic. I have tried both the new MT-09 and the SP. Coming from a 2014 MT-09 I didn't feel much difference on the road between the 2018 MT-09 and SP except they both are a lot better then the older model that I ride. I wouldn't personally get the SP model, instead I would modify a regular MT-09 with the money that you save; new exhaust, a tune, heated grips, cosmetic upgrades etc.
I disagree with Ta3kno solely on the basis of it really just depends on your weight and size- for me the suspension on the standard is absolulte shite- and I'd highly reccomend upgrading to the SP for an extra grand, as it will cost atleast that for some decent suspension. IMO (and the opinion of many professionals) Suspension and setup should be the second most important upgrade- the first being tyres.
How would you compare this to the MT-10? I'm trying to decide between the new MT-09SP and the MT-10 but I ride mostly city and mountain roads. I live in a small island so 90% speeds below 150 km/h
Thats a tough one.. For me it would be the MT10 but then Im a power freak, I enjoyed the MT10 more but the MT09 probably handled better and Im sure with the improved suspension it would be even better! Power wise the MT10 is way more powerful. I would suggest a test ride of both
The all black model looks crazy good! Great review with lot's of chuckles well done ol' chap.
LambChop, the "waggly" throttle you refer to at 16:59 is called throttle free play and is adjustable on most modern sport bikes.
850cc, triple cylinder, small, light, 100mph in less than 7 seconds and it has a crossplane engine for under 8k. Wow!
Troll Troll it's more near 9k now
No crossplane motor in this one, thats the MT10. This ones a triple.
Gary Hale An inline-Triple is naturally “ crossplane,” having its three crankpins in three different planes, spaced at 120 degrees to each other. It's Yamaha marketing ploy calling it a CP3 to link it to the CP4 engine. That is a genuine crossplane as the firing order makes it a Big Bang engine. Yams Triple is no different to my old 675 Street Triple or my current Daytona!
@@exuptoy yes it's the cross plane engine concept. Says CP3 on side case. Yamaha got those motors down brother. I have 2015 FZ. not newr MT.
meat and potatoes- no restrictions
Good overall test on a great bike. One small comment I would correct you on was when you said that the bike making about 80 lbs of torque. Not a chance, and it would need to be about 1000 cc to do that. Yamaha claim high sixties for it which results in 63lbs at the rear wheel in most Dyno tests. Its still plenty for such a light bike and it kicks in early with that engine design.
If it is the same as my Tracer you can remove the throttle free play easily. Follow the cable from the throttle and there is a rubber sleeve. Roll the sleeve back to reveal the adjusting screw. Nice vid as usual.
+John Ramsbottom wow didn't know that now feel like a fool hehe. Will see if my 701 is the same as drives me nuts!
Test rode mt09 and mt10 SP, quickshifter was unuseable unless really gunning it. Throttle still really snatchy to the point it was dangerous in slow traffic. Power of MT10 was insanely fun, so much power! And you could really sling it about in corners and that sound!!!!
If that throttle was smoother it would be a dynamite bike.
Test rode the speed triple RS straight after the MT10 and the refinement was on a different level.
The all out mentalness was not there but more torque and just beautifully useable power.
Throttle is do look smooth and felt more planted in corners
Bought this bike, test rode new street triple, Z900, xsr900 and BMW f800r.
All great bikes but I found the MT09 just made me smile and laugh the most in my helmet, made me feel comfortable and inspired confidence, it just sparked something inside me.
My mate stiffened the front and rear suspension for me, feels nice and firm now where it was feeling soft in the front.
Only gripe is the seat hurts my bum after an hour or two.
Great bike if you choose it, she won't disappoint.
Ride safe
Agreed its a fun bike indeed and good value! Im looking forward to trying the new KTM 790 as that is its new direct competitor. May have to do a back to back test..
Ive had this for 6 weeks now and you can realy work with the stock suspension
quite well even if your are around 95-100 kg like me. It has a wery soft set upp from
factory. For me this is a beast off a bike. Much faster and more fun than the Kawasaki
Z900 I had last year. My bike is 5.5 kg lighter than stock and around 5 hp more with full
exhaust. 187.5 kg and 120hp is not bad esp with that torque.
SRT SPEEDY Mancaveproduct “but its not as fast as a superduke” 🙄🙄
@@doylee469 Who compared it to a superduke? Its not sub 8k bro, more like 15.
SRT SPEEDY Mancaveproduct I was referencing the video man, not you. He said it’s not superduke fast.
Tip: if you mount the gopro closer to the handle bars and without so many extensions, it wont shake nearly as bad, mate.
I took the MT9 out for a test ride before a bought the GSX-S 750,they are both about the same power the only reason i didn't buy the MT was due to seat size been only 4ft and a peanut i my self bow leg on it and found it hard to get feet down at traffic light ect.But that said it's a awesome bike to ride and i might when it comes time to chance the Suzuki get MT10...
16:05 I think lifting the back up could make the bike maybe dangerously unstable though. As you mentioned it is already very 'flickable' due to the short wheelbase and low steering rake. Out of the factory it already has a rake of 25 degrees, which is relatively extreme (sportsbikes generally have 25 degrees, but have a longer wheelbase which improves stability somewhat). I have read some people already getting wobbles with the stock setup.
Rising the rear would only make this angle smaller, so I think if you do that you'd better also get a steering damper for highway speeds. Either that, or you have to lift up the front as well to retain the same caster angle.
I used to live in CHI. Them roads bring back memories
Crazy guy , brilliant love your vids because you go against the grain , good patter and kick the arse of the bikes keep it up choppy
you can adjust the "wobbly throttle"' check further up the throttle cable. I have the xsr900 and had the same issue, same engine. Yamaha did good with that 3-cyl. Every time I roll on the throttle I still get that feeling - I get giddy.
+FEVO-10 ok will take a look next time I'm in there 👍
The throttle is electrical, so I don't think you can adjust a throttle cable when there's no throttle cable.
Lamb Chop Rides, Fevo-10 is correct. The throttle free play is adjustable, as it is on most modern sport bikes.
kalel33 The ride-by-wire throttle (cable) controls an electrical/electronic servo which adjusts the throttle bodies. That is different from the mechanical adjustability of the throttle free play.
Yeah, I thought you were of a larger statue. I'm gonna have to check it out. I'm 6'2" pushing 290. Thx for the response. I can't wait to test ride this bike!
I just paid off my 2017, and I’m at the point where I’d normally be looking for new bike... but I just can’t.
It’s like a bad romance. We’re gonna kill each other.
😂
Hey mate nice review, I did a vote video on which looks better a month ago on the new 09 and the 10 and the 9 came out on top :D
Yes it a bit more mainstream and less mental looking, Im not surprised by that :-)
That bike looks quite tame, but when I tried it, I having a hard time to front tire om the ground, thats what keeping me from considering it for my next bike.
+Dji Balz yeah it did pop up a few times, it's a quick bike and great value!
The quick shifter on my 2017 MT09 works a treat at all revs.
Yeah could have been this bike perhaps..
Actually it will wheelie in TC1 quite well
That TCS must be killing it. My 2015 non ABS comes up on the power in first 3 gears. 😳. (Allegedly officer).
+Psycho Paul yeah maybe it's now euro 4 strangled
.. I'm sure power commander and an exhaust and filter would transform it. I couldn't even clutch it up in third!
Just an fyi the manual says quick shifter only works above 6k rpm 😘
Actually my manual says it works with "engine speed of 2300 rpm or higher, and only when accelerating"
'Accomplished back lane scratcher' - Haha.
An ideal bike if you've got worms.
haha :-)
Very realistic and down to earth usable comments. I wish you and all reviewer’s would give your weight and inseam.. Thanks.
Wow......🚲
The thing I liked about older models like 2014-2015s were that the front wheel would come up as soon as you roll on the throttle which isn’t the case with these newer models I guess due to traction control and wheelie control.Many people would prefer it this way but I personally like a bike that’s wild and loves to wheelie and back flip on me as soon as I roll the throttle..
Just turn it off or down? TC1 will still instantly wheelie in 1st lol
Yes sir - my 3rd season on my 2015 FZ09 not MT09. all meat and potatoes.
No ABS traction control etc. Have to get used to snappy throttle yes but the 14 - 15 models also have the quickest 0 - 60. Less than 3 seconds mate. Some people dont believe that but I'm telling you . Look it up. I never really wheelie on my older motorcycle but now I've done HUNDREDS of 1st and 2nd gear wheelies on this Just little ones. It takes some talent to roll on and on but it will hold up the tire gear after gear if your brave and talented. And can afford one to practice and drop. I've ridden from Ohio to Massachusetts - to PA - W.VA- Blue ridge parkway etc. Padded seat velcro additionl on and I ride fine all damn day. Never gonna sell. Iconic bike. I'm 52 this year and I tell you speed is exhilarating but torque is more fun and keeps me young!
Even though this is probably better all round, I'd still go for the Brutale 800
I had one. I won't be making that mistake again. MVs look great and seem like a nice idea on paper, but the reliability is appalling.
I'm so mad you guys get that color option for the FZ-09
LCR I think the Moto matches your personality, a fun and entertaining review. Well done. sub!
I would absolutely love a review of the tracer from you!!
Sweet review for a sweet bike. I love these things. & because I know you've got Super bike & Supermoto experience, your opinion only makes me love them all the more. Definitely a main contender for a future step up.
+Bimble thanks Bimble, it's a great do it all bike for the money and I think with an exhaust and power commander would transform the throttle response and unlock a fair amount of power and torque! Defo a contender for the best affordable bike out there!
I miss it so much. Mine got stolen :(
Damn if someone stole my 2015 I'd go postal. Steeling a man's bike. Not cool
you really sound like yoda from the clone wars series :)! I love it
I have no trouble driving a rear wheel with traction control 1. You just need to be a bit softer on the gas :). I like your videos keep it up!. Greetings for Sweden :)
Yeah the bike will loft the front wheel on Mode 1. Just try not to lose traction on the back wheel.
Al i can say is wow the prices gone up crazy in the last years! now a mt07 is 7.5 grand can you believe it...
That "waggly" throttle is easy to fix. Those cables from the grip to the servo sensor? Yeah just turn a couple 10mm nuts and take the slack right out.
Very tempting at that price for a 2nd bike nice honest review chops 👍🏻
+Enduro Gav yes absolutely for the money it's very impressive! Also a great all rounder which don't look half bad. Need to try the updated street triple next to compare.. want to try the rs if I can 😉
Would love to see you review the New R6 when its out. Nice editing as always .
+matt46vale well freestyle are getting an r1 demo which I can try.. not sure about the r6 that would also be amazing! Will ask them 👍
I love those Yamahas . Bang for buck .
I wouldn't call £8542 bang for buck as it's more expensive than the triumph street triple S / KTM Duke 790 which are better bikes
@@pgtips9236 actually its price tag is less than both bikes you mention
The triumph street triple s is £8300 so cheaper & at the time of writing the KTM was cheaper aswell but the price as increased since lol
pgtips the KTM ,& Yamaha are 15 miles away the street is 70 miles away . Here the Yamaha is cheaper for me . Idkif its European trade deals orwhat
I dont have money for ducati hyper and i want a tall bike should i buy this i m very carefull and capable but never before riden anythig except bycicle that i can drive big speed without hands in very sharp corrners :) and yes im 189
Don't like the rear wheel guard, and those yellow wheel turn me off. The front end looks unfinished. Apart from that I enjoyed your review and watched until the end.
You can get a screen, that helps a bit with the front, I'm still unsure about the number plate mount/guard but it cleans up the tail. I am a big fan of the MT range. I'm hoping to do some lessons on the MT-07 soon, knowing my luck I'll get the FJ6, still be fun though.
+Moto Rinzler cheers Moto! Yeah rear plate setup would have to go... I agree
Loved the yoda choke😂😂 dreambike for me🔥👌
I once rode a mt-5, but I believe this is a bit different. Great video btw :)
wow thats pricy! 8k pounds is about $13300 canadian dollers, i bought mine (our version the FZ09) all tax in, for $9000can or about $5400 pounds
Great review LC,
In 6f1 and 16 stone, how would I fit on this fit? Really considering one
I can't say for the '17 but on the '16 model you can tighten up that throttle play.
Yeah I think your right someone else pointed that out.. Will check that on my 701 also as drives me crazy :-)
bro that go pro mount shakes more than fukushima
+theniceguy27 yeah shite isn't it 😣 won't be using that again!
lol yea, really good review btw, obviously your very honest about the ride. non fan boy which is refreshing!
+theniceguy27 thanks dude, yeah always tell it how I see it. Every bike has good and bad points just pointing them out 😀
The headlight is growing on me but I HATE where they put the blinkers now
nero91 the indicators look much smart now that just bolted to the side of the headlight
Nice one mate. £7800 is bloody good value for a back lane scratcher! 👌
+Sixth Gear Motorcycles thanks matey, yeah bloody cheap in this day and age. I paid more than that for a sandwich once at m&s!
Just subbed you. Really nicely edited videos. Top work.
+Potnoodle Vs The World. Thanks very much 👍
I like how u stopped in the middle of the road to do a walk around......😃😃😃
+Paul Watson haha best place to do it keeps you on your toes 😂😂
Wow you literally sounded like Yoda 1:30 XD
+The Muscle Biker haha, will show off my Vader impression next time! "Impressive, most impressive"
It's weird. I rode this at the Yam test day at Boxhill last year and hated it. That seat was unbearable for me after 40mins, it crushed my plums so much! I found the MT10 and absolute joy to ride however, comfy, smooth and mental when you wanted it. Great vid as always sir!
back lane scratcher! liked that. nice looking bike
+ft rider haha 😉
Hi Chops have you considered doing a review on the 2021 on MT-09. Seems a popular bike at the moment.
Unfortunately Yamaha don't have enough demo bikes to lend them out Unfortunately
I know a lot of dealers are waiting for stock
Really nice bike, just the instrument cluster being off center and a bit small does not do it for me
+Christiaan Joubert yeah I guess that is a little odd but in the flesh doesn't really stand out.
Hi Lamb Chop - what helmet are you wearing fella?
The standard mt 09 is now near 9k in my local dealership, seems a bit steep
@@yammydodger1988 the sp is near 10k
Be happy you dont live in Denmark. It is 20.000$ here
These were £7300 in 2015 with a free Akrapovic worth £1000 & now they're £8542 in my local dealer so it isn't a cheap bike anymore just like the MT 10 was less than 10k & now 12k otr
@@pgtips9236 the prices of bikes are getting ridiculous, you can see why so many people are going down the used bike route
mark hill yeah, when you can get a GSXR-1000 k5 for less than 5 grand, why would anyone buy a brand new, less powerful motorcycle
Sweet bike , what helmet are you wearing ? Any video on your gear and equipment ? Thanks fantastic.
Great bike, but would you choose the Mt over the gsx-s1000? I'm liking the gsx more, will test ride both bikes to confirm. Love your reviews man!
Thanks matey, I have the GSXS 750 here for review so will let you know as very similar of course
funniest and most useful review I've ever watched. Thank you. I also burp freely because it is healthy. Great vid.
What are you on about with the quickshifter. They're only to be used under stress . The lower the speed; the worse ...
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about, I totally agree with you. A quickshifter is not designed to turn your bike into an automatic, it's meant for when you are gunning it and your engine is in it's peak powerband in which you are supposed to shift, it then let's you slide in your gear without realeasing the throttle. = quick shift.
Not slow shift
Freestyle, Chichester. That is where my MT 09 came from. I fitted a Black Widow exhaust, a tail tidy and a small screen.
What 1000cc naked would you recommand for a lad your size?(18 stones, 6"5')
Lovely review btw
About 20lbs heavier than you, I ride an MT-09 myself. Hauls without issues. Suspension is definitely a bit soft though.
I have the first year 2014 with the original programming. Yes it's a brute! The throttle is something to get used to, but when you do it is brilliant! The 2017 seems docile, slow to respond to throttle input, hard to wheelie. Mine is hard to keep the front down!
The 2017 front end looks horrible! Traction control? I bought mine because it's a dumb bike. No ABS, No traction control, just pure bike! I have made needed suspension upgrades that make the bike a cornering beast by replacing the fork internals with a brilliant kit from Stoltec and the rear shock from a Suzuki Hyabusa that's nearly a direct fit. It's not a long distance bike, it's stiff, the seat is a sheet of plywood, a butt buster! As a canyon carver, track day bike and drag racer it's damned good at all of them now! Predictable. I do want to add the quick shifter that would better my ET's and lap times to finish it as about the best all around bike with probably the best tripe motor I know of.
+Bill Ness sounds like I need to try an earlier version too!
Bill Ness What year Busa shock do you have in it?
2008 and earlier GSXR and Hyabusa are nearly a direct fit. The swing arm bushing and bolt are a different size, but by using the Yamaha bolt and bushing in the Suzuki shock fixes that. The Suzuki spring is too stiff, I reused the stock Yamaha spring. To fit the external reservoir, you'll need to trim out the plastic pan under the seat and move the harnesses aside.
Thanks for the reply! I'm interested in upgrading suspension but I'm not loaded. Is your front suspension stock?
I have a Stoltec Moto valve and shim stack kit, along with stiffer springs that evens out rebound and compression quite nicely! I have a lot more confidence in its handling now and can canyon carve it well!
I like your helmet, wich one is it? Keep op the good work!
Its an Icon Variant Loui
Okay, thank you!:-h
Nice review Mr Chops. Btw what lid are you wearing there ?
+ChuckNinja Kawasaki thanks matey, helmet is Icon Varient 👍
Watched the videos of both bikes, but would you go with a 2020 MT09 or a brand new very discounted hold over 2017 gsx-s1000 for same price?
corbin luster I’ll answer. Been riding for a few years. Had a liter as my first bike, it depends on your patience level if you’re new. If you’re not then it depends on power. 09 will outperform low end but gsxr will always win high end. If you want to go 180. Go for gsxr if you like 0-60 go 09
Excellent advice from Spencer. I'll only add, run the insurance quotes for both. You may find a significant difference in premium.
@@wrxguyusa very true didnt think of insurance difference. gonna have to factor that in.
@@allsportfreak23 i bought new 2020 yamaha mt09 SP and its fucking awsome bike also over 150 km/h have very good aerodinamic for naked bike...im surprised how smooth is gear box and how good bike is going into corner's
did you talk about the updated suspension on the bike, few updates done into the 2018 bike generally same as new 2017 but you should be able to change TC as you ride.
please do review the z900 and XSR900
Think you had fun there!!....Agree about the looks bud, nicer than its bigger brother...have to change the bars though, don't get this trend for bolt upright riding position on the latest crop of nakeds, it's wank..lose all feeling for the front end, get twatted more by the wind and it's uncomfortable on the ass!...needs lots more lean - ride with the core and stop putting all the weight through the wrists...
I'd like to meet you on Hampshire roads one day, to try and keep up. You ride quickly.
Will look out for you Olly 😎
Trust me you and wheelie with traction control on
Good stuff👍🏻 next 2017 bike review aprilia dorsoduro 900 maybe?😋
+Tjeerd Renkema will see what I can do but ducati are not keen to lend bikes to vloggers 😣
Lamb Chop Rides Haha maybe Aprilia will lend you a APRILIA Dorsoduro 900😜
+Tjeerd Renkema that would be nice!! 🤘🤘👍👍
What do you choose, the 701 SM/690SMCR or this MT09?
Triumph T509 Speed Triple, because I luuuurve it! 😋
How does this compare to the new Street Triple?
I'll have a cup of tea and a slice of cake aunt Sally 😜
sadly mt-09 is not a budget bike for me in denmark. 8000 pound is 80.000 danish kroner but with tax +other crap it costs 130.000 in denmark. that is 13.000 pounds :(
yeah but great bacon though
Same in Norway, Mine gets delivered in May.. Until then I have some time to work overtime at work :D
Wow really? It's 91.900 in Sweden. You should head over to Malmö and pick one up.
Johan Kihlander don't work. Danish state will demand I pay tax and then price will be same.
So it's basically the taxes that hikes up the price difference that much? That sucks. I actually thought Denmark would be a lot better about bikes than Sweden. We seem to hate everything that isn't taking the bus or walking. But yeah, looking at the danish Yamaha prices right now and I'm shocked. The MT-07 is OK priced though.
sub 8k? in switzerland it costs almost 12-13 thousand
lucada32 same here in Portugal!
+ NT
8000lb of 1p coins ~ 12000€
Useless information? Maybe. But at least it's true...
Yes but in Switzerland you earn like 1000x more money
Hey men, mt 09 vs ktm 690 smc or husqvarna 701 SM, all brand new. What would you chose and why?
Just wondering. Great videos by the way. Keep it up bro :)
+Sebastião well I can answer that one honestly as I did buy the 701 😀 liked it over the 690 as was a new design, preferred the looks better steering lock. Mt09 is great but wanted an SM, if it was an only bike the MT probably better choice..
690 is get round town and twisties but i literally just sold my ktm with the idea to buy a mt09 i was just sick of hanging on for dear life and having my handles vibrating so much.
and riding longer distance isnt fun on the ktm.
Your a bit bullish with the torque figure you gave LC, unless you meant NM at 88, i thought it had more torque than my FZ1 when you said foot pounds
I've looked at MT09 dyno charts and typically they appear to give a max torque figure of around 64-65lb/ft (at around 8400rpm). Below 6000rpm there's less than 57lb/ft so I'm always surprised when it's called a wheelie monster as low-down torque isn't that high. Maybe the gearing helps???
Have you ridden a Street Triple? I assume the new ones are on your to test ride list this year ;)
+HamSpamJamLamb no next on the list sir. Want to try the rs as looks amazing!
Would you say this tops the street triple R / Rx?
TremourSphere close one! But the street triple RX is more money. you get what you pay for. if u got the money go with your gut feeling.
I've had both and MT is definitely more exciting to ride ... I soon got used to the RX.... I can't get used to the MT...😫😫😫😫😫😫
Good comprehensive review. I am looking at this and the 690Duke. Would you rather have this over your 690 if you could only have one bike?
I have the 2017 690 Duke here at the moment so full review coming soon!!
good review cheers
Good review. I have to say it's like a Z1000 wannabe.....but that's probably a bit harsh... I should probably say I can't understand why companies are producing bikes that are literally 100cc apart..!
+Comfy Sofa yes true but it's 100 cc and missing a cylinder 😀 it's a long way off in powet compared to the mt-10 completely different animal, don't let the capacity fool you into thinking it must be similar.. now the mt07 that could be a different story.. may have to try one and find out
But thats the thing isnt it.....if its a long way off then why bother...? you may as well go for the mt07. None of them are for me (the mt range) its definately subjective but for me they look awful, but then, the next person may think theyre the best looking bikes ever. But, its a good thing otherwise there'd be no variety!
Im hoping to get to Loomies a couple of times this year (live is Bristol) so if i do ill send you a tweet...you may be free for a meet up... :)
One thing i must say which was refreshing to see from your review was that pretty well all of the mainstream reviewers, fast bikes, performance bikes etc etc didnt mention the shitty qs and some of the other stuff you were critical of, which is how a review should be...ive found that these days from a mainstream reviewers angle everything is great - theres never really a bad review as they wouldnt get asked to fly half way round the world on these things.....
The thing i always find funny is the year after when the current one is old news then theres always things wrong with it...i always remember watching a panigale review with Al Fagan and he talked about the previous years model as being a "scaffold bar with wheels"...
+Comfy Sofa yes defo up for a meet up if your down buddy sounds good. Sunday mornings or weds evenings on bike night at loomies are always good for me 👍 it's very true what you say about reviews, I will tell it how I see it, what's the point otherwise.. and your absolutely right about last year's models all of a sudden being rubbish when they were the best thing since sliced bread 6 months ago! 😀
Heh - yeah....not just me that sees that then....
Loomies: yep - sunday morning is the time i/we would go. For the last couple of years some of us on the af1 forum have had an RSV4 meetup....(just about to get this years meetup thread going). Ironically my work takes me to Worthing once a month and i travel along the A27 (and past Freestyle Yamaha) and think one day i might see him!! so if some bloke in a middle management company car tries to pull you over theyre not going to lamp you! :)
It seems a bit gutless compared to the balls out 2013 one I had, have you ridden an earlier one (non abs)
+crotchrocket yeah few people said that.. maybe euro 4 strangled and was only just run in. Could have more to come maybe...
You sound like a young Julian Ryder
Is lane filtering easier on the Mt 09 or Mt 10? Thanks.
MT10 is slightly wider but I've had no issues with either bike
I know all those roads you are riding on.
Hey CHOPS....
Big Ed, from the States... really interested in this bike,but I might be to big for it...was wondering about your height and weight....
and what your recommended limits are ...for accommodating this bike?
Hey brother! I'm from America too. MERCA!!!!!! LOL. I have the fj 09 and I'm 6 foot 4 inches 270 lbs. Fits me fantastic. I look good on it too. Now the fz 09 looks a little small on me. Not terrible but I don't like looking to big for my bike. As far as feel, it feels fine for my size. But again it looks a little small for me. Check out the fj 09 same engine, bigger bike and I think it's better looking.
python man HA! I just commented back to ya thinking it was "Chops"..I'd really like to have the Versys 1000 but I think it's just out of my reach...
in TC mode 2, Does the front wheel lift every time you open the throttle to half or full open?
Quality !
How about that for a first bike mr LC ?
+Rad “BigBadRad” hmm could be a little to much for a first bike but I guess with the electronics... but in the UK you can't as it's not A2 legal not sure elsewhere.. the mt07 may be a better first big bike option
Lamb Chop Rides thx
How tractable is this bike. Does it pull cleanly from low revs in a high gear?
20mph in 5th gear... open up and pull smoothly and well.
Test ride one..
That's what I wanted to hear, OT. Smooth gear change?
1990 good (:
Ive had much more powerful bikes, i had a Tuono before this, but never had an engine so good for road riding!
I think you've convinced me, Oliver. Thanks for getting back to me.
Which naked bike is best for having fun and carry gf lol on back from Aprilia , BMW , Yamaha , ktm , Suzie? I'm looking at going down more up right bike I got gsxr600 but for health reasons I might be more happy on up right bike instead of be hunched over the bars . Keep up great vids
+Tattofear Fear I think if you need to take passengers regularly than perhaps the GSX-S 750 or 1000 would be a good choice. Super duke or tuono are front wheel light anyway without extra weight over the rear! S1000r might be good for passengers perhaps but have a feeling rear seat is quiet small..
That fast reply only just done it lol cool thanks I'll have look about for test ride c what I think 👍 .so mt09 not as good as some of your other naked bikes then ?
+Tattofear Fear no its good and a decent price too! But if you want something a bit quicker.. defo worth test riding everything anyway though 😀
Hahaha hell yeah we got some sun at last might have go test ride some bikes on weekendI have say I do like look of s1000r but it's bit of my price range as most of bikes out there lol I'm still having fun on my gsxr but be bit more easier on upright I think lol really u need test ride bike for more then couple hours wish I could have one for weekend lol
You do good work man, you should have way more subs.... however, do these guys at the shop see you driving this bike like a donkey? Lol
+Curtis Lenox haha cheers buddy, shh don't tell them!
Hi Chops, what do you reckon about the Z900 for £8249 - if you get a chance to ride one I'd be interested in your opinion cheers
+Jon Steed yeah need to try one, problem is quack dealer is miles away and not very review friendly 😣
Isn’t the quick shifter an add-on?
No, it's now standard on all 2017 onwards.
@The Triple Rider Add on in the US, standard in the UK.
Try the SP model. Would like to know what you think of it.
I think it's a pointless upgrade unless you take it to a track, at least here where I live with the current road quality and traffic. I have tried both the new MT-09 and the SP. Coming from a 2014 MT-09 I didn't feel much difference on the road between the 2018 MT-09 and SP except they both are a lot better then the older model that I ride. I wouldn't personally get the SP model, instead I would modify a regular MT-09 with the money that you save; new exhaust, a tune, heated grips, cosmetic upgrades etc.
I disagree with Ta3kno solely on the basis of it really just depends on your weight and size- for me the suspension on the standard is absolulte shite- and I'd highly reccomend upgrading to the SP for an extra grand, as it will cost atleast that for some decent suspension. IMO (and the opinion of many professionals) Suspension and setup should be the second most important upgrade- the first being tyres.
How would you compare this to the MT-10? I'm trying to decide between the new MT-09SP and the MT-10 but I ride mostly city and mountain roads. I live in a small island so 90% speeds below 150 km/h
Thats a tough one.. For me it would be the MT10 but then Im a power freak, I enjoyed the MT10 more but the MT09 probably handled better and Im sure with the improved suspension it would be even better! Power wise the MT10 is way more powerful. I would suggest a test ride of both
Im Torn also, I want the MT 10 but in the show room nxt to the 09 the 09 looks so much better to me, Im trying to get over the looks but its hard :(
I have added a turbo kit to my 09. It works great with the triple engine and the bike is lighter and more agile. It’s a lot of fun.
Bloody good review, bloke. Or is that " mate"
do you reckon you'll have a ride on the tracer?
+SuperPramFace187 yes think Freestyle have a demo so possible 👍
Surely it doesn't have 80 ft/lb of torque. It's only an 850.
1990 87,5nm @ 8500rpm , 115hp @ 10K rpm.
Which is 64.5 ft/lb. That's more like it. And that's a crank figure.
1990 i think its plenty :)
So do I. I was simply pointing out it doesn't put out 80 ft/lb.
Great bike.